So does anyone know why the toy for "Night at the Museum II" features
an ape astronaut in a capsule? Does the movie itself have some POTA
tie-in?

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:02 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Strange toy on eBay

> Totally not POTA but if you take a close look it's almost Zira
> like. I have
> one that my 4-year old gave me because I said it looked like Zira.
>
> Here are some closeups:
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=DSC00145.jpg
>
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=DSC00144.jpg
>
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=DSC00143.jpg
>
> Jess.
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Neil Foster
> <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Mike.
> >
> > *Neil T. Foster*
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
> *On Behalf
> > Of *mlccougar@...
> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:49 PM
> > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Strange toy on eBay
> >
> > **** That's a McDonalds toy tie-in for the film "Night At The
> Museum> II"... ****
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/22/09 11:35:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > ntfoster@... writes:
> >
> >
> > Anyone have any idea what this is all about? It's not POTA as
> the seller
> > claims is it?
> >
> >
> >
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No it has nothing to do with pota's.
The monkey in night at the museum goes to another museum and goes in a space capsual in the final scenes where they are fighting to save the golden tablet from the enemy?
Mark :)
- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

>
> So does anyone know why the toy for "Night at the Museum II" features
> an ape astronaut in a capsule? Does the movie itself have some POTA
> tie-in?
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
> Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:02 am
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Strange toy on eBay
>
> > Totally not POTA but if you take a close look it's almost Zira
> > like. I have
> > one that my 4-year old gave me because I said it looked like Zira.
> >
> > Here are some closeups:
> > http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
> action=view¤t=DSC00145.jpg
> >
> > http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
> action=view¤t=DSC00144.jpg
> >
> > http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
> action=view¤t=DSC00143.jpg
> >
> > Jess.
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Neil Foster
> > <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Mike.
> > >
> > > *Neil T. Foster*
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
> > *On Behalf
> > > Of *mlccougar@...
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:49 PM
> > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Strange toy on eBay
> > >
> > > **** That's a McDonalds toy tie-in for the film "Night At The
> > Museum> II"... ****
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 7/22/09 11:35:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > > ntfoster@... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone have any idea what this is all about? It's not POTA as
> > the seller
> > > claims is it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular
> > laptops!
> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?
> redir=http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/12309%2D81939%
> 2D1629%2D7>>
> > >
> > >
> >
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] PHOTOS of SAN DIEGO COMC-CON

 

Hey all

If you go to the CONSPIRAVCY website and click on the far right glyph “BLOG”, it takes you to a blog with photos of the booth.

http://theconspirac yapes.blogspot. com/

Enjoy!

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 7:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] SAN DIEGO COMC-CON

 

COOL Jeff thanks man and especially thanks for cross posting so neither group misses out!

Can you take some mobile phone camera snaps of the other artwork?!?!?  SHH here comes Drew!  J

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] What's NOT to get excited about?

 

What worries me is that I offered to send a copy of Rich’s book to Scott Frank and I was politely asked not to.

That REALLY bothers me because it makes me wonder how much research he is putting into the original franchise and how much respect he intends to give to it.

It also means that he’s not looking to the hardcore fans who have been discussing and researching and fighting (in the name of the bomb!) over points for years.

If it does not relate to POTA – then call it Lancelot Link.

But anyway, in light of my recent conversations with stakeholders, it is seeming most likely that this project is on hold.

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:50 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.

-- Rory

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I can see why he would not want the book, if anything is in the film that ties with the book then he opens himself up to plagiarism , and the lawsuits to follow.
Best to keep it is own original idea dont you think????
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> What worries me is that I offered to send a copy of Rich's book to Scott
> Frank and I was politely asked not to.
>
>
>
> That REALLY bothers me because it makes me wonder how much research he is
> putting into the original franchise and how much respect he intends to give
> to it.
>
>
>
> It also means that he's not looking to the hardcore fans who have been
> discussing and researching and fighting (in the name of the bomb!) over
> points for years.
>
>
>
> If it does not relate to POTA - then call it Lancelot Link.
>
>
>
> But anyway, in light of my recent conversations with stakeholders, it is
> seeming most likely that this project is on hold.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Haristas@...
> Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:50 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?
>
>
>
> Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.
>
> -- Rory
>

Thats differant here in the U.K we use it has a seasoning for meat dishes???????
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> In Australia we have a name for a sage: DICKHEAD! :-)
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> jessica rotich
> Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 7:47 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?
>
>
>
>
>
> Spoken like a true sage, Rory.
>
> Jessica.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM, <Haristas@aol. <mailto:Haristas@...>
> com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Answer: In development hell, of course, and we all know how that
> worked out the last time.
>
> Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shanter2002 <john@johnroche6. <mailto:john%40johnroche6.wanadoo.co.uk>
> wanadoo.co.uk>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 5:10 am
> Subject: [pota] New Movie Where Art Thou?
>
>
>
> Is there ANY word on the previously mooted new Apes movie? It's all
> gone deathly silent. John, Scrolls.
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] Re: Had Zaius seen the statue of liberty?

 

Of all the posts to disallow, what’s the problem with this one?

It’s a legitimate question.

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 8:52 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] Re: Had Zaius seen the statue of liberty?

 

So where did you get your definition of canon and what is it James?

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 7:01 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [pota] Re: Had Zaius seen the statue of liberty?

 

Canon just gives a baseline or foundation for others to build upon. When there is an interesting topic for discussion about the films, I find it less enjoyable when it is shut down before anyone else has a chance to comment by citing an old comic story as if that should be the last word on the subject.

I'm sure that the people who created the Malibu comics never considered themselves constrained by what Marvel had done. Nor was MR constrained by anything Malibu or Marvel had done before them. I would also bet that if you asked Ty Templeton or Joe O'Brien, they would be the first to admit that what they did in Revolution is not canon and no one else, like Blam! Ventures, should have to alter their interpretation and creative process to conform to what they did in Revolution.

One of the problems with a decades old franchise that has had multiple licensees over the years is that there is too many contradictions and conflicts. Recognizing canon just gives everyone an agreed upon starting point and we can can go from there. Marvel's Quest for the POTA and MR's Revolution present two conflicting versions of the events between Conquest and Battle . Rather than have one faction declare that because Quest came first Revolution should be ignored and another faction taking the opposite, recognizing that neither are canon leave room for both interpretations and any future interpretations that might make a great story (or interesting discussion) for fans to enjoy.  By stating that since someone already addressed a particular topic or issue so that's the final word on it and any future exploration of it is invalid just stifles creativity.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, the whole canon concept has made fandom a lot less enjoyable than it used to be. Years ago, we enjoyed stories, or we didn't. Now, all anyone can talk about anymore is whether or not a particular story is canon. Personally, I couldn't care less if any of it is canon or non-canon, since it's all fiction and didn't happen. If I like it, then it's good. If not, then I don't bother re-reading or re-watching it. This is particularly true for Planet of the Apes, which has no overseer deeming anything canon or non-canon--and I'm very grateful for that, as that sort of thing has soured so many other franchises for me.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "James" JamesA1102@ wrote:
> > While an interesting story, it is not canon.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > According to "The Sins of the Father," his father took him to see it
> > when he was young, to teach him the danger man represents.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "farkle.freddy" farkle.freddy@ wrote:
> > > > He knew Taylor would find his destiny in the forbidden zone. Given
> > POTA1, do y'all think had Zaius seen the statue? Does anything in
> > Beneath change your thought on that?
> > > > FF
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:25 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

I’ve been in touch with Missy Davy, who is Scott Frank’s Personal Assistant.

Her attitude was originally quite friendly, and she’s still friendly but not at all informative.

She was the person who put me straight about Scott being the writer, not the director (and all the articles were dubbing him as director so that tells you haw accurate the press is).

I sent a string of interview questions for “The Forbidden Zine” and she referred me to a fellow at FOX.

The fellow at FOX emailed me back and said “no progress, nothing to report, could you please send your phone number so I can update you”….so I did.

Rory – how can it be in development hell?  It’s only at the writing stage – there’s no actors chosen, no director…..nothing (and this WAS confirmed by Missy ages ago).

It’s waiting to be scripted – end of story.

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:50 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

Answer: In development hell, of course, and we all know how that
worked out the last time.

Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: shanter2002 <john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 5:10 am
Subject: [pota] New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

Is there ANY word on the previously mooted new Apes movie? It's all
gone deathly silent. John, Scrolls.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Strange toy on eBay

 

Totally not POTA but if you take a close look it's almost Zira like.  I have one that my 4-year old gave me because I said it looked like Zira. 

 

Here are some closeups:

http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/? action=view&current=DSC00145. jpg

 

http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/? action=view&current=DSC00144. jpg

 

http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/? action=view&current=DSC00143. jpg

Jess.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

 

Thanks Mike.

 

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Strange toy on eBay

*** That's a McDonalds toy tie-in for the film "Night At The Museum II"... ***

 

 

In a message dated 7/22/09 11:35:37 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

 

Anyone have any idea what this is all about? It's not POTA as the seller claims is it?

 

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I'll give that sentiment a third thumbs up.

I recall that when I first heard of the word canon in terms of what is
considered 'real' vs 'not real' for a fictional piece, I just shook my
head and passed it off as yet another hollywood idea gone bonkers. If a
piece is fiction it's senseless to state that some parts of a story have
more credence than others. You can like some elements more than others,
but to put one part a greater value with respect to reality, when
nothing is real at all... that's just nuts.

Neil's sentiment that he did not care whether it was even called "Planet
of the Apes" or not, did give me something to think about. If it turns
out good then having the POTA moniker will (hopefully) get some people
to see the original. But if it sucks (shades of 2001), then it would
just tarnish the franchise further. I was originally going to oppose
Neil's take, but he may have a point.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009 7:39 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] Re: Had Zaius seen the statue of liberty?

> Rich, if I could write as eloquently as you can I would have written
> exactly what you have here! You have summed up perfectly my way of
> thinking on this subject.
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> > In my opinion, the whole canon concept has made fandom a lot less
> enjoyable than it used to be. Years ago, we enjoyed stories, or we
> didn't. Now, all anyone can talk about anymore is whether or not a
> particular story is canon. Personally, I couldn't care less if any
> of it
> is canon or non-canon, since it's all fiction and didn't happen. If I
> like it, then it's good. If not, then I don't bother re-reading or
> re-watching it.
>

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*** The original PLANET is and always will be an "intelligent sci-fi" film... No sequels or new franchise can diminish that... ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 7/24/09 5:42:21 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:

I'm excited because the film series I love is flawed by ridiculous plot holes by sloppy makers – it's the OPPOSITE to INTELLIGENT sci-fi.

 

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In a message dated 7/24/09 5:47:16 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:

It also means that he's not looking to the hardcore fans who have been discussing and researching and fighting (in the name of the bomb!) over points for years.

 *** I told you that months ago... This film is nothing to do with POTA so it doesn't matter if he is looking to hardcore fans or not... This CAESAR film, should it ever get a "go" is a completely different entity and it should be treated as such... Why look to fans of one franchise when you're trying to create a new one? ***

 

 

But anyway, in light of my recent conversations with stakeholders, it is seeming most likely that this project is on hold.

*** Again, I said this a long time ago... I seriously doubt if this film will even be made at all... ***

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*** He'd be giving it none, at least not as far as any aspects of it being in the film... His film was never going to be APES related anyway so why would it matter... It'd make about as much sense as the writer of a STAR TREK film researching and respecting SW. ***

 

 

In a message dated 7/24/09 5:47:16 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:

That REALLY bothers me because it makes me wonder how much research he is putting into the original franchise and how much respect he intends to give to it.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:25 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

I’ve been in touch with Missy Davy, who is Scott Frank’s Personal Assistant.

Her attitude was originally quite friendly, and she’s still friendly but not at all informative.

She was the person who put me straight about Scott being the writer, not the director (and all the articles were dubbing him as director so that tells you haw accurate the press is).

I sent a string of interview questions for “The Forbidden Zine” and she referred me to a fellow at FOX.

The fellow at FOX emailed me back and said “no progress, nothing to report, could you please send your phone number so I can update you”….so I did.

Rory – how can it be in development hell?  It’s only at the writing stage – there’s no actors chosen, no director…..nothing (and this WAS confirmed by Missy ages ago).

It’s waiting to be scripted – end of story.

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:50 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

Answer: In development hell, of course, and we all know how that
worked out the last time.

Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: shanter2002 <john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 5:10 am
Subject: [pota] New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

Is there ANY word on the previously mooted new Apes movie? It's all
gone deathly silent. John, Scrolls.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:46 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] What's NOT to get excited about?

 

What worries me is that I offered to send a copy of Rich’s book to Scott Frank and I was politely asked not to.

That REALLY bothers me because it makes me wonder how much research he is putting into the original franchise and how much respect he intends to give to it.

It also means that he’s not looking to the hardcore fans who have been discussing and researching and fighting (in the name of the bomb!) over points for years.

If it does not relate to POTA – then call it Lancelot Link.

But anyway, in light of my recent conversations with stakeholders, it is seeming most likely that this project is on hold.

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:50 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Neil Foster

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:29 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] What's NOT to get excited about?

 

I'm not sure what to think about all of this really. I would love to see something that complements and ties in with what has already been with the same clothes and makeup etc. but then I think, do I really want more of the same again and again? I really don't think I do.

I don't see any problem having a completely new take on it and don't care if they call it 'Planet of the Apes' either to tell the truth.

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] What's NOT to get excited about?

 

What worries me is that I offered to send a copy of Rich’s book to Scott Frank and I was politely asked not to.

That REALLY bothers me because it makes me wonder how much research he is putting into the original franchise and how much respect he intends to give to it.

It also means that he’s not looking to the hardcore fans who have been discussing and researching and fighting (in the name of the bomb!) over points for years.

If it does not relate to POTA – then call it Lancelot Link.

But anyway, in light of my recent conversations with stakeholders, it is seeming most likely that this project is on hold.

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:50 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?

 

Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.

-- Rory

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I know in Aussie they like to barbi a lot ,that's a lot of meat eaten, therefor if you like to season with dickheads there must be a lot of them in Australia also?????
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
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> In Australia we season our meat dishes with dickheads!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> haydon.mark
> Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 9:47 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dickhead Where Art Thou?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thats differant here in the U.K we use it has a seasoning for meat
> dishes???????
> Mark :)
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Michael &
> Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > In Australia we have a name for a sage: DICKHEAD! :-)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of
> > jessica rotich
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 7:47 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Spoken like a true sage, Rory.
> >
> > Jessica.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM, <Haristas@aol. <mailto:Haristas@>
> > com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Answer: In development hell, of course, and we all know how that
> > worked out the last time.
> >
> > Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shanter2002 <john@johnroche6.
> <mailto:john%40johnroche6.wanadoo.co.uk>
> > wanadoo.co.uk>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 5:10 am
> > Subject: [pota] New Movie Where Art Thou?
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there ANY word on the previously mooted new Apes movie? It's all
> > gone deathly silent. John, Scrolls.
> >
>

Fair point
MArk :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
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> Plagiarism? Of what?
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>
>
> Rich's book outlines the events of the various POTA universes (movies, TV,
> toons, comics, novels, scripts) in a sequential order.
>
>
>
> It concludes nothing that's not been in the films, TV show etc which are all
> essential background reading (or if they are not, then this is not a POTA
> movie and may as well be called "Lancelot Link" instead of CAESAR).
>
>
>
> What you say makes sense if Rich's book were a script but it almost seems
> Scott Frank wants to start from scratch with no knowledge of POTA and that's
> just silly.
>
>
>
> Even if he wants to change it he needs to research and understand it -
> embrace it - before doing so.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> haydon.mark
> Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 9:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: What's NOT to get excited about?
>
>
>
>
>
> I can see why he would not want the book, if anything is in the film that
> ties with the book then he opens himself up to plagiarism , and the lawsuits
> to follow.
> Best to keep it is own original idea dont you think????
> Mark :)
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Michael &
> Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > What worries me is that I offered to send a copy of Rich's book to Scott
> > Frank and I was politely asked not to.
> >
> >
> >
> > That REALLY bothers me because it makes me wonder how much research he is
> > putting into the original franchise and how much respect he intends to
> give
> > to it.
> >
> >
> >
> > It also means that he's not looking to the hardcore fans who have been
> > discussing and researching and fighting (in the name of the bomb!) over
> > points for years.
> >
> >
> >
> > If it does not relate to POTA - then call it Lancelot Link.
> >
> >
> >
> > But anyway, in light of my recent conversations with stakeholders, it is
> > seeming most likely that this project is on hold.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of
> > Haristas@
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:50 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Where Art Thou?
> >
> >
> >
> > Really, what is there to get excited about? It won't be the same.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Cc: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:13 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] What's NOT to get excited about?

 

So more Lancelot Link than POTA?  J

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 2:05 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] What's NOT to get excited about?

 And I think this is a new take, not connected to the originals anyway.

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Hey all

OK, I have pulled 50 sets of Landon's dog tags and the trading cards for you guys who havent ordered yet, These have been disappearing everyday from our table, and I doubt I will have any left for those at the con tomorrow. These DOG TAGS are selling on ebay for $18.00 each, so I urge each you to take advantage of our offer if you haven't yet!

We are offering you guys the chance to get the entire BLAM! COPOTA package:

1 Limited Replica Edition of Landon's Dog Tags

1 Limited Bio Trading Card Set featuring art by Matt Busch and teaser info about
the novel. The first 5 released cards are included here, as the rest aren't
going to be made available until later in the year. Eventually there will be 9
in total for this book (and we will offer you the other four later when we
produce them for future conventions)!

1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko

1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian

Both prints are limited to 500 each and are numbered! I am reserving low numbers
for the fan groups - again, first come first serve!

To order:

Paypal us at woldugger@..., thats woldugger at aol.com
Subject title: COPOTA SDCC FAN GROUP DEAL
payment type: goods

Take advantage of this as soon as possible, I dont think I can hold any stuff
back past Thursday and I want to satisfy the true fans as much as possible.

Neil or Michael - please make sure this circulates, thanks!

Drew

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, blamventurer < blamventurer@...> wrote:

Hey all

OK, I have pulled 50 sets of Landon's dog tags and the trading cards for you guys who havent ordered yet, These have been disappearing everyday from our table, and I doubt I will have any left for those at the con tomorrow. These DOG TAGS are selling on ebay for $18.00 each, so I urge each you to take advantage of our offer if you haven't yet!

We are offering you guys the chance to get the entire BLAM! COPOTA package:

1 Limited Replica Edition of Landon's Dog Tags

1 Limited Bio Trading Card Set featuring art by Matt Busch and teaser info about
the novel. The first 5 released cards are included here, as the rest aren't
going to be made available until later in the year. Eventually there will be 9
in total for this book (and we will offer you the other four later when we
produce them for future conventions)!

1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko

1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian

Both prints are limited to 500 each and are numbered! I am reserving low numbers
for the fan groups - again, first come first serve!

To order:

Paypal us at woldugger@..., thats woldugger at aol.com
Subject title: COPOTA SDCC FAN GROUP DEAL
payment type: goods

Take advantage of this as soon as possible, I dont think I can hold any stuff
back past Thursday and I want to satisfy the true fans as much as possible.

Neil or Michael - please make sure this circulates, thanks!

Drew

How much are they asking for this set? Also, it looks as if the Paypal address is sorta cut off or out...  well at least on my computer.   -Chris   --- On Sat, 7/25/09, blamventurer <blamventurer@...> wrote: From: blamventurer <blamventurer@...> Subject: [PotaDG] ONLY 50 sets of LANDON'S DOG TAGS LEFT, ORDER ASAP! To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 1:15 PM   Hey all OK, I have pulled 50 sets of Landon's dog tags and the trading cards for you guys who havent ordered yet, These have been disappearing everyday from our table, and I doubt I will have any left for those at the con tomorrow. These DOG TAGS are selling on ebay for $18.00 each, so I urge each you to take advantage of our offer if you haven't yet! We are offering you guys the chance to get the entire BLAM! COPOTA package: 1 Limited Replica Edition of Landon's Dog Tags 1 Limited Bio Trading Card Set featuring art by Matt Busch and teaser info about the novel. The first 5 released cards are included here, as the rest aren't going to be made available until later in the year. Eventually there will be 9 in total for this book (and we will offer you the other four later when we produce them for future conventions) ! 1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko 1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian Both prints are limited to 500 each and are numbered! I am reserving low numbers for the fan groups - again, first come first serve! To order: Paypal us at woldugger@.. ., thats woldugger at aol.com Subject title: COPOTA SDCC FAN GROUP DEAL payment type: goods Take advantage of this as soon as possible, I dont think I can hold any stuff back past Thursday and I want to satisfy the true fans as much as possible. Neil or Michael - please make sure this circulates, thanks! Drew

I don't know if this counts as me-condensing-that-article, but my take on Time Travel can best be summed up by considering Time as a tree, with a single trunk representing a timeline that bifurcates -- or, "branches off" -- every time an Event happens which could happen in either of two ways. This is the "Many Worlds" theory, which basically states that if 2 different things COULD happen... then they BOTH happen, with the Universe splitting apart into two parallel Universes, one where Event A happened, and another where Event B happened. In such a scenario, Every other detail of the original Universe is copied in both universes -- so that, for example, in one universe (i.e. ours) Abraham Lincoln died as a result of the bullet John Wilkes Booth fired into the back of his head... and in some other parallel universe, Booth's gun jammed (or he was seen by somebody who then intervened and prevented him from shooting) and President Lincoln never was assassinated, thus altering that universe's Future.   In theory, somebody in our Universe's future could time-travel back to Ford's Theater on that fateful -- or not-so-fateful -- day, and intervene so as to prevent the assassination of Lincoln. The upshot of that would be that our universe -- the universe the Time Traveler came from -- would cease to exist: that timeline would be lopped off like a branch from a tree. The Time Traveler will have come from a Future which DID NOT HAPPEN, even though he -- from his personal perspective -- EXPERIENCED that once-future of a once-universe.   That Lincoln-saving dude will not have "changed" the Future... he will have OBLITERATED one Future, and an entire Universe in the bargain. Just like Spock in the new "STAR TREK" movie, HE will exist in an altered timeline, but the entire Universe he came from will no longer exist, except -- perhaps -- in some kind of transdimensional parallel universe (like their "Mirror" universe exists parallel to the "classic TREK" timeline.   In SF, these Time Travel stories are legion. And I don't think such things are truly possible. I see this type of story as a violation of Causality. For example, if a Time Traveler obliterates the Timeline from "Present" through to the "Future" from which he came, then he will have prevented himself from being born. Oh, a "parallel" version of him may be born in this new Future, but it won't BE him.   Think of it this way: A Time-Traveler could go back and time and prevent the Lincoln Assassination... but only if he lived in a Universe in which Lincoln never was assassinated to begin with. Thus, the Time-Traveler could only purposefully prevent the assassination if he knew that in his own historical records it had been recounted that a Time-Traveler from the Future had appeared out of Nowhere and saved the President from an assassin's bullet. Thus, the Hero wouldn't be "changing" anything... he will be FULFILLING a Causality Loop.   In my opinion, IF time-travel will ever be made possible, the most that will happen is that those Time-Travelers will, by their "interventions," do what Fate dictated HAD to happen. For example, if somebody were to discover a grave from A.D. 962 containing a corpse of an elderly man whose DNA is discovered to be 100% identical to my own DNA, then I -- in my own Future, as an older version of this Present version -- will make a journey into the Past (effectively disappearing from the Universe at that Future moment) and wind up dying and being buried in that grave. And if I try to "cheat" that Fate, and NOT go on a journey to the Past in a Time Machine, what will happen is that somebody will CLONE me at some point and then that genetically identical clone will go back in time to be buried in that grave in the year A.D. 962. Either way, the corpse of some geezer with my DNA will have ended up in that grave.   Causality demands such. As entertaining as the many many Time Travel stories are, they are usually riddled with Causality violations that just don't hold up. The reason that I don't believe that there are an infinite number of parallel Universes existing alongside our "real" Universe with its "real" timeline, is that the Universe we live in obeys certain Conservation laws. The conservation of Mass/Energy... of Momentum... of Angular Momentum... etc. If somebody "leaves" one Universe in order to zip backwards in Time, in order to "change" some Past event which thereby alters Future History, then this means that the "former" Universe LOST MASS-ENERGY (in the form of the Time Traveler and his Machine), and the "new" Universe had to have GAINED that Mass-Energy. But if each Universe has Mass-Energy conservation (which Modern Physics insists upon, the last time I checked), then no Universe should be able to "lose" or "gain" Mass-Energy from or to some "other" Universe.   If Caesar can somehow prevent Doomsday from happening... then he will have prevented his Future fetal-self from having the opportunity to go backwards through Time in the first place. And if he -- in Zira's womb on 11-23-3955 -- does not go back in Time to 1973, he won't be alive in that Past to even contemplate altering the Future.   Hasslein tried to change the Future and, rather than CHANGING it, he helped to CREATE it, since Caesar's later-in-life trip to the forbidden city would not have happened had he not been orphaned, due to Hasslein's murderous designs. If not for Caesar's trip to the bombed ruin, Kolp would never have led his army to try to conquer Ape City (having ordered Alma to fire the Bomb if he should fail). And, when he did fail, and Alma was about to fire the Bomb as per his orders, Mendez then convinced her (and the other "mutants") that they should "venerate" the Bomb. Thus, the Bomb-worshipping only happened as a direct result of the actions that Hasslein committed in a futile attempt to alter the Future.   Partick ;) ____________ --- On Fri, 7/17/09, TZer0@... <TZer0@...> wrote: From: TZer0@... <TZer0@...> Subject: [PotaDG] For Partick . . . To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 12:21 AM     Here's an interesting website. Not really.  In fact, for easily distracted folks like me it's drawn out and boring.  But I thought maybe Patrick could read it and condense it to one long winded post I'd be able to get through that.  Nice graphs and math for him to ponder.     Time Travel and Modern Physics (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)     A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:19 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

 

Is that Kevin?

Jess is that YOU?!?!?!

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
To: POTA Group
Subject: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

 

Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
Author: Christian Berntsen
Subject: San Diego goes Ape!

We were invaded! Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their pictures. You guys are great!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:00 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

 

What pictures?

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:19 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

 

Is that Kevin?

Jess is that YOU?!?!?!

Michael

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From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
To: POTA Group
Subject: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

 

Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
Author: Christian Berntsen
Subject: San Diego goes Ape!

We were invaded! Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their pictures. You guys are great!

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