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Group: potadg Message: 55126 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
Group: potadg Message: 55127 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
Group: potadg Message: 55128 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: fantastic voyage 1966 ad
Group: potadg Message: 55129 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Zaius and the statue
Group: potadg Message: 55130 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
Group: potadg Message: 55131 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: OT: box awe-ffice
Group: potadg Message: 55132 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: OT: box awe-ffice
Group: potadg Message: 55133 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page Pic Neil!
Group: potadg Message: 55134 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
Group: potadg Message: 55135 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: "goo" for sale
Group: potadg Message: 55136 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page Pic Neil!
Group: potadg Message: 55137 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page Pic Neil!
Group: potadg Message: 55138 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page Pic Neil!
Group: potadg Message: 55139 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: OT: box awe-ffice
Group: potadg Message: 55140 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: "goo" for sale
Group: potadg Message: 55141 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: "goo" for sale
Group: potadg Message: 55142 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES LANDON'S DOG TAG
Group: potadg Message: 55143 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
Group: potadg Message: 55144 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: PLANET OF THE APES #27 pg 6 ORIG ART BY HERB TRIMPE '76
Group: potadg Message: 55145 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: The Planet Of The Apes Concept Movie Photo D33
Group: potadg Message: 55146 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: The Planet Of The Apes Concept Movie Photo D33
Group: potadg Message: 55147 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: OT: box awe-ffice
Group: potadg Message: 55148 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55149 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page Pic Neil!
Group: potadg Message: 55150 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: The Planet Of The Apes Concept Movie Photo D33
Group: potadg Message: 55151 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55152 From: Jeff Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55153 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55154 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55155 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55156 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55157 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55158 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55159 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 55160 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
Group: potadg Message: 55161 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
Group: potadg Message: 55162 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
Group: potadg Message: 55163 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55164 From: Jeff Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
Group: potadg Message: 55165 From: Jeff Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55166 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: "goo" for sale
Group: potadg Message: 55167 From: Jeff Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: apes from last year
Group: potadg Message: 55168 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Under The Goo . . .
Group: potadg Message: 55169 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55170 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
Group: potadg Message: 55171 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55172 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55173 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
Group: potadg Message: 55174 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: "goo" for sale
Group: potadg Message: 55175 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: apes from last year
Group: potadg Message: 55176 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
Group: potadg Message: 55177 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: San Diego will go Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55178 From: John B Kirtley Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55179 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: San Diego will go Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55180 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55181 From: John B Kirtley Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55182 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: San Diego will go Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55183 From: John B Kirtley Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego will go Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55184 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: Under The Goo . . .
Group: potadg Message: 55185 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55186 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: anyone in Boston make it to this??
Group: potadg Message: 55187 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55188 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55189 From: rassmguy Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55190 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
Group: potadg Message: 55191 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55192 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego will go Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55193 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55194 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: anyone in Boston make it to this??
Group: potadg Message: 55195 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55196 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55197 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Calling Ty Templeton.....
Group: potadg Message: 55198 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55199 From: rassmguy Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: BLAM! Ventures special orders
Group: potadg Message: 55200 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55201 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55202 From: Jeff Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55203 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55204 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55205 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55206 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55207 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
Group: potadg Message: 55208 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55209 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55210 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55211 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55212 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55213 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55214 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55215 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55216 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55217 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55218 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55219 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
Group: potadg Message: 55220 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55221 From: rassmguy Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55222 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55223 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: (no subject)
Group: potadg Message: 55224 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
Group: potadg Message: 55225 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/30/2009
Subject: Re: Calling Ty Templeton.....



Group: potadg Message: 55126 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
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I want that 30 minutes of my life BACK!  J

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 3:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] BS from NZ?!?!

 

 

Well I did actually listen to the whole thing all the way through. I wish I hadn't wasted the time but they did at least make an effort.

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] BS from NZ?!?!

 

BS indeed. I have yet to make it through the Apes adaptation without
giving up in disgust.

Anthony

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Group: potadg Message: 55127 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
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So did Dave Ballard when I told him I think Scrolls has deteriorated in the value for money stakes!

There’s a lot of huffies aren’t there?

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 3:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: BS from NZ?!?!

 

 

I do remember that Bill Hollweg or whatever his name is left this group in a huff when he did get some honest feedback from our members!

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: BS from NZ?!?!

 

Do you think other POTA fans actually appreciate what they do?

I mean I have seen certain people give them encouragement, but never actually say what they think. Isn't that how people know when what they do stinks (or is wonderful)? When they get honest feedback?

I reallythink they could do some wonderful things (like make audio books of fanfics, put an audio track to BTB....so MANY things they COULD do!) but their adaptation of Planet is SO bad and so NOT WORTHWHILE!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
>
> I will listen to my old Power book & record sets for the 250,00 time before I will try to sit through the Broken Seas audio again. I tried. Really I did, but its just awful.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael Whitty" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > I love the honesty of people in this group!
> >
> > How could any POTA fan like their take on the stories?
> >
> > Does anyone here? HONESTly?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac404@> wrote:
> > >
> > > BS indeed. I have yet to make it through the Apes adaptation without
> > > giving up in disgust.
> > >
> > > Anthony
> > >
> >
>

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Group: potadg Message: 55128 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: fantastic voyage 1966 ad
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What’s next?  Time Tunnel screen grabs?


 


From: pota@yahoogroups.com [ pota@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 2:16 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: fantastic voyage 1966 ad

 

 

That " Loews State " theatre is the same one BENEATH would premiere at in
May 1970, only that in 1969 the theatre was divided in to two theatres.

Anybody else here have FATASTIC VOYAGE on DVD? What do you think of
it? I don't think it's aged too well. It's kind of boring now.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge <billburge48@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Cc: billburge48@ yahoo.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:30 pm
Subject: [pota] fantastic voyage 1966 ad [3 Attachments]

 

[Attachment( s) from William Burge included below]

dear group, heres a film two years before planet . it opened on sept 7,
1966 at the loews state and the festivial theatre in new york . this
film made it possible to green light planet along the make up test
footage made in march of 1966 with edward g robinson as dr zaius .
enjoy from william burge also included is the film review dated sept
8,1966.

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Group: potadg Message: 55129 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Zaius and the statue
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It’s possible that Zaius know about the statue – gee this is an old thread!

 

However there’s nothing to say he absolutely DID.

 

I think all we can conclude is that he knows there’s SOMETHING out there that will make Taylor realize he’s home on Earth.

 

Do you think we can agree on that?

 

Michael

 


From: pota@yahoogroups.com [ pota@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 4:00 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Zaius and the statue

 

 

Well...if Zaius had seen the statue then he probably knew it was pointless to try to destroy it because even he told Ursus that you couldn't bring something down made by man with just a clip of bullets.  Don't know if that counts because it's from Beneath.

 

Jess.



 

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:07 PM, <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

 

"Interesting point Tim! Zaius' main goal in life is to hide all
evidence that man once ruled the planet. He blew up the cave without a
second thought. Why would he leave a giant monument of man's standing
in the Forbidden Zone that could be found someday? If he knew it was
there, why didn't he just blow it up."

If they'd used the ending where Taylor was shot and killed, I still
don't think you can assume that Zaius had ever seen the statue before.
Sure, he'd have an answer for what it is, but I don't believe any other
ape beside Cornelius (and whatever other apes where on his
"expedition") had been that far into the Forbidden Zone in the modern
time that the movie took place. If Zaius were all that "all knowing,"
why would he have asked Taylor if there was another tribe? I kind of
think all that Zaius knew came from what he'd read in scrolls.

-- Rory

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Group: potadg Message: 55130 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
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Yes – I just gave up!

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 3:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: BS from NZ?!?!

 

 

Sorry to be so OT, but is anybody having a hard time getting onto the Sideshowcollectors forum?  It's driving me insane.  It's a madhouse, I tell you.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:54 PM, <TZer0@...> wrote:

 

 

LOL!

Why do they even

try to force this stuff on us?

I'm still trying to get that guys

voice out of my head all this time

later, and I listened for less than

a minute!  The Horror . . . The Horror...

 

 

In a message dated 7/27/2009 8:22:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, DrZaiusDavis@ aol.com writes:

I will listen to my old Power book & record sets for the 250,00 time before I will try to sit through the Broken Seas audio again. I tried. Really I did, but its just awful.

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Group: potadg Message: 55131 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: OT: box awe-ffice
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  The hell it ain't. There's a lot of flicks making big bucks. People go if they want to. "Transformers 2" has made more than "Transformers 1" two years ago, when we had our boom that led to our bust. Ha! I said "bust".
 
----- Original Message -----
From: TZer0@...
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: box awe-ffice

 

 
You're forgetting about the date.
2001.  Pre 9/11.  The economy
was booming then.  True, usually
entertainment does better than
most business in a recession,
but it's not recession proof.
 
 
In a message dated 7/27/2009 12:02:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
It's done a lot better in North America but all total, "Star Trek" has brought in $ 379 million to POTA2001's $ 362 million.

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Group: potadg Message: 55132 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: OT: box awe-ffice
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Hollywood is really tightening up on bugets.
This Fall there will only be 2 kinds of movies
and shows.  The ones that are pushing the
president's agenda.  i.e. 2012 and stuff that
has the villains driving Hummers being chased
by the heroes in a Prius.  And the one's made
by the guys saying, "This is not the "change"
we signed on for.  Now THOSE are the movies
that are really going to be the interesting ones.
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2009 7:57:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
"Transformers 1" two years ago, when we had our boom that led to our bust. Ha! I said "bust".
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Group: potadg Message: 55133 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page Pic Neil!
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I couldn't breath in that thing, even though I had about a dozen people asked me to take a photo with them.
I thought it was more sixties than eighties.


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 1:33 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 
I didn't think you looked too bad Kevin, though the hair is a bit eighties isn't it. ;-)
 
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

That is a ugly picture of me if I say so. That's it, i'm going under the goo next year!!!!
I look like a damned mutant!!
Look like I stuck my finger in a electric socket!


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 7:12 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 
 

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 4:14 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] ONLY 50 sets of LANDON'S DOG TAGS LEFT, ORDER ASAP!
 
 
*** Doesn't Paypal usually send you some sort of a receipt that says when your payment was accepted? ***
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/26/09 1:04:21 AM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
Drew, maybe you could give us a list of those who have paid up so we can make sure we're on it!
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 55134 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
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If anybody's interested in my dissection of a Hot Toys gorilla, I've posted photos of it here:

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1982&page=339

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Michael & Sally Whitty < mswhitty@...> wrote:

Yes – I just gave up!


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 3:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: BS from NZ?!?!

Sorry to be so OT, but is anybody having a hard time getting onto the Sideshowcollectors forum? It's driving me insane. It's a madhouse, I tell you.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:54 PM, <TZer0@...> wrote:

LOL!

Why do they even

try to force this stuff on us?

I'm still trying to get that guys

voice out of my head all this time

later, and I listened for less than

a minute! The Horror . . . The Horror...

In a message dated 7/27/2009 8:22:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I will listen to my old Power book & record sets for the 250,00 time before I will try to sit through the Broken Seas audio again. I tried. Really I did, but its just awful.


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Group: potadg Message: 55135 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: "goo" for sale
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Group: potadg Message: 55136 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page Pic Neil!
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You still went to the trouble of dressing up and keeping Apes alive Kevin!!

Tim


From: "PofTAfan@..." <PofTAfan@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:17:33 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

I couldn't breath in that thing, even though I had about a dozen people asked me to take a photo with them.
I thought it was more sixties than eighties.


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 1:33 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 
I didn't think you looked too bad Kevin, though the hair is a bit eighties isn't it. ;-)
 
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

That is a ugly picture of me if I say so. That's it, i'm going under the goo next year!!!!
I look like a damned mutant!!
Look like I stuck my finger in a electric socket!


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 7:12 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 
 

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 4:14 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] ONLY 50 sets of LANDON'S DOG TAGS LEFT, ORDER ASAP!
 
 
*** Doesn't Paypal usually send you some sort of a receipt that says when your payment was accepted? ***
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/26/09 1:04:21 AM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
Drew, maybe you could give us a list of those who have paid up so we can make sure we're on it!
 
 

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Kevin I think you look absolutely adorable. I would hug the stuffing out of you if I saw you at a convention.

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

You still went to the trouble of dressing up and keeping Apes alive Kevin!!

Tim


From: " PofTAfan@..." <PofTAfan@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:17:33 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

I couldn't breath in that thing, even though I had about a dozen people asked me to take a photo with them.
I thought it was more sixties than eighties.


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 1:33 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

I didn't think you looked too bad Kevin, though the hair is a bit eighties isn't it. ;-)
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

That is a ugly picture of me if I say so. That's it, i'm going under the goo next year!!!!
I look like a damned mutant!!
Look like I stuck my finger in a electric socket!


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 7:12 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 4:14 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] ONLY 50 sets of LANDON'S DOG TAGS LEFT, ORDER ASAP!
*** Doesn't Paypal usually send you some sort of a receipt that says when your payment was accepted? ***
In a message dated 7/26/09 1:04:21 AM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
Drew, maybe you could give us a list of those who have paid up so we can make sure we're on it!


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And I’d hug Jess too!

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 4:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 

 

Kevin I think you look absolutely adorable.  I would hug the stuffing out of you if I saw you at a convention.

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:

 

You still went to the trouble of dressing up and keeping Apes alive Kevin!!

Tim

 


From: "PofTAfan@aol. com" <PofTAfan@aol. com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:17:33 PM


Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 

I couldn't breath in that thing, even though I had about a dozen people asked me to take a photo with them.
I thought it was more sixties than eighties.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 1:33 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 

I didn't think you looked too bad Kevin, though the hair is a bit eighties isn't it. ;-)

 

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

That is a ugly picture of me if I say so. That's it, i'm going under the goo next year!!!!
I look like a damned mutant!!
Look like I stuck my finger in a electric socket!


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 7:12 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

 

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 4:14 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] ONLY 50 sets of LANDON'S DOG TAGS LEFT, ORDER ASAP!

 

 

*** Doesn't Paypal usually send you some sort of a receipt that says when your payment was accepted? ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 7/26/09 1:04:21 AM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:

Drew, maybe you could give us a list of those who have paid up so we can make sure we're on it!

 

 

 

 

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The Hangover was good!

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: box awe-ffice

 

 

 

Hollywood is really tightening up on bugets.

This Fall there will only be 2 kinds of movies

and shows.  The ones that are pushing the

president's agenda.  i.e. 2012 and stuff that

has the villains driving Hummers being chased

by the heroes in a Prius.  And the one's made

by the guys saying, "This is not the "change"

we signed on for.  Now THOSE are the movies

that are really going to be the interesting ones.

 

 

In a message dated 7/28/2009 7:57:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:

"Transformers 1" two years ago, when we had our boom that led to our bust. Ha! I said "bust".

 


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Some scary looking faces there. And a scary price for the Apemania stuff compared to the rest.
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:35 AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] "goo" for sale

 
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Group: potadg Message: 55141 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
Subject: Re: "goo" for sale
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Apemania price$ are pricey, but their $tuff is topnotch and looks the most Planet of the Apes out of the whole barrel of monkeys. I have been able to re-use my Apemania Zira raw appliance 3 times. I'm trying to see how long it will last.

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:

Some scary looking faces there. And a scary price for the Apemania stuff compared to the rest.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:35 AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] "goo" for sale


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            Group: potadg Message: 55147 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: OT: box awe-ffice
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            The International is better
            Mark :)
            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
            >
            > The Hangover was good!
            >
            >
            >
            > _____
            >
            > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
            > TZer0@...
            > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:03 AM
            > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: box awe-ffice
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Hollywood is really tightening up on bugets.
            >
            > This Fall there will only be 2 kinds of movies
            >
            > and shows. The ones that are pushing the
            >
            > president's agenda. i.e. 2012 and stuff that
            >
            > has the villains driving Hummers being chased
            >
            > by the heroes in a Prius. And the one's made
            >
            > by the guys saying, "This is not the "change"
            >
            > we signed on for. Now THOSE are the movies
            >
            > that are really going to be the interesting ones.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > In a message dated 7/28/2009 7:57:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
            > veetus@... writes:
            >
            > "Transformers 1" two years ago, when we had our boom that led to our bust.
            > Ha! I said "bust".
            >
            >
            >
            > _____
            >
            > An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See
            > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377107x1201454434/aol?redir=htt
            > p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JulyExc
            > footerNO62> Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!
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            Group: potadg Message: 55148 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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            Were there other apes at the con? Kev did you get to meet with Jeff? My other ape friend says that in all the years he's attended, he has never met an ape at the SDCC. I guess apes are a rare breed and are moving targets. We'll have to plan a big gathering for next year, SDCC 2010...and try to get as many apes as possible to show up in ape regalia.

            Anybody attending Wondercon in San Francisco in 2010, February? My 2 boys and I will be there in ape regalia.

            Anybody planning to attend SDCC in July 2010?

            Jess.

            Oh...and the other exciting news is that I found fabric for Zira's Escape blouse. This fabric has eluded me for years. It's not the exact print, but it's got all the colors. Someday I'll make that Escape outfit for me to wear. Still have to source the skirt/vest fabric and the swing jacket fabric.

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...> wrote:
            I'd prefer to sweat through something that to sweat under something that's not breatheable (like latex).
            I actually have a Zira pullover (the cheap ones) from Apemania, and it's very claustrophobic in there and it's hard to breathe because the muzzle recirculates your exhale before it makes it out of the mouth.


            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

            Okay thanks Jess, I learn something new every day!
            Neil T. Foster
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:41 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

            No. It's actually better to have it glued on, and if what is glued on is foam latex. It's so light you wouldn't even feel it..and you can actually sweat through it.

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

            But wouldn't the heat be even more of a problem with appliances stuck to your face?
            Neil T. Foster
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

            I already making plans for next year, and I am going to make a couple of changes....
            no more pull over masks, I'm going under the goo next year, it got too hot in the convention center
            and I couldn't breath in it, i'm gonna have to make some alterations in the pants and i'm going to sew
            the inner sleeve and make the ape shoes for next year con. I will chat when I get back from San Diego.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 2:03 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

            You guys did so well!! I am so jealous I could not have been there. Next year, 2010, can we make a date for SDCC? I've got to attend a big con!!

            I find it funny that someone was asking if Lacey was Jess. That's so weird!!!
            Wow....how I wish I could have been there.
            Jess.
            On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...> wrote:
            Wow I wonder who that was?!?!!
            Nice work people – great representation!

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
            Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 12:45 AM

            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            Funny though, someone stopped Lacey and asked her if she was Jess. I didn't see his name.
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:18 PM
            Subject: RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            Is that Kevin?
            Jess is that YOU?!?!?!

            Michael

            From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
            Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
            To: POTA Group
            Subject: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
            Author: Christian Berntsen
            Subject: San Diego goes=2 0Ape!
            We were invaded!










            Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their pictures. You guys are great!




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            Group: potadg Message: 55149 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
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            Thanks .
                 But i'm still going to go under the goo.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 2:51 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

             
            Kevin I think you look absolutely adorable.  I would hug the stuffing out of you if I saw you at a convention.

            Jess.

            On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tim "apefan" < apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:
             
            You still went to the trouble of dressing up and keeping Apes alive Kevin!!

            Tim


            From: " PofTAfan@aol. com" <PofTAfan@aol. com>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:17:33 PM

            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

            I couldn't breath in that thing, even though I had about a dozen people asked me to take a photo with them.
            I thought it was more sixties than eighties.


            -----Original Message-----
            From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 1:33 am
            Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

             
            I didn't think you looked too bad Kevin, though the hair is a bit eighties isn't it. ;-)
             
            Neil T. Foster
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:47 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

            That is a ugly picture of me if I say so. That's it, i'm going under the goo next year!!!!
            I look like a damned mutant!!
            Look like I stuck my finger in a electric socket!


            -----Original Message-----
            From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 7:12 am
            Subject: [PotaDG] Nice Home Page Pic Neil!

             
             

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
            Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 4:14 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] ONLY 50 sets of LANDON'S DOG TAGS LEFT, ORDER ASAP!
             
             
            *** Doesn't Paypal usually send you some sort of a receipt that says when your payment was accepted? ***
             
             
             
            In a message dated 7/26/09 1:04:21 AM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
            Drew, maybe you could give us a list of those who have paid up so we can make sure we're on it!
             
             


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            Group: potadg Message: 55150 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: The Planet Of The Apes Concept Movie Photo D33
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            Where did THIS come from?!?!?

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
            >
            > Whoa that one is fantastic. I really love that one.
            >
            > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
            >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Planet-Of-The-Apes-Concept-Movie-Photo-D33_W0QQitemZ370235677850QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Photo_Images?hash=item5633c41c9a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A4|294%3A50<http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Planet-Of-The-Apes-Concept-Movie-Photo-D33_W0QQitemZ370235677850QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Photo_Images?hash=item5633c41c9a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A4%7C294%3A50>
            > >
            > >
            > > *Neil T. Foster*
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
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            Group: potadg Message: 55151 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
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            Neil and I will be there.

            If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

            If all goes as planned (busting to say more but I cannot yet), we'll also be launching the new POTA monthly comic!

            Michael

            PS If we can we'll also see you in Feb, but hey can we all try to get to SDCC in July 2010? I'd love to meet up with as manyof you as I can and I can only get theer from Australia every so often!!! :)

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
            >
            > Were there other apes at the con? Kev did you get to meet with Jeff? My
            > other ape friend says that in all the years he's attended, he has never met
            > an ape at the SDCC. I guess apes are a rare breed and are moving targets.
            > We'll have to plan a big gathering for next year, SDCC 2010...and try to get
            > as many apes as possible to show up in ape regalia.
            >
            > Anybody attending Wondercon in San Francisco in 2010, February? My 2 boys
            > and I will be there in ape regalia.
            >
            > Anybody planning to attend SDCC in July 2010?
            >
            > Jess.
            >
            > Oh...and the other exciting news is that I found fabric for Zira's Escape
            > blouse. This fabric has eluded me for years. It's not the exact print, but
            > it's got all the colors. Someday I'll make that Escape outfit for me to
            > wear. Still have to source the skirt/vest fabric and the swing jacket
            > fabric.
            >
            > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>wrote:
            >
            > > I'd prefer to sweat through something that to sweat under something that's
            > > not breatheable (like latex).
            > >
            > > I actually have a Zira pullover (the cheap ones) from Apemania, and it's
            > > very claustrophobic in there and it's hard to breathe because the muzzle
            > > recirculates your exhale before it makes it out of the mouth.
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>wrote:
            > >
            > >>
            > >>
            > >> Okay thanks Jess, I learn something new every day!
            > >>
            > >> *Neil T. Foster*
            > >> **
            > >>
            > >> -----Original Message-----
            > >> *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf
            > >> Of *jessica rotich
            > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:41 PM
            > >> *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > >> *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>
            > >>
            > >>
            > >> No. It's actually better to have it glued on, and if what is glued on is
            > >> foam latex. It's so light you wouldn't even feel it..and you can actually
            > >> sweat through it.
            > >>
            > >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>wrote:
            > >>
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>> But wouldn't the heat be even more of a problem with appliances stuck to
            > >>> your face?
            > >>>
            > >>> *Neil T. Foster*
            > >>> **
            > >>>
            > >>> -----Original Message-----
            > >>> *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] *On
            > >>> Behalf Of *PofTAfan@...
            > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 AM
            > >>> *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > >>> *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>> I already making plans for next year, and I am going to make a couple of
            > >>> changes....
            > >>> no more pull over masks, I'm going under the goo next year, it got too
            > >>> hot in the convention center
            > >>> and I couldn't breath in it, i'm gonna have to make some alterations in
            > >>> the pants and i'm going to sew
            > >>> the inner sleeve and make the ape shoes for next year con. I will chat
            > >>> when I get back from San Diego.
            > >>>
            > >>> Kevin
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>> -----Original Message-----
            > >>> From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
            > >>> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > >>> Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 2:03 pm
            > >>> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>
            > >>> You guys did so well!! I am so jealous I could not have been
            > >>> there. Next year, 2010, can we make a date for SDCC? I've got to attend a
            > >>> big con!!
            > >>>
            > >>> I find it funny that someone was asking if Lacey was Jess. That's so
            > >>> weird!!!
            > >>>
            > >>> Wow....how I wish I could have been there.
            > >>>
            > >>> Jess.
            > >>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <
            > >>> mswhitty@...> wrote:
            > >>>
            > >>>> Wow I wonder who that was?!?!!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Nice work people – great representation!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> ------------------------------
            > >>>> *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] *On
            > >>>> Behalf Of *Jeff
            > >>>> *Sent:* Monday, 27 July 2009 12:45 AM
            > >>>> *To:* pota@yahoogroups.com <pota++@yahoogroups.com >
            > >>>> *Cc:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > >>>> *Subject:* [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Funny though, someone stopped Lacey and asked her if she was Jess. I
            > >>>> didn't see his name.
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Jeff B
            > >>>>
            > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
            > >>>> *From:* Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
            > >>>> *To:* pota@yahoogroups.com
            > >>>> *Cc:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:18 PM
            > >>>> *Subject:* RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Is that Kevin?
            > >>>> Jess is that YOU?!?!?!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Michael
            > >>>> ------------------------------
            > >>>> *From:* pota@yahoogroups.com [ pota@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf
            > >>>> Of *James
            > >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
            > >>>> *To:* POTA Group
            > >>>> *Subject:* [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> *Posted on:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
            > >>>> *Author:* Christian Berntsen
            > >>>> *Subject:* San Diego goes=2 0Ape!
            > >>>> We were invaded!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> <http://blogpress.w18.net/photos/09/07/25/559.jpg>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> <http://blogpress.w18.net/photos/09/07/25/560.jpg>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their
            > >>>> pictures. You guys are great!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>
            > >>
            > >>
            > >
            > >
            >
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            Group: potadg Message: 55152 From: Jeff Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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            The ONLY ape I've ever seen was Kevin this year and "The Ape Brothers" back in '05.  But, apparently,  there was a Cornelius and Zira, Gorilla Soldier and The Ape Brothers last year.  We NEVER saw any of them.  That just goes to show you how big San Diego Comic Con is.  I am trying my hrdest to make it to Wonder Con next Feb. 
             
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:54 PM
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             

            Were there other apes at the con?  Kev did you get to meet with Jeff?  My other ape friend says that in all the years he's attended, he has never met an ape at the SDCC.  I guess apes are a rare breed and are moving targets.  We'll have to plan a big gathering for next year, SDCC 2010...and try to get as many apes as possible to show up in ape regalia.

            Anybody attending Wondercon in San Francisco in 2010, February?  My 2 boys and I will be there in ape regalia.

            Anybody planning to attend SDCC in July 2010?

            Jess.

            Oh...and the other exciting news is that I found fabric for Zira's Escape blouse.  This fabric has eluded me for years.  It's not the exact print, but it's got all the colors.  Someday I'll make that Escape outfit for me to wear.  Still have to source the skirt/vest fabric and the swing jacket fabric.

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
            I'd prefer to sweat through something that to sweat under something that's not breatheable (like latex).
             
            I actually have a Zira pullover (the cheap ones) from Apemania, and it's very claustrophobic in there and it's hard to breathe because the muzzle recirculates your exhale before it makes it out of the mouth.
             


             
            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:
             

            Okay thanks Jess, I learn something new every day!
             
            Neil T. Foster
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:41 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             

            No.  It's actually better to have it glued on, and if what is glued on is foam latex.  It's so light you wouldn't even feel it..and you can actually sweat through it. 

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:
             

            But wouldn't the heat be even more of a problem with appliances stuck to your face?
             
            Neil T. Foster
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             

            I already making plans for next year, and I am going to make a couple of changes....
            no more pull over masks, I'm going under the goo next year, it got too hot in the convention center
            and I couldn't breath in it, i'm gonna have to make some alterations in the pants and i'm going to sew
            the inner sleeve and make the ape shoes for next year con.  I will chat when I get back from San Diego.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 2:03 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            You guys did so well!!  I am so jealous I could not have been there.  Next year, 2010, can we make a date for SDCC?  I've got to attend a big con!!

            I find it funny that someone was asking if Lacey was Jess.  That's so weird!!! 
             
            Wow....how I wish I could have been there.
             
            Jess.
            On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au> wrote:
             
            Wow I wonder who that was?!?!!
             
            Nice work people – great representation!
             

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff
            Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 12:45 AM Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
             
            Funny though, someone stopped Lacey and asked her if she was Jess.  I didn't see his name.
             
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:18 PM
            Subject: RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
             
            Is that Kevin?
            Jess is that YOU?!?!?!

            Michael

            From: pota@yahoogroups. com [ pota@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of James
            Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
            To: POTA Group
            Subject: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
            Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
            Author: Christian Berntsen
            Subject: San Diego goes=2 0Ape!
            We were invaded!










            Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their pictures. You guys are great!




            <.html
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            Group: potadg Message: 55153 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            .html
            OMG Exciting news, Michael. Jeff, I'm going to work just as hard to get to SDCC in 2010. I want to bring my two boys with me, so that my husband will not mind so much. OK. So that's my goal for 2010...get to SDCC. Where is the best place to stay for a hotel? I will probably fly in on a Friday and spend the day on Saturday, return Sunday.
            I really really hope we can meet up in February.
            I don't see any photos of the Zira from last year anywhere or any of the apes at all. The only photos I have seen are you and your family, Jeff.
            I think SDCC is a high profile con, so it's important to represent there.
            Jess.

            On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Jeff <skintricks@... > wrote:

            The ONLY ape I've ever seen was Kevin this year and "The Ape Brothers" back in '05. But, apparently, there was a Cornelius and Zira, Gorilla Soldier and The Ape Brothers last year. We NEVER saw any of them. That just goes to show you how big San Diego Comic Con is. I am trying my hrdest to make it to Wonder Con next Feb.
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:54 PM
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

            Were there other apes at the con? Kev did you get to meet with Jeff? My other ape friend says that in all the years he's attended, he has never met an ape at the SDCC. I guess apes are a rare breed and are moving targets. We'll have to plan a big gathering for next year, SDCC 2010...and try to get as many apes as possible to show up in ape regalia.

            Anybody attending Wondercon in San Francisco in 2010, February? My 2 boys and I will be there in ape regalia.

            Anybody planning to attend SDCC in July 2010?

            Jess.

            Oh...and the other exciting news is that I found fabric for Zira's Escape blouse. This fabric has eluded me for years. It's not the exact print, but it's got all the colors. Someday I'll make that Escape outfit for me to wear. Still have to source the skirt/vest fabric and the swing jacket fabric.

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
            I'd prefer to sweat through something that to sweat under something that's not breatheable (like latex).
            I actually have a Zira pullover (the cheap ones) from Apemania, and it's very claustrophobic in there and it's hard to breathe because the muzzle recirculates your exhale before it makes it out of the mouth.


            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

            Okay thanks Jess, I learn something new every day!
            Neil T. Foster
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:41 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

            No. It's actually better to have it glued on, and if what is glued on is foam latex. It's so light you wouldn't even feel it..and you can actually sweat through it.

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

            But wouldn't the heat be even more of a problem with appliances stuck to your face?
            Neil T. Foster
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

            I already making plans for next year, and I am going to make a couple of changes....
            no more pull over masks, I'm going under the goo next year, it got too hot in the convention center
            and I couldn't breath in it, i'm gonna have to make some alterations in the pants and i'm going to sew
            the inner sleeve and make the ape shoes for next year con. I will chat when I get back from San Diego.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 2:03 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

            You guys did so well!! I am so jealous I could not have been there. Next year, 2010, can we make a date for SDCC? I've got to attend a big con!!

            I find it funny that someone was asking if Lacey was Jess. That's so weird!!!
            Wow....how I wish I could have been there.
            Jess.
            On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...> wrote:
            Wow I wonder who that was?!?!!
            Nice work people – great representation!

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
            Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 12:45 AM

            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            Funny though, someone stopped Lacey and asked her if she was Jess. I didn't see his name.
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:18 PM
            Subject: RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            Is that Kevin?
            Jess is that YOU?!?!?!

            Michael

            From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
            Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
            To: POTA Group
            Subject: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
            Author: Christian Berntsen
            Subject: San Diego goes=2 0Ape!
            We were invaded!










            Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their pictures. You guys are great!





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            Group: potadg Message: 55154 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            .html
            I saw Jeff.  I saw some gorillas later on at the con, my friend took a photo of them as my battery died
            on me.  I think a gathering of apes would be a great ideal, I saw grop of Predators, Klingons and
            characters from the Watchmen.  About two years ago, I did see some gorillas and I have a tape back
            in 2000 where I saw some chimpanzees, I just have to figure out how to transfer it to mpeg.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 7:54 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            Were there other apes at the con?  Kev did you get to meet with Jeff?  My other ape friend says that in all the years he's attended, he has never met an ape at the SDCC.  I guess apes are a rare breed and are moving targets.  We'll have to plan a big gathering for next year, SDCC 2010...and try to get as many apes as possible to show up in ape regalia.

            Anybody attending Wondercon in San Francisco in 2010, February?  My 2 boys and I will be there in ape regalia.

            Anybody planning to attend SDCC in July 2010?

            Jess.

            Oh...and the other exciting news is that I found fabric for Zira's Escape blouse.  This fabric has eluded me for years.  It's not the exact print, but it's got all the colors.  Someday I'll make that Escape outfit for me to wear.  Still have to source the skirt/vest fabric and the swing jacket fabric.

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, jessica rotich < jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
            I'd prefer to sweat through something that to sweat under something that's not breatheable (like latex).
             
            I actually have a Zira pullover (the cheap ones) from Apemania, and it's very claustrophobic in there and it's hard to breathe because the muzzle recirculates your exhale before it makes it out of the mouth.
             


             
            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:
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            Okay thanks Jess, I learn something new every day!
             
            Neil T. Foster
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:41 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            No.  It's actually better to have it glued on, and if what is glued on is foam latex.  It's so light you wouldn't even feel it..and you can actually sweat through it. 

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:
             
            But wouldn't the heat be even more of a problem with appliances stuck to your face?
             
            Neil T. Foster
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            I already making plans for next year, and I am going to make a couple of changes....
            no more pull over masks, I'm going under the goo next year, it got too hot in the convention center
            and I couldn't breath in it, i'm gonna have to make some alterations in the pants and i'm going to sew
            the inner sleeve and make the ape shoes for next year con.  I will chat when I get back from San Diego.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 2:03 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            You guys did so well!!  I am so jealous I could not have been there.  Next year, 2010, can we make a date for SDCC?  I've got to attend a big con!!

            I find it funny that someone was asking if Lacey was Jess.  That's so weird!!! 
             
            Wow....how I wish I could have been there.
             
            Jess.
            On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au> wrote:
             
            Wow I wonder who that was?!?!!
             
            Nice work people – great representation!
             

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff
            Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 12:45 AM Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
             
            Funny though, someone stopped Lacey and asked her if she was Jess.  I didn't see his name.
             
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:18 PM
            Subject: RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
             
            Is that Kevin?
            Jess is that YOU?!?!?!

            Michael

            From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of James
            Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
            To: POTA Group
            Subject: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
            Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
            Author: Christian Berntsen
            Subject: San Diego goes=2 0Ape!
            We were invaded!










            Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their pictures. You guys are great!




            <.html
            Group: potadg Message: 55155 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            .html
            If all goes well I'll be hoping to ask Brian at Apemania to bring his group along and with them, and all the other apes we can muster, I think we can say there will be an incredible presence!

            Michael

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            > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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            > From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of James
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            > Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
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            > Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
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            Group: potadg Message: 55156 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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            I will be there to greet both of you. I'm already making plans for 2010 SDCC,
            I would like to see Apes take over the SDCC next year, we should have a
            "Gathering of Apes" at San Diego. We need more
            POTA comics, television shows, anime, anything related to apes.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: Michael Whitty <mswhitty@...>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 8:34 pm
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            Neil and I will be there.

            If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

            If all goes as planned (busting to say more but I cannot yet), we'll also be launching the new POTA monthly comic!

            Michael

            PS If we can we'll also see you in Feb, but hey can we all try to get to SDCC in July 2010? I'd love to meet up with as manyof you as I can and I can only get theer from Australia every so often!!! :)
            =0 A
            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
            >
            > Were there other apes at the con? Kev did you get to meet with Jeff? My
            > other ape friend says that in all the years he's attended, he has never met
            > an ape at the SDCC. I guess apes are a rare breed and are moving targets.
            > We'll have to plan a big gathering for next year, SDCC 2010...and try to get
            > as many apes as possible to show up in ape regalia.
            >
            > Anybody attending Wondercon in San Francisco in 2010, February? My 2 boys
            > and I will be there in ape regalia.
            >
            > Anybody planning to attend SDCC in July 2010?
            >
            > Jess.
            >
            > Oh...and the other exciting news is that I found fabric for Zira's Escape
            > blouse. This fabric has eluded me for years. It's not the exact print, but
            > it's got all the colors. Someday I'll make that Escape outfit for me to
            > wear. Still have to source the skirt/vest fabric and the swing jacket
            > fabric.
            >
            > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...>wrote:
            >
            > > I'd prefer to sweat through something that to sweat under something that's
            > > not breatheable (like latex).
            > >
            > > I actually have a Zira pullover (the cheap ones) from Apeman ia, and it's
            > > very claustrophobic in there and it's hard to breathe because the muzzle
            > > recirculates your exhale before it makes it out of the mouth.
            > >
            > >
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            > >
            > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@.. .>wrote:
            > >
            > >>
            > >>
            > >> Okay thanks Jess, I learn something new every day!
            > >>
            > >> *Neil T. Foster*
            > >> **
            > >>
            > >> -----Original Message-----
            > >> *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf
            > >> Of *jessica rotich
            > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:41 PM
            > >> *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            > >> *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>
            > >>
            > >>
            > >> No. It's actually better to have it glued on, and if what is glued on is
            > >> foam latex. It's so light you wouldn't even feel it..and you can actually
            > >> sweat through it.
            > >>
            > >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@.. .>wrote:
            > >>
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>> But wouldn't the heat b e even more of a problem with appliances stuck to
            > >>> your face?
            > >>>
            > >>> *Neil T. Foster*
            > >>> **
            > >>>
            > >>> -----Original Message-----
            > >>> *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] *On
            > >>> Behalf Of *PofTAfan@.. .
            > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 AM
            > >>> *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            > >>> *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>> I already making plans for next year, and I am going to make a couple of
            > >>> changes....
            > >>> no more pull over masks, I'm going under the goo next year, it got too
            > >>> hot in the convention center
            > >>> and I couldn't breath in it, i'm gonna have to make some alterations in
            > >>> the pants and i'm going to sew
            > >>> the inner sleeve and make the ape shoes for next year con. I will chat
            > >>> when I get back from San Diego.
            > >>>
            > >>> Kevin
            > >>>
            > >>>
            > >>> -----Original Message-----
            > >>> From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...>
            > >>> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            > >>> Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 2:03 pm
            > >>> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>
            > >>> You guys did so well!! I am so jealous I could not have been
            > >>> there. Next year, 2010, can we make a date for SDCC? I've got to attend a
            > >>> big con!!
            > >>>
            > >>> I find it funny that someone was asking if Lacey was Jess. That's so
            > >>> weird!!!
            > >>>
            > >>> Wow....how I wish I could have been there.
            > >>>
            > >>> Jess.
            > >>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <
            > >>> mswhitty@... > wrote:
            > >>>
            > >>>> Wow I wonder who that was?!?!!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Nice work people – great representation!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> ------------ --------- ---------
            > >>>> *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] *On
            > >>>> Behalf Of *Jeff
            > >>>> *Sent:* Monday, 27 July 2009 12:45 AM
            > >>>> *To:* pota@yahoogroups. com < pota++@yahoogroups. com>
            > >>>> *Cc:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            > >>>> *Subject:* [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Funny though, someone stopped Lacey and asked her if she was Jess. I
            > >>>> didn't see his name.
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Jeff B
            > >>>>
            > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
            > >>>> *From:* Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@.. .>
            > >>>> *To:* pota@yahoogroups. com
            > >>>> *Cc:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            > >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:18 PM
            > >>>> *Subject:* RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Is that Kevin?
            > >>>> Jess is that YOU?!?!?!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Michael
            > >>>> ------------ --------- ---------
            > >>>> *From:* pota@yahoogroups. com [ pota@yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf
            > >>>> Of *James
            > >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
            > >>>> *To :* POTA Group
            > >>>> *Subject:* [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
            > >>>>
            > >>>> *Posted on:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
            > >>>> *Author:* Christian Berntsen
            > >>>> *Subject:* San Diego goes=2 0Ape!
            > >>>> We were invaded!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> <http://blogpress. w18.net/photos/ 09/07/25/ 559.jpg>
            > >>>>
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            > >>>> <http://blogpress. w18.net/photos/ 09/07/25/ 560.jpg>
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>> Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their
            > >>>> pictures. You guys are great!
            > >>>>
            > >>>>
            > >>>
            > >>
            > >>
            > >
            > >
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            Group: potadg Message: 55157 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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            If your going to SDCC, your best bet  is to get your hotel ASAP, like in late January
            or early February, because the hotels go fast, that's what i'm pushing for the next
            con. If you do, go to the masqurade ball they have on Saturday night, you should come on
            Thursday.


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 9:07 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            OMG Exciting news, Michael.  Jeff, I'm going to work just as hard to get to SDCC in 2010.  I want to bring my two boys with me, so that my husband will not mind so much.   OK.  So that's my goal for 2010...get to SDCC.  Where is the best place to stay for a hotel?  I will probably fly in on a Friday and spend the day on Saturday, return Sunday. 
             
            I really really hope we can meet up in February.
             
            I don't see any photos of the Zira from last year anywhere or any of the apes at all.  The only photos I have seen are you and your family, Jeff.
             
            I think SDCC is a high profile con, so it's important to represent there.
             
            Jess.

            On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Jeff <skintricks@cox. net > wrote:
             
            The ONLY ape I've ever seen was Kevin this year and "The Ape Brothers" back in '05.  But, apparently,  there was a Cornelius and Zira, Gorilla Soldier and The Ape Brothers last year.  We NEVER saw any of them.  That just goes to show you how big San Diego Comic Con is.  I am trying my hrdest to make it to Wonder Con next Feb. 
             
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:54 PM
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            Were there other apes at the con?  Kev did you get to meet with Jeff?  My other ape friend says that in all the years he's attended, he has never met an ape at the SDCC.  I guess apes are a rare breed and are moving targets.  We'll have to plan a big gathering for next y ear, SDCC 2010...and try to get as many apes as possible to show up in ape regalia.

            Anybody attending Wondercon in San Francisco in 2010, February?  My 2 boys and I will be there in ape regalia.

            Anybody planning to attend SDCC in July 2010?

            Jess.

            Oh...and the other exciting news is that I found fabric for Zira's Escape blouse.  This fabric has eluded me for years.  It's not the exact print, but it's got all the colors.  Someday I'll make that Escape outfit for me to wear.  Still have to source the skirt/vest fabric and the swing jacket fabric.

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
            I'd prefer to sweat through something that to sweat under something that's not breatheable (like latex).
             
            I actually have a Zira pullover (the cheap ones) from Apemania, and it's very claustrophobic in there and it's hard to breathe because the muzzle recirculates your exhale before it makes it out of the mouth.
             


             
            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:
             
            Okay thanks Jess, I learn something new every day!
             
            Neil T. Foster
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:41 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            No.  It's actually better to have it glued on, and if what is glued on is foam latex.  It's so light you wouldn't even feel it..and you can actually sweat through it. 

            On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:
             
            But wouldn't the heat be even more of a problem with appliances stuck to your face?
             
            Neil T. Foster
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            I already making plans for next year, and I am going to make a couple of changes....
            no more pull over masks, I'm going under the goo next year, it got too hot in the convention center
            and I couldn't breath in it, i'm gonna have to make some alterations in the pants and i'm going to sew
            the inner sleeve and make the ape shoes for next year con.  I will chat when I get back from San Diego.

            Kevin


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroup s. com
            Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 2:03 pm
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

             
            You guys did so well!!  I am so jealous I could not have been there.  Next year, 2010, can we make a date for SDCC?  I've got to attend a big con!!

            I find it funny that someone was asking if Lacey was Jess.  That's so weird!!! 
             
            Wow....how I wish I could have been there.
             
            Jess.
            On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au> wrote:
             
            Wow I wonder who that was?!?!!
             
            Nice work people – great representation!
             

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff
            Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 12:45 AM Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
             
            Funny though, someone stopped Lacey and asked her if she was Jess.  I didn't see his name.
             
            Jeff B
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:18 PM
            Subject: RE: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
             
            Is that Kevin?
            Jess is that YOU?!?!?!

            Michael

            From: pota@yahoogroups. com [pota@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of James
            Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:42 AM
            To:
            POTA Group
            Subject: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
             
            Posted on: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:30 PM
            Author: Christian Berntsen
            Subject: San Diego goes=2 0Ape!
            We were invaded!










            Thanks to Jeff & family, and PofAfan for letting us share their pictures. You guys are great!





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            Group: potadg Message: 55158 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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            *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***
             
             
            In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:
            If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!
             
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            Title:   David Warner's Birthday
             
            Date:   Wednesday July 29, 2009
            Time:   All Day
            Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
            Notes:   Happy Birthday David!
            (Sandar: POTA 2001)
             
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            Group: potadg Message: 55160 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/28/2009
            Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
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              *** Were these cards ever sold seperately or only with the "package deal" Drew was selling? I'd like these cards, but I had no desire for the other stuff... If they weren't sold seperately, are there any plans to make them available individually? ***
               
               
               
              In a message dated 7/28/09 5:09:35 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
               
              Neil T. Foster
               
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 55161 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
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              Sold??
                    I got these cards for free! I can't wait to see the other cards to this series, I'm wondering what the other 4 cards are


              -----Original Message-----
              From: mlccougar@...
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 11:49 pm
              Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET

              *** Were these cards ever sold seperately or only with the "package deal" Drew was selling? I'd like these cards, but I had no desire for the other stuff... If they weren't sold seperately, are there any plans to make them available individually? ***
               
               
               
              In a message dated 7/28/09 5:09:35 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
               
              Neil T. Foster
               
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 55162 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
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                BlamVentures made them available for $52 for those who were unable to attend the SDCC to get them for free. This is what you got for $52:
                1 Limited Replica Edition of Landon's Dog Tags
                1 Limited Bio Trading Card Set featuring art by Matt Busch and teaser info about the novel. The first 5 released cards are included here, as the rest aren't going to be made available until later in the year. Eventually there will be 9 in total for this book (and we will offer you the other four later when we produce them for future conventions)!
                1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko
                1 13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian
                Jess.

                On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:20 PM, <PofTAfan@...> wrote:
                Sold??
                I got these cards for free! I can't wait to see the other cards to this series, I'm wondering what the other 4 cards are


                -----Original Message-----
                From: mlccougar@...
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 11:49 pm
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET

                *** Were these cards ever sold seperately or only with the "package deal" Drew was selling? I'd like these cards, but I had no desire for the other stuff... If they weren't sold seperately, are there any plans to make them available individually? ***
                In a message dated 7/28/09 5:09:35 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
                Neil T. Foster


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                Group: potadg Message: 55163 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
                Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love to meet up with you guys!!
                Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying them to show up?
                Jess.

                On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

                *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***
                In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:
                If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!


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                Group: potadg Message: 55164 From: Jeff Date: 7/29/2009
                Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
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                  There are 9 cards in the series.  5 were given out at Comic Con.  The others will be given out at other cons.  Drew said the additional cards would be available later on.  Maybe they'll release the set as a separate deal.
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:20 PM
                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET

                  Sold??
                        I got these cards for free! I can't wait to see the other cards to this series, I'm wondering what the other 4 cards are


                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: mlccougar@...
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 11:49 pm
                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET

                  *** Were these cards ever sold seperately or only with the "package deal" Drew was selling? I'd like these cards, but I had no desire for the other stuff... If they weren't sold seperately, are there any plans to make them available individually? ***
                   
                   
                   
                  In a message dated 7/28/09 5:09:35 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
                   
                  Neil T. Foster
                   
                   
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                  Group: potadg Message: 55165 From: Jeff Date: 7/29/2009
                  Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                  jess, now you sound like Brian (Apeman)
                   
                  Jeff B
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:27 PM
                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                   

                  Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC?  I would really love to meet up with you guys!!
                   
                  Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire.  Who's paying them to show up?
                   
                  Jess.

                  On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol. com> wrote:
                   

                  *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***
                   
                   
                  In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:
                  If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!
                   


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                  You need a PayPal account Jess.
                  Then we can donate to keep you
                  out there doing your thing.  You're
                  the best Zira around.  I'll bet the
                  Apemania Zira doesn't pay for
                  all her own gear.  Anyone?
                   
                  T
                   
                   
                  In a message dated 7/28/2009 3:57:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
                  Apemania price$ are pricey, but their $tuff is topnotch and looks the most Planet of the Apes out of the whole barrel of monkeys.  I have been able to re-use my Apemania Zira raw appliance 3 times.  I'm trying to see how long it will last.

                  Jess.
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                    these are the ones from last year, including OUR group..  I also heard the Ape Brothers were there this year.  I didn't see them and I was there all 5 days.
                     
                    The Ape Brothers
                     
                    Ape Brothers and ???
                    Lacey, Me, Steph, Trey
                    Lexi, Lacey, Me
                     
                     
                     
                     
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                    I remember having to make my own lifemask, with no help. 
                    That requires a lot of planning ahead of time.  Once the
                    alginate is on your face, you're working not only blind, 
                    but you have to lean back.  So you'd better know exactly
                    where your strips of cloth are, and where your pan of Ultra-
                    Cal is.  After that it's a waiting game.  The Ultra-Cal also
                    heats up as it cures, and breathing through straws up your
                    nose can be a bit claustrophobic.  And that is only the
                    beginning.  After the goo, you have to sculpt, and recast,
                    and clean, and whip and pour, and bake, and paint. Then
                    you can start. No wonder Kim had to pop a valium every
                    morning before her session in the makeup chair.  With
                    someone else doing the makeup, your job is to sit there
                    and be cooperative for hours on end doing nothing. And
                    then at the end of it your work day can start. I can't
                    imagine doing it every day for weeks or even months,
                    and especially not in the desert or under Klieg lights.
                    Then another hour or so to take it off at the end of the day.
                     
                     
                    In a message dated 7/28/2009 7:00:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
                    Thanks .
                         But i'm still going to go under the goo.
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                    They should be paying you!
                     
                     
                    In a message dated 7/29/2009 12:28:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
                    Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire.  Who's paying them to show up?
                     
                    Jess.
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                    *** I always found it pretty hypocritical of him to have himself (as Taylor) to set there bitching about how he hates "political correctness" and yet when the comments from this group weren't up to his own version of PC he split... ***
                     

                    From:

                    PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                    Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 3:38 PM
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: BS from NZ?!?!

                      

                    I do remember that Bill Hollweg or whatever his name is left this group in a huff when he did get some honest feedback from our members!

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                    Bring bananas!

                     

                    And grape juice plus….

                     


                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
                    Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 10:48 AM
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                     

                     

                    I will be there to greet both of you. I'm already making plans for 2010 SDCC,
                    I would like to see Apes take over the SDCC next year, we should have a
                    "Gathering of Apes" at San Diego . We need more
                    POTA comics, television shows, anime, anything related to apes.

                    Kevin

                     

                     

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: Michael Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                    Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 8:34 pm
                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                     

                    Neil and I will be there.

                    If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

                    If all goes as planned (busting to say more but I cannot yet), we'll also be launching the new POTA monthly comic!

                    Michael

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                    I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J

                     


                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                    Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                     

                     

                    *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                     

                     

                    In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                    If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

                     

                     

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                      No Drew didn’t offer the cards by themselves…and there’s 4 more to complete the set…..

                       


                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                      Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:50 PM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET

                       

                      *** Were these cards ever sold seperately or only with the "package deal" Drew was selling? I'd like these cards, but I had no desire for the other stuff... If they weren't sold seperately, are there any plans to make them available individually? ***

                       

                       

                       

                      In a message dated 7/28/09 5:09:35 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

                       

                      Neil T. Foster

                       

                       

                       


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                      I believe she gets paid to wear it!  Nice job….

                       


                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
                      Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:48 PM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "goo" for sale

                       

                       

                       

                      You need a PayPal account Jess.

                      Then we can donate to keep you

                      out there doing your thing.  You're

                      the best Zira around.  I'll bet the

                      Apemania Zira doesn't pay for

                      all her own gear.  Anyone?

                       

                      T

                       

                       

                      In a message dated 7/28/2009 3:57:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@ gmail.com writes:

                      Apemania price$ are pricey, but their $tuff is topnotch and looks the most Planet of the Apes out of the whole barrel of monkeys.  I have been able to re-use my Apemania Zira raw appliance 3 times.  I'm trying to see how long it will last.

                      Jess.

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                        AWESOME!

                         


                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff
                        Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:54 PM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: [PotaDG] apes from last year

                         

                         

                        

                        these are the ones from last year, including OUR group..  I also heard the Ape Brothers were there this year.  I didn't see them and I was there all 5 days.

                         

                        The Ape Brothers

                         

                        Ape Brothers and ???

                        Lacey, Me, Steph, Trey

                        Lexi, Lacey, Me

                         

                         

                         

                         

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                        Most people can’t handle any criticism be it intended as constructive or not.

                         

                        Ty took everything we said into account then he made his own decision….and he always said he appreciated the honesty.

                         

                        Drew has already said to me he wants it straight too.

                         

                        Michael

                         


                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                        Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 5:10 PM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: BS from NZ?!?!

                         

                         

                        *** I always found it pretty hypocritical of him to have himself (as Taylor ) to set there bitching about how he hates "political correctness" and yet when the comments from this group weren't up to his own version of PC he split... ***

                         

                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                        Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 3:38 PM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                        Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: BS from NZ?!?!

                           

                        I do remember that Bill Hollweg or whatever his name is left this group in a huff when he did get some honest feedback from our members!

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                        That’s the plan Jess.

                         

                        I’m getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am spending whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.

                         

                        We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly complete.

                         

                        That’s a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially deals with how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the first genetic experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life expectancy well beyond normal humans and apes.

                         

                        My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans….until some factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and the Nazis of our own history).

                         

                        ANYWAY – more of that when it’s on the news stand!

                        If all goes well I’d like to get BTB coloured and out there too (I’d really like to get it translated to Japanese too – I think there’s an ENORMOUS untapped POTA fan base there!).

                         

                        I’ll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if anyone here has an interest in this project please get in touch.  It will probably be a 3 parter like I envisioned “GOING HOME” but I’ll be trying to please fans instead of demolishing their heroes this time.  This 3 parter will introduce fresh characters and again if it is successful I’ll do more.

                         

                        The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN!  No profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!

                         

                        SO…all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to afford to go under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our American cousins at the convention.  And hopefully most will be apes!

                         

                        If all goes to plan we’ll be promoting the new comic, and if I can afford it I’ll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help…Drew will be bloated on profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.

                         

                        That’s if I get out of Apemania with any cash left!  J

                         

                        So that’s the plan – and I mean it when I say I want helpers re the TV Show comics and I also mean it when I say if you don’t take me up on the offer, then don’t go crying about it later and saying “you killed Pete!!!!”.  This is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA comics as a team of fans – all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone.  But don’t wait around too long because this is HAPPENING.


                        Michael

                         


                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
                        Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                         

                         

                        Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC?  I would really love to meet up with you guys!!

                         

                        Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire.  Who's paying them to show up?

                         

                        Jess.

                        On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol. com> wrote:

                         

                        *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                         

                         

                        In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                        If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

                         

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                          I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.
                          John
                           
                           

                          Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM
                          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                           

                          I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J


                          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
                          Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                           

                          *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                          In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                          If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

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                          Group: potadg Message: 55179 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
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                          :0o!

                           

                          Dave – that’s news to me!  Did you actually get it THAT far?

                          MIchael

                           


                          From: pota@yahoogroups.com [ pota@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave B
                          Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:31 PM
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: [pota] Re: San Diego will go Ape!

                           

                           

                          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@.. .> wrote:

                          > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too

                          Ironic, because at one time - bar about the last six to ten pages - it had already been coloured :0(

                          Dave B

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                            WHY?!??!

                            Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                            Nothing beats that!

                            I’m just hopeless at that stuff so I’m waiting till I’m loaded and can pay someone! 
                            J

                             


                            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                            Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                             

                             

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                            I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                            John

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             

                            Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                            Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                             

                             

                            I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J


                            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
                            Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                             

                            *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                            In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                            If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

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                              Cheers.
                               

                              Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                              Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                               

                              WHY?!??!

                              Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                              Nothing beats that!

                              I’m just hopeless at that stuff so I’m waiting till I’m loaded and can pay someone! 
                              J


                              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                              Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                              Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                               

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                              I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                              John

                              Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                              Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                               

                              I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J


                              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
                              Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                              Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                               

                              *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                              In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                              If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

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                              Cool bananas John – start piling things up and let’s get on it!

                               

                              What I have in mind is a wrap-up/farewell to the old TV Show as a 3 part story that introduces new characters (these new characters would then be the focus of new stories that don’t resemble the “let’s move on to the NEXT town” formula).

                               

                              Similar to GOING HOME but a bit more respectful to the TV Show (which I do love – but I really don’t LIKE it that much….but I think when I wrote “GOING HOME” I actually HATED it!).

                               

                              Anyway – for those of you who SAW Going Home, typically brilliant stuff from Neil….ALMOST carried the shitty story!  J

                               

                              SPOILER!















































                              I think it should involve Alan’s son (Chris is it?) having done what all good POTA Astros do and having set off to look for dad and buddies and also have one character who is a bit of w “Lost In Space Dr Smith” (was that in an original script or possibly one of SS “lost stories”?).

                               

                              Also I want the main ape character to break convention and be a gorilla (I don’t know why but I am even thinking maybe a gay gorilla! – CRIKEY! As if being a FIUGITIVE isn’t enough!).

                               

                              And keeping in mind comics require ACTION and they are VISUAL…..


                              Michael

                               


                              From: pota@yahoogroups.com [ pota@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                              Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:14 AM
                              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [pota] San Diego will go Ape!

                               

                               

                              Dear Michael

                               

                              I would love to contribute to the TV project. I write (mainly scripts) and would love to put some new adventures together

                              (possibly an arc story line?) for the TV characters. Maybe some rare photos too?

                               

                              John

                               

                              Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:13 AM

                              Subject: [pota] San Diego will go Ape!

                               

                               

                              That’s the plan Jess.

                              I’m getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am spending whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.

                              We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly complete.

                              That’s a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially deals with how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the first genetic experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life expectancy well beyond normal humans and apes.

                              My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans….until some factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and the Nazis of our own history).

                              ANYWAY – more of that when it’s on the news stand!

                              If all goes well I’d like to get BTB coloured and out there too (I’d really like to get it translated to Japanese too – I think there’s an ENORMOUS untapped POTA fan base there!).

                              I’ll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if anyone here has an interest in this project please get in touch.  It will probably be a 3 parter like I envisioned “GOING HOME” but I’ll be trying to please fans instead of demolishing their heroes this time.  This 3 parter will introduce fresh characters and again if it is successful I’ll do more.

                              The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN!  No profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!

                              SO…all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to afford to go under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our American cousins at the convention.  And hopefully most will be apes!

                              If all goes to plan we’ll be promoting the new comic, and if I can afford it I’ll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help…Drew will be bloated on profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.

                              That’s if I get out of Apemania with any cash left!  J

                              So that’s the plan – and I mean it when I say I want helpers re the TV Show comics and I also mean it when I say if you don’t take me up on the offer, then don’t go crying about it later and saying “you killed Pete!!!!”.  This is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA comics as a team of fans – all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone.  But don’t wait around too long because this is HAPPENING.


                              Michael

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                              Dear Michael
                               
                              I will put a few ideas down and send them to you.
                               
                              Hope you are well
                              J

                              Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:48 PM
                              Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!

                               

                              Cool bananas John – start piling things up and let’s get on it!

                              What I have in mind is a wrap-up/farewell to the old TV Show as a 3 part story that introduces new characters (these new characters would then be the focus of new stories that don’t resemble the “let’s move on to the NEXT town” formula).

                              Similar to GOING HOME but a bit more respectful to the TV Show (which I do love – but I really don’t LIKE it that much….but I think when I wrote “GOING HOME” I actually HATED it!).

                              Anyway – for those of you who SAW Going Home, typically brilliant stuff from Neil….ALMOST carried the shitty story!  J

                              SPOILER!















































                              I think it should involve Alan’s son (Chris is it?) having done what all good POTA Astros do and having set off to look for dad and buddies and also have one character who is a bit of w “Lost In Space Dr Smith” (was that in an original script or possibly one of SS “lost stories”?).

                              Also I want the main ape character to break convention and be a gorilla (I don’t know why but I am even thinking maybe a gay gorilla! – CRIKEY! As if being a FIUGITIVE isn’t enough!).

                              And keeping in mind comics require ACTION and they are VISUAL…..


                              Michael


                              From: pota@yahoogroups. com [ pota@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                              Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:14 AM
                              To: pota@yahoogroups. com
                              Subject: Re: [pota] San Diego will go Ape!

                               

                              Dear Michael

                              I would love to contribute to the TV project. I write (mainly scripts) and would love to put some new adventures together

                              (possibly an arc story line?) for the TV characters. Maybe some rare photos too?

                              John

                              Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:13 AM

                              Subject: [pota] San Diego will go Ape!

                               

                              That’s the plan Jess.

                              I’m getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am spending whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.

                              We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly complete.

                              That’s a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially deals with how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the first genetic experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life expectancy well beyond normal humans and apes.

                              My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans….until some factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and the Nazis of our own history).

                              ANYWAY – more of that when it’s on the news stand!

                              If all goes well I’d like to get BTB coloured and out there too (I’d really like to get it translated to Japanese too – I think there’s an ENORMOUS untapped POTA fan base there!).

                              I’ll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if anyone here has an interest in this project please get in touch.  It will probably be a 3 parter like I envisioned “GOING HOME” but I’ll be trying to please fans instead of demolishing their heroes this time.  This 3 parter will introduce fresh characters and again if it is successful I’ll do more.

                              The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN!  No profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!

                              SO…all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to afford to go under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our American cousins at the convention.  And hopefully most will be apes!

                              If all goes to plan we’ll be promoting the new comic, and if I can afford it I’ll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help…Drew will be bloated on profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.

                              That’s if I get out of Apemania with any cash left!  J

                              So that’s the plan – and I mean it when I say I want helpers re the TV Show comics and I also mean it when I say if you don’t take me up on the offer, then don’t go crying about it later and saying “you killed Pete!!!!”.  This is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA comics as a team of fans – all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone.  But don’t wait around too long because this is HAPPENING.


                              Michael

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                              Group: potadg Message: 55184 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
                              Subject: Re: Under The Goo . . .
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                              T, you are so very brave! I didn't even know that it was possible to do your own lifemask with no help.
                              Jess.

                              On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:12 PM, <TZer0@...> wrote:

                              I remember having to make my own lifemask, with no help.
                              That requires a lot of planning ahead of time. Once the
                              alginate is on your face, you're working not only blind,
                              but you have to lean back. So you'd better know exactly
                              where your strips of cloth are, and where your pan of Ultra-
                              Cal is. After that it's a waiting game. The Ultra-Cal also
                              heats up as it cures, and breathing through straws up your
                              nose can be a bit claustrophobic. And that is only the
                              beginning. After the goo, you have to sculpt, and recast,
                              and clean, and whip and pour, and bake, and paint. Then
                              you can start. No wonder Kim had to pop a valium every
                              morning before her session in the makeup chair. With
                              someone else doing the makeup, your job is to sit there
                              and be cooperative for hours on end doing nothing. And
                              then at the end of it your work day can start. I can't
                              imagine doing it every day for weeks or even months,
                              and especially not in the desert or under Klieg lights.
                              Then another hour or so to take it off at the end of the day.
                              In a message dated 7/28/2009 7:00:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
                              Thanks .
                              But i'm still going to go under the goo.


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                              Group: potadg Message: 55185 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/29/2009
                              Subject: San Diego/Worldcon
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                              I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San Diego
                              Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to make
                              it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year for
                              POTA. Cross fingers.

                              On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                              (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in just a
                              little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year cycle).
                              I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at these
                              events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there has
                              always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see even one
                              sole ape costume.

                              As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see if I
                              get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here going? It
                              would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.

                              PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the horizon
                              Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                              waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go about
                              ordering one.

                              Dario


                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                              Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                              Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!

                              > That's the plan Jess.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                              spending
                              > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly
                              > complete.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially
                              > deals with
                              > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                              > first genetic
                              > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                              > expectancy well
                              > beyond normal humans and apes.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans..until some
                              > factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and
                              > the Nazis of
                              > our own history).
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                              >
                              > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too
                              > (I'd really
                              > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                              > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if
                              > anyone here
                              > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                              > probably be a
                              > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                              > please fans
                              > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter will
                              > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll do more.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN! No
                              > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                              > afford to go
                              > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our
                              > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be apes!
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I can
                              > afford it
                              > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                              > bloated on
                              > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers re
                              > the TV Show
                              > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on
                              > the offer,
                              > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                              > Pete!!!!". This
                              > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA
                              > comics as a
                              > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                              > don't wait
                              > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                              >
                              >
                              > Michael
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > _____
                              >
                              > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
                              > Behalf Of
                              > jessica rotich
                              > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                              > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                              > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love
                              > to meet up
                              > with you guys!!
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying
                              > them to
                              > show up?
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Jess.
                              >
                              > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                              > <mailto:mlccougar@...>com> wrote:
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                              > seem to be
                              > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave
                              > a lot to
                              > be desired... ***
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                              > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@...> com.au writes:
                              >
                              > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo
                              > and fully
                              > dressed!
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                              Group: potadg Message: 55186 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/29/2009
                              Subject: anyone in Boston make it to this??
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                              Group: potadg Message: 55187 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
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                                Wow this is so exciting! I know it's way too far in the future, but for now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                Dario
                                Michael
                                Neil
                                Jeff B.
                                Kevin
                                Jessica and 2 sons
                                John B. K.
                                Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff, but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume. That's a rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between. Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear. I'm posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                Jess.
                                On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley < johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

                                Cheers.

                                Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                WHY?!??!

                                Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                                Nothing beats that!

                                I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded and can pay someone!
                                J


                                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                                Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

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                                I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                                John

                                Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla! J


                                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                                Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                                In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:

                                If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!


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                                Group: potadg Message: 55188 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/29/2009
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                                  I also posted the announcement on TheRPF.com (The Replica Prop Forum). There are only a handful of apes that belong there, but maybe given enough time someone else can answer the bugle call and be in full ape regalia for SDCC 2010.
                                  Jess.

                                  On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM, jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...> wrote:
                                  Wow this is so exciting! I know it's way too far in the future, but for now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                  Dario
                                  Michael
                                  Neil
                                  Jeff B.
                                  Kevin
                                  Jessica and 2 sons
                                  John B. K.
                                  Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff, but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume. That's a rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between. Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear. I'm posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                  Jess.
                                  On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

                                  Cheers.

                                  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                  WHY?!??!

                                  Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                                  Nothing beats that!

                                  I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded and can pay someone!
                                  J


                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                                  Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

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                                  I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                                  John

                                  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                  I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla! J


                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                                  Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                  *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                                  In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:

                                  If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!



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                                  Group: potadg Message: 55189 From: rassmguy Date: 7/29/2009
                                  Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
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                                  Well, if all goes as planned, I'll be there with BLAM!, so be sure to stop by and say hello.


                                  --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
                                  > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San Diego Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to make it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year for POTA. Cross fingers.
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                                  Group: potadg Message: 55190 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
                                  Subject: Re: 2009 SDCC COMIC CON PLANET OF THE APES PROMO CARD SET
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                                  *** Well, if there's still a way to get the first five (and then the last four), I'd be interested in them... ***
                                   
                                   
                                  In a message dated 7/29/09 4:40:05 AM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:
                                  No Drew didn't offer the cards by themselves…and there's 4 more to complete the set…..
                                   
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                                  Group: potadg Message: 55191 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/29/2009
                                  Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                                  well, I have an apemania mask and a costume made for me by friends.....!
                                  that would be awesome to meet you all there! I'll see what I can do.....!
                                  It's hard to plan things so far in advance.!

                                  Tim


                                  From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10:35 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                   

                                  Wow this is so exciting!   I know it's way too far in the future, but for now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                   
                                  Dario
                                  Michael
                                  Neil
                                  Jeff B.
                                  Kevin
                                  Jessica and 2 sons
                                  John B. K.
                                  Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff, but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume.  That's a rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.  Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear.  I'm posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                   
                                  Jess.
                                  On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley < johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:
                                   

                                  Cheers.
                                   

                                  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                   

                                  WHY?!??!

                                  Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                                  Nothing beats that!

                                  I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded and can pay someone! 
                                  J


                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                                  Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                   

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                                  I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                                  John



                                  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                   

                                  I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J


                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
                                  Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                   

                                  *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                                  In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                                  If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!



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                                  Group: potadg Message: 55192 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/29/2009
                                  Subject: Re: San Diego will go Ape!
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                                  *** If anyone does give you an idea, what will you do for them: Pay them something for being a co-writer (or at least "story creator")? You don't want to just take someone's idea and go with it on your own do you? ***
                                   
                                   
                                  n a message dated 7/29/09 5:14:18 AM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:
                                  I mean it when I say I want helpers re the TV Show comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on the offer, then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed Pete!!!!".  This is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA comics as a team of fans – all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone.  But don't wait around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                   
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                                  Group: potadg Message: 55193 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
                                  Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
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                                  OK we’ll miss THIS SF Worldcon, but I love and excuse to visit the US and or Canada so maybe after we conquer SD Comicon we should plan a Conquest of the 2012 SF Worldcon?

                                  Michael

                                   


                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
                                  Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:17 AM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                   

                                   


                                  I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San Diego
                                  Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to make
                                  it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year for
                                  POTA. Cross fingers.

                                  On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                  (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in just a
                                  little over week in Montreal . (It appears that I'm on a 3 year cycle).
                                  I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at these
                                  events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there has
                                  always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see even one
                                  sole ape costume.

                                  As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see if I
                                  get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here going? It
                                  would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.

                                  PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the horizon
                                  Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                  waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go about
                                  ordering one.

                                  Dario

                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
                                  Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                  Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!

                                  > That's the plan Jess.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                  spending
                                  > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly
                                  > complete.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially
                                  > deals with
                                  > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                  > first genetic
                                  > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                  > expectancy well
                                  > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans..until some
                                  > factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and
                                  > the Nazis of
                                  > our own history).
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                  >
                                  > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too
                                  > (I'd really
                                  > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                  > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if
                                  > anyone here
                                  > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                  > probably be a
                                  > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                  > please fans
                                  > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter will
                                  > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll do more.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN! No
                                  > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                  > afford to go
                                  > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our
                                  > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be apes!
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I can
                                  > afford it
                                  > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                  > bloated on
                                  > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers re
                                  > the TV Show
                                  > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on
                                  > the offer,
                                  > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                  > Pete!!!!". This
                                  > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA
                                  > comics as a
                                  > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                  > don't wait
                                  > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Michael
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > _____
                                  >
                                  > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
                                  > Behalf Of
                                  > jessica rotich
                                  > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                  > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                  > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love
                                  > to meet up
                                  > with you guys!!
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying
                                  > them to
                                  > show up?
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Jess.
                                  >
                                  > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                  > <mailto:mlccougar@aol. com>com> wrote:
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                                  > seem to be
                                  > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave
                                  > a lot to
                                  > be desired... ***
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                  > mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty@dodo. com.au> com.au writes:
                                  >
                                  > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo
                                  > and fully
                                  > dressed!
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >

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                                  Group: potadg Message: 55194 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
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                                  No – bjut that’s almost unbeatable Tim!

                                  Lucky buggers….

                                   

                                  Michael

                                   


                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                                  Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:35 AM
                                  To: POTA; POTA DG
                                  Subject: [PotaDG] anyone in Boston make it to this??

                                   

                                   

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                                    We have over a year so now is a good time to begin the planning!

                                    Dario – what ape WOULD you be if you dressed up?

                                    Michael

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 4:11 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    Wow this is so exciting!   I know it's way too far in the future, but for now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:

                                     

                                    Dario

                                    Michael

                                    Neil

                                    Jeff B.

                                    Kevin

                                    Jessica and 2 sons

                                    John B. K.

                                    Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff, but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume.  That's a rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.  Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear.  I'm posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.

                                     

                                    Jess.

                                    On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:

                                     

                                    Cheers.

                                     

                                     

                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM

                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    WHY?!??!

                                    Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                                    Nothing beats that!

                                    I’m just hopeless at that stuff so I’m waiting till I’m loaded and can pay someone! 
                                    J


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

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                                    I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                                    John

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
                                    Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                                    In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                                    If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

                                     

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                                    Just GET THERE Tim!  J

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:20 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    well, I have an apemania mask and a costume made for me by friends..... !
                                    that would be awesome to meet you all there! I'll see what I can do.....!
                                    It's hard to plan things so far in advance.!

                                    Tim

                                     


                                    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10:35 PM
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    Wow this is so exciting!   I know it's way too far in the future, but for now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:

                                     

                                    Dario

                                    Michael

                                    Neil

                                    Jeff B.

                                    Kevin

                                    Jessica and 2 sons

                                    John B. K.

                                    Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff, but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume.  That's a rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.  Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear.  I'm posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.

                                     

                                    Jess.

                                    On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:

                                     

                                    Cheers.

                                     

                                     

                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM

                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    WHY?!??!

                                    Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                                    Nothing beats that!

                                    I’m just hopeless at that stuff so I’m waiting till I’m loaded and can pay someone! 
                                    J


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

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                                    I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                                    John

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
                                    Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                                    In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                                    If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

                                     

                                     

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55197 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
                                    Subject: Calling Ty Templeton.....
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                                    Actually, this is an opportunity to help steer the stories at the moment which is not something I’d pay for.  Did Ty pay us when he asked for ideas/comments?  No, and nor should he have.

                                     

                                    Anyone who submits a full story would be paid for that is they ask for payment.  Ty might be able to tell me what people are getting paid (and HOW – per page….etc?).

                                     

                                    And again I guess everything depends on what the comics make…..if they provide me with thousands in profit then of course I’d be generous with that.

                                     

                                    However I anticipate losing shitloads of money and the last thing I need is people holding their hands out!

                                     

                                    So yeah Neil will be paid, if he chooses to get other srtists/colourers they too will be paid, writers wil be paid, but the committee I am putting together would be doing it for love and a promise that if all my extravagance comes to something I’d compensate them too.

                                     

                                    Does that make sense?

                                    Michael

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:20 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    *** If anyone does give you an idea, what will you do for them: Pay them something for being a co-writer (or at least "story creator")? You don't want to just take someone's idea and go with it on your own do you? ***

                                     

                                     

                                    n a message dated 7/29/09 5:14:18 AM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                                    I mean it when I say I want helpers re the TV Show comics and I also mean it when I say if you don’t take me up on the offer, then don’t go crying about it later and saying “you killed Pete!!!!”.  This is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA comics as a team of fans – all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone.  But don’t wait around too long because this is HAPPENING.

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55198 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
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                                    And where’s some POMS?

                                     

                                    Hilly?

                                     

                                    Moxy?

                                     

                                    Don’t tell me we have to visit England too?  What – with no ashes there till 2013?!?!?!  J

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:43 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    Just GET THERE Tim!  J

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:20 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    well, I have an apemania mask and a costume made for me by friends..... !
                                    that would be awesome to meet you all there! I'll see what I can do.....!
                                    It's hard to plan things so far in advance.!

                                    Tim

                                     


                                    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10:35 PM
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    Wow this is so exciting!   I know it's way too far in the future, but for now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:

                                     

                                    Dario

                                    Michael

                                    Neil

                                    Jeff B.

                                    Kevin

                                    Jessica and 2 sons

                                    John B. K.

                                    Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff, but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume.  That's a rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.  Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear.  I'm posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.

                                     

                                    Jess.

                                    On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:

                                     

                                    Cheers.

                                     

                                     

                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM

                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    WHY?!??!

                                    Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!

                                    Nothing beats that!

                                    I’m just hopeless at that stuff so I’m waiting till I’m loaded and can pay someone! 
                                    J


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

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                                    I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume made up.

                                    John

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM

                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla!  J


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
                                    Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                    *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to be desired... ***

                                    In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo. com.au writes:

                                    If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully dressed!

                                     

                                     

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55199 From: rassmguy Date: 7/29/2009
                                    Subject: BLAM! Ventures special orders
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                                    Hi, folks,

                                    Since Drew Gaska is traveling, he has asked me to post a brief note thanking those who special-ordered BLAM!'s San Diego Comic Con exclusives. Everyone who placed an order will receive a confirmation this weekend, once Drew is back home from the convention.

                                    Rich
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55200 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/29/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                                    No ashes till 2013!!! Thats just nervous talk they had to bring them because at the moment they are going to be leaving without them with there pride broken.
                                    Aussie's are not has good this time round a few fantastic players retired, and not been replaced by anyone has good.
                                    1 - 0 to England can we do bring it back to blighty???
                                    Mark :)
                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > And where's some POMS?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Hilly?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Moxy?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Don't tell me we have to visit England too? What - with no ashes there till
                                    > 2013?!?!?! :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
                                    > Michael & Sally Whitty
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:43 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Just GET THERE Tim! :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
                                    > Tim "apefan"
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:20 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > well, I have an apemania mask and a costume made for me by friends.....!
                                    > that would be awesome to meet you all there! I'll see what I can do.....!
                                    > It's hard to plan things so far in advance.!
                                    >
                                    > Tim
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10:35 PM
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Wow this is so exciting! I know it's way too far in the future, but for
                                    > now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > Michael
                                    >
                                    > Neil
                                    >
                                    > Jeff B.
                                    >
                                    > Kevin
                                    >
                                    > Jessica and 2 sons
                                    >
                                    > John B. K.
                                    >
                                    > Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff,
                                    > but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume. That's a
                                    > rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.
                                    > Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear. I'm
                                    > posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Jess.
                                    >
                                    > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@
                                    > <mailto:johnbkirtley@...> hotmail.com> wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Cheers.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@...> & Sally Whitty
                                    >
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                    >
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    >
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > WHY?!??!
                                    >
                                    > Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!
                                    >
                                    > Nothing beats that!
                                    >
                                    > I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded and can pay
                                    > someone! :-)
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                                    > Of John B Kirtley
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
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                                    >
                                    >
                                    > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@...> & Sally Whitty
                                    >
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM
                                    >
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    >
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla! :-)
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                                    > Of mlccougar@aol. com <mailto:mlccougar@...>
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be
                                    > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to
                                    > be desired... ***
                                    >
                                    > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > com.au <mailto:mswhitty@...> writes:
                                    >
                                    > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully
                                    > dressed!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/175> Get Windows Live Mail to create your own
                                    > photo e-mails
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55201 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    .html
                                    Well that was the best cricket team EVER with Warnie, McGrath, Gilly, Hayden....not many arguments there so of course this team is not as good but they came within centimetres of winning the first and caused a few heart attacks in the second....should be CLOSE! They only have to win one more and tie the rest to keep 'em!

                                    But what I was saying was I'd hope to SEE some ASHES tests when we go to England!

                                    Michael

                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > No ashes till 2013!!! Thats just nervous talk they had to bring them because at the moment they are going to be leaving without them with there pride broken.
                                    > Aussie's are not has good this time round a few fantastic players retired, and not been replaced by anyone has good.
                                    > 1 - 0 to England can we do bring it back to blighty???
                                    > Mark :)
                                    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > And where's some POMS?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Hilly?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Moxy?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Don't tell me we have to visit England too? What - with no ashes there till
                                    > > 2013?!?!?! :-)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
                                    > > Michael & Sally Whitty
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:43 AM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Just GET THERE Tim! :-)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
                                    > > Tim "apefan"
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:20 AM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > well, I have an apemania mask and a costume made for me by friends.....!
                                    > > that would be awesome to meet you all there! I'll see what I can do.....!
                                    > > It's hard to plan things so far in advance.!
                                    > >
                                    > > Tim
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@>
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10:35 PM
                                    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Wow this is so exciting! I know it's way too far in the future, but for
                                    > > now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Dario
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael
                                    > >
                                    > > Neil
                                    > >
                                    > > Jeff B.
                                    > >
                                    > > Kevin
                                    > >
                                    > > Jessica and 2 sons
                                    > >
                                    > > John B. K.
                                    > >
                                    > > Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff,
                                    > > but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume. That's a
                                    > > rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.
                                    > > Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear. I'm
                                    > > posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Jess.
                                    > >
                                    > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@
                                    > > <mailto:johnbkirtley@> hotmail.com> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Cheers.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@> & Sally Whitty
                                    > >
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                    > >
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > >
                                    > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > WHY?!??!
                                    > >
                                    > > Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!
                                    > >
                                    > > Nothing beats that!
                                    > >
                                    > > I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded and can pay
                                    > > someone! :-)
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                                    > > Of John B Kirtley
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Play slideshow
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > <http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/171?path=/photomail/%7bc8eee7a2-fe8b-407b-8400-1f
                                    > > fcf3dd8272%7d&image=98E5CAA0F4FFD02%21656&imagehi=98E5CAA0F4FFD02%21654&CID=
                                    > > 688589678505360642> Play slideshow
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Save all photos
                                    > >
                                    > > Save all photos
                                    > >
                                    > > Want to save all these photos at once? Learn how
                                    > > <http://help.live.com/help.aspx?mkt=en-gb&project=WL_Mailv3&querytype=keywor
                                    > > d&query=segami_lla_evas>
                                    > >
                                    > > Online pictures are available for 30 days
                                    > >
                                    > > I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume
                                    > > made up.
                                    > >
                                    > > John
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > <http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pemimICSh-xi1kYiYDJXnP9Q7kySY8i_ORUjV
                                    > > qJKyQbqRK3tk7YizhmCSu2f29SrUY9z04tDGa6mJgKx81Vc1pA/Full%20Costume%20and%20Ma
                                    > > ke-up%20012.jpg?download>
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > <http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pjhs0f6dB9iRrTyPM4tZYJdTOU51x4VypFKvq
                                    > > yGDUmm3Ycu3p-5G2YEQ0FL3bIcobLQYAHoB0dVkEQrXdpvwSsw/Full%20Costume%20and%20Ma
                                    > > ke-up%20024a.jpg?download>
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@> & Sally Whitty
                                    > >
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM
                                    > >
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > >
                                    > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla! :-)
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                                    > > Of mlccougar@aol. com <mailto:mlccougar@>
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be
                                    > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to
                                    > > be desired... ***
                                    > >
                                    > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > > com.au <mailto:mswhitty@> writes:
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully
                                    > > dressed!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > <http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/175> Get Windows Live Mail to create your own
                                    > > photo e-mails
                                    > >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55202 From: Jeff Date: 7/29/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
                                    .html
                                    .html
                                    Speaking of shirts...I wore a different POTA shirt each day and had comments by numerous people each time.  I even had a few people take pics of my shirts.  I also bought an unauthorized Zaius shirt.  I'll post pics soon.
                                    Jeff B
                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:17 AM
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                     


                                    I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San Diego
                                    Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to make
                                    it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year for
                                    POTA. Cross fingers.

                                    On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                    (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in just a
                                    little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year cycle).
                                    I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at these
                                    events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there has
                                    always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see even one
                                    sole ape costume.

                                    As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see if I
                                    get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here going? It
                                    would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.

                                    PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the horizon
                                    Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                    waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go about
                                    ordering one.

                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
                                    Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!

                                    > That's the plan Jess.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                    spending
                                    > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly
                                    > complete.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially
                                    > deals with
                                    > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                    > first genetic
                                    > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > expectancy well
                                    > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans..until some
                                    > factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and
                                    > the Nazis of
                                    > our own history).
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    >
                                    > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too
                                    > (I'd really
                                    > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                    > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if
                                    > anyone here
                                    > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > probably be a
                                    > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                    > please fans
                                    > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter will
                                    > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll do more.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN! No
                                    > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                    > afford to go
                                    > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our
                                    > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be apes!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I can
                                    > afford it
                                    > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                    > bloated on
                                    > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers re
                                    > the TV Show
                                    > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on
                                    > the offer,
                                    > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA
                                    > comics as a
                                    > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                    > don't wait
                                    > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Michael
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
                                    > Behalf Of
                                    > jessica rotich
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love
                                    > to meet up
                                    > with you guys!!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying
                                    > them to
                                    > show up?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Jess.
                                    >
                                    > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > <mailto:mlccougar@aol. com>com> wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                                    > seem to be
                                    > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave
                                    > a lot to
                                    > be desired... ***
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty@dodo. com.au> com.au writes:
                                    >
                                    > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo
                                    > and fully
                                    > dressed!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >

                                    <.html
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55203 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/29/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
                                    .html
                                    Cool! Please do!

                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Speaking of shirts...I wore a different POTA shirt each day and had comments by numerous people each time. I even had a few people take pics of my shirts. I also bought an unauthorized Zaius shirt. I'll post pics soon.
                                    > Jeff B
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Dario Sciola
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:17 AM
                                    > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San Diego
                                    > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to make
                                    > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year for
                                    > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    >
                                    > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                    > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in just a
                                    > little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year cycle).
                                    > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at these
                                    > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there has
                                    > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see even one
                                    > sole ape costume.
                                    >
                                    > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see if I
                                    > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here going? It
                                    > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    >
                                    > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the horizon
                                    > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                    > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go about
                                    > ordering one.
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    >
                                    > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                    > spending
                                    > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly
                                    > > complete.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially
                                    > > deals with
                                    > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                    > > first genetic
                                    > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > expectancy well
                                    > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans..until some
                                    > > factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and
                                    > > the Nazis of
                                    > > our own history).
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too
                                    > > (I'd really
                                    > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                    > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if
                                    > > anyone here
                                    > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > probably be a
                                    > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                    > > please fans
                                    > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter will
                                    > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll do more.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN! No
                                    > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                    > > afford to go
                                    > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our
                                    > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be apes!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I can
                                    > > afford it
                                    > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                    > > bloated on
                                    > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers re
                                    > > the TV Show
                                    > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on
                                    > > the offer,
                                    > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA
                                    > > comics as a
                                    > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                    > > don't wait
                                    > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
                                    > > Behalf Of
                                    > > jessica rotich
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love
                                    > > to meet up
                                    > > with you guys!!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying
                                    > > them to
                                    > > show up?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Jess.
                                    > >
                                    > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > <mailto:mlccougar@...>com> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                                    > > seem to be
                                    > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave
                                    > > a lot to
                                    > > be desired... ***
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@...> com.au writes:
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo
                                    > > and fully
                                    > > dressed!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55204 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                                    Who are you calling a pom?!

                                    I'd love to meet up with everyone in the flesh (or in the foam latex), but I don't think a trip to the far side of the States is on the cards in the forseeable future. I might make it to England some time though.


                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > And where's some POMS?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Hilly?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Moxy?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Don't tell me we have to visit England too? What - with no ashes there till
                                    > 2013?!?!?! :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
                                    > Michael & Sally Whitty
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:43 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Just GET THERE Tim! :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
                                    > Tim "apefan"
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:20 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > well, I have an apemania mask and a costume made for me by friends.....!
                                    > that would be awesome to meet you all there! I'll see what I can do.....!
                                    > It's hard to plan things so far in advance.!
                                    >
                                    > Tim
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10:35 PM
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Wow this is so exciting! I know it's way too far in the future, but for
                                    > now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > Michael
                                    >
                                    > Neil
                                    >
                                    > Jeff B.
                                    >
                                    > Kevin
                                    >
                                    > Jessica and 2 sons
                                    >
                                    > John B. K.
                                    >
                                    > Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that stuff,
                                    > but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume. That's a
                                    > rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.
                                    > Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear. I'm
                                    > posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Jess.
                                    >
                                    > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@
                                    > <mailto:johnbkirtley@...> hotmail.com> wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Cheers.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@...> & Sally Whitty
                                    >
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                    >
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    >
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > WHY?!??!
                                    >
                                    > Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!
                                    >
                                    > Nothing beats that!
                                    >
                                    > I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded and can pay
                                    > someone! :-)
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                                    > Of John B Kirtley
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Play slideshow
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/171?path=/photomail/%7bc8eee7a2-fe8b-407b-8400-1f
                                    > fcf3dd8272%7d&image=98E5CAA0F4FFD02%21656&imagehi=98E5CAA0F4FFD02%21654&CID=
                                    > 688589678505360642> Play slideshow
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                                    >
                                    >
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                                    >
                                    > Online pictures are available for 30 days
                                    >
                                    > I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better costume
                                    > made up.
                                    >
                                    > John
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pemimICSh-xi1kYiYDJXnP9Q7kySY8i_ORUjV
                                    > qJKyQbqRK3tk7YizhmCSu2f29SrUY9z04tDGa6mJgKx81Vc1pA/Full%20Costume%20and%20Ma
                                    > ke-up%20012.jpg?download>
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pjhs0f6dB9iRrTyPM4tZYJdTOU51x4VypFKvq
                                    > yGDUmm3Ycu3p-5G2YEQ0FL3bIcobLQYAHoB0dVkEQrXdpvwSsw/Full%20Costume%20and%20Ma
                                    > ke-up%20024a.jpg?download>
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@...> & Sally Whitty
                                    >
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM
                                    >
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    >
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla! :-)
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                                    > Of mlccougar@aol. com <mailto:mlccougar@...>
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to be
                                    > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot to
                                    > be desired... ***
                                    >
                                    > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > com.au <mailto:mswhitty@...> writes:
                                    >
                                    > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and fully
                                    > dressed!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/175> Get Windows Live Mail to create your own
                                    > photo e-mails
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55205 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    .html
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                                    It’s all right mate I’ll be coming up your way too – gotta visit the Whitty castle Ballyteague.

                                     

                                    Michael

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 7:30 PM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    Who are you calling a pom?!

                                    I'd love to meet up with everyone in the flesh (or in the foam latex), but I don't think a trip to the far side of the States is on the cards in the forseeable future. I might make it to England some time though.

                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@.. .> wrote:

                                    >
                                    > And where's some POMS?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Hilly?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Moxy?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Don't tell me we have to visit
                                    w:st="on">England too? What - with no ashes there till
                                    > 2013?!?!?! :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
                                    > Michael & Sally Whitty
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:43 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San
                                    Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Just GET THERE Tim! :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
                                    > Tim "apefan"
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 6:20 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San
                                    Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > well, I have an apemania mask and a costume made for me by friends..... !
                                    > that would be awesome to meet you all there! I'll see what I can do.....!
                                    > It's hard to plan things so far in advance.!
                                    >
                                    > Tim
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...>
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10:35 PM
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San
                                    Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Wow this is so exciting! I know it's way too far in the future, but for
                                    > now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > Michael
                                    >
                                    > Neil
                                    >
                                    > Jeff B.
                                    >
                                    > Kevin
                                    >
                                    > Jessica and 2 sons
                                    >
                                    > John B. K.
                                    >
                                    > Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into that
                                    stuff,
                                    > but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume. That's a
                                    > rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far between.
                                    > Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in full ape gear. I'm
                                    > posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Jess.
                                    >
                                    > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@
                                    > <mailto:johnbkirtle y@...> hotmail.com> wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Cheers.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@ ...> & Sally Whitty
                                    >
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                    >
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> com
                                    >
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San
                                    Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > WHY?!??!
                                    >
                                    > Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!
                                    >
                                    > Nothing beats that!
                                    >
                                    > I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded and can pay
                                    > someone! :-)
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com>
                                    > [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> ] On Behalf
                                    > Of John B Kirtley
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com>
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San
                                    Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Play slideshow
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <
                                    href="http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/171?path=/photomail/%7bc8eee7a2-fe8b-407b-8400-1f">http://g.msn. com/5meen_ us/171?path= /photomail/ %7bc8eee7a2- fe8b-407b- 8400-1f
                                    > fcf3dd8272%7d& image=98E5CAA0F4 FFD02%21656& imagehi=98E5CAA0 F4FFD02%21654& CID=
                                    > 688589678505360642> Play slideshow
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                                    >
                                    >
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                                    > Save all photos
                                    >
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                                    href="http://help.live.com/help.aspx?mkt=en-gb&project=WL_Mailv3&querytype=keywor">http://help. live.com/ help.aspx? mkt=en-gb& project=WL_ Mailv3&querytype =keywor
                                    > d&query=segami_ lla_evas>
                                    >
                                    > Online pictures are available for 30 days
                                    >
                                    > I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a better
                                    costume
                                    > made up.
                                    >
                                    > John
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <
                                    href="http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pemimICSh-xi1kYiYDJXnP9Q7kySY8i_ORUjV">http://a7ps1q. bay.livefilestor e.com/y1pemimICS h-xi1kYiYDJXnP9Q 7kySY8i_ORUjV
                                    > qJKyQbqRK3tk7YizhmC Su2f29SrUY9z04tD Ga6mJgKx81Vc1pA/ Full%20Costume% 20and%20Ma
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                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <
                                    href="http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pjhs0f6dB9iRrTyPM4tZYJdTOU51x4VypFKvq">http://a7ps1q. bay.livefilestor e.com/y1pjhs0f6d B9iRrTyPM4tZYJdT OU51x4VypFKvq
                                    > yGDUmm3Ycu3p- 5G2YEQ0FL3bIcobL QYAHoB0dVkEQrXdp vwSsw/Full% 20Costume% 20and%20Ma
                                    > ke-up%20024a. jpg?download>
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > From: Michael <mailto:mswhitty@ ...> & Sally Whitty
                                    >
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM
                                    >
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> com
                                    >
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San
                                    Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a gorilla! :-)
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> com
                                    > [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> ] On Behalf
                                    > Of mlccougar@aol. com <mailto:mlccougar@ ...>
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:
                                    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> com
                                    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San
                                    Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they seem to
                                    be
                                    > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave a lot
                                    to
                                    > be desired... ***
                                    >
                                    > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > com.au <mailto:mswhitty@ ...> writes:
                                    >
                                    > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo and
                                    fully
                                    > dressed!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > <http://g.msn. com/5meen_ us/175>
                                    Get Windows Live Mail to create your own
                                    > photo e-mails
                                    >

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55206 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                                    Hilly!

                                     

                                    Where is ya Hilly?

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 7:30 PM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    Who are you calling a pom?!

                                    .

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55207 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: BS from NZ?!?!
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                                    Top of my wish-list for a good audio would be the un-filmed TV show scripts. They're already written, they might just need some tweaking to make them in-keeping with the rest of the episodes, and because they would be audio. There are plans to do something similar with the scripts from an abandoned TV series of Doctor Who from the mid-eighties, though with the original cast, which adds a bit more credibility.

                                    I have no problem with Broken Sea doing an audio of the movie (I listened to the whole thing), and it was an interesting twist to tie it in more closely with Beneath, but it just didn't work the way they did it - and that would make me very wary of them doing another POTA project.

                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Do you think other POTA fans actually appreciate what they do?
                                    >
                                    > I mean I have seen certain people give them encouragement, but never actually say what they think. Isn't that how people know when what they do stinks (or is wonderful)? When they get honest feedback?
                                    >
                                    > I reallythink they could do some wonderful things (like make audio books of fanfics, put an audio track to BTB....so MANY things they COULD do!) but their adaptation of Planet is SO bad and so NOT WORTHWHILE!
                                    >
                                    > Michael
                                    >
                                    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > I will listen to my old Power book & record sets for the 250,00 time before I will try to sit through the Broken Seas audio again. I tried. Really I did, but its just awful.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <mswhitty@> wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I love the honesty of people in this group!
                                    > > >
                                    > > > How could any POTA fan like their take on the stories?
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Does anyone here? HONESTly?
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael
                                    > > >
                                    > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac404@> wrote:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > BS indeed. I have yet to make it through the Apes adaptation without
                                    > > > > giving up in disgust.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Anthony
                                    > > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55208 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Hilly!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Where is ya Hilly?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____

                                    Lurking at the minute Michael,

                                    I'll send you an E-mail in a sec'

                                    Best,Graham.

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55209 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
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                                    Just to be clear, I'm still a very big "maybe". A lot of things have
                                    to align for me to make it down. But I can try. I guess that with
                                    other here planning to go down, there might even be an opportunity to
                                    share accomodations to bring costs down.

                                    I've never gotten dolled up for any con and never really felt any
                                    inclination to do so. But I suppose if I did, Gorrila would be my
                                    choice of apes, if for no other reason that I could snarl and grunt at
                                    people, kinda like Julius.

                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
                                    Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:10 pm
                                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                    > Wow this is so exciting! I know it's way too far in the future,
                                    > but for
                                    > now here are the apes that are planning to be at SDCC 2010:
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    > Michael
                                    > Neil
                                    > Jeff B.
                                    > Kevin
                                    > Jessica and 2 sons
                                    > John B. K.
                                    > Dario, I don't know if you will have a costume or if you're into
                                    > that stuff,
                                    > but not counting you, we have 8 apes that will be in costume.
                                    > That's a
                                    > rather big bunch of apes, considering that we are so few and far
                                    > between.Let's try to get as many apes as possible to show up in
                                    > full ape gear. I'm
                                    > posting it now to all the ape groups I belong to on Facebook.
                                    >
                                    > Jess.
                                    > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 AM, John B Kirtley
                                    > <johnbkirtley@...>wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Cheers.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:35 PM
                                    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > *Subject:* RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > WHY?!??!
                                    > >
                                    > > Your costume is BRILLIANT and YOU MADE IT!!
                                    > >
                                    > > Nothing beats that!
                                    > >
                                    > > I'm just hopeless at that stuff so I'm waiting till I'm loaded
                                    > and can pay
                                    > > someone! J
                                    > >
                                    > > ------------------------------
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
                                    > *On Behalf
                                    > > Of *John B Kirtley
                                    > > *Sent:* Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:18 AM
                                    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > [image: Play slideshow]
                                    > >
                                    > > Play
                                    > slideshow<http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/171?path=/photomail/%7bc8eee7a2-
                                    fe8b-407b-8400-1ffcf3dd8272%7d&image=98E5CAA0F4FFD02!
                                    656&imagehi=98E5CAA0F4FFD02!654&CID=688589678505360642>
                                    > >
                                    > > [image: Save all photos]
                                    > >
                                    > > Save all photos
                                    > >
                                    > > Want to save all these photos at once? Learn how
                                    > > <http://help.live.com/help.aspx?mkt=en-
                                    > gb&project=WL_Mailv3&querytype=keyword&query=segami_lla_evas>>
                                    > > Online pictures are available for 30 days
                                    > >
                                    > > I will try and get there also in my goo. I will try to get a
                                    better
                                    > > costume made up.
                                    > >
                                    > > John
                                    > >
                                    > > <http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pemimICSh-
                                    >
                                    xi1kYiYDJXnP9Q7kySY8i_ORUjVqJKyQbqRK3tk7YizhmCSu2f29SrUY9z04tDGa6mJgKx8
                                    1Vc1pA/Full%20Costume%20and%20Make-up%20012.jpg?download>
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    <http://a7ps1q.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pjhs0f6dB9iRrTyPM4tZYJdTOU51x4Vy
                                    pFKvqyGDUmm3Ycu3p-5G2YEQ0FL3bIcobLQYAHoB0dVkEQrXdpvwSsw/Full%20Costume%
                                    20and%20Make-up%20024a.jpg?download>
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    > >
                                    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38 AM
                                    > >
                                    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > >
                                    > > *Subject:* RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I want to be a chimp but I think my girth will make me a
                                    > gorilla! J
                                    > > ------------------------------
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
                                    > *On Behalf
                                    > > Of *mlccougar@...
                                    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2009 1:44 PM
                                    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                                    > seem to be
                                    > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans
                                    > leave a lot to
                                    > > be desired... ***
                                    > >
                                    > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > mswhitty@... writes:
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the
                                    > Goo and
                                    > > fully dressed!
                                    > >
                                    > > Get Windows Live Mail to create your own photo e-mails
                                    > > <http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/175>
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55210 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
                                    .html
                                    2012? I would have thought that you would be more inclined to get
                                    something going for the 2010 Worldcon as THAT will be held in your
                                    neck of the woods (well your continent anyway): Aussiecon 4
                                    http://www.aussiecon4.org.au/

                                    The site selection for 2011 will be finalized in Montreal, and the
                                    2012 site will be selected in Australia.

                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:37 pm
                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                    > OK we'll miss THIS SF Worldcon, but I love and excuse to visit the
                                    > US and or
                                    > Canada so maybe after we conquer SD Comicon we should plan a
                                    > Conquest of the
                                    > 2012 SF Worldcon?
                                    >
                                    > Michael
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
                                    > Behalf Of
                                    > Dario Sciola
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:17 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San
                                    > Diego
                                    > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to
                                    > make
                                    > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year
                                    > for
                                    > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    >
                                    > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                    > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in just
                                    > a
                                    > little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year
                                    > cycle).
                                    > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at these
                                    > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there has
                                    > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see even
                                    > one
                                    > sole ape costume.
                                    >
                                    > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see if
                                    > I
                                    > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here
                                    > going? It
                                    > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    >
                                    > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the horizon
                                    > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                    > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go
                                    > about
                                    > ordering one.
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > <mailto:mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>com.au>
                                    > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    >
                                    > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                    > spending
                                    > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS
                                    > nearly> complete.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially
                                    > > deals with
                                    > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                    > > first genetic
                                    > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > expectancy well
                                    > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans..until
                                    > some> factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler
                                    > and
                                    > > the Nazis of
                                    > > our own history).
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too
                                    > > (I'd really
                                    > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                    > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if
                                    > > anyone here
                                    > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > probably be a
                                    > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                    > > please fans
                                    > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter
                                    > will
                                    > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll do
                                    > more.>
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break
                                    > EVEN! No
                                    > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                    > > afford to go
                                    > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our
                                    > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be apes!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I
                                    > can
                                    > > afford it
                                    > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                    > > bloated on
                                    > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers re
                                    > > the TV Show
                                    > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on
                                    > > the offer,
                                    > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA
                                    > > comics as a
                                    > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                    > > don't wait
                                    > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
                                    > On
                                    > > Behalf Of
                                    > > jessica rotich
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love
                                    > > to meet up
                                    > > with you guys!!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying
                                    > > them to
                                    > > show up?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Jess.
                                    > >
                                    > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > <mailto:mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com> com>com> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                                    > > seem to be
                                    > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans
                                    > leave
                                    > > a lot to
                                    > > be desired... ***
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%
                                    40dodo.com.au>
                                    > com.au> com.au writes:
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the
                                    > Goo
                                    > > and fully
                                    > > dressed!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55211 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
                                    .html
                                    .html

                                    OH!  I thought you were saying it gets to near YOU every 3 years!

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:05 PM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                     

                                     


                                    2012? I would have thought that you would be more inclined to get
                                    something going for the 2010 Worldcon as THAT will be held in your
                                    neck of the woods (well your continent anyway): Aussiecon 4
                                    http://www.aussieco n4.org.au/

                                    The site selection for 2011 will be finalized in Montreal , and the
                                    2012 site will be selected in Australia .

                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
                                    Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:37 pm
                                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                    > OK we'll miss THIS SF Worldcon, but I love and excuse to visit the
                                    > US and or
                                    > Canada so maybe after we conquer SD Comicon we should plan a
                                    > Conquest of the
                                    > 2012 SF Worldcon?
                                    >
                                    > Michael
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
                                    > Behalf Of
                                    > Dario Sciola
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:17 AM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San
                                    > Diego
                                    > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to
                                    > make
                                    > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year
                                    > for
                                    > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    >
                                    > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                    > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in just
                                    > a
                                    > little over week in Montreal . (It appears that I'm on a 3 year
                                    > cycle).
                                    > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at these
                                    > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there has
                                    > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see even
                                    > one
                                    > sole ape costume.
                                    >
                                    > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see if
                                    > I
                                    > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here
                                    > going? It
                                    > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    >
                                    > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the horizon
                                    > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                    > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go
                                    > about
                                    > ordering one.
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > <mailto:mswhitty% 40dodo.com. au>com.au>
                                    > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    >
                                    > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                    > spending
                                    > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS
                                    > nearly> complete.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially
                                    > > deals with
                                    > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                    > > first genetic
                                    > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > expectancy well
                                    > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans..until
                                    > some> factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler
                                    > and
                                    > > the Nazis of
                                    > > our own history).
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too
                                    > > (I'd really
                                    > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                    > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if
                                    > > anyone here
                                    > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > probably be a
                                    > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                    > > please fans
                                    > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter
                                    > will
                                    > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll do
                                    > more.>
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break
                                    > EVEN! No
                                    > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                    > > afford to go
                                    > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our
                                    > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be apes!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I
                                    > can
                                    > > afford it
                                    > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                    > > bloated on
                                    > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers re
                                    > > the TV Show
                                    > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on
                                    > > the offer,
                                    > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA
                                    > > comics as a
                                    > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                    > > don't wait
                                    > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
                                    > [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com]
                                    > On
                                    > > Behalf Of
                                    > > jessica rotich
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
                                    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love
                                    > > to meet up
                                    > > with you guys!!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying
                                    > > them to
                                    > > show up?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Jess.
                                    > >
                                    > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > <mailto:mlccougar@ aol. <mailto:mlccougar% 40aol.com> com>com> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                                    > > seem to be
                                    > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans
                                    > leave
                                    > > a lot to
                                    > > be desired... ***
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty @dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%
                                    40dodo.com.au>
                                    > com.au> com.au writes:
                                    > >
                                    > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the
                                    > Goo
                                    > > and fully
                                    > > dressed!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55212 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
                                    .html
                                    Oh, and the sites vying for 2011 are Raleigh N.C, and Reno.

                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
                                    Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:05 am
                                    Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                    >
                                    > 2012? I would have thought that you would be more inclined to get
                                    > something going for the 2010 Worldcon as THAT will be held in your
                                    > neck of the woods (well your continent anyway): Aussiecon 4
                                    > http://www.aussiecon4.org.au/
                                    >
                                    > The site selection for 2011 will be finalized in Montreal, and the
                                    > 2012 site will be selected in Australia.
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:37 pm
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    > > OK we'll miss THIS SF Worldcon, but I love and excuse to visit
                                    > the
                                    > > US and or
                                    > > Canada so maybe after we conquer SD Comicon we should plan a
                                    > > Conquest of the
                                    > > 2012 SF Worldcon?
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
                                    > > Behalf Of
                                    > > Dario Sciola
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:17 AM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San
                                    > > Diego
                                    > > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to
                                    > > make
                                    > > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year
                                    > > for
                                    > > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    > >
                                    > > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                    > > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in
                                    > just
                                    > > a
                                    > > little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year
                                    > > cycle).
                                    > > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at
                                    > these
                                    > > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there
                                    > has
                                    > > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see
                                    > even
                                    > > one
                                    > > sole ape costume.
                                    > >
                                    > > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see
                                    > if
                                    > > I
                                    > > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here
                                    > > going? It
                                    > > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    > >
                                    > > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the
                                    > horizon
                                    > > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                    > > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go
                                    > > about
                                    > > ordering one.
                                    > >
                                    > > Dario
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > > <mailto:mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>com.au>
                                    > > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                    > > spending
                                    > > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS
                                    > > nearly> complete.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that
                                    > essentially
                                    > > > deals with
                                    > > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                    > > > first genetic
                                    > > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > > expectancy well
                                    > > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with
                                    > humans..until
                                    > > some> factions stir things up (and I base this directly on
                                    > Hitler
                                    > > and
                                    > > > the Nazis of
                                    > > > our own history).
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there
                                    > too
                                    > > > (I'd really
                                    > > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                    > > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so
                                    > if
                                    > > > anyone here
                                    > > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > > probably be a
                                    > > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                    > > > please fans
                                    > > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter
                                    > > will
                                    > > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll
                                    > do
                                    > > more.>
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break
                                    > > EVEN! No
                                    > > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                    > > > afford to go
                                    > > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all
                                    > our
                                    > > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be
                                    > apes!> >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I
                                    > > can
                                    > > > afford it
                                    > > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                    > > > bloated on
                                    > > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers
                                    > re
                                    > > > the TV Show
                                    > > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up
                                    > on
                                    > > > the offer,
                                    > > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of
                                    > POTA
                                    > > > comics as a
                                    > > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                    > > > don't wait
                                    > > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > _____
                                    > > >
                                    > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    > com]
                                    > > On
                                    > > > Behalf Of
                                    > > > jessica rotich
                                    > > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really
                                    > love
                                    > > > to meet up
                                    > > > with you guys!!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's
                                    > paying
                                    > > > them to
                                    > > > show up?
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Jess.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > > <mailto:mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com> com>com>
                                    > wrote:> >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as
                                    > they
                                    > > > seem to be
                                    > > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans
                                    > > leave
                                    > > > a lot to
                                    > > > be desired... ***
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%
                                    > 40dodo.com.au>
                                    > > com.au> com.au writes:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the
                                    > > Goo
                                    > > > and fully
                                    > > > dressed!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ------------------------------------
                                    >
                                    > To visit your group on the web, go to:
                                    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
                                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55213 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
                                    .html
                                    I see what you mean. But it doesn't come to me every 3 years, I just
                                    seem to go to IT every 3 years.

                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:13 am
                                    Subject: RE: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                    > OH! I thought you were saying it gets to near YOU every 3 years!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
                                    > Behalf Of
                                    > Dario Sciola
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:05 PM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > 2012? I would have thought that you would be more inclined to get
                                    > something going for the 2010 Worldcon as THAT will be held in your
                                    > neck of the woods (well your continent anyway): Aussiecon 4
                                    > http://www.aussieco <http://www.aussiecon4.org.au/> n4.org.au/
                                    >
                                    > The site selection for 2011 will be finalized in Montreal, and the
                                    > 2012 site will be selected in Australia.
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > <mailto:mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>com.au>
                                    > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:37 pm
                                    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    > > OK we'll miss THIS SF Worldcon, but I love and excuse to visit
                                    > the
                                    > > US and or
                                    > > Canada so maybe after we conquer SD Comicon we should plan a
                                    > > Conquest of the
                                    > > 2012 SF Worldcon?
                                    > >
                                    > > Michael
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
                                    > On
                                    > > Behalf Of
                                    > > Dario Sciola
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:17 AM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San
                                    > > Diego
                                    > > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to
                                    > > make
                                    > > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year
                                    > > for
                                    > > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    > >
                                    > > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                    > > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in
                                    > just
                                    > > a
                                    > > little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year
                                    > > cycle).
                                    > > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at
                                    > these
                                    > > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there
                                    > has
                                    > > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see
                                    > even
                                    > > one
                                    > > sole ape costume.
                                    > >
                                    > > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see
                                    > if
                                    > > I
                                    > > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here
                                    > > going? It
                                    > > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    > >
                                    > > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the
                                    > horizon
                                    > > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                    > > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go
                                    > > about
                                    > > ordering one.
                                    > >
                                    > > Dario
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > > <mailto:mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>com.au>
                                    > > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                    > > spending
                                    > > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS
                                    > > nearly> complete.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that
                                    > essentially
                                    > > > deals with
                                    > > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                    > > > first genetic
                                    > > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > > expectancy well
                                    > > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with
                                    > humans..until
                                    > > some> factions stir things up (and I base this directly on
                                    > Hitler
                                    > > and
                                    > > > the Nazis of
                                    > > > our own history).
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there
                                    > too
                                    > > > (I'd really
                                    > > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                    > > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so
                                    > if
                                    > > > anyone here
                                    > > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > > probably be a
                                    > > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                    > > > please fans
                                    > > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter
                                    > > will
                                    > > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll
                                    > do
                                    > > more.>
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break
                                    > > EVEN! No
                                    > > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                    > > > afford to go
                                    > > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all
                                    > our
                                    > > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be
                                    > apes!> >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I
                                    > > can
                                    > > > afford it
                                    > > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                    > > > bloated on
                                    > > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers
                                    > re
                                    > > > the TV Show
                                    > > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up
                                    > on
                                    > > > the offer,
                                    > > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of
                                    > POTA
                                    > > > comics as a
                                    > > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                    > > > don't wait
                                    > > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > _____
                                    > > >
                                    > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    > com]
                                    > > On
                                    > > > Behalf Of
                                    > > > jessica rotich
                                    > > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really
                                    > love
                                    > > > to meet up
                                    > > > with you guys!!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's
                                    > paying
                                    > > > them to
                                    > > > show up?
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Jess.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > > <mailto:mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com> com>com>
                                    > wrote:> >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as
                                    > they
                                    > > > seem to be
                                    > > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans
                                    > > leave
                                    > > > a lot to
                                    > > > be desired... ***
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%
                                    > 40dodo.com.au>
                                    > > com.au> com.au writes:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the
                                    > > Goo
                                    > > > and fully
                                    > > > dressed!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55214 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
                                    .html
                                    Correction:

                                    Reno is the only candidate for 2011, unless there is a miraculous,
                                    last minute, write-in vote winner.

                                    Raleigh is the only candidate for the 2010 Nasfic. (When the Worldcon
                                    is not held in north america, they chose a Nasfic site in lieu for
                                    people who cannot travel overseas to the WC. Thus, with Melbourne
                                    being the 2010 WC, a Nasfic convention will be held in 2010).

                                    Sorry for the confusion.

                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
                                    Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:14 am
                                    Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                    > Oh, and the sites vying for 2011 are Raleigh N.C, and Reno.
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
                                    > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:05 am
                                    > Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    > > 2012? I would have thought that you would be more inclined to
                                    > get
                                    > > something going for the 2010 Worldcon as THAT will be held in
                                    > your
                                    > > neck of the woods (well your continent anyway): Aussiecon 4
                                    > > http://www.aussiecon4.org.au/
                                    > >
                                    > > The site selection for 2011 will be finalized in Montreal, and
                                    > the
                                    > > 2012 site will be selected in Australia.
                                    > >
                                    > > Dario
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    > > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:37 pm
                                    > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    > >
                                    > > > OK we'll miss THIS SF Worldcon, but I love and excuse to visit
                                    > > the
                                    > > > US and or
                                    > > > Canada so maybe after we conquer SD Comicon we should plan a
                                    > > > Conquest of the
                                    > > > 2012 SF Worldcon?
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > _____
                                    > > >
                                    > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
                                    > On
                                    > > > Behalf Of
                                    > > > Dario Sciola
                                    > > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:17 AM
                                    > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San
                                    > > > Diego
                                    > > > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try
                                    > to
                                    > > > make
                                    > > > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big
                                    > year
                                    > > > for
                                    > > > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction
                                    > Worldcons
                                    > > > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in
                                    > > just
                                    > > > a
                                    > > > little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year
                                    > > > cycle).
                                    > > > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at
                                    > > these
                                    > > > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there
                                    > > has
                                    > > > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see
                                    > > even
                                    > > > one
                                    > > > sole ape costume.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and
                                    > see
                                    > > if
                                    > > > I
                                    > > > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here
                                    > > > going? It
                                    > > > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the
                                    > > horizon
                                    > > > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines.
                                    > Anxiously
                                    > > > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to
                                    > go
                                    > > > about
                                    > > > ordering one.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Dario
                                    > > >
                                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > > > <mailto:mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>com.au>
                                    > > > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I
                                    > am
                                    > > > spending
                                    > > > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of
                                    > BEGINS
                                    > > > nearly> complete.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that
                                    > > essentially
                                    > > > > deals with
                                    > > > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of
                                    > the
                                    > > > > first genetic
                                    > > > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > > > expectancy well
                                    > > > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with
                                    > > humans..until
                                    > > > some> factions stir things up (and I base this directly on
                                    > > Hitler
                                    > > > and
                                    > > > > the Nazis of
                                    > > > > our own history).
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there
                                    > > too
                                    > > > > (I'd really
                                    > > > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's
                                    > an
                                    > > > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release
                                    > so
                                    > > if
                                    > > > > anyone here
                                    > > > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > > > probably be a
                                    > > > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying
                                    > to
                                    > > > > please fans
                                    > > > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter
                                    > > > will
                                    > > > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll
                                    > > do
                                    > > > more.>
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break
                                    > > > EVEN! No
                                    > > > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able
                                    > to
                                    > > > > afford to go
                                    > > > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all
                                    > > our
                                    > > > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will
                                    > be
                                    > > apes!> >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if
                                    > I
                                    > > > can
                                    > > > > afford it
                                    > > > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will
                                    > be
                                    > > > > bloated on
                                    > > > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers
                                    > > re
                                    > > > > the TV Show
                                    > > > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up
                                    > > on
                                    > > > > the offer,
                                    > > > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of
                                    > > POTA
                                    > > > > comics as a
                                    > > > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone.
                                    > But
                                    > > > > don't wait
                                    > > > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Michael
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > _____
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > com]
                                    > > > On
                                    > > > > Behalf Of
                                    > > > > jessica rotich
                                    > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really
                                    > > love
                                    > > > > to meet up
                                    > > > > with you guys!!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's
                                    > > paying
                                    > > > > them to
                                    > > > > show up?
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Jess.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > > > <mailto:mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com> com>com>
                                    > > wrote:> >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as
                                    > > they
                                    > > > > seem to be
                                    > > > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans
                                    > > > leave
                                    > > > > a lot to
                                    > > > > be desired... ***
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > > > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%
                                    > > 40dodo.com.au>
                                    > > > com.au> com.au writes:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under
                                    > the
                                    > > > Goo
                                    > > > > and fully
                                    > > > > dressed!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ------------------------------------
                                    > >
                                    > > To visit your group on the web, go to:
                                    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
                                    > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ------------------------------------
                                    >
                                    > To visit your group on the web, go to:
                                    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
                                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55215 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: San Diego/Worldcon
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                                    Goodness gracious!! If it comes to Reno I'll have to make that 4-hour drive.
                                    Jess.

                                    On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Dario Sciola <darios@... > wrote:


                                    Correction:

                                    Reno is the only candidate for 2011, unless there is a miraculous,
                                    last minute, write-in vote winner.

                                    Raleigh is the only candidate for the 2010 Nasfic. (When the Worldcon
                                    is not held in north america, they chose a Nasfic site in lieu for
                                    people who cannot travel overseas to the WC. Thus, with Melbourne
                                    being the 2010 WC, a Nasfic convention will be held in 2010).

                                    Sorry for the confusion.



                                    Dario

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
                                    Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:14 am
                                    Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon

                                    > Oh, and the sites vying for 2011 are Raleigh N.C, and Reno.
                                    >
                                    > Dario
                                    >
                                    > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > From: Dario Sciola < darios@...>
                                    > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:05 am
                                    > Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    > > 2012? I would have thought that you would be more inclined to
                                    > get
                                    > > something going for the 2010 Worldcon as THAT will be held in
                                    > your
                                    > > neck of the woods (well your continent anyway): Aussiecon 4
                                    > > http://www.aussiecon4.org.au/

                                    > >
                                    > > The site selection for 2011 will be finalized in Montreal, and
                                    > the
                                    > > 2012 site will be selected in Australia.
                                    > >
                                    > > Dario
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
                                    > > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:37 pm
                                    > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    > >
                                    > > > OK we'll miss THIS SF Worldcon, but I love and excuse to visit
                                    > > the
                                    > > > US and or
                                    > > > Canada so maybe after we conquer SD Comicon we should plan a
                                    > > > Conquest of the
                                    > > > 2012 SF Worldcon?
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > _____
                                    > > >
                                    > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
                                    > On
                                    > > > Behalf Of
                                    > > > Dario Sciola
                                    > > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 3:17 AM
                                    > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

                                    > > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San
                                    > > > Diego
                                    > > > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try
                                    > to
                                    > > > make
                                    > > > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big
                                    > year
                                    > > > for
                                    > > > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction
                                    > Worldcons
                                    > > > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in
                                    > > just
                                    > > > a
                                    > > > little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year
                                    > > > cycle).
                                    > > > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at
                                    > > these
                                    > > > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there
                                    > > has
                                    > > > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see
                                    > > even
                                    > > > one
                                    > > > sole ape costume.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and
                                    > see
                                    > > if
                                    > > > I
                                    > > > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here
                                    > > > going? It
                                    > > > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the
                                    > > horizon
                                    > > > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines.
                                    > Anxiously
                                    > > > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to
                                    > go
                                    > > > about
                                    > > > ordering one.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Dario
                                    > > >
                                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
                                    > > > <mailto: mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>com.au>
                                    > > > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I
                                    > am
                                    > > > spending
                                    > > > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of
                                    > BEGINS
                                    > > > nearly> complete.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that
                                    > > essentially
                                    > > > > deals with
                                    > > > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of
                                    > the
                                    > > > > first genetic
                                    > > > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > > > expectancy well
                                    > > > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with
                                    > > humans..until
                                    > > > some> factions stir things up (and I base this directly on
                                    > > Hitler
                                    > > > and
                                    > > > > the Nazis of
                                    > > > > our own history).
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there
                                    > > too
                                    > > > > (I'd really
                                    > > > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's
                                    > an
                                    > > > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release
                                    > so
                                    > > if
                                    > > > > anyone here
                                    > > > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > > > probably be a
                                    > > > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying
                                    > to
                                    > > > > please fans
                                    > > > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter
                                    > > > will
                                    > > > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll
                                    > > do
                                    > > > more.>
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break
                                    > > > EVEN! No
                                    > > > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able
                                    > to
                                    > > > > afford to go
                                    > > > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all
                                    > > our
                                    > > > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will
                                    > be
                                    > > apes!> >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if
                                    > I
                                    > > > can
                                    > > > > afford it
                                    > > > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will
                                    > be
                                    > > > > bloated on
                                    > > > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers
                                    > > re
                                    > > > > the TV Show
                                    > > > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up
                                    > > on
                                    > > > > the offer,
                                    > > > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of
                                    > > POTA
                                    > > > > comics as a
                                    > > > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone.
                                    > But
                                    > > > > don't wait
                                    > > > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Michael
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > _____
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto: PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > com]
                                    > > > On
                                    > > > > Behalf Of
                                    > > > > jessica rotich
                                    > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto: PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
                                    > > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really
                                    > > love
                                    > > > > to meet up
                                    > > > > with you guys!!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's
                                    > > paying
                                    > > > > them to
                                    > > > > show up?
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Jess.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > > > <mailto:mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com > com>com>
                                    > > wrote:> >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as
                                    > > they
                                    > > > > seem to be
                                    > > > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans
                                    > > > leave
                                    > > > > a lot to
                                    > > > > be desired... ***
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > > > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%
                                    > > 40dodo.com.au>
                                    > > > com.au> com.au writes:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under
                                    > the
                                    > > > Goo
                                    > > > > and fully
                                    > > > > dressed!
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ------------------------------------

                                    > >
                                    > > To visit your group on the web, go to:
                                    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
                                    > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ------------------------------------

                                    >
                                    > To visit your group on the web, go to:
                                    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
                                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >


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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55216 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    .html
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                                    Who’s counting?  J

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
                                    Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:44 PM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     


                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com , "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:

                                    >
                                    > Hilly!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Where is ya Hilly?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____

                                    Lurking at the minute Michael,

                                    I'll send you an E-mail in a sec'

                                    Best,Graham.

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55217 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    .html

                                    Didn't you get the E-mail ?

                                    (Sent... oh quite a few hours ago)

                                    I'll try again.

                                    Best,Graham.

                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Who's counting? :-)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > _____
                                    >
                                    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                                    > Graham Hill
                                    > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:44 PM
                                    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" mswhitty@
                                    > wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Hilly!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Where is ya Hilly?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    >
                                    > Lurking at the minute Michael,
                                    >
                                    > I'll send you an E-mail in a sec'
                                    >
                                    > Best,Graham.
                                    >

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55218 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    .html

                                    Have you changed your E-Mail address Michael ?

                                    A message has just bounced back.

                                    Drop me a line at

                                    shop@...

                                    Best,Graham.


                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Didn't you get the E-mail ?
                                    >
                                    > (Sent... oh quite a few hours ago)
                                    >
                                    > I'll try again.
                                    >
                                    > Best,Graham.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" mswhitty@
                                    > wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Who's counting? :-)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                                    > Of
                                    > > Graham Hill
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:44 PM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" mswhitty@
                                    > > wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Hilly!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Where is ya Hilly?
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > Lurking at the minute Michael,
                                    > >
                                    > > I'll send you an E-mail in a sec'
                                    > >
                                    > > Best,Graham.
                                    > >
                                    >

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55219 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    .html
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                                    Hey Graham!

                                    Try this one!

                                    Michael

                                     


                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
                                    Sent: Friday, 31 July 2009 6:32 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!

                                     

                                     

                                    Have you changed your E-Mail address Michael ?

                                    A message has just bounced back.

                                    Drop me a line at

                                    shop@amgrafcomics. co.uk

                                    Best,Graham.


                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com , "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:

                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Didn't you get the E-mail ?
                                    >
                                    > (Sent... oh quite a few hours ago)
                                    >
                                    > I'll try again.
                                    >
                                    > Best,Graham.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ,
                                    "Michael & Sally Whitty" mswhitty@
                                    > wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Who's counting? :-)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf
                                    > Of
                                    > > Graham Hill
                                    > > Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:44 PM
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW:
                                    w:st="on">San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > >
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                                    > >
                                    > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ,
                                    "Michael & Sally Whitty" mswhitty@
                                    > > wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Hilly!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Where is ya Hilly?
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > _____
                                    > >
                                    > > Lurking at the minute Michael,
                                    > >
                                    > > I'll send you an E-mail in a sec'
                                    > >
                                    > > Best,Graham.
                                    > >
                                    >

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55220 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/30/2009
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                                    That would be great to send in photo's of your POTA t-shirts.
                                    Maybe it would be a good idea for the group website or hunter to have a page of all the t-shirts available and one's from the past.In like a file.
                                    And for those interested where these t-shirts are available from, and price they cost.
                                    I know i would be interested what about everyone else????
                                    Mark :)
                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Cool! Please do!
                                    >
                                    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Speaking of shirts...I wore a different POTA shirt each day and had comments by numerous people each time. I even had a few people take pics of my shirts. I also bought an unauthorized Zaius shirt. I'll post pics soon.
                                    > > Jeff B
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > From: Dario Sciola
                                    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:17 AM
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego/Worldcon
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I have a lifelong ambition to one day make it down for the San Diego
                                    > > Comicon. I don't know if I ever will but I guess I should try to make
                                    > > it down for 2010 seeing as this seems that it will be a big year for
                                    > > POTA. Cross fingers.
                                    > >
                                    > > On the other hand I have made it to 2 Science Fiction Worldcons
                                    > > (Toronto 2003, and LA in 2006) and will be doing so again in just a
                                    > > little over week in Montreal. (It appears that I'm on a 3 year cycle).
                                    > > I wish I could report that POTA fandom has some presence at these
                                    > > events, but as I've reported for those past excursions, there has
                                    > > always been very little to report POTAwise. I have yet to see even one
                                    > > sole ape costume.
                                    > >
                                    > > As I do every time, I'll be sporting a new POTA T shirt and see if I
                                    > > get at least a little reaction. By any chance is anyone here going? It
                                    > > would be nice to bump into a few friendly POTA fans.
                                    > >
                                    > > PS: Delighted to hear that their may be a new comic on the horizon
                                    > > Mike/Neil. Also put me down for Forbidden Zone zines. Anxiously
                                    > > waiting to hear when the first issue will be ready and how to go about
                                    > > ordering one.
                                    > >
                                    > > Dario
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@>
                                    > > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:13 am
                                    > > Subject: [PotaDG] San Diego will go Ape!
                                    > >
                                    > > > That's the plan Jess.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I'm getting a massive payout in the very near future and I am
                                    > > spending
                                    > > > whatever it takes to get a monthly comic back on the shelves.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > We have some work to do but we already have issue #1 of BEGINS nearly
                                    > > > complete.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > That's a 3 part comic with a tie-in back story that essentially
                                    > > > deals with
                                    > > > how I feel the apes came to be, and KRONOS who was one of the
                                    > > > first genetic
                                    > > > experiments, who (like the more modern Vampires) has a life
                                    > > > expectancy well
                                    > > > beyond normal humans and apes.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > My apes are in Australia and they get on fine with humans..until some
                                    > > > factions stir things up (and I base this directly on Hitler and
                                    > > > the Nazis of
                                    > > > our own history).
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > ANYWAY - more of that when it's on the news stand!
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes well I'd like to get BTB coloured and out there too
                                    > > > (I'd really
                                    > > > like to get it translated to Japanese too - I think there's an
                                    > > > ENORMOUSuntapped POTA fan base there!).
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > I'll also be doing a TV show comic for UK specific release so if
                                    > > > anyone here
                                    > > > has an interest in this project please get in touch. It will
                                    > > > probably be a
                                    > > > 3 parter like I envisioned "GOING HOME" but I'll be trying to
                                    > > > please fans
                                    > > > instead of demolishing their heroes this time. This 3 parter will
                                    > > > introducefresh characters and again if it is successful I'll do more.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > The best thing about this is that I will just need to break EVEN! No
                                    > > > profit, and I may even be so loaded I can afford a loss!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > SO.all things considered, Neil and I will at LEAST be able to
                                    > > > afford to go
                                    > > > under the Apemania goo and get decked out, and come see all our
                                    > > > Americancousins at the convention. And hopefully most will be apes!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes to plan we'll be promoting the new comic, and if I can
                                    > > > afford it
                                    > > > I'll hire Brian and pals (or maybe Fox will help.Drew will be
                                    > > > bloated on
                                    > > > profits too and may chip in!:) to monkey around.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > That's if I get out of Apemania with any cash left! :-)
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > So that's the plan - and I mean it when I say I want helpers re
                                    > > > the TV Show
                                    > > > comics and I also mean it when I say if you don't take me up on
                                    > > > the offer,
                                    > > > then don't go crying about it later and saying "you killed
                                    > > > Pete!!!!". This
                                    > > > is an offer to any interested party to steer the future of POTA
                                    > > > comics as a
                                    > > > team of fans - all bad blood aside, all past nasties gone. But
                                    > > > don't wait
                                    > > > around too long because this is HAPPENING.
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > _____
                                    > > >
                                    > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
                                    > > > Behalf Of
                                    > > > jessica rotich
                                    > > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:27 PM
                                    > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] FW: San Diego goes Ape!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Michael, Neil...are you both attending SDCC? I would really love
                                    > > > to meet up
                                    > > > with you guys!!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Regarding Apemania--their apes are actors for hire. Who's paying
                                    > > > them to
                                    > > > show up?
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Jess.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:43 PM, <mlccougar@aol.
                                    > > > <mailto:mlccougar@>com> wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > *** If you do that, make sure you're done up as gorillas as they
                                    > > > seem to be
                                    > > > the best looking of their lot... Their chimps and orangutans leave
                                    > > > a lot to
                                    > > > be desired... ***
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > In a message dated 7/28/09 7:34:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
                                    > > > mswhitty@dodo.<mailto:mswhitty@> com.au writes:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > If all goes well we will come via Brian of Apemania, under the Goo
                                    > > > and fully
                                    > > > dressed!
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55221 From: rassmguy Date: 7/30/2009
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                                    That's a cool idea! I had an iron-on Apes t-shirt when I was a kid, but I haven't had any POTA-related shirts since then. However, my seven-year-old son has one, so if someone does put together such an archive, I'll be sure to contribute a photo of the single shirt in my family's possession.


                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
                                    > That would be great to send in photos of your POTA t-shirts.
                                    > Maybe it would be a good idea for the group website or hunter to have a page of all the t-shirts available and one's from the past.In like a file. And for those interested where these t-shirts are available from, and price they cost. I know i would be interested what about everyone else????
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55222 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/30/2009
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                                    I've got several I could add....


                                    From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:43:35 PM
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: San Diego/Worldcon

                                     

                                    That's a cool idea! I had an iron-on Apes t-shirt when I was a kid, but I haven't had any POTA-related shirts since then. However, my seven-year-old son has one, so if someone does put together such an archive, I'll be sure to contribute a photo of the single shirt in my family's possession.

                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
                                    > That would be great to send in photos of your POTA t-shirts.
                                    > Maybe it would be a good idea for the group website or hunter to have a page of all the t-shirts available and one's from the past.In like a file. And for those interested where these t-shirts are available from, and price they cost. I know i would be interested what about everyone else????


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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55223 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/30/2009
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                                    http://jwheatoncolmesneil.blogspot.com/2009/07/movie-beneath-planet-of-apes-1970.html"

                                    interesting read.....

                                    Several things I'd never read before......
                                    such as....


                                    "When Brent and Nova are hiding in the back room of Cornelius and Zira's house, Franciscus is mouthing part of Cornelius's speech"


                                    "An alternate ending was written where Taylor, Brent and Nova escape the underground city prior to the detonation of the bomb, which was not a doomsday device as it is in the finished film. They return to Ape City and, along with Zira and Cornelius, release the humans from the cages and a new order is begun. The script ends hundreds of years later with the Lawgiver teaching a group of ape and human children, who sit in harmony together. The final shot of the script shows a mutated gorilla emerging from the underground and fatally shooting a flying dove."

                                    now.......discuss......

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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55224 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/30/2009
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                                    *** So does Christopher Sauseville... His book is loaded with them... ***
                                     
                                    In a message dated 7/30/09 6:22:19 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:
                                    I've got several I could add....


                                    From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:43:35 PM
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: San Diego/Worldcon

                                     

                                    That's a cool idea! I had an iron-on Apes t-shirt when I was a kid, but I haven't had any POTA-related shirts since then. However, my seven-year-old son has one, so if someone does put together such an archive, I'll be sure to contribute a photo of the single shirt in my family's possession.

                                     
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                                    Group: potadg Message: 55225 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/30/2009
                                    Subject: Re: Calling Ty Templeton.....
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                                    In a message dated 7/29/09 3:51:20 PM Central Daylight Time, mswhitty@... writes:

                                     Did Ty pay us when he asked for ideas/comments?  No, and nor should he have.

                                    *** No, he didn't pay anyone that I'm aware of... But, I thought REVOLUTION was well under way (and had been written, etc.) by the time you ever had a post from him on here... It's pretty obvious that he didn't listen to anyone's comments anyhow, as they went along with the bad  idea of gorillas flying planes among other things... 
                                     
                                    That said, if he or anybody doing a "for profit" comic comes to a message board like this one and asks for ideas then yes, the creator of those ideas should be compensated in some way, even if it's a free subscription to the publication... Why should the one who is producing/publishing it all make any of the (possible) profits? I'm not saying if anyone wants to freely give you story ideas and will not care if they get a piece of the end product that you shouldn't use them, but I'm saying if someone gives you a scripted story and Neil draws it, etc. then it should be credited to whoever wrote it and not just "Whitty Productions" or whatever your company will be called... I mean songwriters have to give credit to someone even if they only came up with the title or a few lines, why should this be any different? You'd be better off giving them credit where applicable rather than being accused plagiarism later on... ***

                                     

                                     

                                    Anyone who submits a full story would be paid for that is they ask for payment.  Ty might be able to tell me what people are getting paid (and HOW – per page….etc?).

                                    *** That's good as far as full stories go, but huge amounts of comments/ideas might count as "co-writing" wouldn't they? Like I said, it's up to you as to how you do it, but somebody who comments to the point of making the story different should have their name on it if they want it added... ***

                                     

                                    However I anticipate losing shitloads of money and the last thing I need is people holding their hands out!

                                    *** Somebody making a large contribution to the story and hoping to make their part in it known is NOT there with their hands out... Someone who is on this group or the "pota" group that seen that you put out a comic and comes out of the woodwork saying "Hey, remember me from the potaDG, I did a post one time that might have given you an idea..." now THAT'S coming to you with their hands out... ***

                                     

                                     

                                    So yeah Neil will be paid, if he chooses to get other artists/colourers they too will be paid, writers will be paid, but the committee I am putting together would be doing it for love and a promise that if all my extravagance comes to something I'd compensate them too.

                                    *** That's good and that's the way it should be... But, you said you have a committee that will be working with you "for the love of it", and yet you also say that writers will be paid, colorers/artists will be paid etc. The question is are you and your group doing all of the stuff at first for free or will you be hiring free-lance writers/artists to work in conjunction with the group you have set up? ***
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