Avatar isn't sci-fi, it's a "fantasy" film...


In a message dated 1/26/2010 1:45:00 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

> 20th Century Fox has announced that on 1/25/10 "Avatar" overtook
> "Titanic" as the #1 movie worldwide ever. Yeah, yeah, one can argue about inflation
> and that people see "Avatar" at the more expensive Imax and 3D venues (I
> heard today that twice as many people saw "Titanic" than "Avatar" still) and
> in terms of # of tickets sold no movie will ever beat "Gone With the Wind"
> (which made $ 400 million for a 1939 movie). But still, in "show me the
> money" terms, sci-fi is back on top.
>
>

</HTML>

.html <.html

That's probably the way it'd be classified by the industry, but then again,
they throw anything with wizards and warlocks, spaceships, or laser guns
into the same category... At the rate they're going, all those super-hero
films will be in that mix too (and I think I've seen them in there a few times
already)....



In a message dated 1/26/2010 3:00:33 PM Central Standard Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> I guess the category id "Sci-fi/Fantasy"

</HTML>

.html <.html

No, but I've heard a lot about it and have seen clips. I can say it doesn't
look or sound like anything I'd want to see...



In a message dated 1/26/2010 3:48:59 PM Central Standard Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> Did you see AVATAR

</HTML>

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Avatar isn't sci-fi, it's a "fantasy" film...

In a message dated 1/26/2010 1:45:00 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@earthlink. net writes:

> 20th Century Fox has announced that on 1/25/10 "Avatar" overtook
> "Titanic" as the #1 movie worldwide ever. Yeah, yeah, one can argue about inflation
> and that people see "Avatar" at the more expensive Imax and 3D venues (I
> heard today that twice as many people saw "Titanic" than "Avatar" still) and
> in terms of # of tickets sold no movie will ever beat "Gone With the Wind"
> (which made $ 400 million for a 1939 movie). But still, in "show me the
> money" terms, sci-fi is back on top.
>
>

</HTML>

<.html

*** From what I've seen on TV, that's all that people seem to be talking
about... ***


In a message dated 1/26/2010 5:31:04 PM Central Standard Time,
ntfoster@... writes:

> the effects and 3D were spectacular

</HTML>

.html   <.html

.html
<.html

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***



In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@... writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

</HTML>

.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.

I thought it was a great movie.

It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***

In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

.

<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.

I thought it was a great movie.

It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***

In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

.

<.html

.html
<.html

.html <.html

.html <.html

.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well it’s in the very least one of the most creatively beautiful things I’ve seen done with 3d animation…

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:12 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

It's probably a great video game.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.

I thought it was a great movie.

It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***

In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

.

<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

I saw it in 2d.

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:19 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Amen to that. Avatar was great!

Saw it twice in digital 3D and once in IMAX 3D. And I'll be watching it at least two more times in IMAX 3D before it leaves theaters.

It's awesome in IMAX.

Al

---

From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:38:47 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.

I thought it was a great movie.

It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***

In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

.

<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

I think it’s significant because Cameron is taking a real risk being a bit of a sneaky Michael Moore and telling Americans they are wrong for killing natives to take their spoils.

I thought it was really well done because it made me feel bad and responsible for the terrible losses the indigenous people have faced over the years.

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Everyone to there own. I still maintain the story was more than just a little predictable for me and way too long winded and in parts quite boring even. I wouldn't want to watch it again and that sums it up for me.

If it does win the best pic Oscar as is being widely predicted I think it will be a disgrace personally.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.

I thought it was a great movie.

It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***

In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

.

<.html

.html <.html

.html <.html

.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:23 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Where did you go?  Melissa saw it and I [promised I’d take her again for 3d.  Wanna come?  ;)

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 5:01 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

That would have made it even worse for me, the 3D was about the only thing that kept me in the cinema until the thing finished!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

I saw it in 2d.

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:19 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Amen to that. Avatar was great!

Saw it twice in digital 3D and once in IMAX 3D. And I'll be watching it at least two more times in IMAX 3D before it leaves theaters.

It's awesome in IMAX.

Al

---

From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:38:47 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.

I thought it was a great movie.

It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.

Michael

---

size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1>

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***

In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

.

<.html

.html
<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:19 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Amen to that. Avatar was great!

Saw it twice in digital 3D and once in IMAX 3D. And I'll be watching it at least two more times in IMAX 3D before it leaves theaters.

It's awesome in IMAX.

 

Al

---

From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:38:47 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.

 

I thought it was a great movie.

 

It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.

 

Michael

 

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

 

*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
anyway... ***

In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

> Avatar's made enough money already.

.

<.html

.html
<.html

I personally loved the film, and look forward to seeing it gain, but I do agree with Neil that it was predictable. It was Dances With Wolves, but set in space. Still, despite that, I think it deserves the accolades it's getting, as it's quite an achievement.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> The movie wasn't aimed at Americans but rather the history of the whole human race. As far back as the Greeks, Romans and every empire and culture that has invated and taken land that wasn't theirs to begin with.
>
> Avatar is a much more broader statement than just American history. Avatar reflects the whole human race.
>
> AlÂ
>
>
>
>
> > >

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@... > wrote:

I personally loved the film, and look forward to seeing it gain, but I do agree with Neil that it was predictable. It was Dances With Wolves, but set in space. Still, despite that, I think it deserves the accolades it's getting, as it's quite an achievement.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> The movie wasn't aimed at Americans but rather the history of the whole human race. As far back as the Greeks, Romans and every empire and culture that has invated and taken land that wasn't theirs to begin with.

>
> Avatar is a much more broader statement than just American history. Avatar reflects the whole human race.
>

> AlÂ
>
>
>
>
>

>
> >
> From:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster > >Michael
> >
> >
> >From:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com

<.html

.html <.html

.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

I personally loved the film, and look forward to seeing it gain, but I do agree with Neil that it was predictable. It was Dances With Wolves, but set in space. Still, despite that, I think it deserves the accolades it's getting, as it's quite an achievement.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@.. .> wrote:
>
> The movie wasn't aimed at Americans but rather the history of the whole human race. As far back as the Greeks, Romans and every empire and culture that has invated and taken land that wasn't theirs to begin with.
>
> Avatar is a much more broader statement than just American history. Avatar reflects the whole human race.
>
> Al 
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@.. .>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 1:49:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
>
>  
> I think it’s significant because Cameron is taking a real risk being a bit of a sneaky Michael Moore and telling Americans they are wrong for killing natives to take their spoils.
>  
> I thought it was really well done because it made me feel bad and responsible for the terrible losses the indigenous people have faced over the years.
>  
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:06 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
>  
>  
> Everyone to there own. I still maintain the story was more than just a little predictable for me and way too long winded and in parts quite boring even. I wouldn't want to watch it again and that sums it up for me.
> If it does win the best pic Oscar as is being widely predicted I think it will be a disgrace personally.
>  
> Neil T. Foster
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> >Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
> >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> > 
> >Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.
> >I thought it was a great movie.
> >It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.
> >Michael
> >
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> >From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
> >Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
> >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> > 
> >*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
> >not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
> >a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
> >anyway... ***
> >
> >In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
> >pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
> >
> >> Avatar's made enough money already.
> >
> >
> >
> >.
>

<.html

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@... > wrote:

Wow that's weird, I was thinking about it last night and about what Michael said about it here and I though it's just the same story / message as Dances With Wolves too! Only Dances did it better and without all the CGI and explosions.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

I personally loved the film, and look forward to seeing it gain, but I do agree with Neil that it was predictable. It was Dances With Wolves, but set in space. Still, despite that, I think it deserves the accolades it's getting, as it's quite an achievement.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> The movie wasn't aimed at Americans but rather the history of the whole human race. As far back as the Greeks, Romans and every empire and culture that has invated and taken land that wasn't theirs to begin with.
>
> Avatar is a much more broader statement than just American history. Avatar reflects the whole human race.
>
> AlÂ
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 1:49:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
>
> Â
> I think it’s significant because Cameron is taking a real risk being a bit of a sneaky Michael Moore and telling Americans they are wrong for killing natives to take their spoils.
> Â
> I thought it was really well done because it made me feel bad and responsible for the terrible losses the indigenous people have faced over the years.
> Â
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:06 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> Â
> Â
> Everyone to there own. I still maintain the story was more than just a little predictable for me and way too long winded and in parts quite boring even. I wouldn't want to watch it again and that sums it up for me.
> If it does win the best pic Oscar as is being widely predicted I think it will be a disgrace personally.
> Â
> Neil T. Foster
> Â
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> >Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
> >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> >Â
> >Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.
> >I thought it was a great movie.
> >It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.
> >Michael
> >
> >

<.html

.html   <.html

.html <.html

.html I really enjoyed Avatar. I give great praise to Cameron for using this technology but for having written a story that needed to be told. Sure it might echo that of "Dances With Wolves" but we again need to be reminded that we as human being can't just go in a take what we want. I think we have to think on the lines of the Prime Directive. Let the natives have their planet and leave them alone.
 
Wendy
 

---

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: pota1968@...
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:33:33 -0800
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

  <.html

.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:29 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

  The best description I've heard is "Dances With Blue Man Group". But there's also a lot of "Dune" in it. And Cameron himself has acknowledged "Princess From Mars".  Then again, "Star Wars" is top to bottom derivative.  To me "Avatar" is basically the American Indians in the Vietnam War visually.  But it has something to say and that's a start. Maybe Fox will be a little less afraid to give POTA some meat this time.

From: Neil Foster

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:22 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Wow that's weird, I was thinking about it last night and about what Michael said about it here and I though it's just the same story / message as Dances With Wolves too! Only Dances did it better and without all the CGI and explosions.

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

I personally loved the film, and look forward to seeing it gain, but I do agree with Neil that it was predictable. It was Dances With Wolves, but set in space. Still, despite that, I think it deserves the accolades it's getting, as it's quite an achievement.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@.. .> wrote:
>
> The movie wasn't aimed at Americans but rather the history of the whole human race. As far back as the Greeks, Romans and every empire and culture that has invated and taken land that wasn't theirs to begin with.
>
> Avatar is a much more broader statement than just American history. Avatar reflects the whole human race.
>
> Al 
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@.. .>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 1:49:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
>
>  
> I think it’s significant because Cameron is taking a real risk being a bit of a sneaky Michael Moore and telling Americans they are wrong for killing natives to take their spoils.
>  
> I thought it was really well done because it made me feel bad and responsible for the terrible losses the indigenous people have faced over the years.
>  
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:06 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
>  
>  
> Everyone to there own. I still maintain the story was more than just a little predictable for me and way too long winded and in parts quite boring even. I wouldn't want to watch it again and that sums it up for me.
> If it does win the best pic Oscar as is being widely predicted I think it will be a disgrace personally.
>  
> Neil T. Foster
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> >Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
> >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> > 
> >Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.
> >I thought it was a great movie.
> >It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.
> >Michael
> >
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> >From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
> >Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
> >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> > 
> >*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
> >not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
> >a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
> >anyway... ***
> >
> >In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
> >pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
> >
> >> Avatar's made enough money already.
> >
> >
> >
> >.
>

<.html

.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

I saw DWW when it was released but don't remember much other than loving it.

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 6:23 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

Wow that's weird, I was thinking about it last night and about what Michael said about it here and I though it's just the same story / message as Dances With Wolves too! Only Dances did it better and without all the CGI and explosions.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top

 

I personally loved the film, and look forward to seeing it gain, but I do agree with Neil that it was predictable. It was Dances With Wolves, but set in space. Still, despite that, I think it deserves the accolades it's getting, as it's quite an achievement.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@.. .> wrote:
>
> The movie wasn't aimed at Americans but rather the history of the whole human race. As far back as the Greeks, Romans and every empire and culture that has invated and taken land that wasn't theirs to begin with.
>
> Avatar is a much more broader statement than just American history. Avatar reflects the whole human race.
>
> Al 
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@.. .>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 1:49:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
>
>  
> I think it’s significant because Cameron is taking a real risk being a bit of a sneaky Michael Moore and telling Americans they are wrong for killing natives to take their spoils.
>  
> I thought it was really well done because it made me feel bad and responsible for the terrible losses the indigenous people have faced over the years.
>  
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:06 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
>  
>  
> Everyone to there own. I still maintain the story was more than just a little predictable for me and way too long winded and in parts quite boring even. I wouldn't want to watch it again and that sums it up for me.
> If it does win the best pic Oscar as is being widely predicted I think it will be a disgrace personally.
>  
> Neil T. Foster
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> >Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:39 PM
> >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> > 
> >Well I saw it just then and I have to strongly disagree with Neil.
> >I thought it was a great movie.
> >It was a little predictable but I really enjoyed it.
> >Michael
> >
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> >From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
> >Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 8:48 AM
> >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Avatar" puts science-fiction back on top
> > 
> >*** That's the truth... And I can't say I'd "never" see the film, but it's
> >not on my list either... And Oscars or any other things like that don't make
> >a film good, they always seem to go to the flavor of the month films
> >anyway... ***
> >
> >In a message dated 1/27/2010 6:18:38 AM Central Standard Time,
> >pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
> >
> >> Avatar's made enough money already.
> >
> >
> >
> >.
>

<.html

.html <.html

*** Some CGI works well, especially when the entire film is done with it...
Where it really starts to suck is when they try combining live action and
CGI... It worked good in KING KONG (2005), it wasn't so in your face
obvious... Where the sh*t hit the big fan was the STAR WARS prequels. I watched bits
of them when they were on TV recently and they looked absolutely horrible.
George Lucas can go on about how great it is because of all the new
environments he was able to create in the prequels, (and let's not forget the messed
up CGI characters like his revamped band in JEDI up to the infamous Jar Jar
Binks), but that doesn't make it right... The original trilogy looked
great, the prequels looked like a cartoon most all of the time... There was so
much CGI that they might as well have not even used "real" actors... I hate to
think that the real artistry/SFX, etc. involved in film-making doesn't die,
but at they rate they're going it might be... ***



In a message dated 1/28/2010 11:06:09 AM Central Standard Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:

> The CGI really wowed me. For once CGI captured creatures walking and it
> seemed very natural. Most CGI for me is very atrocious...really hate CGI
> hair and the worse than cartoon way the creatures move onscreen. Avatar is
> 10 steps beyond your average CGI.

</HTML>

.html <.html

*** More reason to leave well enough alone on those older films... ***



In a message dated 1/28/2010 10:12:34 PM Central Standard Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> Should see the re-worked Star Trek movies on Blu Ray!
>
>
> Parts of the screen are perfect and other parts are blurry – AWFUL!
>

</HTML>

<A
HREF=" http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aj99NX3LSAcTYsEJRWZ.h22evZx4;_ylc=X3oDMTY3aW85djUyBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzgEX3MDMjE0MjgxOTY1OQRhAzEwMDEyNyBtb3ZpZXMgYXZh
dGFyIGFkanVzdGVkIGJveCBvZmZpY2UgdARjcG9zAzIEZwNpZC0xOTQ5OQRpbnRsA3VzBGl0YwMw
BGx0eHQDJiMzOTtBdmF0YXImIzM5O3JlY29yZHF1ZXN0aW9uZWQEcGtndgMxNARwb3MDMARzZWMD
dGQtZmVhdARzbGsDdGh1bWJsaW5rBHNscG9zA0YEdGVzdAM3MDE-/SIG=127dnp2n7/**http%3A
//movies.yahoo.com/feature/forbes-avatar-box-office-king.htmlquot;>Click here:
Forbes.com: Is Avatar Really King Of The Box Office?</A> </HTML>

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:19 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

*** More reason to leave well enough alone on those older films... ***

In a message dated 1/28/2010 10:12:34 PM Central Standard Time,

mswhitty@... writes:

> Should see the re-worked Star Trek movies on Blu Ray!
>
>
> Parts of the screen are perfect and other parts are blurry – AWFUL!
>

</HTML>

.html <.html

.html   <.html

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

What if we don't do Pay Pal?

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:41 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Forbidden Zine

With only 2 orders we sre not going ahead with printing.

I cannot believe this.

We're talking $20 for a full colour 40 page mag with exclusives. They were costing me $25 and then another $15-$20 each to send and I don't mind losing that $1,000 to get them to fans.

However if we get no more orders it's $2,000 I'm pissing up against the wall and that's not acceptable.

I'll give it a few more days then I'm just going to refund the people who have paid.

If you want to save the publication, $20 into my PayPal ( mswhitty@...) account may do it.

MIchael