--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I have nothing exciting to add except what the HECK is chasing Dr. Zaius????
>
> XD
>
> Jess.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Neil Moxham <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Brian, this is the sum of my very - very - limited knowledge of POTA
> > merchandise: http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Merchandise
> >
> > The POTA wastebasket is often trotted out as an example of "bizarre"
> > merchandise (as in the 'Behind POTA' documentary), but it doesn't seem all
> > that strange to me. The weirdest stuff I know of is the AHI stuff you
> > mentioned - parachuting apes (parachuting from what exactly?), motorcycling
> > Zaius - and some of the unlicensed things that sometimes turn up.
> >
> > Neil M
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "BraiN H" <palitoy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I'm pretty much a long time lurker/possible first time poster.
> > >
> > > Currently I am writing an article about Apes Merchandise, it's basically
> > a fun "best/goofiest" piece and I'm trying to make sure I don't miss
> > anything really fun.
> > >
> > > If you have examples of weird Ape items you feel belong in this pile, I'd
> > really like to hear about them. The majority of the stuff I have for it
> > right now is produced by AHI.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Brian
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering about Rod Serling's name for the character that became Taylor. Rod Serling was a pretty smart guy, but he called his astronaut John Thomas. Was that his idea of a joke? Because John Thomas means (he! he! he! *giggle!*)... Well, it means...(ha! ha! ha!) *Whew!* I mean, it refers to (*snort!* he! he! he!). Never mind what it refers to. Let's just say it COULD refer to something dirty. I wonder if that was an inside joke or if Serling was clueless. Maybe the plan was just to refer to him as "Thomas" as they only referred to Taylor as "Taylor" (or Bright Eyes). As in the Edward G. makeup test. (he! heh!)
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't jump to that conclusion that fast. The APJAC trademark we
> see on all the licensed products are all commercial products sold to the
> general public. But items like these would not be created with an intent
> to be sold. So perhaps Jacob's APJAC licensing arm would not require the
> items to be stamped. Besides, any licensing like this would only be for
> a very limited quantity, so again why bother stamping them? One of the
> reasons the stamp is put on commercial products in the first place is
> for the rights holders to retain their rights. It's all legalese, and
> contract law for the lawyers to figure out, but it comes down to staking
> your claim for future enforcement of cases where the rights are not
> respected. But there would not be as much a need to stamp an item if it
> was not meant to be in the hands of the general public in the first place.
>
> Dario
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael <mswhitty@...>
> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:53 am
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Long live Zaius
>
> > I wonder if they are prototypes that never actually went into
> > development?
> > It's unlikely they are licensed if there's no APJAC refernce.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is not an Apjac copyright, but there is the balloon company
> > who made them, who was not the balloon company that I had bought
> > them from. They were licensed and I do not know why they were not
> > stamped. The same is true of the McDonald's heads and they were
> > made for the McDonald's company. The local expert to me (who is
> > also on Antiques Roadshow) said that they were most likely made for
> > the Great Escapes theme parks.
> > >
> > > The guy I bought them off thought that there was paperwork for
> > both types of heads, but most of that stuff was literally tossed
> > into 40 yard dumpsters. I had to tell him that the original screens
> > for printing the Marvel balloons would be worth something to
> > collectors.>
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is there a Copyright (APJAC PRODUCTIONS) stamp on it?
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > > I bought them all (but the one) from the guy who listed the
> > first one on eBay and after talking with him found out that they
> > were licensed. His grandfather was quite a fascinating man, and
> > owned a very large balloon company that operated in two countries.
> > I am really trying to see if anyone ever actually saw them at a
> > theme park, or remembers them from when they were a kid. They had
> > been in storage for the last 30+ years and were only discovered in
> > the attic because the factory was recently sold.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These are the Dr Zaius Helium Heads - they were made in the
> > 70s to fancy up the helium bottles that blow up balloons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not sure if this is an official release or not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The first time I saw one was about 6 months ago - it sold
> > on eBay for $100 from memory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd love to know if it's official or a "bootleg".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@>
> > wrote:> > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Apes Guys and Gals,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was wondering if I could lean on your collective powers
> > to see if any one might have some information on this strange Apes
> > item that I came across. I know the board doesn't seem to go into
> > as much with merchandising and pricing talk, but I am sure many of
> > you have personal collections of merchandising items of the Apes
> > nature and have been collecting for years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have attached a picture below and I would love to know
> > if you have every seen one before (in all your years of
> > collecting), or to know more about it than I have already found out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your help,
> > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/friendofziras/5704499285/in/photostream>
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@...> wrote:
>
> Dario,
>
> I think you are right about the stamping--and there was really no need to stamp them. I was told that there was likely less than 50 of these originally made and that number seemed high to a second expert I spoke with. The Tilly Balloon Company (the owner's grandson is who I bought it from) was an international company and did work with all major licenses of the day (Marvel, McDonald's ect). They were not the type of company to skirt the law, and they certainly could afford the licenses.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't jump to that conclusion that fast. The APJAC trademark we
> > see on all the licensed products are all commercial products sold to the
> > general public. But items like these would not be created with an intent
> > to be sold. So perhaps Jacob's APJAC licensing arm would not require the
> > items to be stamped. Besides, any licensing like this would only be for
> > a very limited quantity, so again why bother stamping them? One of the
> > reasons the stamp is put on commercial products in the first place is
> > for the rights holders to retain their rights. It's all legalese, and
> > contract law for the lawyers to figure out, but it comes down to staking
> > your claim for future enforcement of cases where the rights are not
> > respected. But there would not be as much a need to stamp an item if it
> > was not meant to be in the hands of the general public in the first place.
> >
> > Dario
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael <mswhitty@>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:53 am
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Long live Zaius
> >
> > > I wonder if they are prototypes that never actually went into
> > > development?
> > > It's unlikely they are licensed if there's no APJAC refernce.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is not an Apjac copyright, but there is the balloon company
> > > who made them, who was not the balloon company that I had bought
> > > them from. They were licensed and I do not know why they were not
> > > stamped. The same is true of the McDonald's heads and they were
> > > made for the McDonald's company. The local expert to me (who is
> > > also on Antiques Roadshow) said that they were most likely made for
> > > the Great Escapes theme parks.
> > > >
> > > > The guy I bought them off thought that there was paperwork for
> > > both types of heads, but most of that stuff was literally tossed
> > > into 40 yard dumpsters. I had to tell him that the original screens
> > > for printing the Marvel balloons would be worth something to
> > > collectors.>
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a Copyright (APJAC PRODUCTIONS) stamp on it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I bought them all (but the one) from the guy who listed the
> > > first one on eBay and after talking with him found out that they
> > > were licensed. His grandfather was quite a fascinating man, and
> > > owned a very large balloon company that operated in two countries.
> > > I am really trying to see if anyone ever actually saw them at a
> > > theme park, or remembers them from when they were a kid. They had
> > > been in storage for the last 30+ years and were only discovered in
> > > the attic because the factory was recently sold.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > These are the Dr Zaius Helium Heads - they were made in the
> > > 70s to fancy up the helium bottles that blow up balloons.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am not sure if this is an official release or not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The first time I saw one was about 6 months ago - it sold
> > > on eBay for $100 from memory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd love to know if it's official or a "bootleg".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@>
> > > wrote:> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello Apes Guys and Gals,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was wondering if I could lean on your collective powers
> > > to see if any one might have some information on this strange Apes
> > > item that I came across. I know the board doesn't seem to go into
> > > as much with merchandising and pricing talk, but I am sure many of
> > > you have personal collections of merchandising items of the Apes
> > > nature and have been collecting for years.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have attached a picture below and I would love to know
> > > if you have every seen one before (in all your years of
> > > collecting), or to know more about it than I have already found out.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for your help,
> > > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/friendofziras/5704499285/in/photostream>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

>
> Brian,
>
> There are some really funky items out there, but in my opinion some of the weirdest stuff has to be the bootlegs, such as the Mexican ones with Battlestar Galactica Cylon bodies, but Apes heads.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah - but is it Dr Zaius?
>
> If so, what makes it so?
>
> Is it advertised somewhere as "Dr Zaius from POTA"?
>
> I'll bet it isn't, and therefore a license would not be required.
>
> Is there any evidence that there IS a license for it?
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@> wrote:
> >
> > Dario,
> >
> > I think you are right about the stamping--and there was really no need to stamp them. I was told that there was likely less than 50 of these originally made and that number seemed high to a second expert I spoke with. The Tilly Balloon Company (the owner's grandson is who I bought it from) was an international company and did work with all major licenses of the day (Marvel, McDonald's ect). They were not the type of company to skirt the law, and they certainly could afford the licenses.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I wouldn't jump to that conclusion that fast. The APJAC trademark we
> > > see on all the licensed products are all commercial products sold to the
> > > general public. But items like these would not be created with an intent
> > > to be sold. So perhaps Jacob's APJAC licensing arm would not require the
> > > items to be stamped. Besides, any licensing like this would only be for
> > > a very limited quantity, so again why bother stamping them? One of the
> > > reasons the stamp is put on commercial products in the first place is
> > > for the rights holders to retain their rights. It's all legalese, and
> > > contract law for the lawyers to figure out, but it comes down to staking
> > > your claim for future enforcement of cases where the rights are not
> > > respected. But there would not be as much a need to stamp an item if it
> > > was not meant to be in the hands of the general public in the first place.
> > >
> > > Dario
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Michael <mswhitty@>
> > > Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:53 am
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Long live Zaius
> > >
> > > > I wonder if they are prototypes that never actually went into
> > > > development?
> > > > It's unlikely they are licensed if there's no APJAC refernce.
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There is not an Apjac copyright, but there is the balloon company
> > > > who made them, who was not the balloon company that I had bought
> > > > them from. They were licensed and I do not know why they were not
> > > > stamped. The same is true of the McDonald's heads and they were
> > > > made for the McDonald's company. The local expert to me (who is
> > > > also on Antiques Roadshow) said that they were most likely made for
> > > > the Great Escapes theme parks.
> > > > >
> > > > > The guy I bought them off thought that there was paperwork for
> > > > both types of heads, but most of that stuff was literally tossed
> > > > into 40 yard dumpsters. I had to tell him that the original screens
> > > > for printing the Marvel balloons would be worth something to
> > > > collectors.>
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a Copyright (APJAC PRODUCTIONS) stamp on it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I bought them all (but the one) from the guy who listed the
> > > > first one on eBay and after talking with him found out that they
> > > > were licensed. His grandfather was quite a fascinating man, and
> > > > owned a very large balloon company that operated in two countries.
> > > > I am really trying to see if anyone ever actually saw them at a
> > > > theme park, or remembers them from when they were a kid. They had
> > > > been in storage for the last 30+ years and were only discovered in
> > > > the attic because the factory was recently sold.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > These are the Dr Zaius Helium Heads - they were made in the
> > > > 70s to fancy up the helium bottles that blow up balloons.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am not sure if this is an official release or not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The first time I saw one was about 6 months ago - it sold
> > > > on eBay for $100 from memory.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd love to know if it's official or a "bootleg".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "friend_of_ziras" <fscstu@>
> > > > wrote:> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello Apes Guys and Gals,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I was wondering if I could lean on your collective powers
> > > > to see if any one might have some information on this strange Apes
> > > > item that I came across. I know the board doesn't seem to go into
> > > > as much with merchandising and pricing talk, but I am sure many of
> > > > you have personal collections of merchandising items of the Apes
> > > > nature and have been collecting for years.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have attached a picture below and I would love to know
> > > > if you have every seen one before (in all your years of
> > > > collecting), or to know more about it than I have already found out.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help,
> > > > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/friendofziras/5704499285/in/photostream>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

POTA Stuff 5 118.jpg
POTA Stuff 5 111.jpg

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:41 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] German "Rise" trailer

> Yeah! Talk German to me baby. Makes it sound even more serious.
>
> http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/05/17/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-
> apes-german-trailer/

45BNmarch.jpeg

> Just wondering if anyone knew about this before I hand it off to a friend
> who could digitize it for me....wondering if it was posted somewhere
> already.....
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the German "Rise" poster. Not much difference but of note to the completists.
> I saw the "Rise" poster at a theater and it looked pretty good. The ape behind the words looked lenticular, kinda 3D, even though the movie won't be in 3D.
>
> http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/05/22/new-german-poster-for-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/
>

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@... > wrote:

Hi, folks.

I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo, and thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went live.

http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-booming-start/

Enjoy!
Rich

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
>
> Jess.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi, folks.
> >
> > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo, and
> > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went live.
> >
> >
> > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-booming-start/
> >
> > Enjoy!
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
> I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> rassmguy
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't want
> to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is very
> talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much as I'd
> like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> negatives.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , jessica
> rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, folks.
> > >
> > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo,
> and
> > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> live.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> ng-start/
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Rich you'd say that anyway! :-)
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> rassmguy
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 8:08 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
>
>
>
>
>
> The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to be
> brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female
> chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Sally &
> Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> Of
> > rassmguy
> > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't
> want
> > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is
> very
> > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much as
> I'd
> > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > negatives.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , jessica
> > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > >
> > > Jess.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, folks.
> > > >
> > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo,
> > and
> > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > live.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > ng-start/
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > > Rich
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
Date: Monday, May 23, 2011 12:03 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Conspirace set for July 25th!

> or so they're saying anyway.....!
>
>
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32446
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if this will be available via Diamond distributing as a
> normal comic and that can be ordered like a comic in comic shops? I hope so.
>
> Dario

I'm assuming yes Dario (though not confirmed by any one yet)

There are stories that Archaia have switched distributors...such as this one

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2011/05/23/archaia-switches-to-pgw-publishes-apes/

But I think it means Diamond BOOK distributors, supplier to the book trade not Diamond COMIC distributors supplier to the comic trade

(Same owners different companies)

I'd find it odd if Diamond didn't supply comic shops as most of the illustrators are connected to the industry so the lions share of sales is likely to come from the industry.

Best,Graham.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

*** I don't know if that's supposed to be Zaius? May be a different Orangutan they came up with for this story...

Seeing this artwork close-up doesn't giving me a good feeling about CONSPIRACY...
Clothed humans armed with ape submachine guns? That woman in the skin tight bodysuit? The ape behind her with the teeth that make him look more like a vampire than an ape and the barbed wire "knuckles" that Gorilla is holding aren't too impressive either... I wouldn't be surprised if there's one of those steroid induced Gorillas in there somewhere...

I never had super high hopes for CONSPIRACY, but the art gave some thoughts that it might be good but if half of this artwork is indicative of what's in store my expectations have dropped a lot... The preview artwork in the fanzines was good but this picture, while well drawn, has me thinking that Gaska and the others went to the ADVENTURE comics school of writing APES...

I couldn't write a story, so I give them credit for that, but why is it that all these people that say they are these huge APES fans take the material and F it up so much of the time... I hope CONSPIRACY doesn't turn out bad, but it sure looks like it's leaning that way... ***

In a message dated 5/24/2011 5:32:33 AM Central Daylight Time, smwhitty@... writes:

Is it my eyes or is Dr Z in GREEN?!?!?!?!?

> Hmmmm!! A lot of fodder to think about, Cougar!!! Ah well...one can
> only hope. I was just disappointed with the artwork of BOOM! so I was hoping
> that this BLAM! would be better....
>
> :(
>
> sigh.
>
> Jess.
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to be brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > rassmguy
> > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't want
> > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is very
> > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much as I'd
> > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > negatives.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , jessica
> > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > >
> > > Jess.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, folks.
> > > >
> > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo,
> > and
> > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > live.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > ng-start/
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > > Rich
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

That was probably my favorite moment in the comic when suddenly all those gorilla soldiers were there silently. I think part of the impact was because it didn't look like POTA until then. We'll see how the creators justify their choices. We're playing with a lot of time here and different clothing styles might go in and out of style along with the more traditional garb.

One could also consider the multiple covers as giving the buyer a choice of which one they like best. If completists want to buy every one that's on them. So far the covers seem to be a choice between "traditional" (usually a menacing gorilla) and more off the wall.

From: munkeyman63au

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:02 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1

It really surprises me that a die hard Apes fan would like this comic very much. I know I don't, I want to but I just can't.
For me there are just too many problems with it. I'm very impressed with Carlos Magno's skill and talent as an artist but can not stand the look he has given the Apes and the city for the same reasons already mentioned by the majority of fans on these sites.
A couple of things really did bug me, one being the need to give the Lawgiver and other apes (and a few humans) skin tight pants with bulging 'superhero' muscles. Just looks stupid to me.
Then there are the Apes wearing clothes that look like they were inspired by the Burton movie or should be in some gothic horror vampire tale but then we suddenly have a full page with gorillas wearing uniforms that look like the 'classic POTA' gorilla gear. Very strange as they look totally out of place compared to the rest of the apes. There are other problems but they have already been mentioned by others, especially the apes with human noses. The one on the second page reminds me of Moon Boy from the Jack Kirby comic Devil Dinosaur.
And to answer my own question from earlier the assassin must be a female, just have a look at the cover for the reprint of the first issue, it's obviously a woman, or a very strangely shaped bloke!
I'm not sure about the story yet as we obviously don't know where it's headed so we can't really draw any conclusions from what is basically just a setting up of the major characters etc, so I'll give that time and see what happens with it.
One more thing that gets me is the way they do about 50 million alternate covers just to sell more of the same comic these days, how typical of this greedy world we live in.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to be brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > rassmguy
> > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't want
> > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is very
> > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much as I'd
> > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > negatives.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto: PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , jessica
> > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > >
> > > Jess.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, folks.
> > > >
> > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo,
> > and
> > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > live.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > ng-start/
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > > Rich
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> It really surprises me that a die hard Apes fan would like this comic very much. I know I don't, I want to but I just can't.
> For me there are just too many problems with it. I'm very impressed with Carlos Magno's skill and talent as an artist but can not stand the look he has given the Apes and the city for the same reasons already mentioned by the majority of fans on these sites.
> A couple of things really did bug me, one being the need to give the Lawgiver and other apes (and a few humans) skin tight pants with bulging 'superhero' muscles. Just looks stupid to me.
> Then there are the Apes wearing clothes that look like they were inspired by the Burton movie or should be in some gothic horror vampire tale but then we suddenly have a full page with gorillas wearing uniforms that look like the 'classic POTA' gorilla gear. Very strange as they look totally out of place compared to the rest of the apes. There are other problems but they have already been mentioned by others, especially the apes with human noses. The one on the second page reminds me of Moon Boy from the Jack Kirby comic Devil Dinosaur.
> And to answer my own question from earlier the assassin must be a female, just have a look at the cover for the reprint of the first issue, it's obviously a woman, or a very strangely shaped bloke!
> I'm not sure about the story yet as we obviously don't know where it's headed so we can't really draw any conclusions from what is basically just a setting up of the major characters etc, so I'll give that time and see what happens with it.
> One more thing that gets me is the way they do about 50 million alternate covers just to sell more of the same comic these days, how typical of this greedy world we live in.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to be brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > > rassmguy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't want
> > > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is very
> > > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much as I'd
> > > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > > negatives.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , jessica
> > > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > > >
> > > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, folks.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo,
> > > and
> > > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > > live.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > > ng-start/
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > Rich
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I am so offended by anything that has to do with Tim Burton! If there's any
> hint of his crap, I don't want to be involved.
>
> Jess.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > That was probably my favorite moment in the comic when suddenly all those
> > gorilla soldiers were there silently. I think part of the impact was because
> > it didn't look like POTA until then. We'll see how the creators justify
> > their choices. We're playing with a lot of time here and different clothing
> > styles might go in and out of style along with the more traditional garb.
> > One could also consider the multiple covers as giving the buyer a choice
> > of which one they like best. If completists want to buy every one that's on
> > them. So far the covers seem to be a choice between "traditional" (usually a
> > menacing gorilla) and more off the wall.
> >
> > *From:* munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:02 PM
> > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> >
> >
> >
> > It really surprises me that a die hard Apes fan would like this comic very
> > much. I know I don't, I want to but I just can't.
> > For me there are just too many problems with it. I'm very impressed with
> > Carlos Magno's skill and talent as an artist but can not stand the look he
> > has given the Apes and the city for the same reasons already mentioned by
> > the majority of fans on these sites.
> > A couple of things really did bug me, one being the need to give the
> > Lawgiver and other apes (and a few humans) skin tight pants with bulging
> > 'superhero' muscles. Just looks stupid to me.
> > Then there are the Apes wearing clothes that look like they were inspired
> > by the Burton movie or should be in some gothic horror vampire tale but then
> > we suddenly have a full page with gorillas wearing uniforms that look like
> > the 'classic POTA' gorilla gear. Very strange as they look totally out of
> > place compared to the rest of the apes. There are other problems but they
> > have already been mentioned by others, especially the apes with human noses.
> > The one on the second page reminds me of Moon Boy from the Jack Kirby comic
> > Devil Dinosaur.
> > And to answer my own question from earlier the assassin must be a female,
> > just have a look at the cover for the reprint of the first issue, it's
> > obviously a woman, or a very strangely shaped bloke!
> > I'm not sure about the story yet as we obviously don't know where it's
> > headed so we can't really draw any conclusions from what is basically just a
> > setting up of the major characters etc, so I'll give that time and see what
> > happens with it.
> > One more thing that gets me is the way they do about 50 million alternate
> > covers just to sell more of the same comic these days, how typical of this
> > greedy world we live in.
> >
> > Neil T.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to
> > be brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female
> > chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > > > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > rassmguy
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't
> > want
> > > > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is
> > very
> > > > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much
> > as I'd
> > > > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > > > negatives.
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > jessica
> > > > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > > > >
> > > > > Jess.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, folks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture
> > Zoo,
> > > > and
> > > > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > > > live.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > > > ng-start/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > > Rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:30 PM, rassmguy <handleyr@... > wrote:

To clarify, Jess: The comic has no connection to Burton's POTA. It's just that, unfortunately, the artist drew the female chimps more like Ari than Zira.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I am so offended by anything that has to do with Tim Burton! If there's any
> hint of his crap, I don't want to be involved.
>
> Jess.
>

> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > That was probably my favorite moment in the comic when suddenly all those
> > gorilla soldiers were there silently. I think part of the impact was because
> > it didn't look like POTA until then. We'll see how the creators justify
> > their choices. We're playing with a lot of time here and different clothing
> > styles might go in and out of style along with the more traditional garb.
> > One could also consider the multiple covers as giving the buyer a choice
> > of which one they like best. If completists want to buy every one that's on
> > them. So far the covers seem to be a choice between "traditional" (usually a
> > menacing gorilla) and more off the wall.
> >

> > *From:* munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:02 PM

> > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> >
> >
> >
> > It really surprises me that a die hard Apes fan would like this comic very
> > much. I know I don't, I want to but I just can't.
> > For me there are just too many problems with it. I'm very impressed with
> > Carlos Magno's skill and talent as an artist but can not stand the look he
> > has given the Apes and the city for the same reasons already mentioned by
> > the majority of fans on these sites.
> > A couple of things really did bug me, one being the need to give the
> > Lawgiver and other apes (and a few humans) skin tight pants with bulging
> > 'superhero' muscles. Just looks stupid to me.
> > Then there are the Apes wearing clothes that look like they were inspired
> > by the Burton movie or should be in some gothic horror vampire tale but then
> > we suddenly have a full page with gorillas wearing uniforms that look like
> > the 'classic POTA' gorilla gear. Very strange as they look totally out of
> > place compared to the rest of the apes. There are other problems but they
> > have already been mentioned by others, especially the apes with human noses.
> > The one on the second page reminds me of Moon Boy from the Jack Kirby comic
> > Devil Dinosaur.
> > And to answer my own question from earlier the assassin must be a female,
> > just have a look at the cover for the reprint of the first issue, it's
> > obviously a woman, or a very strangely shaped bloke!
> > I'm not sure about the story yet as we obviously don't know where it's
> > headed so we can't really draw any conclusions from what is basically just a
> > setting up of the major characters etc, so I'll give that time and see what
> > happens with it.
> > One more thing that gets me is the way they do about 50 million alternate
> > covers just to sell more of the same comic these days, how typical of this
> > greedy world we live in.
> >
> > Neil T.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to
> > be brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female
> > chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > > > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > rassmguy
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't
> > want
> > > > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is
> > very
> > > > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much
> > as I'd
> > > > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > > > negatives.
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > jessica
> > > > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > > > >
> > > > > Jess.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, folks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture
> > Zoo,
> > > > and
> > > > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > > > live.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > > > ng-start/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > > Rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> To clarify, Jess: The comic has no connection to Burton's POTA. It's just that, unfortunately, the artist drew the female chimps more like Ari than Zira.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > I am so offended by anything that has to do with Tim Burton! If there's any
> > hint of his crap, I don't want to be involved.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > That was probably my favorite moment in the comic when suddenly all those
> > > gorilla soldiers were there silently. I think part of the impact was because
> > > it didn't look like POTA until then. We'll see how the creators justify
> > > their choices. We're playing with a lot of time here and different clothing
> > > styles might go in and out of style along with the more traditional garb.
> > > One could also consider the multiple covers as giving the buyer a choice
> > > of which one they like best. If completists want to buy every one that's on
> > > them. So far the covers seem to be a choice between "traditional" (usually a
> > > menacing gorilla) and more off the wall.
> > >
> > > *From:* munkeyman63au <ntfoster@>
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:02 PM
> > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Subject:* [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It really surprises me that a die hard Apes fan would like this comic very
> > > much. I know I don't, I want to but I just can't.
> > > For me there are just too many problems with it. I'm very impressed with
> > > Carlos Magno's skill and talent as an artist but can not stand the look he
> > > has given the Apes and the city for the same reasons already mentioned by
> > > the majority of fans on these sites.
> > > A couple of things really did bug me, one being the need to give the
> > > Lawgiver and other apes (and a few humans) skin tight pants with bulging
> > > 'superhero' muscles. Just looks stupid to me.
> > > Then there are the Apes wearing clothes that look like they were inspired
> > > by the Burton movie or should be in some gothic horror vampire tale but then
> > > we suddenly have a full page with gorillas wearing uniforms that look like
> > > the 'classic POTA' gorilla gear. Very strange as they look totally out of
> > > place compared to the rest of the apes. There are other problems but they
> > > have already been mentioned by others, especially the apes with human noses.
> > > The one on the second page reminds me of Moon Boy from the Jack Kirby comic
> > > Devil Dinosaur.
> > > And to answer my own question from earlier the assassin must be a female,
> > > just have a look at the cover for the reprint of the first issue, it's
> > > obviously a woman, or a very strangely shaped bloke!
> > > I'm not sure about the story yet as we obviously don't know where it's
> > > headed so we can't really draw any conclusions from what is basically just a
> > > setting up of the major characters etc, so I'll give that time and see what
> > > happens with it.
> > > One more thing that gets me is the way they do about 50 million alternate
> > > covers just to sell more of the same comic these days, how typical of this
> > > greedy world we live in.
> > >
> > > Neil T.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to
> > > be brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female
> > > chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > > > > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > > rassmguy
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't
> > > want
> > > > > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is
> > > very
> > > > > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much
> > > as I'd
> > > > > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > > > > negatives.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > jessica
> > > > > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jess.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, folks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture
> > > Zoo,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > > > > live.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > > > > ng-start/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > > > Rich
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> No sense of wonder. Everything is a joke to Burton. Burton loves cheesyness, which works for the umpteenth version of "Frankenstein" but doesn't work when people are supposed to believe a sci-fi tale. Bad script. Aimless lead actor. Bad choice to set it on another planet (yeah, yeah, so was the book but post 1968 it hurts the believability). Bad female chimp makeup. Other than that, everything was pretty good.
>
>
> From: chimel23@...
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:22 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Burton
>
>
>
>
> ALthough I've been following things here and another place for a bit, I still haven't completely come to understand...what is it that makes the Burton movie so bad?
>
> Mel
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That was probably my favorite moment in the comic when suddenly all those gorilla soldiers were there silently. I think part of the impact was because it didn't look like POTA until then. We'll see how the creators justify their choices. We're playing with a lot of time here and different clothing styles might go in and out of style along with the more traditional garb.
> One could also consider the multiple covers as giving the buyer a choice of which one they like best. If completists want to buy every one that's on them. So far the covers seem to be a choice between "traditional" (usually a menacing gorilla) and more off the wall.
>
>
> From: munkeyman63au
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:02 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
>
>
>
> It really surprises me that a die hard Apes fan would like this comic very much. I know I don't, I want to but I just can't.
> For me there are just too many problems with it. I'm very impressed with Carlos Magno's skill and talent as an artist but can not stand the look he has given the Apes and the city for the same reasons already mentioned by the majority of fans on these sites.
> A couple of things really did bug me, one being the need to give the Lawgiver and other apes (and a few humans) skin tight pants with bulging 'superhero' muscles. Just looks stupid to me.
> Then there are the Apes wearing clothes that look like they were inspired by the Burton movie or should be in some gothic horror vampire tale but then we suddenly have a full page with gorillas wearing uniforms that look like the 'classic POTA' gorilla gear. Very strange as they look totally out of place compared to the rest of the apes. There are other problems but they have already been mentioned by others, especially the apes with human noses. The one on the second page reminds me of Moon Boy from the Jack Kirby comic Devil Dinosaur.
> And to answer my own question from earlier the assassin must be a female, just have a look at the cover for the reprint of the first issue, it's obviously a woman, or a very strangely shaped bloke!
> I'm not sure about the story yet as we obviously don't know where it's headed so we can't really draw any conclusions from what is basically just a setting up of the major characters etc, so I'll give that time and see what happens with it.
> One more thing that gets me is the way they do about 50 million alternate covers just to sell more of the same comic these days, how typical of this greedy world we live in.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > The thing is, I really enjoyed the issue, so there wasn't much for me to be brutal about. The only true negative, for me, was the look of the female chimps, which I was pretty direct about.
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > > I'd prefer brutal honesty any day!
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > > rassmguy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 6:07 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jess! :) I genuinely enjoyed this first issue, and thus didn't want
> > > to label the negative comments as "bad," since I do think the artist is very
> > > talented, even if his work didn't really fit the look of POTA as much as I'd
> > > like it to. So "The Not Quite as Good" seemed a better subtitle for the
> > > negatives.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , jessica
> > > rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rich, great review as always, particularly "the not quite as good."
> > > >
> > > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, folks.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo,
> > > and
> > > > > thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went
> > > live.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-boomi
> > > ng-start/
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > Rich
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>