Having Neil as a contributing artist is a definite plus for me. I'm
proud to say that I've already got a few of his pieces framed and on my
walls.

He's already a professional in my books!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Who will carry CONSPIRACY? - APE FANS UNITE!

> Makes sense. The only thing I don't understand is why Neil isn't
> a professional. I've seen a lot of "professional" garbage so
> "professional" doesn't mean much to me. I'd rather go to a "fan"'s
> website done with love (like Al's) than the "professional" vanilla
> one. The only difference is a paycheck (though a big difference).
>
>
> From: Blam
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:54 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Who will carry CONSPIRACY? - APE FANS UNITE!
>
>
>
> BTW- even the "newcomers" that are in the first book are published
> professionals - Dan Dussault is the artist of my grpaahic novel
> series, Critical Millennium, and Erik Gist has done a ton of
> Forgotten Realms Novel covers.
>
> I enjoy Neil's art and would love to have him for consideration for
> the second book, but if the publisher (ARCHAIA) or FOX nix it,
> please don't hate me or the project!
>
> What about it Neil, you up to the challenge?
> Drew G.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/17/2011 8:03:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > smwhitty@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > Iâ?Tm fairly sure Neil would (as is typical) not even ask for
> payment but
> > > surely it would not hurt for Drew to ask Neil to come up with
> something then
> > > if itâ?Ts not good enough, just not use it?
> >
> > *** This sounds like a fair offer... Nothing would be lost if
> they'd choose
> > not to use it but if used it may get more work tossed Foster's
> way... ***
> >
> >
> > >
> > > So��I ask the Ape Fans on this group to unite and please
> respond in
> > > numbers if you want to see an illustration by Neil in the
> second book.
> >
> > *** I'd like to see something of his in print... The little "pin-
> ups" in
> > REVOLUTION were cool, but too small... The LAWGIVER image in the
> FORBIDDEN
> > ZINE was cool too and I'd guess something like that would work in
> the second
> > novel (or one of the others down the line)... BTW: Did Neil do
> the coloring of
> > his stuff in the FZ? ***</HTML>
> >
>
>
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Each novel can be enjoyed on it's own - in fact, each story I've done can be enjoyed on it's own even if this is your first introduction to planet of the apes.

This is something I am pretty adamant about in story crafting- It really bothers me that we have things like an 'ultimate' universe - Where the company throws everything out and reinvent it because they want to pull in new readers. They started this because writers say that there is too much continuity and it bogs them down. Then, you see them creating new things like say, " an alien race that the X-men in this universe have known for years but you never saw them before. The back story is important that they were friends before this." Well, why not just use the SHi'ar? New readers will simply accept that the X-men will have known these guys for a while, and fans will be happy to see something that THEY know the back story to. A diverse universe with a rich tapestry to draw upon is a great thing to start with.

So it's important to me that long time fans and new ones are entertained as well. If you read all six, you will become aware of a bigger picture I have created for you - but each one has an arc for the main characters of that book that completes and then introduces the next "level", hooking you for the next book.

Hope that made sense, I am getting down from my soapbox now!
Drew G.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> I figured you (understandably) couldn't say too much, but another question
> regarding your stories: Will they all have an "end" to them or will they be
> left open-ended so the reader would have to read the next book (or the
> previous one) to get the complete jist of what's going on? In other words will
> each book be a stand-alone novel that can be seen as a part of a larger story
> arc (or read on it's own not feeling like a cliffhanger)?
>
>
> In a message dated 6/19/2011 2:57:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
> blamventurer@... writes:
>
>
> > It can be thought of as two trilogies:
> >
> > TRILOGY ONE: The Origin Arc
> > BOOK 1 - during the original film to between it and beneath
> > BOOK 2 - between the original and beneath to during beneath
> > BOOK 3 - Between beneath and escape
> >
> > TRILOGY TWO: The Altered Timeline Arc
> > BOOK 4 - dealing with the television series, during conquest, and between
> > conquest and battle (revolution times).
> > BOOK 5 - dealing with the animated series, during conquest, and between
> > conquest and battle (revolution times).
> > BOOK 6 - dealing with post battle, Caesar's end times.
> >
> > Can not and will not elaborate...
> > Drew G.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm sure you don't want to give too much away (and maybe you can't
> > anyway)
> > > but if all six of them are completed, will they all take place on the
> > future
> > > Earth of PLANET/BENEATH or will the other novels do some "time travel"
> > and
> > > take place in other times (like between ECAPE and CONQUEST, or CONQUEST
> > and
> > > BATTLE, etc.)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/17/2011 6:17:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > > blamventurer@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > In total, I have a six novel arc planned, as of now only the first two
> > > > books are confirmed.
> > > > Drew G.
> >
>
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Hollywood Treasures on Syfy on wednesday will feature Debbie Reynolds collection which will be up for auction soon. She will be selling Taylors "robe", Brent's loincloth, Nova's Beneath dress, Stewart's spacesuit, and some background costumes! Full color catalog can be downloaded here: http://www.profilesinhistory.com/debbie-reynolds-auction/debbie-reynolds-the-auction

Tim

Sent from my iPhone

Wasn't most of this stuff for sale about five years ago, or was that all
different APES wardrobe?



In a message dated 6/22/2011 12:42:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
apefan23@... writes:

> Hollywood Treasures on Syfy on wednesday will feature Debbie Reynolds
> collection which will be up for auction soon. She will be selling Taylors
> "robe", Brent's loincloth, Nova's Beneath dress, Stewart's spacesuit, and some
> background costumes!

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Not sure if this has been seen or not but thought you all might like a look...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/22/best-newest-freshest-trailer-for-rise-of-the-apes/

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Where would she have gotten all that stuff? Did she/does she even like
APES? Any idea(s) Veetus?

> Debbie Reynolds did have a smaller auction a few years ago.

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I thought Western Outfitters technically owned all that stuff (not Heston
or whoever else)?



In a message dated 6/22/2011 3:29:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> She was just the go to gal back before people collected this stuff.
> "I just did a movie called "Planet of the Apes". Do you want this crap,
> Debbie?"
> "Sure, why not? Thank you, Charlton".
> "Call me Chuck".
>

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Wow. I'm really starting to like what I'm seeing for this & my 11yr old is loving it too!!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> Not sure if this has been seen or not but thought you all might like a
> look...
>
> http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/22/best-newest-freshest-trailer-for-\
> rise-of-the-apes/
> <http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/22/best-newest-freshest-trailer-for\
> -rise-of-the-apes/>
>
> Best,G
>

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Yeah, I thought of Julius in Planet when I saw that bit as well.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> There's the human hosing down Caesar in his cage too!
>
>
>
> I hope there will be not too many more than what we have seen in the
> trailers!
>
> Michael

*** I agree 100% and I never liked the idea of all the "cute references" to
the originals... We know what the originals are and what they contained, we
don't need to be clubbed over the head with them in a new film... One or
two is one thing, but the numerous amount I'm hearing about for this new film
is overkill... ***




In a message dated 6/22/2011 7:23:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:

> All these little references are starting to get a little too cute for my
> liking, I hope they aren't going to ruin what looks to be a top notch film.

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I don't mind all the nods at all, as long as it doesn't interfere with
the movie itself. It's almost funny how a lot, if not all, of those
references will be completely lost on the unknowing audience while we
pick up on the inferences. I liked the "Jacobs" one the most.

I'm pretty sure that I'll be taking the day off to see it on the first
day now. I too think that these trailers are getting better and better.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil T. Foster" <ntfoster@...>
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:23 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: new trailer in HD

> Looks to be the same trailer as the UK version (except for the
> language of
> course!):
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/video/showbiz/film-
> trailers/3651852/Rise-Of-The-Planet-Of-The-Apes-Ex.htmlbr> >
> Looks great but one thing that is starting to bug me a little bit
> is all the
> references to 'classic Apes' like the names of characters, Caesar
> writing'JACOBS' etc. And now I notice in this UK trailer Caesar
> just happens to be
> playing with/making a model of the Statue of Liberty:
>
>
>
> All these little references are starting to get a little too cute
> for my
> liking, I hope they aren't going to ruin what looks to be a top
> notch film.
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
> >
> > Al found a Russian version of the new trailer for those who are
> "rushin'" to see it in HD.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKhDs2Ubwz8
>
>

'Cornelia' is the one that makes me cringe. That's awfully contrived.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> I don't mind all the nods at all, as long as it doesn't interfere with
> the movie itself. It's almost funny how a lot, if not all, of those
> references will be completely lost on the unknowing audience while we
> pick up on the inferences. I liked the "Jacobs" one the most.
>
> I'm pretty sure that I'll be taking the day off to see it on the first
> day now. I too think that these trailers are getting better and better.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil T. Foster" <ntfoster@...>
> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:23 pm
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: new trailer in HD
>
> > Looks to be the same trailer as the UK version (except for the
> > language of
> > course!):
> > http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/video/showbiz/film-
> > trailers/3651852/Rise-Of-The-Planet-Of-The-Apes-Ex.htmlbr> > >
> > Looks great but one thing that is starting to bug me a little bit
> > is all the
> > references to 'classic Apes' like the names of characters, Caesar
> > writing'JACOBS' etc. And now I notice in this UK trailer Caesar
> > just happens to be
> > playing with/making a model of the Statue of Liberty:
> >
> >
> >
> > All these little references are starting to get a little too cute
> > for my
> > liking, I hope they aren't going to ruin what looks to be a top
> > notch film.
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Al found a Russian version of the new trailer for those who are
> > "rushin'" to see it in HD.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKhDs2Ubwz8
> >
> >
>

It also says in the catalogue intro that MGM offloaded their wardrobe dept to her in 1970, and that she "knew people" at Fox who gave her first option on their stuff since then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> SHe has been a life long collector of movie memorabilia espeially costumes whether she bought everything or they were given to her.....I'm sure it is a major job and and costly to keep them all preserved and safe.....
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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"Where the fuck is Australia?!?!?!?"

Right here:
http://www.postcardz.com.au/maps/images/location-map-of-australia.jpg

But I thought you knew that?

Sorry I couldn't resist. But to answer your question, Fox decided that
since only Neil and yourself constitute the "POTA Down Under" fan base,
they've opted to skip you guys. Sorry mates!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Sally & Michael <smwhitty@...>
Date: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:33 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Rise" around the world

> Where the fuck is Australia?!?!?!?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Jeff K.
> Sent: Friday, 24 June 2011 4:11 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise" around the world
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's the list of openings for "Rise of the POTA". Mostly it'll
> open the
> first half of August. Italy gets it Sept. 23rd and Japan Oct. 7th.
>
>
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1318514/releaseinfo
>
>
>
>

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Dario Sciola <darios@... > wrote:

"Where the fuck is Australia?!?!?!?"

Right here:
http://www.postcardz.com.au/maps/images/location-map-of-australia.jpg

But I thought you knew that?

Sorry I couldn't resist. But to answer your question, Fox decided that
since only Neil and yourself constitute the "POTA Down Under" fan base,
they've opted to skip you guys. Sorry mates!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Sally & Michael <smwhitty@...>
Date: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:33 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Rise" around the world

> Where the fuck is Australia?!?!?!?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Jeff K.
> Sent: Friday, 24 June 2011 4:11 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise" around the world
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's the list of openings for "Rise of the POTA". Mostly it'll
> open the
> first half of August. Italy gets it Sept. 23rd and Japan Oct. 7th.
>
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> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1318514/releaseinfo
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In the trailer, Caesar is writing JACOBS on a board. I don't know what the name refers to in the movie, but I know that it is a tribute to Arthur P. Jacobs, the man who was responsible for bringing the first POTA to the screen. Without him, POTA would be nothing but a minor novel.

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There's nothing wrong with giving Arthur his due, but it's not like he's
never been given credit for all he did... His story of bringing APES to the
big screen is a major part of books like "POTA Revisited" and the
"BEHIND/POTA" documentary...




In a message dated 6/24/2011 9:36:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> But it's just an excuse to give Arthur Jacobs his due and I think it's
> cool.
>
>
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Is this Chambers interview available anywhere? "Ape Chronicles" maybe?



In a message dated 6/27/2011 6:27:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> When I interviewed John he said his work for his government was what he
> was most proud of.

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Hey, Drew Gaska, author of CONSPIRACY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES here.

Anyone from the NY area?

Film Forum West Houston St. in NYC's Greenwich Village with be showing the Original Planet of the Apes for one ween starting tomorrow, Fri. July 8th until Thursday July 14th in a glorious new 35 MM print!

I was thinking of putting a group together, thought we might all go to dinner, see the movie, I could show you all art from the book, and talk about the story. This is a 'everyone-pays-their-own-way' thing, just a social gathering of apes fans who might want to get a chance to talk to the author.

Haven't set the date yet, just putting out feelers now.

Let me know!

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That second article has a lot of factual errors in it.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> With the original POTA playing in New York, two NY publications look back at it.
>
> "The Wall Street Journal" interviews Richard Zanuck from the set of Tim Burton's "Dark Shadows":
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303544604576431904116271200.html"
>
> And here's why POTA outlived it's creators:
>
> http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/07/2586702/why-planet-apes-culture-outlives-humans-who-created-it
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I thought they said they'd have no involvement with Rise? They're certainly full of surprises!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.apescomics.com/prequel/page-01.html"
>

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