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Group: potadg	Message: 60132	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Ape Central

Group: potadg	Message: 60133	From: Roy	Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Ape Central

Group: potadg	Message: 60134	From: Roy	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the dar

Group: potadg	Message: 60135	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"

Group: potadg	Message: 60136	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60137	From: j.gicquel@btinternet.com	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

Group: potadg	Message: 60138	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60139	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

Group: potadg	Message: 60140	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: TAKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSPIRACY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ...

Group: potadg	Message: 60141	From: Roy	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

Group: potadg	Message: 60142	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

Group: potadg	Message: 60143	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60144	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60145	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60146	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60147	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60148	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60149	From: Roy	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

Group: potadg	Message: 60150	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< "Rise" stuff

Group: potadg	Message: 60151	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60152	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60153	From: Roy	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? Pets?

Group: potadg	Message: 60154	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna"

Group: potadg	Message: 60155	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

Group: potadg	Message: 60156	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: TAKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSPIRACY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ...

Group: potadg	Message: 60157	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60158	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna"

Group: potadg	Message: 60159	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

Group: potadg	Message: 60160	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Anniversary Reminder

Group: potadg	Message: 60161	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60162	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?

Group: potadg	Message: 60163	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60164	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60165	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60166	From: Roy	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60167	From: Roy	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced or pr

Group: potadg	Message: 60168	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60169	From: j.gicquel@btinternet.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

Group: potadg	Message: 60170	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60171	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60172	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60173	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

Group: potadg	Message: 60174	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"

Group: potadg	Message: 60175	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"

Group: potadg	Message: 60176	From: Blam	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: TAKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSPIRACY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ...

Group: potadg	Message: 60177	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60178	From: Dario	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60179	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Apes "rise" past $ 200 million worldwide

Group: potadg	Message: 60180	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60181	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will this apes group appreciate music?

Group: potadg	Message: 60182	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60183	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60184	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60185	From: knightangel314	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

Group: potadg	Message: 60186	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: new movies crushed under "Rise" 's boot

Group: potadg	Message: 60187	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60188	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Original Japanese 'Planet' brochure..

Group: potadg	Message: 60189	From: Dario Sciola	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: Original Japanese 'Planet' brochure..

Group: potadg	Message: 60190	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG

Group: potadg	Message: 60191	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60192	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60193	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60194	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60195	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: sounding out "Rise of the POTA"

Group: potadg	Message: 60196	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: "Rise" no longer top banana

Group: potadg	Message: 60197	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" no longer top banana

Group: potadg	Message: 60198	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" no longer top banana

Group: potadg	Message: 60199	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" no longer top banana

Group: potadg	Message: 60200	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: "Rise": 1/2 of a 1/2 of a billion

Group: potadg	Message: 60201	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: "Rise of the POTA", "The Help" and civil rights

Group: potadg	Message: 60202	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA", "The Help" and civil rights

Group: potadg	Message: 60203	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: "Rise of the POTA" and identity politics

Group: potadg	Message: 60204	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Eric Greene talks "Rise of the POTA"

Group: potadg	Message: 60205	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

Group: potadg	Message: 60206	From: Neil T. Foster	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: missing messages

Group: potadg	Message: 60207	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

Group: potadg	Message: 60208	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

Group: potadg	Message: 60209	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

Group: potadg	Message: 60210	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Group: potadg	Message: 60211	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Zira Lives!

Group: potadg	Message: 60212	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Re: Zira Lives!

Group: potadg	Message: 60213	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Re: Zira Lives!

Group: potadg	Message: 60214	From: Neil T. Foster	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: FW: [moderatorcentral] Message posting issue resolved

Group: potadg	Message: 60215	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Cornelius sculpt, 1:1 scale

Group: potadg	Message: 60216	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Cornelius sculpt, 1:1 scale [1 Attachment]

Group: potadg	Message: 60217	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

Group: potadg	Message: 60218	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60219	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

Group: potadg	Message: 60220	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60221	From: Neil T. Foster	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Group: potadg	Message: 60222	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

Group: potadg	Message: 60223	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

Group: potadg	Message: 60224	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60225	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

Group: potadg	Message: 60226	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

Group: potadg	Message: 60227	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Group: potadg	Message: 60228	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder

Group: potadg	Message: 60229	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Group: potadg	Message: 60230	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Group: potadg	Message: 60231	From: knightangel314	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Orang washes itself with towel

Group: potadg	Message: 60132	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Ape Central

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Ed ("POTA Revisited") Gross has debuted his new POTA website "Ape Central":

http://www.apecentral.net

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Group: potadg	Message: 60133	From: Roy	Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Ape Central

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> Ed ("POTA Revisited") Gross has debuted his new POTA website "Ape Central":
>
> http://www.apecentral.net
>

Hmmm... It's a BLOG actually but cool none the less thanks...

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Group: potadg	Message: 60134	From: Roy	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the dar

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Say just like they have created glowing goldfish and now Glowing Goldfish just because they can by altering Embryos. How would it play out? Does the ape grows and escapes and then what? In this scenario which is the most likely he would not be able to simply infect with "human intelligence" other members of his species. So if you were in this apes "Shoes" how would you go about it, to try to bring Ape dominion over the Earth?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60135	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"

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I might be mistaken but isn't the bay window design...the one that Caeser draws in his cell and shows up on a stop sign during the revolution....very similar to the Ape Management logo in Conquest? Can't find a pic of that....

Tim

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: [PotaDG]

>SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"

The "Rise of the POTA" screenwriters take us through the various references to the POTA mythology in the new movie. Some were bothered by them, I enjoyed them and felt they were mostly subtle.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/08/11/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-21-nods-to-classic-apes/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60136	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

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I was just in NYC for a week and was amazed that I saw zero billboards or posters! only the trailer playing occasionally on the Fox screen in Times Square....

I guess they were really relying on word of mouth....

Tim

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

There's been some good CG in the trailers that was cut, like Caesar cradling Cornelia. And there was some CG not up to scratch that made it into the film, so I don't think that was the reason. I get the feeling Fox was kind of nervous about this movie, keeping a low profile, not really marketing it much. Since it's not a typical summer action movie and has stuff that might be considered depressing to the "Transformers" crowd. Maybe they wanted to streamline it and make it go down easier? It seems shorter than it has to be.

From: munkeyman63au

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:51 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

Yes it will be interesting to find out why it was so badly cut in places. I wonder if a lot of it may have to do with the CGI not being up to scratch?

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> Yeah, I think that movie was cut to

hell. It'll be interesting to see what transpires on the DVD.

>
>
>
>
> From: cjh5801
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011

9:53 PM

> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

>
>
>
> I think something was cut here in the final edit. There were

three canisters in the fridge, IIRC, and Caesar used two of them at the primate center. I think maybe a scene was cut where he used the third one at the zoo. Remember that just before Caesar and the other apes showed up at the zoo to free the 20 or so caged apes, the docent lady was urging the group of people to take photos because the zoo apes didn't usually act the way they were acting. They may have been acting oddly because Caesar had given them a shot of the gas the night before, as he was returning to the primate center after taking the canisters from Will's fridge.

>
> - Clark
>
> --- In

PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:

> >
> > It's going to

happen Neil! They already have Caesar talking now so I guess

> > that

can be explained by his exposure to the gas.

> >
> >
> >
> > Something Neil and I were discussing last night is - how many

apes were in

> > the compound? So how many must have been at the ZOO

and how did the ZOO

> > apes get so intelligent so quickly? He was out

of the gas by then...

> >
> >
> >
> > Oh

well.

> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> > Neil Moxham
> > Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011

12:53 AM

> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> >

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It actually works

pretty well. Nice job! My concern, one of my concerns, was

> > that

Caesar masters speach too quickly. If we see a sequel with all the same

> > apes talking after just a few years, then you're back to 'Battle'

and

> > unrealistic (by POTA standards) jumps in evolution. Their

speech, clothes,

> > etc, should evolve to where Taylor finds them,

otherwise they make huge

> > advances in ten years or so, then just

don't change anything for 2000 years.

> >
> > On a fairly

unrelated topic, I was just thinking wouldn't it be cool if the

> >

next movie had the advanced apes looking down on primitive apes, using them

> > as soldiers, labourers, etc, and not seeing the hypocrisy. A

bit like the

> > way humans evolved into mutant and primitive

species.

> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Neil T.

> > Foster"

<ntfoster@> wrote:

> > >
> > > Okay, here's a

quick sketch I did of Caesar in the 'classic' chimp

> >

clothes.

> > > I reckon the new apes would look all right in the old

stuff.

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neil T. Foster
> > >
> > >
> > > ---

In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Sally &

> > Michael"

<smwhitty@> wrote:

> > > >
> > > > Dunno -

depends how silly these apes look with clothes is my main

> > > >

consideration!

> > > >
> > > > Did anyone think

the red shirt was a tribute to CONQUEST? I know it

> > >

should

> > > > have been GREEN but that's what I

thought..

> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > >
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60137	From: j.gicquel@btinternet.com	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:

>
> That's quick! Looks really nice too. My French is a bit rusty, is that bonus DVD "the genesis of the film" or "the original film"?
>
> Also, I'm looking out for the book that came with the North American version of the Blu Ray collection a few years ago. The discs are no use to me as they wouldn't play on a European player even if I had one, but is the book worth buying the whole set for, if thats the only way to get it?
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "j.gicquel@" <j.gicquel@> wrote:
> >
> > Fnac in France are realeasing a nice boxset for the new film: Contains T shirt, photos, bonus DVD, THe original book
> >
> > http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-singes-les-origines/cp10144/w-4
> >
>

My boxset has already been shipped so I will give you more details. Important to know is that in the boxset there is a 'voucher card' for the combo edition of RotPOTA which is due out in December. The box DOES NOT contain the film but is a preorder boxset. Will pick up my copy of the film from Paris in December.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60138	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

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There's been hardly anything down here in Oz either apart from a few TV trailers. When I saw it with Michael he asked the ticket lady if there was any promo stuff etc. and she said they had been sent absolutely nothing. They had the posters advertising Rise at the cinema but that was it.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I was just in NYC for a week and was amazed that I saw zero billboards or posters! only the trailer playing occasionally on the Fox screen in Times Square....
> I guess they were really relying on word of mouth....

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Group: potadg	Message: 60139	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

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Sorry Roy but I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Roy" <cyberpunk@...> wrote:
>
> Say just like they have created glowing goldfish and now Glowing Goldfish just because they can by altering Embryos. How would it play out? Does the ape grows and escapes and then what? In this scenario which is the most likely he would not be able to simply infect with "human intelligence" other members of his species. So if you were in this apes "Shoes" how would you go about it, to try to bring Ape dominion over the Earth?
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60140	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: TAKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSPIRACY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ...

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I pre-ordered mine from Amazon a month or so ago before it was actually released. Should be here any day now...

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I'm getting mine from BORDERS.COM.AU
>
>
>
> How bout you Neil?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60141	From: Roy	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> Sorry Roy but I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Roy" <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> >
> > Say just like they have created glowing goldfish and now Glowing Goldfish just because they can by altering Embryos. How would it play out? Does the ape grows and escapes and then what? In this scenario which is the most likely he would not be able to simply infect with "human intelligence" other members of his species. So if you were in this apes "Shoes" how would you go about it, to try to bring Ape dominion over the Earth?
> >
>

Well what I'm trying to say is since science has already created Glowing goldfish and Glowing Beagles what if they come up with a trasngenic/hybrid ape that happens to be smarter. Let's say that he glows in the dark as well like the Goldfish and the Beagles but more importantly they have created the first non human sentient lifeform as a result.

So what happens then? How does a one of a kind specimen like that goes about if it wanted to instill Ape dominion over the Earth?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60142	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

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Well it would have to do it during the day as it would be an easy target in the dark for any humans who would be trying to stop it.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Roy" <cyberpunk@...> wrote:
>Let's say that he glows in the dark as well like the Goldfish and the Beagles but more importantly they have created the first non human sentient lifeform as a result.
>
> So what happens then? How does a one of a kind specimen like that goes about if it wanted to instill Ape dominion over the Earth?
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60143	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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Where’s the toys and Action Figures?

BIG ZERO!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 8:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes

>
> I was just in NYC for a week and was amazed that I saw zero billboards or

posters! only the trailer playing occasionally on the Fox screen in Times Square ....

> I guess they were really relying on word of mouth....

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Group: potadg	Message: 60144	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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Maybe Boom! will do a tie in comic. Anyone still reading the current ones?

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Where's the toys and Action Figures?
>
>
>
> BIG ZERO!

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Group: potadg	Message: 60145	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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Actually I hope they don't suddenly go mad with merchandise as I really don't want to go spending money or more POTA stuff.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Where's the toys and Action Figures?
>
>
>
> BIG ZERO!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 8:04 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
>
>
> There's been hardly anything down here in Oz either apart from a few TV
> trailers. When I saw it with Michael he asked the ticket lady if there was
> any promo stuff etc. and she said they had been sent absolutely nothing.
> They had the posters advertising Rise at the cinema but that was it.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > I was just in NYC for a week and was amazed that I saw zero billboards or
> posters! only the trailer playing occasionally on the Fox screen in Times
> Square....
> > I guess they were really relying on word of mouth....
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60146	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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there's that guy Rainman, that charges $900 for a 12-inch figure...I think he's making Caesar. LOL!!

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:10 PM, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...> wrote:

Actually I hope they don't suddenly go mad with merchandise as I really don't want to go spending money or more POTA stuff.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Where's the toys and Action Figures?
>
>
>
> BIG ZERO!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 8:04 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
>
>
> There's been hardly anything down here in Oz either apart from a few TV
> trailers. When I saw it with Michael he asked the ticket lady if there was
> any promo stuff etc. and she said they had been sent absolutely nothing.
> They had the posters advertising Rise at the cinema but that was it.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto: PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tim

> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > I was just in NYC for a week and was amazed that I saw zero billboards or
> posters! only the trailer playing occasionally on the Fox screen in Times
> Square....
> > I guess they were really relying on word of mouth....
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60147	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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Yeah.

They should get a big surge from the new movie too.

They have a graphic novel coming with the first 4 comics! What?

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 9:08 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

Maybe Boom! will do a tie in comic. Anyone still reading the current ones?

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Where's the toys and Action Figures?
>
>
>
> BIG ZERO!

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Group: potadg	Message: 60148	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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LOVFL!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 9:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

there's that guy Rainman, that charges $900 for a 12-inch figure...I think he's making Caesar. LOL!!

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:10 PM, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...> wrote:

Actually I hope they don't suddenly go mad with merchandise as I really don't want to go spending money or more POTA stuff.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Where's the toys and Action Figures?
>
>
>
> BIG ZERO!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 8:04 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: CLOTHES of the Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
>
>
> There's been hardly anything down here in Oz either apart from a few TV
> trailers. When I saw it with Michael he asked the ticket lady if there was
> any promo stuff etc. and she said they had been sent absolutely nothing.
> They had the posters advertising Rise at the cinema but that was it.
>
> Neil T.
>

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tim

> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > I was just in NYC for a week and was amazed that I saw zero

billboards or

> posters! only the trailer playing occasionally on the Fox screen in Times
> Square....
> > I guess they were really relying on word of mouth....
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60149	From: Roy	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: If science does create a smart hybrid ape.(yes that glows in the

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> Well it would have to do it during the day as it would be an easy target in the dark for any humans who would be trying to stop it.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Roy" <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> >Let's say that he glows in the dark as well like the Goldfish and the Beagles but more importantly they have created the first non human sentient lifeform as a result.
> >
> > So what happens then? How does a one of a kind specimen like that goes about if it wanted to instill Ape dominion over the Earth?
> >
>

LOL True I have to specify that all those artificially created lifeforms (Fish and Beagles) only "glow" in ultraviolet light. And only after consuming a specific compound in their diet. :D

Still the choices would be very limited. He cannot just go and infect every member of his species with intelligence. He could I suppose mate with a female member of his kind and hope to reproduce but this would be a very slow process. Apes do not procreate as fast as we humans do.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60150	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< "Rise" stuff

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Here's a couple of good links; thanks to Ape Central for the heads-up.

Interview with director Rupert Wyatt by Movies Ireland. Confirms the $ 93 million budget and talks sequel. He's seems to be basking in the glow after a good opening weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFvz1br_85E

And here's a fun review of "Rise" by spill.com:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhaKGt_H2fc

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Group: potadg	Message: 60151	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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I have the first three, will probably pick them up as they go along...

In a message dated 8/17/2011 6:13:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:

> Maybe Boom! will do a tie in comic. Anyone still reading the current ones?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60152	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Dollies of the Planet of the Apes

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Wow, does it come with alternate covers?! ;-)

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
> They have a graphic novel coming with the first 4 comics! What?
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60153	From: Roy	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? Pets?

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Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as Food or as Pets?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60154	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna"

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Despite the acclaim "Rise of the POTA" has had, Freida Pinto hasn't really shared in it since she's been considered superfluous to the movie. Here's a movie that might show her acting chops. "Trishna" has been described as an Indian version of "Tess of the d'Urbervilles" and premieres next month at the Toronto Film Festival.

And maybe there'll be a meatier role for her in the "Apes" sequel.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/08/trishna_trailer_freida_pinto.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 60155	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

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J, I don't know if you're living in France, but this might be of interest. The French Space Agency (CNES) is holding an exhibition entitled "Les Compagnons de l'espace" on the 17th and 18th September in Paris. It's about 'space companions', including real animals which went to space, like the female monkey Martine, and fictional animals, space robots, etc. The organiser intends to include a bit about Hector the chimp-o-naut from Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes novel.

L'original: http://www.cnes-observatoire.net/memoire/musee_manif/12_jep11_compagnons-espace/compagnons-espace_theme.html"

...et en anglais: http://www.artmediaagency.com/en/23271/cnes-exhibition-during-european-heritage-days/

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "j.gicquel@..." <j.gicquel@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> >
> > That's quick! Looks really nice too. My French is a bit rusty, is that bonus DVD "the genesis of the film" or "the original film"?
> >
> > Also, I'm looking out for the book that came with the North American version of the Blu Ray collection a few years ago. The discs are no use to me as they wouldn't play on a European player even if I had one, but is the book worth buying the whole set for, if thats the only way to get it?
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "j.gicquel@" <j.gicquel@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Fnac in France are realeasing a nice boxset for the new film: Contains T shirt, photos, bonus DVD, THe original book
> > >
> > > http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-singes-les-origines/cp10144/w-4
> > >
> >
> My boxset has already been shipped so I will give you more details. Important to know is that in the boxset there is a 'voucher card' for the combo edition of RotPOTA which is due out in December. The box DOES NOT contain the film but is a preorder boxset. Will pick up my copy of the film from Paris in December.
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60156	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: TAKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSPIRACY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ...

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My copy just arrived on the doorstep about 15 minutes ago and I've just had a quick look through the book and it is beautiful! Very classy and I love how it looks just as good without the dust-jacket too. The art looks fantastic all the way through it and some of the pictures have got me wanting to read it straight away to find out what's going on.

Depending on the story (which looks very promising at first glance) this could end up being the best POTA thing released this year IMO, including Rise!

Great stuff Drew (and crew), bring on the rest of the series!

Neil T

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Blam" <blamventurer@...> wrote:
> Thank you! Please get your friends to pick up the book, and if you can, post a review on amazon.com - the more sales we make of these first two, the more likely there will be a 3-6!
> Drew

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Group: potadg	Message: 60157	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when there would be so many better alternative food sources available.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Roy" <cyberpunk@...> wrote:
>
> Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as Food or as Pets?
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60158	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna"

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What? She was in Rise!? What did she do in it? ;-)

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Despite the acclaim "Rise of the POTA" has had, Freida Pinto hasn't really shared in it since she's been considered superfluous to the movie. Here's a movie that might show her acting chops. "Trishna" has been described as an Indian version of "Tess of the d'Urbervilles" and premieres next month at the Toronto Film Festival.
> And maybe there'll be a meatier role for her in the "Apes" sequel.
>
> http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/08/trishna_trailer_freida_pinto.html"
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60159	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

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One of the people putting it together contacted me (via Neil). They were supposed to be using a scan somewhere of an illustration, from one of the (way too) many copies of Monkey Planet/Planet of the Apes, that I sent them.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> J, I don't know if you're living in France, but this might be of interest. The French Space Agency (CNES) is holding an exhibition entitled "Les Compagnons de l'espace" on the 17th and 18th September in Paris. It's about 'space companions', including real animals which went to space, like the female monkey Martine, and fictional animals, space robots, etc. The organiser intends to include a bit about Hector the chimp-o-naut from Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes novel.
>
> L'original: http://www.cnes-observatoire.net/memoire/musee_manif/12_jep11_compagnons-espace/compagnons-espace_theme.html"
>
> ...et en anglais: http://www.artmediaagency.com/en/23271/cnes-exhibition-during-european-heritage-days/
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "j.gicquel@" <j.gicquel@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's quick! Looks really nice too. My French is a bit rusty, is that bonus DVD "the genesis of the film" or "the original film"?
> > >
> > > Also, I'm looking out for the book that came with the North American version of the Blu Ray collection a few years ago. The discs are no use to me as they wouldn't play on a European player even if I had one, but is the book worth buying the whole set for, if thats the only way to get it?
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "j.gicquel@" <j.gicquel@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Fnac in France are realeasing a nice boxset for the new film: Contains T shirt, photos, bonus DVD, THe original book
> > > >
> > > > http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-singes-les-origines/cp10144/w-4
> > > >
> > >
> > My boxset has already been shipped so I will give you more details. Important to know is that in the boxset there is a 'voucher card' for the combo edition of RotPOTA which is due out in December. The box DOES NOT contain the film but is a preorder boxset. Will pick up my copy of the film from Paris in December.
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60160	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Anniversary Reminder

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Group: potadg	Message: 60161	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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If the TV series is any indication, they'd see them as pets... But who
knows for sure...

In a message dated 8/18/2011 2:44:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
cyberpunk@... writes:

> Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a
> plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as Food or
> as Pets?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60162	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?

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It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.

Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60163	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when there would be so many better alternative food sources available.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Roy" <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> >
> > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as Food or as Pets?
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60164	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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They do eat meat Neil!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? Pets? What?

Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when there

would be so many better alternative food sources available.

>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,

" Roy " <cyberpunk@> wrote:

> >
> > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a

plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as Food or as Pets?

> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60165	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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Ah, okay, I've been misinformed. But (from a quick google) chimps only rarely eat meat (maybe only when biting off someone's pointing finger?), and gorillas and orangs are veggie, unless you count insects. Like Caesar in 'Battle', the civilised apes might be horrified at the notion of meat eating and ban it.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> They do eat meat Neil!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc.
> as? Food? Pets? What?
>
>
>
>
>
> Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when there
> would be so many better alternative food sources available.
> >
> > Neil T.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Roy"
> <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a
> plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as
> Food or as Pets?
> > >
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60166	From: Roy	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:

>
> Ah, okay, I've been misinformed. But (from a quick google) chimps only rarely eat meat (maybe only when biting off someone's pointing finger?), and gorillas and orangs are veggie, unless you count insects. Like Caesar in 'Battle', the civilised apes might be horrified at the notion of meat eating and ban it.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > They do eat meat Neil!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Neil Moxham
> > Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc.
> > as? Food? Pets? What?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when there
> > would be so many better alternative food sources available.
> > >
> > > Neil T.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Roy"
> > <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a
> > plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as
> > Food or as Pets?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Civilized like Koba? (10,000 pounds of sarcasm) Anyway as someone else correctly pointed out Chimpanzees are omnivorous and not herbivores. And I doubt they would ban meat eating as the chimps and bonobos themselves would not approve of such a measure. And by the way stop trolling your extreme veganism on this thread.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60167	From: Roy	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced or pr

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How do you think the Ape civilization in this reboot will evolve? Will
they become a very advanced and technically capable civilization or will
they be primitive as they can be as was the case with the original
films?

I hope that this time around they become a very advanced and technically
capable civilization. Probably to the point that they chip all their
human slaves from birth in a very similar fashion as to how we chip pets
and other animals today.

What do you think?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60168	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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Ha! My 'enlightened humans' comment was a joke, I'm no extreme vegan. Each to their own. But it's funny, I maybe get too much of my info on apes from the POTA movies. That's one example, where Caesar (in the novelisation of 'Battle') banned humans from eating meat and MacDonald and his friends furtively gorge on 'bootleg' rabbit in a darkened room. Another example is the idea that apes are afriad of water, which is also not true - they can't swim but have no problem wading though water.

Anyway, as you say, chimps are omnivorous, here's what answers.com says:
"Most apes, while primarily feeding on vegetation, can also eat bugs and meat, i.e. omnivores by taxonomy. The greater question is are any apes (including homo sapiens) purely vegetarian? Gorillas are only known to eat vegetation, orangutans add insects to that diet, and chimps even kill and eat smaller mammals. While apes could survive on a purely vegetarian diet, their anatomies could not sustain a purely carnal diet."

Gorillas: bloody hippies!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Roy" <cyberpunk@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Civilized like Koba? (10,000 pounds of sarcasm) Anyway as someone else correctly pointed out Chimpanzees are omnivorous and not herbivores. And I doubt they would ban meat eating as the chimps and bonobos themselves would not approve of such a measure. And by the way stop trolling your extreme veganism on this thread.
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60169	From: j.gicquel@btinternet.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Fnac France is realeasing a nice boxset

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:

>
> J, I don't know if you're living in France, but this might be of interest. The French Space Agency (CNES) is holding an exhibition entitled "Les Compagnons de l'espace" on the 17th and 18th September in Paris. It's about 'space companions', including real animals which went to space, like the female monkey Martine, and fictional animals, space robots, etc. The organiser intends to include a bit about Hector the chimp-o-naut from Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes novel.
>
> L'original: http://www.cnes-observatoire.net/memoire/musee_manif/12_jep11_compagnons-espace/compagnons-espace_theme.html"
>
> ...et en anglais: http://www.artmediaagency.com/en/23271/cnes-exhibition-during-european-heritage-days/
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "j.gicquel@" <j.gicquel@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's quick! Looks really nice too. My French is a bit rusty, is that bonus DVD "the genesis of the film" or "the original film"?
> > >
> > > Also, I'm looking out for the book that came with the North American version of the Blu Ray collection a few years ago. The discs are no use to me as they wouldn't play on a European player even if I had one, but is the book worth buying the whole set for, if thats the only way to get it?
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "j.gicquel@" <j.gicquel@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Fnac in France are realeasing a nice boxset for the new film: Contains T shirt, photos, bonus DVD, THe original book
> > > >
> > > > http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-singes-les-origines/cp10144/w-4
> > > >
> > >
> > My boxset has already been shipped so I will give you more details. Important to know is that in the boxset there is a 'voucher card' for the combo edition of RotPOTA which is due out in December. The box DOES NOT contain the film but is a preorder boxset. Will pick up my copy of the film from Paris in December.
> >
>

I am French but I do not live in France. Exhibition sounds interesting. Boxset has arrived. Love the t shirt. Set of photographs is nice and artwork is nice. Disappointed with DVD as it is very short but nice to have footage of the film at home!!! The DVD is all in English. Also included is a voucher card to get the combo edition of Rise (DVD+Blu-Ray+Digital copy) when it comes out (either in shop or online). Am wearing my new t shirt now!!!! Overall very pleased!!!

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Group: potadg	Message: 60170	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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No, it has recently been discovered that apes eat other animals – birds, monkeys. Etc and they form organized hunting parties to do so!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 9:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? Pets? What?

Ah, okay, I've been misinformed. But (from a quick google) chimps only rarely eat meat (maybe only when biting off someone's pointing finger?), and gorillas and orangs are veggie, unless you count insects. Like Caesar in ' Battle ', the civilised apes might be horrified at the notion of meat eating and ban it.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:

>
> They do eat meat Neil!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats

etc.

> as? Food? Pets? What?
>
>
>
>
>
> Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,

> "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when

there

> would be so many better alternative food sources available.
> >
> > Neil T.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , " Roy "

> <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result

of a

> plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as
> Food or as Pets?
> > >
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60171	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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Roy ,

This is not your group and it is not your place to tell people what to do.

Neil – sorry about this your vegetarianism is quite enlightened and if meat were not so delicious I might join you!

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roy
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 10:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? Pets? What?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:

>
> Ah, okay, I've been misinformed. But (from a quick google) chimps only

rarely eat meat (maybe only when biting off someone's pointing finger?), and gorillas and orangs are veggie, unless you count insects. Like Caesar in ' Battle ', the civilised apes might be horrified at the notion of meat eating and ban it.

>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,

"Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:

> >
> > They do eat meat Neil!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> > Neil Moxham
> > Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs &

cats etc.

> > as? Food? Pets? What?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,

> > "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food

when there

> > would be so many better alternative food sources available.
> > >
> > > Neil T.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , " Roy "

> > <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a

result of a

> > plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as?

> > Food or as Pets?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60172	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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Chimps do the hunting. If they took over they would only be allowed to eat human meat (because the other animal species have suffered enough under humans) and only on Friday.

The orangutans are vegetarians so when Dr. Zauis took over he would abolish meat eating.

From: Sally & Michael

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:46 AM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? Pets? What?

No, it has recently been discovered that apes eat other animals birds, monkeys. Etc and they form organized hunting parties to do so!

Ah, okay, I've been misinformed. But (from a quick google) chimps only rarely eat meat (maybe only when biting off someone's pointing finger?), and gorillas and orangs are veggie, unless you count insects. Like Caesar in ' Battle ', the civilised apes might be horrified at the notion of meat eating and ban it.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:

>
> They do eat meat

Neil!

>
>
>
> _____
>
> From:

href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
> To:

PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

>

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc.

> as? Food? Pets? What?
>
>
>
>
>
> Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.
>
> --- In

href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,

> "munkeyman63au"

<ntfoster@> wrote:

> >
> > I really couldn't see them

turning to cats and dogs for food when there

> would be so many better

alternative food sources available.

> >
> > Neil T.
> >
> > --- In

href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , " Roy "

>

<cyberpunk@> wrote:

> > >
> > > Since in this

reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a

> plague like the

original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as

> Food or as

Pets?

> > >
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60173	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

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For the next sequel they will be enjoying our abandoned stuff as the humans have moved underground, so it will have a Boulle flavor (so I hope it comes out in 2013 for the 50th anniversary of the book). Eventually they will become like the original movie since the director said it's a direct prequel.

From: Roy

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:31 AM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced or primitive?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60174	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"

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The nods to the original POTA films are well known now butsomeone made a video about them. Heads-up courtesy www.apecentral.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vljkFoeGHc

And...is it a conspiracy <o>?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaMhtSBnbgc

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Group: potadg	Message: 60175	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vljkFcoeGHc

<o>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaMhtSBn6gc

From: Jeff K.

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:29 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"

The nods to the original POTA films are well known now butsomeone made a video about them. Heads-up courtesy www.apecentral.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vljkFoeGHc

And...is it a conspiracy <o>?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaMhtSBnbgc

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Group: potadg	Message: 60176	From: Blam	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: TAKING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSPIRACY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ...

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Thank you Neil!

Let me know what you think of the story after you give it a read - all POTA fans who have talked to me about it so far have enjoyed it - I hope you do to!
Drew

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> My copy just arrived on the doorstep about 15 minutes ago and I've just had a quick look through the book and it is beautiful! Very classy and I love how it looks just as good without the dust-jacket too. The art looks fantastic all the way through it and some of the pictures have got me wanting to read it straight away to find out what's going on.
>
> Depending on the story (which looks very promising at first glance) this could end up being the best POTA thing released this year IMO, including Rise!
>
> Great stuff Drew (and crew), bring on the rest of the series!
>
> Neil T
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Blam" <blamventurer@> wrote:
> > Thank you! Please get your friends to pick up the book, and if you can, post a review on amazon.com - the more sales we make of these first two, the more likely there will be a 3-6!
> > Drew
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60177	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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All good! ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Roy,
>
>
>
> This is not your group and it is not your place to tell people what to do.
>
>
>
> Neil - sorry about this your vegetarianism is quite enlightened and if meat
> were not so delicious I might join you!
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Roy
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 10:17 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc.
> as? Food? Pets? What?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Neil
> Moxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, okay, I've been misinformed. But (from a quick google) chimps only
> rarely eat meat (maybe only when biting off someone's pointing finger?), and
> gorillas and orangs are veggie, unless you count insects. Like Caesar in
> 'Battle', the civilised apes might be horrified at the notion of meat eating
> and ban it.
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Sally &
> Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > >
> > > They do eat meat Neil!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Neil Moxham
> > > Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats
> etc.
> > > as? Food? Pets? What?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when
> there
> > > would be so many better alternative food sources available.
> > > >
> > > > Neil T.
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Roy"
> > > <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a
> > > plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as
> > > Food or as Pets?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> Civilized like Koba? (10,000 pounds of sarcasm) Anyway as someone else
> correctly pointed out Chimpanzees are omnivorous and not herbivores. And I
> doubt they would ban meat eating as the chimps and bonobos themselves would
> not approve of such a measure. And by the way stop trolling your extreme
> veganism on this thread.
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60178	From: Dario	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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Boom studies has announced another PotA series coming in November:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990

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Group: potadg	Message: 60179	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Apes "rise" past $ 200 million worldwide

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Through Thursday, "Rise of the POTA" made $ 117 million in the U.S. and $ 94 million through Wednesday elsewhere for a worldwide total of $ 211 million. Still too soon to say if it's sequel territory but hopefully the box office will continue to... I'm not going to say, no I have to... rise!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=44757

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Group: potadg	Message: 60180	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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I do hope this new one is better than what we've got so far... I'm trying
to support it, but it really isn't my thing... I never thought APES should be
turned into a murder mystery...

In a message dated 8/19/2011 2:52:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
darios@... writes:

> Boom studies has announced another PotA series coming in November:
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60181	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will this apes group appreciate music?

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Sounds like a good idea...

In a message dated 8/15/2011 6:53:59 AM Central Daylight Time,
neilmoxham@... writes:

> On a slightly related topic, I've been playing around with some of the
> apes novelty records, radio spots, etc, for a CD-length mp3 download. I know
> there was a plan to do this properly a few years ago and some folks here
> were involved (Cougar?). I've been in touch with Chris, who was co-ordinating
> that, and he seems okay with me doing this, but I'll happily put it
> off/alter it if anyone wants me to.
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60182	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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I was actually going to have a murder mystery theme going in BEGINS!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 1:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

> Boom studies has announced another PotA series coming in November:
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60183	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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but yours will be better illustrated! :)

Jess.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Sally & Michael <smwhitty@...> wrote:

I was actually going to have a murder mystery theme going in BEGINS!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 1:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

I do hope this new one is better than what we've got so far... I'm trying
to support it, but it really isn't my thing... I never thought APES should be
turned into a murder mystery...

In a message dated 8/19/2011 2:52:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
darios@... writes:

> Boom studies has announced another PotA series coming in November:
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60184	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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What would have been the basis/inspiration for your APES murder mystery:
"Columbo" or "Murder She Wrote"? ;)

In a message dated 8/19/2011 11:38:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
smwhitty@... writes:

>
>
> I was actually going to have a murder mystery theme going in BEGINS!
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> mlccougar@...
> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 1:46 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!
>
>
>
> I do hope this new one is better than what we've got so far... I'm trying
> to support it, but it really isn't my thing... I never thought APES should
> be
> turned into a murder mystery...
>
> In a message dated 8/19/2011 2:52:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
> <A HREF="mailto:darios%40ncf.ca">darios@...</A> writes:
>
> > Boom studies has announced another PotA series coming in November:
> > <A HREF="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990">
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990</A>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60185	From: knightangel314	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc. as? Food? P

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I think Jeff got it right a few posts down about what would happen. That's probably why we didn't see meat in the first two films, only veggies, AFAIK.

And sometimes taste isn't the most important thing. Although I couldn't stay vegetarian when I tried it.

Mel, letting it go now

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Roy,
>
>
>
> This is not your group and it is not your place to tell people what to do.
>
>
>
> Neil - sorry about this your vegetarianism is quite enlightened and if meat
> were not so delicious I might join you!
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Roy
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 10:17 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats etc.
> as? Food? Pets? What?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Neil
> Moxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, okay, I've been misinformed. But (from a quick google) chimps only
> rarely eat meat (maybe only when biting off someone's pointing finger?), and
> gorillas and orangs are veggie, unless you count insects. Like Caesar in
> 'Battle', the civilised apes might be horrified at the notion of meat eating
> and ban it.
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Sally &
> Michael" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> > >
> > > They do eat meat Neil!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Neil Moxham
> > > Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 6:59 PM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: How do you think this apes will see dogs & cats
> etc.
> > > as? Food? Pets? What?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Plus, like the most enlightened humans, apes are vegetarian.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I really couldn't see them turning to cats and dogs for food when
> there
> > > would be so many better alternative food sources available.
> > > >
> > > > Neil T.
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Roy"
> > > <cyberpunk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Since in this reboot Dogs and cats did not die out as a result of a
> > > plague like the original did, how will the apes see cats and dogs as? as
> > > Food or as Pets?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> Civilized like Koba? (10,000 pounds of sarcasm) Anyway as someone else
> correctly pointed out Chimpanzees are omnivorous and not herbivores. And I
> doubt they would ban meat eating as the chimps and bonobos themselves would
> not approve of such a measure. And by the way stop trolling your extreme
> veganism on this thread.
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60186	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: new movies crushed under "Rise" 's boot

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It looks like a very close race this weekend. On Friday all the new movies seem to have taken a backseat to "Rise" and "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week by $ 1 million of so). Of course the weekend is a different beast than a week day but so far it looks like "Rise" still has a chance to pull off a third # 1 weekend. But I don't want to jinx it so forget I said anything.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/first-box-office-top-5-utter-confusion/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60187	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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Law and Order! ;)

Nah – not much of a thread. As most of you know there is unrest in the ape community where apes and humans are supposed to co-exist.

If you have read it you will know a human is torn apart and I thought it would be logical that this be reported and investigated, seeing as it has not happened in the memory of any of the characters.

There’s a nice twist to the investigation and a statue of Kronos, mirroring the “lawgiver” statues we know well, comes into play.

I seem to recall Neil illustrating the “Kronos Lawgiver” – would you share Neil?

By the way, now that the FZine is almost sold out Neil and I are considering making it available online. Comments?

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 2:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

What would have been the basis/inspiration for your APES murder mystery:
"Columbo" or "Murder She Wrote"? ;)

In a message dated 8/19/2011 11:38:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
smwhitty@... writes:

>
>
> I was actually going to have a murder mystery theme going in BEGINS!
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

> mlccougar@...
> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2011 1:46 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com;

href="mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com">pota@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!
>
>
>
> I do hope this new one is better than what we've got so far... I'm trying
> to support it, but it really isn't my thing... I never thought APES should
> be
> turned into a murder mystery...
>
> In a message dated 8/19/2011 2:52:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
> <A HREF="mailto:darios%40ncf.ca">

href="mailto:darios%40ncf.ca">darios@...</A> writes:

>
> > Boom studies has announced another PotA series coming in November:
> > <A HREF="

href="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990">http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990">

> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990</A>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60188	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Original Japanese 'Planet' brochure..

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...at least I think that's what it says. Some nice images:

http://blog.livedoor.jp/donsanbonsan/archives/3923691.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 60189	From: Dario Sciola	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: Original Japanese 'Planet' brochure..

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Yes.

I've got two of these for the last two movies. My understanding is that
back in the day, movie goers in Japan got these nice programs when they
went to see a movie. Not sure if they had to pay extra for these or if
they were just free incentives. But they are beautiful. I just wish I
could read Japanese to see what they had to say.

I might try putting that site through the google translator. :)

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Moxham <neilmoxham@...>
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:10 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Original Japanese 'Planet' brochure..

> ...at least I think that's what it says. Some nice images:
>
> http://blog.livedoor.jp/donsanbonsan/archives/3923691.html"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60190	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Kronogiver statue sketch.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
Description :

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Kronogiver%20statue%20sketch.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html"
Regards,

munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60191	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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Just uploaded it to the Files section.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I seem to recall Neil illustrating the "Kronos Lawgiver" - would you share
> Neil?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60192	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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I'd ask everyone who contributed to the first issue... I'm guessing they'd
be okay with it...

If you would put it online, where would you put it? Do you have a website
you're setting up?

> In a message dated 8/20/2011 5:14:49 AM Central Daylight Time,
> smwhitty@... writes:
>
>
> > By the way, now that the FZine is almost sold out Neil and I are
> > considering making it available online. Comments?
>
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60193	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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Attachments :

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Thanks Neil!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2011 9:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Just uploaded it to the Files section.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:

>
> I seem to recall Neil illustrating the "Kronos Lawgiver" - would

you share

> Neil?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60194	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/20/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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Attachments :

wow that's a fabulous drawing!!!

Now why can't boom comics use better artists????

Jess.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Sally & Michael <smwhitty@...> wrote:

Thanks Neil!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2011 9:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

Just uploaded it to the Files section.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally & Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I seem to recall Neil illustrating the "Kronos Lawgiver" - would you share
> Neil?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60195	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: sounding out "Rise of the POTA"

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This rocks, a look at the sound FX for "Rise". More collaborative with the rest of the film than you might think. Heads-up courtesy Ape Central.

http://vimeo.com/27902186

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Group: potadg	Message: 60196	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: "Rise" no longer top banana

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The party's over. Looks like "Rise of the POTA" lost it's # 1 spot after a two weekend ride to "The Help" of all things. But it held strong against the debuts of famous franchises ("Spy Kids", "Conan the B", "Fright Night") to come in at # 2. It made an estimated $16 million to the un"Help"ful $20 million of the # 1 flick.

So how will "Rise" stand among the summer releases? Too soon to tell but it would be groovy if it cleared $ 500 million worldwide. That's asking a lot at this point. When the foreign numbers come in tomorrow it'll probably be half -way there. Obviously it won't join the Billion Dollar Club of "Harry Potter 8", "Transformers 3" or "Pirates 4"; or catch up to "Kung Fu Panda 2" ($616 mil worldwide) and the slob duo of "Fast 5" ($605 mil ww) and "Hangover 2" ($581 mil ww). But can it beat Fox's top 2011 movie "Rio" ($482 mil ww), it's once potential competish "Cars 2" ($476 mil ww) or the top comic book movie "Thor" ($448 mil ww)? Time will tell.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/first-box-office-top-5-utter-confusion/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60197	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" no longer top banana

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Well I added $19.50 to that this morning. Three of us saw it and enjoyed it. First time was horrible. Second time palatable. CGI is not completely there yet, but being able to sit back to enjoy the film instead of being 2nd row from front of screen made a difference.

I just have to say how wonderful Planet of the Apes fans are. When we got to the theater, a man was waving us down to hurry and get to theater #14, where the movie was about to play. I thought he was beckoning at some people behind us but he was excited we were going to see the movie. My sister raised her eyebrows..."One of your "friends" I presume?" I told her, "No. I've never seen that man before." How funny and wacky it was...and a pleasant surprise. And I wasn't even wearing an ape costume!

Jess.

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jeff K. < veetus@...> wrote:

The party's over. Looks like "Rise of the POTA" lost it's # 1 spot after a two weekend ride to "The Help" of all things. But it held strong against the debuts of famous franchises ("Spy Kids", "Conan the B", "Fright Night") to come in at # 2. It made an estimated $16 million to the un"Help"ful $20 million of the # 1 flick.

So how will "Rise" stand among the summer releases? Too soon to tell but it would be groovy if it cleared $ 500 million worldwide. That's asking a lot at this point. When the foreign numbers come in tomorrow it'll probably be half -way there. Obviously it won't join the Billion Dollar Club of "Harry Potter 8", "Transformers 3" or "Pirates 4"; or catch up to "Kung Fu Panda 2" ($616 mil worldwide) and the slob duo of "Fast 5" ($605 mil ww) and "Hangover 2" ($581 mil ww). But can it beat Fox's top 2011 movie "Rio" ($482 mil ww), it's once potential competish "Cars 2" ($476 mil ww) or the top comic book movie "Thor" ($448 mil ww)? Time will tell.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/first-box-office-top-5-utter-confusion/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60198	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" no longer top banana

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If he was a REAL apes fan he would have tried to murder you! ;)

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Monday, 22 August 2011 6:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Rise" no longer top banana

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

So how will "Rise" stand among the summer releases? Too soon to tell but it would be groovy if it cleared $ 500 million worldwide. That's asking a lot at this point. When the foreign numbers come in tomorrow it'll probably be half -way there. Obviously it won't join the Billion Dollar Club of "Harry Potter 8", "Transformers 3" or "Pirates 4"; or catch up to "Kung Fu Panda 2" ($616 mil worldwide) and the slob duo of "Fast 5" ($605 mil ww) and "Hangover 2" ($581 mil ww). But can it beat Fox's top 2011 movie " Rio " ($482 mil ww), it's once potential competish "Cars 2" ($476 mil ww) or the top comic book movie "Thor" ($448 mil ww)? Time will tell.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/first-box-office-top-5-utter-confusion/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60199	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" no longer top banana

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You're just jealous because you can't go to a convention in CG. Talk about sour apes, I mean sour grapes. : )

Even if you could look like a "Rise" ape, they'd think you were something that...fell out of a tree!

From: jessica rotich

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:06 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Rise" no longer top banana

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

The party's over. Looks like "Rise of the POTA" lost it's # 1 spot after a two weekend ride to "The Help" of all things. But it held strong against the debuts of famous franchises ("Spy Kids", "Conan the B", "Fright Night") to come in at # 2. It made an estimated $16 million to the un"Help"ful $20 million of the # 1 flick.

So how will "Rise" stand among the summer releases? Too soon to tell but it would be groovy if it cleared $ 500 million worldwide. That's asking a lot at this point. When the foreign numbers come in tomorrow it'll probably be half -way there. Obviously it won't join the Billion Dollar Club of "Harry Potter 8", "Transformers 3" or "Pirates 4"; or catch up to "Kung Fu Panda 2" ($616 mil worldwide) and the slob duo of "Fast 5" ($605 mil ww) and "Hangover 2" ($581 mil ww). But can it beat Fox's top 2011 movie "Rio" ($482 mil ww), it's once potential competish "Cars 2" ($476 mil ww) or the top comic book movie "Thor" ($448 mil ww)? Time will tell.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/first-box-office-top-5-utter-confusion/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60200	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/21/2011
Subject: "Rise": 1/2 of a 1/2 of a billion

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"Harry Potter" makes it look so easy but the latest foreign receipts are in and "Rise of the POTA" passed the $ 250 million mark worldwide. The apes still don't get invited to the same parties as the Transformers do but it's a start.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60201	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: "Rise of the POTA", "The Help" and civil rights

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"Rise of the POTA" and "The Help" have been at the top of the box office for a couple weeks. One is seen as a civil rights drama and the other a summer action flick. But here's an interesting commentary that suggests they have similar subject matter. I'll let him tell you which one is better (and no, it wasn't written by Eric Greene). Thanks to Ape Central for the heads-up.

http://thecivilrightsmovement.com/I-wish-I-knew-how-it-would-feel-to-be-free-on-rise-of-planet-of-the-apes-and-the-help/discrimination/2011/08/21/25639

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Group: potadg	Message: 60202	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA", "The Help" and civil rights

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I guess you'll have to click on the article through here:

http://www.apecentral.net/2011/08/heard-it-through-the-ape-vine-82211.html"

From: Jeff K.

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:36 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: "Rise of the POTA", "The Help" and civil rights

http://thecivilrightsmovement.com/I-wish-I-knew-how-it-would-feel-to-be-free-on-rise-of-planet-of-the-apes-and-the-help/discrimination/2011/08/21/25639

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Group: potadg	Message: 60203	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: "Rise of the POTA" and identity politics

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After that article about "Rise" and civil rights, here's one that says the original POTA was based in that era's civil rights movement but "Rise" fits in more with today's "identity politics".

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/11005/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60204	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Eric Greene talks "Rise of the POTA"

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Eric Greene needs no introduction to POTA fans who have kept up with recent thinking on the franchise. From the doc "Behind the POTA" to the blu-ray docs to his commentary on the DVDs to his own book "POTA as American Myth", when it comes to POTA, as Henry Ford said in "The Grapes of Wrath", he'll be there. And personally I think Eric has added a lot to the discussion, so sue me.

Anyway, here's his comments mostly on the original POTA but he does mention "Rise" (which he doesn't feel is as risk taking as the originals but it's a start).

http://www.jewishjournal.com/the_ticket/item/pja_and_jfsj_regional_director_eric_greene_discusses_planet_of_the_apes_vid/

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Group: potadg	Message: 60205	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

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That could be interesting way to go...as it could lead to a truer adaptation of Boulle's book!

From: Roy <cyberpunk@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced or primitive?

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Group: potadg	Message: 60206	From: Neil T. Foster	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: missing messages

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Just got this from the Yahoo! people so if you've posted to the group recently and it hasn't shown up (as has happened to me a couple of times), it's their fault!

Neil T.

-----Original Message-----
From: moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com [moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of moderatorcentral-owner@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:46 PM
To: moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [moderatorcentral] missing messages

Just a quick note to folks that we're aware of the reports of "missing messages", and we're investigating. We'll post an update once we know more.

- Yahoo! Groups Team

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Group: potadg	Message: 60207	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

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If they'd go any sort Boulle route with any sequel(s), it would really
throw off the idea the director has that RISE is a direct prequel to PLANET...

In a message dated 8/22/2011 3:03:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
apefan23@... writes:

> That could be interesting way to go...as it could lead to a truer
> adaptation of Boulle's book!

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Group: potadg	Message: 60208	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

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The director said his idea was to pick up 8 years later with the humans having to abandon the surface and the apes having all our stuff. That would be kind of a Boulle thing, the apes in our modern buildings and using our abandoned modern equipment. If they could release it in 2013 for the 50th anniversary of the book, that would rock! Even Cougar would tell the director, "Well done, sir!".

From: mlccougar@...

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:23 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o...

> That could be interesting way to go...as it could lead to a

truer

> adaptation of Boulle's book!

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Group: potadg	Message: 60209	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/22/2011
Subject: Re: How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o

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Again, that’s the scenario I was going to use for BEGINS.

Modern society, modern toys, then a breakaway group of apes blames technology for certain things/links it to humans and goes AMISH, and ends up in North Eastern USA.

They can have their technology as long as they have an out.

However there is way too much else that does not fit in with PLANET for it to be a direct prequel, regardless of what he says!

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 7:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o...

From: mlccougar@...

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:23 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] How will the Ape Civilization in this reboot will be? Advanced o...

> That could be interesting way to go...as it could lead to a truer
> adaptation of Boulle's book!

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Group: potadg	Message: 60210	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Re: FZine online? Was: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!

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I think it'd reach a much wider audience; an online version would seem much more convenient to most of the internet generation. It would also probably be a good time to attract the newer POTA fans, and generate interest in future issues. I say go for it!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> I'd ask everyone who contributed to the first issue... I'm guessing they'd
> be okay with it...
>
> If you would put it online, where would you put it? Do you have a website
> you're setting up?
>
> > In a message dated 8/20/2011 5:14:49 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > smwhitty@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > By the way, now that the FZine is almost sold out Neil and I are
> > > considering making it available online. Comments?
> >
> >
>
> </HTML>
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 60211	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Zira Lives!

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After all these years Zira is as beautiful as ever (and the humans are still so damned ugly!).

http://www.apecentral.net/2011/08/zira-at-wondercon-whats-she-looking-for-in-a-man-or-an-ape.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 60212	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Re: Zira Lives!

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ugh!!!

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

After all these years Zira is as beautiful as ever (and the humans are still so damned ugly!).

http://www.apecentral.net/2011/08/zira-at-wondercon-whats-she-looking-for-in-a-man-or-an-ape.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 60213	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: Re: Zira Lives!

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Go Jess!!!!

Tim

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:23 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Zira Lives!

After all these years Zira is as beautiful as ever (and the humans are still so damned ugly!).

http://www.apecentral.net/2011/08/zira-at-wondercon-whats-she-looking-for-in-a-man-or-an-ape.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 60214	From: Neil T. Foster	Date: 8/23/2011
Subject: FW: [moderatorcentral] Message posting issue resolved

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-----Original Message-----
From: moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com [moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of moderatorcentral-owner@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:49 AM
To: moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [moderatorcentral] Message posting issue resolved

An update to let folks know that we believe the issue with messages not posting to Groups has been resolved. The root cause was a misconfiguration on one bank of servers that caused messages to fail to route properly. The problem was fixed Monday at 10 am PDT (5 pm GMT) and our scripts and process have been updated to prevent such a misconfiguration from happening again. (Note: We waited to send this update until we were confident that this was the only issue and the problem was fully resolved).

The problem affected ~10-15% of messages posted to Groups between Friday afternoon and Monday morning PDT (and would have affected messages posted via the web or email). Messages posted after Sunday at 10 am PDT (or approved by moderators after that time if the message in question required moderation) should have posted to group but would have been delayed until Monday morning. Messages posted (/approved) before Sunday at 10 am should have been bounced back to the sender after 24 hours with a message saying the mail server was unreachable or unresponsive.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60215	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Cornelius sculpt, 1:1 scale

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Eventually I will make a foam latex mask of this sculpt.

Jess.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60216	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Cornelius sculpt, 1:1 scale [1 Attachment]

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WOW!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 8:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ; POTA
Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius sculpt, 1:1 scale [1 Attachment]

Eventually I will make a foam latex mask of this sculpt.

Jess.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60217	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

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Here's an article about just how many apes actually are in the area:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/08/23/the_rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_a_fact_check_how_many_apes_li.html"

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60218	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

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http://kalkion.com/fiction/1311/imagine-planet-apes

I agree!

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60219	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

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Thank you!! My girlfriend's argument was that the hundreds of marauding apes were fluffed up by the apes from the zoo. Plus, how could they be part of an organized group to attain their freedom, when they were 1.) not exposed to the virus like the sanctuary apes 2.) if they were exposed, there is the incubation period, isn't there?

anyway, just my thoughts.

Jess.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:11 PM, munkeyman63au < ntfoster@...> wrote:

Here's an article about just how many apes actually are in the area:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/08/23/the_rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_a_fact_check_how_many_apes_li.html"

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60220	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

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I agree as well! Well said!!!

Jess.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:18 PM, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...> wrote:

http://kalkion.com/fiction/1311/imagine-planet-apes

I agree!

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60221	From: Neil T. Foster	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

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Have a good one you old fart!

Neil T. Foster

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Group: potadg	Message: 60222	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

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And here's how many apes have been able to speak in the last 5 million years: zero.

Doesn't stop my enjoyment of POTA one iota. ; )

From: munkeyman63au

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:11 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

Here's an article about just how many apes actually are in the area:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/08/23/the_rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_a_fact_check_how_many_apes_li.html"

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60223	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

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LOL! Very true.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

And here's how many apes have been able to speak in the last 5 million years: zero.

Doesn't stop my enjoyment of POTA one iota. ; )

From: munkeyman63au

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:11 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

Here's an article about just how many apes actually are in the area:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/08/23/the_rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_a_fact_check_how_many_apes_li.html"

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60224	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

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What? The apes are just getting warmed up. The ones in the original were no geniuses either.

From: munkeyman63au

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:18 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Imagine a Planet of the Apes

http://kalkion.com/fiction/1311/imagine-planet-apes

I agree!

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60225	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

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Early in the movie when Caesar is a baby it shows the apes in the zoo responding to him, as if they knew on a deep level he was important.

In "Conquest" and "Battle" the apes developed and followed Caesar/learned to talk rapidly too. Maybe they should have made this a 12 film series and in # 12 the apes start talking. That's more realistic but it would also be boring. They did what they had to do to get this thing cooking.

From: jessica rotich

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:27 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] How Many Apes Live in San Francisco?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:11 PM, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...> wrote:

Here's an article about just how many apes actually are in the area:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/08/23/the_rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_a_fact_check_how_many_apes_li.html"

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60226	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Imagine a Planet of the Apes

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I loved the apes in this movie and they had a great dynamic of personalities. 'Nuff said.

From: jessica rotich

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:29 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Imagine a Planet of the Apes

I agree as well! Well said!!!

Jess.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:18 PM, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...> wrote:

http://kalkion.com/fiction/1311/imagine-planet-apes

I agree!

Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 60227	From: Jeff K.	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

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Yes, Happy Birthday Michael!

His birthday is the same as Tim Burton's?

From: Neil T. Foster

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:44 PM

To: 'Sally & Michael'

Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Have a good one you old fart!

Neil T. Foster

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Group: potadg	Message: 60228	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Tim Burton's Birthday

Date:		Thursday August 25, 2011
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		Happy birthday Mr. Burton! (Director: POTA 2001)

Yahoo! Greetings:		Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:		Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide

Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

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Group: potadg	Message: 60229	From: jessica rotich	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

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Happy Birthday, Michael!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Jeff K. < veetus@...> wrote:

Yes, Happy Birthday Michael!

His birthday is the same as Tim Burton's?

From: Neil T. Foster

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:44 PM

To: 'Sally & Michael'

Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Have a good one you old fart!

Neil T. Foster

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Group: potadg	Message: 60230	From: Sally & Michael	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

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Stop saying the “TB” word!!!

Thanks for your birthday wishes.

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 1:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Yes, Happy Birthday Michael!

His birthday is the same as Tim Burton's?

From: Neil T. Foster

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:44 PM

To: 'Sally & Michael'

Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr. Whitty

Have a good one you old fart!

Neil T. Foster

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Group: potadg	Message: 60231	From: knightangel314	Date: 8/24/2011
Subject: Orang washes itself with towel

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/orangutan-washing-itself-with-towel-wows-the-web.html"

I immediately thought of the fandom when I saw this on another board. They say it's not uncommon in orangs, though...either captive or in the wild.

Mel

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