|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61232 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61233 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Disney's Chimpanzee.....Goodall approved! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61234 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61235 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61236 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Disney's Chimpanzee.....Goodall approved! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61237 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61238 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Should Mark Ruffalo have starred in "Rise"? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61239 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Should Mark Ruffalo have starred in "Rise"? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61240 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: "The Forbidden Zine" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61241 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "The Forbidden Zine" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61242 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61243 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61244 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61245 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61246 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61247 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61248 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61249 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Joe Letteri talks Oscars |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61250 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: The Oscar is dead. Long live the KING! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61251 |
From: Neil Moxham |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61252 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61253 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" of the Saturn Awards |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61254 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: R.I.P. "Conquest" cinematographer |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61255 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61256 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Neilrrific |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61257 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61258 |
From: Tim |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61259 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61260 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61261 |
From: drzaiusdavis |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61262 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61263 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61264 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61265 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61266 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61267 |
From: Blam |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61268 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61269 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61270 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61271 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61272 |
From: Graham |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61273 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61274 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61275 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61276 |
From: drzaiusdavis |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61277 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61278 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/6/2012 |
| Subject: Ape Trek |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61279 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/6/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61280 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: POTA marathon pics |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61281 |
From: Dario |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: Re: POTA marathon pics |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61282 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61283 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61284 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/8/2012 |
| Subject: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61285 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/8/2012 |
| Subject: Re: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61286 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/9/2012 |
| Subject: Re: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61287 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/9/2012 |
| Subject: Re: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61288 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/11/2012 |
| Subject: (no subject) |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61289 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/11/2012 |
| Subject: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61290 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/11/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61291 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/12/2012 |
| Subject: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61292 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Terror on the POTA in colour |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61293 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61294 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61295 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61296 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61297 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61298 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61299 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61300 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61301 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61302 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61303 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Paul Williams doc in theaters in June |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61304 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61305 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Still funny! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61306 |
From: Dario |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61307 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/16/2012 |
| Subject: The road to POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61308 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/17/2012 |
| Subject: Caesar figure |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61309 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/19/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61310 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/20/2012 |
| Subject: OT: former POTA producer James Cameron in deep |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61311 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/21/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61312 |
From: Neil Moxham |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61313 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61314 |
From: Dario |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61315 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61316 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61317 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61318 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/25/2012 |
| Subject: OT: Cameron hits bottom |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61319 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/25/2012 |
| Subject: "Empire" Magazine Awards a wash |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61320 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/25/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61321 |
From: Patrick |
Date: 3/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61322 |
From: atragon1@aol.com |
Date: 3/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61323 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/29/2012 |
| Subject: More apes go BOOM! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61324 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 3/30/2012 |
| Subject: Re: [pota] More apes go BOOM! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61325 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/30/2012 |
| Subject: chimps teaching their young to communicate |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61326 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/30/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61327 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/31/2012 |
| Subject: Toyz 2 Men |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61328 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 4/6/2012 |
| Subject: TerrorFYING! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61329 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 4/6/2012 |
| Subject: Re: TerrorFYING! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61330 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 4/6/2012 |
| Subject: Re: TerrorFYING! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61331 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 4/6/2012 |
| Subject: Reading the tea leaves for "Rise 2" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61232 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
.html
.html
Things seem to have gone smoothly for the Oscars
after installing new producers and Billy Crystal. But one speed bump has been
the Sacha Baron Cohen controversy. When the Academy heard he was going to walk
the red carpet as "The Dictator", the title character of his new movie, they
banned him from the ceremony (he is in the multi-nominated "Hugo"). In response,
he has made this video. In addition to listing other indignities, he also
bemoans the lack of nominations for "Planet".
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61233 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Disney's Chimpanzee.....Goodall approved! |
.html.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/chimpanzee-disney-film-save-chimps_n_1298927.htmlncid=edlinkusaolp00000003 <.html <.html
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61234 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
.html.html
Oh dear!
Planet of the RAPES!
Please tell me you aren’t taking
this seriously Jeff! :-0
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012
6:03 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Sacha Baron
Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet"
Things seem to have gone smoothly for the Oscars
after installing new producers and Billy Crystal. But one speed bump has been
the Sacha Baron Cohen controversy. When the Academy heard he was going to walk the
red carpet as "The Dictator", the title character of his new movie,
they banned him from the ceremony (he is in the multi-nominated
"Hugo"). In response, he has made this video. In addition to listing
other indignities, he also bemoans the lack of nominations for
"Planet".
<.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61235 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
.html
.html
No I'm not. : o
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for
"Planet"
Oh
dear!
Planet of the
RAPES!
Please tell me you
arent taking this seriously Jeff! :-0
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012 6:03
AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar
screed for "Planet"
Things seem to have gone
smoothly for the Oscars after installing new producers and Billy Crystal. But
one speed bump has been the Sacha Baron Cohen controversy. When the Academy
heard he was going to walk the red carpet as "The Dictator", the title character
of his new movie, they banned him from the ceremony (he is in the
multi-nominated "Hugo"). In response, he has made this video. In addition to
listing other indignities, he also bemoans the lack of nominations for
"Planet".
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61236 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Disney's Chimpanzee.....Goodall approved! |
.html
.html
One ape movie at a time. We've an Oscar to win,
sir.
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Disney's Chimpanzee.....Goodall
approved!
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61237 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
.html.html
Phew!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012
11:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Sacha Baron
Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet"
Sent:
Friday,
February 24, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet"
Oh dear!
Planet of the RAPES!
Please tell me you aren’t taking this seriously Jeff!
:-0
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012
6:03 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Sacha Baron
Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet"
Things seem to have gone smoothly for the Oscars after installing new producers
and Billy Crystal. But one speed bump has been the Sacha Baron Cohen
controversy. When the Academy heard he was going to walk the red carpet as
"The Dictator", the title character of his new movie, they banned him
from the ceremony (he is in the multi-nominated "Hugo"). In response,
he has made this video. In addition to listing other indignities, he also
bemoans the lack of nominations for "Planet".
<.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61238 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Should Mark Ruffalo have starred in "Rise"? |
.html
.html
Some people are under the impression that the
human characters in "Rise of the POTA" are the weak link. Probably. But I don't
blame the actors. It was more the roles they were given and where the director
and writers chose to focuse their attention (the director said as much in his
DVD commentary, that he concentrated on the ape story). The humans were
written more as sign posts for the story. I think it had a good cast.
But would it have been a better movie with
different actors? I guess we'll never know, but Movieline speculates in a
thoughtful article that the ticket might have been Mark Ruffalo instead of James
Franco in the key role of Will. I guess we'll get a chance to judge for
ourselves when Ruffalo plays one of the most famous sci-fi scientists of all,
the Incredible Hulk in this summer's "The Avengers".
<.html <.html
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61239 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Should Mark Ruffalo have starred in "Rise"? |
.html.html
I think it should have been a more mature
and proven actor. Kevin Spacey, Lithgow himself. Yet again, FOX ruined this
by casting someone for the teenage population.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012
2:23 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Should Mark
Ruffalo have starred in "Rise"?
Some people are under the impression that the human
characters in "Rise of the POTA" are the weak link. Probably. But I
don't blame the actors. It was more the roles they were given and where the
director and writers chose to focuse their attention (the director said as much
in his DVD commentary, that he concentrated on the ape story). The humans
were written more as sign posts for the story. I think it had a good cast.
But would it have been a better movie with
different actors? I guess we'll never know, but Movieline speculates in a
thoughtful article that the ticket might have been Mark Ruffalo instead of
James Franco in the key role of Will. I guess we'll get a chance to judge for
ourselves when Ruffalo plays one of the most famous sci-fi scientists of all,
the Incredible Hulk in this summer's "The Avengers".
<.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61240 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: "The Forbidden Zine" |
|
.html Whitty/Neil: Are there any plans for a second issue of "The Forbidden
Zine"? If so, any idea of when it might be available?</HTML> <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61241 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "The Forbidden Zine" |
.html.html
Hi Mike
Yes, we will be doing more issues.
The trouble is, Neil is currently being
paid to do work for a “Pulp Fiction” magazine and he has no spare
time to finish Chapter 2 of BEGINS.
We have finished the back story, but we
have also got the next 8 pages of the main story written and I want it complete
before we print #2.
We have also decide to offer a variety of
formats – there will be the deluxe full colour format, but that will be
through and on-line publisher for people to order as they will. I list about
$500 on issue #1 and while I was willing to do so, in order to get the nicest
looking Fanzine apedom has seen, it won’t happen again.
We will do a run of colour covered B&W
and a budget all B&W, as well as offering a web only version for about $5.
So I imagine it’s time to pucker up
and start covering Neil’s bottom in praise and adoration if you want it
quick! J
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012
5:37 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "The
Forbidden Zine"
Whitty/Neil:
Are there any plans for a second issue of "The Forbidden
Zine"? If so, any idea of when it might be available?</HTML>
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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"Rise of the POTA" is still the frontrunner to
win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from "Harry Potter" (which
won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise) and "Hugo" (which has
history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among others). It all comes down
to Sunday. Just sayin'.
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From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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Hate to say it Jeff but I think HUGO will
win (easily).
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012
12:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise"
vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
"Rise of the POTA" is still the
frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from
"Harry Potter" (which won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the
franchise) and "Hugo" (which has history on it's side as a Best
Picture Nominee, among others). It all comes down to Sunday. Just sayin'.
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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Liar! Traitor!
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
Hate to say it Jeff but
I think HUGO will win (easily).
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:46
AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
"Rise of the POTA" is still
the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from
"Harry Potter" (which won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise)
and "Hugo" (which has history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among
others). It all comes down to Sunday. Just
sayin'.
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From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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Just traitor! J
xoxoxox
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012
2:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG]
"Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
Sent:
Saturday,
February 25, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
Hate to say it Jeff but I think HUGO will win (easily).
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012
12:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise"
vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
"Rise of the POTA" is still the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX
Oscar, despite recent momentum from "Harry Potter" (which won the
BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise) and "Hugo" (which has
history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among others). It all comes
down to Sunday. Just sayin'.
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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May the Lawgiver have mercy on you. But he
won't! >: (
A lobotomy would make better use of your
brain if you're going to use it such a way.
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
Just traitor!
J
xoxoxox
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 2:10
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry"
vs. "Hugo"
Sent:
Saturday,
February 25, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
Hate to say it Jeff but
I think HUGO will win (easily).
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:46
AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
"Rise of the POTA" is still
the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from
"Harry Potter" (which won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise)
and "Hugo" (which has history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among
others). It all comes down to Sunday. Just
sayin'.
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From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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Hehehe!
I just purchased the lawgiver statue from
that dude in LA! So he’ll do what I say!
Having it shipped to Aus is going to be a
bitch…..
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012
2:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG]
"Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
May the Lawgiver have mercy on you. But he
won't! >: (
A lobotomy would make better use of your
brain if you're going to use it such a way.
Sent:
Saturday,
February 25, 2012 8:14 AM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
Just traitor!
J
xoxoxox
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012
2:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG]
"Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
Sent:
Saturday,
February 25, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject:
RE: [PotaDG]
"Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
Hate to say it Jeff but I think HUGO will win (easily).
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012
12:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise"
vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
"Rise of the POTA" is still the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX
Oscar, despite recent momentum from "Harry Potter" (which won the
BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise) and "Hugo" (which has
history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among others). It all comes
down to Sunday. Just sayin'.
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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The spirit of the Lawgiver lives! We are still
Oscar's chosen. "Hugo" is a vision...and it is a LIE!
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
Hehehe!
I just purchased the
lawgiver statue from that dude in LA! So hell do what I
say!
Having it shipped to
Aus is going to be a bitch
..
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 2:35
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry"
vs. "Hugo"
May the Lawgiver have mercy
on you. But he won't! >: (
A lobotomy would make
better use of your brain if you're going to use it such a
way.
Sent:
Saturday,
February 25, 2012 8:14 AM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
Just traitor!
J
xoxoxox
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 2:10
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry"
vs. "Hugo"
Sent:
Saturday,
February 25, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
Hate to say it Jeff but
I think HUGO will win (easily).
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012 12:46
AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs.
"Hugo"
"Rise of the POTA" is still
the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from
"Harry Potter" (which won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise)
and "Hugo" (which has history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among
others). It all comes down to Sunday. Just
sayin'.
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Message: 61249 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Joe Letteri talks Oscars |
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Joe Letteri talks Oscars
If "Rise of the POTA" wins tonight, it will be
Joe Letteri's personal 5th Oscar as FX supervisor for Weta Digital (he's won for
"The Two Towers", "Return of the King", "King Kong" and "Avatar"). But he
acknowledges it's tough competition and doesn't just assume he'll win: "All the
work was really good. With "Hugo", the train; and in "The Transformers", the
robots...People vote for what they see, and all the movies did
well".
His co-nominees for "Rise", Dan Lemmon, R.
Christopher White and Daniel Barrett, are all first-timers. Good luck,
gentlemen.
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Message: 61250 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: The Oscar is dead. Long live the KING! |
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We should let 'em all die, "Hugo", every
last...
This is what it comes to. It's time it was
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Message: 61251 |
From: Neil Moxham |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
.htmlWhat statue/size is it?
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I just purchased the lawgiver statue from that dude in LA! So he'll do what
> I say!
>
>
>
> Having it shipped to Aus is going to be a bitch...
>
>
>
> Michael
>
> <.html
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From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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THE statue (I was lying!)
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012
11:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re:
"Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
What statue/size is it?
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I just purchased the lawgiver statue from that dude in LA! So he'll do
what
> I say!
>
>
>
> Having it shipped to Aus is going to be a bitch...
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
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Message: 61253 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" of the Saturn Awards |
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The awards madness continues. "Rise of the POTA"
got 5 Saturn Award nominations (half of what "Hugo" and "Harry Potter" got).
These are specifically for science fiction, fantasy and horror. "Rise" is
nominated for Best Science Fiction Film, Best Direction, Best Writing (that's
what I said, did I stutter?), Best Supporting Actor (Andy Serkis) and Best
FX.
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Message: 61254 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: R.I.P. "Conquest" cinematographer |
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Bruce Surtees, who photographed "Conquest of the
POTA", well, 40 years ago, has died. He also did a lot of Clint Eastwood
flicks.
While we're at it, R.I.P. Davy Jones of "The
Monkees". Because of their name and proximity to the POTA era it all kind of
runs together. Like "Lancelot Link".
But I shouldn't use the word
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Message: 61255 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
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Go here…
http://www.airship27.com/
Scroll down….
Art by Neil T. Foster
Turning in his first illustration job for Airship
27 Productions on this terrific new gun-blasting anthology is artist Neil T.
Foster. Above is a sample of his terrific work, an illustration from
Derrick Ferguson's story which kicks off the volume. Needless to say, Art
Director Rob Davis and the Air Chief both think we have as yet another fantastic
winner on our hands. Just one of the many we hope to release throughout
the year. So do keep coming back here, Loyal Airmen, because in all
honesty, if you like this stuff, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Neilrrific |
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Good work, Neil!
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:11 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Completelt
Different......
Go
here
http://www.airship27.com/
Scroll
down
.
Art by Neil T. Foster Turning in his first
illustration job for Airship 27 Productions on this terrific new gun-blasting
anthology is artist Neil T. Foster. Above is a sample of his terrific
work, an illustration from Derrick Ferguson's story which kicks off the
volume. Needless to say, Art Director Rob Davis and the Air Chief both
think we have as yet another fantastic winner on our hands. Just one of
the many we hope to release throughout the year. So do keep coming back
here, Loyal Airmen, because in all honesty, if you like this stuff, you ain't
seen nothing yet.
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Message: 61257 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61258 |
From: Tim |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
.html.html Awesome! Congrats Neil!!!!! Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:11 PM, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
Go here…
http://www.airship27.com/
Scroll down….
<image001.jpg>
Art by Neil T. Foster
Turning in his first illustration job for Airship
27 Productions on this terrific new gun-blasting anthology is artist Neil T.
Foster. Above is a sample of his terrific work, an illustration from
Derrick Ferguson's story which kicks off the volume. Needless to say, Art
Director Rob Davis and the Air Chief both think we have as yet another fantastic
winner on our hands. Just one of the many we hope to release throughout
the year. So do keep coming back here, Loyal Airmen, because in all
honesty, if you like this stuff, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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Message: 61259 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
.htmlCongratulations, Neil!! That's most awesome.
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:
Awesome! Congrats Neil!!!!! Tim
Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:11 PM, "Sal & Mick" <
smwhitty@...> wrote:
<image001.jpg>
Art by Neil T. Foster
Turning in his first illustration job for Airship
27 Productions on this terrific new gun-blasting anthology is artist Neil T.
Foster. Above is a sample of his terrific work, an illustration from
Derrick Ferguson's story which kicks off the volume. Needless to say, Art
Director Rob Davis and the Air Chief both think we have as yet another fantastic
winner on our hands. Just one of the many we hope to release throughout
the year. So do keep coming back here, Loyal Airmen, because in all
honesty, if you like this stuff, you ain't seen nothing yet.

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Message: 61260 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: And Now For Something Else.... |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61261 |
From: drzaiusdavis |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
.htmlCongrats Neil!!! Very cool. I still prefer apes & monsters but I'm glad you've got a real gig.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Go here.
>
>
>
> http://www.airship27.com/
>
>
>
> Scroll down..
>
>
>
>
> Art by Neil T. Foster
> Turning in his first illustration job for Airship 27 Productions on this
> terrific new gun-blasting anthology is artist Neil T. Foster. Above is a
> sample of his terrific work, an illustration from Derrick Ferguson's story
> which kicks off the volume. Needless to say, Art Director Rob Davis and the
> Air Chief both think we have as yet another fantastic winner on our hands.
> Just one of the many we hope to release throughout the year. So do keep
> coming back here, Loyal Airmen, because in all honesty, if you like this
> stuff, you ain't seen nothing yet.
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> =61253/stime=1330547811/nc1=3858795/nc2=5008814/nc3=3848621>
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
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Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] And Now For Something
Else....
I'm not crazy about the title ("Death of the
POTA") and it looks like it's been pushed back to 2013, which might be a big
year for POTA (new movie, merchandising, Boulle's 50th).
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:26 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Else....
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Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
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Very cool and great news. At first I thought that the comic was ready for purchase but it looks like its in the early stages. Any idea of when it will be ready?
Congrats Neal.
Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:11:57 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Completelt Different......
Go here…
http://www.airship27.com/
Scroll down….
Art by Neil T. Foster
Turning in his first illustration job for Airship 27 Productions on this terrific new gun-blasting anthology is artist Neil T. Foster. Above is a sample of his terrific work, an illustration from Derrick Ferguson's
story which kicks off the volume. Needless to say, Art Director Rob Davis and the Air Chief both think we have as yet another fantastic winner on our hands. Just one of the many we hope to release throughout the year.
So do keep coming back here, Loyal Airmen, because in all honesty, if you like this stuff, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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Message: 61264 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Completelt Different...... |
.htmlIt's not a comic it's a 4 story anthology and I provide 3 illustrations for each story.
Not sure when it will be ready but I know it won't be until after I finish the pictures as they are the final thing that needs completing! So far I've only turned in the first 3 finished illo's and have
penciled 2 of the second story's pictures, so still a while to go yet.
Neil T.
>Very cool and great news. At first I thought that the comic was ready for
purchase but it looks like its in the early stages. Any idea of when it will be
ready?
Congrats Neal.
Dario <.html
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From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
.htmlThe story sounds quite radical and a little bit controversial in places.
The bit about Taylor being in the Air Force in Korea and a 'mysterious and unknown craft' made me think of Patrick Tilton's POTA Opus he's been working on. I'm sure I read something about a crashed
alien spaceship scenario in his story synopsis?
If anyone can pull it off though, it will be Drew. He's already shown what he can do with the marvelous Conspiracy.
Neil T.
> From: Jeff K.
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:07 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Else....
>
>
> I'm not crazy about the title ("Death of the POTA") and it looks like it's been pushed back to 2013, which might be a big year for POTA (new movie, merchandising, Boulle's 50th).
>
>
> From: Sal & Mick
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:26 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Else....
>
>
>
>
> http://theconspiracyapes.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/death-of-planet-of-apes-teased.html"
>
>
> Neil - have you been told what Drew wants you to draw for this?
>
> Michael
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
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Sometimes you just have to let go and go ape.
We've already had "Alien Nation" on the POTA so there's no going down any
farther. I enjoyed "Conspiracy" but I didn't agree with everything. Just as I
didn't agree with everything in the original movies. But I think Drew has some
good ideas in his stories, and no one else has convinced Fox to publish new POTA
stories in book form.
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 4:52 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: And Now For Something
Else....
The story sounds quite radical and a little bit controversial in places.
The bit about Taylor being in the Air Force in Korea and a 'mysterious and
unknown craft' made me think of Patrick Tilton's POTA Opus he's been working on.
I'm sure I read something about a crashed alien spaceship scenario in his story
synopsis?
If anyone can pull it off though, it will be Drew. He's already
shown what he can do with the marvelous Conspiracy.
Neil T.
>
From: Jeff K. > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:07 AM > To:
title="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com
CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com >
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Else.... > > >
I'm not crazy about the title ("Death of the POTA") and it looks like it's been
pushed back to 2013, which might be a big year for POTA (new movie,
merchandising, Boulle's 50th). > > > From: Sal & Mick
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:26 AM > To: href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com >
Subject: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Else.... > > >
> >
href="http://theconspiracyapes.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/death-of-planet-of-apes-teased.htmlquot;>http://theconspiracyapes.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/death-of-planet-of-apes-teased.htmlbr>
>
> > Neil - have you been told what Drew wants you to draw for
this? > > Michael >
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Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
.htmlHey Guys -
All I can say is that in a teaser, things are not all they may seem - if I were to reveal the entire plot, and clarify the things that are controversy, you would most like state something to the effect of , "Ah, I
see what you did there!" . But if iI explain it all now, then well, what's there to be excited about when it 's released?
To recap the questions I see floating around:
Neil has not received a test piece yet, as no art is being assigned until the Fall.
The Korea thing comes from the Blu Ray ANSA reel -parts of which you will discover are true, parts of which you will see were lies to cover certain things up.
It is also stated in Rich Handley's awesome reference books - which act as my bibles to all POTA WORK.
I have stayed far away from fan theories when constructing this tale - and if you loved Conspiracy, you will love Death (wow that just sounds wrong).
-Drew G.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> The story sounds quite radical and a little bit controversial in places.
> The bit about Taylor being in the Air Force in Korea and a 'mysterious and unknown craft' made me think of Patrick Tilton's POTA Opus he's been working on. I'm sure I read something about a
crashed alien spaceship scenario in his story synopsis?
>
> If anyone can pull it off though, it will be Drew. He's already shown what he can do with the marvelous Conspiracy.
>
> Neil T.
>
>
> > From: Jeff K.
> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:07 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Else....
> >
> >
> > I'm not crazy about the title ("Death of the POTA") and it looks like it's been pushed back to 2013, which might be a big year for POTA (new movie, merchandising, Boulle's 50th).
> >
> >
> > From: Sal & Mick
> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:26 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] And Now For Something Else....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://theconspiracyapes.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/death-of-planet-of-apes-teased.html
> >
> >
> > Neil - have you been told what Drew wants you to draw for this?
> >
> > Michael
> >
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Message: 61268 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: And Now For Something Else.... |
.htmlThat's what I thought when I read that too... "Area 51" and all of that...
In a message dated 3/4/2012 6:52:35 AM Central Standard Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
> The bit about Taylor being in the Air Force in Korea and a 'mysterious
> and unknown craft' made me think of Patrick Tilton's POTA Opus he's been
> working on. I'm sure I read something about a crashed alien spaceship scenario
> in his story synopsis?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61269 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
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5th March (which has just
passed here but is now just arriving in the US/UK!).
Michael
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Message: 61270 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
.htmlHappy B'day mate!
Thanks for clearing up the Pulp 'comic' format. Even if it only has a few pages of art, I'm still interested so be sure to let us know when it becomes available.
Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 11:53:12 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr Foster!
5 th March (which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the US/UK!).
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Message: 61271 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
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Happy Birthday Neil and congrats on the good
stuff coming your way. You deserve it.
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:53 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr Foster!
5th March
(which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the
US/UK!).
Michael
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Message: 61272 |
From: Graham |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
.htmlHappy, belated, wishes Neil.
(I've been off-line for the last few days:(
sorry I missed your B'day hope it was a good one)
Best,Graham.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote: > > Happy B'day mate!
> > Thanks for clearing up the Pulp 'comic' format. Even if it only has a few pages of art, I'm still interested so be sure to let us know when it becomes available. > > Dario
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sal & Mick" smwhitty@... > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 11:53:12 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr Foster! > > > > > > > 5 th March (which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the US/UK!). > >
> > Michael >
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Message: 61273 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
.htmlApey Birthday Neil. Hope you had a great day!!
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Graham <shop@...> wrote:
Happy, belated, wishes Neil.
(I've been off-line for the last few days:(
sorry I missed your B'day hope it was a good one)
Best,Graham.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote: > > Happy B'day mate!
> > Thanks for clearing up the Pulp 'comic' format. Even if it only has a few pages of art, I'm still interested so be sure to let us know when it becomes available. > > Dario >
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sal & Mick" smwhitty@... > To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 11:53:12 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr Foster! > > > > > > > 5 th March (which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the US/UK!). > > >
> Michael >
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Message: 61274 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
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Happy birthday Neil, enjoy your belated birthday.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster!
Apey Birthday Neil. Hope you had a great day!!
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Graham <shop@...>
wrote:
Happy, belated, wishes Neil.
(I've been off-line for the last few days:(
sorry I missed your B'day hope it was a good one)
Best,Graham.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Happy B'day mate!
>
> Thanks for clearing up the Pulp 'comic' format. Even if it only has a few pages of art, I'm still interested so be sure to let us know when it becomes available.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sal & Mick" smwhitty@...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 11:53:12 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr Foster!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 5 th March (which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the US/UK!).
>
>
>
> Michael
>
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Message: 61275 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
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Hope it was a good one Neil!! Tim
From: "PofTAfan@..." <PofTAfan@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Monday, March 5, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster!
H
appy birthday Neil, enjoy your belated birthday.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster!
Apey Birthday Neil. Hope you had a great day!!
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Graham <shop@...
> wrote:
Happy, belated, wishes Neil.
(I've been off-line for the last few days:(
sorry I missed your B'day hope it was a good one)
Best,Graham.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Happy B'day mate!
>
> Thanks for clearing up the Pulp 'comic' format. Even if it only has a few pages of art, I'm still interested so be sure to let us know when it becomes available.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sal & Mick" smwhitty@...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 11:53:12 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Mr Foster!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 5 th March (which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the US/UK!).
>
>
>
> Michael
>
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Message: 61276 |
From: drzaiusdavis |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
.htmlYou're still my favorite Apes artist. Happy Birthday Neil!!
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> 5th March (which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the
> US/UK!).
>
>
>
> Michael
> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61277 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/5/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr Foster! |
.htmlThanks everyone, much appreciated! Sheesh, yet another year older, where does it all go!?!
Neil T
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "drzaiusdavis" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> You're still my favorite Apes artist. Happy Birthday Neil!!
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > 5th March (which has just passed here but is now just arriving in the
> > US/UK!).
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61278 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/6/2012 |
| Subject: Ape Trek |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61279 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/6/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
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| Reminder from: |
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PotaDG Yahoo! Group |
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| Title: |
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Arthur P. Jacobs' Birthday |
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| Date: |
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Wednesday March 7, 2012 |
| Time: |
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All Day
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| Repeats: |
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This event repeats every year. |
| Notes: |
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Happy Birthday Arthur! (Producer: Planet of the Apes (1968) Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971)
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973))
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61280 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: POTA marathon pics |
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pics from the recent all day POTA marathon....from Lee Parmeter....is that you Kevin as Julius?
http://www.filmfetish.com/2012/03/06/images-from-a-planet-of-the-apes-marathon-and-panel-event/
Tim
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61281 |
From: Dario |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: Re: POTA marathon pics |
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Thanks Tim. I really wanted to see what the attendees look like today. Not bad at all considering how long ago they were in the various POTA movies.
Dario
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:17 PM, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
pics from the recent all day POTA marathon....from Lee Parmeter....is that you Kevin as Julius?
Tim
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61282 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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| Reminder from: |
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PotaDG Yahoo! Group |
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| Title: |
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POTA Makeup Test |
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| Date: |
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Thursday March 8, 2012 |
| Time: |
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All Day
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| Repeats: |
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This event repeats every year. |
| Notes: |
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On this day in 1966 the original Planet of the Apes Makeup test featuring Edward G. Robinson as Dr. Zaius was filmed, paving the way for the filming of the movie Planet of the
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61283 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/7/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61284 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/8/2012 |
| Subject: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
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Wait for it.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61285 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/8/2012 |
| Subject: Re: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:30 PM
Subject: trailer for Paul Williams doc
Wait for it.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61286 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/9/2012 |
| Subject: Re: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
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Haha...LOVE the very end! Kept wondering if they were gonna mention Virgil at all!
WOuld love to see that whole interview.....maybe the Carson people will release it now...! Thanks Jeff! Tim
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Friday, March 9, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [PotaDG]
Re: trailer for Paul Williams doc
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/watch-paul-williams-still-alive-trailer-makes-its-debut-on-the-eve-of-sxsw
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:30 PM
Subject: trailer for Paul Williams doc
Wait for it.
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/watch-paul
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61287 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/9/2012 |
| Subject: Re: trailer for Paul Williams doc |
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If they got the rights to the interview maybe
they can put the whole thing as a DVD extra.
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: trailer for Paul Williams
doc
Haha...LOVE the very end! Kept wondering if they were gonna mention
Virgil at all!
WOuld love to see that whole interview.....maybe the Carson people
will release it now...!
Thanks Jeff! Tim
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To:
pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 12:37
AM Subject: [PotaDG] Re:
trailer for Paul Williams doc
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:30 PM
Subject: trailer for Paul Williams doc
Wait for it.
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/watch-paul
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61288 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/11/2012 |
| Subject: (no subject) |
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a Mondo gallery showing....
http://www.slashfilm.com/photos-mondo-opens-gallery-scifi-show-including-star-trek-dune-akira/
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61289 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/11/2012 |
| Subject: Exile preview |
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11732
Enjoy! Tim
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61290 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/11/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
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WOW!!!! YAY!!!!!!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012 10:26
AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] Exile preview
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61291 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/12/2012 |
| Subject: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
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"Yeah. Me Tarzan, you Jane". - - - Taylor to
Nova, "Planet of the Apes"
This year marks the 100th anniversaries of both
"John Carter of Mars" and "Tarzan of the Apes", the one-two punch of writer
Edgar Rice Burroughs. "John Carter" debuted in the story "Under the
Moon of Mars" beginning in the February 1912 issue of "All-Story" magazine (the
same month Pierre Boulle was born) and ran until July. It was soon published as
the book "A Princess of Mars". Burroughs didn't invent science-fiction but it's
possible he first popularized the "space opera" genre and was a big influence on
"Star Wars", "Star Trek", "Avatar" and perhaps even POTA. Guys like Arthur
C. Clarke, Ray Bradbury, Carl Sagan and many others were inspired by "John
Carter".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm79MK6oGr0
http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1219006p1.html"
Of course a big, expensive "John Carter" movie
just opened this weekend. I've seen it and it has it's moments of sci-fi fun but
gets bogged down in explaining it's world. It can't get out of it's own way.
That said, I enjoyed it on it's own terms and seeing a story brought to life
that so many other movies have borrowed from. And I got a kick out of their use
of Lake Powell as a location. Certain scenes will resonate with POTA fans, I
think. With a $250 million + budget (presumably some of that was eating
development costs from earlier attempts), confused marketing and well, some
problems as a film, it's looking like it could be a big bomb and put risky
sci-fi in the doghouse for a bit. But it did make an estimated $100 million
worldwide this weekend so there's hope. Pixar genius and "John Carter" fan
Andrew Stanton blew his wad getting this made and it's too bad it's not a better
flick.
After 100 years this is the first time it's
reached the screen, not that they haven't tried (Burroughs himself asked Douglas
Fairbanks to play John Carter in 1924). That's definitely not the case with
Burroughs' most famous character, Tarzan, who has had a long career in movies
and TV, starting in 1918 ("Tarzan of the Apes" debuted in the October 1912
"All-Story"; the publishers were so crazy about it they published the whole
story in that issue). And Warner Bros. reportedly has another
version up their sleeve (
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=47856
). In it's own way, "Tarzan" seems like a proto-POTA. The apes have something of
a primitive civilization with their own language ("Tarzan" means "white skin" in
Apespeak) and rituals. It's kind of interesting that Pierre Boulle and Tarzan
were born the same year since POTA kinda takes "Tarzan" one step further.
Burroughs was interested in evolution and what the concept of "civilization"
means. And he certainly had a thing for apes, whether the armor-wearing gorillas
in his "Pellucidar" series or even the white apes in "John Carter".
Respect!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61292 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Terror on the POTA in colour |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 61293 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
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Good find Neil! WOW! Is that painted?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012
7:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Terror on the
POTA in colour
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61294 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
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This and the last mini series really do have some of the best POTA comic art ever. The story for Betrayal was superb too as I'm sure Exile will be as well if this preview is anything to
go by. What a pity their main POTA title is so bad.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> WOW!!!! YAY!!!!!!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of
> Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012 10:26 AM
> To: POTA; POTA DG
> Subject: [PotaDG] Exile preview
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview
> <http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11732> &id=11732
>
>
>
>
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Tim
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61295 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
.htmlYes it's done with watercolours, it mentions that in the description.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Good find Neil! WOW! Is that painted?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of
> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 7:52 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Terror on the POTA in colour
>
>
>
>
>
> Well one page at least and no not the latest reprints. I found this page
> coloured by Mike Ploog as an experiment. If only he could have done the
> whole thing, how great would that have been! Check it out here:-
>
> http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=848981
> <http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=848981&GSub=125280>
> &GSub=125280
>
> Neil T.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61296 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
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Uhhhh, yeah…..if you can READ!!! J
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012
8:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Terror on
the POTA in colour
Yes it's done with watercolours, it mentions that in
the description.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Good find Neil! WOW! Is that painted?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 7:52 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Terror on the POTA in colour
>
>
>
>
>
> Well one page at least and no not the latest reprints. I found this page
> coloured by Mike Ploog as an experiment. If only he could have done the
> whole thing, how great would that have been! Check it out here:-
>
> http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=848981
> <
href="http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=848981&GSub=125280">http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=848981&GSub=125280>
> &GSub=125280
>
> Neil T.
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61297 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
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I know right? The story for BETRAYAL was
good too – not mind-blowing but really good.
Looks like the writers are also on track
for this one.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012
8:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Exile
preview
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61298 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
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PS if the main series is spinning the
funds to justify the one-offs then I’ll keep buying it!!!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012
8:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Exile
preview
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From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
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Well I'm one fan who has stopped wasting their money on it. Never thought I would ever stop buying a current POTA comic but I just can not stand the regular series and won't buy any
more issues of it.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> PS if the main series is spinning the funds to justify the one-offs then I'll keep buying it!!! <.html
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Message: 61300 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/13/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Exile preview |
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I met the writer and artist of "Betrayal"
(married couple). He (Gabriel Hardman) was offered the job doing the storyboards
for the "Rise of the POTA" sequel but doesn't know if he'll have time (comics
come first). But they are both big Apes fans and jumped at the chance to do the
comics. And they wanted to do it in the era of the original movie.
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Exile preview
I know right? The
story for BETRAYAL was good too not mind-blowing but really
good.
Looks like the writers
are also on track for this one.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of munkeyman63au Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 8:00
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject:
[PotaDG] Re: Exile
preview
This and
the last mini series really do have some of the best POTA comic art ever. The
story for Betrayal was superb too as I'm sure Exile will be as well if this
preview is anything to go by. What a pity their main POTA title is so
bad.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal &
Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
> > WOW!!!! YAY!!!!!! >
> > > _____ > > From: href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Tim "apefan" > Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012 10:26
AM
> To: POTA; POTA DG > Subject: [PotaDG] Exile preview >
> > > > > href="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview">http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview
>
<http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11732>
&id=11732
> > > > > >
Enjoy!
> > Tim >
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From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
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Nice!
Did you do an interview?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012
2:11 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Exile
preview
I met the writer and artist of "Betrayal"
(married couple). He (Gabriel Hardman) was offered the job doing the
storyboards for the "Rise of the POTA" sequel but doesn't know if
he'll have time (comics come first). But they are both big Apes fans and jumped
at the chance to do the comics. And they wanted to do it in the era of the
original movie.
Sent:
Tuesday,
March 13, 2012 3:22 PM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] Re: Exile preview
I know right? The story for BETRAYAL was good too – not
mind-blowing but really good.
Looks like the writers are also on track for this one.
Michael
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012
8:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Exile preview
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Message: 61302 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
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No. But he drew the gorilla with the eye patch
for me. : )
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Exile preview
Nice!
Did you do an
interview?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 2:11
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] Re: Exile
preview
I met the writer and artist
of "Betrayal" (married couple). He (Gabriel Hardman) was offered the job doing
the storyboards for the "Rise of the POTA" sequel but doesn't know if he'll have
time (comics come first). But they are both big Apes fans and jumped at the
chance to do the comics. And they wanted to do it in the era of the original
movie.
Sent:
Tuesday,
March 13, 2012 3:22 PM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] Re: Exile preview
I know right? The
story for BETRAYAL was good too not mind-blowing but really
good.
Looks like the
writers are also on track for this one.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 8:00
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject:
[PotaDG] Re: Exile
preview
This and
the last mini series really do have some of the best POTA comic art ever. The
story for Betrayal was superb too as I'm sure Exile will be as well if this
preview is anything to go by. What a pity their main POTA title is so
bad.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sal &
Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
> > WOW!!!! YAY!!!!!! >
> > > _____ > > From: href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Tim "apefan" > Sent: Monday, 12 March
2012 10:26 AM
> To: POTA; POTA DG > Subject: [PotaDG] Exile
preview
> > > > > >
href="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview">http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview
>
<http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11732>
&id=11732
> > > > > >
Enjoy!
> >
Tim
>
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Message: 61303 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Paul Williams doc in theaters in June |
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The Paul ("Virgil") Williams revival has "only
just begun". The documentary about him is scheduled to hit theaters in June
(including a brand new Paul Williams song). He's working with Daft Punk, he's
the prez of ASCAP... All that's missing is a "Rise 2" cameo.
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Message: 61304 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
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That is beautiful!
--- On Tue, 3/13/12, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...> wrote:
From: munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...> Subject: [PotaDG] Terror on the POTA in colour To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 5:51 PM
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Message: 61305 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Still funny! |
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Message: 61306 |
From: Dario |
Date: 3/14/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Terror on the POTA in colour |
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Great find Neal. I find it fascinating that he used just a few colours, and yet it looks just perfect. As you say, if only he could have coloured them all.
Dario
On Mar 13, 2012, at 5:51 PM, "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> Well one page at least and no not the latest reprints. I found this page coloured by Mike Ploog as an experiment. If only he could have done the whole thing, how great would that have been! Check it out here:-
>
> http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=848981&GSub=125280
>
> Neil T.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message: 61307 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/16/2012 |
| Subject: The road to POTA2001 |
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Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:22 AM
Subject: The road to POTA2001
Here's a rundown of the development of POTA in
the '90's, courtesy of the book "Tales From Development Hell".
While we're at it, here's the trailer for Burton's
latest, "Dark Shadows" (with Jackie Earle "Kraik" Haley).
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Message: 61308 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/17/2012 |
| Subject: Caesar figure |
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Message: 61309 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/19/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
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| Reminder from: |
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PotaDG Yahoo! Group |
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Frank Capra Jr.'s Birthday |
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Tuesday March 20, 2012 |
| Time: |
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All Day
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Happy Birthday Frank! (Associate producer: Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971), Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) &
Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973)) |
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Message: 61310 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/20/2012 |
| Subject: OT: former POTA producer James Cameron in deep |
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James Cameron, who tried to get his own POTA
going in the '90's and whose "Avatar" paved the way technologically for "Rise of
the POTA", is diving into the deep end. Like the deepest spot in the ocean.
Challenger Deep, in the Mariana Trench off the Philippines, has been visited by
humans once before, in 1960. Other than that, Cameron will go deeper than anyone
ever, 6.8 miles down. The dive is expected today, weather permitting. Cameron
will scrunch into his one-man sub for 9 hours and take pretty pictures
(3D, of course) and samples for the rest of us. When they nominated
him for the big one, he couldn't turn it down.
Good luck, Jim!
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Message: 61311 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/21/2012 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
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Message: 61312 |
From: Neil Moxham |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
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Plus, John Carter was Charlton Heston's real name. I'm surprised at you Jeff, missing a connection like that! ;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
>
> "Yeah. Me Tarzan, you Jane". - - - Taylor to Nova, "Planet of the Apes"
>
> This year marks the 100th anniversaries of both "John Carter of Mars" and "Tarzan of the Apes", the one-two punch of writer Edgar Rice Burroughs. "John Carter" debuted in the story
"Under the Moon of Mars" beginning in the February 1912 issue of "All-Story" magazine (the same month Pierre Boulle was born) and ran until July. It was soon published as the book "A Princess of
Mars". Burroughs didn't invent science-fiction but it's possible he first popularized the "space opera" genre and was a big influence on "Star Wars", "Star Trek",
"Avatar" and perhaps even POTA. Guys like Arthur C. Clarke, Ray Bradbury, Carl Sagan and many others were inspired by "John Carter".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm79MK6oGr0
http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1219006p1.html"
> Of course a big, expensive "John Carter" movie just opened this weekend. I've seen it and it has it's moments of sci-fi fun but gets bogged down in explaining it's world. It can't get out
of it's own way. That said, I enjoyed it on it's own terms and seeing a story brought to life that so many other movies have borrowed from. And I got a kick out of their use of Lake Powell as a location. Certain
scenes will resonate with POTA fans, I think. With a $250 million + budget (presumably some of that was eating development costs from earlier attempts), confused marketing and well, some problems as a film, it's
looking like it could be a big bomb and put risky sci-fi in the doghouse for a bit. But it did make an estimated $100 million worldwide this weekend so there's hope. Pixar genius and "John Carter" fan
Andrew Stanton blew his wad getting this made and it's too bad it's not a better flick.
> After 100 years this is the first time it's reached the screen, not that they haven't tried (Burroughs himself asked Douglas Fairbanks to play John Carter in 1924). That's definitely not the case with
Burroughs' most famous character, Tarzan, who has had a long career in movies and TV, starting in 1918 ("Tarzan of the Apes" debuted in the October 1912 "All-Story"; the publishers were so crazy
about it they published the whole story in that issue). And Warner Bros. reportedly has another version up their sleeve (
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=47856
). In it's own way, "Tarzan" seems like a proto-POTA. The apes have something of a primitive civilization with their own language ("Tarzan" means "white skin" in Apespeak) and
rituals. It's kind of interesting that Pierre Boulle and Tarzan were born the same year since POTA kinda takes "Tarzan" one step further. Burroughs was interested in evolution and what the concept of
"civilization" means. And he certainly had a thing for apes, whether the armor-wearing gorillas in his "Pellucidar" series or even the white apes in "John Carter".
> Respect!
> <.html
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Message: 61313 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
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“John Carter” is getting some
TERRIBLE reviews!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 8:17
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT:
"John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction
Plus, John Carter was Charlton Heston's real name. I'm
surprised at you Jeff, missing a connection like that! ;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
>
> "Yeah. Me Tarzan, you Jane". - - -
w:st="on">Taylor to Nova, "Planet of the
Apes"
>
> This year marks the 100th anniversaries of both "John Carter of
Mars" and "Tarzan of the Apes", the one-two punch of writer
Edgar Rice Burroughs. "John Carter" debuted in the story "Under
the Moon of Mars" beginning in the February 1912 issue of
"All-Story" magazine (the same month Pierre Boulle was born) and ran
until July. It was soon published as the book "A Princess of Mars".
Burroughs didn't invent science-fiction but it's possible he first popularized
the "space opera" genre and was a big influence on "Star
Wars", "Star Trek", "Avatar" and perhaps even POTA.
Guys like Arthur C. Clarke, Ray Bradbury, Carl Sagan and many others were inspired
by "John Carter". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm79MK6oGr0
http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1219006p1.html"
> Of course a big, expensive "John Carter" movie just opened this
weekend. I've seen it and it has it's moments of sci-fi fun but gets bogged
down in explaining it's world. It can't get out of it's own way. That said, I
enjoyed it on it's own terms and seeing a story brought to life that so many
other movies have borrowed from. And I got a kick out of their use of
Lake Powell
as a location. Certain scenes will resonate with POTA fans, I think. With a
$250 million + budget (presumably some of that was eating development costs
from earlier attempts), confused marketing and well, some problems as a film,
it's looking like it could be a big bomb and put risky sci-fi in the doghouse
for a bit. But it did make an estimated $100 million worldwide this weekend so
there's hope. Pixar genius and "John Carter" fan Andrew Stanton blew
his wad getting this made and it's too bad it's not a better flick.
> After 100 years this is the first time it's reached the screen, not that
they haven't tried (Burroughs himself asked Douglas Fairbanks to play John
Carter in 1924). That's definitely not the case with Burroughs' most famous
character, Tarzan, who has had a long career in movies and TV, starting in 1918
("Tarzan of the Apes" debuted in the October 1912
"All-Story"; the publishers were so crazy about it they published the
whole story in that issue). And Warner Bros. reportedly has another version up
their sleeve ( http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=47856
). In it's own way, "Tarzan" seems like a proto-POTA. The apes have
something of a primitive civilization with their own language
("Tarzan" means "white skin" in Apespeak) and rituals. It's
kind of interesting that Pierre Boulle and Tarzan were born the same year since
POTA kinda takes "Tarzan" one step further. Burroughs was interested
in evolution and what the concept of "civilization" means. And he
certainly had a thing for apes, whether the armor-wearing gorillas in his
"Pellucidar" series or even the white apes in "John Carter".
> Respect!
>
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Message: 61314 |
From: Dario |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
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The reviews that count in my book, the reviews from people who all grew up reading all the books in the series, all seem to be unanimously in favor of the movie. I really want to see it. I would have gone already
had not my own son betrayed me by going ahead and watching it with one of his friends already. Now I'll just wait until it comes out on DVD.
Dario
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:13 PM, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
"John Carter" is getting some
TERRIBLE reviews!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 8:17
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT:
"John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction
Plus, John Carter was Charlton Heston's real name. I'm
surprised at you Jeff, missing a connection like that! ;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
>
> "Yeah. Me Tarzan, you Jane". - - - Taylor to Nova, "Planet of the
Apes"
>
> This year marks the 100th anniversaries of both "John Carter of
Mars" and "Tarzan of the Apes", the one-two punch of writer
Edgar Rice Burroughs. "John Carter" debuted in the story "Under
the Moon of Mars" beginning in the February 1912 issue of
"All-Story" magazine (the same month Pierre Boulle was born) and ran
until July. It was soon published as the book "A Princess of Mars".
Burroughs didn't invent science-fiction but it's possible he first popularized
the "space opera" genre and was a big influence on "Star
Wars", "Star Trek", "Avatar" and perhaps even POTA.
Guys like Arthur C. Clarke, Ray Bradbury, Carl Sagan and many others were inspired
by "John Carter".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm79MK6oGr0
http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1219006p1.html"
> Of course a big, expensive "John Carter" movie just opened this
weekend. I've seen it and it has it's moments of sci-fi fun but gets bogged
down in explaining it's world. It can't get out of it's own way. That said, I
enjoyed it on it's own terms and seeing a story brought to life that so many
other movies have borrowed from. And I got a kick out of their use of Lake Powell
as a location. Certain scenes will resonate with POTA fans, I think. With a
$250 million + budget (presumably some of that was eating development costs
from earlier attempts), confused marketing and well, some problems as a film,
it's looking like it could be a big bomb and put risky sci-fi in the doghouse
for a bit. But it did make an estimated $100 million worldwide this weekend so
there's hope. Pixar genius and "John Carter" fan Andrew Stanton blew
his wad getting this made and it's too bad it's not a better flick.
> After 100 years this is the first time it's reached the screen, not that
they haven't tried (Burroughs himself asked Douglas Fairbanks to play John
Carter in 1924). That's definitely not the case with Burroughs' most famous
character, Tarzan, who has had a long career in movies and TV, starting in 1918
("Tarzan of the Apes" debuted in the October 1912
"All-Story"; the publishers were so crazy about it they published the
whole story in that issue). And Warner Bros. reportedly has another version up
their sleeve (
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/debbiedowner/news/?a=47856
). In it's own way, "Tarzan" seems like a proto-POTA. The apes have
something of a primitive civilization with their own language
("Tarzan" means "white skin" in Apespeak) and rituals. It's
kind of interesting that Pierre Boulle and Tarzan were born the same year since
POTA kinda takes "Tarzan" one step further. Burroughs was interested
in evolution and what the concept of "civilization" means. And he
certainly had a thing for apes, whether the armor-wearing gorillas in his
"Pellucidar" series or even the white apes in "John Carter".
> Respect!
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61315 |
From: munkeyman63au |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
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I've heard whispers that there are some very underhand tactics going on. Apparently certain companies that own other sci-fi franchises are doing all they can behind the scenes to have
the movie portrayed as a flop. Allegedly they have been spreading lies about it so it doesn't have the chance to become a popular franchise that could affect the profits of their own. I have also heard from fans of
the original Burroughs books that it is pretty damn good.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario <darios@...> wrote:
>
> The reviews that count in my book, the reviews from people who all grew up reading all the books in the series, all seem to be unanimously in favor of the movie. I really want to see it. I would have gone already
had not my own son betrayed me by going ahead and watching it with one of his friends already. Now I'll just wait until it comes out on DVD.
>
> Dario
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:13 PM, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > âJohn Carterâ is getting some TERRIBLE reviews! <.html
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Message: 61316 |
From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 3/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
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Well, I'm a fan of the original. Neil
– we have a mission!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of munkeyman63au
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 1:44
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT:
"John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction
I've heard whispers that there are some very underhand
tactics going on. Apparently certain companies that own other sci-fi franchises
are doing all they can behind the scenes to have the movie portrayed as a flop.
Allegedly they have been spreading lies about it so it doesn't have the chance
to become a popular franchise that could affect the profits of their own. I
have also heard from fans of the original Burroughs books that it is pretty
damn good.
Neil T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
Dario <darios@...> wrote:
>
> The reviews that count in my book, the reviews from people who all grew up
reading all the books in the series, all seem to be unanimously in favor of the
movie. I really want to see it. I would have gone already had not my own son
betrayed me by going ahead and watching it with one of his friends already. Now
I'll just wait until it comes out on DVD.
>
> Dario
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:13 PM, "Sal & Mick" <smwhitty@...>
wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > “John Carter†is getting some TERRIBLE reviews!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 61317 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science fiction |
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I don't think other studios were ever very
worried about it. It's been a movie with problems for a long time. And Disney
just doesn't know what to do with sci-fi. It basically had the same fate as
"Tron 2" (but cost a hell of a lot more). The movie was OK but it should have
been better for $250 million. Once again, script, script, script. And the
marketing was bland.
Disney has already announced it's a $200 million
loss.
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:43 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "John Carter" and the evolution of science
fiction
I've heard whispers that there are some very underhand tactics going on.
Apparently certain companies that own other sci-fi franchises are doing all they
can behind the scenes to have the movie portrayed as a flop. Allegedly they have
been spreading lies about it so it doesn't have the chance to become a popular
franchise that could affect the profits of their own. I have also heard from
fans of the original Burroughs books that it is pretty damn good.
Neil
T.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario
<darios@...> wrote:
> > The reviews that count in my book, the
reviews from people who all grew up reading all the books in the series, all
seem to be unanimously in favor of the movie. I really want to see it. I would
have gone already had not my own son betrayed me by going ahead and watching it
with one of his friends already. Now I'll just wait until it comes out on
DVD. > > Dario > > Sent from my iPad > >
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wrote: > > > > > > > âJohn Carterâ is
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As I write this, former POTA producer James
Cameron is 7 miles down in the Challenger Deep, the lowest point of the ocean
(deeper than the ascent to the tallest mountain, Mt. Everest). I guess he's the
3rd person to go down that deep; the first two were in 1960. It's cool to see a
science fiction fan and practitioner make real science. Say what you will about
Cameron's films, but he's pushed the boundaries of film technology. "Rise"
director Rupert Wyatt said his film wouldn't have been possible without
Avatar's advances. Cameron wanted to do a POTA film in the '90's and according
to him it was Fox who spoiled the party and went in a Burtonian direction. So
I'll always consider Cameron part of the POTA family and am rooting for him on
this historic dive. He's bringing back lots of pictures.
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"Rise of the POTA" was up for 4 awards from
"Empire" magazine but came up empty. It was up for Best Picture ("Harry Potter"
won), Best Sci-Fi Film ("Thor" won), Best Actor (for Andy Serkis; Gary Oldman
won for "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy") and Best Director ("Harry Potter"
director David Yates won). Anyway, "Harry Potter" is done and POTA is just
getting warmed up, so "Harry" won't have POTA to kick around any
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> The story sounds quite radical and a little bit controversial in places.
> The bit about Taylor being in the Air Force in Korea and a 'mysterious and unknown craft' made me think of Patrick Tilton's POTA Opus he's been working on. I'm sure I read something about a
crashed alien spaceship scenario in his story synopsis? > > Neil T. __________________________________________________________
***In my POTA Opus, I've been trying to delve into more backstory based on elements in the established 5-film/14-episode 'canon'. Among these are:
1. Hasslein's mention of the U.S.A.'s attempt to assassinate Hitler, 2. The derelict oil tanker on which Lewis Dixon played as a kid, and
3. The outrageous notion that the U.S.A. could send a spaceship across interstellar distances as early as 1972.
In my own private reading, I've been interested in a whole host of 'fringe'-type topics, including the so-called Hitler Survival Myth. There's recent evidence that the skull that's supposed to be
that of Adolf Hitler was DNA tested... and found to be that of a female. Hmm...
If Hitler did
survive the fall of Berlin, where might he have gone? Well, in the late 1930's the Nazis sent an expedition to Antarctica, which they claimed for the Third Reich. A ship called Schwabenland
sent out planes that dropped loads and loads of Nazi flags all over the territory called Queen Maud Land (by the Norskies), which the Germans renamed Neuschwabenland
-- just south of South Africa, and including that part of the coast of Antarctica that shares the same longitude as Berlin.
Interestingly enough, the ordinary swastika emblem is supposed to be a representation of the Earth as seen from above the North Polar region, the inner cross representing the crossing of two great circles
longitudinally perpendicular to each other over the pole, with the outer 90-degree attachments representing the circular movement of those geodetic line-arcs caused by the Earth's rotation. The Nazi swastika,
however, is a mirror image of the ancient version... which might suggest that the Nazi swastika represents the South Polar region. Which, you'll recall, the Nazis claimed for the Third Reich in the late 1930's.
After two U-boats were captured off the coast of Argentina in 1946 -- months after they were supposed to have complied with their orders to surrender to the Allies -- U.S. military intelligence interrogated their
crews... and, soon after, the U.S. Navy sent an expedition to Antarctica during the south hemisphere summer [i.e. when it was winter in the northern hemisphere], from late-1946 to early-1947. Called Operation HIGHJUMP,
it was commanded by the most experienced polar explorer, Admiral Richard Byrd.
A lot of weird things are said about that expedition... including the notion that they encountered disc-shaped aircraft that could fly from pole-to-pole. How much of this speculation is true, or just UFO-buff
conspiracy theory... well, who knows? It was only a few months later, after HIGHJUMP was cut short prematurely (in March 1947), that the first major wave of UFO sightings swept America, including the infamous Roswell
Incident of June/July 1947.
Years ago, when I was researching some of this wacko-yet-interesting stuff, it occurred to me that the name of the Operation -- "HIGHJUMP" -- was a track-and-field sport implying the ability
to ascend to great heights. Hmm... might that be a reference to aircraft possessing greater 'lift' abilities than any known man-made aircraft? Maybe?
And then it occurred to me that there is another track-and-field sport that is called the POLE VAULT... and my creative juices got to flowing...
So, I came up with the idea that George Taylor, years before he became a Colonel and commanded the Orion Mission flight to an unnamed planet orbiting in another solar system 320 light-years away, had served in the
USAAF during World War II, flying a B-52 affectionately called "The Taylor Maid"
(with appropriate cheesecake nosecone art). And, after the War was supposed to be officially over, and Taylor had been discharged from the USAAF, he is forced to rejoin in order to take part in the secret mission to
kill Hitler... who, it turns out, did not
commit suicide in his Berlin fuhrer-bunker, but had managed to escape to a U-boat base in Denmark and, thence, made his way to a secret Nazi base that had been dubbed "Neu Berlin"... situated on the
continent of Antarctica.
The fleet of ships that made its way to the Antarctic base known as "Little America" (as part of Operation HIGHJUMP) split into two forces, an East Group and a West Group... both groups going around the
coast of Antarctica (one eastward, the other westward) and converging on the Neuschwabenland area, where the Nazis supposedly had established a New Berlin on the same longitude as the newly-destroyed Berlin in Germany.
Incidentally, one of the two oil tankers that were part of HIGHJUMP's fleet will wind up at the McKinley and Sons Naval Scrapyard
, where Zira, Cornelius, Salome and Hasslein will lose their lives in 1973...
In my scenario, Taylor commands a crew on his B-52, The Taylor Maid
, landing it first on the "Little America" base's landing strip that the HIGHJUMP people had prepped prior to their Eastward and Westward pincer-moves around the coast of Antarctica... and then, after
loading up enough fuel for a flight across the entire continent, over the South Pole
, and towards New Berlin, Taylor -- as part of this other Operation POLE VAULT -- essentially is doing to Hitler and his surviving/hiding Nazis what the Enola Gay did to Hiroshima. A nuclear strike on the Nazi base,
with Taylor's bombing run making it a triangulation of U.S. forces. My POTA-fictional "Operation POLE VAULT" involves Taylor's airplane literally VAULTing over the South POLE.
And, amidst this post-war secret battle, certain "beings" who are in possession of disc-shaped aircraft are rousted out, like angry bees from their disturbed hive. About three months later, one of these
"discs" crashlands in New Mexico and -- after it is retrieved by the Roswell base personnel -- it is sent to Wright-Patterson (etc etc) for what they call "back-engineering".
Because Taylor had been a part of the U.S. military forces that first encountered them above the Antarctica skies -- and, perhaps, had earlier encountered similar things, when they were called "Foo
Fighters" above the European theater -- he is tapped as part of the team which, in 1972, will leave the Earth... the Solar System... and the 20th Century behind -- utilizing technology that would otherwise have
taken another century or so to develop. With help from a genius named Otto Hasslein (perhaps a turncoat Nazi scientist, co-opted by the Allies), the advanced technology retrieved by the Roswell base is studied... and,
with only a short window-of-opportunity in which to capitalize on it, the U.S.A. manages to build its ANSA spaceships.
In my scenario, the "beings" whose advanced tech is "back-engineered" are covert agents who have been observing Earth for thousands of years. Once we humans waged our Second World War, and
infringed on their no-longer-secret base in Antarctica -- having also invented the Atomic Bomb -- they informed President Truman (in secret, during the so-called "Washington Invasion" UFO-flap of July 1952)
that the "United Galaxy" has deemed the Human Race to be too dangerous to be allowed to extend its reach beyond our own Solar System... so, like the human village of Trion ["The Cure"], the entire
planet Earth is in a state of Quarantine. Our tendency to murder each other, to devastate our own environment, to suspend our rationality and believe in the most nonsensical of religious doctrines... well,
"They" have concluded that we're hopelessly insane. Aside from the minimal forces stationed in the Earth-Moon system to observe us [let's call 'em The Observers], no other United Galaxy aliens are
allowed in the Quarantine Zone.
And no humans, obviously, are allowed outside that zone.
But that doesn't mean that clever humans -- who have back-engineered an Observer vehicle -- cannot find a way to fly hundreds of light-years away from Earth. They just have to do it "under the radar"
so to speak. And that's what Taylor's ORION Mission does: instead of zipping to its destination at FTL velocity -- which it is entirely capable of doing -- it putts along at the slowest possible "warp"
speed, which yields a velocity of "nearly the speed of light" according to Hasslein's Theory.
Imagine the smallest possible number, say "0.00000...00001" [i.e. a decimal point followed by lots and lots of zeros, and then a "one"]. Call that number N
. That's the "warp factor" for these ANSA ships that want to fly "under the radar" outside the Quarantine Zone's boundary. The velocity [V] of the ship is "N to the Nth"
multiplied by the speed of light in a vacuum [C] divided by a number [R] that represents the Index of Refraction effect [V = N^N x C/R
]. What do I mean by that? Well, the warp-bubble that Hasslein's hyperdrive engine creates -- which is shaped like the skin of an apple, a cardioid rotated around its axis of symmetry -- is like one big-ass
photon. If the volume inside that bubble had no mass at all, then the Index of Refraction effect [R] would reduce to "1" and there would be no effect on the overall velocity. But!... the spaceship (with its
fuel) inside the warp-bubble has mass... meaning that the volume does not have zero density; because it has positive
density, the number R climbs higher than "1" and, effectively, decreases the velocity of the warpfield.
It takes Taylor's ship just over 2,000 Earth-Time years to travel a distance of 320 light-years... meaning that even though they're travelling at "nearly the speed of light" they are not
travelling at an Einsteinian
lightspeed across space. They're flowing through Hassleinian hyperspace, the mass of the ship supplying a density to the volume of the warpfield which slows down the 'ideal' velocity by a factor of six or
so.
Again, these ANSA ships could
be boosted to even higher speeds -- by raising the Warp Factor [N] to a number higher, so that N-to-the-Nth becomes higher than "R". If N were boosted to 3, for instance, then N^N would be 27
[the "^" symbol means "raised to the power of"]; and, if R were around 6
or so -- as it is for Taylor's trip to his destination in Orion -- then the net velocity would be N^N x C/R = 27 x C/6 = 4.5 x C. If R remains constant at 6 and N increases to 7
, for instance, then V = 823,543 x C/6 = 137,257.1666
... x C. In other words, at Warp Factor 7 (with R = 6), the ship would be able to fly that 320 lightyear distance in a mere 20 hours 26 minutes 11.5 seconds of Earth-Time -- as opposed to the 2,006.86 Earth-Time
years it ends up taking them, at their minimal warp-speed.
The thing about travelling at a warp-velocity where N is less
than 1, though, is that the closer it is to Zero, then N^N winds up being just a hair less than 1. I call this final number "Lightspeed-minus-Upsilon"
-- riffing on Professor Antelle's explanation of Einstein's Relativity effect of Time Dilation, where his ship reaches a maximum "speed of light minus epsilon"
[chapter 2]. I use "upsilon" because that Greek letter is the first letter in the word hyper, spelled YPER [the "h" in Greek is a `-mark], as in the word "
hyperspace." For example, if N is 0.1, then N^N = 0.794328234... If N = 0.01, then N^N = 0.954992586... If N = 0.001, then N^N = 0.993116048...
If N = 0.0001, then N^N = 0.99907939...
In other words, as N approaches Zero [without actually reaching it], N^N
approaches 1 [without actually reaching it], achieving a top warp-speed of 0.99999999... times lightspeed. But then you have to divide that by the Index of Refraction effect [R
]. For Taylor's ship, the "nearly the speed of light" aspect is due to N being as close as possible to Zero [i.e. 0.0000000001 for instance] so that N^N
becomes as close as possible to One [i.e. 0.999999997 for instance]. Hasslein's Theory says, essentially, that if the ship's hyperdrive putts along at the lowest possible Warp Factor, then the resultant
velocity [N^N x C] approaches One... and, as a result, Time Dilation effects happen.
Since the ship's mass remains the same, you could reduce the R-factor by ballooning up the volume of the warpfield. The bubble would have the same shape, but -- by pumping extra energy into it -- the cardioid
shape would be far bigger... and the resulting density would be correspondingly smaller. Since the Index of Refraction effect is a function of density, then R would shrink towards 1, and the Hassleinian Time Dilation
effects would then approach Einsteinian Time Dilation effects. The R-factor doesn't affect the Time Dilation rate, mind you; it merely slows down the warp-bubble the smaller it gets (and it can only get so small: it
has to be able to envelop the entire spaceship cocooned inside it, plus a safety-margin of extra empty space). To reduce the amount of energy expended, they make the warp-bubble as small as possible; to balloon it up as
big as possible, to reduce the R-factor, takes extra energy, and also increases the amount of interstellar material that the warpfield interacts with.
The reason that Taylor's trip towards Orion goes at a final velocity of around 0.16 x C is because at that speed -- around 1/6th lightspeed -- interstellar gas and dust and high-energy cosmic rays bounce off the
spheroidal "front" of the warp-bubble in such a way that an outside observer can't tell that a spaceship is zipping by. If the final velocity happened to be at lightspeed -- or even faster
than lightspeed -- then those particles would ricochet off the warp-bubble, boosted to higher speeds. Plowing through the interstellar medium, the warp-bubble would create what I call "photonic booms"...
and the United Galaxy has High-Velocity particle detectors set up all around the Galaxy, like a hyperspatial radar system to detect "speeders".
The only way to avoid detection is to warp along at a (final) velocity that is less than Einsteinian lightspeed. That means having N as low as possible, as close to Zero as you can "idle" the warp
engine.
Incidentally, the slowest possible warp-speed would be with N = 1/e [where the number "e" is 2.718281828... which is the base of natural logarithms]; the resulting number N = 0.367879441... which is the
smallest number N if you graph the equation N^N, giving you N^N = 0.692200627... The only reasons Taylor's ORION Mission doesn't increase its Warp Factor from 0.000000001 (or so) up to 0.3678... is because they
not only want to travel at a final speed that is undetectable by the Quarantine-enforcing United Galaxy, they also want to make use of Hassleinian Time Dilation, which only works to your advantage if N^N is 0.9999...
[i.e. as close to 1 as you can get], and 0.6922 is too slow for that "time bends" effect.
In my scenario, the United Galaxy Security Force ["UGSF"] doesn't become aware of Taylor's ORION Mission until late-3955. Taylor's ANSA (mother)ship arrives at its destination when the
Earth-Time clock reads "11-25-3978"... and, after de-warping, somebody other than Taylor, Landon, Dodge and Stewart is awake on the ship, and activates the EMERGENCY HOMING DEVICE, which is designed to
automatically send the ship back to Earth at maximum warp
. Due to the fact that the ship's trajectory is forced through the ring-shaped singularity of a Black Hole, the warpfield winds up going back to Earth (across Space) "retrotemporally" (negatively
through Time). They zoom through Hyperspace at a rate of 320 lightyears per 23.16 negative years [i.e. ~13.817 times lightspeed, but into the Past, not the Future].
As seen by an outside UGSF observer, it appears
that a warpfield leaves the vicinity of planet Earth in late September of 3955 and -- travelling at a speed of 13.817 times lightspeed -- arrives at the destination star system 320 lightyears away on 11-25-3978. The
UGSF thinks that a ship violating the Quarantine left Earth in 3955 and arrived in that Orion system some 23 years later in 3978. But what actually happened is that the ship left that Orion system in 3978
going backwards through Time to arrive back at Earth in 3955. The ANSA hyperdrive's "maximum warp" velocity is 13.817 x C.
Incidentally, Virdon's ship [in my scenario] never actually reaches Alpha Centauri, it merely "approaches" it, but gets caught in a timewarp [a trapped orbit around a Black Hole] situated 3.2155
lightyears from Earth, about 1.1245 lightyears shy of their destination. When Jones activates their EMERGENCY HOMING DEVICE, it kicks in at maximum warp [13.817 x C], also "threading the needle" of that Black
Hole's ring-shaped singularity, so that they go backwards in Time from 14 June 3085 to 21 March 3085, some 85 "retrodays".
Thus, the UGSF thinks
that a spaceship warped away from the vicinity of Earth on 3-21-3085, zipping along [at 13.817 x C] on a heading towards the Black Hole which they know is lurking about a parsec away from Earth in the direction of
Alpha Centauri. Some 85 days later, the ship's warpfield arrives at that Black Hole... and disappears
. The UGSF doesn't know that Backwards-through-Time travel is possible, so they misinterpret the phenomenon, assuming that the ship -- upon entering the Event Horizon of that Black Hole on 6-14-3085 -- was
destroyed.
And why should the UGSF know that it's possible to zip backwards through Time? After all, the only way to do it is to fly through the spinning singularity of a Black Hole... and who in their right mind would
even attempt it?
At any rate, my POTA project has to have some kind of semi-plausible explanation as to how the U.S.A. could send out an interstellar voyage in January of 1972. A reference in ESCAPE to the attempted assassination of
Hitler... an old oil tanker that had been scrapped soon after Operation HIGHJUMP, upon which Lewis Dixon played when he was about 25 years younger... the possibility of Taylor having had interesting wartime experiences
involving Foo Fighters and/or Roswell-crashed-discs...
I also had to figure out a semi-plausible explanation as to how a talking orangutan named Mandemus could have come on the scene
years
before the arrival of the Ape-onauts in 1973. If Mandemus is older than Caesar (as he is portrayed to be), then he had to have been part of a population of "evolved apes" dwelling on Earth unbeknownst to
Mankind in general for decades prior to the appearance of Cornelius and Zira.
How?!
If the three species of "evolved" apes were the result of genetic manipulation [i.e. Transgenics], how could they have been "created" by mid-20th Century human science?
In my POTA scenario, there's a character who has the know-how... and who has had it for around 6000 years. Way back when, more than 6,000 years ago, when he was commissioned to create a race of slaves to serve
his own non-terrestrial people, he used selective breeding techniques to boost the Brain-to-Body mass ratio of a species of primates... and, when their brains were big enough to serve as hosts for alien Minds, he
himself came to inhabit that new "human" body, as a psychic parasite.
Being an alien, he (and his fellow aliens) could not live in Earth's biosphere without being poisoned by its bacteria (like the Martians in H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds
)... so they need earthly lifeforms in which they can psychically dwell, like demonic spirits taking "possession" of a body. But the brain of their host must be large enough to house the full personality,
which is why this "Creator" bred Man to have as large a brain as possible, in comparison to the size of his body.
Manipulating the chromosomes of the human body in which he himself in-dwells, he creates a pair of clones, one male and one female [i.e. "Adam" and "Eve"... made in his image and likeness, down
to the genetic level]. They are not the only humans around, not even the first. They are merely the clones of the human that he bred to have a sufficiently large Brain/Body mass ratio. He "creates" them to be
workers in his food-producing plot of land, their tasks being to slave for him and the other so-called "gods" of the Sumerian pantheon -- he being the 'god' named Enki
, whose name literally means "landlord." They are also to breed more slaves, so that the number of workers slaving away for the idle, aristocratic Masters grows and grows...
Enki (as the myths about him show) eventually does with his slaves what Jefferson did with Sally Hemings, violating a taboo that the other 'gods' had put in place. He interbreeds with the human mortals...
and his punishment is to have his alien body [in suspended animation] destroyed -- trapping his Mind inside the human body that serves as his host.
Throughout the course of history, Enki "mind-jumps" into other carefully selected human bodies, becoming the Benefactor god of every major pantheon ruling over enslaved humans. He was Enki
in Sumer... "Eden" ... Thoth [Tehuti] in Egypt... Hermes in Greece... Mercury in Italy... Odin/Woden/Wotan
/etc. in Scandinavia... Quetzalcoatl and Kukulcan in Mesoamerica... Kon-Tiki Viracocha in South America and islands in the Pacific... etc.
When the United Galaxy discovered that a batch of escaped lunatics from the galactic insane asylum had wound up on Earth, they rounded them all up and incarcerated them in a better, escape-proof prison... all except
for Enki, whose alien body had been destroyed. Trapped in a succession of human bodies, Enki remained the only "god" of the ancient world to remain on Earth... at least until the late 1780s.
When the United Galaxy's sociologists, extrapolating Man's scientific advancements in the 18th Century, predict that Mankind will destroy his own civilization by the year 1992 +/- 20 years, Enki is granted
the opportunity to salvage non-human Earth life... to be transplanted onto a terraformed planet designed to harbor terrestrial lifeforms. He is also granted the ability to try to save the Earth from Man's
destructive ways... by bequeathing to a select group of people the Idea that had been missing from human religion up until that point: that Man possessed inalienable rights to Life, Liberty, and to the pursuit of
happiness. The "god" that had initially bred humans to serve as hosts for alien Minds... and had cloned his own human host-body in order to create a race of slaves to serve those "gods"... had now
endowed His creation with Rights that they had never enjoyed before, insofar as the "gods" had routinely taken their lives, liberty, and happiness.
So, his last "name" by which he is known to Man -- that is, to the Founders of the United States of America -- was a combination of four names: Babylonian/Hebraic EA/YAH
... Sumerian ENKI... Egyptian "Thoth"/TEHUTI... and Canaanite EL. Combined, the name is "Yah-Enki-Tehuti-El"... Yankee Doodle.
After working behind-the-scenes to create the U.S.A., this Creator leaves the Earth in order to create a New Earth up in "heaven"... in a star system 320 lightyears away.
Later circumstances will result in him being forced back to Earth, years after knowing that Man destroyed his own civilization shortly after the Ape Revolt of 1991. He will be a witness of the End of the World --
seen from a vantage point high up in orbit... and seeing the Earth destroyed will so outrage him that he will seek to punish Mankind for having built and used a world-destroying weapon... but how do you punish Man when
he has already destroyed himself?
The answer lies in time-travelling back into the Past... and manipulating the genes of the three nonhuman primate species which, in the early-to-mid 20th Century had been reduced to pathetic numbers. "God"
uses the same kinds of Transgenic manipulations that boosted human intellectual capacity to do the same thing for the Apes. And he does it in order to "exalt" that which is "base" [i.e. to
"evolve" the Apes] and to "abase" the haughty [i.e. to punish and degrade the Humans]. Before his Moreau-like activities lead to his capture by the UGSF (in 1952), he has created three populations of
Evolved Apes, and given to them a non-English language of their own, as well as a writing system (i.e. the Glyphs). And he has warned them not to let humans hear them speaking... at least, not until Man wipes out his
own civilization and the Apes are in a position to lord it over the pathetic human survivors.
The "First Article of Faith"... that God created the Ape in His own image... and made him the Lord of the planet... turns out to be partly true
, and not merely a bit of simian "aping" of a human biblical notion.
The talking apes, thus, are "created" by the once-Benefactor god of antiquity to serve as the punishers of Mankind. God punishes Man's iniquity by empowering a so-called Animal -- the Ape -- to serve
as God's scourge. Just as 'God' empowered the Assyrians and Babylonians to lord it over the people of Israel and Judah -- as punishment for their 'sins' -- having prophets like Daniel picture those
pagan dictatorships as "beasts" that rise up out of the sea (etc)... so, too, does this same 'God' empower the Apes to punish Man. At least, for a time.
'God' didn't need Taylor to call upon Him to damn the human race to Hell. 'God' had already empowered the Ape to make Man's life a living hell. The simian "beast" had risen up to
become the Lords of mankind... and Man had been turned into a groveling beast, like Nebuchadnezzar, in punishment for his sins.
Where Man once stood supreme, now rule the Apes!
Patrick
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As always, pretty cool theories Patrick. I have long wondered why Milo,
C&Z didn't have to be put into hyper-sleep like Taylor's crew.
I like the ideas of ANSA using alien technology and Hasslein being a
former(?) Nazi who reverse engineered those ships -- and Taylor being involved
in its recovery.
It makes me wonder what was the real reason for Taylor's mission - did 1973
earth know mankind's fate and was Taylor sent to stop it -- but in the ultimate
irony - ends up playing a part in earth's destruction? That could be why Brent
was sent to find out the fate of Taylor's mission. I always thought that Skipper
has a bit more to say before he passed on...
Both Taylor & Brent's ships unexpectedly crashed and perhaps the
onboard computers were not able to reveal the real orders behind the mission to
the crew.
As for Mandemus, how did an ape older than Caesar learn to speak?
The answer: Gene Therapy - I think its incidental that Mandemus is older
than Caesar - how did all the apes suddenly get the ability to speak?
Genes from the dead Apeonauts were synthesized by Ape Management and injected
into apes in order to improve their intelligence for salve duties. When Caesar
arrives in the city, he provided the psychic catalyst needed to spark an
exponential growth in simian intellect.
Bill
In a message dated 3/28/2012 6:50:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "munkeyman63au" <ntfoster@...>
wrote: > > The story sounds quite radical and a little bit
controversial in places. > The bit about Taylor being in the Air Force
in Korea and a 'mysterious and unknown craft' made me think of Patrick
Tilton's POTA Opus he's been working on. I'm sure I read something about a
crashed alien spaceship scenario in his story synopsis? > > Neil
T. __________________________________________________________
***In my POTA Opus, I've been trying to delve into more backstory based
on elements in the established 5-film/14-episode 'canon'. Among these
are:
1. Hasslein's mention of the U.S.A.'s attempt to assassinate
Hitler,
2. The derelict oil tanker on which Lewis Dixon played as a kid,
and
3. The outrageous notion that the U.S.A. could send a spaceship across
interstellar distances as early as 1972.
In my own private reading, I've been interested in a whole host of
'fringe'-type topics, including the so-called Hitler Survival Myth. There's
recent evidence that the skull that's supposed to be that of Adolf Hitler was
DNA tested... and found to be that of a female. Hmm...
If Hitler did survive the fall of Berlin, where might he have
gone? Well, in the late 1930's the Nazis sent an expedition to Antarctica,
which they claimed for the Third Reich. A ship called Schwabenland sent
out planes that dropped loads and loads of Nazi flags all over the territory
called Queen Maud Land (by the Norskies), which the Germans renamed
Neuschwabenland -- just south of South Africa, and including
that part of the coast of Antarctica that shares the same longitude as
Berlin.
Interestingly enough, the ordinary swastika emblem is supposed to be a
representation of the Earth as seen from above the North Polar region, the
inner cross representing the crossing of two great circles longitudinally
perpendicular to each other over the pole, with the outer 90-degree
attachments representing the circular movement of those geodetic line-arcs
caused by the Earth's rotation. The Nazi swastika, however, is a mirror image
of the ancient version... which might suggest that the Nazi swastika
represents the South Polar region. Which, you'll recall, the Nazis claimed for
the Third Reich in the late 1930's.
After two U-boats were captured off the coast of Argentina in 1946 --
months after they were supposed to have complied with their orders to
surrender to the Allies -- U.S. military intelligence interrogated their
crews... and, soon after, the U.S. Navy sent an expedition to Antarctica
during the south hemisphere summer [i.e. when it was winter in the northern
hemisphere], from late-1946 to early-1947. Called Operation HIGHJUMP, it was
commanded by the most experienced polar explorer, Admiral Richard Byrd.
A lot of weird things are said about that expedition... including the
notion that they encountered disc-shaped aircraft that could fly from
pole-to-pole. How much of this speculation is true, or just UFO-buff
conspiracy theory... well, who knows? It was only a few months later, after
HIGHJUMP was cut short prematurely (in March 1947), that the first major wave
of UFO sightings swept America, including the infamous Roswell Incident of
June/July 1947.
Years ago, when I was researching some of this wacko-yet-interesting
stuff, it occurred to me that the name of the Operation -- "HIGHJUMP" -- was a
track-and-field sport implying the ability to ascend to great heights.
Hmm... might that be a reference to aircraft possessing greater 'lift'
abilities than any known man-made aircraft? Maybe?
And then it occurred to me that there is another track-and-field
sport that is called the POLE VAULT... and my creative juices got to
flowing...
So, I came up with the idea that George Taylor, years before he became a
Colonel and commanded the Orion Mission flight to an unnamed planet orbiting
in another solar system 320 light-years away, had served in the USAAF during
World War II, flying a B-52 affectionately called "The Taylor
Maid" (with appropriate cheesecake nosecone art). And, after the War
was supposed to be officially over, and Tayl or had been discharged from the
USAAF, he is forced to rejoin in order to take part in the secret mission to
kill Hitler... who, it turns out, did not commit suicide in his Berlin
fuhrer-bunker, but had managed to escape to a U-boat base in Denmark and,
thence, made his way to a secret Nazi base that had been dubbed "Neu
Berlin"... situated on the continent of Antarctica.
The fleet of ships that made its way to the Antarctic base known as
"Little America" (as part of Operation HIGHJUMP) split into two forces, an
East Group and a West Group... both groups going around the coast of
Antarctica (one eastward, the other westward) and converging on the
Neuschwabenland area, where the Nazis supposedly had established a New Berlin
on the same longitude as the newly-destroyed Berlin in Germany.
Incidentally, one of the two oil tankers that were part of HIGHJUMP's
fleet will wind up at the McKinley and Sons Naval Scrapyard ,
where Zira, Cornelius, Salome and Hasslein will lose their lives in
1973...
In my scenario, Taylor commands a crew on his B-52, The Taylor
Maid, landing it first on the "Little America" base's landing strip that
the HIGHJUMP people had prepped prior to their Eastward and Westward
pincer-moves around the coast of Antarctica... and then, after loading up
enough fuel for a flight across the entire continent, over the South
Pole, and towards New Berlin, Taylor -- as part of this other Operation
POLE VAULT -- essentially is doing to Hitler and his surviving/hiding Nazis
what the Enola Gay did to Hiroshima. A nuclear strike on the Nazi base, with
Taylor's bombing run making it a triangulation of U.S. forces. My
POTA-fictional "Operation POLE VAULT" involves Taylor's airplane literally
VAULTing over the South POLE.
And, amidst this post-war secret battle, certain "beings" who are in
possession of disc-s haped aircraft are rousted out, like angry bees from
their disturbed hive. About three months later, one of these "discs"
crashlands in New Mexico and -- after it is retrieved by the Roswell base
personnel -- it is sent to Wright-Patterson (etc etc) for what they call
"back-engineering".
Because Taylor had been a part of the U.S. military forces that first
encountered them above the Antarctica skies -- and, perhaps, had earlier
encountered similar things, when they were called "Foo Fighters" above the
European theater -- he is tapped as part of the team which, in 1972, will
leave the Earth... the Solar System... and the 20th Century behind --
utilizing technology that would otherwise have taken another century or so to
develop. With help from a genius named Otto Hasslein (perhaps a turncoat Nazi
scientist, co-opted by the Allies), the advanced technology retrieved by the
Roswell base is studied... and, with only a short window-of-opportunity in
which to capitalize on it, the U.S.A. manages to build its ANSA
spaceships.
In my scenario, the "beings" whose advanced tech is "back-engineered" are
covert agents who have been observing Earth for thousands of years. Once we
humans waged our Second World War, and infringed on their no-longer-secret
base in Antarctica -- having also invented the Atomic Bomb -- they informed
President Truman (in secret, during the so-called "Washington Invasion"
UFO-flap of July 1952) that the "United Galaxy" has deemed the Human Race to
be too dangerous to be allowed to extend its reach beyond our own Solar
System... so, like the human village of Trion ["The Cure"], the entire planet
Earth is in a state of Quarantine. Our tendency to murder each other, to
devastate our own environment, to suspend our rationality and believe in the
most nonsensical of religious doctrines... well, "They" have concluded that
we're hopelessly insane. Aside from the minimal forces stationed in the
Earth-Moon system to observe us [let's call 'em The Observers], no other
United Galaxy aliens are allowed in the Quarantine Zone.
And no humans, obviously, are allowed outside that
zone.
But that doesn't mean that clever humans -- who have back-engineered an
Observer vehicle -- cannot find a way to fly hundreds of light-years away from
Earth. They just have to do it "under the radar" so to speak. And that's what
Taylor's ORION Mission does: instead of zipping to its destination at FTL
velocity -- which it is entirely capable of doing -- it putts along at the
slowest possible "warp" speed, which yields a velocity of "nearly the speed of
light" according to Hasslein's Theory.
Imagine the smallest possible number, say "0.00000...00001" [i.e. a
decimal point followed by lots and lots of zeros, and then a "one"]. Call that
number N. That's the "warp factor" for these AN SA ships that want to
fly "under the radar" outside the Quarantine Zone's boundary. The velocity [V]
of the ship is "N to the Nth" multiplied by the speed of light in a vacuum [C]
divided by a number [R] that represents the Index of Refraction effect [V =
N^N x C/R]. What do I mean by that? Well, the warp-bubble that Hasslein's
hyperdrive engine creates -- which is shaped like the skin of an apple, a
cardioid rotated around its axis of symmetry -- is like one big-ass photon. If
the volume inside that bubble had no mass at all, then the Index of Refraction
effect [R] would reduce to "1" and there would be no effect on the overall
velocity. But!... the spaceship (with its fuel) inside the warp-bubble has
mass... meaning that the volume does not have zero density; because
it has positive density, the number R climbs higher than "1" and,
effectively, decreases the velocity of the warpfield.
It takes Taylor's ship just ov er 2,000 Earth-Time years to travel a
distance of 320 light-years... meaning that even though they're travelling at
"nearly the speed of light" they are not travelling at an
Einsteinian lightspeed across space. They're flowing through
Hassleinian hyperspace, the mass of the ship supplying a density to the volume
of the warpfield which slows down the 'ideal' velocity by a factor of six or
so.
Again, these ANSA ships could be boosted to even higher speeds --
by raising the Warp Factor [N] to a number higher, so that N-to-the-Nth
becomes higher than "R". If N were boosted to 3, for instance, then N^N
would be 27 [the "^" symbol means "raised to the power of"]; and, if R
were around 6 or so -- as it is for Taylor's trip to his destination in
Orion -- then the net velocity would be N^N x C/R = 27 x C/6 = 4.5 x C. If R
remains constant at 6 and N increases to 7, for instance, then V =
823,543 x C/6 = < b>137,257.1666... x C. In other words, at Warp
Factor 7 (with R = 6), the ship would be able to fly that 320 lightyear
distance in a mere 20 hours 26 minutes 11.5 seconds of Earth-Time -- as
opposed to the 2,006.86 Earth-Time years it ends up taking them, at their
minimal warp-speed.
The thing about travelling at a warp-velocity where N is less than
1, though, is that the closer it is to Zero, then N^N winds up being just a
hair less than 1. I call this final number "Lightspeed-minus-Upsilon"
-- riffing on Professor Antelle's explanation of Einstein's Relativity effect
of Time Dilation, where his ship reaches a maximum "speed of light minus
epsilon" [chapter 2]. I use "upsilon" because that Greek letter is the
first letter in the word hyper, spelled YPER [the
"h" in Greek is a `-mark], as in the word "hyperspace." For
example, if N is 0.1, then N^N = 0.794328234...
If N = 0.01, then N^N = 0.954992586...
If N = 0.001, then N^N = 0.993116048...
If N = 0.0001, then N^N = 0.99907939...
In other words, as N approaches Zero [without actually reaching
it], N^N approaches 1 [without actually reaching it], achieving a top
warp-speed of 0.99999999... times lightspeed. But then you have to divide that
by the Index of Refraction effect [R]. For Taylor's ship, the "nearly
the speed of light" aspect is due to N being as close as possible to
Zero [i.e. 0.0000000001 for instance] so that N^N becomes as close as
possible to One [i.e. 0.999999997 for instance]. Hasslein's Theory says,
essentially, that if the ship's hyperdrive putts along at the lowest possible
Warp Factor, then the resultant velocity [N^N x C] approaches One... and, as a
result, Time Dilation effects happen.
Since the ship's mass remains the same, you could reduce the R -factor by
ballooning up the volume of the warpfield. The bubble would have the same
shape, but -- by pumping extra energy into it -- the cardioid shape would be
far bigger... and the resulting density would be correspondingly smaller.
Since the Index of Refraction effect is a function of density, then R would
shrink towards 1, and the Hassleinian Time Dilation effects would then
approach Einsteinian Time Dilation effects. The R-factor doesn't affect the
Time Dilation rate, mind you; it merely slows down the warp-bubble the smaller
it gets (and it can only get so small: it has to be able to envelop the entire
spaceship cocooned inside it, plus a safety-margin of extra empty space). To
reduce the amount of energy expended, they make the warp-bubble as small as
possible; to balloon it up as big as possible, to reduce the R-factor, takes
extra energy, and also increases the amount of interstellar material that the
warpfield interacts with.
The reason th at Taylor's trip towards Orion goes at a final velocity of
around 0.16 x C is because at that speed -- around 1/6th lightspeed --
interstellar gas and dust and high-energy cosmic rays bounce off the
spheroidal "front" of the warp-bubble in such a way that an outside observer
can't tell that a spaceship is zipping by. If the final velocity happened to
be at lightspeed -- or even faster than lightspeed -- then those
particles would ricochet off the warp-bubble, boosted to higher speeds.
Plowing through the interstellar medium, the warp-bubble would create what I
call "photonic booms"... and the United Galaxy has High-Velocity particle
detectors set up all around the Galaxy, like a hyperspatial radar system to
detect "speeders".
The only way to avoid detection is to warp along at a (final) velocity
that is less than Einsteinian lightspeed. That means having N as low as
possible, as close to Zero as you can "idle" the warp engine.
Incidentally, the slowest possible warp-speed would be with N = 1/e
[where the number "e" is 2.718281828... which is the base of natural
logarithms]; the resulting number N = 0.367879441... which is the smallest
number N if you graph the equation N^N, giving you N^N = 0.692200627... The
only reasons Taylor's ORION Mission doesn't increase its Warp Factor from
0.000000001 (or so) up to 0.3678... is because they not only want to travel at
a final speed that is undetectable by the Quarantine-enforcing United Galaxy,
they also want to make use of Hassleinian Time Dilation, which only works to
your advantage if N^N is 0.9999... [i.e. as close to 1 as you can get], and
0.6922 is too slow for that "time bends" effect.
In my scenario, the United Galaxy Security Force ["UGSF"] doesn't become
aware of Taylor's ORION Mission until late-3955. Taylor's ANSA (mother)ship
arrives at its destination when the Earth-Time clock reads "11-25-3978".. .
and, after de-warping, somebody other than Taylor, Landon, Dodge and Stewart
is awake on the ship, and activates the EMERGENCY HOMING DEVICE, which is
designed to automatically send the ship back to Earth at maximum warp.
Due to the fact that the ship's trajectory is forced through the ring-shaped
singularity of a Black Hole, the warpfield winds up going back to Earth
(across Space) "retrotemporally" (negatively through Time). They zoom
through Hyperspace at a rate of 320 lightyears per 23.16 negative years [i.e.
~13.817 times lightspeed, but into the Past, not the Future].
As seen by an outside UGSF observer, it appears that a warpfield
leaves the vicinity of planet Earth in late September of 3955 and --
travelling at a speed of 13.817 times lightspeed -- arrives at the destination
star system 320 lightyears away on 11-25-3978. The UGSF thinks that a
ship violating the Quarantine left Earth in 3955 and arrived in that O rion
system some 23 years later in 3978. But what actually happened is that
the ship left that Orion system in 3978 going backwards through
Time to arrive back at Earth in 3955. The ANSA hyperdrive's "maximum
warp" velocity is 13.817 x C.
Incidentally, Virdon's ship [in my scenario] never actually reaches Alpha
Centauri, it merely "approaches" it, but gets caught in a timewarp [a trapped
orbit around a Black Hole] situated 3.2155 lightyears from Earth, about 1.1245
lightyears shy of their destination. When Jones activates their EMERGENCY
HOMING DEVICE, it kicks in at maximum warp [13.817 x C], also "threading the
needle" of that Black Hole's ring-shaped singularity, so that they go
backwards in Time from 14 June 3085 to 21 March 3085, some 85
"retrodays".
Thus, the UGSF thinks that a spaceship warped away from the
vicinity of Earth on 3-21-3085, zipping along [at 13.817 x C] on a heading
towa rds the Black Hole which they know is lurking about a parsec away from
Earth in the direction of Alpha Centauri. Some 85 days later, the ship's
warpfield arrives at that Black Hole... and disappears. The UGSF
doesn't know that Backwards-through-Time travel is possible, so they
misinterpret the phenomenon, assuming that the ship -- upon entering the Event
Horizon of that Black Hole on 6-14-3085 -- was destroyed.
And why should the UGSF know that it's possible to zip backwards through
Time? After all, the only way to do it is to fly through the spinning
singularity of a Black Hole... and who in their right mind would even attempt
it?
At any rate, my POTA project has to have some kind of semi-plausible
explanation as to how the U.S.A. could send out an interstellar voyage in
January of 1972. A reference in ESCAPE to the attempted assassination of
Hitler... an old oil tanker that had been scrapped soon after Operatio n
HIGHJUMP, upon which Lewis Dixon played when he was about 25 years younger...
the possibility of Taylor having had interesting wartime experiences involving
Foo Fighters and/or Roswell-crashed-discs...
I also had to figure out a semi-plausible explanation as to how a talking
orangutan named Mandemus could have come on the scene years
before the arrival of the Ape-onauts in 1973. If Mandemus is older
than Caesar (as he is portrayed to be), then he had to have been part of a
population of "evolved apes" dwelling on Earth unbeknownst to Mankind in
general for decades prior to the appearance of Cornelius and Zira.
How?! If the three species of "evolved" apes were the
result of genetic manipulation [i.e. Transgenics], how could they have been
"created" by mid-20th Century human science?
In my POTA scenario, there's a character who has the know-how... and who
has had it for around 6000 years. Way back when, more than 6,000 years ago,
when he was commissioned to create a race of slaves to serve his own
non-terrestrial people, he used selective breeding techniques to boost the
Brain-to-Body mass ratio of a species of primates... and, when their brains
were big enough to serve as hosts for alien Minds, he himself came to inhabit
that new "human" body, as a psychic parasite.
Being an alien, he (and his fellow aliens) could not live in Earth's
biosphere without being poisoned by its bacteria (like the Martians in H.G.
Wells' War of the Worlds)... so they need earthly lifeforms in
which they can psychically dwell, like demonic spirits taking "possession" of
a body. But the brain of their host must be large enough to house the full
personality, which is why this "Creator" bred Man to have as large a brain as
possible, in comparison to the size of his body.
Manipulating the chromosomes of the human body in which he himself
in-dwells, he creates a pair of clones, one male and one female [i.e. "Adam"
and "Eve"... made in his image and likeness, down to the genetic level]. They
are not the only humans around, not even the first. They are merely the clones
of the human that he bred to have a sufficiently large Brain/Body mass ratio.
He "creates" them to be workers in his food-producing plot of land, their
tasks being to slave for him and the other so-called "gods" of the Sumerian
pantheon -- he being the 'god' named Enki, whose name literally
means "landlord." They are also to breed more slaves, so that the
number of workers slaving away for the idle, aristocratic Masters grows and
grows...
Enki (as the myths about him show) eventually does with his slaves what
Jefferson did with Sally Hemings, violating a taboo that the other 'gods' had
put in place. He interbreeds with the human mortals... and his punishment is
to have his alien body [in suspended animation] destroyed -- trapping his Mind
inside the human body that serves as his host.
Throughout the course of history, Enki "mind-jumps" into other carefully
selected human bodies, becoming the Benefactor god of every major pantheon
ruling over enslaved humans. He was Enki in Sumer...
"Eden" ... Thoth [Tehuti] in Egypt... Hermes
in Greece... Mercury in Italy...
Odin/Woden/Wotan/etc. in
Scandinavia... Quetzalcoatl and Kukulcan in
Mesoamerica... Kon-Tiki Viracocha in South America and islands
in the Pacific... etc.
When the United Galaxy discovered that a batch of escaped lunatics from
the galactic insane asylum had wound up on Earth, they rounded them all up and
incarcerated them in a better, escape-proof prison... all except for Enki,
whose alien body had been destroyed. Trapped in a succession of human bodies,
Enki remained the only "god" of the ancient world to remain on Earth... at
least until the late 1780s.
When the United Galaxy's sociologists, extrapolating Man's scientific
advancements in the 18th Century, predict that Mankind will destroy his own
civilization by the year 1992 +/- 20 years, Enki is granted the opportunity to
salvage non-human Earth life... to be transplanted onto a terraformed planet
designed to harbor terrestrial lifeforms. He is also granted the ability to
try to save the Earth from Man's destructive ways... by bequeathing to a
select group of people the Idea that had been missing from human religion up
until that point: that Man possessed inalienable rights to Life, Liberty, and
to the pursuit of happiness. The "god" that had initially bred humans to serve
as hosts for alien Minds... and had cloned his own human host-body in order to
cr eate a race of slaves to serve those "gods"... had now endowed His creation
with Rights that they had never enjoyed before, insofar as the "gods" had
routinely taken their lives, liberty, and happiness.
So, his last "name" by which he is known to Man -- that is, to the
Founders of the United States of America -- was a combination of four names:
Babylonian/Hebraic EA/YAH... Sumerian
ENKI... Egyptian "Thoth"/TEHUTI... and Canaanite
EL. Combined, the name is "Yah-Enki-Tehuti-El"...
Yankee Doodle.
After working behind-the-scenes to create the U.S.A., this Creator leaves
the Earth in order to create a New Earth up in "heaven"... in a star system
320 lightyears away.
Later circumstances will result in him being forced back to Earth, years
after knowing that Man destroyed his own civilization shortly after the Ape
Revolt of 1991. He will be a witness of the End of the World -- seen from a
vantage point high up in orbit... and seeing the Earth destroyed will so
outrage him that he will seek to punish Mankind for having built and used a
world-destroying weapon... but how do you punish Man when he has already
destroyed himself?
The answer lies in time-travelling back into the Past... and manipulating
the genes of the three nonhuman primate species which, in the early-to-mid
20th Century had been reduced to pathetic numbers. "God" uses the same kinds
of Transgenic manipulations that boosted human intellectual capacity to do the
same thing for the Apes. And he does it in order to "exalt" that which is
"base" [i.e. to "evolve" the Apes] and to "abase" the haughty [i.e. to punish
and degrade the Humans]. Before his Moreau-like activities lead to his capture
by the UGSF (in 1952), he has created three populations of Evolved Apes, and
given to them a non-Englis h language of their own, as well as a writing
system (i.e. the Glyphs). And he has warned them not to let humans hear them
speaking... at least, not until Man wipes out his own civilization and the
Apes are in a position to lord it over the pathetic human
survivors.
The "First Article of Faith"... that God created the Ape in His own
image... and made him the Lord of the planet... turns out to be
partly true, and not merely a bit of simian "aping" of a human
biblical notion.
The talking apes, thus, are "created" by the once-Benefactor god of
antiquity to serve as the punishers of Mankind. God punishes Man's iniquity by
empowering a so-called Animal -- the Ape -- to serve as God's scourge. Just as
'God' empowered the Assyrians and Babylonians to lord it over the people of
Israel and Judah -- as punishment for their 'sins' -- having prophets like
Daniel picture those pagan dictatorships as "beasts" that r ise up out of the
sea (etc)... so, too, does this same 'God' empower the Apes to punish Man. At
least, for a time.
'God' didn't need Taylor to call upon Him to damn the human race to Hell.
'God' had already empowered the Ape to make Man's life a living hell. The
simian "beast" had risen up to become the Lords of mankind... and Man had been
turned into a groveling beast, like Nebuchadnezzar, in punishment for his
sins.
Where Man once stood supreme, now rule the Apes!
Patrick
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Date: 3/29/2012 |
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Ben Dewey has announced that he and Jeff Parker
are doing POTA for BOOM! comics. A miniseries or something, I guess. To check
out Ben's style, click the illustration at the link.
Next month will mark a year of BOOM! Ape
comics.
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From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 3/30/2012 |
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It's great that they are working on yet more apes, but does anyone know whats happened to the Terror line they were supposed to republish?
The initial release dates listed show that Terror #2 should have been out this week and yet they haven't even gotten around to putting out #1. The comics shops themselves do not get any revised dates once the initial
shipping dates slip. The BOOM discussion forums are pretty bare and useless.
This is taking forever and it can't be the due to the creators being late submitting their work since that parts been done (approaching 40 years now). Whats the holdup? I hope it's not publishing rights.
Dario
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From: "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
Ben Dewey has announced that he and Jeff Parker are doing POTA for BOOM! comics. A miniseries or something, I guess. To check out Ben's style, click the illustration at the link.
Next month will mark a year of BOOM! Ape comics.
http://www.apecentral.net/2012/03/ben-dewey-artist-of-the-planet-of-the-apes.html"
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Date: 3/30/2012 |
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You thought POTA was just good, clean fun. Well,
laugh it up, we're almost out of here. How much time has the world
got?!
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Date: 3/30/2012 |
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 3/31/2012 |
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What's the deal with Hiya Toys that is putting
out the Caesar action figure in July? I went to their website and it's in
Chinese. Is this going to be like Medicom where it's hard to find and costs an
arm and a leg? (Caesar comes with 3 sets of hands but only one set of arms and
legs) I want to be able to wear a mask, go into Toys 'R Us and buy this dude for
a reasonable price. $25 for 5" figure?
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From: Sal & Mick |
Date: 4/6/2012 |
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I have been told Terror is on hold.
I’m not sure why.
Personally
I have been wondering why anyone would bother with ANOTHER reissue!
That's
why I asked them if it's coloured....NOTHING comes out without colour now...or
if they had planned to provide a conclusion.
Anyone
interested in TERROR can still get the originals at a good price or the
ADVENTURE reissues at a good price.
I hope
they have put it on hold to add colour, and to finish it off, and make it a
trade paperback. Now THAT would sell, particularly if they get Moench and
Ploog involved.
Otherwise
the new series would only have lasted till they realised nobody needs it! I
mean what could they offer - new covers? And 3 or 4 each of them?
Anyway,
here's hoping they it would have are fine tuning this and it's not the death
bell for their apes comics!
Michael
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Date: 4/6/2012 |
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.htmlYeah, it is weird that they'd want to reissue/reprint TERROR, the money
they're spending on the rights to it could (possibly) be enough to do another
mini-series which would be better...
You're right about the multiple covers thing... One every now and then for
a special mini-series or something is one thing, but to do it continually
for every release is overkill...
And one thing, ever colorizing TERROR can't make that mess any better...
All the non APES stuff is there makes the RETURN series look like canon by
comparison...
In a message dated 4/6/2012 1:13:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
smwhitty@... writes:
> I have been told Terror is on hold.
>
> I'm not sure why.
>
> Personally I have been wondering why anyone would bother with ANOTHER
> reissue!
>
> That's why I asked them if it's coloured....NOTHING comes out without
> colour now...or if they had planned to provide a conclusion.
>
> Anyone interested in TERROR can still get the originals at a good price or
> the ADVENTURE reissues at a good price.
>
> I hope they have put it on hold to add colour, and to finish it off, and
> make it a trade paperback. Now THAT would sell, particularly if they get
> Moench and Ploog involved.
>
> Otherwise the new series would only have lasted till they realised nobody
> needs it! I mean what could they offer - new covers? And 3 or 4 each of
> them?
>
> Anyway, here's hoping they it would have are fine tuning this and it's not
> the death bell for their apes comics!
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 4/6/2012 |
| Subject: Re: TerrorFYING! |
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Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] TerrorFYING!
The only interesting reason to do it would be to
finish it with Ploog and Moench. Didn't you say they suggested something like
that (with a non-answer)? Maybe they're still working that out.
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:13 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] TerrorFYING!
I have been told Terror
is on hold.
Im not sure
why.
Personally I have been
wondering why anyone would bother with ANOTHER reissue!
That's why I asked them
if it's coloured....NOTHING comes out without colour now...or if they had
planned to provide a conclusion.
Anyone interested in
TERROR can still get the originals at a good price or the ADVENTURE reissues at
a good price.
I hope they have put it
on hold to add colour, and to finish it off, and make it a trade
paperback. Now THAT would sell, particularly if they get Moench and Ploog
involved.
Otherwise the new
series would only have lasted till they realised nobody needs it! I mean
what could they offer - new covers? And 3 or 4 each of
them?
Anyway, here's hoping
they it would have are fine tuning this and it's not the death bell for their
apes comics!
Michael
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Message: 61331 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 4/6/2012 |
| Subject: Reading the tea leaves for "Rise 2" |
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There's been no word on when "Rise 2" will arrive
but some recent scheduling of other Fox sci-fi franchises might hold a clue.
Originally their almighty "Avatar" franchise was supposed to return for back to
back sequels in 2014 and 2015. Producer Jon Landau sez that ain't gonna happen.
He says expect the next one in 2015 at the earliest. "Rise"meisters
WETA are developing an underwater motion capture system which should be the big
innovation for "Avatar 2" (so later Caesar can go underwater).
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avatar-2-delay-2015-jon-landau-james-cameron-weta-digital-308743
Meanwhile, Fox is looking at a January start for
their "X-Men: First Class" sequel. "First Class" just came out last year with
"Rise", of course. I would guess that means it wouldn't be ready for Summer 2013
(and they've already got "Wolverine" planned for that). This is just further
proof that Fox is jumping on these franchises. "Rise" made a lot more than any
"X-Men" movie and the sequel is reportedly a "priority" for the studio. So I
expect an announcement any day (unless there's major problems with the
script).
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-sequel-hunger-games-jennifer-lawrence-january-308844
And let's not forget the very weird March that
sci-fi movies had. There was "John Carter", the expensive space opera that was
officially announced to lose $ 200 million. And "The Hunger Games", the
dystopian sci-fier that is making a fortune (it's been out two weeks and it will
probably pass Rise's worldwide box office total soon). What lessons will
Hollywood take from these and apply to science fiction such as the POTA
franchise? Maybe smaller budgets and grittier tales? Or will the apes make the
humans do a survival show called "The Human Games"? As always with POTA, time
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