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Group: potadg Message: 61838 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/28/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" of a new look
Group: potadg Message: 61839 From: Sally and Michael Date: 1/28/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" of a new look
Group: potadg Message: 61840 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/28/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" of a new look
Group: potadg Message: 61841 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
Group: potadg Message: 61842 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Re: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
Group: potadg Message: 61843 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/29/2013
Subject: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
Group: potadg Message: 61844 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/30/2013
Subject: James Franciscus' Birthday, 1/31/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61845 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/31/2013
Subject: Re: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
Group: potadg Message: 61846 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/2/2013
Subject: former "Dawn of the POTA" writer talks ch-ch-ch-changes
Group: potadg Message: 61847 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/3/2013
Subject: former "Dawn of the POTA" writer talks ch-ch-ch-changes
Group: potadg Message: 61848 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/3/2013
Subject: Re: POTA Super Show last Sunday
Group: potadg Message: 61849 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/3/2013
Subject: former "Dawn of the POTA" writer talks ch-ch-ch-changes
Group: potadg Message: 61850 From: Neil Moxham Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Blu-Ray screen shots
Group: potadg Message: 61851 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/4/2013
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray screen shots
Group: potadg Message: 61852 From: Neil Moxham Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray screen shots
Group: potadg Message: 61853 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/5/2013
Subject: Zira in makeup test
Group: potadg Message: 61854 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/7/2013
Subject: Planet of the Apes premier, 2/8/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61855 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Jerry Goldsmith's Birthday, 2/10/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61856 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2013
Subject: Rise of the "Rise" people
Group: potadg Message: 61857 From: Neil Moxham Date: 2/10/2013
Subject: Re: Rise of the "Rise" people
Group: potadg Message: 61858 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/11/2013
Subject: Funko doing POTA figures
Group: potadg Message: 61859 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 2/11/2013
Subject: Re: Funko doing POTA figures
Group: potadg Message: 61860 From: Chris Hight Date: 2/11/2013
Subject: Re: Funko doing POTA figures
Group: potadg Message: 61861 From: Sally and Michael Date: 2/11/2013
Subject: Re: Funko doing POTA figures
Group: potadg Message: 61862 From: mlccougar Date: 2/12/2013
Subject: Re: Funko doing POTA figures
Group: potadg Message: 61863 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/14/2013
Subject: Is POTA68 the greatest science fiction movie ever?
Group: potadg Message: 61864 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/15/2013
Subject: Rupert Wyatt talks "Dawn of the POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 61865 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/15/2013
Subject: Will "Dawn of the POTA" shoot in 3D?
Group: potadg Message: 61866 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/18/2013
Subject: "Dawn" shooting pushed back? MAYbe
Group: potadg Message: 61867 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/19/2013
Subject: first "Dawn of the POTA" casting announcement
Group: potadg Message: 61868 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/19/2013
Subject: Pierre Boulle's Birthday, 2/20/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61869 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: casting "Dawn"
Group: potadg Message: 61870 From: Sally and Michael Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: Re: casting "Dawn"
Group: potadg Message: 61871 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/24/2013
Subject: "Argo" wins Best Pic!
Group: potadg Message: 61873 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/27/2013
Subject: Is Jason Clarke humanity's only hope?
Group: potadg Message: 61874 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/28/2013
Subject: Gary Oldman joins the "Dawn" patrol
Group: potadg Message: 61875 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/1/2013
Subject: Jackie Earle Haley talks POTA
Group: potadg Message: 61876 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/4/2013
Subject: Let's get NECAed!
Group: potadg Message: 61877 From: Chris Hight Date: 3/5/2013
Subject: Re: Let's get NECAed!
Group: potadg Message: 61878 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2013
Subject: Felicity on the POTA
Group: potadg Message: 61879 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/6/2013
Subject: Arthur P. Jacobs' Birthday, 3/7/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61880 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/7/2013
Subject: POTA Makeup Test, 3/8/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61881 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/7/2013
Subject: Booth Coleman's Birthday, 3/8/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61882 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: casting "Dawn"
Group: potadg Message: 61883 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: casting "Dawn"
Group: potadg Message: 61884 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: Robin Williams: POTA fan?
Group: potadg Message: 61885 From: Chris Hight Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: Re: casting "Dawn"
Group: potadg Message: 61886 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: Andy Serkis update on "Dawn of the POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 61887 From: Sally and Michael Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: Re: Robin Williams: POTA fan?
Group: potadg Message: 61888 From: Sally and Michael Date: 3/9/2013
Subject: Nigo
Group: potadg Message: 61889 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: "Dawn" shooting schedule
Group: potadg Message: 61890 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
Subject: Re: Robin Williams: POTA fan?
Group: potadg Message: 61891 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
Subject: Richard Zanuck doc debuts May 8
Group: potadg Message: 61892 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
Subject: Rupert Wyatt talks "Dawn of the POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 61893 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
Subject: they don't know "Jack"
Group: potadg Message: 61894 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
Subject: Re: Rise of the "Rise" people
Group: potadg Message: 61895 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
Subject: the original POTA ending
Group: potadg Message: 61896 From: knightangel314 Date: 3/18/2013
Subject: Re: the original POTA ending
Group: potadg Message: 61897 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/19/2013
Subject: Frank Capra Jr.'s Birthday, 3/20/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61898 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/21/2013
Subject: Beneath showing at Museum in NC
Group: potadg Message: 61899 From: Sally and Michael Date: 3/21/2013
Subject: Re: Beneath showing at Museum in NC
Group: potadg Message: 61900 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/21/2013
Subject: M. Emmet Walsh's Birthday, 3/22/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61901 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/22/2013
Subject: readying ape invasion
Group: potadg Message: 61902 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/22/2013
Subject: How tweet it is
Group: potadg Message: 61903 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/24/2013
Subject: "Dawn" director had Mego POTA toys
Group: potadg Message: 61904 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/25/2013
Subject: Mort Abrahams' Birthday, 3/26/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61905 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/29/2013
Subject: Cornelia
Group: potadg Message: 61906 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/29/2013
Subject: Cornelia pic
Group: potadg Message: 61907 From: Chris Hight Date: 3/29/2013
Subject: Re: Cornelia pic
Group: potadg Message: 61908 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2013
Subject: Ted Post's Birthday, 3/31/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61909 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/4/2013
Subject: Rare POTA photos
Group: potadg Message: 61910 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/4/2013
Subject: the crack of "Dawn"
Group: potadg Message: 61911 From: drzaiusdavis Date: 4/9/2013
Subject: Re: Rare POTA photos
Group: potadg Message: 61912 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/9/2013
Subject: Is "Dawn" all set to rock?
Group: potadg Message: 61913 From: Tim Date: 4/12/2013
Subject: Rise spoof in Scary Movie?
Group: potadg Message: 61914 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2013
Subject: Re: Rise spoof in Scary Movie? [1 Attachment]
Group: potadg Message: 61915 From: Chris Hight Date: 4/13/2013
Subject: Re: Rise spoof in Scary Movie? [1 Attachment]
Group: potadg Message: 61916 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/13/2013
Subject: Bradford Dillman's Birthday, 4/14/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61917 From: Dario Sciola Date: 4/15/2013
Subject: New graphic novel Primates (Goodall, Fossey, Galdikas)
Group: potadg Message: 61918 From: Tim Date: 4/28/2013
Subject: POTA on Mad Men!
Group: potadg Message: 61919 From: Tim Date: 4/28/2013
Subject: Re: POTA on Mad Men!
Group: potadg Message: 61920 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/11/2013
Subject: Here's to Al
Group: potadg Message: 61921 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/13/2013
Subject: Tom Scott's Birthday, 5/14/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61922 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/13/2013
Subject: Tim Roth's Birthday, 5/14/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61923 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/14/2013
Subject: "Dawn" of the editors
Group: potadg Message: 61924 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/14/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" of the editors
Group: potadg Message: 61925 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/14/2013
Subject: composer Giacchino doing "Dawn of the POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 61926 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/15/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" of the editors
Group: potadg Message: 61927 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/16/2013
Subject: Hey Jeff.....
Group: potadg Message: 61928 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2013
Subject: Bobby Porter's Birthday, 5/17/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61929 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2013
Subject: The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) published , 5/17/2013,
Group: potadg Message: 61930 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2013
Subject: Re: Hey Jeff.....
Group: potadg Message: 61931 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/16/2013
Subject: Re: Hey Jeff.....
Group: potadg Message: 61932 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2013
Subject: POTA at 50?
Group: potadg Message: 61933 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/20/2013
Subject: Escape Premier, 5/21/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61934 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/22/2013
Subject: Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)
Group: potadg Message: 61935 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/23/2013
Subject: Dawn of the one year countdown
Group: potadg Message: 61936 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2013
Subject: Beneath Premier, 5/26/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61937 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2013
Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday, 5/26/2013, 12:00 am
Group: potadg Message: 61938 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/25/2013
Subject: dawn, dirty "Apes" set photos



Group: potadg Message: 61838 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/28/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" of a new look
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  They're slowly coming in. That action figure review post was sent over a week ago.   : o

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

 

Jeff,

Go to your SENT ITEMS and re-send the ones you are referring to.

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013 6:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

 

  Sorry, the internet gods keep double posting me. I guess it's their way of making up for all my posts that didn't show up.

From: Jeff K.

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:25 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

 

  According to Imdb, the change on "Dawn of the POTA" continues. Michael Seresin will be the director of photography. "Rise" had Andrew Lesnie, who defined the look of WETA movies ("Lord of the Rings", "The Hobbit", "King Kong"). Seresin goes way back, doing Alan Parker movies like "Bugsy Malone" and "Midnight Express" in the '70's. He hasn't really done the blockbuster thing, except for a "Harry Potter" movie. But he is from Wellington, New Zealand, home of WETA. Interestingly, he did a sci-fi movie that comes out this year called "Gravity" (George Clooney, Sandra Bullock) that reportedly has groundbreaking photography simulating, well, gravity.

 

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Group: potadg Message: 61839 From: Sally and Michael Date: 1/28/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" of a new look
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    It’s YAHOO mate.  Or James….but he’s not here (or is he?).  J

     

    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Monday, 28 January 2013 8:12 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

     

      They're slowly coming in. That action figure review post was sent over a week ago.   : o

     

    Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:00 PM

    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

     

    Jeff,

    Go to your SENT ITEMS and re-send the ones you are referring to.

    Michael

    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013 6:18 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

      Sorry, the internet gods keep double posting me. I guess it's their way of making up for all my posts that didn't show up.

    From: Jeff K.

    Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:25 AM

    Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

      According to Imdb, the change on "Dawn of the POTA" continues. Michael Seresin will be the director of photography. "Rise" had Andrew Lesnie, who defined the look of WETA movies ("Lord of the Rings", "The Hobbit", "King Kong"). Seresin goes way back, doing Alan Parker movies like "Bugsy Malone" and "Midnight Express" in the '70's. He hasn't really done the blockbuster thing, except for a "Harry Potter" movie. But he is from Wellington, New Zealand, home of WETA. Interestingly, he did a sci-fi movie that comes out this year called "Gravity" (George Clooney, Sandra Bullock) that reportedly has groundbreaking photography simulating, well, gravity.

     

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    Group: potadg Message: 61840 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/28/2013
    Subject: Re: "Dawn" of a new look
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      No, it's my e-mail. Messages come in but they go out sloooooowly (sometimes). I just chalk it up to a Hasslein Curve.

    Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 5:50 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

    It’s YAHOO mate.  Or James….but he’s not here (or is he?).  J

    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Monday, 28 January 2013 8:12 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

      They're slowly coming in. That action figure review post was sent over a week ago.   : o

    Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:00 PM

    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

    Jeff,

    Go to your SENT ITEMS and re-send the ones you are referring to.

    Michael

    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2013 6:18 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

      Sorry, the internet gods keep double posting me. I guess it's their way of making up for all my posts that didn't show up.

    From: Jeff K.

    Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:25 AM

    Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of a new look

     

      According to Imdb, the change on "Dawn of the POTA" continues. Michael Seresin will be the director of photography. "Rise" had Andrew Lesnie, who defined the look of WETA movies ("Lord of the Rings", "The Hobbit", "King Kong"). Seresin goes way back, doing Alan Parker movies like "Bugsy Malone" and "Midnight Express" in the '70's. He hasn't really done the blockbuster thing, except for a "Harry Potter" movie. But he is from Wellington, New Zealand, home of WETA. Interestingly, he did a sci-fi movie that comes out this year called "Gravity" (George Clooney, Sandra Bullock) that reportedly has groundbreaking photography simulating, well, gravity.

     

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    Group: potadg Message: 61841 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/29/2013
    Subject: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
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      John Chambers keeps getting credited with designing Mr. Spock's ears for "Star Trek" (certainly sci-fi history) yet Fred Phillips is the main "Trek" makeup designer (both worked on "The Outer Limits", which Gene Roddenberry raided when trying to get "Star Trek" off the ground). Who designed them? Leonard Nimoy, Spock himself, tweeted on 1/15/13: "John Chambers, depicted by John Goodman in "Argo", made some fine Spock ears but Fred Phillips designed them and created the whole makeup".
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    Group: potadg Message: 61842 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/29/2013
    Subject: Re: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
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    I visited John Chambers way back in 1980. He was talking to us(My friend Greg and I) about everything, including Spock's ears. He told us that Fred Phillips couldn't sculpt anything. He was called to make the ears. Whether or not his original molds were duplicated or not, He wasn't sure. Also, If you talk to any make up artists that were around at his time, they ALL say John was the best at ears. He could sculpt them in his sleep.

    Jeff B

    On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Jeff K. < veetus@...> wrote:

    John Chambers keeps getting credited with designing Mr. Spock's ears for "Star Trek" (certainly sci-fi history) yet Fred Phillips is the main "Trek" makeup designer (both worked on "The Outer Limits", which Gene Roddenberry raided when trying to get "Star Trek" off the ground). Who designed them? Leonard Nimoy, Spock himself, tweeted on 1/15/13: "John Chambers, depicted by John Goodman in "Argo", made some fine Spock ears but Fred Phillips designed them and created the whole makeup".


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    Group: potadg Message: 61843 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/29/2013
    Subject: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
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      John Chambers keeps getting credited with designing Mr. Spock's ears for "Star Trek" (certainly sci-fi history) yet Fred Phillips is the main "Trek" makeup designer (both worked on "The Outer Limits", which Gene Roddenberry raided when trying to get "Star Trek" off the ground). Who designed them? Leonard Nimoy, Spock himself, tweeted on 1/15/13: "John Chambers, depicted by John Goodman in "Argo", made some fine Spock ears but Fred Phillips designed them and created the whole makeup".
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    Group: potadg Message: 61844 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/30/2013
    Subject: James Franciscus' Birthday, 1/31/2013, 12:00 am
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    Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   James Franciscus' Birthday
     
    Date:   Thursday January 31, 2013
    Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
    Notes:   Happy Birthday James!
    (Brent: Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970))
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61845 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/31/2013
    Subject: Re: Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?
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      But who "designed" them? Did Phillips sketch them out as part of his Spock design and Chambers made them physical realities or did they tell Chambers, "We need alien ears!" and that's what he came up with in the sculpting?
      Chambers was very determined that he alone design the POTA makeup because he knew it was an Oscar winner. Maybe confusion of credit on stuff like Spock's ears was a reason.

    Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Did John Chambers design Mr. Spock's ears?

     

    I visited John Chambers way back in 1980.  He was talking to us(My friend Greg and I) about everything, including Spock's ears.  He told us that Fred Phillips couldn't sculpt anything.  He was called to make the ears.  Whether or not his original molds were duplicated or not, He wasn't sure.  Also, If you talk to any make up artists that were around at his time, they ALL say John was the best at ears.  He could sculpt them in his sleep.

    Jeff B

    On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:
     

      John Chambers keeps getting credited with designing Mr. Spock's ears for "Star Trek" (certainly sci-fi history) yet Fred Phillips is the main "Trek" makeup designer (both worked on "The Outer Limits", which Gene Roddenberry raided when trying to get "Star Trek" off the ground). Who designed them? Leonard Nimoy, Spock himself, tweeted on 1/15/13: "John Chambers, depicted by John Goodman in "Argo", made some fine Spock ears but Fred Phillips designed them and created the whole makeup".


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    Group: potadg Message: 61846 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/2/2013
    Subject: former "Dawn of the POTA" writer talks ch-ch-ch-changes
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      Scott Z. Burns was the screenwriter who worked with director Rupert Wyatt on "Dawn" last summer just before Wyatt left the project. Fox grabbed Matt Reeves and brought in another, Mark Bomback (a Fox fave who had also worked on "Rise") and apparently they're off in a different direction. Scott sez: "Rupert Wyatt and I worked on a draft last summer that I think we were both really excited about and he went into Fox and they seemed to like it, they wanted a lot of changes and they sort of parted ways over those changes. Then management shifted at Fox, they brought in a new director, I think the new director wanted a new writer and I don't know how much of what we did and I wrote is ongoing. It's kind of heartbreaking because I really loved what we were trying to say with that movie so I hope some of it survives or that they come up with something a lot better".
      He sez he tried to give the script more interesting human characters than "Rise" had. "I was loving it, it was a really fun world to play in. It's really heartbreaking when these things sort of leave you and you're not even sure why".
      Anyway, Fox wanted to take it in another direction and apparently Matt Reeves had the key. Was Wyatt right or was Fox right? That remains to be seen. All I can say is from listening to Matt's DVD commentaries he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and he's not signing on to mess it up. No one had faith in "Rise" and Wyatt turned it into a big hit and an acclaimed movie to boot. To replace that director puts a lot of pressure on Reeves to deliver. He has to knock it out of the park or all he's going to hear is Wyatt should've directed it. Eventually we'll hear what Wyatt's ideas were and decide for ourselves who was right.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61847 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/3/2013
    Subject: former "Dawn of the POTA" writer talks ch-ch-ch-changes
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      Scott Z. Burns was the screenwriter who worked with director Rupert Wyatt on "Dawn" last summer just before Wyatt left the project. Fox grabbed Matt Reeves and brought in another, Mark Bomback (a Fox fave who had also worked on "Rise") and apparently they're off in a different direction. Scott sez: "Rupert Wyatt and I worked on a draft last summer that I think we were both really excited about and he went into Fox and they seemed to like it, they wanted a lot of changes and they sort of parted ways over those changes. Then management shifted at Fox, they brought in a new director, I think the new director wanted a new writer and I don't know how much of what we did and I wrote is ongoing. It's kind of heartbreaking because I really loved what we were trying to say with that movie so I hope some of it survives or that they come up with something a lot better".
      He sez he tried to give the script more interesting human characters than "Rise" had. "I was loving it, it was a really fun world to play in. It's really heartbreaking when these things sort of leave you and you're not even sure why".
      Anyway, Fox wanted to take it in another direction and apparently Matt Reeves had the key. Was Wyatt right or was Fox right? That remains to be seen. All I can say is from listening to Matt's DVD commentaries he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and he's not signing on to mess it up. No one had faith in "Rise" and Wyatt turned it into a big hit and an acclaimed movie to boot. To replace that director puts a lot of pressure on Reeves to deliver. He has to knock it out of the park or all he's going to hear is Wyatt should've directed it. Eventually we'll hear what Wyatt's ideas were and decide for ourselves who was right.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61848 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/3/2013
    Subject: Re: POTA Super Show last Sunday
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      When a residual check sez "The Interrogation" it proves a connection. That's the best we're going to do unless someone finds the footage.

    Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:59 AM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA Super Show last Sunday

     

    Jeff,

    Respectfully, how does a residual cheque prove anything?

    Michael


    On 18/01/2013 1:04 AM Jeff K. wrote:

     

      Yes I did. First of all, it did happen. I've seen one of Bill's residual checks. He got one as recently as 2007 (for a scene that isn't in the show? Do people get residuals for something they worked on even if it's on the cutting room floor? Or is it in the episode in some country?). Lee knew Bill well but unfortunately he doesn't have any of the pictures from the scene.

    Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:03 PM
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    My question is this: Did he get a chance to ask Lee Delano about the "missing scene" from the episode "The Interrogation"? And if so, did he have any memory of it? (And my guess would be no, because I wouldn't expect someone to remember a small part they had in a TV episode nearly 40 years ago...)


    In a message dated 1/16/2013 7:14:18 PM Central Standard Time, smwhitty@... writes:

    Wonderful Jeff!

    Did you get any photos?!?!?!

    Michael


    On 17/01/2013 1:17 AM Jeff K. wrote:

              Lee Delano





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      Scott Z. Burns was the screenwriter who worked with director Rupert Wyatt on "Dawn" last summer just before Wyatt left the project. Fox grabbed Matt Reeves and brought in another, Mark Bomback (a Fox fave who had also worked on "Rise") and apparently they're off in a different direction. Scott sez: "Rupert Wyatt and I worked on a draft last summer that I think we were both really excited about and he went into Fox and they seemed to like it, they wanted a lot of changes and they sort of parted ways over those changes. Then management shifted at Fox, they brought in a new director, I think the new director wanted a new writer and I don't know how much of what we did and I wrote is ongoing. It's kind of heartbreaking because I really loved what we were trying to say with that movie so I hope some of it survives or that they come up with something a lot better".
      He sez he tried to give the script more interesting human characters than "Rise" had. "I was loving it, it was a really fun world to play in. It's really heartbreaking when these things sort of leave you and you're not even sure why".
      Anyway, Fox wanted to take it in another direction and apparently Matt Reeves had the key. Was Wyatt right or was Fox right? That remains to be seen. All I can say is from listening to Matt's DVD commentaries he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and he's not signing on to mess it up. No one had faith in "Rise" and Wyatt turned it into a big hit and an acclaimed movie to boot. To replace that director puts a lot of pressure on Reeves to deliver. He has to knock it out of the park or all he's going to hear is Wyatt should've directed it. Eventually we'll hear what Wyatt's ideas were and decide for ourselves who was right.
     
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    Finally figured out (after 4 years!) a way of getting screen shots from the blu-ray discs. Here's a few new images of the concept art based on Rod Serling's script:

    http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_Concept_Art_%26_Costume_Tests
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      Looks great. Thanx for all your work on the Wiki.

    Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:01 PM
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    Finally figured out (after 4 years!) a way of getting screen shots from the blu-ray discs. Here's a few new images of the concept art based on Rod Serling's script:

    http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_Concept_Art_%26_Costume_Tests

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    With stuff like this, it's a pleasure Jeff.


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." wrote:
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    > Looks great. Thanx for all your work on the Wiki.
    >
    >
    > From: Neil Moxham
    > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:01 PM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Blu-Ray screen shots
    >
    >
    >
    > Finally figured out (after 4 years!) a way of getting screen shots from the blu-ray discs. Here's a few new images of the concept art based on Rod Serling's script:
    >
    > http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_Concept_Art_%26_Costume_Tests
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      Here's a pic of John Chambers doing a makeup test on Kim Hunter.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61854 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/7/2013
    Subject: Planet of the Apes premier, 2/8/2013, 12:00 am
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    Title:   Planet of the Apes premier
     
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    Notes:   Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1968.
     
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    Date:   Sunday February 10, 2013
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    Notes:   Happy Birthday Jerry!
    (Composer: Planet of the Apes (1968) & Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971))
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61856 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2013
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      Next month "Dawn of the POTA" is supposed to shoot with a whole new crop of talented people in front of and behind the camera (except for the Ape Dept.). "Rise" director Rupert Wyatt has moved on but there seems to be more than meets the eye about his departure. Aintitcool reports they've heard he had "a miserable time on the 1st film and had to fight for every inch of goodness".
      Reports at the time of release suggested a happy family, with Fox (especially Tom Rothman) giving Wyatt room to go beyond just a typical action movie (though they did tinker with it after test screenings and some interesting stuff, like the ape love interest, got left on the cutting room floor). I don't know what to think about "Dawn". Does Fox have more riding on it and is thus playing it safer? Did Wyatt get dismissed because they don't want to roll the dice on interesting ideas? All will be revealed after it's too late. And so, my children, we must be patient. And wait.
      Meanwhile, the U.K. film company Embankment Films has snagged a couple of projects from the "Rise" folks. Such as Andy Serkis' directorial debut "Animal Farm", which Wyatt was once attached to but some directors are more equal than others. It's being written by Caroline Thompson, who did some of the better Tim Burton films. And it's described as "a family film told from the point of view of an adorable knee-high piglet", which sounds terrible. That is not "Animal Farm", which used an animal society for political satire (and got a shout out in the original POTA). I consider "Animal Farm" the grandfather of POTA and I was excited for Serkis and Wyatt to follow up a POTA movie with that. But a family film about a cute pig? Say it isn't so, Mr. Serkis.
      Embankment also has Rupert Wyatt's new project, an adaptation of the modern British classic "Birdsong". He had tried to get that made before the "Rise" assignment. Hopefully now he has the clout to see it through. The book has a long history as a wannabe film and actually the "Rise" screenwriters also worked on it (with another director). Last year it was turned into a British TV miniseries but it deserves the feature film treatment and I'm glad to see Wyatt is back on it.
      Hopefully Fox is doing the right thing and Wyatt's availability isn't at the expense of POTA.
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61857 From: Neil Moxham Date: 2/10/2013
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    But would Wyatt have agreed to do the second movie if the first was that miserable? May be some exaggeration there perhaps?

    Animal Farm has a special place for me, I studied it in school and have to admit that the animated film still brings a tear to my eye, but yeah, that description of the new film really sounds like crap. I would hope for better from Andy Serkis and from a British indie film company.


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." wrote:
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    > Next month "Dawn of the POTA" is supposed to shoot with a whole new crop of talented people in front of and behind the camera (except for the Ape Dept.). "Rise" director Rupert Wyatt has moved on but there seems to be more than meets the eye about his departure. Aintitcool reports they've heard he had "a miserable time on the 1st film and had to fight for every inch of goodness".
    > http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60778
    > Reports at the time of release suggested a happy family, with Fox (especially Tom Rothman) giving Wyatt room to go beyond just a typical action movie (though they did tinker with it after test screenings and some interesting stuff, like the ape love interest, got left on the cutting room floor). I don't know what to think about "Dawn". Does Fox have more riding on it and is thus playing it safer? Did Wyatt get dismissed because they don't want to roll the dice on interesting ideas? All will be revealed after it's too late. And so, my children, we must be patient. And wait.
    > Meanwhile, the U.K. film company Embankment Films has snagged a couple of projects from the "Rise" folks. Such as Andy Serkis' directorial debut "Animal Farm", which Wyatt was once attached to but some directors are more equal than others. It's being written by Caroline Thompson, who did some of the better Tim Burton films. And it's described as "a family film told from the point of view of an adorable knee-high piglet", which sounds terrible. That is not "Animal Farm", which used an animal society for political satire (and got a shout out in the original POTA). I consider "Animal Farm" the grandfather of POTA and I was excited for Serkis and Wyatt to follow up a POTA movie with that. But a family film about a cute pig? Say it isn't so, Mr. Serkis.
    > Embankment also has Rupert Wyatt's new project, an adaptation of the modern British classic "Birdsong". He had tried to get that made before the "Rise" assignment. Hopefully now he has the clout to see it through. The book has a long history as a wannabe film and actually the "Rise" screenwriters also worked on it (with another director). Last year it was turned into a British TV miniseries but it deserves the feature film treatment and I'm glad to see Wyatt is back on it.
    > http://www.screendaily.com/news/embankment-boards-wyatts-birdsong-serkis-animal-farm-gillian-anderson-on-scifi/5051228.article
    > Hopefully Fox is doing the right thing and Wyatt's availability isn't at the expense of POTA.
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    Subject: Funko doing POTA figures
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      Toy Fair 2013 is on (hopefully still, since there's a serious lag time in my e-mails). And even though it hasn't seemed to "dawn" on Fox to start cultivating a collectible spirit for the new "Apes", companies are still giving the originals a shot.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61859 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 2/11/2013
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    That's funny, because, for the last two years, while at ComicCon in ape make up, I would go over and ask the Funko guys when they were going to do some apes. The main guy said, "research was being done." He was always very open to the idea. I guess we'll get something. Not particularly fond of cutesy POTA stuff, but it's something.


    Jeff B

    On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Jeff K. < veetus@...> wrote:

    Toy Fair 2013 is on (hopefully still, since there's a serious lag time in my e-mails). And even though it hasn't seemed to "dawn" on Fox to start cultivating a collectible spirit for the new "Apes", companies are still giving the originals a shot.


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    They are neat. This will be an easy "pass" for me....thank God!

    From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:15 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Funko doing POTA figures
     
      Toy Fair 2013 is on (hopefully still, since there's a serious lag time in my e-mails). And even though it hasn't seemed to "dawn" on Fox to start cultivating a collectible spirit for the new "Apes", companies are still giving the originals a shot.
     
     http://collider.com/funko-pop-iron-man-3-game-of-thrones-images/
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    Group: potadg Message: 61861 From: Sally and Michael Date: 2/11/2013
    Subject: Re: Funko doing POTA figures
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    Wow!   MORE POTA Figures!  Go figure!  ;)

     

    Michael

     

    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013 4:16 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Funko doing POTA figures

     

     

      Toy Fair 2013 is on (hopefully still, since there's a serious lag time in my e-mails). And even though it hasn't seemed to "dawn" on Fox to start cultivating a collectible spirit for the new "Apes", companies are still giving the originals a shot.

     

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    .html.html It's cool that there's new APES stuff on the way, but it sucks that they're "cutesy"...


    In a message dated 2/11/2013 12:21:23 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

    Toy Fair 2013 is on (hopefully still, since there's a serious lag time in my e-mails). And even though it hasn't seemed to "dawn" on Fox to start cultivating a collectible spirit for the new "Apes", companies are still giving the originals a shot.
     
    http://collider.com/funko-pop-iron-man-3-game-of-thrones-images/




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    Group: potadg Message: 61863 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/14/2013
    Subject: Is POTA68 the greatest science fiction movie ever?
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        John Kenneth Muir makes the case. Oh, and happy 45 years.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61864 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/15/2013
    Subject: Rupert Wyatt talks "Dawn of the POTA"
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      Whatculture! provides an interview with "Rise" director Rupert Wyatt, including why he's not coming back. He sez: "I had a take on the sequel which didn't marry with the studio's". But there seems to be no hard feelings and Wyatt is thankful the studio gave him the opportunity (ape-ortunity?). As for the newbie, he adds: "Matt Reeves is a filmmaker, and a very good one". He also talks about his next project "Birdsong" and other things.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61865 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/15/2013
    Subject: Will "Dawn of the POTA" shoot in 3D?
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      Though it seems like almost every big movie that comes out is in 3D, it's very rare for a movie to actually shoot in 3D. Usually they are converted after the fact. Off the top of my head I can only think of a few live action movies that shot in 3D... "Avatar", "Transformers 3", "The Hobbit". But Bryan Singer reveals that Fox's next "X-Men" will film in 3D so it's not a big leap to speculate that "Dawn" might as well ("Rise" made more dough than any "X-Men" movie). If they're going to go 3D they should shoot it that way. Makes for better 3D.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61866 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/18/2013
    Subject: "Dawn" shooting pushed back? MAYbe
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      Filmneworleans.org sez "Dawn of the POTA" starts shooting May 1st. Recent talk was it would start in March but looks like it got pushed back.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61867 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/19/2013
    Subject: first "Dawn of the POTA" casting announcement
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      "The Hollywood Reporter" has scooped the first big news on the "Rise" sequel "Dawn of the POTA". First of all, Jason Clarke (from the Best Picture nominee "Zero Dark Thirty") has been cast in an unspecified role. But there's also some dish on the plot: it takes place 15 years after "Rise" and deals with two groups: "One focus is on the group of human scientists who are struggling to survive alone in San Francisco. Another aspect of the story is the struggle of intelligent ape Caesar...to maintain dominance over his kingdom".
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61868 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/19/2013
    Subject: Pierre Boulle's Birthday, 2/20/2013, 12:00 am
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    Title:   Pierre Boulle's Birthday
     
    Date:   Wednesday February 20, 2013
    Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
    Notes:   Happy Birthday Pierre!
    (Author: La Plan�te des Singes)
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 61869 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/24/2013
    Subject: casting "Dawn"
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      As the casting announcements begin, I notice some are wondering if the new actors are playing humans or apes. Judging from "Rise" I think it's safe to say the "known" actors (like Jason Clarke and Kodi Smit-McPhee) are playing humans. In "Rise" the apes were cast from stunt people (or at least actors with a talent for physical movement). And they seemed lower on the cast totem pole. Even Andy Serkis came up last among the main actors (credited as "and Andy Serkis"). Reportedly Serkis is the star of the sequel, and getting a great payday, but what about the other ape actors, such as Terry Notary as Rocket, Chris Gordon as Koba and Karin Konoval as Maurice the orangutan (she also played the clerk who argued with Franco about court dates in "Rise")? Will their stars "rise" since they are actors returning to a hit franchise? Or will they still be seen as glorified stunt people? If they get more billing priority, how will that affect who is cast as humans? Since the movie is reportedly about a "group of scientists" we might have some more interesting human casting announcements to come.
      Old school POTA didn't seem to have trouble getting top actors to don the makeup but such actors don't seem as eager to be covered over by CG. It would be interesting if "Dawn of the POTA" is a groundbreaker in advancing credit for CG performers. Really, there hasn't been a live-action movie with star billing for a CGer; I guess the female lead in "Avatar". I don't count "Tin Tin" since that was an animated film. We'll see where the cards land but for now I think the big "Dawn" casting announcements will be for human roles.
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    Group: potadg Message: 61870 From: Sally and Michael Date: 2/24/2013
    Subject: Re: casting "Dawn"
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      I think the difference with this movie will be if the apes speak.

       

      Then it will be more of a requirement to get the right voices, and it could be like the Disney films where they pay actors well for their voices.

       

      Obviously a big name actor in RISE would have been a genuine waste of money, but if the apes so talk it could add the dimension of relevance.

       

      Dan Castellaneta for Caesar!

       

      Michael

       

      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
      Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013 1:13 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [PotaDG] casting "Dawn"

       

       

        As the casting announcements begin, I notice some are wondering if the new actors are playing humans or apes. Judging from "Rise" I think it's safe to say the "known" actors (like Jason Clarke and Kodi Smit-McPhee) are playing humans. In "Rise" the apes were cast from stunt people (or at least actors with a talent for physical movement). And they seemed lower on the cast totem pole. Even Andy Serkis came up last among the main actors (credited as "and Andy Serkis"). Reportedly Serkis is the star of the sequel, and getting a great payday, but what about the other ape actors, such as Terry Notary as Rocket, Chris Gordon as Koba and Karin Konoval as Maurice the orangutan (she also played the clerk who argued with Franco about court dates in "Rise")? Will their stars "rise" since they are actors returning to a hit franchise? Or will they still be seen as glorified stunt people? If they get more billing priority, how will that affect who is cast as humans? Since the movie is reportedly about a "group of scientists" we might have some more interesting human casting announcements to come.

        Old school POTA didn't seem to have trouble getting top actors to don the makeup but such actors don't seem as eager to be covered over by CG. It would be interesting if "Dawn of the POTA" is a groundbreaker in advancing credit for CG performers. Really, there hasn't been a live-action movie with star billing for a CGer; I guess the female lead in "Avatar". I don't count "Tin Tin" since that was an animated film. We'll see where the cards land but for now I think the big "Dawn" casting announcements will be for human roles.

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      Group: potadg Message: 61871 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/24/2013
      Subject: "Argo" wins Best Pic!
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        "You can teach a rhesus monkey to be a director in a day."
            - - - John Chambers in "Argo"
       
        "Argo", featuring John Goodman as the only person to win an Oscar for POTA, has taken home the big movie prize. John Chambers was a patriot and was proudest of his work for his government. That his CIA work has crossed over into movieland and now will be remembered is pretty damn cool and I wish he could see this. Maybe he can. Good night, John.
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      Group: potadg Message: 61873 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/27/2013
      Subject: Is Jason Clarke humanity's only hope?
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        On the Oscar red carpet, newly elected POTA star Jason Clarke said of his character: "I play a guy who's trying to save humanity". Since the movie reportedly deals with a group of scientists in San Francisco, presumably Clarke will play one of them. So what could a group of scientists do 15 years after the plague to stop the human decline? Find a cure? Create the ultimate weapon? It gives us a little clue where the movie is heading.
        Meanwhile, Clarke may be going to the POTA but his movie "Zero Dark Thirty" lost the Oscar to a movie about John Chambers.
       
       
       
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      Group: potadg Message: 61874 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/28/2013
      Subject: Gary Oldman joins the "Dawn" patrol
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        Caesar's human resistance is growing. Gary Oldman has been cast as the human leader Dreyfus. He was the original choice to play Thade in POTA2001 but reportedly talks broke down over salary. Certainly it can be said they are going for good actors, so there should be some meaty human scenes in "Dawn".
       
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      Group: potadg Message: 61875 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/1/2013
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        Here's a recent interview where Jackie Earle Haley talks about many of his acting roles over his long career, including his dream job as a kid working on the POTA TV show. He sez "that one was really cool, getting that part. I was and still am a huge POTA fan. And, by the way, I loved the last movie ("Rise"). Honestly, I've liked all the incarnations, if for different reasons... what was really cool was that Roddy McDowall was part of the series, so that was really exciting, because I was such a fan of his from the films... I don't think I ever actually talked to him when he wasn't in his ape outfit."
        Jackie also talks about how a makeup artist on the show gave him some ape appliances and showed him how to put them on, and he was an ape for a couple of Halloweens. Here's hoping he gets to return to the POTA in a role soon.
       
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      Group: potadg Message: 61876 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/4/2013
      Subject: Let's get NECAed!
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        POTA is on the "Rise" again and that potentially means new toys and collectibles. I have my own ideas about who would be a good company to carry the license but I'm taking it to my grave. OUCH! OK, I'll talk! How about NECA for a line of "Rise", "Dawn" and classic "Apes" figures? They used to be the poor man's McFarlane Toys but I'm impressed with their work these days (as reasonable Toys 'R Us toy toys; there's also the expensive high end Sideshow and Hot Toys). And they've been getting cozy with Fox, doing lines for "Prometheus" (a recent movie that wasn't as popular as "Rise"), "Predator", "Aliens", and even the classic "Batman" TV show (which recently got loose from the legal logjam between Fox and Warner Bros.). I'd like to see them give it a shot with a mix of the classic and new "Apes". How could we say "Noooo!"?
       
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      Group: potadg Message: 61877 From: Chris Hight Date: 3/5/2013
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      My collection is filled with first class custom ape figures so I'm good. Personally, I retired after the 1:6 Liberty One cockpit.

      From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 1:20 PM
      Subject: [PotaDG] Let's get NECAed!
       
        POTA is on the "Rise" again and that potentially means new toys and collectibles. I have my own ideas about who would be a good company to carry the license but I'm taking it to my grave. OUCH! OK, I'll talk! How about NECA for a line of "Rise", "Dawn" and classic "Apes" figures? They used to be the poor man's McFarlane Toys but I'm impressed with their work these days (as reasonable Toys 'R Us toy toys; there's also the expensive high end Sideshow and Hot Toys). And they've been getting cozy with Fox, doing lines for "Prometheus" (a recent movie that wasn't as popular as "Rise"), "Predator", "Aliens", and even the classic "Batman" TV show (which recently got loose from the legal logjam between Fox and Warner Bros.). I'd like to see them give it a shot with a mix of the classic and new "Apes". How could we say "Noooo!"?
       
        http://collider.com/neca-batman-robocop-iron-man-images/
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      Group: potadg Message: 61878 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2013
      Subject: Felicity on the POTA
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        "Variety" reports Keri Russell will spice up the male-centric cast of "Dawn of the POTA". She joins Kodi McPhee as a "This Is Your Life" roster for director Matt Reeves, as she was the title character in "Felicity", the TV show Reeves co-created and directed with his childhood buddy J. J. ("Star Trek"/"Star Wars") Abrams. She also featured in Abrams' movie "Mission: Impossible 3". Currently she is on the new hit show "The Americans". No word on her role yet.
       
       
       
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      Notes:   Happy Birthday Arthur!
      (Producer: Planet of the Apes (1968)
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      Notes:   On this day in 1966 the original Planet of the Apes Makeup test featuring Edward G. Robinson as Dr. Zaius was filmed, paving the way for the filming of the movie Planet of the Apes.
       
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      Notes:   Happy Birthday Booth!
      (Zaius: Planet of the Apes TV series (1974))
       
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      Group: potadg Message: 61882 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
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        As the casting announcements begin, I notice some are wondering if the new actors are playing humans or apes. Judging from "Rise" I think it's safe to say the "known" actors (like Jason Clarke and Kodi Smit-McPhee) are playing humans. In "Rise" the apes were cast from stunt people (or at least actors with a talent for physical movement). And they seemed lower on the cast totem pole. Even Andy Serkis came up last among the main actors (credited as "and Andy Serkis"). Reportedly Serkis is the star of the sequel, and getting a great payday, but what about the other ape actors, such as Terry Notary as Rocket, Chris Gordon as Koba and Karin Konoval as Maurice the orangutan (she also played the clerk who argued with Franco about court dates in "Rise")? Will their stars "rise" since they are actors returning to a hit franchise? Or will they still be seen as glorified stunt people? If they get more billing priority, how will that affect who is cast as humans? Since the movie is reportedly about a "group of scientists" we might have some more interesting human casting announcements to come.
        Old school POTA didn't seem to have trouble getting top actors to don the makeup but such actors don't seem as eager to be covered over by CG. It would be interesting if "Dawn of the POTA" is a groundbreaker in advancing credit for CG performers. Really, there hasn't been a live-action movie with star billing for a CGer; I guess the female lead in "Avatar". I don't count "Tin Tin" since that was an animated film. We'll see where the cards land but for now I think the big "Dawn" casting announcements will be for human roles.
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      Group: potadg Message: 61883 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
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        As the casting announcements begin, I notice some are wondering if the new actors are playing humans or apes. Judging from "Rise" I think it's safe to say the "known" actors (like Jason Clarke and Kodi Smit-McPhee) are playing humans. In "Rise" the apes were cast from stunt people (or at least actors with a talent for physical movement). And they seemed lower on the cast totem pole. Even Andy Serkis came up last among the main actors (credited as "and Andy Serkis"). Reportedly Serkis is the star of the sequel, and getting a great payday, but what about the other ape actors, such as Terry Notary as Rocket, Chris Gordon as Koba and Karin Konoval as Maurice the orangutan (she also played the clerk who argued with Franco about court dates in "Rise")? Will their stars "rise" since they are actors returning to a hit franchise? Or will they still be seen as glorified stunt people? If they get more billing priority, how will that affect who is cast as humans? Since the movie is reportedly about a "group of scientists" we might have some more interesting human casting announcements to come.
        Old school POTA didn't seem to have trouble getting top actors to don the makeup but such actors don't seem as eager to be covered over by CG. It would be interesting if "Dawn of the POTA" is a groundbreaker in advancing credit for CG performers. Really, there hasn't been a live-action movie with star billing for a CGer; I guess the female lead in "Avatar". I don't count "Tin Tin" since that was an animated film. We'll see where the cards land but for now I think the big "Dawn" casting announcements will be for human roles.
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      Group: potadg Message: 61884 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
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        I came across this picture of Robin Williams wearing an "Ape Has Killed Ape" shirt.
       
       
        I also posted a while back of his admiration for "Rise of the POTA" (12/7/11, though the article seems to be gone now). He said, "(Caesar is) one of the most vivid characters I've seen in recent film history, and it's done with CG but with a person behind it, driving it, which is a wonderful combination of technology and humanity. Even though it's an ape, (Serkis) gives it such depth and it's just powerful".
       
       It's fun finding celebs who are "Apes" fans, and let's face it, we all love Robin Williams. I do, you do and she does. So how about it? Should Robin do a POTA movie? He's a famous comedian but he's also a heck of an actor (studied at Julliard, etc.). Would he stick out too much? He'd probably be the most famous person to appear in a POTA movie since Heston. The next POTA movie is Serkis' chance to shine and get star billing; he's earned it. I think Williams is at a point where he doesn't need star billing and would be happy to work in an ensemble, maybe a smaller role, if he likes the project.
       
       We're getting to the point where the casting announcements will be coming soon (with a March start date) so I'm just throwing that out there for some fun.
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      I'd really like to see the living original actors show up like Ron Harper, Naughton, Tim Roth etc. ;)

      From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:13 PM
      Subject: [PotaDG] casting "Dawn"
       
        As the casting announcements begin, I notice some are wondering if the new actors are playing humans or apes. Judging from "Rise" I think it's safe to say the "known" actors (like Jason Clarke and Kodi Smit-McPhee) are playing humans. In "Rise" the apes were cast from stunt people (or at least actors with a talent for physical movement). And they seemed lower on the cast totem pole. Even Andy Serkis came up last among the main actors (credited as "and Andy Serkis"). Reportedly Serkis is the star of the sequel, and getting a great payday, but what about the other ape actors, such as Terry Notary as Rocket, Chris Gordon as Koba and Karin Konoval as Maurice the orangutan (she also played the clerk who argued with Franco about court dates in "Rise")? Will their stars "rise" since they are actors returning to a hit franchise? Or will they still be seen as glorified stunt people? If they get more billing priority, how will that affect who is cast as humans? Since the movie is reportedly about a "group of scientists" we might have some more interesting human casting announcements to come.
        Old school POTA didn't seem to have trouble getting top actors to don the makeup but such actors don't seem as eager to be covered over by CG. It would be interesting if "Dawn of the POTA" is a groundbreaker in advancing credit for CG performers. Really, there hasn't been a live-action movie with star billing for a CGer; I guess the female lead in "Avatar". I don't count "Tin Tin" since that was an animated film. We'll see where the cards land but for now I think the big "Dawn" casting announcements will be for human roles.
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      Group: potadg Message: 61886 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/9/2013
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        Andy Serkis was at the Visual Effects Society Awards as a presenter a week ago and gave an update on the new POTA sequel. He had met with director Matt Reeves that day (2/5/13) and sez "we had a very exciting conversation about where the story's going. I think it's going to be an amazing film. Really incredible".
       He also places filming in the "2nd quarter of the year". Last I heard it was scheduled for March but I guess if it goes from late March to Juneish that would qualify as 2nd quarter. Anyway, it sounds like they are still working on the script/story. That's the latest from the "Dawn" Patrol.
       
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      Group: potadg Message: 61887 From: Sally and Michael Date: 3/9/2013
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        Williams could have played the part John Lithgow played in Rise IMHO.

         

        That’s a “A Bathing Ape” shirt Jeff.  While I also hope Mr Williams is a fan – he could just be trendy as all hell and wearing a “ABA” shirt to be cool!

         

        Michael

         

        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
        Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013 12:30 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Robin Williams: POTA fan?

         

         

          I came across this picture of Robin Williams wearing an "Ape Has Killed Ape" shirt.

         

         

          I also posted a while back of his admiration for "Rise of the POTA" (12/7/11, though the article seems to be gone now). He said, "(Caesar is) one of the most vivid characters I've seen in recent film history, and it's done with CG but with a person behind it, driving it, which is a wonderful combination of technology and humanity. Even though it's an ape, (Serkis) gives it such depth and it's just powerful".

         

         It's fun finding celebs who are "Apes" fans, and let's face it, we all love Robin Williams. I do, you do and she does. So how about it? Should Robin do a POTA movie? He's a famous comedian but he's also a heck of an actor (studied at Julliard, etc.). Would he stick out too much? He'd probably be the most famous person to appear in a POTA movie since Heston. The next POTA movie is Serkis' chance to shine and get star billing; he's earned it. I think Williams is at a point where he doesn't need star billing and would be happy to work in an ensemble, maybe a smaller role, if he likes the project.

         

         We're getting to the point where the casting announcements will be coming soon (with a March start date) so I'm just throwing that out there for some fun.

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        Group: potadg Message: 61889 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/12/2013
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          Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" is shooting in Ape-ril in Vancouver for 1/4rth of the shoot, and then will stay in New Orleans May 1st to July 14. They were also reportedly shooting in Florida but I don't see much recent sign of it. Break a leg, primates!
         
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 61890 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
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           Probably Gary Oldman got the Robin role in "Dawn" but who knows what else is left to cast (I sent this post 3 weeks ago).
           There's also this, I don't know if it's true.
         

        Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 1:05 PM
        Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Robin Williams: POTA fan?

         

        Williams could have played the part John Lithgow played in Rise IMHO.

        That’s a “A Bathing Ape” shirt Jeff.  While I also hope Mr Williams is a fan – he could just be trendy as all hell and wearing a “ABA” shirt to be cool!

        Michael

        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
        Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013 12:30 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Robin Williams: POTA fan?

         

          I came across this picture of Robin Williams wearing an "Ape Has Killed Ape" shirt.

          I also posted a while back of his admiration for "Rise of the POTA" (12/7/11, though the article seems to be gone now). He said, "(Caesar is) one of the most vivid characters I've seen in recent film history, and it's done with CG but with a person behind it, driving it, which is a wonderful combination of technology and humanity. Even though it's an ape, (Serkis) gives it such depth and it's just powerful".

         

         It's fun finding celebs who are "Apes" fans, and let's face it, we all love Robin Williams. I do, you do and she does. So how about it? Should Robin do a POTA movie? He's a famous comedian but he's also a heck of an actor (studied at Julliard, etc.). Would he stick out too much? He'd probably be the most famous person to appear in a POTA movie since Heston. The next POTA movie is Serkis' chance to shine and get star billing; he's earned it. I think Williams is at a point where he doesn't need star billing and would be happy to work in an ensemble, maybe a smaller role, if he likes the project.

         We're getting to the point where the casting announcements will be coming soon (with a March start date) so I'm just throwing that out there for some fun.

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        Group: potadg Message: 61891 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
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          It was a bumpy road to convince Fox to finance POTA but I think it's probable it would never have happened without the late Richard Zanuck. Of course there's a lot more to his career than that and it's about time there was a documentary about the late studio exec/producer. On May 8th Turner Classic Movies (TCM) will debut  documentary "Don't Say No Until I Finish Talking" about Zanuck, directed by Laurent Bouzereau and produced by Steven Spielberg, whose movie career took off under Zanuck ("The Sugarland Express", "Jaws"). There will be lots of people jawing about Zanuck. That includes Tim Burton, who started his professional relationship with him when Zanuck returned to POTA; they had a steady partnership for over 10 years. Lots of history to cover.
         
         
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 61892 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
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          Whatculture! provides an interview with "Rise" director Rupert Wyatt, including why he's not coming back. He sez: "I had a take on the sequel which didn't marry with the studio's". But there seems to be no hard feelings and Wyatt is thankful the studio gave him the opportunity (ape-ortunity?). As for the newbie, he adds: "Matt Reeves is a filmmaker, and a very good one". He also talks about his next project "Birdsong" and other things.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 61893 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
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          "Jack & the Beanstalk" or whatever it's called is the latest in a long line of studio approved "who gives an f"? flops to come down the pike. Those of us who have been waiting a decade for a GOOD  POTA movie were surprised that Fox almost reluctantly released "Rise" with a reported $100 million budget (Jack and the B.S.stalk cost $200 million). I remember saying over the past decade that POTA was Fox's "Spiderman" if they could get it together. "Rise"
         went on to make more than many other more celebrated franchises. It's no secret that studio execs are overpaid bean counters but once in a while I just explode and have to lash out at them. It remains to be seen what "Dawn of the POTA" will be like after they got rid of most of the people who made "Rise" a "surprise" hit (not a surprise to me once I heard the acclaim from the set and the actors; my take is fully recorded in this group's archives).
          How many studio execs does it take to change a light bulb? 50; one to change it and 49 to greenlight it.
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        Group: potadg Message: 61894 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
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          Wyatt had to sign a two-picture contract to get the "Rise" gig so I guess he had to at least try to make it. There's probably rules that a director can't be forced to make a movie that artistically they feel is compromised.

        Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 1:21 PM
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rise of the "Rise" people

         

        But would Wyatt have agreed to do the second movie if the first was that miserable? May be some exaggeration there perhaps?

        Animal Farm has a special place for me, I studied it in school and have to admit that the animated film still brings a tear to my eye, but yeah, that description of the new film really sounds like crap. I would hope for better from Andy Serkis and from a British indie film company.

        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." wrote:

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        > Next month "Dawn of the POTA" is supposed to shoot with a
        whole new crop of talented people in front of and behind the camera (except for the Ape Dept.). "Rise" director Rupert Wyatt has moved on but there seems to be more than meets the eye about his departure. Aintitcool reports they've heard he had "a miserable time on the 1st film and had to fight for every inch of goodness".
        >
        href="http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60778">http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60778
        > Reports at the time of release suggested a happy family, with Fox
        (especially Tom Rothman) giving Wyatt room to go beyond just a typical action movie (though they did tinker with it after test screenings and some interesting stuff, like the ape love interest, got left on the cutting room floor). I don't know what to think about "Dawn". Does Fox have more riding on it and is thus playing it safer? Did Wyatt get dismissed because they don't want to roll the dice on interesting ideas? All will be revealed after it's too late. And so, my children, we must be patient. And wait.
        > Meanwhile, the U.K. film company
        Embankment Films has snagged a couple of projects from the "Rise" folks. Such as Andy Serkis' directorial debut "Animal Farm", which Wyatt was once attached to but some directors are more equal than others. It's being written by Caroline Thompson, who did some of the better Tim Burton films. And it's described as "a family film told from the point of view of an adorable knee-high piglet", which sounds terrible. That is not "Animal Farm", which used an animal society for political satire (and got a shout out in the original POTA). I consider "Animal Farm" the grandfather of POTA and I was excited for Serkis and Wyatt to follow up a POTA movie with that. But a family film about a cute pig? Say it isn't so, Mr. Serkis.
        > Embankment also has Rupert Wyatt's new project, an
        adaptation of the modern British classic "Birdsong". He had tried to get that made before the "Rise" assignment. Hopefully now he has the clout to see it through. The book has a long history as a wannabe film and actually the "Rise" screenwriters also worked on it (with another director). Last year it was turned into a British TV miniseries but it deserves the feature film treatment and I'm glad to see Wyatt is back on it.
        >
        href="http://www.screendaily.com/news/embankment-boards-wyatts-birdsong-serkis-animal-farm-gillian-anderson-on-scifi/5051228.article">http://www.screendaily.com/news/embankment-boards-wyatts-birdsong-serkis-animal-farm-gillian-anderson-on-scifi/5051228.article
        > Hopefully Fox is doing the right thing and Wyatt's availability isn't
        at the expense of POTA.
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        Group: potadg Message: 61895 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/17/2013
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          Here it is, waiting for the next blu-ray. But gosh darn them all to hell for using the f word, so be warned.
         
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        I thought it was a real alternate ending lol

        Mel

        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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        > Here it is, waiting for the next blu-ray. But gosh darn them all to hell for using the f word, so be warned.
        >
        > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VGlR_GgasA
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        Group: potadg Message: 61897 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/19/2013
        Subject: Frank Capra Jr.'s Birthday, 3/20/2013, 12:00 am
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        Date:   Wednesday March 20, 2013
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        Notes:   Happy Birthday Frank!
        (Associate producer: Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971),
        Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) &
        Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973))
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 61898 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/21/2013
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        Beneath showing at a museum here in NC! I probably won't go as it's a 3 1/2 hour drive....!

        http://naturalsciences.org/programs-events/first-friday-beneath-planet-apes

        Tim
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        Group: potadg Message: 61899 From: Sally and Michael Date: 3/21/2013
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          3 ½ hours?!? LUXURY!!! J

           

          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
          Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013 7:53 AM
          To: POTA; POTA DG
          Subject: [PotaDG] Beneath showing at Museum in NC

           

           

          Beneath showing at a museum here in NC! I probably won't go as it's a 3 1/2 hour drive....!

           

          http://naturalsciences.org/programs-events/first-friday-beneath-planet-apes

           

          Tim

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          Group: potadg Message: 61900 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/21/2013
          Subject: M. Emmet Walsh's Birthday, 3/22/2013, 12:00 am
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          Notes:   Happy Birthday M!
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          Group: potadg Message: 61901 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/22/2013
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            Here's a local Vancouver news report about the upcoming invasion of the apes:
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 61902 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/22/2013
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            INfilm (the Vancouver Island North film commission) tweeted that "Dawn of the POTA" will film at Campbell River (the Salmon Capital of the World) during their Vancouver stay. It's not Lake Powell but it's a start. Thanks to @PlanetApesNews for the heads up.
            Meanwhile, Mark Bomback has put a Koba picture on his twitter page, suggesting he's still the screenwriter as they head to production (and that perhaps Koba plays a significant role in "Dawn", as if we didn't know). Bomback also did some script work on "Rise" (he's credited with Caesar drawing his window in his cage) but Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver got the screen credit. Now they are on "Jurassic Park 4" (also scheduled for Summer 2014) so probably they are less involved in "Dawn" (though still producers, which they deserve, since none of this would've happened without them).
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          Group: potadg Message: 61903 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/24/2013
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            I found this interview with "Dawn of the POTA" director Matt Reeves from Comic Con 2010. As a kid he was big on "Star Wars" (of course) and collected Corgi toy cars. But he also had Mego "Star Trek" and POTA stuff (including the treehouse). Probably he's the first POTA director who was a "POTA kid" ("Rise" director Rupert Wyatt seemed to have a more casual interest). So we'll see how that might inform his film.
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          Group: potadg Message: 61904 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/25/2013
          Subject: Mort Abrahams' Birthday, 3/26/2013, 12:00 am
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          Date:   Tuesday March 26, 2013
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          Notes:   Happy Birthday Mort!
          (Associate producer: Planet of the Apes (1968) & Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970))
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 61905 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/29/2013
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            The news that Judy Greer will play Cornelia in "Dawn of the POTA" brings some closure to one problem with "Rise". She was introduced and shown to be important to Caesar but they didn't follow through. The shot of the two embracing as seen in the trailer was cut out (presumably there was more to it than just a shot). Director Rupert Wyatt said they decided to leave it out because audiences might find it "too campy". So I guess it's a good sign that Cornelia's back in the sequel. Her intro in "Rise" will make more sense. Maybe half a $ billion at the box office bought Caesar some love. I'd still like to see that scene from "Rise" (which wasn't in the deleted scenes). Maybe they can use it as a flashback?
           
            Bon voyage to Devyn Dalton, who played Cornelia in "Rise". Because of her size, she played Caesar as a child at certain times. Would be cool if she could play Caesar and Cornelia's child. Judy Greer rocks, no problem there ("13 Going on 30" features Greer and Serkis together as humans). But it suggests they've had it with primitive apes and want to get into the talking and riding horses. This might be where Rupert Wyatt and Fox had a difference of opinion. I remember his concepts were more apecentric, with nary a human in sight. That would be more expensive, all apes all the time. Casting people like Gary Oldman means there's going to be significant humanage. That makes sense, cut the CG folks some slack. And Wyatt suggested a slower evolution but it sounds with Greer that Fox wants to start the ballgame. Apes talking, riding horses, wearing clothes, etc. That makes sense too from a franchise standpoint. That's why we're here, cut to the chase. Or maybe something in the middle? I just think casting a known actress (with no motion capture experience) as an ape is pretty significant. It's like being the first bird to be born without an egg! It's like being the first fish to be born on dry land! It's like being the first...
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             This article has a good picture of Cornelia.
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          Group: potadg Message: 61907 From: Chris Hight Date: 3/29/2013
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          Really cool. Serkis stepped up.

          From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:15 AM
          Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelia pic
           
             This article has a good picture of Cornelia.
             http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03/28/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-casts-judy-greer-as-a-chimp/
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          Subject: Ted Post's Birthday, 3/31/2013, 12:00 am
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          Date:   Sunday March 31, 2013
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          Notes:   Happy Birthday Ted!
          (Director: Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970))
           
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          These two pages are from the Oct. 2001 issue of "MakeUp Artist" magazine I got on ebay....
          Rare photos from POTA68 taken by makeup artist Don Cash Jr.
          Enjoy!
          Tim
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            "Dawn of the POTA" is scheduled to start shooting today, Ape-ril 2nd at the Campbell River area in Vancouver. And according to the twitterverse it looks like they are starting on schedule. "Dawn" stays in Vancouver for the month and then goes to New Orleans from May 1st to July 14. The first POTA sequel in 40 years is about to start.
            Doesn't it make you want to dance? Here's a clip from "13 Going on 30" with Judy "Cornelia" Greer (the blonde) and Andy "Caesar" Serkis (the dapper gentleman with the goatee) getting down!
           
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          These are awesome! Thanks for sharing them.


          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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          > These two pages are from the Oct. 2001 issue of "MakeUp Artist" magazine I got on ebay....
          > Rare photos from POTA68 taken by makeup artist Don Cash Jr.
          > Enjoy!
          > Tim
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 61912 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/9/2013
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            Interesting set going up in New Orleans. Ape headquarters?
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 61913 From: Tim Date: 4/12/2013
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          Tim
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          This is from the Variety review of "Scary Movie 5"....
          um.......pass......

          Talk about fast turnaround: Movies as recent as "Mama" and the "Evil Dead" remake find themselves sent up in "Scary Movie 5," the numbingly inane if cheerfully up-to-the-minute new entry in a franchise presumed to have breathed its last seven years ago. One scene inspired by "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" features a roomful of chimps hurling their feces at the wall, providing a perhaps unintended metaphor for the writing process behind this unwelcome resurrection. Still, insofar as past installments have proved frighteningly lucrative (more than $800 million worldwide), there may yet be some commercial life in this pop-culture barf bag.

          Tim



          From: Tim <apefan23@...>
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          Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:22 PM
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          Looks like there is a spoof of "Rise" in the new Scary movie! Somebody go see and tell us... Can't bring myself to!
          Tim





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          It certainly looks like it.

          From: Tim <apefan23@...>
          To: POTA group <pota@yahoogroups.com>; POTADG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:22 PM
          Subject: [PotaDG] Rise spoof in Scary Movie? [1 Attachment]
           
          Looks like there is a spoof of "Rise" in the new Scary movie! Somebody go see and tell us... Can't bring myself to!
          Tim

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          Group: potadg Message: 61916 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/13/2013
          Subject: Bradford Dillman's Birthday, 4/14/2013, 12:00 am
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          Date:   Sunday April 14, 2013
          Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
          Notes:   Happy Birthday Bradford!
          (Dr. Lewis Dixon: Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971))
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 61917 From: Dario Sciola Date: 4/15/2013
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          Primates is a new graphic novel coming out in June that will feature stories about researchers Jane Goodall, Dian Fossey, and Biruté Galdikas.
          (Yeah, I never heard about Galdikas before either.)

          http://boingboing.net/2013/04/15/exclusive-excerpt-primates.html"

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          Group: potadg Message: 61918 From: Tim Date: 4/28/2013
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          Tonight on Mad Men, after the assassination of Martin Luther King, with NYC in unrest, Don Draper took his son to see Planet of the Apes! They showed the scene in the cages where Zaius says "Man has no understanding..." and the end...
          Should be online soon....
          Tim
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          Group: potadg Message: 61919 From: Tim Date: 4/28/2013
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          And here's Don with some reading material after the movie!! 

          image.jpeg

          On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:

           

          Tonight on Mad Men, after the assassination of Martin Luther King, with NYC in unrest, Don Draper took his son to see Planet of the Apes! They showed the scene in the cages where Zaius says "Man has no understanding..." and the end...
          Should be online soon....
          Tim

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          Group: potadg Message: 61920 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/11/2013
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           I've been having e-mail troubles lately but I've got to give an attaboy to Al Ruiz. Nobody has worked harder to provide info on the recent "Rise of the POTA" and now "Dawn". I've just been pleased and incredibly grateful of his coverage of his fave movies starting with POTA2001. I don't think Al gets the credit he deserves. Now it looks like his "Dawn" updates have been booted off Twitter. I don't know why but it's ridiculous (even Zauis would think so). Meanwhile, you can check out www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes for the latest. And thank you Al!
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          Group: potadg Message: 61921 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/13/2013
          Subject: Tom Scott's Birthday, 5/14/2013, 12:00 am
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          Date:   Tuesday May 14, 2013
          Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
          Notes:   Happy Birthday Tom!
          (Composer: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972))
           
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          Notes:   Happy Birthday Tim!
          (Thade, POTA 2001)
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 61923 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/14/2013
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            Imdb has listed the editors for "Dawn of the POTA". They are William Hoy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398343/ ) and Stan Salfas ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758159/  ). Salfas comes more from TV, but he's worked often with director Matt Reeves on "Felicity", "Let Me In" and his first flick "The Pallbearer". So he's a comfort zone for Reeves. Hoy has done movies like "Dances With Wolves", "Patriot Games", "We Were Soldiers" (which featured actress Keri Russell), "300" and "Watchmen", as well as some Fox action flicks like "Fantastic 4" and "I, Robot".
            "Rise" had the benefit of James Cameron's editors Conrad Buff and Mark Goldblatt, just as it had WETA- friendly director of photography Andrew Lesnie. These were safe choices for movie that was something of an experiment (and with something of an inexperienced director). "Dawn" seems to be stretching it's legs more. It doesn't need as much of a safety net from particular experts.
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          Group: potadg Message: 61924 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/14/2013
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            Hey Jeffers,

             

            On a Facebook group, people were talking about the latest screening of POTA in Hollywood where there were many key POTA people and I believe you tapes the talks and did a transcript that you loaded to the DG?

             

            Any chance you could help me relocate this or resend?

            Michael

             

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
            Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 7:12 AM
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

             

             

              Imdb has listed the editors for "Dawn of the POTA". They are William Hoy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398343/ ) and Stan Salfas ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758159/  ). Salfas comes more from TV, but he's worked often with director Matt Reeves on "Felicity", "Let Me In" and his first flick "The Pallbearer". So he's a comfort zone for Reeves. Hoy has done movies like "Dances With Wolves", "Patriot Games", "We Were Soldiers" (which featured actress Keri Russell), "300" and "Watchmen", as well as some Fox action flicks like "Fantastic 4" and "I, Robot".

              "Rise" had the benefit of James Cameron's editors Conrad Buff and Mark Goldblatt, just as it had WETA- friendly director of photography Andrew Lesnie. These were safe choices for movie that was something of an experiment (and with something of an inexperienced director). "Dawn" seems to be stretching it's legs more. It doesn't need as much of a safety net from particular experts.

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            Group: potadg Message: 61925 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/14/2013
            Subject: composer Giacchino doing "Dawn of the POTA"
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              This is no shocker, because of Michael Giacchino's relationship with director Matt Reeves and Reeves' childhood buddy J. J. Abrams, but Giacchino tweeted that he's doing the music for "Dawn of the POTA". I've been a fan of his since "Alias" a decade ago. He was doing video game music when J. J. Abrams invited him aboard "Alias". He went on to be Abrams' main composer of TV ("Alias", "Lost", "Fringe") and movies ("Mission: Impossible 3", "Star Trek", "Super 8", "Star Trek Into Darkness"). Matt Reeves did "Cloverfield" for J. J. and Giacchino did the end credit music and now it looks like Giacchino and Reeves are a team too ("Let Me In"). Giacchino is also the main composer for Pixar and won the Oscar for "Up".
              Giacchino is one of my faves and when "Rise" was gearing up I asked him if he was going to do it. I'd heard he was a POTA fan and he told me he is, he loves all of it; the movies, the TV show, the cartoons. But he wasn't asked to do "Rise". I loved Patrick Doyle's music for "Rise" and would have been happy if he returned. But I love Giacchino's stuff too and can't wait to hear what he comes up with (maybe his closest would be "Lost" with it's jungle boogie/sci-fi weirdness). "Dawn" is Matt Reeve's film and it's his choice.
             
             Here's my fave Giacchino track for a Matt Reeves film:
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            Group: potadg Message: 61926 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/15/2013
            Subject: Re: "Dawn" of the editors
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              I did a transcript of the 2/3/04 35th anniversary screening but I can only get to June 2004 in the archives.

            Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:10 PM
            Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

             

            Hey Jeffers,

            On a Facebook group, people were talking about the latest screening of POTA in Hollywood where there were many key POTA people and I believe you tapes the talks and did a transcript that you loaded to the DG?

            Any chance you could help me relocate this or resend?

            Michael

            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
            Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 7:12 AM
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

             

              Imdb has listed the editors for "Dawn of the POTA". They are William Hoy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398343/ ) and Stan Salfas ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758159/  ). Salfas comes more from TV, but he's worked often with director Matt Reeves on "Felicity", "Let Me In" and his first flick "The Pallbearer". So he's a comfort zone for Reeves. Hoy has done movies like "Dances With Wolves", "Patriot Games", "We Were Soldiers" (which featured actress Keri Russell), "300" and "Watchmen", as well as some Fox action flicks like "Fantastic 4" and "I, Robot".

              "Rise" had the benefit of James Cameron's editors Conrad Buff and Mark Goldblatt, just as it had WETA- friendly director of photography Andrew Lesnie. These were safe choices for movie that was something of an experiment (and with something of an inexperienced director). "Dawn" seems to be stretching it's legs more. It doesn't need as much of a safety net from particular experts.

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            Group: potadg Message: 61927 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/16/2013
            Subject: Hey Jeff.....
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              No it was a marathon screening recently in LA….

               

              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
              Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2013 4:15 AM
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

               

               

                I did a transcript of the 2/3/04 35th anniversary screening but I can only get to June 2004 in the archives.

               

              Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:10 PM

              Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

               

               

              Hey Jeffers,

              On a Facebook group, people were talking about the latest screening of POTA in Hollywood where there were many key POTA people and I believe you tapes the talks and did a transcript that you loaded to the DG?

              Any chance you could help me relocate this or resend?

              Michael

              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
              Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 7:12 AM
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

               

                Imdb has listed the editors for "Dawn of the POTA". They are William Hoy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398343/ ) and Stan Salfas ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758159/  ). Salfas comes more from TV, but he's worked often with director Matt Reeves on "Felicity", "Let Me In" and his first flick "The Pallbearer". So he's a comfort zone for Reeves. Hoy has done movies like "Dances With Wolves", "Patriot Games", "We Were Soldiers" (which featured actress Keri Russell), "300" and "Watchmen", as well as some Fox action flicks like "Fantastic 4" and "I, Robot".

                "Rise" had the benefit of James Cameron's editors Conrad Buff and Mark Goldblatt, just as it had WETA- friendly director of photography Andrew Lesnie. These were safe choices for movie that was something of an experiment (and with something of an inexperienced director). "Dawn" seems to be stretching it's legs more. It doesn't need as much of a safety net from particular experts.

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              Group: potadg Message: 61928 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2013
              Subject: Bobby Porter's Birthday, 5/17/2013, 12:00 am
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              Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
               
              Title:   Bobby Porter's Birthday
               
              Date:   Friday May 17, 2013
              Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
              Notes:   Happy Birthday Bobby!
              (Cornelius, Son of Caesar: Battle
              Arno: Escape from Tomorrow, POTA TV Episode
              Remus: The Good Seeds, POTA TV Episode)
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 61929 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2013
              Subject: The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) published , 5/17/2013,
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              Title:   The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) published
               
              Date:   Friday May 17, 2013
              Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
              Notes:   The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) by Pierre Boulle was published on this day in 1963.
              Thanks for getting the ball rolling Pierre!
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 61930 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2013
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                 That was posted on 2/19/12.

              Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:26 AM
              Subject: [PotaDG] Hey Jeff.....

               

              No it was a marathon screening recently in LA….

              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
              Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2013 4:15 AM
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

               

                I did a transcript of the 2/3/04 35th anniversary screening but I can only get to June 2004 in the archives.

              Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:10 PM

              Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

               

              Hey Jeffers,

              On a Facebook group, people were talking about the latest screening of POTA in Hollywood where there were many key POTA people and I believe you tapes the talks and did a transcript that you loaded to the DG?

              Any chance you could help me relocate this or resend?

              Michael

              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
              Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 7:12 AM
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

               

                Imdb has listed the editors for "Dawn of the POTA". They are William Hoy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398343/ ) and Stan Salfas ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758159/  ). Salfas comes more from TV, but he's worked often with director Matt Reeves on "Felicity", "Let Me In" and his first flick "The Pallbearer". So he's a comfort zone for Reeves. Hoy has done movies like "Dances With Wolves", "Patriot Games", "We Were Soldiers" (which featured actress Keri Russell), "300" and "Watchmen", as well as some Fox action flicks like "Fantastic 4" and "I, Robot".

                "Rise" had the benefit of James Cameron's editors Conrad Buff and Mark Goldblatt, just as it had WETA- friendly director of photography Andrew Lesnie. These were safe choices for movie that was something of an experiment (and with something of an inexperienced director). "Dawn" seems to be stretching it's legs more. It doesn't need as much of a safety net from particular experts.

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              Group: potadg Message: 61931 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/16/2013
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                Thanks Jeff

                 

                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
                Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 9:05 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Hey Jeff.....

                 

                 

                   That was posted on 2/19/12.

                 

                Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:26 AM

                Subject: [PotaDG] Hey Jeff.....

                 

                 

                No it was a marathon screening recently in LA….

                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
                Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2013 4:15 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

                 

                  I did a transcript of the 2/3/04 35th anniversary screening but I can only get to June 2004 in the archives.

                Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:10 PM

                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

                 

                Hey Jeffers,

                On a Facebook group, people were talking about the latest screening of POTA in Hollywood where there were many key POTA people and I believe you tapes the talks and did a transcript that you loaded to the DG?

                Any chance you could help me relocate this or resend?

                Michael

                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
                Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 7:12 AM
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" of the editors

                 

                  Imdb has listed the editors for "Dawn of the POTA". They are William Hoy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398343/ ) and Stan Salfas ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758159/  ). Salfas comes more from TV, but he's worked often with director Matt Reeves on "Felicity", "Let Me In" and his first flick "The Pallbearer". So he's a comfort zone for Reeves. Hoy has done movies like "Dances With Wolves", "Patriot Games", "We Were Soldiers" (which featured actress Keri Russell), "300" and "Watchmen", as well as some Fox action flicks like "Fantastic 4" and "I, Robot".

                  "Rise" had the benefit of James Cameron's editors Conrad Buff and Mark Goldblatt, just as it had WETA- friendly director of photography Andrew Lesnie. These were safe choices for movie that was something of an experiment (and with something of an inexperienced director). "Dawn" seems to be stretching it's legs more. It doesn't need as much of a safety net from particular experts.

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                Group: potadg Message: 61932 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2013
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                   I guess May 17 is as close to a publication date that we have for Boulle's 1963 novel "Planet of the Apes". The date appears on the timeline for the 35th anniversary DVD of POTA68. That would be in France, I guess. The book arrived in the U.S. around the time of the JFK assassination.
                  Anyway, I guess a half century is something to go ape about. And things are looking good for the concept, it's still a big deal. It's a story that still resonates. Thank you, Pierre Boulle!
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                Group: potadg Message: 61933 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/20/2013
                Subject: Escape Premier, 5/21/2013, 12:00 am
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                Title:   Escape Premier
                 
                Date:   Tuesday May 21, 2013
                Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
                Notes:   The movie Escape from the planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1971
                 
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                Group: potadg Message: 61934 From: Sally and Michael Date: 5/22/2013
                Subject: Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)
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                GOOD NEWS FROM HUNTER!

                ·         Hi, all!

                Believe it or not, after some seven years in the making, I've finally released the final Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)!!

                For screenshots of each of the menus (and to see what's on the disc), visit my Apes site at the URL below:

                https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities3/

                There are two ways you can get the DVDs:

                - You can arrange with James to send him blank discs and return postage, and he'll copy the discs and return them to you. If you want to pursue this, contact James at JamesA1102@... .  You can purchase the blank DVDs from Greg P. For people in the U.S., this works out to $3.50. NOTE: YOU ARE PAYING ONLY FOR THE DISCS, THE PACKAGING, AND THE POSTAGE. ABSOLUTELY NO PROFIT IS BEING DERIVED FROM THIS SET. You can send the money via PayPal
                to Greg at urko3085@...

                If you want the first two Rarities DVDs, $6 to Greg will get you a set of all four discs. For non-U.S. residents, contact Greg to work it out.

                Many thanks to all of those who contributed the content for these discs. I honestly don't remember all the details of who contributed what, so I'm not even going to try to name names. They can step forward for the credit, if they want. But these discs wouldn't have been possible without them!!

                Thanks!

                Hunter

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                Group: potadg Message: 61935 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/23/2013
                Subject: Dawn of the one year countdown
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                  Hard to believe but it's been almost 2 years since "Rise of the POTA", and the Memorial Day weekend marks one year to go before it's sequel. That's right, "Dawn of the POTA" is getting a primo Memorial Day release (unless Fox blinks), suggesting the studio has a lot of faith in it. It's a far cry from the tepid release of "Rise" in the wilds of August.
                   What's that you say, you didn't like "Rise"? Doesn't matter; it's a new director and a new vision. Almost everybody on the film is new to the POTA. We're all starting fresh (but those who don't like CG apes are out of luck). A year from now we might yearn for the "Rise" team if it sucks, or it might be better than our wildest dreams (well, not the dreams of those who want makeup). There's not much else to say, they are deep into filming in New Orleans until mid-July and what they are making will slowly be unveiled in the coming year. Maybe we'll get a tease during Comic-Con in late July but probably our first look will be around Christmas.
                  Anyway, I think the one year mark is fun to ponder, the difference between "it'll never get here!" and "it's coming!". Thank you for your attention.
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                Group: potadg Message: 61936 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2013
                Subject: Beneath Premier, 5/26/2013, 12:00 am
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                Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
                 
                Title:   Beneath Premier
                 
                Date:   Sunday May 26, 2013
                Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
                Notes:   The movie Beneath the Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1970
                 
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                Group: potadg Message: 61937 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2013
                Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday, 5/26/2013, 12:00 am
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                Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
                 
                Title:   Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday
                 
                Date:   Sunday May 26, 2013
                Time:   12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
                Notes:   Happy Birthday Helena!
                (Ari: POTA 2001)
                 
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                Group: potadg Message: 61938 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/25/2013
                Subject: dawn, dirty "Apes" set photos
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                   Here's what the environs look like in New Orleans where "Dawn of the POTA" is filming. Welcome to the jungle.
                 
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