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Dates: 2013-05-26 through 2013-07-30

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Group: potadg	Message: 61939	From: Tim	Date: 5/26/2013
Subject: Fwd: Tweet from King Kong (@KingKongStage)

Group: potadg	Message: 61940	From: Jeff K.	Date: 5/26/2013
Subject: What about Koba?

Group: potadg	Message: 61941	From: Jeff K.	Date: 5/26/2013
Subject: sound ideas on the POTA

Group: potadg	Message: 61942	From: Tim	Date: 5/27/2013
Subject: KONG LIVES!

Group: potadg	Message: 61943	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 5/27/2013
Subject: Re: dawn, dirty "Apes" set photos

Group: potadg	Message: 61944	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 5/28/2013
Subject: Danny Elfman's Birthday, 5/29/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61945	From: Jeff K.	Date: 5/28/2013
Subject: "POTA and Philosophy" book

Group: potadg	Message: 61946	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 5/29/2013
Subject: Franklin J. Schaffner's Birthday, 5/30/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61947	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/1/2013
Subject: cool "Dawn" set

Group: potadg	Message: 61948	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/1/2013
Subject: more set pics

Group: potadg	Message: 61949	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/2/2013
Subject: Maurice Evans' Birthday, 6/3/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61950	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/2/2013
Subject: Maurice Evans' Birthday, 6/3/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61951	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 6/2/2013
Subject: OT - DAN FOWLER G-Man Vol II (shameless plug by the interior illustr

Group: potadg	Message: 61952	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/3/2013
Subject: Apeja vu?

Group: potadg	Message: 61953	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: say it, don't spray it

Group: potadg	Message: 61954	From: Chris Hight	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: Re: Apeja vu?

Group: potadg	Message: 61955	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: Mark Wahlberg's Birthday, 6/5/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61956	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: Mark Wahlberg's Birthday, 6/5/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61957	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/5/2013
Subject: Paul Giamatti's Birthday, 6/6/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61958	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/5/2013
Subject: Paul Giamatti's Birthday, 6/6/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61959	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/5/2013
Subject: Dawn's Fringe benefit

Group: potadg	Message: 61960	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/7/2013
Subject: POTA comic strip

Group: potadg	Message: 61961	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/8/2013
Subject: You can't keep a good ape down

Group: potadg	Message: 61962	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/11/2013
Subject: Darryl Gregory's BOOM! POTA continuity ends in September

Group: potadg	Message: 61963	From: mlccougar	Date: 6/12/2013
Subject: Re: Darryl Gregory's BOOM! POTA continuity ends in September

Group: potadg	Message: 61964	From: Chris Hight	Date: 6/12/2013
Subject: Re: Darryl Gregory's BOOM! POTA continuity ends in September

Group: potadg	Message: 61965	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/14/2013
Subject: Battle premier, 6/15/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61966	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/14/2013
Subject: 40 years of "Battle"

Group: potadg	Message: 61967	From: Jeff Barkley	Date: 6/14/2013
Subject: Re: 40 years of "Battle"

Group: potadg	Message: 61968	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 6/15/2013
Subject: Re: dawn, dirty "Apes" set photos

Group: potadg	Message: 61969	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/15/2013
Subject: "We want guns!"

Group: potadg	Message: 61970	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/18/2013
Subject: License to Thrill

Group: potadg	Message: 61971	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/20/2013
Subject: Lalo Schifrin's Birthday, 6/21/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61972	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/20/2013
Subject: "Dawn" pushed back to 7/18/14

Group: potadg	Message: 61973	From: Dario	Date: 6/22/2013
Subject: Apetown blueprint on eBay

Group: potadg	Message: 61974	From: john.rutkoski	Date: 6/23/2013
Subject: apes can't talk

Group: potadg	Message: 61975	From: Tim	Date: 6/23/2013
Subject: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

Group: potadg	Message: 61976	From: mlccougar	Date: 6/24/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

Group: potadg	Message: 61977	From: john.rutkoski	Date: 6/25/2013
Subject: your not getting it

Group: potadg	Message: 61978	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/25/2013
Subject: breaking up (sets) is hard to do

Group: potadg	Message: 61979	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/28/2013
Subject: Conquest premier, 6/29/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61980	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/29/2013
Subject: Suddenly, Cornelia

Group: potadg	Message: 61981	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/30/2013
Subject: Michael Wilson's Birthday, 7/1/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61982	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/1/2013
Subject: next stop: the ape village

Group: potadg	Message: 61983	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

Group: potadg	Message: 61984	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

Group: potadg	Message: 61985	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

Group: potadg	Message: 61986	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

Group: potadg	Message: 61987	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

Group: potadg	Message: 61988	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

Group: potadg	Message: 61989	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

Group: potadg	Message: 61990	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

Group: potadg	Message: 61991	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

Group: potadg	Message: 61992	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

Group: potadg	Message: 61993	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/9/2013
Subject: Two weeks to go

Group: potadg	Message: 61994	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/9/2013
Subject: Evolution blu ray set

Group: potadg	Message: 61995	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Evolution blu ray set

Group: potadg	Message: 61996	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Evolution blu ray set

Group: potadg	Message: 61997	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Evolution blu ray set

Group: potadg	Message: 61998	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Exclusive Comic-Con POTA blu-ray

Group: potadg	Message: 61999	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Let there be blacklight

Group: potadg	Message: 62000	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Let there be blacklight

Group: potadg	Message: 62001	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/12/2013
Subject: "Dawn" coming to Comic-Con

Group: potadg	Message: 62002	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/12/2013
Subject: first look at the ape village

Group: potadg	Message: 62003	From: Dario Sciola	Date: 7/14/2013
Subject: Simian Scrolls PDF files

Group: potadg	Message: 62004	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/15/2013
Subject: Leon Shamroy's Birthday, 7/16/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 62005	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/17/2013
Subject: Matt Reeves talks "Dawn of the POTA"

Group: potadg	Message: 62006	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/17/2013
Subject: some pics

Group: potadg	Message: 62007	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/18/2013
Subject: Matt Reeves talks "Dawn of the POTA"

Group: potadg	Message: 62008	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/18/2013
Subject: "Dawn" prequel comic

Group: potadg	Message: 62009	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: Simian flu alert

Group: potadg	Message: 62010	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: "Dawn" prequel cover art

Group: potadg	Message: 62011	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" prequel cover art

Group: potadg	Message: 62012	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: a hot time in the old town last night

Group: potadg	Message: 62013	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" prequel cover art

Group: potadg	Message: 62014	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2013
Subject: "Dawn" panel video

Group: potadg	Message: 62015	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2013
Subject: "Dawn" at Comic-Con

Group: potadg	Message: 62016	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2013
Subject: Let's get Neca-ed!

Group: potadg	Message: 62017	From: Chris Hight	Date: 7/22/2013
Subject: Re: Let's get Neca-ed!

Group: potadg	Message: 62018	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/23/2013
Subject: Linda Harrison's Birthday, 7/24/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 62019	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 7/24/2013
Subject: Re: Matt Reeves talks "Dawn of the POTA"

Group: potadg	Message: 62020	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2013
Subject: "Dawn" press conference (possible spoilers)

Group: potadg	Message: 62021	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2013
Subject: That's a wrap!

Group: potadg	Message: 62022	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/25/2013
Subject: William Creber's Birthday, 7/26/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 62023	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/25/2013
Subject: "Dawn" shirt at Comic-Con

Group: potadg	Message: 62024	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: "Dawn" director talks James Franco (possible spoilers)

Group: potadg	Message: 62025	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Fox theme park?!

Group: potadg	Message: 62026	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Planet of the Apes 2001premier, 7/27/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 62027	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes 2001premier, 7/27/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 62028	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Planet of the Apes 2001premier, 7/27/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 62029	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: "Dawn": Oh, the humanity!

Group: potadg	Message: 62030	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: "Dawn": the San Francisco treat

Group: potadg	Message: 62031	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/27/2013
Subject: "Dawn" gallery

Group: potadg	Message: 62032	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/27/2013
Subject: "Dawn", dirty interview gallery

Group: potadg	Message: 62033	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/27/2013
Subject: the streets of San Francisco

Group: potadg	Message: 62034	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/28/2013
Subject: getting the runaround

Group: potadg	Message: 62035	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/28/2013
Subject: David Warner's Birthday, 7/29/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 62036	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/28/2013
Subject: "Dawn", dooby doo, "Dawn", "Dawn"

Group: potadg	Message: 62037	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/29/2013
Subject: "Dawn" Comic-Con trailer review

Group: potadg	Message: 62038	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/30/2013
Subject: Don Murray's Birthday, 7/31/2013, 12:00 am

Group: potadg	Message: 61939	From: Tim	Date: 5/26/2013
Subject: Fwd: Tweet from King Kong (@KingKongStage)

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Check out the last few seconds of this interview!
Michael, have you seen much press on this? I want it to come to the states!

Tim

King Kong (@KingKongStage)
5/26/13, 5:38 AM
Wow what a story Sunday Night! For more see below.

See you at the Regent Theatre - previews start Tuesday! fb.me/JvwfMYT5

Download the official Twitter app here

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Group: potadg	Message: 61940	From: Jeff K.	Date: 5/26/2013
Subject: What about Koba?

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I think it's a given that Koba will be the villain in "Dawn of the POTA" (screenwriter Mark Bomback has a picture of him on his twitter page). Most of the apes have already been accounted for. Imdb lists Andy Serkis as Caesar, Karin Konoval returns as Maurice the orangutan, Terry Notary is back as Rocket. But actor/stuntman Chris Gordon played Koba in "Rise" and he's doing the new "Godzilla". Are they going to cast someone else like they did Judy Greer as Cornelia? Do we still have a cool casting surprise left?

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Group: potadg	Message: 61941	From: Jeff K.	Date: 5/26/2013
Subject: sound ideas on the POTA

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Here's a Soundworks video about creating the audio pleasures for "Rise of the POTA":

http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/riseofapes

And while we're at it, here's the Soundworks vid of new POTA composer Michael Giacchino scoring the current "Star Trek":

http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/the-music-of-star-trek-into-darkness

An d while we're REALLY at it, here's Giacchino talking "Star Trek" (and giving a shout out to his POTA toys):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Co8dZKei8

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Group: potadg	Message: 61942	From: Tim	Date: 5/27/2013
Subject: KONG LIVES!

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.htmlA better look at the new Kong - live on stage! http://fb.me/1GuIIuc1a

Tim

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Group: potadg	Message: 61943	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 5/27/2013
Subject: Re: dawn, dirty "Apes" set photos

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I like the look of these actually. Reminds me of some of the city sets from the TV series, and also of this documentary I saw a few years ago (I think I mentioned it at the time) about an Earth suddenly devoid of humans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XDbcMND7fY

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's what the environs look like in New Orleans where "Dawn of the POTA" is filming. Welcome to the jungle.
>
> http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80280
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61944	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 5/28/2013
Subject: Danny Elfman's Birthday, 5/29/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Danny Elfman's Birthday

Date:		Wednesday May 29, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Danny! (Composer: POTA 2001)

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Group: potadg	Message: 61945	From: Jeff K.	Date: 5/28/2013
Subject: "POTA and Philosophy" book

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There's not a huge library of POTA books out there like there is for such popular franchises as "Star Wars", "Star Trek" or "Lord of the Rings". But POTA has managed to dip it's feet into some interesting takes. There's a book about it's politics, a collectibles book, a chronology, an encyclopedia, a well researched history. And now there's a book about it's philosophy. What's left? I think it would lend itself to one of those big coffee table books with nice color pictures and posters. And I've always thought it would be a natural for one of those "The Science of..." books.

"POTA and Philosophy" hits today.

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/heldenfiles/the-heldenfiles-online-1.25835/ua-faculty-members-assembles-planet-of-the-apes-and-philosophy-book-1.401375

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Group: potadg	Message: 61946	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 5/29/2013
Subject: Franklin J. Schaffner's Birthday, 5/30/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Franklin J. Schaffner's Birthday

Date:		Thursday May 30, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Franklin! (Director: Planet of the Apes (1968))

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Group: potadg	Message: 61947	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/1/2013
Subject: cool "Dawn" set

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Check out this puppy. There's also some spoilers about what happens here on imdb. I'll just say it sounds very much like the "Battle" dynamic, but set in old human surroundings.

http://instagram.com/p/Zy3MwmFCtY/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 61948	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/1/2013
Subject: more set pics

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I don't think these give away spoilers, they are just the surroundings.

http://instagram.com/p/Z3kQNQMzPY/ #

http://instagram.com/p/Z3bn1sm0Nc/ #

http://instagram.com/p/Z3cIJfm0OG/#

http://instagram.com/p/Z1ClbPNHrp/ #

http://instagram.com/p/Z1CLv0NHrE/ #

http://instagram.com/p/ZaloYhlCmS/ #

Michoud NASA faciility:

http://instagram.com/p/ZofNEyIvhR/ #

https://www.facebook.com/hermanhj/posts/10151655691654668

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Group: potadg	Message: 61949	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/2/2013
Subject: Maurice Evans' Birthday, 6/3/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Maurice Evans' Birthday

Date:		Monday June 3, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Maurice! (Dr. Zaius: Planet and Beneath)

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Group: potadg	Message: 61950	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/2/2013
Subject: Maurice Evans' Birthday, 6/3/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Maurice Evans' Birthday

Date:		Monday June 3, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Maurice! (Dr. Zaius: Planet and Beneath)

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Group: potadg	Message: 61951	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 6/2/2013
Subject: OT - DAN FOWLER G-Man Vol II (shameless plug by the interior illustr

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Just wanted to let those who may be interested that the book I've just spent the last year or so (interrupted by family medical emergencies) doing 12 illustrations for, has just been released by Airship 27 Productions (http://www.airship27.com/)

THE ACE G-MAN RETURNS!

Airship 27 Productions is thrilled to announce their fifth release of the year; DAN FOWLER G-Man Vol II. Volume One was published two years ago and well received by pulp fans warranting a second foray into the world of this classic tough guy federal agent.

One of the greatest pulp heroes of old returns in four gun-blazing new adventures. Dan Fowler, ace investigator for the FBI, is back action, this time facing off against quartet of deadly villains; from a hideous monkey faced gang boss to avenging the murder of an uncover agent. Along the way he'll team up with a colorful assortment of allies from a sexy jewel thief to the none other than Jim Anthony, the Super Detective.

Writers Derrick Ferguson, Aaron Smith, Joshua Reynolds and B.C. Bell have whipped up four of the most fast paced, nail biting crime thrillers ever to grace any pulp collection. Dan Fowler is an iconic pulp hero who, during the course of his original series, battled criminals and outlaws from rural hick bootleggers to the organized syndicates of New York and Chicago.

"Dan Fowler was by far one of the most successful classic pulp characters ever created," declares Airship 27 Productions' Managing Editor, Ron Fortier. "If you start talking about any kind of crime fighting series, pulp fans will immediately bring up his name. It is synonymous with this particular genre of pulps. He was pretty much the Dick Tracy of the pulps. Airship 27 Productions is thrilled to be bringing him back into the spotlight of new pulp fiction with these original thrill-a-minutes tales."

Wrapped up by a gorgeous cover from Brian McCulloch and featuring wonderful black and white interior illustrations by Neil T. Foster, DAN FOWLER G-MAN Vol II was designed by Rob Davis and edited by Ron Fortier. So move over Elliot Ness and Melvin Purvis, here comes the great G-Man of them all, DAN FOWLER!!!

AIRSHIP 27 PRODUCTIONS PULP FICTION FOR A NEW GENERATION!

http://www.facebook.com/notes/airship-27-productions/dan-fowler-g-man-vol-ii/10151607619584430

Cheers,
Neil T.

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Group: potadg	Message: 61952	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/3/2013
Subject: Apeja vu?

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Here's a behind the scenes shot of the POTA TV series. No it's not, it's the new movie.

http://instagram.com/p/aHBUoOEOGF/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 61953	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: say it, don't spray it

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I'm digging the graffiti on the sets. It really looks like the humans have gone through 15 years of hell. Here's one with "ALZ 113" scribbled on it.

I think the zones are the quarantine areas the humans created.

https://twitter.com/AndrewStemerman/status/341602956493348864/photo/1

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Group: potadg	Message: 61954	From: Chris Hight	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: Re: Apeja vu?

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It really looks neat.

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 9:54 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Apeja vu?

Here's a behind the scenes shot of the POTA TV series. No it's not, it's the new movie.

http://instagram.com/p/aHBUoOEOGF/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 61955	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: Mark Wahlberg's Birthday, 6/5/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Mark Wahlberg's Birthday

Date:		Wednesday June 5, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Mark!

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Group: potadg	Message: 61956	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/4/2013
Subject: Mark Wahlberg's Birthday, 6/5/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Mark Wahlberg's Birthday

Date:		Wednesday June 5, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Mark!

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Group: potadg	Message: 61957	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/5/2013
Subject: Paul Giamatti's Birthday, 6/6/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Paul Giamatti's Birthday

Date:		Thursday June 6, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Paul! (Limbo: POTA 2001)

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Group: potadg	Message: 61958	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/5/2013
Subject: Paul Giamatti's Birthday, 6/6/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Paul Giamatti's Birthday

Date:		Thursday June 6, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Paul! (Limbo: POTA 2001)

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Group: potadg	Message: 61959	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/5/2013
Subject: Dawn's Fringe benefit

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I brought up before the fictional drink Slusho! and it's legacy in the films of Matt "Dawn of the POTA" Reeves. It's a kind of in-joke for his buddy J.J. Abrams' stuff, making it's first appearance in the 2nd episode of "Alias" in 2001 (the year Tim Burton's POTA movie came out; Whoa!). Nothing more was made of it until I guess they decided to resurrect it for "Cloverfield" (produced by Abrams, directed by Reeves) in 2008. Slusho! was a big part of it's guerrilla marketing campaign and a major character wore a Slusho! T-shirt in the film. Meanwhile, they decided to cross-pollinate it in shows like "Heroes" and "Fringe", and it appeared as well in Abrams' films "Star Trek" and "Super 8". But mostly Reeves seems to have adopted it. His film "Cloverfield" is considered THE Slusho! production. And he went on to portray it prominently in his next (non-Abrams) film "Let Me In". In fact it determines the fate of a major character.

So? Well, perchance there will be a Slusho! reference in his next film, which happens to be "Dawn of the POTA". Now how much would you pay? But wait, there's more! Anyone here seen the Abrams show "Fringe"? Raise your hands. No one? I've been catching the reruns on the Science Channel. It's a pretty good sci-fi series, good acting, good characters, fits in well with Abrams' other big arc shows like "Alias" and "Lost". Especially for people who like "X-Files" stuff.

Anyway, Reeves has cast one of the actors from "Fringe", Kirk Acevedo (he played Charlie), in "Dawn" (he plays Carver). Not only that but Acevedo had probably the ultimate Slusho! moment on "Fringe". His character was replaced by a "shape shifter" from the series' alternate timeline and he needed to drink mercury to keep going. So he goes into a liquor store and gets some thermometers for the mercury. And, get this, he pours the mercury into a Slusho! cup to drink it. That's so twisted, man!

http://www.fringetelevision.com/2009/10/slusho-makes-another-appearance-in.html"

So will Acevedo get to do a Slusho! encore in "Dawn of the POTA"? As usual for POTA, time will tell. Maybe he'll be running from the apes and trip over an old Slusho! sign. Or maybe the apes will get on his case - "Hey human, we're going to show you who's boss!"- so he sez, "I really think we should sit down calmly, drink a Slusho! and talk things over". Slusho! and POTA, two great tastes that taste great together.

http://img.ly/vcRy

Fun fact: So linked now is Slusho! to the Abramsverse that when an action figure was made of his company Bad Robot's mascot, it came with a Slusho!:

http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_022511a.htm

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Group: potadg	Message: 61960	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/7/2013
Subject: POTA comic strip

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Emphasis on the comic. Just kidding, it's actually storyboards for "Dawn of the POTA".

http://sacklunchcomics.tumblr.com/

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Group: potadg	Message: 61961	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/8/2013
Subject: You can't keep a good ape down

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Al is back on twitter with a Corn(elius)ucopia of Ape tweets, especially about "Dawn".

http://twitter.com/dawn_of_apes

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Group: potadg	Message: 61962	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/11/2013
Subject: Darryl Gregory's BOOM! POTA continuity ends in September

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POTA as envisioned by novelist Darryl Gregory comes to an end this September with POTA Giant. This was the storyline with the airships, etc. that was controversial to POTA fans but comic book fans seemed to dig it's flights of fancy. It was the main POTA storyline for a long time starting in Ape-ril 2011 and then continued as specials. Gregory is pleased that he was allowed to finish the story.

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/gamereport/exclusive_planet_of_the_apes_wraps_TL1tyenqPloroRDCdZLDLJ

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Group: potadg	Message: 61963	From: mlccougar	Date: 6/12/2013
Subject: Re: Darryl Gregory's BOOM! POTA continuity ends in September

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.html.html You almost seem to be saying that's a bad thing :)

I am glad that mess will be put to rest though, it was nowhere near the mark, especially since they kept saying it was "set in the original continuity"... Had they just said it was their own take on the APES name, that would have been one thing, but to say it fit in with the films was just nuts on their part...

In a message dated 6/11/2013 8:08:14 AM Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

POTA as envisioned by novelist Darryl Gregory comes to an end this September with POTA Giant.

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Group: potadg	Message: 61964	From: Chris Hight	Date: 6/12/2013
Subject: Re: Darryl Gregory's BOOM! POTA continuity ends in September

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You make a good point.

From: "mlccougar@..." <mlccougar@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Darryl Gregory's BOOM! POTA continuity ends in September

You almost seem to be saying that's a bad thing :)

I am glad that mess will be put to rest though, it was nowhere near the mark, especially since they kept saying it was "set in the original continuity"... Had they just said it was their own take on the APES name, that would have been one thing, but to say it fit in with the films was just nuts on their part...

In a message dated 6/11/2013 8:08:14 AM Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

POTA as envisioned by novelist Darryl Gregory comes to an end this September with POTA Giant.

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Group: potadg	Message: 61965	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/14/2013
Subject: Battle premier, 6/15/2013, 12:00 am

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Title:		Battle premier

Date:		Saturday June 15, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Battle premiered this day in 1973

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Group: potadg	Message: 61966	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/14/2013
Subject: 40 years of "Battle"

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This month marks 40 years of "Battle For the POTA" (the "POTA Revisited" and "POTA as American Myth" books say June 13). So what? Generally the least regarded of the movies (except maybe Burton's), it nevertheless brought some groovy things to the POTA mythology. Er, um, no wait, I'll think of something!

Aldo. Ricky the squirrel. The Caesar statue's tear. That darn bus. "Someday you'll be as tall as a king". Where would we be without them?

And with the new movie looking more and more like a remake of "Battle" (a "Battle" royal, if you will), it's a good time for the black sheep of the family.

http://instagram.com/p/abqyUYF4d1/ #

Happy Birthday, "Battle"!

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Group: potadg	Message: 61967	From: Jeff Barkley	Date: 6/14/2013
Subject: Re: 40 years of "Battle"

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You forgot, "Ape shall never kill Abe" and my favorite, " Stop STOP Caesar forbids youuuuu!!"

On Jun 14, 2013 4:39 PM, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

This month marks 40 years of "Battle For the POTA" (the "POTA Revisited" and "POTA as American Myth" books say June 13). So what? Generally the least regarded of the movies (except maybe Burton's), it nevertheless brought some groovy things to the POTA mythology. Er, um, no wait, I'll think of something!

Aldo. Ricky the squirrel. The Caesar statue's tear. That darn bus. "Someday you'll be as tall as a king". Where would we be without them?

And with the new movie looking more and more like a remake of "Battle" (a "Battle" royal, if you will), it's a good time for the black sheep of the family.

http://instagram.com/p/abqyUYF4d1/#

Happy Birthday, "Battle"!

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Group: potadg	Message: 61968	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 6/15/2013
Subject: Re: dawn, dirty "Apes" set photos

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Also this...

http://www.lorinix.net/the_city/

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> I like the look of these actually. Reminds me of some of the city sets from the TV series, and also of this documentary I saw a few years ago (I think I mentioned it at the time) about an Earth suddenly devoid of humans...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XDbcMND7fY
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's what the environs look like in New Orleans where "Dawn of the POTA" is filming. Welcome to the jungle.
> >
> > http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80280
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61969	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/15/2013
Subject: "We want guns!"

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Sounds like "Dawn of the POTA" is def a war movie. : )

https://twitter.com/MissKOrtiz/status/344407507491504128

https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/345765373280391168/photo/1

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Group: potadg	Message: 61970	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/18/2013
Subject: License to Thrill

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The 2013 Licensing Expo is happening in Vegas and is sporting a "Dawn of the POTA" poster among other big upcoming movies. It looks like "Jurassic Park 4" has been pushed back to 2015 so JP and POTA won't get a box office rematch from 2001. Will licensors sign up with POTA or keep their distance?

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=81817

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Group: potadg	Message: 61971	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/20/2013
Subject: Lalo Schifrin's Birthday, 6/21/2013, 12:00 am

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Title:		Lalo Schifrin's Birthday

Date:		Friday June 21, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Lalo! (Composer: Planet of the Apes TV series)

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Group: potadg	Message: 61972	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/20/2013
Subject: "Dawn" pushed back to 7/18/14

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Fox is doing some rearranging. Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" and "X-Men: Days of Future Past" are swapping dates. "Dawn" will arrive July 18 2014, a week after the "Fast & Furious 7" behemoth. Of course it's still early days. Things could change again. It is what it is.

http://collider.com/independence-day-2-sequel-release-date-july-3-2015/

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Group: potadg	Message: 61973	From: Dario	Date: 6/22/2013
Subject: Apetown blueprint on eBay

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Here's a real rarety! A blueprint used for making the ape village in POTA. We can see how the grounds had to be graded as well as some of the housing. Since not all of the houses are shown I would assume that originally there existed a whole set of these blueprints. Check out some of the others involved in the legend box.

Price is steep though and these is definite aging along the fold borders (extra blue). But still very nice.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1967-Planet-of-the-Apes-APE-TOWN-Blueprint-/300910084562

Dario

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Group: potadg	Message: 61974	From: john.rutkoski	Date: 6/23/2013
Subject: apes can't talk

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i am into planet of the apes so much that i wish they would explain how caesar started talking. apes physically don't have the capability. so just write in the new movie the drug franco used in rise expanded the vocal chord to articulate. the drug gave them intelligence, that doesn't mean it changed them physically. all they need to do is make a reference that this drug also is changing their vocal chords. i thought when caesar talked in the end it ruined the film somewhat for me. the sign language caesar used was great and more real. to have him talk in the end without explaining it was to hollywood. i know they need the apes to talk for the movie. but can u please put something in the movie to justify it more.

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Group: potadg	Message: 61975	From: Tim	Date: 6/23/2013
Subject: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

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Went to see the very hilarious and wise Dave Chappelle last night. He was talking about movies and how they reflect on real life... Black life in particular. He said when he first saw POTA he thought , "Cornelius? That's a black name! I gotta cousin named Cornelius!" He said Cornelius was sporting a blownout perm..! He saw all the remakes and dissed the "Marky mark" version .....
Always a thrill when POTA shows up in everyday life....
Tim

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Group: potadg	Message: 61976	From: mlccougar	Date: 6/24/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

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.html.html You're right, it's cool when APES pops up in things like that...

In a message dated 6/23/2013 2:35:33 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

Went to see the very hilarious and wise Dave Chappelle last night. He was talking about movies and how they reflect on real life... Black life in particular. He said when he first saw POTA he thought , "Cornelius? That's a black name! I gotta cousin named Cornelius!" He said Cornelius was sporting a blownout perm..! He saw all the remakes and dissed the "Marky mark" version .....
Always a thrill when POTA shows up in everyday life....

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Group: potadg	Message: 61977	From: john.rutkoski	Date: 6/25/2013
Subject: your not getting it

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if i was fortunate to make an apes movie. i would not do it to make money. i would do it for the passion i have for this fantastic movie that still fascinates me today and will always. so i would like to make it as real as possible. humans can get a virus, and we may be able to test on apes and make them smarter, but science says the can't talk. so holly wood took over. maybe someday apes will talk with us messing with them. why couldn't they reference that in rise. that the drug expanded their vocal chords. and their was a diff. ending in rise. the police were killed by the apes in the forest. also if anyone rem. they also killed the governor in conquest. but the producers were afraid these things would not sell. again the difference they want to make money money money from it. i don't. planet of the apes is my passion

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Group: potadg	Message: 61978	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/25/2013
Subject: breaking up (sets) is hard to do

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"Dawn of the POTA" has wrapped shooting on those big city sets and they are being torn down. I don't think the film is totally wrapped yet but now NOLA traffic can get back to normal (at least until "Midday of the POTA"). This article sez POTA spent $ 80 million there (presumably with some nice financial incentives).

http://www.noladefender.com/content/c45bd-st1reets-reopen-dawn-planet-apes-breaks-down-set

Soon such graffiti will be only a memory.

http://instagram.com/p/a9FnelqRrS/ #

http://instagram.com/p/a-COLEIAH3/ #

JaymzBee of Toronto's JAZZ.FM91 met our own Gary "Dreyfus" Oldman during a New Orleans vacation:

http://jaymzbee.wordpress.com/2013/06/18/1743/

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Group: potadg	Message: 61979	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/28/2013
Subject: Conquest premier, 6/29/2013, 12:00 am

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Title:		Conquest premier

Date:		Saturday June 29, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Conquest premiered this day in 1972

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Group: potadg	Message: 61980	From: Jeff K.	Date: 6/29/2013
Subject: Suddenly, Cornelia

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Judy Greer tweets she's going to New Orleans Monday for her role as Cornelia. After getting cut out of "Rise", hopefully she'll finally have her big romantic scene with Caesar. He'll regret the day he taught her the word "No". I guess you might say they just joined the human race.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0339460/

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Group: potadg	Message: 61981	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 6/30/2013
Subject: Michael Wilson's Birthday, 7/1/2013, 12:00 am

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Title:		Michael Wilson's Birthday

Date:		Monday July 1, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Michael! (scriptwriter: Planet of the Apes (1968))

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Group: potadg	Message: 61982	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/1/2013
Subject: next stop: the ape village

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This actor is playing an ape in "Dawn" and sez they are about to start filming on the "epic" ape village set (probably why Cornelia is on the way). They are shooting near a real abandoned theme park (which might be good to use in a scene) in New Orleans.

https://www.facebook.com/RealNickThurston

Here's my take on the story so far (it's not a spoiler since it's just my guess). It sounds like "Battle" is the template with "good" and "bad" groups of both apes and humans. Of course Caesar serves the same role as the original Caesar, trying to keep the peace. You've got Koba as the bad ape like Aldo, who wants revenge or to take over the human territory. You've got the good humans. I think that would be represented by actors Jason Clarke, Keri Russell and Kodi Smit-McPhee (maybe a family?). Perhaps that shot that was released shows them as a human band going off on their own and befriending Caesar. They are like MacDonald & Co.

http://img.ly/images/7312429/full

Then there's the bad humans, represented by Gary Oldman, the Kolp of the story. It's said his character has a military and police background, so he leads the attack on the apes. Looks like the apes and humans battle it out in Old San Francisco. Maybe the Golden Gate Bridge separates them, with the apes in the redwoods and the humans in the old cities. Can't we all just get along?

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Group: potadg	Message: 61983	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

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Cornelius is a pretty common name in the very southern part of Ireland - in fact my wife, who's from there, assumed for some time after we met that my name was shortened version of Cornelius (it's often locally shortened as 'Neilus' apparently).

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Went to see the very hilarious and wise Dave Chappelle last night. He was talking about movies and how they reflect on real life... Black life in particular. He said when he first saw POTA he thought , "Cornelius? That's a black name! I gotta cousin named Cornelius!" He said Cornelius was sporting a blownout perm..! He saw all the remakes and dissed the "Marky mark" version .....
> Always a thrill when POTA shows up in everyday life....
> Tim
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61984	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

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I have to agree with you about the talking at the end of Rise, it lost a chunk of plausibility right there. Personally I'd feel that apes are more menacing when they can't communicate with humans. But, you know, this IS Hollywood we're talking about, and the industry will look for simplified plots like this in return for getting a big-budget movie made.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "john.rutkoski" <john.rutkoski@...> wrote:
>
> i am into planet of the apes so much that i wish they would explain how caesar started talking. apes physically don't have the capability. so just write in the new movie the drug franco used in rise expanded the vocal chord to articulate. the drug gave them intelligence, that doesn't mean it changed them physically. all they need to do is make a reference that this drug also is changing their vocal chords. i thought when caesar talked in the end it ruined the film somewhat for me. the sign language caesar used was great and more real. to have him talk in the end without explaining it was to hollywood. i know they need the apes to talk for the movie. but can u please put something in the movie to justify it more.
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61985	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

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Neilus Moxy!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 4:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Went to see the very hilarious and wise Dave Chappelle last night. He was talking about movies and how they reflect on real life... Black life in particular. He said when he first saw POTA he thought , "Cornelius? That's a black name! I gotta cousin named Cornelius!" He said Cornelius was sporting a blownout perm..! He saw all the remakes and dissed the "Marky mark" version .....
> Always a thrill when POTA shows up in everyday life....
> Tim
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61986	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

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This IS POTA we're talking about. If talking apes are ridiculous then what are we doing here?

The drug the apes are given would have to be a magic potion in a sense. There's a lot besides talking that would have to happen before there could be a POTA. We just have to accept the drug works so we can get to the good stuff. Maybe the drug activated a dormant gene that was holding them back? A lot of science fiction is no different from fantasy. The difference is they use science instead of pixie dust so it's slightly more plausible. A century ago the idea that we could build machines that could take us to the moon would have been unbelievable. The saving grace is that science has often been proved wrong and we learn new things that move us forward.

"Rise" brought POTA into the mad scientist genre, which has a long esteemed history and really kicked off science fiction ("Frankenstein", "Dr. Moreau"). It's art, not science.

From: Neil Moxham

Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 11:15 AM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk

>
> i am into

planet of the apes so much that i wish they would explain how caesar started talking. apes physically don't have the capability. so just write in the new movie the drug franco used in rise expanded the vocal chord to articulate. the drug gave them intelligence, that doesn't mean it changed them physically. all they need to do is make a reference that this drug also is changing their vocal chords. i thought when caesar talked in the end it ruined the film somewhat for me. the sign language caesar used was great and more real. to have him talk in the end without explaining it was to hollywood. i know they need the apes to talk for the movie. but can u please put something in the movie to justify it more.

>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61987	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

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Yes, you're right. But the premise of the original/Beneath/Escape suggested that apes would evolve over centuries - unlikely but plausible within the sci-fi genre. But Battle, and the end of Rise, and probably Dawn, will state outright that an individual ape can simply acquire speech and even become a scientific genius just by having the right training or taking a wonder drug. The plausible thing to do would be to skip forward a few generations between movies. That just means you can't have the continuity of a returning character though (unless they travel through some sort of bizarre time warp, but that's just ridiculous!).

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This IS POTA we're talking about. If talking apes are ridiculous then what are we doing here?
> The drug the apes are given would have to be a magic potion in a sense. There's a lot besides talking that would have to happen before there could be a POTA. We just have to accept the drug works so we can get to the good stuff. Maybe the drug activated a dormant gene that was holding them back? A lot of science fiction is no different from fantasy. The difference is they use science instead of pixie dust so it's slightly more plausible. A century ago the idea that we could build machines that could take us to the moon would have been unbelievable. The saving grace is that science has often been proved wrong and we learn new things that move us forward.
> "Rise" brought POTA into the mad scientist genre, which has a long esteemed history and really kicked off science fiction ("Frankenstein", "Dr. Moreau"). It's art, not science.
>
>
> From: Neil Moxham
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 11:15 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk
>
>
>
> I have to agree with you about the talking at the end of Rise, it lost a chunk of plausibility right there. Personally I'd feel that apes are more menacing when they can't communicate with humans. But, you know, this IS Hollywood we're talking about, and the industry will look for simplified plots like this in return for getting a big-budget movie made.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "john.rutkoski" <john.rutkoski@> wrote:
> >
> > i am into planet of the apes so much that i wish they would explain how caesar started talking. apes physically don't have the capability. so just write in the new movie the drug franco used in rise expanded the vocal chord to articulate. the drug gave them intelligence, that doesn't mean it changed them physically. all they need to do is make a reference that this drug also is changing their vocal chords. i thought when caesar talked in the end it ruined the film somewhat for me. the sign language caesar used was great and more real. to have him talk in the end without explaining it was to hollywood. i know they need the apes to talk for the movie. but can u please put something in the movie to justify it more.
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61988	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

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Sounds like some sort of knuckle-headed gorilla soldier.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally and Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Neilus Moxy!
>
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 4:09 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!
>
>
>
>
>
> Cornelius is a pretty common name in the very southern part of Ireland - in
> fact my wife, who's from there, assumed for some time after we met that my
> name was shortened version of Cornelius (it's often locally shortened as
> 'Neilus' apparently).
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , Tim
> <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > Went to see the very hilarious and wise Dave Chappelle last night. He was
> talking about movies and how they reflect on real life... Black life in
> particular. He said when he first saw POTA he thought , "Cornelius? That's a
> black name! I gotta cousin named Cornelius!" He said Cornelius was sporting
> a blownout perm..! He saw all the remakes and dissed the "Marky mark"
> version .....
> > Always a thrill when POTA shows up in everyday life....
> > Tim
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61989	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

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To be honest, it's probably a bigger stretch that apes would evolve on their own (they haven't in millions of years). It's more believable to me that a POTA would happen through scientific tampering. Probably time would help. Maybe "Rise" would be more believable if there was a prologue where the apes were given a drug and then we go forward two centuries where they are developing speech, etc. Or maybe a scientist with a specific goal of tampering with their brain and throat tissue to create a speaking monster.

But I think "Rise" did a good job. They wanted to tell the story of a specific ape and the goal is storytelling, not a scientific thesis. Rick Jaffa sez in his "Rise" commentary they got more into the science but it just bogged the script down. As long as it seemed believable, the audience was ready to accept it and move on. They had Caesar talking for dramatic reasons and now that they've done that, it shows the apes evolve rapidly, so no need to go much further in time for "Dawn" (I guess it's 15 years later). They want to get there quicker and have used creative license. No different than sound in space in many sci-fi movies. It's not so much dumbing things down as expediency in storytelling.

From: Neil Moxham

Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 2:45 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk

>
> This IS POTA we're talking about. If

talking apes are ridiculous then what are we doing here?

> The drug the

apes are given would have to be a magic potion in a sense. There's a lot besides talking that would have to happen before there could be a POTA. We just have to accept the drug works so we can get to the good stuff. Maybe the drug activated a dormant gene that was holding them back? A lot of science fiction is no different from fantasy. The difference is they use science instead of pixie dust so it's slightly more plausible. A century ago the idea that we could build machines that could take us to the moon would have been unbelievable. The saving grace is that science has often been proved wrong and we learn new things that move us forward.

> "Rise" brought POTA into the mad scientist genre,

which has a long esteemed history and really kicked off science fiction ("Frankenstein", "Dr. Moreau"). It's art, not science.

>
>
>

From: Neil Moxham

> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 11:15 AM
> To:

href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

>

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk

>
>
>
> I have

to agree with you about the talking at the end of Rise, it lost a chunk of plausibility right there. Personally I'd feel that apes are more menacing when they can't communicate with humans. But, you know, this IS Hollywood we're talking about, and the industry will look for simplified plots like this in return for getting a big-budget movie made.

>
>
> --- In

href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "john.rutkoski" <john.rutkoski@> wrote:

> >
> > i am

into planet of the apes so much that i wish they would explain how caesar started talking. apes physically don't have the capability. so just write in the new movie the drug franco used in rise expanded the vocal chord to articulate. the drug gave them intelligence, that doesn't mean it changed them physically. all they need to do is make a reference that this drug also is changing their vocal chords. i thought when caesar talked in the end it ruined the film somewhat for me. the sign language caesar used was great and more real. to have him talk in the end without explaining it was to hollywood. i know they need the apes to talk for the movie. but can u please put something in the movie to justify it more.

> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61990	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

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I agree Jeff but I prefer it when existing science is applied that makes it more believable.

That’s why the platform should have been years of genetic manipulation, not a cure for Alzheimer’s.

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 5:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk

This IS POTA we're talking about. If talking apes are ridiculous then what are we doing here?

"Rise" brought POTA into the mad scientist genre, which has a long esteemed history and really kicked off science fiction ("Frankenstein", "Dr. Moreau"). It's art, not science.

From: Neil Moxham

Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 11:15 AM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "john.rutkoski" <john.rutkoski@...> wrote:
>
> i am into planet of the apes so much that i wish they would explain how caesar started talking. apes physically don't have the capability. so just write in the new movie the drug franco used in rise expanded the vocal chord to articulate. the drug gave them intelligence, that doesn't mean it changed them physically. all they need to do is make a reference that this drug also is changing their vocal chords. i thought when caesar talked in the end it ruined the film somewhat for me. the sign language caesar used was great and more real. to have him talk in the end without explaining it was to hollywood. i know they need the apes to talk for the movie. but can u please put something in the movie to justify it more.
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61991	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

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Bigus Dickus’ best friend!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 7:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave Chappelle loves POTA!

Sounds like some sort of knuckle-headed gorilla soldier.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally and Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Neilus Moxy!
>
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61992	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/7/2013
Subject: Re: apes can't talk

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To be fair, Caesar was exposed to the drug while still developing in the womb. That might give him a head start over his contemporary apes. We'll have to see if that idea is supported in the sequel though, or if Rocket will suddenly be talking to Caesar about the consequences of eating cookies across multiple highways of time.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally and Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I agree Jeff but I prefer it when existing science is applied that makes it
> more believable.
>
>
>
> That's why the platform should have been years of genetic manipulation, not
> a cure for Alzheimer's.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Jeff K.
> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 5:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk
>
>
>
>
>
> This IS POTA we're talking about. If talking apes are ridiculous then what
> are we doing here?
>
> The drug the apes are given would have to be a magic potion in a sense.
> There's a lot besides talking that would have to happen before there could
> be a POTA. We just have to accept the drug works so we can get to the good
> stuff. Maybe the drug activated a dormant gene that was holding them back? A
> lot of science fiction is no different from fantasy. The difference is they
> use science instead of pixie dust so it's slightly more plausible. A century
> ago the idea that we could build machines that could take us to the moon
> would have been unbelievable. The saving grace is that science has often
> been proved wrong and we learn new things that move us forward.
>
> "Rise" brought POTA into the mad scientist genre, which has a long
> esteemed history and really kicked off science fiction ("Frankenstein", "Dr.
> Moreau"). It's art, not science.
>
>
>
> From: Neil Moxham <mailto:neilmoxham@...>
>
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 11:15 AM
>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: apes can't talk
>
>
>
>
>
> I have to agree with you about the talking at the end of Rise, it lost a
> chunk of plausibility right there. Personally I'd feel that apes are more
> menacing when they can't communicate with humans. But, you know, this IS
> Hollywood we're talking about, and the industry will look for simplified
> plots like this in return for getting a big-budget movie made.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "john.rutkoski" <john.rutkoski@> wrote:
> >
> > i am into planet of the apes so much that i wish they would explain how
> caesar started talking. apes physically don't have the capability. so just
> write in the new movie the drug franco used in rise expanded the vocal chord
> to articulate. the drug gave them intelligence, that doesn't mean it changed
> them physically. all they need to do is make a reference that this drug also
> is changing their vocal chords. i thought when caesar talked in the end it
> ruined the film somewhat for me. the sign language caesar used was great and
> more real. to have him talk in the end without explaining it was to
> hollywood. i know they need the apes to talk for the movie. but can u please
> put something in the movie to justify it more.
> >
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61993	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/9/2013
Subject: Two weeks to go

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Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" has two more weeks to shoot and then they can concentrate on making a monkey out of Andy Serkis and the gang. Sounds like they had a lot of night shooting. I reckon the penultimate ape/human fight will be at night. You OK with that? It's always darkest before the dawn.

'Twould be groovy if they could sellabrate the end of shooting with a trip to Comic Con on July 20th but we just don't live in that kind of a world, Thelma!

https://twitter.com/michaelabooming/status/354598090155630593

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Group: potadg	Message: 61994	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/9/2013
Subject: Evolution blu ray set

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Maybe this has been brought up but check out the artwork in the POTA Evolution blu-ray set:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwKXoFOQVLo

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Group: potadg	Message: 61995	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Evolution blu ray set

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Ewww…they are embracing the 2001 abomination!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:03 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Evolution blu ray set

Maybe this has been brought up but check out the artwork in the POTA Evolution blu-ray set:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwKXoFOQVLo

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Group: potadg	Message: 61996	From: Neil Moxham	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Evolution blu ray set

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And a set of cards featuring Apemania actors in costume... I just can't understand how a tribute troupe have become the official face of the classic movies. Someone at Fox needs a serious talking to.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Sally and Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Ewww.they are embracing the 2001 abomination!
>
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Jeff K.
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:03 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Evolution blu ray set
>
>
>
>
>
> Maybe this has been brought up but check out the artwork in the POTA
> Evolution blu-ray set:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwKXoFOQVLo
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61997	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Evolution blu ray set

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Attachments :

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I can guarantee they will not listen!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013 3:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Evolution blu ray set

And a set of cards featuring Apemania actors in costume... I just can't understand how a tribute troupe have become the official face of the classic movies. Someone at Fox needs a serious talking to.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Sally and Michael" <smwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Ewww.they are embracing the 2001 abomination!
>
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Jeff K.
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:03 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Evolution blu ray set
>
>
>
>
>
> Maybe this has been brought up but check out the artwork in the POTA
> Evolution blu-ray set:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwKXoFOQVLo
>

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Group: potadg	Message: 61998	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Exclusive Comic-Con POTA blu-ray

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Fox has announced that attendees of next week's San Diego Comic-Con can get their stinkin' paws on a POTA blu-ray with exclusive cover art. Before you look at the cover I hope you've had enough sleep or you might nod off. There's also exclusives for Fox's '50's classics "The Fly" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still".

Fox has time reserved for late Saturday July 20th to present something, but no details. Probably "Wolverine" and "X-Men" but maybe something for "Dawn of the POTA".

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/10/comic-con-foxs-exclusive-sci-fi-blu-rays-revealed

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Group: potadg	Message: 61999	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Let there be blacklight

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POTA blacklight posters at the July 13 Mad Monster POTA screening at the famous Chinese Theater.

http://instagram.com/p/bkGp95n7cg/ #

http://instagram.com/p/bkGbL2n7cH/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 62000	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/10/2013
Subject: Re: Let there be blacklight

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How cool! I assume you will be going Jeff? Please take your camera and let us know….

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013 12:22 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Let there be blacklight

POTA blacklight posters at the July 13 Mad Monster POTA screening at the famous Chinese Theater.

http://instagram.com/p/bkGp95n7cg/#

http://instagram.com/p/bkGbL2n7cH/#

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Group: potadg	Message: 62001	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/12/2013
Subject: "Dawn" coming to Comic-Con

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Represent! Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" will be at Comic-Con next weekend ( Sat. July 20th around 4ish). Andy Serkis, Jason Clarke, Keri Russell (you know her as Felicity) and director Matt Reeves are scheduled to ape-tend. Could there be a teaser trailer? Perchance. I'm sure they've been working on the apes all along so they might have something to show. I'd be interested in a scene between humans so we have an idea where it's going. If not, I'm sure will learn something new if they're bringing the gang down.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-fox-bringing-wolverine-584688

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Group: potadg	Message: 62002	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/12/2013
Subject: first look at the ape village

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Think wood! Remember, they live in a redwood forest.

Also, they're going to San Francisco at the end of the month for some establishing shots.

http://instagram.com/p/brK_l8i__U/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 62003	From: Dario Sciola	Date: 7/14/2013
Subject: Simian Scrolls PDF files

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Hunter Goatley put up PDF files for ALL of the Simian Scroll mags on his site after Mark Talbot-Butler finished scanning issues 7 through 16.

But there is a problem with the links for 7 through 12. (Hunter! Dashes were used instead of underscore in the filenames.)

You can get them here:
https://pota.goatley.com/scrolls.html"

For those who know how to 'save link as', you can get the rest here until the links are fixed:
https://pota.goatley.com/scrolls/

Thanks to everyone who contributed.

Dario

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Group: potadg	Message: 62004	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/15/2013
Subject: Leon Shamroy's Birthday, 7/16/2013, 12:00 am

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group

Title:		Leon Shamroy's Birthday

Date:		Tuesday July 16, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
Notes:		Happy Birthday Leon! (Cinematographer: Planet of the Apes (1968))

Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

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Group: potadg	Message: 62005	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/17/2013
Subject: Matt Reeves talks "Dawn of the POTA"

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From: Jeff K.

Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:43 PM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Matt Reeves talks "Dawn of the POTA"

"Dawn of the POTA" is going to get a lot more familiar this Saturday at Comic-Con when director Matt Reeves and his cast do a panel. And to kick things off, here's an interview he did that just has me grooving. But first of all, he doesn't plan to show much footage. Just "limited little bits" and no ape stuff. The reason "Dawn" got pushed back to July is indeed because of the FX. It sounds like we are in for an epic show.

The basic thing is, those who loved "Rise" are in good hands, it seems. Reeves is a big POTA fan since childhood, but he LOVED "Rise" and to continue from that is what he's about. "I wanted to extend what I thought was achieved so brilliantly, the emotional connection with Caesar...It's definitely a bigger ape world, but it is still centered on Andy Serkis as Caesar, it's his POV... I wanted to make sure that the emotional life of Caesar was the way the story carried forward. You have to make Caesar's movie, you have to think about what matters to him the most".

It turns out that Reeves wants more of what was in "Rise", showing a slower evolution of the apes that the studio and Rupert Wyatt had planned. So it will be more in keeping with what we saw in the last film, the apes still developing. Reeves didn't think he'd have the leeway he did but the studio liked his ideas and let him go in a different direction. Almost as if they said to a fan, "Come on up and try it!". Reeves sez: "The apes story is a through-the-looking-glass way of looking at what we are. By what's going on in the internal lives of the apes we are exploring ourselves, our impulses, our society. So much is roiling inside Caesar. He has a rational side separate from the apes, they're all instinct. We are seeing how Caesar becomes this leader."

And hold onto your hats. He sez "this leads to the original film... That is where it's going".

It sounds like a very ambitious film with all it's sets and location shooting. It's going to push mo-cap into realism like never before (Reeves has a rep for delivering believability; that's why he was chosen for "Cloverfield", which is supposed to be really taking place on the other end of a camera). The CG in "Rise" didn't work as well when the apes were animated instead of mo-capped, and he's working to limit animation. And he picked D.P. Michael Seresin "because I wanted the lighting look to be very real. I want it to feel as if we're making an epic film, very grounded, we're lighting with real (location) light, so the effects that are so amazing in "Rise" and "Avatar" we're putting in this environment... this is the first movie at this level to do native 3D on an enormous canvas and mo-cap that is 95% shot on location".

He also gave away a couple of things. As I figured, actors Jason Clarke, Keri Russell and Kodi Smit-McPhee play a family. Caesar is also in a family way, having had a son (played by adult actor Nick Thurston, so he's grown) with Cornelia (Reeves recently had a son). And actor Toby Kebbell takes the role of Koba this time.

Anyway, I recommend reading this two page interview. I am totally on board. If the final film matches Reeves' ambitions, we're in for a treat!

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/comic-con-preview-matt-reeves-talks-apes

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Group: potadg	Message: 62006	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/17/2013
Subject: some pics

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Here's some cool pics courtesy of Al's twitter page:

Booth Colman, Ron Harper, Austin Stoker, Don Murray and Lou Wagner Sunday at the POTA Q & A:

http://instagram.com/p/b00xOTpcUO/ #

The abandoned amusement park near the "Dawn of the POTA" ape village set; pic by "Dawn" actor Kodi-Smit McPhee (almost makes me wish "Dawn" was in black and white):

http://instagram.com/p/b0BEgbn5gU/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 62007	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/18/2013
Subject: Matt Reeves talks "Dawn of the POTA"

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And hold onto your hats. He sez "this leads to the original film... That is where it's going".

Anyway, I recommend reading this two page interview. I am totally on board. If the final film matches Reeves' ambitions, we're in for a treat!

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/comic-con-preview-matt-reeves-talks-apes

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Group: potadg	Message: 62008	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/18/2013
Subject: "Dawn" prequel comic

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Fox has released a prequel comic to their sequel "Dawn of the POTA" (currently opening a year from today).

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=106642

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Group: potadg	Message: 62009	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: Simian flu alert

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Those wiseacres at Fox (presumably) are looking to use the internet again for clever promos, like they did with "Rise". Unless this is for real! : o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-qU2ILpfR8

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Group: potadg	Message: 62010	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: "Dawn" prequel cover art

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Caesar's window is back! Art by Gary Brown. If there's cover art I guess that means this isn't internet only.

https://twitter.com/GarryBoom/status/358319800788869120/photo/1

It feels like this movie is around the corner, not a year away. Stop torturing me, Fox.

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Group: potadg	Message: 62011	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" prequel cover art

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Attachments :

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Is BOOM! doing this?

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 6:59 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "Dawn" prequel cover art

Caesar's window is back! Art by Gary Brown. If there's cover art I guess that means this isn't internet only.

https://twitter.com/GarryBoom/status/358319800788869120/photo/1

It feels like this movie is around the corner, not a year away. Stop torturing me, Fox.

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Group: potadg	Message: 62012	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: a hot time in the old town last night

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"Dawn" director Matt Reeves tweeted some shots from the ape village set before he heads to Comic-Con. Looks like someone was smoking in bed. Not a good idea when everything is made of sticks. Stupid monkeys!

https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/358421034371805184/photo/1

Here's one with him and D.P. Michael Seresin.

https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/358422207564763137/photo/1

Sure feels like there's a lot of night shooting on this flick. Seems like a director who enjoys his work. Good luck at Comic-Con, Matt.

https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/358445900567306240/photo/1

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Group: potadg	Message: 62013	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/20/2013
Subject: Re: "Dawn" prequel cover art

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His twitter name seems to suggest it.

From: Sally and Michael

Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:12 AM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Dawn" prequel cover art

Is BOOM! doing this?

Caesar's window is back! Art by Gary Brown. If there's cover art I guess that means this isn't internet only.

https://twitter.com/GarryBoom/status/358319800788869120/photo/1

It feels like this movie is around the corner, not a year away. Stop torturing me, Fox.

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Group: potadg	Message: 62014	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2013
Subject: "Dawn" panel video

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Here's the "Dawn of the POTA" panel at Comic-Con. Thanx to Al for the head's up.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-comic-con.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&u

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Group: potadg	Message: 62015	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2013
Subject: "Dawn" at Comic-Con

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"Dawn of the POTA" seemed to get lost in the shuffle Saturday between the superhero news (Batman will be in the next Superman movie) and cast reveals (a who's who of "X-Men" actors; the cast of "Guardians of the Galaxy"). But hey, it IS Comic-Con and superheroes should be front and center. "Dawn" managed to show a reel and give us a taste of where it's heading, still shooting with a year to go.

First of all, about spoilers. Everyone has their own ideas about what those are. I consider a spoiler to be story-related ("A kills B"), not setup or background given out by the filmmakers themselves (like whether or not Caesar has kids when the story starts). If you want to be pure as the driven snow when the movie comes out and are sure you won't inadvertently be exposed to a trailer or TV spot beforehand, I suggest avoiding anything that has the title "Dawn of the POTA" on it. For the rest of us who can take being violated a little, let's continue.

The two big takeaways I got from this is "location! location! location!" and "emotion! emotion! emotion!". First of all, I dig that they are actually shooting this in 3D ("native 3D", as they call it). This is rare for live-action movies. The bad rap 3D has been getting is partly because films are converted after they've been shot (and partly because many theaters aren't willing to pay to show 3D properly). It's a pain in the ass to actually film in 3D and most productions won't be bothered. And the same can be said for motion capture, pain in the ass. It's been pointed out repeatedly at this Comic-Con that not only is "Dawn" going to the trouble, but they are doing so 90 - 95% on actual locations (instead of filming in front of green screens). For motion capture in particular this is groundbreaking. So I'm interested to see how it comes together and how close to believable this is ("Rise" was good but they were still working things out and sometimes it showed).

As for the new director Matt Reeves, my take on him is he's a talented guy who LOVES POTA. He's said as a kid he wanted to BE an ape and feels that "Rise" finally gave him the opportunity to see things from the ape POV. He wants to continue that with "Dawn". Reeves is a director who runs on emotion. In the recent issue of "Empire" dedicated to his childhood buddy J. J. Abrams, Abrams talked about the show they did together ("Felicity", starring Keri "Dawn" Russell) and said: "I always wanted to make things funnier, Matt always wanted to make things more emotional". And that's the feeling I got with Reeves' comments about "Dawn". When Reeves was asked who we're supposed to root for in the movie, he said, "Everyone". Both the apes and the humans have families that are front and center, and the emphasis will be on the future generations and whether they can get along. While most summer blockbusters are looking for the next smackdown, it sounds like "Dawn" will follow the lead of "Rise" (and the original movies) in being more complex. Will that hurt it at the box office?

Reeves has also brought up that this will "lead" to the 1968 film. Does that mean literally or figuratively? Reeves is the first POTA director who is a dyed in the wool "Apes" fan since he was a kid, and the temptation to literally connect to the revered original is there. The closest he came to elaborating on that was telling MTV that it's "a trajectory of some parallel universe to the 1968 film". What? Well, it is possible that the "Rise/Dawn" timeline could lead to Zauis' Ape City. If we use the parallel universes that are now the bread and butter of physics. The ship sent to Mars in "Rise" can't be Taylor's but if Taylor's ship arrived from a parallel universe it could work. Reeves' bud J. J. made the new "Star Trek"s both a reboot and an offshoot of the originals (with a little help from Leonard Nimoy). Time will tell if that's where Reeves is heading.

Anyway, I'm all in for this sequel until further notice. It looks like Fox is behind it this time (instead of slipping it through the back door like "Rise") and the director is a solid filmmaker who is a big POTA fan as well. Things look good.

http://collider.com/comic-con-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-panel-recap/

Here's the best recap I've read of the footage that was shown. Hopefully Fox will make it available to us stay at homers:

http://www.slashfilm.com/reaction-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-teased-at-comic-con/

MTV did a live pre-interview with the gang. Not a lot is talked about, they mostly just monkey around, but it's fun. Thanks to Al for making it available:

http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com.htmlmedia.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 62016	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2013
Subject: Let's get Neca-ed!

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Neca Toys announced on twitter today that they have the "Apes" license for both the classic and new versions and are "planning to do a lot with it". They did quite a bit with POTA2001 (cookie jars, statues, etc.) but it'll be cool to see what they come up with a decade later. They do a good job in the reasonable price range.

http://collider.com/neca-batman-robocop-iron-man-images/

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Group: potadg	Message: 62017	From: Chris Hight	Date: 7/22/2013
Subject: Re: Let's get Neca-ed!

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NECA does incredible work. I have their Predator figures and they are exactly like the movie.

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Subject: [PotaDG] Let's get Neca-ed!

http://collider.com/neca-batman-robocop-iron-man-images/

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Group: potadg	Message: 62018	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/23/2013
Subject: Linda Harrison's Birthday, 7/24/2013, 12:00 am

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Group: potadg	Message: 62019	From: munkeyman63au	Date: 7/24/2013
Subject: Re: Matt Reeves talks "Dawn of the POTA"

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Double groan...

Neil T

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

> It turns out that Reeves wants more of what was in "Rise", showing a slower evolution of the apes that the studio and Rupert Wyatt had planned. So it will be more in keeping with what we saw in the last film, the apes still developing.

> And hold onto your hats. He sez "this leads to the original film... That is where it's going".

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Group: potadg	Message: 62020	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2013
Subject: "Dawn" press conference (possible spoilers)

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The "Dawn" team meet the press before heading to the Comic-Con stage. Thanx again to Al for the heads up.

Pt. 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qq_lQGQ3Gw

Pt. 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKqC8cgWiyw

Pt. 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIaMkDuRKtA

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Group: potadg	Message: 62021	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2013
Subject: That's a wrap!

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"Dawn of the POTA" finished principal photography today, July 24. Though there's still odds and ends to do (some stuff in real San Francisco at the end of the month) and probably reshoots ("Rise" reshot it's ending a month before it's release), it's now post-production time. Congrats!

https://twitter.com/Greg_Kiley/status/360170524837572608/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Greg_Kiley/status/360172091074551810/photo/1

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Group: potadg	Message: 62022	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/25/2013
Subject: William Creber's Birthday, 7/26/2013, 12:00 am

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Group: potadg	Message: 62023	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/25/2013
Subject: "Dawn" shirt at Comic-Con

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Not only were attendees of Comic-Con able to get the "Dawn of the POTA" prequel comic book, but it looks like a groovy shirt was available as well, featuring Caesar's window. Well, what'd you expect, an ape's new suit?

https://twitter.com/dawn_of_apes/status/360536747135864833/photo/1

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Group: potadg	Message: 62024	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: "Dawn" director talks James Franco (possible spoilers)

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Entertainment Tonight asked Matt Reeves if James Franco will have a cameo in "Dawn". He sez: "No. That story finished up beautifully in the first film, and let's put it this way - he's a big part of where this comes from and who Caesar is, so in that sense his presence is majorly in the film".

http://www.etonline.com/movies/136526_Dawn_of_the_Planet_of_the_Apes_Cast_at_Comic_Con/index.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 62025	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Fox theme park?!

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On the heels of the announcement that some Fox movies might be headed for Broadway, it looks like they are building a Fox theme park in Malaysia (due in 2016). Could this actually result in the first ever POTA theme park ride?

http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/fox-to-build-theme-park-in-malaysia/

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Group: potadg	Message: 62026	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Planet of the Apes 2001premier, 7/27/2013, 12:00 am

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Group: potadg	Message: 62027	From: Sally and Michael	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes 2001premier, 7/27/2013, 12:00 am

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Group: potadg	Message: 62028	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: Planet of the Apes 2001premier, 7/27/2013, 12:00 am

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Date:		Saturday July 27, 2013
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Notes:		Planet of the Apes (reimagined) premiered on this day in 2001

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Group: potadg	Message: 62029	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: "Dawn": Oh, the humanity!

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Here's a pic of two of the loyal opposition in "Dawn of the POTA". This is just my assumption, not a spoiler. But these guys are out to teach Caesar the ABC's of brutality. And he will learn again what it is to have a master. They are NOT his friends!

Kirk Acevedo ("Band of Bros.", "Oz", "Fringe") and Jon Eyez ("Treme") in "Dawn":

https://twitter.com/kirkacevedo/status/360443497016336384/photo/1

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Group: potadg	Message: 62030	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/26/2013
Subject: "Dawn": the San Francisco treat

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"Dawn of the POTA" now turns it's lenses on the real San Francisco. They call it verisimilitude.

https://twitter.com/shanmreed/status/360922322170961920/photo/1

http://instagram.com/p/cP_popIzh8/ #

http://instagram.com/p/cPpK1SvQKZ/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 62031	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/27/2013
Subject: "Dawn" gallery

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Al presents a gallery (or is it galaxy?) of pics for "Dawn of the POTA". Been there, "Dawn" that.

Ready, SET, go!

http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/dawn_set/album/index.html"

Comic-Con:

http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/comic_con/album/index.html"

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Group: potadg	Message: 62032	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/27/2013
Subject: "Dawn", dirty interview gallery

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Al has updated his media page to include an apeload of interviews from Comic-Con. This will help get us through the cold winter months when there's no news about "Dawn" as they quietly CG away on the apes. It's always darkest before the "Dawn".

http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com.htmlmedia.html"

Good work, Al!

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Group: potadg	Message: 62033	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/27/2013
Subject: the streets of San Francisco

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Photographers are going ape in San Fran, getting good shots of "Dawn of the POTA"'s shoot there today.

https://twitter.com/lizzzieryan/status/361178571244449793/photo/1

http://instagram.com/p/cR63AkrWJo/ #

http://instagram.com/p/cSUusPrWKa/ #

http://instagram.com/p/cSOKrAh5K_/ #

https://twitter.com/MattySF/status/361245697951027200/photo/1

https://twitter.com/MattySF/status/361243255888809985/photo/1

http://instagram.com/p/cRtctXuilI/ #

Terry "Rocket" Notary: http://instagram.com/p/cSUncErLXi/#

https://twitter.com/DiamondLil_51/status/361252468656570368/photo/1

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Group: potadg	Message: 62034	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/28/2013
Subject: getting the runaround

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Here's video of the San Fran shoot. Them apes are in shape!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=84351

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Group: potadg	Message: 62035	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/28/2013
Subject: David Warner's Birthday, 7/29/2013, 12:00 am

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Notes:		Happy Birthday David! (Sandar: POTA 2001)

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Group: potadg	Message: 62036	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/28/2013
Subject: "Dawn", dooby doo, "Dawn", "Dawn"

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Here's some footage of "Dawn of the POTA" filming at San Fran City Hall today. Not really a spoiler but maybe for some.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga6GPsD2g54

http://instagram.com/p/cUYcT9LWAe/ #

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Group: potadg	Message: 62037	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/29/2013
Subject: "Dawn" Comic-Con trailer review

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Schmoes Know do a fun movie podcast, I dig it. They were over the moon for "Rise". Here's their take on what was shown at Comic-Con. Perhaps spoilers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N8KGh_pywU

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Group: potadg	Message: 62038	From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/30/2013
Subject: Don Murray's Birthday, 7/31/2013, 12:00 am

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Notes:		Happy Birthday Don! (Governor Breck: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972))

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