>
> I think we really need to interview Frank Capra Jr.
> to find out what
> happened and why.

> "shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:
>
> >>The animated series is under-rated in my totally
> biased opinion.How
> many other cartoons of
> that era are still talked about today and had
> novelisations(and good
> ones!)done of them? I like the animated series a
> lot--it's certainly
> far less jarring than Burton's Apes and the
> characters are amazingly
> well rounded.And somehow a Flintstone Urko really
> works! <<
>
>
> Watching these again as an adult, I was amazed that
> they actually had
> multi-episode story arcs, subplots, recurring minor
> characters- it's like
> a David Milch series!! Remember how the first
> episode ended with Jeff
> locked up in the wagon? I can't imagine any current
> animated show doing
> something like that.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> Personally, IMHO, POTA was a superb, well written, directed and
acted
> classic -- yet, it was based on the novel...BTPOTA was an
original...
>
> G
>
>
> What the -- ?!!!! BENEATH is "based on Characters created by
Pierre Boulle" and a sequel to the first film. OK, so maybe the
mutants and the bomb thing were original -- BUT WHAT'S THAT GOT TO DO
WITH APES?!!!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
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> for Original pota One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos,
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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Jacob's BENEATH NATO film

What does it mean by NATO anyway?

Was this the trailer for Army Bases in

North Atlantic Treat Organization countries?

 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA cartoon


> I wasa going thru old TV guides that I've had stashed
> away for years and Return seemed to play every
> Saturday from Sept 75 to Sept.76.....I can't remember
> being bored with the same few episodes run over and
> over again...>>!
>
> Tim
>
> --- Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> > "shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:
> >
> > >>The animated series is under-rated in my totally
> > biased opinion.How
> > many other cartoons of
> > that era are still talked about today and had
> > novelisations(and good
> > ones!)done of them? I like the animated series a
> > lot--it's certainly
> > far less jarring than Burton's Apes and the
> > characters are amazingly
> > well rounded.And somehow a Flintstone Urko really
> > works! <<
> >
> >
> > Watching these again as an adult, I was amazed that
> > they actually had
> > multi-episode story arcs, subplots, recurring minor
> > characters- it's like
> > a David Milch series!! Remember how the first
> > episode ended with Jeff
> > locked up in the wagon? I can't imagine any current
> > animated show doing
> > something like that.
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:13 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: favorite Apes film


> Personally, IMHO, POTA was a superb, well written, directed and acted
> classic -- yet, it was based on the novel...BTPOTA was an original...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> >
> > I guess it's true. People really do like "Beneath". Maybe the
> next "Apes"
> > film should be a remake of that. - - - Jeff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "drhasslein" <drhasslein@y...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:45 PM
> > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: favorite Apes film
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Favorite to watch
> > > 1. Beneath
> > > 2. Conquest
> > > 3. Planet
> > > 4. Battle
> > > 5. Escape
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original
> pota One
> > Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much
> > more...
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
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more...
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> From: Haristas@...
> Subject: Re: WB Preparing I AM LEGEND (OT)
>
> I recommend everyone try reading the original

> own illustrations.

  As a kid I was so upset they cancelled the TV show that I washed my hands
of the cartoon. I didn't see any point in doing it as a cartoon without the
makeups. I enjoy it more now because I understand the restrictions of TV
animation back then (and the over the top voices are hilarious). - - - Jeff

  Part of the allure of pota is the ape makeup, I prefer the movies and tv show to the cartoon.

  But today it would be interesting to see how the cartoon would be done because of the advancement in animation. Elaine

This week's Lesson from the Lawgiver is now available, my apologies for it being a day late. Thanks to Elaine for her story.

You can view the Lesson by clicking the banner on the Yahoo home page or via this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm

I regard to the radio spots project that several members are getting together, please let me know if I can be of help. I can burn CDs, convert files, print CD labels, etc.

>
> I'd put ESCAPE ahead of CONQUEST.
>
> -- Rory
>

> ++That is exactly why Beneath is so low on my POTA list: the

> Kass
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> I made a second cover for the eventual "Radio Spots" (and other stuff) CD. I
> like this one better even though I spent less time making it. What do you
> think?
>
> -- Rory
>
> Head dudes, please put in file sections!
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTACDCoverII.jpg
>

<I hate the mutants.

- Rory>

 

++That is exactly why Beneath is so low on my POTA list: the mutants. Yuch. Apes are so much better.

Kass

  I don't like the mutants either, I was cheering the apes on to wipe them out. Elaine

---

>>Who would have thunk it? BATTLE making nearly eight and a half

>>If you look under Sci-If remakes POTA2K1 is #2.

>>Look, let's realize something here. "Alot" of dialogue in films is

>>Love the Homepage. I'm wondering if it's a translation of the dog tags

>> The "Ultimate Collection" would make a nice group of "safety copies"

>>They made much more than that. Accounting back then was iffy at best.

>>You're missing out...

>>PLANET -- 09/14/1973 -- CBS Network

>>There aren't any dropouts, just an extreme amount of background noise

>>I love the X-men, but can take or leave their movies--a little bit

>>1. PLANET

>>I have to agree with your order...BTPOTA, POTA, BFTPOTA, COTPOTA and

>>Favorite to watch

>>Chris, as movies

>>It's from the Battle Herald. One of the lobby cards for Battle is

>>A podcast can be viewed with iTunes and can contain pictures to really

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@j...> wrote:
>
> "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
> >>It's from the Battle Herald. One of the lobby cards for Battle
is
> from the bomb scene:
> http://www.mediamercenary.com/POTAimages/LobbyCards/Battle1.jpg <<
>
>
> I only have the BENEATH Herald. I wasn't aware that any of them
gave
> actual news i.e. info about the actors, etc. Was this approach
exclusive
> to the BATTLE Herald, or did some of the others do the same thing?
As I
> recall, the BENEATH Herald only had fake news related to the film
itself.
>
>
>
> Chris L.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@j...> wrote:
>
> Haristas@a... wrote:
>
>
> >>PLANET -- 09/14/1973 -- CBS Network
>
> BENEATH -- 10/26/1973 -- CBS
>
> ESCAPE -- 11/16/1973 -- CBS
>
> CONQUEST -- 11/14/1974 -- CBS
>
> BATTLE -- 01/17/1975 -- CBS <<
>
>
>
> Cool. Where did you find these Rory?
>
> I remember my parents watching PLANET and BENEATH on a Friday
night, but
> I was coming in and out of the living room and only caught parts
of both
> films. The mutants taking their masks off kind of hooked me, so I
made a
> point of catching any of the movies whenever they were shown on
TV. I
> remember when BENEATH was rebroadcast (also on a Friday night), we
had a
> lot of family members over for some event and I was telling
everyone that
> they had to be quiet so I could watch my movie in the living room.
> Surprisingly, they all left me alone.
>
> BATTLE I also saw on CBS, though I'm not sure which broadcast it
was (it
> was part of a double feature- The Prince of Central Park was the
other).
> According to the entry at IMDB
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076566/),
> the film premiered on June 17th 1977, so I guess I answered my own
> question.
>
> Don't recall the first time I saw ESCAPE or CONQUEST on TV, but I
did see
> the first few minutes of ESCAPE at a drive in. I was four at the
time,
> and fell asleep in the back of my parents station wagon shortly
after the
> opening credits when the apes removed their helmets (I stayed
awake for
> the Pink Panther cartoon though). Didn't have quite the late night
> stamina I do now.
>
>
> Chris L
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@j...> wrote:

> That could be kind of fun. Time consuming to produce, but fun. Actually,
> there's a really cool fan project here when you think about it.
>
>
> Chris L.
>

>   ++That is exactly why Beneath is so low on my POTA list: the
mutants. Yuch. Apes are so much better.
>   Kass
>

++And to a lesser degree, another reason is Brent. He's a bit of a
washed-out copy of Heston.
Yes, I know some of you think he's the best, but he just never was able
to carry the film, IMO. It took Roddy and Kim and Chuck, actors with
that power and sheer charisma and presence.
Kass

---

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> This week's Lesson from the Lawgiver is now available, my apologies
for it being a day late. Thanks to Elaine for her story.
>
> You can view the Lesson by clicking the banner on the Yahoo home
page or via this link:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm
>
> I regard to the radio spots project that several members are
getting together, please let me know if I can be of help. I can burn
CDs, convert files, print CD labels, etc.
>

>
>
> The animated Silver Surfer series that Fox ran a few years back was
> exceptionally well written, and similar to RETURN in the fact that

> an ongoing backstory. Part of the problem with that show was that

> kept bouncing it around the schedule and that adversely affected the
> ratings. Of course, they did that with Family Guy and Futurama too.

> back, and there's talk of Futurama returning as well. I doubt this

> happen with SS though. I had found a website about the show years

> and one of the show creators actually posted the script for the

> episode of the planned second season (which resolved the first

> cliffhanger).
>
> John, I thought the SS comic series that was launched in 1987/88

> several years. Any comic book people here who can clarify?
>
>
> Chris L.
>

> Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> >>PLANET -- 09/14/1973 -- CBS Network
>
> BENEATH -- 10/26/1973 -- CBS
>
> ESCAPE -- 11/16/1973 -- CBS
>
> CONQUEST -- 11/14/1974 -- CBS
>
> BATTLE -- 01/17/1975 -- CBS <<
>
>
>
> Cool. Where did you find these Rory?
>
> I remember my parents watching PLANET and BENEATH on
> a Friday night, but
> I was coming in and out of the living room and only
> caught parts of both
> films. The mutants taking their masks off kind of
> hooked me, so I made a
> point of catching any of the movies whenever they
> were shown on TV. I
> remember when BENEATH was rebroadcast (also on a
> Friday night), we had a
> lot of family members over for some event and I was
> telling everyone that
> they had to be quiet so I could watch my movie in
> the living room.
> Surprisingly, they all left me alone.
>
> BATTLE I also saw on CBS, though I'm not sure which
> broadcast it was (it
> was part of a double feature- The Prince of Central
> Park was the other).
> According to the entry at IMDB
> (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076566/),
> the film premiered on June 17th 1977, so I guess I
> answered my own
> question.
>
> Don't recall the first time I saw ESCAPE or CONQUEST
> on TV, but I did see
> the first few minutes of ESCAPE at a drive in. I was
> four at the time,
> and fell asleep in the back of my parents station
> wagon shortly after the
> opening credits when the apes removed their helmets
> (I stayed awake for
> the Pink Panther cartoon though). Didn't have quite
> the late night
> stamina I do now.
>
>
> Chris L
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 1/27/2006 4:26:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

Four or five episodes in though, you're hooked.

Not 12oz Mouse.  I can't even watch three!

That show sucks, and I'm starting to think

that's the joke.  Squidbillies shouldn't be

funny, but it is.  Perfect Hair Forever is

only funny because it spoofs most of

the anime genre conventions, like a

quest, a letcherous master, defeats

in battle that are only temporary, etc . . .

I can only tolerated To Goes To The Mayor

occasionally.  It's no ATHF or Sealab,

and even Sealab went down hill after the death

of voice actor Harry Goz.  The only really good

new CN-AS show has been The Venture Brothers.

And that takes forever to produce.  You could lose

all your perfect hair forever waiting on a second season.

 

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> Going thru these old TV Guides I have I have found
> that :
> Planet re-aired on August 27, 1976
> Beneath was shown again on March 16, 1976
> Conquest on September 9, 1976
> and Battle on June 17, 1976
> Hadn't found a second showing of Escape...
> These were all on network TV (I believe on CBS)
> after that I have found all the films on various
> dates
> but as syndicated to local stations.
>
> tim
>
>
> --- Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> > Haristas@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > >>PLANET -- 09/14/1973 -- CBS Network
> >
> > BENEATH -- 10/26/1973 -- CBS
> >
> > ESCAPE -- 11/16/1973 -- CBS
> >
> > CONQUEST -- 11/14/1974 -- CBS
> >
> > BATTLE -- 01/17/1975 -- CBS <<
> >
> >
> >
> > Cool. Where did you find these Rory?
> >
> > I remember my parents watching PLANET and BENEATH
> on
> > a Friday night, but
> > I was coming in and out of the living room and
> only
> > caught parts of both
> > films. The mutants taking their masks off kind of
> > hooked me, so I made a
> > point of catching any of the movies whenever they
> > were shown on TV. I
> > remember when BENEATH was rebroadcast (also on a
> > Friday night), we had a
> > lot of family members over for some event and I
> was
> > telling everyone that
> > they had to be quiet so I could watch my movie in
> > the living room.
> > Surprisingly, they all left me alone.
> >
> > BATTLE I also saw on CBS, though I'm not sure
> which
> > broadcast it was (it
> > was part of a double feature- The Prince of
> Central
> > Park was the other).
> > According to the entry at IMDB
> > (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076566/),
> > the film premiered on June 17th 1977, so I guess I
> > answered my own
> > question.
> >
> > Don't recall the first time I saw ESCAPE or
> CONQUEST
> > on TV, but I did see
> > the first few minutes of ESCAPE at a drive in. I
> was
> > four at the time,
> > and fell asleep in the back of my parents station
> > wagon shortly after the
> > opening credits when the apes removed their
> helmets
> > (I stayed awake for
> > the Pink Panther cartoon though). Didn't have
> quite
> > the late night
> > stamina I do now.
> >
> >
> > Chris L
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

If you really want a blast from the past go to the TV Ads page in
the Art & Info section of the group website:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/TVAds.htm
There are scans of all the original TV Guide ads and reviews.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@j...> wrote:
>
> Haristas@a... wrote:
>
>
> >>PLANET -- 09/14/1973 -- CBS Network
>
> BENEATH -- 10/26/1973 -- CBS
>
> ESCAPE -- 11/16/1973 -- CBS
>
> CONQUEST -- 11/14/1974 -- CBS
>
> BATTLE -- 01/17/1975 -- CBS <<
>
>
>
> Cool. Where did you find these Rory?
>
> I remember my parents watching PLANET and BENEATH on a Friday
night, but
> I was coming in and out of the living room and only caught parts
of both
> films. The mutants taking their masks off kind of hooked me, so I
made a
> point of catching any of the movies whenever they were shown on
TV. I
> remember when BENEATH was rebroadcast (also on a Friday night), we
had a
> lot of family members over for some event and I was telling
everyone that
> they had to be quiet so I could watch my movie in the living room.
> Surprisingly, they all left me alone.
>
> BATTLE I also saw on CBS, though I'm not sure which broadcast it
was (it
> was part of a double feature- The Prince of Central Park was the
other).
> According to the entry at IMDB
( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076566/),
> the film premiered on June 17th 1977, so I guess I answered my own
> question.
>
> Don't recall the first time I saw ESCAPE or CONQUEST on TV, but I
did see
> the first few minutes of ESCAPE at a drive in. I was four at the
time,
> and fell asleep in the back of my parents station wagon shortly
after the
> opening credits when the apes removed their helmets (I stayed
awake for
> the Pink Panther cartoon though). Didn't have quite the late night
> stamina I do now.
>
>
> Chris L
>

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In a message dated 1/29/06 8:16:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Well im my opinion he (James Francisus) was a better choice for the role than Burt Reynolds. I could not see him(reynolds) playing that part.  I thought JF did  a good job.

I always liked James Franciscus.  He was kind of sad in real life.  Never had the career as a movie star he wanted, his wife left him, smoked himself to death.  Did you know he was Jane Fonda's "first"?

-- Rory

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
>
> thanks really enjoyed those.
> whose collection are those from?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
>
> Hadn't found a second showing of Escape...

>>What the -- ?!!!! BENEATH is "based on Characters created by Pierre

>>I wasa going thru old TV guides that I've had stashed

>>I think the POTA movie was pretty much an original, too. It differs

>>this would be the third adaptation of this story, but i am still very

>>It's weird. The choir hymns aren't in a minor key

>>Put it all on there! I'd like to hear that other music! <<

>>My "favorites" order:

>>I saw the humans riding horses again.

>>No, it was for the National Association of Theatre Owners, an

>>As it's an area I'm interested in, what sort of

>>Henry Corden also did an odd cartoon series called "The Barkleys" that

>>Well, POTA's characters were all from the novel, with very few,

>>Not 12oz Mouse. I can't even watch three! That show sucks, and I'm

>>Squidbillies shouldn't be funny, but it is. <<

>>Perfect Hair Forever is only funny because it spoofs most of

>>I can only tolerated To Goes To The Mayor occasionally. <<

>>It's no ATHF or Sealab, and even Sealab went down hill after the death

>>The only really good new CN-AS show has been The Venture Brothers.

>> I guess it's true. People really do like "Beneath". Maybe the next

>> Silence of the Lambs was a sequel to Red Dragon.

> Actually Silence Of The Lambs is a sequel to Manhunter.
> Red Dragon is a remake.

In a message dated 1/31/2006 12:44:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

Silence of the Lambs was a sequel to Red Dragon.

 

Actually Silence Of The Lambs is a sequel to Manhunter.

Red Dragon is a remake.

 

 

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> Actually, the original novel is entitled Red Dragon. Manhunter was
> a made for TV movie adaptation of the novel Red Dragon.

>
> I am a bit amazed at how popular BATTLE is with the fans.As a

> generation APES goer who saw each and every film in the THEATRE as

> were released,I can tell you that BATTLE was the ultimate
> dissapointment.If you read the BATTLE chapter from our book PLANET

> THE APES REVISITED,you will see that even the director,cast and of
> course the critics all agreed that BATTLE was a mess. "Bloodless"

> Roddy MCDowall said years later.Having voted BATTLE as the

> weak link in the APES series,I will also boldly state that I adore
> BENEATH which ranks low on the totem pole for many of you which

> me! In many regards PLANET and BENEATH are the only two "true"

> of The Apes movies--As for my opinion of favorite pecking order--I
> think they rate in the order of their creation;
> PLANET,BENEATH,ESCAPE,CONQUEST and BATTLE--The TV series and

> lagging (limping) behind--Joe Russo
>

>
> I am a bit amazed at how popular BATTLE is with the fans.As a first
> generation APES goer who saw each and every film in the THEATRE as

> were released,I can tell you that BATTLE was the ultimate
> dissapointment.

> THE APES REVISITED,you will see that even the director,cast and of
> course the critics all agreed that BATTLE was a mess. "Bloodless" as
> Roddy MCDowall said years later.Having voted BATTLE as the absolute
> weak link in the APES series,I will also boldly state that I adore
> BENEATH which ranks low on the totem pole for many of you which STUNS
> me!

> of The Apes movies--Joe Russo