Haristas@... inquired:

>>Anyone have any idea what the hell this is?

http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-self-titled-LP-private-press-psych
_W0QQitemZ4831104689QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <<


It's been described as psychedelic music inspired by POTA. Quite a
rarity, and something I hope to include in the previously mentioned radio
spots/music inspired by CD project. I see there's one bid already- is it
from anyone in the group?


Chris L.

I never knew Kim had such recognition for Planet and I'm glad she
did.I'm even more convinced that nowadays she would have had her second
Oscar.Tim Roth, I think, won the Empire Award over here for what was,
whatever you think of the movie, a striking performance as Thade.I
thought Paul Giamattii was pretty special too, as Limbo.Obviously
Heston stole the whole movie, though! John, Scrolls.

Attachments :

In a message dated 2/6/2006 5:30:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Haristas@... writes:

Watch it, dude, or I'll post a picture of Zira's bust!




You mean like . . . This!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BustofZira.jpg

Now that is a nice bust. Thanks T!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/6/2006 5:30:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> Watch it, dude, or I'll post a picture of Zira's bust!
>
>
>
>
> You mean like . . . This!
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BustofZira.jpg
>

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EEEEEEEEEEOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/6/06 2:06:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> mail@... writes:
>
>
> > Can we have a Group rule that if a message has a suibject heading
> > of 'Nice Bust', but then subsequently does not have any pictures of
> > breasts, that should be made clear in the heading in future to
avoid
> > disappointment? Thankyou. John Scrolls.
> >
>
> Watch it, dude, or I'll post a picture of Zira's bust!
>

    Looks like James may need CPR. Elaine

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I remember seeing a live performance of this at a local movie
theater on the day after Thanksgiving in 1975. It was pretty lame.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Haristas@... inquired:
>
> >>Anyone have any idea what the hell this is?
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-self-titled-LP-private-press-psych_W0QQitemZ4831104689QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
> It's been described as psychedelic music inspired by POTA. Quite a
> rarity, and something I hope to include in the previously
mentioned radio
> spots/music inspired by CD project. I see there's one bid already-
is it
> from anyone in the group?
>
>
> Chris L.
>

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/7/06 6:29:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

It's been described as psychedelic music inspired by POTA. Quite a
rarity, and something I hope to include in the previously mentioned radio
spots/music inspired by CD project. I see there's one bid already- is it
from anyone in the group?


Chris L.

Has anyone heard it?  I can't imagine it's any good.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Wow! Somebody pinch me! Not only have we got the new comic and the
Ultimate Apes dvd, with the animated series, but Mike Whitty is
writing.It's just too much to take in, particularly as I know he'll
totally handle the third party narrative trap that often snags lesser
writers.John, Scrolls.

Hi there,

I didn't see the flub with Ms Hunter at all. However, I could see the
edges of her human mouth when she opened her mouth at one point.

I didn't see a flub.

Written by Cam

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> "During the interrogation scene, 'Kim Hunter' 's own mouth and teeth
> are visible (beneath the make-up) in the close-up of Zira's face."
>
> Is it true? I can't see anything. Even in the "Fight like apes"
scnee,
> there's that infamous shot of Caesar loosing his "mouth", but it's
not
> so clear.
>
> Are they definitely flubs, even if they are "unnoticeable"?
>
> Please, focuse on these two, don't reveal me any other!
>
> Thanks, T.C.
>

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Way to go James!!!!!!!! 

JamesA1102@... wrote:

James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be releasing
the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.  The DVD will
be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including the Apes
head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.

Please feel free to share this information with your friends on the Yahoo
Group and those involved in the online petition.  Thanks again for you
interest.


Steven Feldstein
SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
E:  steve.feldstein@...

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 6:03:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

I remember seeing a live performance of this at a local movie
theater on the day after Thanksgiving in 1975. It was pretty lame.

 

Did they wear the masks when they played?

 

 

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It's everyone that signed the petition and helped to support the effort that deserve congrats.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> Way to go James!!!!!!!!
>
> JamesA1102@... wrote: James - I wanted to get back to you
and CONFIRM that we will be releasing
> the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.
The DVD will
> be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including
the Apes
> head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
>
> Please feel free to share this information with your friends on
the Yahoo
> Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again for
you
> interest.
>
>
> Steven Feldstein
> SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> E: steve.feldstein@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
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pota One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards
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>
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Yes they afterward they took off their masks and manned a table in the
lobby selling the album.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/7/2006 6:03:18 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
> I remember seeing a live performance of this at a local movie
> theater on the day after Thanksgiving in 1975. It was pretty lame.
>
>
>
> Did they wear the masks when they played?
>

David Giwner <bikergator25@...> inquired:

>>Where on the East coast are you? <<


Upstate New York- Saugerties to be specific. About 40 miles south of
Albany. Do you live in the area? I know there's a few group members that
are somewhat centrally located.


Chris L.

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Yeah, her "inner" mouth. But you can see just the edges, and that is
hardly a "flub" in my book !!!!

What's about CAESAR? I think it's just the same as for Zira. Well,
what's the big deal? It's the internal flesh of their APE mouths.
You could interpret it this way!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "camblunt100" <camblunt100@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I didn't see the flub with Ms Hunter at all. However, I could see
the
> edges of her human mouth when she opened her mouth at one point.
>
> I didn't see a flub.
>
> Written by Cam
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@>
wrote:
> >
> > "During the interrogation scene, 'Kim Hunter' 's own mouth and
teeth
> > are visible (beneath the make-up) in the close-up of Zira's
face."
> >
> > Is it true? I can't see anything. Even in the "Fight like apes"
> scnee,
> > there's that infamous shot of Caesar loosing his "mouth", but
it's
> not
> > so clear.
> >
> > Are they definitely flubs, even if they are "unnoticeable"?
> >
> > Please, focuse on these two, don't reveal me any other!
> >
> > Thanks, T.C.
> >
>

James,

I warn YOU, this new POTA set will not ship to Italy's stores anytime
soon, maybe we Italians have to wait for years:

I PRETEND you'll give me the DETAILED account of any deleted scene
properly restored in the masterpiece!

Thanks, thanks, thanks, that's wonderful...

POTA RULES!

OH, now I'm shocked, LT!...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/6/2006 5:30:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> Watch it, dude, or I'll post a picture of Zira's bust!
>
>
>
>
> You mean like . . . This!
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BustofZira.jpg
>

Hey, James whats the difference between the Ape Head Collection and the Legacy set?  Dave-NYC...

JamesA1102@... wrote:

James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be releasing
the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.  The DVD will
be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including the Apes
head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.

Please feel free to share this information with your friends on the Yahoo
Group and those involved in the online petition.  Thanks again for you
interest.


Steven Feldstein
SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
E:  steve.feldstein@...

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Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

Thanks, Greg...I was just about to post and ask if anyone had heard
anything...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> Just checked the ship lists on Diamond Comics website and issue 2 of
Revolution on the Planet of the Apes is on the list of items expected
to be in comic shops next week.
>
> http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/expected_021506.txt
>
> Greg
>

This is the GREATEST NEWS!...I'll wager it had a lot to do with the petition...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:
>
> James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be
releasing
> the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes. The
DVD will
> be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including the
Apes
> head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
>
> Please feel free to share this information with your friends on the
Yahoo
> Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again for
you
> interest.
>
>
> Steven Feldstein
> SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> E: steve.feldstein@...
>

I believe the Ape head includes all five films, the TV series, the
Cartoon series and the 2001 remake while the Legacy set only
includes the five films.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, James whats the difference between the Ape Head Collection
and the Legacy set? Dave-NYC...
>
> JamesA1102@... wrote: James - I wanted to get back to you
and CONFIRM that we will be releasing
> the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.
The DVD will
> be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including
the Apes
> head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
>
> Please feel free to share this information with your friends on
the Yahoo
> Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again for
you
> interest.
>
>
> Steven Feldstein
> SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> E: steve.feldstein@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original
pota One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards
and much, much more...
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Fantasy science fiction Science fiction books Science
fiction book club Science fiction magazine Science fiction
novel Writing science fiction
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
>
> Visit your group "pota" on the web.
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> pota-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
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Service.
>
>
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>
>
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>
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>

Way to go, James! That's great news!!! Nice work!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:
>
> James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be
releasing
> the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.
The DVD will
> be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including
the Apes
> head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
>
> Please feel free to share this information with your friends on
the Yahoo
> Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again for
you
> interest.
>
>
> Steven Feldstein
> SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> E: steve.feldstein@...
>

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/7/06 2:47:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be releasing
the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.  The DVD will
be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including the Apes
head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.

Please feel free to share this information with your friends on the Yahoo
Group and those involved in the online petition.  Thanks again for you
interest.


Steven Feldstein
SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
E:  steve.feldstein@...

Well, well, well....  maybe Fox isn't so bad after all.  I may end up buying the head -- BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT IT!

What are you planning on buying, James?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/7/06 8:43:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

In a message dated 2/6/2006 5:30:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
Haristas@... writes:

Watch it, dude, or I'll post  a picture of Zira's bust! 




You mean like . . . This!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BustofZira.jpg

That's pretty nice bust!
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/7/06 5:32:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, apecalypsenow@... writes:

I warn YOU, this new POTA set will not ship to Italy's stores anytime
soon, maybe we Italians have to wait for years:

What video system do you have over there in Italy?  Are you PAL?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/7/06 2:20:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, camblunt100@... writes:

Hi there,

I didn't see the flub with Ms Hunter at all. However, I could see the
edges of her human mouth when she opened her mouth at one point.

I didn't see a flub.

Written by Cam

Let's all count how many times we see Roddy McDowall's bare neck in PLANET!

-- Rory<.html <.html

But what kind of damn dirty animal in the POTA world would ever start a
conversation thread with "nice bust" as the subject anyways???

=o)

P/S- Where's the Estella Warren photos?

Dan

> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:08:42 -0000
> From: "shanter2002" <mail@...>
> Subject: Re: Nice bust!
>
> Can we have a Group rule that if a message has a suibject heading
> of 'Nice Bust', but then subsequently does not have any pictures of
> breasts, that should be made clear in the heading in future to avoid
> disappointment? Thankyou. John Scrolls.

The Red Skull is not dead. I'll leave it at that so I don't spoil anything
for anyone wanting to read the current Cap issue.
The Avengers DVD uniforms are modern, but the only one that I really have a
problem with is a helmetless Thor. That makes no sense. Similarly, think
of how cool Aldo would have looked if he had the "Ursus" helmet!

Dan

> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:05:21 -0500
> From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
> Subject: Re: OT: Silver Surfer/Captain America
>
> "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@...> wrote:
>
> >>The FOX Avengers series lacked because it didn't feature the main
> characters. The core members only appeared in about one episode each.
>
> The website for the Avengers upcoming DVD is www.ultimateavengers.com <<
>
>
> Not the best approach when you think about it. Can't say I'm too thrilled
> about this new DVD- it looks like they're going with the new look of the
> characters (which I never much cared for).
>
>
> >>The Spiderman Unlimited cartoon was better, but only ran one season.
> At the end, Spiderman was still on the alternate earth. <<
>
> Nothing like leaving viewers hanging, eh? They did the same thing with
> RETURN now that I think about it. They really should have let Doug Wildey
> finish the final two episodes he had planned that wrapped things up.
>
>
> >>I agree about the costumes in the 1990 Captain America movie, they
> were good, but the story went nowhere. And the Red Skull's German, not
> Italian! <<
>
> That was a pretty stupid change. No idea what they made such a glaring
> error, especially when the original WWII Cap was obviously the source
> material.
>
>
> >>In the current comics, Captain America just ended a fantastic story
> ("The Winter Soldier") arc about how Bucky survived the plane
> explosion in the 1940's and is alive (this time for real!). <<
>
> A friend of mine had told me about that. I'll probably pick up the
> reprint books one of the days and read the whole thing in one go. Kinda
> ballsy that they actually killed off the Red Skull. Of course, no one
> ever really dies in the Marvel Universe either.
>
>
> >>Better keep this on POTA somehow......ummm...Yeah, I like BATTLE a
> lot, too, it's my third favourite. Much better than CONQUEST and ESCAPE.
> <<
>
> Film, or score?
>
>
> Chris L.

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Thanks for the great news! Now if only Fox crops Conquest correctly
(like the laserdisc, where the 1983 date is visible on the "ROVER"
statue) it truly will be the ULTIMATE COLLECTION.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:
>
> James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be
releasing
> the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes. The
DVD will
> be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including the
Apes
> head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
>
> Please feel free to share this information with your friends on the
Yahoo
> Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again for
you
> interest.
>
>
> Steven Feldstein
> SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> E: steve.feldstein@...
>

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 3:18:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

IM in NYC.. Manhattan. In your emails it sounded like you where in my neighborhood..

Dave.

 

Your emails as so clear it sounds like you're in the next room.

 

"The emails are coming from inside the house.  Get out of the house!"

 

 

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James, that's amazing.After all these years, Battle as it was meant to
be, Bomb and all. There should be some sort of fan award or medal for
you coaxing this out of Fox.Tremendous effort. Now, can you try to get
the full Conquest, the full Escape( the missing opening footage and the
footage from the hotel where they're messing around with toilets and
toothbrushes) and, just for something easy, the extended chase scene
from Planet, with Nova's pregnancy and the Hunters searching the cart?
I didn't think there was ANY chance before now! John, Scrolls.

Dan, if Bucky aint dead, then there's no chance that the Skull won't
be back--you can't keep a bad man down! As for Aldo wearing Ursus'
helmet, I totally agree(as we mentioned way back in Simian Scrolls
#5!)that the lack of a helmet makes Aldo a wuss.Full stop.However,
the total sad nerd in me has to point out that, gasp, Aldo DOES own a
helmet, and even wears it once.No lie. In Marvel's adaptation of
Battle, there is a panel, late on, showing Aldo with his troops on a
hill, surveying the Battle ground.He's on his horse and is wearing a
classic gorilla helmet.Just once---maybe he didn't want helmet hair?!
John, Scrolls.

>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:05:21 -0500
> > From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
> > Subject: Re: OT: Silver Surfer/Captain America
> >
> > "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@...> wrote:
> >
> > >>The FOX Avengers series lacked because it didn't feature the

main

> > characters. The core members only appeared in about one episode

each.

> >
> > The website for the Avengers upcoming DVD is

www.ultimateavengers.com <<

> >
> >
> > Not the best approach when you think about it. Can't say I'm too

thrilled

> > about this new DVD- it looks like they're going with the new look

of the

> > characters (which I never much cared for).
> >
> >
> > >>The Spiderman Unlimited cartoon was better, but only ran one

season.

> > At the end, Spiderman was still on the alternate earth. <<
> >
> > Nothing like leaving viewers hanging, eh? They did the same thing

with

> > RETURN now that I think about it. They really should have let

Doug Wildey

> > finish the final two episodes he had planned that wrapped things

up.

> >
> >
> > >>I agree about the costumes in the 1990 Captain America movie,

they

> > were good, but the story went nowhere. And the Red Skull's

German, not

> > Italian! <<
> >
> > That was a pretty stupid change. No idea what they made such a

glaring

> > error, especially when the original WWII Cap was obviously the

source

> > material.
> >
> >
> > >>In the current comics, Captain America just ended a fantastic

story

> > ("The Winter Soldier") arc about how Bucky survived the plane
> > explosion in the 1940's and is alive (this time for real!). <<
> >
> > A friend of mine had told me about that. I'll probably pick up the
> > reprint books one of the days and read the whole thing in one go.

Kinda

> > ballsy that they actually killed off the Red Skull. Of course, no

one

> > ever really dies in the Marvel Universe either.
> >
> >
> > >>Better keep this on POTA somehow......ummm...Yeah, I like

BATTLE a

> > lot, too, it's my third favourite. Much better than CONQUEST and

ESCAPE.

> > <<
> >
> > Film, or score?
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
>

Right now I'm leaning to the Legacy set but I may go for the Ape Head
in the end.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Well, well, well.... maybe Fox isn't so bad after all. I may end up
buying
> the head -- BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT IT!
>
> What are you planning on buying, James?
>
> -- Rory
>

Thanks but this was an effort of more than one person. The following
sites all got behind the effort to display the banner or link to the
petition:
Hunter's Site: https://pota.goatley.com/
Kass's Site: https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
The Forbidden Zone Site: http://www.theforbidden-zone.com/
Friends & Fugitives:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/friends_and_fugitives/
as well as other groups that annouced or allowed us to announce the
petition on their message boards.
Special thanks should go to Apecalypsenow who had the idea to do a
petition in the first place and then ran around to message boards
all over the internet to promote it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
>
> Way to go, James! That's great news!!! Nice work!!
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@ wrote:
> >
> > I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:
> >
> > James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be
> releasing
> > the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.
> The DVD will
> > be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including
> the Apes
> > head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
> >
> > Please feel free to share this information with your friends on
> the Yahoo
> > Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again
for
> you
> > interest.
> >
> >
> > Steven Feldstein
> > SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> > TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> > E: steve.feldstein@
> >
>

The FOX Movie Channel is running a contest where you can win one of the new POTA DVDs.

Go to this site: http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/sweepstakes.asp and scroll down to Sweepstakes Five.

Also scroll down to the description of Battle. It's noted that its the Extended Version.

.html <.html

Hi John- The last panel of the current Captain America issue (#14)
answers all questions about The Red Skull. You're right though.
Remember how only his shadow survived years back? The current
writing team on Cap is great, the latest relaunch of the book has
been very entertaining. Bucky's return from the dead couldn't have
been done more plausibly.
I'm gonna check that Marvel issue, that's a comic flub!
That gives me an idea for a homepage photo/spoof- Aldo
watching reruns of Sheriff Lobo? Or is that toooo hokey?

Long live BATTLE!

Dan

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:
>
> Dan, if Bucky aint dead, then there's no chance that the Skull
won't
> be back--you can't keep a bad man down! As for Aldo wearing Ursus'
> helmet, I totally agree(as we mentioned way back in Simian Scrolls
> #5!)that the lack of a helmet makes Aldo a wuss.Full stop.However,
> the total sad nerd in me has to point out that, gasp, Aldo DOES own
a
> helmet, and even wears it once.No lie. In Marvel's adaptation of
> Battle, there is a panel, late on, showing Aldo with his troops on
a
> hill, surveying the Battle ground.He's on his horse and is wearing
a
> classic gorilla helmet.Just once---maybe he didn't want helmet
hair?!
> John, Scrolls.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:05:21 -0500
> > > From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@>
> > > Subject: Re: OT: Silver Surfer/Captain America
> > >
> > > "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>The FOX Avengers series lacked because it didn't feature the
> main
> > > characters. The core members only appeared in about one
episode
> each.
> > >
> > > The website for the Avengers upcoming DVD is
> www.ultimateavengers.com <<
> > >
> > >
> > > Not the best approach when you think about it. Can't say I'm
too
> thrilled
> > > about this new DVD- it looks like they're going with the new
look
> of the
> > > characters (which I never much cared for).
> > >
> > >
> > > >>The Spiderman Unlimited cartoon was better, but only ran one
> season.
> > > At the end, Spiderman was still on the alternate earth. <<
> > >
> > > Nothing like leaving viewers hanging, eh? They did the same
thing
> with
> > > RETURN now that I think about it. They really should have let
> Doug Wildey
> > > finish the final two episodes he had planned that wrapped
things
> up.
> > >
> > >
> > > >>I agree about the costumes in the 1990 Captain America movie,
> they
> > > were good, but the story went nowhere. And the Red Skull's
> German, not
> > > Italian! <<
> > >
> > > That was a pretty stupid change. No idea what they made such a
> glaring
> > > error, especially when the original WWII Cap was obviously the
> source
> > > material.
> > >
> > >
> > > >>In the current comics, Captain America just ended a fantastic
> story
> > > ("The Winter Soldier") arc about how Bucky survived the plane
> > > explosion in the 1940's and is alive (this time for real!). <<
> > >
> > > A friend of mine had told me about that. I'll probably pick up
the
> > > reprint books one of the days and read the whole thing in one
go.
> Kinda
> > > ballsy that they actually killed off the Red Skull. Of course,
no
> one
> > > ever really dies in the Marvel Universe either.
> > >
> > >
> > > >>Better keep this on POTA somehow......ummm...Yeah, I like
> BATTLE a
> > > lot, too, it's my third favourite. Much better than CONQUEST
and
> ESCAPE.
> > > <<
> > >
> > > Film, or score?
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris L.
> >
>

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/8/06 12:31:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

This brought back memories of another project Cameron tried to get going for Fox...POTA. Says he:

  "I had a great idea with "Planet of the Apes", but it was Fox's asset. Even though I was supposedly developing it we didn't see eye to eye and they sort of picked up their marbles and that was that. They turned out, I think, possibly the most egregious film that they could have on that subject because they miscast the director. It's the only Tim Burton film that I don't like".

I went and looked up the word "egregious."  It means "outstanding in bad or evil qualities."

I prefer my term...

IT SUCKED!

-- Rory
<.html<.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/8/06 12:31:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

It still blows my mind that Fox spent a decade turning down the ideas of guys like Cameron and Oliver Stone (and, apparently, what Burton REALLY wanted to do). What exactly was Fox's idea that was so precious.

All you have to do is go read Jane Hamsher's book "Killer Instinct" and find out how the whole "re-imagining" thing started to know how ill-conceived and totally wrong and wicked it all was.  The problem is that those who are executives at the studios simply aren't filmmakers, they're mostly spoiled rich-boys just out of Ivy League schools and just looking to make their first million.  It's easier to make your money producing crap that a gullible public will buy than it is something of quality, so crap is what we get.

This is one of the reasons I've decided I'm definitely not buying that damn Ultimate head thing!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/8/06 5:16:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, drhasslein@... writes:

Thanks for the great news! Now if only Fox crops Conquest correctly
(like the laserdisc, where the 1983 date is visible on the "ROVER"
statue) it truly will be the ULTIMATE COLLECTION. 

Hope for the best but expect the worst and you'll never be disappointed.

Didn't the Lawgiver say that once?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/8/06 6:17:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Right now I'm leaning to the Legacy set but I may go for the Ape Head
in the end.

I think I'm going to just get the Legacy set, and wait and see if Fox really does release the cartoon series separately.  If not, I'm betting I can still get the Ultimate Edition months from now and maybe for less than $100.

I want to read the reviews of it first.  Will there really be TV spots included with the TV show discs this time?  I kind of doubt it.  Just how good will the cartoon series look?  Better to wait than just shell out over a hundred bucks for this thing now.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/8/06 6:51:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

The FOX Movie Channel is running a contest where you can win one of the new POTA DVDs.

Go to this site: http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/sweepstakes.asp and scroll down to Sweepstakes Five.

Also scroll down to the description of Battle. It's noted that its the Extended Version.

Check out though what's written about the cartoon series.  Something strange there.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Attachments :

.html.htmlHere's that original ad again!<.html<.html

Now thats funny... Dave.

LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/7/2006 3:18:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

IM in NYC.. Manhattan. In your emails it sounded like you where in my neighborhood..

Dave.

 

Your emails as so clear it sounds like you're in the next room.

 

"The emails are coming from inside the house.  Get out of the house!"

 

 

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I, for one, want to thank everyone again for their efforts and
services...This is GREAT!...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks but this was an effort of more than one person. The
following
> sites all got behind the effort to display the banner or link to
the
> petition:
> Hunter's Site: https://pota.goatley.com/
> Kass's Site: https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
> The Forbidden Zone Site: http://www.theforbidden-zone.com/
> Friends & Fugitives:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/friends_and_fugitives/
> as well as other groups that annouced or allowed us to announce the
> petition on their message boards.
> Special thanks should go to Apecalypsenow who had the idea to do a
> petition in the first place and then ran around to message boards
> all over the internet to promote it.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@> wrote:
> >
> > Way to go, James! That's great news!!! Nice work!!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, JamesA1102@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:
> > >
> > > James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be
> > releasing
> > > the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.
> > The DVD will
> > > be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including
> > the Apes
> > > head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
> > >
> > > Please feel free to share this information with your friends on
> > the Yahoo
> > > Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again
> for
> > you
> > > interest.
> > >
> > >
> > > Steven Feldstein
> > > SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> > > TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> > > E: steve.feldstein@
> > >
> >
>

Thansk for the info James. I do not know which one to buy. I have them all on DVD except for the cartoon series and the extended Battle. Is it worth buying the new set if I have a a DLP/ HDTV ??? Dave.

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

I believe the Ape head includes all five films, the TV series, the
Cartoon series and the 2001 remake while the Legacy set only
includes the five films.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, James whats the difference between the Ape Head Collection
and the Legacy set?  Dave-NYC...
>
> JamesA1102@... wrote:        James - I wanted to get back to you
and CONFIRM that we will be releasing
> the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes. 
The DVD will
> be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including
the Apes
> head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
>
> Please feel free to share this information with your friends on
the Yahoo
> Group and those involved in the online petition.  Thanks again for
you
> interest.
>
>
> Steven Feldstein
> SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT
> E:  steve.feldstein@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/8/06 3:04:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

I, for one, want to thank everyone again for their efforts and
services...This is GREAT!...

G

I e-mailed Bill Hunt at www.thedigitalbits.com and he's also confirmed that it's true.  There's mention of it on the site this afternoon.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/8/06 2:53:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Thansk for the info James. I do not know which one to buy. I have them all on DVD except for the cartoon series and the extended Battle. Is it worth buying the new set if I have a a DLP/ HDTV ??? Dave.

The transfers of the sequels look as if they'll be an improvement over the previous releases, not just because they'll be anamorphic, which will make them look better on your HDTV, but also because it seems the stereo will be as well.  We won't know for sure until we get them, but so far it looks good.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Attachments :

Here's a possible cover for a PLANET DVD I worked on today based on the cover
of the original PLANET LP of the Jerry Goldsmith score. I've scanned
elements of it and rearranged them, but I also had to scan two of the ads in the
PLANET pressbook to show more of the cage (and fitting them together wasn't
easy!). I also flipped the color photo of Zaius on the LP cover because all these
years we've been looking at it backwards! Finally I added to the top of the
cover the Fox Home Video "Studio Classics" banner. (I wish the studio would
release all it films that are pre-1975 as "Studio Classics.")

Anyway, this is basically the same as the PLANET 1-sheet, but I've always
liked it. It's elegant and doesn't sell the movie as anything less than a
serious film. I thought about adding more photo elements, but then it becomes too
busy and crowded, but I'll keep thinking about it, so I should have further
versions in the future.

-- Rory

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/RorysDVDcovers/PlanetDVDCoverI.jpeg

It sucked egregiously...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/8/06 12:31:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
>
> > This brought back memories of another project Cameron tried to
get going
> > for Fox...POTA. Says he:
> > "I had a great idea with "Planet of the Apes", but it was Fox's
asset.
> > Even though I was supposedly developing it we didn't see eye to
eye and they
> > sort of picked up their marbles and that was that. They turned
out, I think,
> > possibly the most egregious film that they could have on that
subject because
> > they miscast the director. It's the only Tim Burton film that I
don't like".
> >
> I went and looked up the word "egregious." It means "outstanding
in bad or
> evil qualities."
>
> I prefer my term...
>
> IT SUCKED!
>
> -- Rory
>

In a message dated 2/8/06 2:53:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Thansk for the info James. I do not know which one to buy. I have them all on DVD except for the cartoon series and the extended Battle. Is it worth buying the new set if I have a a DLP/ HDTV ??? Dave.

The transfers of the sequels look as if they'll be an improvement over the previous releases, not just because they'll be anamorphic, which will make them look better on your HDTV, but also because it seems the stereo will be as well.  We won't know for sure until we get them, but so far it looks good.

-- Rory

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I am not fan of POTA 2001, but both Cameron and Oliver Stone were going
to produce only. If Cameron really cared, he wouldn't have tried to
force Peter Hyams down FOX's throat(and as Rifkin's script did as well,
developed a direct sequel to Planet, ignoring that the sequels existed.
I think ignoring the sequels is ludicrous.) Furthermore, as awful as
2001 was, it wasn't as bad as the Terry Hayes screenplay that Stone was
going to produce. Just for the record, I also thank god every night
that Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin passed....

.html

In a message dated 2/9/2006 3:18:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, drhasslein@... writes:

as awful as 2001 was, it wasn't as bad as the Terry Hayes screenplay that Stone was going to produce.

 

Sam Hamm's was better.

 

<.html

> The tv show is going to be the
> same from what I hear.. Right?

It's supposed to include "TV Spots" and "Still Photos," which the
first release didn't have.

Hunter

Dan, by coincidence, I read your post just as my latest comics food
parcel arrived--I tore it open and found Cap issue 14(cool retro
cover!) and immediately checked out the last panel! Certainlt beats
Adventure's god awful 'Ghost of Breck' atrocity! Aldo could have had
a helmet all along--after all the rest of his uniform is a template
for what came later.Maybe it got shot off early in the Battle? John,
Scrolls.

>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@> wrote:
> >
> > Dan, if Bucky aint dead, then there's no chance that the Skull
> won't
> > be back--you can't keep a bad man down! As for Aldo wearing

Ursus'

> > helmet, I totally agree(as we mentioned way back in Simian

Scrolls

> > #5!)that the lack of a helmet makes Aldo a wuss.Full

stop.However,

> > the total sad nerd in me has to point out that, gasp, Aldo DOES

own

> a
> > helmet, and even wears it once.No lie. In Marvel's adaptation of
> > Battle, there is a panel, late on, showing Aldo with his troops

on

> a
> > hill, surveying the Battle ground.He's on his horse and is

wearing

> a
> > classic gorilla helmet.Just once---maybe he didn't want helmet
> hair?!
> > John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:05:21 -0500
> > > > From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@>
> > > > Subject: Re: OT: Silver Surfer/Captain America
> > > >
> > > > "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>The FOX Avengers series lacked because it didn't feature

the

> > main
> > > > characters. The core members only appeared in about one
> episode
> > each.
> > > >
> > > > The website for the Avengers upcoming DVD is
> > www.ultimateavengers.com <<
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not the best approach when you think about it. Can't say I'm
> too
> > thrilled
> > > > about this new DVD- it looks like they're going with the new
> look
> > of the
> > > > characters (which I never much cared for).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >>The Spiderman Unlimited cartoon was better, but only ran

one

> > season.
> > > > At the end, Spiderman was still on the alternate earth. <<
> > > >
> > > > Nothing like leaving viewers hanging, eh? They did the same
> thing
> > with
> > > > RETURN now that I think about it. They really should have let
> > Doug Wildey
> > > > finish the final two episodes he had planned that wrapped
> things
> > up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >>I agree about the costumes in the 1990 Captain America

movie,

> > they
> > > > were good, but the story went nowhere. And the Red Skull's
> > German, not
> > > > Italian! <<
> > > >
> > > > That was a pretty stupid change. No idea what they made such

a

> > glaring
> > > > error, especially when the original WWII Cap was obviously

the

> > source
> > > > material.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >>In the current comics, Captain America just ended a

fantastic

> > story
> > > > ("The Winter Soldier") arc about how Bucky survived the plane
> > > > explosion in the 1940's and is alive (this time for real!). <<
> > > >
> > > > A friend of mine had told me about that. I'll probably pick

up

> the
> > > > reprint books one of the days and read the whole thing in one
> go.
> > Kinda
> > > > ballsy that they actually killed off the Red Skull. Of

course,

> no
> > one
> > > > ever really dies in the Marvel Universe either.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >>Better keep this on POTA somehow......ummm...Yeah, I like
> > BATTLE a
> > > > lot, too, it's my third favourite. Much better than CONQUEST
> and
> > ESCAPE.
> > > > <<
> > > >
> > > > Film, or score?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris L.
> > >
> >
>

Jeff, if there is another Apes movie, I hope and pray that Stan
Winston gets the gig.I feel Rick Baker, even though he was rushed,
missed the 'feel' for our Apes, and Stan's screen tests a few years ago
had the best Ape look ever.John, Scrolls.

Back Issue #14 has a two page feature on the Apes comics, primarily the
US Marvel mag.It's got a Bob Larkin sketch for the cover of #17 in
there.Also, there's a Kamandi and Killraven focus, with some Star Wars,
so it's definitely worth a look and also worth asking them for more on
Apes. More details at www.twomorrows.com. John, Scrolls.

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/9/06 1:51:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

As we know, the new "Battle" will be the Extended cut. Just thought I'd mention the word is getting around. It got a mention on www.thedigitalbits.com  ; it's amazing the sites that are keeping track of this.

Well, I e-mailed them yesterday to know what was going on and asked him to confirm it with Steve Feldstein at Fox, which he did with remarkable speed.  So the interest is there.

That's what I was doing on the 38th anniversary.

-- Rory<.html <.html

John- I like that cover, too. At first I thought it was the partial
cover for the real 1940's Captain America # 14 but it's not. Cap is
in good hands. The writer has about the next 15 issues mapped out
and if they're all as good as the first 14, we're in for a treat.
Cap's "Winter Soldier" arc was MUCH better than the Spiderman "The
Other" arc, yet that one got the most attention, of course.
James does a lot of photo manipulation. Maybe he can extend
the extended version of BATTLE by adding a helmet to Aldo in a few
scenes! (Any Claude Akins fans objecting to the covering of his hair
should speak now.)

Dan

(waiting for Marvel to announce a Marvel Select Winter Soldier
figure).

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:
>
> Dan, by coincidence, I read your post just as my latest comics food
> parcel arrived--I tore it open and found Cap issue 14(cool retro
> cover!) and immediately checked out the last panel! Certainlt beats
> Adventure's god awful 'Ghost of Breck' atrocity! Aldo could have
had
> a helmet all along--after all the rest of his uniform is a template
> for what came later.Maybe it got shot off early in the Battle?
John,
> Scrolls.
> >

That's excellent, Rory...Now, if you could get Fox to do them all
this quality, we'd have classics inside and out!...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Here's a possible cover for a PLANET DVD I worked on today based on
the cover
> of the original PLANET LP of the Jerry Goldsmith score. I've
scanned
> elements of it and rearranged them, but I also had to scan two of
the ads in the
> PLANET pressbook to show more of the cage (and fitting them
together wasn't
> easy!). I also flipped the color photo of Zaius on the LP cover
because all these
> years we've been looking at it backwards! Finally I added to the
top of the
> cover the Fox Home Video "Studio Classics" banner. (I wish the
studio would
> release all it films that are pre-1975 as "Studio Classics.")
>
> Anyway, this is basically the same as the PLANET 1-sheet, but I've
always
> liked it. It's elegant and doesn't sell the movie as anything less
than a
> serious film. I thought about adding more photo elements, but then
it becomes too
> busy and crowded, but I'll keep thinking about it, so I should have
further
> versions in the future.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/RorysDVDcovers/PlanetD
VDCoverI.jpeg
>

Thanks for the info Hunter. Are the TV spots like commericials for an upcomming episode?  Dave-NYC

Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> The tv show is going to be the
> same from what I hear.. Right?

It's supposed to include "TV Spots" and "Still Photos," which the
first release didn't have.

Hunter

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> Thanks for the info Hunter. Are the TV spots like commericials for
> an upcomming episode? Dave-NYC

Yes.

That would be cool to see. Dave.

Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> Thanks for the info Hunter. Are the TV spots like commericials for
> an upcomming episode?  Dave-NYC

Yes.

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/9/06 3:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Thanks for the info Hunter. Are the TV spots like commericials for an upcomming episode?  Dave-NYC

I seem to recall they promised TV spots when the TV show was first put out on DVD -- and we didn't get them.  I wouldn't be all that sure we'll get them this time either.  I'll believe it when I see it.

Maybe we should ask Steve Feldstein to confirm this stuff too.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/9/06 12:02:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

That's excellent, Rory...Now, if you could get Fox to do them all
this quality, we'd have classics inside and out!...

G

Well, I'm planning on e-mailing that Steve Feldstein person at Fox.com and telling him they should think about these things for future HD versions.

-- Rory
<.html<.html

Oliver Stone didn't like the Terry Hayes script either and that's why he
split (he told me himself). I also talked to Cameron in person and he said
the script would be a "synthesis of the first two movies and some new
ideas". There's been rumors what his script would've been but you have to
take that with a grain of salt. I doubt very much his movie would be a
sequel to any of the originals (as has been reported) because the powers
that be wanted new makeups, etc.
Yeah, I'm glad Emmerich and Devlin didn't do it, or Michael Bay, or Chris
Columbus...everybody seemed to try it. If it HAD to be a bad movie at least
Burton brought a visual flair to it. - - - Jeff

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From: "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:41 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: James Cameron on POTA2001


> I am not fan of POTA 2001, but both Cameron and Oliver Stone were going
> to produce only. If Cameron really cared, he wouldn't have tried to
> force Peter Hyams down FOX's throat(and as Rifkin's script did as well,
> developed a direct sequel to Planet, ignoring that the sequels existed.
> I think ignoring the sequels is ludicrous.) Furthermore, as awful as
> 2001 was, it wasn't as bad as the Terry Hayes screenplay that Stone was
> going to produce. Just for the record, I also thank god every night
> that Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin passed....
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> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original pota One
Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
more...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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I always thought that Maurice Evans turned in a great performance in the
first film. Ditto for James Gregory in BENEATH.


Chris L.



"shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:

>>Talking about favourite films has made me think about the best acting

performances in the original five movies, and whether,in today's
science fiction friendly world, some Oscars might have been won.I think
Kim Hunter delivers an astonishing performance in Escape, full of
subtle moods and character, as well as bursts of fury and exasperation,
all of which are totally natural and leave you forgetting the
appliance.She really, really made Zira laugh and cry, and it's my
personal vote for the single best acting performance.Allowing for the
curse of the sequel, however,in Planet I have grown more and more
impressed with what Heston made of Taylor.People say it was over the
top but I think he crafted a legend with a soul, not an easy thing to
do.I think, today, it would get at least a nomination. <<

Haristas@... wrote:

>>What the hell is all this talking about "The Barkleys"?

The only Barkleys I know were those people on THE BIG VALLEY! <<


Bruce and I got into a small side discussion about some of the other
voice work that Henry Corden did. He had the lead in this particular
series.


Chris L.

JamesA1102@... wrote:

I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:

>>James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be

releasing
the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes. The DVD
will
be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including the Apes
head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.

Please feel free to share this information with your friends on the Yahoo
Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again for you
interest.


Steven Feldstein
SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT <<


Right there in the letter- an acknowledgement from Fox that they were
aware of the online petition. Everyone involved with that petition *in
any way* should feel good about what happened. Wouldn't you just feel
stupid though if you had a chance to contribute to something like this
but didn't. Talk about egg on your face...


Chris L.

What's "Beat At Cine Citta"?

Did you know that the MOST WANTED CD has two POTA related tracks? There's
a link to a page about the CD in the Links section.


Chris L.



LordTZer0@... wrote:

>>Sounds familiar.

I'm one of only two people I
know of who own a copy of
Beat At Cine Citta <<


lawford42@... wrote:

>>You have to pick up the Lalo Schifrin- MOST WANTED CD then. It's pure

70s. <<

Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:

>>As it happens, it is -- a couple of years ago, the entire series was

released on DVD by A&E, including a fan-made "final" episode that
showed what became of the Alphans. I have it -- good set! <<


Pretty cool twist at the end of that final episode, eh Rich??

>>I'll warn you, though -- it's VERY campy. I

remember loving it as a kid, but as an adult,
I'm finding it harder to watch. :) <<


Back in my youth, the addition of Maya had me thinking that the Second
Season was better. I've came to appreciate the First Season more when the
SciFi Channel was running it back in the mid 90's.

Anderson's previous series, UFO, was simply brilliant though. Oddly
enough, the two leads (Ed Bishop and Michael Billington) both died last
June, just a few days apart.


Chris L.

"shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:

>>Jeff, if there is another Apes movie, I hope and pray that Stan

Winston gets the gig.I feel Rick Baker, even though he was rushed,
missed the 'feel' for our Apes, and Stan's screen tests a few years ago
had the best Ape look ever <<


Any place we can see the Winston screen test?


Chris L.

Well, they did have all that time alone in the desert to pass...


Chris L.


"hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:

>>Well, you just ruined my fun!...I thought it was one of those games

where you "fill in the blank"...You've got Taylor and you've got Nova --
someone gets tied up -- and -- Oh, never mind...=) <<


Chris Lawless lawford42@... wrote:

>> BTW, you probably already figured it out, but the last line was

supposed
to read "Looks like a boulder with a rope tied around it.". My bad. <<

Haristas@... wrote:

>>At the end of his essay on the album jacket for the original PLANET LP

-- of
course!

Are you telling me you don't have the original POTA LP?!!!! <<


Actually, I do. I also have two copies of the BENEATH LP as well. Looks
like I'll have to dig it out again and read his essay.


Chris L.

Figures this would start at 1969: http://www.nyfcc.com/awards.php?cat=9.
I tried the link for 1968 (http://www.nyfcc.com/awards.php?year=1968),
and it doesn't list the Supporting categories.

Chris L.



LordTZer0@... wrote:

>>I wonder who got that? <<

Haristas@... wrote:

>>Hunter was nominated for PLANET in 1968, for a best supporting actress

award
from the New York Film Critics Society. <<

"mystic4ever" <mystic4ever@...> wrote:

>>The Red Skull is not dead. I'll leave it at that so I don't spoil

anything
for anyone wanting to read the current Cap issue. <<

Oh THERE'S a shock...

>>The last panel of the current Captain America issue (#14)

answers all questions about The Red Skull. You're right though.
Remember how only his shadow survived years back? The current
writing team on Cap is great, the latest relaunch of the book has
been very entertaining. Bucky's return from the dead couldn't have
been done more plausibly. <<


What do you mean that only his shadow survived? I think I missed that
storyline.

BTW, have they basically relaunched all their titles again?


Chris L.

"James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>>I remember seeing a live performance of this at a local movie

theater on the day after Thanksgiving in 1975. It was pretty lame. <<


So was this a local thing, or a touring act like Bill Blake and Paula
Crist?


Chris L.

"James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>>We've take a vote and the answer is no. You'll just have to take your

chances;-)
And in post about Richard Zanuck please always refer to him in the header
as Richard or Zanuck not as ... <<


RZ? R to the Z? Richie baby??


Chris L.

You should post it to the Groups files section along with Dave Ballard's
(which is already there) and the other one (can't recall who created it
right now). I don't remember now where in the files section they're
located.

Chris L.



Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

>>Yes, it's on Hunter's site in the Miscellaneous section, along with a

wrap designed by Dave Ballard. <<


Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

>>Weren't there a few other versions of artwork for the RETURN DVD? Greg,

didn't you make one up as well? <<

Haristas@... wrote:

>>All you have to do is go read Jane Hamsher's book "Killer Instinct" and

find
out how the whole "re-imagining" thing started to know how ill-conceived
and
totally wrong and wicked it all was. The problem is that those who are
executives at the studios simply aren't filmmakers, they're mostly
spoiled rich-boys
just out of Ivy League schools and just looking to make their first
million.
It's easier to make your money producing crap that a gullible public will
buy
than it is something of quality, so crap is what we get. <<


The POTA reimaging, or the whole reimaging rage in general?


Chris L.

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In a message dated 2/10/2006 12:32:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

What's "Beat At Cine Citta"?

Amazon.com: Beat At Cinecitta (Italian Film Score Anthology): Music: Various A

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I wonder why Jerry Pournelle changed Hasslein's name from Otto to
Victor? I also woner why I didn't think to ask him when Scrolls
interviewed him! It's 'Otto' in the comics(including Revolution) and
the original script and movie, but it's 'Victor' in the novel.Maybe
there's an ironic meaning in the name 'Victor'? I used to view Hasslein
as a pure bad guy, having first encountered Escape in the Marvel
comic,where Rico Rival draws him as a deranged madman.The novel softens
him a lot, with the back story about his son, and Braeden in the movie
really gives a layered, tortured man of duty, performance.I now kind of
like Hasslein and can understand his motives, even if I don't agree
with his aims and methods.Funny how we change as we get older. John
Scrolls.

My feelings exactly, Chris...Thank you...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:
>
> >>James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be
> releasing
> the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes. The
DVD
> will
> be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including the
Apes
> head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
>
> Please feel free to share this information with your friends on the
Yahoo
> Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again for
you
> interest.
>
>
> Steven Feldstein
> SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT <<
>
>
> Right there in the letter- an acknowledgement from Fox that they
were
> aware of the online petition. Everyone involved with that petition
*in
> any way* should feel good about what happened. Wouldn't you just
feel
> stupid though if you had a chance to contribute to something like
this
> but didn't. Talk about egg on your face...
>
>
> Chris L.
>

Weird, now that you mention it...
The etymology of Otto is German, as in the kings like Otto I or Otto
the Great...It originates with a Greek king...Whereas Victor is Latin
for, well, "victor"...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:
>
> I wonder why Jerry Pournelle changed Hasslein's name from Otto to
> Victor? I also woner why I didn't think to ask him when Scrolls
> interviewed him! It's 'Otto' in the comics(including Revolution) and
> the original script and movie, but it's 'Victor' in the novel.Maybe
> there's an ironic meaning in the name 'Victor'? I used to view
Hasslein
> as a pure bad guy, having first encountered Escape in the Marvel
> comic,where Rico Rival draws him as a deranged madman.The novel
softens
> him a lot, with the back story about his son, and Braeden in the
movie
> really gives a layered, tortured man of duty, performance.I now kind
of
> like Hasslein and can understand his motives, even if I don't agree
> with his aims and methods.Funny how we change as we get older. John
> Scrolls.
>

> Any place we can see the Winston screen test?

I never saw any test footage, but I do remember seeing test photos of
the makeup designs.

Hunter

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> I never saw any test footage, but I do remember seeing test photos of
> the makeup designs.

I have these archived somewhere, I remember posting them once before
but it may have been somewhere that removes members and then blames it
on Yahoo :0)

I'll go through my hard-drive tommorrow and see if I can locate them -
they are well worth another look.

Dave

To be fair, there were some people who had legitimate reasons for
not signing the petition. Rory for example feels that the theatrical
version of BATTLE is the 'official' version. I may not agree with
him but respect his opinion.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> My feelings exactly, Chris...Thank you...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
> >
> > JamesA1102@ wrote:
> >
> > I'm forwarding this email to let everyone know the good news:
> >
> > >>James - I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will be
> > releasing
> > the extended version of the Battle for the Planet of the Apes.
The
> DVD
> > will
> > be available in all versions of our upcoming releases including
the
> Apes
> > head, the Legacy collection and as a single disc.
> >
> > Please feel free to share this information with your friends on
the
> Yahoo
> > Group and those involved in the online petition. Thanks again
for
> you
> > interest.
> >
> >
> > Steven Feldstein
> > SVP, Corporate and Marketing Communications
> > TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME ENTERTAINMENT <<
> >
> >
> > Right there in the letter- an acknowledgement from Fox that they
> were
> > aware of the online petition. Everyone involved with that
petition
> *in
> > any way* should feel good about what happened. Wouldn't you just
> feel
> > stupid though if you had a chance to contribute to something
like
> this
> > but didn't. Talk about egg on your face...
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
>

That would be great Dave. I'm sure everyone would love to see them.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have these archived somewhere, I remember posting them once before
> but it may have been somewhere that removes members and then blames it
> on Yahoo :0)
>
> I'll go through my hard-drive tommorrow and see if I can locate them -
> they are well worth another look.
>
> Dave
>

Maybe Victor is his middle name. LOL

This is one of the reasons I've never considered the novelizations
canon. There are just too many discrepencies between them and the
films. Battle with at least written in concert with the production
of the film, with David Gerrold on set. Both Escape & Conquest were
written years after the films were completed.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Weird, now that you mention it...
> The etymology of Otto is German, as in the kings like Otto I or
Otto
> the Great...It originates with a Greek king...Whereas Victor is
Latin
> for, well, "victor"...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder why Jerry Pournelle changed Hasslein's name from Otto
to
> > Victor? I also woner why I didn't think to ask him when Scrolls
> > interviewed him! It's 'Otto' in the comics(including Revolution)
and
> > the original script and movie, but it's 'Victor' in the
novel.Maybe
> > there's an ironic meaning in the name 'Victor'? I used to view
> Hasslein
> > as a pure bad guy, having first encountered Escape in the Marvel
> > comic,where Rico Rival draws him as a deranged madman.The novel
> softens
> > him a lot, with the back story about his son, and Braeden in the
> movie
> > really gives a layered, tortured man of duty, performance.I now
kind
> of
> > like Hasslein and can understand his motives, even if I don't
agree
> > with his aims and methods.Funny how we change as we get older.
John
> > Scrolls.
> >
>

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/10/06 5:37:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Battle was at least written in concert with the production
of the film, with David Gerrold on set. Both Escape & Conquest were
written years after the films were completed.

I never knew that about Gerrold.  Are you sure?

My recollection is the novelizations of the last three sequels all appeared at the same time and that either just before or just after the TV series premiered.

-- Rory<.html <.html

You're right, James...Let me clarify that I did not mean individuals
who had legitimate reasons for their choice...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> To be fair, there were some people who had legitimate reasons for
> not signing the petition. Rory for example feels that the
theatrical
> version of BATTLE is the 'official' version. I may not agree with
> him but respect his opinion.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > My feelings exactly, Chris...Thank you...
> >
> > G
> >

I think that comes out in Gerrolds' interview in the Marvel Magazine,
doesn't it?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/10/06 5:37:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
>
> > Battle was at least written in concert with the production
> > of the film, with David Gerrold on set. Both Escape & Conquest
were
> > written years after the films were completed.
> >
>
> I never knew that about Gerrold. Are you sure?
>
> My recollection is the novelizations of the last three sequels all
appeared
> at the same time and that either just before or just after the TV
series
> premiered.
>
> -- Rory
>

Would that make the theatrical version the "penultimate-official"
version?...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

> Well, now I guess the theatrical version is no longer the "official"
version, at least as fas as Fox is concerned. So it seems in 2006 the
extended version is now the official version.

> -- Rory