>From: e s <e_r_s_1966@...>
>Subject: Re: THOUGHTS ON CAESAR
>Wasn't Milo also the name of the 3rd chimp that came back in time
>that was killed,,,,,a
>connection might have been made with the name if I am correct about that.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
>   That is an interesting point. In the novel, are there any guns? I
can't
> remember. It seems like Hollywood prefers action in movies, so guns
are needed.
> There are plenty of stories that could be told that do not include
guns. Elaine
>
Sure...The adventures on Soror really begin with the hunt...

G

 Oh, yeah, the hunt of course which starts the story going. Guns make more sense than apes using bows and arrows. Elaine

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/16/2006 10:32:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> That's true of the novel, not the movie!
>
>
>
>
> Yeah it is. Even though they're dissimilar
> the one is based on the other, and the
> oppressive government is a central theme
> of both.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/16/2006 10:34:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> rkid67@... writes:
>
> I thought the working title was 'Arse, Feck, Drink, Knickers On The Planet
> of the Apes'.
>
>
>
>
> Different screenplay.
> The actual title is
> A Shower of Bastards On The Planet of the Apes.
>

I looked at the novel as having a more oppressive
religious/philosophical system, than governmental...

G

 I saw the novel as a satire of our world. Elaine

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sophie" <cardwitch91@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:35 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: THOUGHTS ON CAESAR


(((Well, my friend... Humans, Humanoid Apes... there's no
difference! Cornelius and Zira are much different each other if you
ask me... Cornelius is impulsive, emotional, out of control. I think
to Caesar as the MALE version of Zira. They are also similar...
those make-up wizards shaped Caesar's face on Zira's one. NICE!)))

I agree completely,

Personally, I always thought Cornelius was the intelligent, geek and
push over one of the gang. Not to everyone, but her certainly lets
Zira push him around, I think it's frustrates her sometimes. He
hardly ever looses his temper when he should, and only ever looses
once where we can see. I've always thought so, because let's face
it... If Caesar were like Cornelius he'd probably not have been the
great ape leader he was. It takes a Zira like character to do it.
You seriously can believe that Caesar is Zira and Cornelius' child
cause he does seem to resemble Zira in face and in character, but
he's played by Roddy McDowell, who was Cornelius. It was very clever!

(((That's maybe the major change that Cornelius and Zira provoked...
apart the Plague-Strain II that they and the Icarus had the chance
to introduce. As far as concerned 'documentation', America was still
free in 1973 ('til the coming of C and Z, if you know what I
mean). )))

I think it's ironic that if they had just got rid of the slave part
of the story rather then the innocent lives of Zira and Cornelius.
Then there wouldn't have been all of the rubbish that ended up
happening... Then again, we'd be lonely without Caesar.

(((What bothers me is: SALOME' was an 'ordinary' chimp, not an
Humanoid one. CAESAR - being a HUMANOID chimp - grew up as such:
larger, bigger, taller, erect, humanoid-shaped and all that stuff.
Maybe Armando goofed the documentation again.)))

Either that, or Caesar pretended to be a girl through most of his
childhood! Thing is, we can't be sure on what is what... I doubt it
was mentioned whether the ape was humanoid or ordinary chimp, people
just accepted what Caesar grew into. Armando must have pulled a few
strings with the documentation. Maybe Caesar never was properly
registered as a birth in the circus. It would be risky. We have to
remember that Hasslein wasn't the only one looking for the "Milo";
he was just the one who pulled the trigger that killed Zira and
Salome.

(((In the opening of ESCAPE Dr. Milo is the one helping Zira put on
her clothes, and not Cornelius.... Hmmm.... Was the marriage just
a "front" for Cornelius? I think Zira liked Dr. Milo a little too
much if you know what I mean...)))

No, I don't know what you mean. I used to always think it was
Cornelius helping Zira put her clothes on, but of course it isn't
cause he's the one who takes he oranges and who is on the other side
of cage. It was Milo helping Zira put her clothes on. It's a little
weird cause my best friend is a guy but I'd make him turn the other
way if I was getting dressed. I guess she just has a lot of trust in
him. She was obviously close friends with him cause she was
devastated by his death, whereas Cornelius didn't seem nearly as
vexed.

Sophie








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  Roddy has said he based Caesar on a combination of Zira and Cornelius. I
think he found Cornelius boring to play. But Galen was his favorite.
  As for the "documentation" on Salome, I just think they accepted that Z &
C's baby was shot dead and didn't look into a switch. Maybe Armando forged a
death certificate for Salome a while later. I doubt Caesar grew up "as"
Salome. In "Conquest", they say they were led to believe the baby was shot
dead with it's parents.
  I don't think Zira and Milo "had a thing going" around the time of
"Escape". Maybe they had been lovers before she met Cornelius. They are
obviously close. More of an interesting couple than C & Z. I think Zira and
Milo had the friendship and she brought him in about Taylor. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sophie" <cardwitch91@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:35 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: THOUGHTS ON CAESAR


(((Well, my friend... Humans, Humanoid Apes... there's no
difference! Cornelius and Zira are much different each other if you
ask me... Cornelius is impulsive, emotional, out of control. I think
to Caesar as the MALE version of Zira. They are also similar...
those make-up wizards shaped Caesar's face on Zira's one. NICE!)))

I agree completely,

Personally, I always thought Cornelius was the intelligent, geek and
push over one of the gang. Not to everyone, but her certainly lets
Zira push him around, I think it's frustrates her sometimes. He
hardly ever looses his temper when he should, and only ever looses
once where we can see. I've always thought so, because let's face
it... If Caesar were like Cornelius he'd probably not have been the
great ape leader he was. It takes a Zira like character to do it.
You seriously can believe that Caesar is Zira and Cornelius' child
cause he does seem to resemble Zira in face and in character, but
he's played by Roddy McDowell, who was Cornelius. It was very clever!

(((That's maybe the major change that Cornelius and Zira provoked...
apart the Plague-Strain II that they and the Icarus had the chance
to introduce. As far as concerned 'documentation', America was still
free in 1973 ('til the coming of C and Z, if you know what I
mean). )))

I think it's ironic that if they had just got rid of the slave part
of the story rather then the innocent lives of Zira and Cornelius.
Then there wouldn't have been all of the rubbish that ended up
happening... Then again, we'd be lonely without Caesar.

(((What bothers me is: SALOME' was an 'ordinary' chimp, not an
Humanoid one. CAESAR - being a HUMANOID chimp - grew up as such:
larger, bigger, taller, erect, humanoid-shaped and all that stuff.
Maybe Armando goofed the documentation again.)))

Either that, or Caesar pretended to be a girl through most of his
childhood! Thing is, we can't be sure on what is what... I doubt it
was mentioned whether the ape was humanoid or ordinary chimp, people
just accepted what Caesar grew into. Armando must have pulled a few
strings with the documentation. Maybe Caesar never was properly
registered as a birth in the circus. It would be risky. We have to
remember that Hasslein wasn't the only one looking for the "Milo";
he was just the one who pulled the trigger that killed Zira and
Salome.

(((In the opening of ESCAPE Dr. Milo is the one helping Zira put on
her clothes, and not Cornelius.... Hmmm.... Was the marriage just
a "front" for Cornelius? I think Zira liked Dr. Milo a little too
much if you know what I mean...)))

No, I don't know what you mean. I used to always think it was
Cornelius helping Zira put her clothes on, but of course it isn't
cause he's the one who takes he oranges and who is on the other side
of cage. It was Milo helping Zira put her clothes on. It's a little
weird cause my best friend is a guy but I'd make him turn the other
way if I was getting dressed. I guess she just has a lot of trust in
him. She was obviously close friends with him cause she was
devastated by his death, whereas Cornelius didn't seem nearly as
vexed.

Sophie








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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, e s <e_r_s_1966@...> wrote:
>
> For all we know, Milo may have even been her brother....As far as
I recall nothing was ever much said about him
>
> Emily
>
> veetus@... wrote:
> Roddy has said he based Caesar on a combination of Zira and
Cornelius. I
> think he found Cornelius boring to play. But Galen was his
favorite.
> As for the "documentation" on Salome, I just think they accepted
that Z &
> C's baby was shot dead and didn't look into a switch. Maybe
Armando forged a
> death certificate for Salome a while later. I doubt Caesar grew
up "as"
> Salome. In "Conquest", they say they were led to believe the baby
was shot
> dead with it's parents.
> I don't think Zira and Milo "had a thing going" around the time
of
> "Escape". Maybe they had been lovers before she met Cornelius.
They are
> obviously close. More of an interesting couple than C & Z. I think
Zira and
> Milo had the friendship and she brought him in about Taylor. - - -
Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sophie" <cardwitch91@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:35 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: THOUGHTS ON CAESAR
>
>
> (((Well, my friend... Humans, Humanoid Apes... there's no
> difference! Cornelius and Zira are much different each other if you
> ask me... Cornelius is impulsive, emotional, out of control. I
think
> to Caesar as the MALE version of Zira. They are also similar...
> those make-up wizards shaped Caesar's face on Zira's one. NICE!)))
>
> I agree completely,
>
> Personally, I always thought Cornelius was the intelligent, geek
and
> push over one of the gang. Not to everyone, but her certainly lets
> Zira push him around, I think it's frustrates her sometimes. He
> hardly ever looses his temper when he should, and only ever looses
> once where we can see. I've always thought so, because let's face
> it... If Caesar were like Cornelius he'd probably not have been the
> great ape leader he was. It takes a Zira like character to do it.
> You seriously can believe that Caesar is Zira and Cornelius' child
> cause he does seem to resemble Zira in face and in character, but
> he's played by Roddy McDowell, who was Cornelius. It was very
clever!
>
> (((That's maybe the major change that Cornelius and Zira
provoked...
> apart the Plague-Strain II that they and the Icarus had the chance
> to introduce. As far as concerned 'documentation', America was
still
> free in 1973 ('til the coming of C and Z, if you know what I
> mean). )))
>
> I think it's ironic that if they had just got rid of the slave part
> of the story rather then the innocent lives of Zira and Cornelius.
> Then there wouldn't have been all of the rubbish that ended up
> happening... Then again, we'd be lonely without Caesar.
>
> (((What bothers me is: SALOME' was an 'ordinary' chimp, not an
> Humanoid one. CAESAR - being a HUMANOID chimp - grew up as such:
> larger, bigger, taller, erect, humanoid-shaped and all that stuff.
> Maybe Armando goofed the documentation again.)))
>
> Either that, or Caesar pretended to be a girl through most of his
> childhood! Thing is, we can't be sure on what is what... I doubt it
> was mentioned whether the ape was humanoid or ordinary chimp,
people
> just accepted what Caesar grew into. Armando must have pulled a few
> strings with the documentation. Maybe Caesar never was properly
> registered as a birth in the circus. It would be risky. We have to
> remember that Hasslein wasn't the only one looking for the "Milo";
> he was just the one who pulled the trigger that killed Zira and
> Salome.
>
> (((In the opening of ESCAPE Dr. Milo is the one helping Zira put on
> her clothes, and not Cornelius.... Hmmm.... Was the marriage just
> a "front" for Cornelius? I think Zira liked Dr. Milo a little too
> much if you know what I mean...)))
>
> No, I don't know what you mean. I used to always think it was
> Cornelius helping Zira put her clothes on, but of course it isn't
> cause he's the one who takes he oranges and who is on the other
side
> of cage. It was Milo helping Zira put her clothes on. It's a little
> weird cause my best friend is a guy but I'd make him turn the other
> way if I was getting dressed. I guess she just has a lot of trust
in
> him. She was obviously close friends with him cause she was
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
>   That is an interesting point. In the novel, are there any guns? I
can't
> remember. It seems like Hollywood prefers action in movies, so guns
are needed.
> There are plenty of stories that could be told that do not include
guns. Elaine
>
Sure...The adventures on Soror really begin with the hunt...

G

 Oh, yeah, the hunt of course which starts the story going. Guns make more sense than apes using bows and arrows. Elaine

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/19/06 1:24:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cardwitch91@... writes:
>
>
> > That's a good point, we don't know much about Dr Milo. What I'm
sure
> > of though is that if he was related to Cornelius or Zira, they
may
> > not have called him "Dr". By all accounts, he was their friend.
> >
> > Sophie
> >
>
> I don't find the Dr. Milo character very credible. He seems just
a
> convenient invention of Dehn's to get C & Z from there to here.
>
> I think Dr. Zaius would have had Milo lobotomized quick!
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> I think Dr. Zaius got to you!

>
> -- Rory

RE: "I actually only removed Whitty, and that was to preserve the posts he had made. I was one of the group owners, so THAT'S what gave me the right. I had tried to send you an e-mail through the group- I have no idea how you ended up deleted."

As you can see from the Yahoo notice I have forwarded you are a complete liar, as everyone else will now get to know.

See ya,
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> It is with reluctance that I have to post this, I really have had enough
> of certain people trying to stir up trouble between the groups.
>
> Lately Chris Lawless has been very forward in accusing the owners of the
> POTA DG of perceived wrong doings. For the sake of a fair hearing and to
> show that everything he says can not be believed I have had to resort to
> forwarding this little exchange between the two of us:
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>
>
>
> RE: "I actually only removed Whitty, and that was to preserve the posts
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> right. I had tried to send you an e-mail through the group- I have no
> idea how you ended up deleted."
>
> As you can see from the Yahoo notice I have forwarded you are a complete
> liar, as everyone else will now get to know.
>
> I was also an owner and you know that. What you have done is despicable,
> acting like a dictator then whining about anyone else that does. Give it
> a rest with your lies. You can see the proof below and as you have been
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lie.
> My opinion of Mr. Foster's honesty will at the moment remain
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> But let me pass on the following for everyone to make up their own
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(((Well, my friend... Humans, Humanoid Apes... there's no
difference! Cornelius and Zira are much different each other if you
ask me... Cornelius is impulsive, emotional, out of control. I think
to Caesar as the MALE version of Zira. They are also similar...
those make-up wizards shaped Caesar's face on Zira's one. NICE!)))

I agree completely,

Personally, I always thought Cornelius was the intelligent, geek and
push over one of the gang. Not to everyone, but her certainly lets
Zira push him around, I think it's frustrates her sometimes. He
hardly ever looses his temper when he should, and only ever looses
once where we can see. I've always thought so, because let's face
it... If Caesar were like Cornelius he'd probably not have been the
great ape leader he was. It takes a Zira like character to do it.
You seriously can believe that Caesar is Zira and Cornelius' child
cause he does seem to resemble Zira in face and in character, but
he's played by Roddy McDowell, who was Cornelius… It was very clever!

(((That's maybe the major change that Cornelius and Zira provoked...
apart the Plague-Strain II that they and the Icarus had the chance
to introduce. As far as concerned 'documentation', America was still
free in 1973 ('til the coming of C and Z, if you know what I
mean). )))

I think it's ironic that if they had just got rid of the slave part
of the story rather then the innocent lives of Zira and Cornelius.
Then there wouldn't have been all of the rubbish that ended up
happening... Then again, we'd be lonely without Caesar.

(((What bothers me is: SALOME' was an 'ordinary' chimp, not an
Humanoid one. CAESAR - being a HUMANOID chimp - grew up as such:
larger, bigger, taller, erect, humanoid-shaped and all that stuff.
Maybe Armando goofed the documentation again.)))

Either that, or Caesar pretended to be a girl through most of his
childhood! Thing is, we can't be sure on what is what... I doubt it
was mentioned whether the ape was humanoid or ordinary chimp, people
just accepted what Caesar grew into. Armando must have pulled a few
strings with the documentation. Maybe Caesar never was properly
registered as a birth in the circus. It would be risky. We have to
remember that Hasslein wasn't the only one looking for the "Milo";
he was just the one who pulled the trigger that killed Zira and
Salome.

(((In the opening of ESCAPE Dr. Milo is the one helping Zira put on
her clothes, and not Cornelius.... Hmmm.... Was the marriage just
a "front" for Cornelius? I think Zira liked Dr. Milo a little too
much if you know what I mean...)))

No, I don't know what you mean. I used to always think it was
Cornelius helping Zira put her clothes on, but of course it isn't
cause he's the one who takes he oranges and who is on the other side
of cage. It was Milo helping Zira put her clothes on. It's a little
weird cause my best friend is a guy but I'd make him turn the other
way if I was getting dressed. I guess she just has a lot of trust in
him. She was obviously close friends with him cause she was
devastated by his death, whereas Cornelius didn't seem nearly as
vexed.

Sophie

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, KRae <valwp@...> wrote:
> I thought the discussion had been about how the movie was
Americanized vs. the novel which naturally was not necessarily about
the US but rather human culture in general.
> The movie is a straight-forward warning about nuclear weapons and
so about the Big Players who were most likely to blow up the world at
the time. Taylor was a member of ANSA, very American, with his fellow
astronauts, planting their little flag in the sand. At first it
appears to be America vs. the insanity of the future, come feel our
pain, until you know the ending.
>
> The novel of course was written by a Frenchman and more of a
general comment or satirical play on human society,
more "sophisticated" in terms of the way that commentary was
presented.
>
> Wasn't that what the hell the conversation was about?
>
> Kass
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/21/2006 3:17:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> drhasslein@... writes:
>
> I just find it interesting that the director made the choice to
have
> Sal Mineo help Kim Hunter put her clothes on, and not
Roddy....Why Why
> Why?
>
>
>
> I have to say I never noticed.
> If that's Milo what they hell is
> Cornelius doing all that time?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I just find it interesting that the director made the choice to have
> Sal Mineo help Kim Hunter put her clothes on, and not Roddy....Why
Why
> Why?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe the director thought it would be funnier for Cornelius to take
> the oranges...Or maybe Roddy was funnier than Sal...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
> >
> > I just find it interesting that the director made the choice to
have
> > Sal Mineo help Kim Hunter put her clothes on, and not Roddy....Why
> Why
> > Why?
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Sophie" <cardwitch91@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe, but he could still do both. Help Zira put her clothes and take
> the oranges.

> Sophie
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe the director thought it would be funnier for Cornelius to
take
> > the oranges...Or maybe Roddy was funnier than Sal...
> >
> > G

It is a little bit weird, isn't it?

Being the wonder-bug I am, I just watched ESCAPE again and at the
start when they're in the cage, it is definatly Milo (Sal) helping
Zira (Kim) put her clothes on. Cornelius (Roddy) has his back turned
to them and is hanging up the space suites. He's on the other side
of the cage to Zira and Milo, and doesn't move cause he's the one
human gave their foof, oranges, to.

Sophie


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 2/21/2006 3:17:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> drhasslein@... writes:
>
> I just  find it interesting that the director made the choice to
have
> Sal Mineo  help Kim Hunter put her clothes on, and not
Roddy....Why Why 
> Why?
>
>
> 
> I have to say I never noticed.
> If that's Milo what they hell is
> Cornelius doing all that time?
>

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Of course -- but the director might have thought it played awkwardly to
have Cornelius on one side of the cage with Zirs, then "naturally" be
the one to cross the cage and accept the oranges...It's the only thing
that makes sense to me...IMHO...=)

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Sophie" <cardwitch91@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe, but he could still do both. Help Zira put her clothes and take
> the oranges.

> Sophie
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe the director thought it would be funnier for Cornelius to
take
> > the oranges...Or maybe Roddy was funnier than Sal...
> >
> > G

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Sophie <cardwitch91@...> wrote:

It is a little bit weird, isn't it?

Being the wonder-bug I am, I just watched ESCAPE again and at the
start when they're in the cage, it is definatly Milo (Sal) helping
Zira (Kim) put her clothes on. Cornelius (Roddy) has his back turned
to them and is hanging up the space suites. He's on the other side
of the cage to Zira and Milo, and doesn't move cause he's the one
human gave their foof, oranges, to.

Sophie


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 2/21/2006 3:17:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> drhasslein@... writes:
>
> I just  find it interesting that the director made the choice to
have
> Sal Mineo  help Kim Hunter put her clothes on, and not
Roddy....Why Why 
> Why?
>
>
> 
> I have to say I never noticed.
> If that's Milo what they hell is
> Cornelius doing all that time?
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Sophie Ball <cardwitch91@...> wrote:
>
> It could be, sure would be interesting if it were! lol!
>
> Sophie
>
> e s <e_r_s_1966@...> wrote:
> cuckoldry on the planet of the apes?
>
> Sophie <cardwitch91@...> wrote: It is a little bit weird, isn't it?
>
> Being the wonder-bug I am, I just watched ESCAPE again and at the
> start when they're in the cage, it is definatly Milo (Sal) helping
> Zira (Kim) put her clothes on. Cornelius (Roddy) has his back turned
> to them and is hanging up the space suites. He's on the other side
> of the cage to Zira and Milo, and doesn't move cause he's the one
> human gave their foof, oranges, to.
>
> Sophie
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/21/2006 3:17:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > drhasslein@ writes:
> >
> > I just find it interesting that the director made the choice to
> have
> > Sal Mineo help Kim Hunter put her clothes on, and not
> Roddy....Why Why
> > Why?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have to say I never noticed.
> > If that's Milo what they hell is
> > Cornelius doing all that time?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Now, Sal helping Roddy off with his coat I could understand. (insert witty banter by LordT
here)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Sophie Ball <cardwitch91@...> wrote:
>
> It could be, sure would be interesting if it were! lol!
>   
>   Sophie
>
> e s <e_r_s_1966@...> wrote:
>   cuckoldry on the planet of the apes?
>
> Sophie <cardwitch91@...> wrote:   It is a little bit weird, isn't it?
>
> Being the wonder-bug I am, I just watched ESCAPE again and at the
> start when they're in the cage, it is definatly Milo (Sal) helping
> Zira (Kim) put her clothes on. Cornelius (Roddy) has his back turned
> to them and is hanging up the space suites. He's on the other side
> of the cage to Zira and Milo, and doesn't move cause he's the one
> human gave their foof, oranges, to.
>
> Sophie
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> > 
> > In a message dated 2/21/2006 3:17:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> > drhasslein@ writes:
> >
> > I just  find it interesting that the director made the choice to
> have
> > Sal Mineo  help Kim Hunter put her clothes on, and not
> Roddy....Why Why 
> > Why?
> >
> >
> > 
> > I have to say I never noticed.
> > If that's Milo what they hell is
> > Cornelius doing all that time?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> But it's just somewhat funny that Milo is helping Zira put her

I saw the straight-to-video Ultimate Avengers DVD two nights ago and
thought it was pretty good.  71 minutes of core-team Avengers
animation!  The story takes place in the "ultimate" Marvel universe
which is revisionist.  I recommend it to any comic fans out there.

Two things:
1) I've never read an 'ultimate' comic and this DVD features the
Marvel Select WW2 Captain America which I thought existed only as an
action figure.  Can anyone tell me which comics specifically tell the
story of this version of WW2 Cap?

2) Marvel did this to test the waters of the possible success of a
real life Avengers film.  Why can't FOX follow suit and do a straight-
to-vid Planet Of The Apes DVD animated feature?  There's only been
one Apes cartoon, so they've got lots of opportunity where to go with
the project.  What do you guys think would be a great animated FOX
POTA start:
- sequel to BATTLE?
- TV show wrap up?
- POTA2001 sequel?
- Boulle's novel adapted?
- Terry Hayes' script brought to life?
- something totally new?


Dan

 

> What do you guys think would be a great animated FOX POTA start:

That version of Cap appears in The Ultimates.

 

I'd love to see an animated PotA film. My vote would be for remaking Return with better animation (and less monster bird screeching). Either that or a new take on the original concept.

 

Greg

canadianapefandan <mystic4ever@...> wrote:

I saw the straight-to-video Ultimate Avengers DVD two nights ago and
thought it was pretty good.  71 minutes of core-team Avengers
animation!  The story takes place in the "ultimate" Marvel universe
which is revisionist.  I recommend it to any comic fans out there.

Two things:
1) I've never read an 'ultimate' comic and this DVD features the
Marvel Select WW2 Captain America which I thought existed only as an
action figure.  Can anyone tell me which comics specifically tell the
story of this version of WW2 Cap?

2) Marvel did this to test the waters of the possible success of a
real life Avengers film.  Why can't FOX follow suit and do a straight-
to-vid Planet Of The Apes DVD animated feature?  There's only been
one Apes cartoon, so they've got lots of opportunity where to go with
the project.  What do you guys think would be a great animated FOX
POTA start:
- sequel to BATTLE?
- TV show wrap up?
- POTA2001 sequel?
- Boulle's novel adapted?
- Terry Hayes' script brought to life?
- something totally new?


Dan

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@...> wrote:

> What do you guys think would be a great animated FOX POTA start:

- sequel to BATTLE? Unlikely
- TV show wrap up? I'd prefer live action.
- POTA2001 sequel? No thank you
- Boulle's novel adapted? In my dreams!
- Terry Hayes' script brought to life? In my nightmares!
- something totally new? Most likely

I'd like to see a story set in the classic APES environment but not
necessarily one that has strong ties to what's gone on before. There's
a huge chunk of time, post Battle and Pre Planet that could be
explored with having to link to either.

I'm tempted to suggest explore other parts of the planet too - but
that brings back memories of some of the less memorable aspects of the
Adventure comics.

Dave

  I would like to see a post Battle story about the development of ape society that is deals with issues that are relevant to today. Elaine

In a message dated 2/24/2006 7:04:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, smugster2000@... writes:

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@...> wrote:

> What do you guys think would be a great animated FOX POTA start:

- sequel to BATTLE? Unlikely
- TV show wrap up? I'd prefer live action.
- POTA2001 sequel? No thank you
- Boulle's novel adapted? In my dreams!
- Terry Hayes' script brought to life? In my nightmares!
- something totally new? Most likely

I'd like to see a story set in the classic APES environment but not
necessarily one that has strong ties to what's gone on before. There's
a huge chunk of time, post Battle and Pre Planet that could be
explored with having to link to either.

I'm tempted to suggest explore other parts of the planet too - but
that brings back memories of some of the less memorable aspects of the
Adventure comics.

Dave

  I would like to see a post Battle story about the development of ape society that is deals with issues that are relevant to today. Elaine

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>
> I saw the straight-to-video Ultimate Avengers DVD two nights ago

> thought it was pretty good. 71 minutes of core-team Avengers
> animation! The story takes place in the "ultimate" Marvel universe
> which is revisionist. I recommend it to any comic fans out there.
>
> Two things:
> 1) I've never read an 'ultimate' comic and this DVD features the
> Marvel Select WW2 Captain America which I thought existed only as

> action figure. Can anyone tell me which comics specifically tell

> story of this version of WW2 Cap?
>
> 2) Marvel did this to test the waters of the possible success of a
> real life Avengers film. Why can't FOX follow suit and do a

> to-vid Planet Of The Apes DVD animated feature? There's only been
> one Apes cartoon, so they've got lots of opportunity where to go

> the project. What do you guys think would be a great animated FOX
> POTA start:
> - sequel to BATTLE?
> - TV show wrap up?
> - POTA2001 sequel?
> - Boulle's novel adapted?
> - Terry Hayes' script brought to life?
> - something totally new?
>
>
> Dan
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
> You seem to have this unreasonable obsession with the fantasy world
> of the Avengers, and Captain America, et.al...When are you going to
grow-up and drop that empty craving, in favor of the realities of the
Planet of the Apes...=)
>
> If I understand what you're asking, as far as Capt. America, that
> storyline probably is only in the originals, or reprints, from when
> he started, during WWII...
>
> On the POTA animated feature, I'd luv to see a faithful Boulle
novel
> adaption, done by someone quality like Disney/Pixar...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I saw the straight-to-video Ultimate Avengers DVD two nights ago
> and
> > thought it was pretty good. 71 minutes of core-team Avengers
> > animation! The story takes place in the "ultimate" Marvel
universe
> > which is revisionist. I recommend it to any comic fans out there.
> >
> > Two things:
> > 1) I've never read an 'ultimate' comic and this DVD features the
> > Marvel Select WW2 Captain America which I thought existed only as
> an
> > action figure. Can anyone tell me which comics specifically tell
> the
> > story of this version of WW2 Cap?
> >
> > 2) Marvel did this to test the waters of the possible success of
a
> > real life Avengers film. Why can't FOX follow suit and do a
> straight-
> > to-vid Planet Of The Apes DVD animated feature? There's only
been
> > one Apes cartoon, so they've got lots of opportunity where to go
> with
> > the project. What do you guys think would be a great animated
FOX
> > POTA start:
> > - sequel to BATTLE?
> > - TV show wrap up?
> > - POTA2001 sequel?
> > - Boulle's novel adapted?
> > - Terry Hayes' script brought to life?
> > - something totally new?
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
>

>
> Glen- My post wasn't that confusing.
>
> Dan

Here is our very own Greg P. showing off his latest acquisition. Thanks for sharing this Greg.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Here is our very own Greg P. showing off his latest acquisition.
Thanks
> for sharing this Greg.
>

>
> That's nice. What is it??????

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> That's nice. What is it??????

And where is it???

Dave

That's nice. What is it??????


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Here is our very own Greg P. showing off his latest acquisition.
Thanks
> for sharing this Greg.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> The photo didn't come through for me, either. Perhaps James can
upload the photo to the photos section.
>
> Greg
>
> Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote:
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
> >
> > That's nice. What is it??????
>
> And where is it???
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, e s <e_r_s_1966@...> wrote:
>
> For all we know, Milo may have even been her brother....As far as I
recall nothing was ever much said about him
>
> Emily
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>But not when he's being throttled by the gorilla

> In a message dated 2/26/2006 12:30:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
> They refer to and address him as Dr. Milo

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>

> Seriously, I've never thought that C&Z were close personal friends
with
> Milo. They refer to and address him as Dr. Milo which is how you
would
> address a colleague versus just calling him Milo which is how you
would
> address a friend.

>
> Wait a minute!...Look closely...Is it my imagination, or does Dr.

> look a lot like Caesar?!...=)
>
> G
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Wait a minute!...Look closely...Is it my imagination, or does Dr.
> Milo
> > look a lot like Caesar?!...=)
> >
> > G
> >
>
> POST OF THE YEAR.
>
> T.C.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Wait a minute!...Look closely...Is it my imagination, or does Dr.
Milo
> look a lot like Caesar?!...=)
>
> G
>

POST OF THE YEAR.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Wait a minute!...Look closely...Is it my imagination, or does Dr.
> Milo
> > look a lot like Caesar?!...=)
> >
> > G
> >
>
> POST OF THE YEAR.
>
> T.C.
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In a message dated 2/26/2006 12:30:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

They refer to and address him as Dr. Milo

 

But not when he's being throttled by the gorilla.

 

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
>
> According to this week's LFTL, General Amar had kicked the bucket.
Now if I
> include him in a lesson, he'll have to be a ghost or in a dream. Did
he have
> any sons, James? Elaine
>

Of course he had sons. He was a model for us all, a gorilla to
remember.

And no one said that the lessons need to linear.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
>
> According to this week's LFTL, General Amar had kicked the bucket.
Now if I
> include him in a lesson, he'll have to be a ghost or in a dream. Did
he have
> any sons, James? Elaine
>

   What a relief, the good general reproduced and had heirs. I can do a lot with those sons.

   Elaine

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> << Wait a minute!...Look closely...Is it my imagination, or does Dr.
Milo
> look a lot like Caesar?!...=)>>
>
>
>
>
> Perhaps the price of a ticket to the past was a night with Zira.
> Or maybe she inherited Stewart's spot as the new Eve.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@...> wrote:
>
> After being described in 'Wizard' as an 'acclaimed' new comic,
> Revolution now scores a very impressive 7 out of 10 review in the
> current 'Comics International', which beats all of the X-men, Spider-
> man and main Batman books, so the guys at MR Comics seem to be
putting
> out a product that stands not just as an Ape niche product, but also
as
> an excellent comic.We can forget the horrors of the Adventure series,
> we've got a bona fide winner of an Apes comic to enjoy! Let's buy it
> and support it, to keep it going.John, Scrolls.
>

In a message dated 2/26/2006 4:25:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

ancient ape, Dr. Zaius

 

I saw him tonight on Robot Chicken

 

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In a message dated 2/27/2006 6:47:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

No...I can't see that...Zira has too much class...Dr. Milo plied her
with "grape-juice plus", obviously...=)

 

That may be, but she was making sheep's eyes at Taylor

all through the first film.  She may have just wanted to make

Cornelius jealous.  And females are fickled as far as affairs

of the heart are concerned -- they can't even trust themselves.

 

  LT, are you the new DR. Phil? Elaine

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No...I can't see that...Zira has too much class...Dr. Milo plied her
with "grape-juice plus", obviously...=)

 

That may be, but she was making sheep's eyes at Taylor

all through the first film.  She may have just wanted to make

Cornelius jealous.  And females are fickled as far as affairs

of the heart are concerned -- they can't even trust themselves.

 

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