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Group: pota Message: 36651 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
Group: pota Message: 36652 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
Group: pota Message: 36653 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 36654 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
Group: pota Message: 36655 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
Group: pota Message: 36656 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] BENEATH deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 36657 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: POTA DVD set (Region2 version)
Group: pota Message: 36658 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 36659 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
Group: pota Message: 36660 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
Group: pota Message: 36661 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
Group: pota Message: 36662 From: sonyscout Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: POTA events
Group: pota Message: 36663 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape Deleted Scene
Group: pota Message: 36664 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: POTA events
Group: pota Message: 36665 From: James Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: DVD Cover
Group: pota Message: 36666 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Cover
Group: pota Message: 36667 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] DVD Cover
Group: pota Message: 36668 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes movie clips and audio b
Group: pota Message: 36669 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Apes ID
Group: pota Message: 36670 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 36671 From: JamesA1102 Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Fw: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 36672 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
Group: pota Message: 36673 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
Group: pota Message: 36674 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
Group: pota Message: 36675 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
Group: pota Message: 36676 From: Beverly A. Thompson Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Absolutely overwhelmed with the beautiful artwork in the files!
Group: pota Message: 36677 From: Beverly A. Thompson Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: The Gorilla Guard costume is my favorite,then Dr.Zira's!
Group: pota Message: 36678 From: drhasslein Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: POTA events
Group: pota Message: 36679 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: Re: Absolutely overwhelmed with the beautiful artwork in the files!
Group: pota Message: 36680 From: myogaeba Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: pota movies
Group: pota Message: 36681 From: ape_mom Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36682 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36683 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36684 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The Gorilla Guard costume is my favorite,t
Group: pota Message: 36685 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
Group: pota Message: 36686 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [simianchat] Re: Cheetah
Group: pota Message: 36687 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] pota movies
Group: pota Message: 36688 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36689 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36690 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36691 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36692 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: [simianchat] Re: Cheetah
Group: pota Message: 36694 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Cheeta has another birthday!
Group: pota Message: 36695 From: bevnlarryt@wmconnect.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The Gorilla Guard costume is my favorite,t
Group: pota Message: 36696 From: ron kenner Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] membership question
Group: pota Message: 36697 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: [simianchat] Re: Cheetah
Group: pota Message: 36698 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/10/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] membership question
Group: pota Message: 36699 From: Chris Lawless Date: 4/11/2006
Subject: Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 36700 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/11/2006
Subject: Rare Apes photos
Group: pota Message: 36701 From: James Date: 4/11/2006
Subject: Re: Rare Apes photos
Group: pota Message: 36702 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/11/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
Group: pota Message: 36703 From: Chris Lawless Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: photo opportunities
Group: pota Message: 36704 From: Mark Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: photo opportunities
Group: pota Message: 36705 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: Rare Apes photos
Group: pota Message: 36706 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 78
Group: pota Message: 36707 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
Group: pota Message: 36708 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: photo opportunities
Group: pota Message: 36709 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: More rare photos
Group: pota Message: 36710 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Even more rare photos
Group: pota Message: 36711 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Still even more rare photos
Group: pota Message: 36712 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
Group: pota Message: 36713 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36714 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36715 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36716 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
Group: pota Message: 36717 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36718 From: apecalypsenow Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36719 From: Eric McConnell Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36720 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
Group: pota Message: 36721 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36723 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36724 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Still More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36725 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36726 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: Still More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36727 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36728 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Let's try this again - More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36729 From: James Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: Still More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36730 From: James Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36731 From: Dave B Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36732 From: Dave B Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution on the Planet of the Apes #3 (spoiler...
Group: pota Message: 36733 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Power Records
Group: pota Message: 36734 From: apecalypsenow Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36735 From: bevnlarryt@wmconnect.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36736 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Power Records
Group: pota Message: 36737 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36738 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36739 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36740 From: Eric McConnell Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36741 From: Todd Mount Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36742 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36743 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36744 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 36745 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: More POTA Photos
Group: pota Message: 36746 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Power Records
Group: pota Message: 36747 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36748 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36749 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36750 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
Group: pota Message: 36751 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/13/2006
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] RE: [pota_tv] Power Records



Group: pota Message: 36651 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 4/7/06 7:22:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:


In a message dated 4/7/2006 7:06:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Zasco1957@... writes:

I do remember the GO APE festival--this would have been in the summer of 1973 in my hometown (Topeka, KS) and that came up on the screen in our theater.

Zach     



I saw it too in 1973 (in Brooklyn NY at the long-gone Benson theatre) but would have remembered if that popped on the screen. Maybe they didn't use it in the N.Y. prints of the film.
  Bruce




The "GO APE" reissue of all five APES movies didn't officially happen until the summer of 1974, but in 1973 many theatres did show all five films or combinations of two or three or four as simple re-issues.

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 36652 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
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In a message dated 4/7/2006 9:45:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
The "GO APE" reissue of all five APES movies didn't officially happen until the summer of 1974, but in 1973 many theatres did show all five films or combinations of two or three or four as simple re-issues.

-- Rory


That's right I forgot about that. When "Battle" premiered in the summer of 1973 they showed all five movies together then did it again the following summer of 1974.
Bruce 
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Group: pota Message: 36653 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
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I know there was a scene filmed where the Soldier Ape fires his gun
through the bar window of the jail cell. I actually have a movie
clip of that on my computer. I also have heard that there was more
scenes filemd with Zaius and Ursus in the steam bath but were cut to
what we have now.
John


In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> From the first time I saw the film fully on CBS, I remember seeing
a
> scene where two of the mutants were walking through the city
carrying out
> Caspay's edict and saying "Adults to the cathedral, children
indoors" a
> few times. Aside from the fact that I was only 7 or 8 at the time
and
> later out figured out that I probably imagined it, the scene really
> wouldn't make sense anyway because it was supposed to be a "public
> thought projection".
>
> I also remember the gorilla army audibly gasping when they came
upon the
> ruins of NYC in the desert.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> >>Okay, since we're on the subject of hallucinations, memory slips
or
> facts -- I would swear on a stack of Bibles (or whatever) that at
> that very "Two Apes for the Price of One" showing, in San
Francisco,
> I saw the scene where the mutant guards lead Brent passed the
> children playing "Ring-a-ring o' neutrons..."... <<
>
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Group: pota Message: 36654 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
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I recall something like it, saying, "The story does not end there; it
continues, "Beneath the Planet of the Apes!"...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/7/06 2:58:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
>
> > Seriously, one thing I do remember from the GO APE! festivals is
at the end
> > of PLANET after the final credits faded out another screen came
up saying
> > "THIS IS NOT THE END. THE STORY CONTINUES IN "BENEATH THE PLANET
OF THE APES"
> > COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU. Does anyone else remember
seeing this?
> >
> >
>
> I never saw that! Maybe it was done for a certain release in a
some regions
> of the country.
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 36655 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

> The "GO APE" reissue of all five APES movies didn't officially happen
until
> the summer of 1974, but in 1973 many theatres did show all five films
or
> combinations of two or three or four as simple re-issues.
>
> -- Rory
>
All I remember seeing was "Two Apes for the Price of One!" -- POTA and
BTPOTA...And "Three Apes for the Price of One!" -- POTA, BTPOTA and
EFTPOTA...Someone had cut out the shot of C, Z and M on the beach and
taped it to the "Two Apes" poster...Then I remember the "Go Ape!"
festival in San Francisco...

G
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Group: pota Message: 36656 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] BENEATH deleted scenes
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    WOW!  Now that's a scene that I must have overlooked (the gorillas gasping when they saw the nuked buried ruins of NYC)...and Chris, it seems as if I may have written you once before regarding the deleted scenes from Beneath...a few years ago, I also spoke of where did Milo fit in all of this.  Because there was no mention of him whatsoever in the first two movies.
     
    Zach 
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    From: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: 04/07/06 18:39:08
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Planet of the Apes] BENEATH deleted scenes
     
    From the first time I saw the film fully on CBS, I remember seeing a
    scene where two of the mutants were walking through the city carrying out
    Caspay's edict and saying "Adults to the cathedral, children indoors" a
    few times. Aside from the fact that I was only 7 or 8 at the time and
    later out figured out that I probably imagined it, the scene really
    wouldn't make sense anyway because it was supposed to be a "public
    thought projection".
     
    I also remember the gorilla army audibly gasping when they came upon the
    ruins of NYC in the desert.
     
     
    Chris L.
     
     
     
    "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
     
    >>Okay, since we're on the subject of hallucinations, memory slips or
    facts -- I would swear on a stack of Bibles (or whatever) that at
    that very "Two Apes for the Price of One" showing, in San Francisco,
    I saw the scene where the mutant guards lead Brent passed the
    children playing "Ring-a-ring o' neutrons..."... <<
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 36657 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/8/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: POTA DVD set (Region2 version)
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    I have number 9,656.
     
    Greg

    Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
    > I'm
    > number 772--anybody higher?

    Mine is four thousand something....

    Hunter
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    Group: pota Message: 36658 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/8/2006
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      .html.htmlIn a message dated 4/8/06 4:48:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Zasco1957@... writes:


      WOW!  Now that's a scene that I must have overlooked (the gorillas gasping when they saw the nuked buried ruins of NYC)...and Chris, it seems as if I may have written you once before regarding the deleted scenes from Beneath...a few years ago, I also spoke of where did Milo fit in all of this.  Because there was no mention of him whatsoever in the first two movies.

      Zach 



      Why should there have been mention of Milo in the first two movies? 

      You have to remember that those films weren't made with sequels in mind.  Milo wasn't invented by Dehn until he was asked by Fox to write yet a third film.  It wasn't until the third film that the APES film series was born and Dehn started writing with the intention that there would possibly be further installments. 

      It should also be remembered that as far as there being an "APES Saga," there really only is one within the last three films in the series -- that saga being the life of Caesar, his birth in ESCAPE, his ascendency in CONQUEST, and finally his struggles in BATTLE.

      PLANET and BENEATH really aren't part of this saga.  PLANET is Taylor's story, and BENEATH is merely a sequel to the first film.  After the last three films were made, then BENEATH, and to a lesser extent PLANET, became prelude to them, but they're really not part of the saga contained in the last three films.

      Most APES fans like to bundle all the films together as one long story, and 20th Century-Fox is guilty of this too, much to my displeasure, but if you look at it with a scholarly eye, much as an academician like Cornelius would do, it really just isn't so.

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 36659 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/8/2006
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      I have the ad from our local paper for the opening of
      GO APE but it's from June 28 1975........!
      They for some reason only showed the 4 sequals and not
      PLANET!

      Tim

      --- stenosaurus@... wrote:

      >
      > In a message dated 4/7/2006 7:06:25 P.M. Eastern
      > Standard Time,
      > Zasco1957@... writes:
      >
      > I do remember the GO APE festival--this would have
      > been in the summer of
      > 1973 in my hometown (Topeka, KS) and that came up on
      > the screen in our theater.
      >
      > Zach
      >
      >
      >
      > I saw it too in 1973 (in Brooklyn NY at the
      > long-gone Benson theatre) but
      > would have remembered if that popped on the screen.
      > Maybe they didn't use it in
      > the N.Y. prints of the film.
      > Bruce
      >


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      Group: pota Message: 36660 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/8/2006
      Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
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        What I recall was that it was in Ape font with pics...but the message on our theater also said, "This Is Not The End Of The Story...Next Is 'Beneath The Planet Of The Apes'"!
         
        Also, in our theater, they didn't sell popcorn, they sold bananas and peanuts the whole time!  I hadn't eaten that many bananas and peanuts until that day...oh well, I guess that they were more nutritious than candy bars!
         
        Zach     
         
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        From: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Date: 04/07/06 18:58:34
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: MORE deleted scene recollections
         
        I don't remember seeing that either.....I wonder if
        they attached it to just the "Go APE" prints that were
        sent out specifically for the festival....odd that it
        would say "coming soon to a theatre near you"...it
        should have said "coming up next! Go to the bathroom
        and get mor popcorn now!"
         
        Do you remember it in just regular type or was it in
        Ape font with pics?
         
        Tim
         
        --- Haristas@... wrote:
         
        > In a message dated 4/7/06 2:58:07 PM Eastern
        > Daylight Time,
        > JamesA1102@... writes:
        >
        >
        > > Seriously, one thing I do remember from the GO
        > APE! festivals is at the end
        > > of PLANET after the final credits faded out
        > another screen came up saying
        > > "THIS IS NOT THE END. THE STORY CONTINUES IN
        > "BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES"
        > > COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU. Does anyone
        > else remember seeing this?
        > >
        > >
        >
        > I never saw that!  Maybe it was done for a certain
        > release in a some regions
        > of the country.
        >
        > -- Rory
        >
         
         
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        Group: pota Message: 36661 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/8/2006
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        .html.htmlIn a message dated 4/8/06 2:48:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:


        I have the ad from our local paper for the opening of
        GO APE but it's from June 28 1975........!
        They for some reason only showed the 4 sequals and not
        PLANET!

        Tim


        Yeah, there were re-issues of the GO APE release, but if you have the posters or pressbook for that release it will have the year 1974 on it.

        -- Rory
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        Group: pota Message: 36662 From: sonyscout Date: 4/9/2006
        Subject: POTA events
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        Hello all, of course once again im all excited and find myself surfing
        the net for hours on end and end watching the movies, listening to the
        records online, etc.

        my question is this" are there any conventions, gatherings, tributes,
        or anywhre for us POTA nerds (ie, star wars geeks) to hang out
        together for a weekend or something? has anyone ever thought of
        putting one together?

        POTAfest 06?

        ill help arrange it.
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        Group: pota Message: 36663 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/9/2006
        Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape Deleted Scene
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          Please don't call yourself "addle brained", Beve.  I definitely remembered BENEATH because of the special effects and the matte paintings of the ruined landmarks of NYC.
          I just wish that, somehow...the deleted scenes from ESCAPE could somehow be cobbled together.
           
          Zach   
           
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          From: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Date: 04/06/06 13:04:17
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape Deleted Scene
           
          Yes.,Zach ,that would have been interesting.Were there any OTHER POTA films that had scenes removed ? Thanks , Addle Brained Beve
           
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          Group: pota Message: 36664 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/9/2006
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          .html.htmlIn a message dated 4/9/06 1:30:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sonyscout@... writes:


          my question is this" are there any conventions, gatherings, tributes,
          or anywhre for us POTA nerds (ie, star wars geeks) to hang out
          together for a weekend or something? has anyone ever thought of
          putting one together?

          POTAfest 06?   

          ill help arrange it.


          Let's all meet in Page, Arizona on Sunday, May 21st (the 39th Anniversary of the first day of filming there on PLANET in 1967).  We could all take a tour boat ride on Lake Powell and see the spot where the spaceship sank.

          Yeah, that would be nice, wouldn't it?

          -- Rory
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          Group: pota Message: 36665 From: James Date: 4/9/2006
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          As promised, new DVD covers based on the Original One-Sheets and Legacy Box set covers are being developed. Here is the first one for Planet:

          It can be downloaded at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTADVD.jpg

          I'd like to know what everyone thinks.

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          Group: pota Message: 36666 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/9/2006
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          .html.htmlIn a message dated 4/9/06 10:34:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:


          As promised, new DVD covers based on the Original One-Sheets and Legacy Box set covers are being developed. Here is the first one for Planet:
          It can be downloaded at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTADVD.jpgI'd like to know what everyone thinks.



          I think that's great, but not quite good enough (Sorry, James ;). 

          Three things I'd do further is try to get a sliver more background above the "Somewhere in the Universe..." type (The S is too close to the top edge.  This would mean shrinking the type and the artwork a bit and having more background on the sides and the top.)

          I'd also get rid of the white bar-code box on the back.  Who needs it?  Looks like a great place for a photo to me, don't you think? 

          And finally -- and VERY IMPORTANTLY, I'd put a photo of one of the main characters over that bloody awful artwork of an ape's eye and nose on the bottom of the spine.  (Me, I'd put Taylor in his astronaut outfit from the shot that's on card six of the original Topp's set [properly flipped, of course!], since Dr. Zaius is already on the front cover.

          -- Rory



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          Group: pota Message: 36667 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/9/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] DVD Cover
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            I think that it's fantastic!  Thanks!
             
            Zach   
             
            -------Original Message-------
             
            From: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Date: 04/09/06 09:34:31
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [Planet of the Apes] DVD Cover
             

            As promised, new DVD covers based on the Original One-Sheets and Legacy Box set covers are being developed. Here is the first one for Planet:

            It can be downloaded at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTADVD.jpg

            I'd like to know what everyone thinks.

             
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            Group: pota Message: 36668 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/9/2006
            Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes movie clips and audio b
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            I get nothing when I click on this link!

            Tim

            --- johnw_94020 <johnw_94020@...> wrote:

            >
            http://johnw.freeshell.org/audio/planet_of_the_apes.zip
            >
            > Here it is. These were taken from a web site that is
            > no longer in
            > existance.
            >
            >
            >
            > John
            >
            >
            >
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 36669 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/9/2006
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              I need help indentifying these two pics.....
              I'm pretty sure the first one is Urko not
              Ursus....right?
              and the second one is APJacobs but with who? natalie
              or Kim?
              Thanks,
              Tim

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              Group: pota Message: 36670 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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              Hello,

              This email message is a notification to let you know that
              a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
              group.

              File : /ac_1.jpg
              Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
              Description :

              You can access this file at the URL:
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ac_1.jpg

              To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
              http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

              Regards,

              jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
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              Group: pota Message: 36671 From: JamesA1102 Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Fw: New file uploaded to pota
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              > This email message is a notification to let you know that
              > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of your pota
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              Group: pota Message: 36672 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
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              I think that's natalie

              -----Original Message-----
              From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:30:51 -0700 (PDT)
              Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID

              I need help indentifying these two pics.....
              I'm pretty sure the first one is Urko not
              Ursus....right?
              and the second one is APJacobs but with who? natalie
              or Kim?
              Thanks,
              Tim

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              Group: pota Message: 36673 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
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              I think it is too....it looks more like her than Kim
              but it doesn't look much like Lisa for some
              reason.....anybody else know for sure?

              --- PofTAfan@... wrote:

              > I think that's natalie
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
              > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:30:51 -0700 (PDT)
              > Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
              >
              > I need help indentifying these two pics.....
              > I'm pretty sure the first one is Urko not
              > Ursus....right?
              > and the second one is APJacobs but with who? natalie
              > or Kim?
              > Thanks,
              > Tim
              >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 36674 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
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              In a message dated 4/9/2006 5:22:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
              I think that's natalie
              Yes, I believe the caption for that photo was
              something like, as a producer he was able
              to make a monkey out of his wife.
               
               
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              Group: pota Message: 36675 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
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              In a message dated 4/9/2006 3:31:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:
              I'm pretty sure the first one is Urko not
              Ursus....right?
              Yes
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              Group: pota Message: 36676 From: Beverly A. Thompson Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Absolutely overwhelmed with the beautiful artwork in the files!
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              What a treat to see so many talented members displaying their stunning
              artwork! I do appreciate the beauty of these portraits and caricatures
              of our favorites from the films! Bravo!Beautiful!Thank you ! The Ape
              Lady Beve
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              Group: pota Message: 36677 From: Beverly A. Thompson Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: The Gorilla Guard costume is my favorite,then Dr.Zira's!
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              The Ape Halloween costumes are very nice,I especially like the Gorilla
              Guard costume,then the Dr.Zira one.They are all nice,but must be hard
              to find because they are cloth and were mostly used for Halloween,
              thenprobably thrown away.Iwould think the material would wear out,but
              the ones inthe photos look like new! The Ape Lady Beve
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              Group: pota Message: 36678 From: drhasslein Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Re: POTA events
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              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
              >
              > In a message dated 4/9/06 1:30:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
              > sonyscout@... writes:
              >
              >
              > > my question is this" are there any conventions, gatherings,
              tributes,
              > > or anywhre for us POTA nerds (ie, star wars geeks) to hang out
              > > together for a weekend or something? has anyone ever thought of
              > > putting one together?
              > >
              > > POTAfest 06?
              > >
              > > ill help arrange it.
              > >
              >
              > Let's all meet in Page, Arizona on Sunday, May 21st (the 39th
              Anniversary of
              > the first day of filming there on PLANET in 1967). We could all
              take a tour
              > boat ride on Lake Powell and see the spot where the spaceship sank.
              >
              > Yeah, that would be nice, wouldn't it?
              >
              > -- Rory
              >
              Better yet, let's go to Century City, Avenue of the Stars, pass out
              multicolored jumpsuits and reenact the night of the fires.
              THE BIRTH(place)OF THE PLANET OF THE APES!!!!
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              Group: pota Message: 36679 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/9/2006
              Subject: Re: Absolutely overwhelmed with the beautiful artwork in the files!
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              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Beverly A. Thompson" <bevnlarryt@...>
              wrote:
              >
              > What a treat to see so many talented members displaying their
              stunning
              > artwork! I do appreciate the beauty of these portraits and
              caricatures
              > of our favorites from the films! Bravo!Beautiful!Thank you ! The Ape
              > Lady Beve
              >
              You're welcome...Thank you for the nice comments...

              G
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              Group: pota Message: 36680 From: myogaeba Date: 4/10/2006
              Subject: pota movies
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              Hi all,

              i'am new here,i'am glad to be with you ...

              Do you know if producers out there plan to do another movie about
              planet of the apes in years to come ?

              Thanks.
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              Group: pota Message: 36681 From: ape_mom Date: 4/10/2006
              Subject: Cheeta has another birthday!
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              Hi all. Yesterday, April 9, 2006, was Cheeta's birthday. He is now
              74! You can send belated birthday greetings to him at this address:
              Cheeta 1033 Francis Dr Palm Springs, Calif. 92262.


              ... http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
              AID=/20060409/NEWS01/604090301/1006
              ... http://www.cheetathechimp.org/
              ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheeta
              ... http://www.palmsprings.com/stars/cheeta.html"
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              Group: pota Message: 36682 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/10/2006
              Subject: Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
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              .html.htmlIn a message dated 4/10/06 8:06:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:


              Hi all.  Yesterday, April 9, 2006, was Cheeta's birthday.  He is now
              74!  You can send belated birthday greetings to him at this address: 
              Cheeta  1033 Francis Dr Palm Springs,  Calif.  92262.


              Wow!  That is amazing, a chimpanzee living this long!  I hope they're saving his sperm!

              -- Rory
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              Group: pota Message: 36683 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/10/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
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                You can say that again!  I didn't know that chimps could live this long!  What is
                Cheetah's age in human years?
                 
                Zach    
                 
                -------Original Message-------
                 
                From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Date: 04/10/06 07:40:41
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
                 
                In a message dated 4/10/06 8:06:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:


                Hi all.  Yesterday, April 9, 2006, was Cheeta's birthday.  He is now
                74!  You can send belated birthday greetings to him at this address: 
                Cheeta  1033 Francis Dr Palm Springs,  Calif.  92262.


                Wow!  That is amazing, a chimpanzee living this long!  I hope they're saving his sperm!

                -- Rory
                 
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                Group: pota Message: 36684 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/10/2006
                Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The Gorilla Guard costume is my favorite,t
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                Hey Beve! THose are my costumes in that folder.....
                they are all froom 1974 except the Gorilla Guard
                costume which was made in the 90's. The older ones are
                hard to find in excellent condition because for the
                most art they were worn by kids running around and
                slobbering candy all over them! but I have found a few
                that look hardly used at all as are the Zira and
                Cornelius ones.....
                there are many more pics of collectables at

                http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/planetoftheapescollecting/

                Tim

                --- "Beverly A. Thompson" <bevnlarryt@...>
                wrote:

                > The Ape Halloween costumes are very nice,I
                > especially like the Gorilla
                > Guard costume,then the Dr.Zira one.They are all
                > nice,but must be hard
                > to find because they are cloth and were mostly used
                > for Halloween,
                > thenprobably thrown away.Iwould think the material
                > would wear out,but
                > the ones inthe photos look like new! The Ape Lady
                > Beve
                >
                >
                >
                >


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                Group: pota Message: 36685 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/10/2006
                Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes ID
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                Haha......Thanks T!!

                --- LordTZer0@... wrote:

                >
                > In a message dated 4/9/2006 5:22:28 P.M. Central
                > Daylight Time,
                > PofTAfan@... writes:
                >
                > I think that's natalie
                >
                >
                >
                > Yes, I believe the caption for that photo was
                > something like, as a producer he was able
                > to make a monkey out of his wife.
                >
                >
                >


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                Group: pota Message: 36686 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/10/2006
                Subject: Re: [simianchat] Re: Cheetah
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                  Here is Cheetah in his retirement! Hope I have it this
                  good at 75!!

                  Tim

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                  Group: pota Message: 36687 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] pota movies
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                  In a message dated 4/10/2006 5:18:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, myogaeba@... writes:
                  Do you know if producers out there plan to do another movie about
                  planet of the apes in years to come ?
                   
                  They said next time they do one they'll take their time.
                  They didn't want to just crank out sequels.  I don't know
                  what they meant by that.  They pussyfoot around and
                  BS' ed for nearly ten years on the last one.  Then when
                  they finally did greenlight it they rushed it out like fools.
                   
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                  Group: pota Message: 36688 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
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                  In a message dated 4/10/2006 8:37:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Zasco1957@... writes:
                  Cheetah's age in human years?
                  74
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                  Group: pota Message: 36689 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Cheeta has another birthday!
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                  In a message dated 4/10/2006 7:06:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:
                  Hi all.  Yesterday, April 9, 2006, was Cheeta's birthday.  He is now 74! 
                   
                  Wow!  I thought chimps only lived into their 50's.
                  I thought Cheeta was a heavy smoker.  I recall
                  Maureen O'Hara saying she couldn't stand him
                  of Johnny Weismuller.  Both were dirty monkeys.
                   
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                  Group: pota Message: 36690 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/10/2006
                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
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                    Wow!  Thanks!
                     
                    Zach   
                     
                    -------Original Message-------
                     
                    From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: 04/10/06 10:24:55
                    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Cheeta has another birthday!
                     
                    In a message dated 4/10/2006 8:37:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Zasco1957@... writes:
                    Cheetah's age in human years?
                    74
                     
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                    Group: pota Message: 36691 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/10/2006
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Cheeta has another birthday!
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                    > Wow! I thought chimps only lived into their 50's.
                    > I thought Cheeta was a heavy smoker. I recall
                    > Maureen O'Hara saying she couldn't stand him
                    > of Johnny Weismuller. Both were dirty monkeys.

                    Odd, since it was Maureen O'Sullivan who starred with them....

                    Hunter
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                    Group: pota Message: 36692 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: [simianchat] Re: Cheetah
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                    In a message dated 4/10/2006 10:24:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:
                    Here is Cheetah in his retirement! Hope I have it this
                    good at 75!!
                     
                    Is that the retirement home for animal actors?
                     
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                    Group: pota Message: 36694 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/10/2006
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Cheeta has another birthday!
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                    In a message dated 4/10/2006 10:42:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:
                    Odd, since it was Maureen O'Sullivan who starred with them....
                     
                    That's who I meant. 
                    I should check Maureen O'
                    I mean O' on the ol' IMDB
                    before I post.
                     
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                    Group: pota Message: 36695 From: bevnlarryt@wmconnect.com Date: 4/10/2006
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The Gorilla Guard costume is my favorite,t
                    .html
                    .htmlYour costume collection is the best,IMO!!!  i AM IN AWE OF THE OTHER COLLECTIBLES SHOWN INTHE PHOTO AND FILES SECTION!!! I started too late in collecting,will be satisfied just  to have the films,anyway,lol!!!  the Ape Lady Beve<.html
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                    Group: pota Message: 36696 From: ron kenner Date: 4/10/2006
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] membership question
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                    hi-
                    i will have limited net access over the enxt 3 weeks and would like to switch to "daily digest."
                    how do i do this?
                    thanks
                    rob/ron

                    bevnlarryt@... wrote:
                    Your costume collection is the best,IMO!!!  i AM IN AWE OF THE OTHER COLLECTIBLES SHOWN INTHE PHOTO AND FILES SECTION!!! I started too late in collecting,will be satisfied just  to have the films,anyway,lol!!!  the Ape Lady Beve



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                    Group: pota Message: 36697 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 4/10/2006
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: [simianchat] Re: Cheetah
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                    .html Looks like retirement is good for Cheetah. Thanks for sharing the pics. Elaine<.html
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                    Group: pota Message: 36698 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/10/2006
                    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] membership question
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                    Hi Rob/Ron,

                    Go to the "Home Page"...Click on "Edit Membership"...Scroll down
                    to "Message Delivery"...Click on "Daily Digest"...Scroll down to the
                    bottom and click on "Save Changes"...

                    G

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                    > how do i do this?
                    > thanks
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                    >
                    > bevnlarryt@... wrote:
                    > Your costume collection is the best,IMO!!! i AM IN AWE OF THE
                    OTHER COLLECTIBLES SHOWN INTHE PHOTO AND FILES SECTION!!! I started
                    too late in collecting,will be satisfied just to have the
                    films,anyway,lol!!! the Ape Lady Beve
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                    Group: pota Message: 36699 From: Chris Lawless Date: 4/11/2006
                    Subject: Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
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                    I wrote:

                    >>From the first time I saw the film fully on CBS, I remember seeing a
                    scene where two of the mutants were walking through the city carrying out
                    Caspay's edict and saying "Adults to the cathedral, children indoors" a
                    few times. Aside from the fact that I was only 7 or 8 at the time and
                    later out figured out that I probably imagined it, the scene really
                    wouldn't make sense anyway because it was supposed to be a "public
                    thought projection". <<

                    It occurred to me after I sent this that I specifically remember Victor
                    Buono's character going around and saying this. Still, I'm certain I
                    imagined the whole thing.


                    "Zach Scott" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

                    >>WOW! Now that's a scene that I must have overlooked (the gorillas
                    gasping
                    when they saw the nuked buried ruins of NYC)... <<

                    Well they certainly had an astonished look on their face, so I'm sure my
                    9 year old mind just added the gasp in afterwards when I was thinking
                    about what I had seen the previous night.

                    >>and Chris, it seems as if I may have written you once before regarding
                    the deleted scenes from Beneath..a few years ago <<

                    Were you the person that was writing a paper about the time travel
                    concept in the series? Your name sounds familiar to me as well- I'm
                    trying to remember now when we were in touch.


                    "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@...> wrote:

                    >>I know there was a scene filmed where the Soldier Ape fires his gun
                    through the bar window of the jail cell. I actually have a movie
                    clip of that on my computer. I also have heard that there was more
                    scenes filemd with Zaius and Ursus in the steam bath but were cut to
                    what we have now. <<

                    Both these- plus a few other things not in the final cut- were seen in
                    the BENEATH NATO film, which i believe is available in the Files section.


                    Chris L.
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                    Group: pota Message: 36700 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/11/2006
                    Subject: Rare Apes photos
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                    Attachments :
                      There's a guy on ebay selling 8 x 10 photos....He must
                      have found a box of negatives somewhere because I have
                      never seen about 80% of these.....He's selling them
                      for 10 bucks each which is too much but if you have
                      time click through his list...there's some cool ones
                      in there.....not sure if this link will work.....his
                      name on ebay is "wolfs_photos" I beleive...

                      http://search.ebay.com/planet-of-the-apes_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfrtsZ0QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsassZwolfsQ5fphotos

                      Here's a few I thought were interesting.....

                      The ones with Linda and James are odd...looks like
                      maybe they were going to do some superimposing of
                      their faces or something.....and the ladder too??
                      Check them out.......
                      I can post more that I drug off ebay if anybody
                      wants....
                      Tim

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                      Group: pota Message: 36701 From: James Date: 4/11/2006
                      Subject: Re: Rare Apes photos
                      .html
                      Thanks Tim. These have been added to the Misc. album in the Photos
                      section:
                      http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos

                      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > There's a guy on ebay selling 8 x 10 photos....He must
                      > have found a box of negatives somewhere because I have
                      > never seen about 80% of these.....He's selling them
                      > for 10 bucks each which is too much but if you have
                      > time click through his list...there's some cool ones
                      > in there.....not sure if this link will work.....his
                      > name on ebay is "wolfs_photos" I beleive...
                      >
                      > http://search.ebay.com/planet-of-the-
                      apes_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1
                      QQfromZR10QQfrtsZ0QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsassZ
                      wolfsQ5fphotos
                      >
                      > Here's a few I thought were interesting.....
                      >
                      > The ones with Linda and James are odd...looks like
                      > maybe they were going to do some superimposing of
                      > their faces or something.....and the ladder too??
                      > Check them out.......
                      > I can post more that I drug off ebay if anybody
                      > wants....
                      > Tim
                      >
                      >
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                      Group: pota Message: 36702 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/11/2006
                      Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
                      .html
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                      I already bought a couple of them already, especially the one with Zira, Dr. Galen and the assistant to Dr. Galen.
                       
                      Kevin
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                      Group: pota Message: 36703 From: Chris Lawless Date: 4/12/2006
                      Subject: photo opportunities
                      .html
                      This image seem superimposed:

                      http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-111B-8X10-PHOTO_W0QQitemZ760863718
                      0QQcategoryZ18827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


                      Who's this guy:

                      http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-109B-8X10-PHOTO_W0QQitemZ760863677
                      3QQcategoryZ18827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

                      Looks like a mutant skull cap from BATTLE.


                      The 40 Year Old Virgin:

                      http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-85-8X10-PHOTO_W0QQitemZ7608631791Q
                      QcategoryZ18827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


                      Suave 40 Year Old Virgin:

                      http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-90-8X10-PHOTO_W0QQitemZ7608632814Q
                      QcategoryZ18827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

                      Can't figure out what that background is supposed to be though.


                      Chris L.
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                      Group: pota Message: 36704 From: Mark Date: 4/12/2006
                      Subject: Re: photo opportunities
                      .html
                      Sal Mineo.

                      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

                      > Who's this guy:

                      > http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-109B-8X10-PHOTO_W0QQitemZ760863677
                      > 3QQcategoryZ18827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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                      Group: pota Message: 36705 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/12/2006
                      Subject: Re: Rare Apes photos
                      .html
                      Those pics are AWESOME! Any more where they came from? I love the
                      Escape on the beach pic.Linda seems to have knobbly knees in the shot
                      next to the ladder! I think some of the poses are to check that Linda
                      could do them without a boob popping out.The sadistic swines.John,
                      Scrolls.
                      >
                      >
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                      Group: pota Message: 36706 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/12/2006
                      Subject: Marvel UK issue 78
                      .html
                      Issue 78 is now available to download from Hunter's site. Once again the brains are cover featured, but have they escaped from their jars as the next step in their diabolical plan for world domination or were their jars somehow destroyed by the forces of good that are trying to thwart them? Read the story inside and find out!
                       
                      I'm on vacation next week, so there will be no announcement for the next issue (but it is done and will be posted on schedule). You're all on your own to make your way to Hunter's site at this time next week for issue 79.
                       
                       
                      Greg
                       
                       
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                      Group: pota Message: 36707 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                      Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
                      .html
                      I didn't see that one! can you scan it?

                      Tim

                      --- PofTAfan@... wrote:

                      > I already bought a couple of them already,
                      > especially the one with Zira, Dr.
                      > Galen and the assistant to Dr. Galen.
                      >
                      > Kevin
                      >


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                      Group: pota Message: 36708 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                      Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: photo opportunities
                      .html
                      i thought so too at first but it doesn't really look
                      like him.....

                      Tim

                      --- Mark <rkid67@...> wrote:

                      > Sal Mineo.
                      >
                      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless
                      > <lawford42@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > > Who's this guy:
                      >
                      > >
                      >
                      http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-109B-8X10-PHOTO_W0QQitemZ760863677
                      > > 3QQcategoryZ18827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >


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                      Group: pota Message: 36709 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                      Subject: More rare photos
                      .html
                      Attachments :
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                        Group: pota Message: 36710 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                        Subject: Even more rare photos
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                        Attachments :
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                          Group: pota Message: 36711 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                          Subject: Still even more rare photos
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                            Group: pota Message: 36712 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/12/2006
                            Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
                            .html
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                            I haven't received them yet but I will scan the one with Zira, Cornelius and two gorilla soldiers when Taylor found Landon among the group of humans. When the the photos of Zira and Dr. Galen and the assistant and Zira standing next to Julius come in i'll scan all of them for the group. 
                             
                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
                            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
                            Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos

                            I didn't see that one! can you scan it?
                            
                            Tim
                            
                            --- PofTAfan@... wrote:
                            
                            
                            > I already bought a couple of them already, > especially the one with Zira, Dr. > Galen and the assistant to Dr. Galen. > > Kevin >
                            __________________________________________________
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                            Group: pota Message: 36713 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
                            Subject: Planet of the Apes Photos
                            .html
                            The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry Ohlinger
                            (http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St. (between 7th & 8th)
                            New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 • Fax: (212) 989-1660 ).
                            He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any poster, photo, lobby
                            card, etc for any film you want. The store is a mess with a small
                            counter and a large inventory behind it. Before you go in you
                            really need to know what it is you are looking for. His staff will
                            bring out binder after binder to look at.

                            He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in NY, the Famous
                            Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic convention that were in NY
                            at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back in the 70's.

                            I purchased about 100 different photos, negative and slide from him
                            over the years on the apes and I use to sell them on E-bay a few
                            years ago. Some of the images are on my site, that I use to store
                            photo on for E-bay. Most of the photos were from Beneath and were
                            behind the scenes stuff.

                            Over the years I have gone back and purchased more shots but there
                            really in not much left in his ape collection. The "good stuff" is
                            mostly gone.

                            The photos on my web site will have my screen name on them. I will
                            have to find my scans and post them without the name. Give me a
                            little bit and I will get this done.
                            <.html
                            Group: pota Message: 36714 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
                            Subject: Planet of the Apes Photos
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                            Group: pota Message: 36715 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                            Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
                            .html
                            Thanks Leroy....do you know if he had any special
                            connection to the studios to get a hold of all this
                            rare stuff? How did he get his hands on them? am
                            very interested in behind the scenes pics...!

                            Tim

                            --- leroymcconnell <leroymcconnell@...> wrote:

                            > The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry
                            > Ohlinger
                            > (http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St.
                            > (between 7th & 8th)
                            > New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 • Fax:
                            > (212) 989-1660 ).
                            > He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any
                            > poster, photo, lobby
                            > card, etc for any film you want. The store is a
                            > mess with a small
                            > counter and a large inventory behind it. Before you
                            > go in you
                            > really need to know what it is you are looking for.
                            > His staff will
                            > bring out binder after binder to look at.
                            >
                            > He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in NY,
                            > the Famous
                            > Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic convention
                            > that were in NY
                            > at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back in
                            > the 70's.
                            >
                            > I purchased about 100 different photos, negative and
                            > slide from him
                            > over the years on the apes and I use to sell them on
                            > E-bay a few
                            > years ago. Some of the images are on my site, that
                            > I use to store
                            > photo on for E-bay. Most of the photos were from
                            > Beneath and were
                            > behind the scenes stuff.
                            >
                            > Over the years I have gone back and purchased more
                            > shots but there
                            > really in not much left in his ape collection. The
                            > "good stuff" is
                            > mostly gone.
                            >
                            > The photos on my web site will have my screen name
                            > on them. I will
                            > have to find my scans and post them without the
                            > name. Give me a
                            > little bit and I will get this done.
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >


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                            Group: pota Message: 36716 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                            Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
                            .html
                            Cool....you don't see many pics from the hospital
                            scene.....I wonder who played the assisstant.....where
                            is she?

                            --- PofTAfan@... wrote:

                            > I haven't received them yet but I will scan the one
                            > with Zira, Cornelius and two gorilla soldiers when
                            > Taylor found Landon among the group of humans. When
                            > the the photos of Zira and Dr. Galen and the
                            > assistant and Zira standing next to Julius come in
                            > i'll scan all of them for the group.
                            >
                            > -----Original Message-----
                            > From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
                            > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
                            > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Rare Apes photos
                            >
                            >
                            > I didn't see that one! can you scan it?
                            >
                            > Tim
                            >
                            > --- PofTAfan@... wrote:
                            >
                            > > I already bought a couple of them already,
                            > > especially the one with Zira, Dr.
                            > > Galen and the assistant to Dr. Galen.
                            > >
                            > > Kevin
                            > >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            <.html
                            Group: pota Message: 36717 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/12/2006
                            Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
                            .html
                            Attachments :
                              These are great! amd we were just talking about this
                              scene on one of the groups...was it this one? somebody
                              said they rmembered this scene!

                              Tim



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                              Group: pota Message: 36718 From: apecalypsenow Date: 4/12/2006
                              Subject: Pota Phenomenon
                              .html
                              Hey,

                              I was wondering:

                              When did the POTA phenomenon vanish back in its heydays? 1975 or
                              1976? Was the CARTOON technically a "success"? I know that both the
                              TV series and the cartoon series managed to get good ratings in
                              America, but not exceptional ones, and that's why they were
                              cancelled.
                              In UK, the TV series was a smash hit.

                              Then:

                              How is the ULTIMATE POTA collection selling in U.S.A right now? Is a
                              best-seller?
                              I'm wondering if the "casual buyers" truly grasped the REAL nature
                              of *THIS* specific DVD EDITION of BATTLE! It's the best presentation
                              of a still-previously-great sequel: I always loved BATTLE, it takes
                              a special place in my heart.
                              I see it like a great climax for the 'CAESAR TRILOGY', within the
                              economy of the five movies arc.

                              As footnote, I wanna add my two cents: in my view, the FIVE MOVIES
                              can be considered as a SAGA *ONLY* from CAESAR's perspective. The
                              first TWO movies are a tragic account of the Planet of the Apes I
                              and also depict the events which led Cornelius and Zira to escape
                              from Earth ----> Thus, CAESAR!
                              The last three depict the personal story of Caesar, and the how his
                              birth PREVENTED the "generation" of the Planet of the Apes I --- now
                              replaced by a new, peaceful "version".
                              I see a FRAME, a CIRCLE, a PARABLE, going from the FIRST movie to
                              the FIFTH. So I don't fully "get" all the criticism behind those who
                              don't consider the SAGA as such.
                              Even if it wasn't PLANNED as such, it still works. Marvellous!

                              T.C.
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                              Group: pota Message: 36719 From: Eric McConnell Date: 4/12/2006
                              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
                              .html
                              Tim,

                              Eric here, Leroy is my cat who can't type yet. I just
                              use his name, mine was taken.

                              As a kid I used to go to all the Sci Fi, Star Trek and
                              Comic convention in NYC. There was a dealer there who
                              sold movie posters and such. He had a tin of slides
                              and negatives that were not labeled except for "Ape
                              Photos" I bought a bunch of them and they sat in my
                              room for 20 years.

                              Going through my stuff a few years ago I developed a
                              few of the images and put them on E-bay. The first
                              time I put them up some of the photos went for $100
                              each.

                              He still has a store in NYC and I stopped in after my
                              first batch of E-bay stuff. He had some negatives and
                              slides left but most of the good stuff was gone. I
                              went through everything he had and pulled what I
                              thought would be of interest. Most of the stuff he
                              has left is what he put up on E-bay.

                              I have about 100 negative and slides and one of my
                              customers on E-bay said they were from the "??
                              collection" He knew who the photographer was. But I
                              don't remember who he said.

                              Some of the guys from Apemania purchased some of the
                              photos from me, they may know the origin of the
                              photos.

                              I will try to post the cleaned up images soon.

                              Thanks for the e-mail.

                              Eric



                              --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

                              > Thanks Leroy....do you know if he had any special
                              > connection to the studios to get a hold of all this
                              > rare stuff? How did he get his hands on them? am
                              > very interested in behind the scenes pics...!
                              >
                              > Tim
                              >
                              > --- leroymcconnell <leroymcconnell@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > > The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry
                              > > Ohlinger
                              > > (http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St.
                              > > (between 7th & 8th)
                              > > New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 • Fax:
                              > > (212) 989-1660 ).
                              > > He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any
                              > > poster, photo, lobby
                              > > card, etc for any film you want. The store is a
                              > > mess with a small
                              > > counter and a large inventory behind it. Before
                              > you
                              > > go in you
                              > > really need to know what it is you are looking
                              > for.
                              > > His staff will
                              > > bring out binder after binder to look at.
                              > >
                              > > He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in NY,
                              > > the Famous
                              > > Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic
                              > convention
                              > > that were in NY
                              > > at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back in
                              > > the 70's.
                              > >
                              > > I purchased about 100 different photos, negative
                              > and
                              > > slide from him
                              > > over the years on the apes and I use to sell them
                              > on
                              > > E-bay a few
                              > > years ago. Some of the images are on my site,
                              > that
                              > > I use to store
                              > > photo on for E-bay. Most of the photos were from
                              > > Beneath and were
                              > > behind the scenes stuff.
                              > >
                              > > Over the years I have gone back and purchased more
                              > > shots but there
                              > > really in not much left in his ape collection.
                              > The
                              > > "good stuff" is
                              > > mostly gone.
                              > >
                              > > The photos on my web site will have my screen name
                              > > on them. I will
                              > > have to find my scans and post them without the
                              > > name. Give me a
                              > > little bit and I will get this done.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                              Group: pota Message: 36720 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/12/2006
                              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
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                                 Hi again, Chris.
                                 
                                No sir, I wasn't writing a paper or anything regarding time travel in the series, but I was just curious about the third ship, where Milo came in the story, and certain deleted scenes in BENEATH.  This would have been either in 2003 or early 2004.
                                 
                                Speaking of the BENEATH NATO film, I need to check that out.
                                 
                                Thanks.
                                 
                                Zach  
                                 
                                -------Original Message-------
                                 
                                From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                                Date: 04/11/06 01:37:22
                                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: BENEATH deleted scenes
                                 
                                I wrote:
                                 
                                >>From the first time I saw the film fully on CBS, I remember seeing a
                                scene where two of the mutants were walking through the city carrying out
                                Caspay's edict and saying "Adults to the cathedral, children indoors" a
                                few times. Aside from the fact that I was only 7 or 8 at the time and
                                later out figured out that I probably imagined it, the scene really
                                wouldn't make sense anyway because it was supposed to be a "public
                                thought projection". <<
                                 
                                It occurred to me after I sent this that I specifically remember Victor
                                Buono's character going around and saying this. Still, I'm certain I
                                imagined the whole thing.
                                 
                                 
                                "Zach Scott" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
                                 
                                >>WOW!  Now that's a scene that I must have overlooked (the gorillas
                                gasping
                                when they saw the nuked buried ruins of NYC)... <<
                                 
                                Well they certainly had an astonished look on their face, so I'm sure my
                                9 year old mind just added the gasp in afterwards when I was thinking
                                about what I had seen the previous night.
                                 
                                >>and Chris, it seems as if I may have written you once before regarding
                                the deleted scenes from Beneath..a few years ago <<
                                 
                                Were you the person that was writing a paper about the time travel
                                concept in the series? Your name sounds familiar to me as well- I'm
                                trying to remember now when we were in touch.
                                 
                                 
                                "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@...> wrote:
                                 
                                >>I know there was a scene filmed where the Soldier Ape fires his gun
                                through the bar window of the jail cell. I actually have a movie
                                clip of that on my computer. I also have heard that there was more
                                scenes filemd with Zaius and Ursus in the steam bath but were cut to
                                what we have now. <<
                                 
                                Both these- plus a few other things not in the final cut- were seen in
                                the BENEATH NATO film, which i believe is available in the Files section.
                                 
                                 
                                Chris L.
                                 
                                 
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                                Group: pota Message: 36721 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/12/2006
                                Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                Leroy,

                                I, for one, would be very interested in whatever you can
                                post...Especially from BTPOTA, which is my fav of the Apes films...

                                G

                                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leroymcconnell" <leroymcconnell@...>
                                wrote:
                                >
                                > The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry Ohlinger
                                > (http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St. (between 7th & 8th)
                                > New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 • Fax: (212) 989-
                                1660 ).
                                > He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any poster, photo, lobby
                                > card, etc for any film you want. The store is a mess with a small
                                > counter and a large inventory behind it. Before you go in you
                                > really need to know what it is you are looking for. His staff will
                                > bring out binder after binder to look at.
                                >
                                > He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in NY, the Famous
                                > Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic convention that were in
                                NY
                                > at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back in the 70's.
                                >
                                > I purchased about 100 different photos, negative and slide from him
                                > over the years on the apes and I use to sell them on E-bay a few
                                > years ago. Some of the images are on my site, that I use to store
                                > photo on for E-bay. Most of the photos were from Beneath and were
                                > behind the scenes stuff.
                                >
                                > Over the years I have gone back and purchased more shots but there
                                > really in not much left in his ape collection. The "good stuff" is
                                > mostly gone.
                                >
                                > The photos on my web site will have my screen name on them. I will
                                > have to find my scans and post them without the name. Give me a
                                > little bit and I will get this done.
                                >
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                                Group: pota Message: 36722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/12/2006
                                Subject: Re: Pota Phenomenon
                                .html
                                .html.htmlIn a message dated 4/12/06 5:49:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, apecalypsenow@... writes:


                                I was wondering:

                                When did the POTA phenomenon vanish back in its heydays? 1975 or
                                1976? Was the CARTOON technically a "success"? I know that both the
                                TV series and the cartoon series managed to get good ratings in
                                America, but not exceptional ones, and that's why they were
                                cancelled.
                                In UK, the TV series was a smash hit.


                                The TV show wasn't big in the ratings at all.  My memory is that it was like 47th in the ratings or something.  Only kids were watching.  CBS should have tried moving the show to another night, but the attitude from the network was "let it die."

                                I was surprised that they made a cartoon series the next year.  It only ran on Saturday mornings.  It wasn't a huge hit, but it did OK, but not well enough to bring it back for another year, which was a rare thing anyway with Saturday morning shows.

                                The Marvel comic kept POTA alive for a little longer, but by 1976 it ended (as I recall, I could be wrong).

                                By the time STAR WARS became a phenomenon in 1977, POTA was a not so distant memory that quickly faded.  Hardly anyone cared much about APES in the late seventies and during most of the eighties.  Still, the movies were shown regularly on TV and a lot of kids who never saw them in the theatre were turned on to them.

                                They were released on video cassette, but in the early years of video prerecorded movies were expensive and I doubt the APES movies were huge sellers.

                                In the nineties APES nostalgia started to grow and the years between 1998 and 2001 were the heyday of that and eventually saw the making of the Tim Burton film, which unfortunately was an artistic disaster, though it made Fox lots of money.

                                -- Rory
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                                Group: pota Message: 36723 From: Zach Scott Date: 4/12/2006
                                Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                  And speaking of BENEATH, I loved the pictures of who posted them...but are there any of the Ape Army going through the subway, the 'Queensboro Plaza' station where Brent discovered that he was back on Earth?  And how they were climbing the ladder to get into the tunnel, to eventually go by the Library...the Stock Exchange and Radio City en route to the Cathedral?
                                   
                                  Zach 
                                   
                                  -------Original Message-------
                                   
                                  From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                                  Date: 04/12/06 18:59:09
                                  To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Planet of the Apes Photos
                                   
                                  Leroy,
                                   
                                  I, for one, would be very interested in whatever you can
                                  post...Especially from BTPOTA, which is my fav of the Apes films...
                                   
                                  G
                                   
                                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leroymcconnell" <leroymcconnell@...>
                                  wrote:
                                  >
                                  > The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry Ohlinger
                                  > ( http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St. (between 7th & 8th)
                                  > New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 • Fax: (212) 989-
                                  1660 ).
                                  > He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any poster, photo, lobby
                                  > card, etc for any film you want.  The store is a mess with a small
                                  > counter and a large inventory behind it.  Before you go in you
                                  > really need to know what it is you are looking for.  His staff will
                                  > bring out binder after binder to look at.
                                  >
                                  > He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in NY, the Famous
                                  > Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic convention that were in
                                  NY
                                  > at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back in the 70's.
                                  >
                                  > I purchased about 100 different photos, negative and slide from him
                                  > over the years on the apes and I use to sell them on E-bay a few
                                  > years ago.  Some of the images are on my site, that I use to store
                                  > photo on for E-bay. Most of the photos were from Beneath and were
                                  > behind the scenes stuff.
                                  >
                                  > Over the years I have gone back and purchased more shots but there
                                  > really in not much left in his ape collection.  The "good stuff" is
                                  > mostly gone.
                                  >
                                  > The photos on my web site will have my screen name on them.  I will
                                  > have to find my scans and post them without the name.  Give me a
                                  > little bit and I will get this done.
                                  >
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36724 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
                                  Subject: Still More POTA Photos
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36725 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
                                  Subject: More POTA Photos
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                                  Here are some more links to the photos.

                                  I have a few files on the photos. The original negative and slides
                                  I have are old and may not have been well cared for over the years.
                                  I had a friend who has a photo studio scan and clean up some of the
                                  images. At the moment I can't find that file, but I though you
                                  would all like to see the images anyways.

                                  Besides these photos I do have a lot more. But at the moment I don't
                                  know where they are. I use to collect magazines, comics, POTA,
                                  Circus, Carnival, Baseball Cards, LP, 45s and CD (I use to manage a
                                  record store in NJ) I have so much "crap" I don't know where
                                  anything is.

                                  The photos are not lost just misplaced and they are well protected.

                                  Most of the other photos are from Beneath and there are some cool
                                  shots of the wall of fire with the Lawgiver and more make-up stuff

                                  Sorry I don't think I have any photos of the subway or any of the NY
                                  scenes, except for #20 listed below.

                                  In this group there are a few photos of interest,

                                  Number 3 - I have never seen this image anywhere else
                                  Number 10 & 11 from Escape are kind of neat
                                  Number 12, 13, 14 & 15 are of 2 of the three apes appliance I
                                  purchased from the Ackerman Auction in NYC, must have been in the
                                  late 80's. They were listed in the catalog as test makeup for the
                                  first film. The third appliance was of the face Victor Buono pulls
                                  off. I'll get a photo of this up. Just have to take it.
                                  Number 16 is James Gregory getting his makeup on.
                                  Number 18 is a wall of mutant masks. This image got wet somehow
                                  over the years. My friend tried to make it look better, but it's a
                                  mess. There is another image like this in the Russ, Landsman, Gross
                                  book POTA Revisited on page 97.
                                  Number 20 is the photo from Beneath with the kids, you were talking
                                  about on the site a while ago.
                                  Number 23 & 26 - I was watching the Behind the POTA the other day
                                  and noticed this actor is in the same shirt as the photo.
                                  Number 33 - Is a fun shot, not sure when it was taken.

                                  There are some candid shots and also a lot of make-up shots.

                                  Hope you guys like this stuff and I am glad I found a group that
                                  enjoys these films as much as I do.

                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/1.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/2.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/3.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/4.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/5.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/6.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/7.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/8.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/9.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/10.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/11.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/12.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/13.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/14.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/15.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/16.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/17.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/18.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/19.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/20.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/21.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/22.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/23.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/24.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/25.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/26.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/27.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/28.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/29.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/30.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/31.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/32.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/33.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/34.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/35.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/36.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/37.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/38.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/39.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/40.jpg

                                  I have to scan a few more and they will be up later tonight.
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36726 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/12/2006
                                  Subject: Re: Still More POTA Photos
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                                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leroymcconnell" <leroymcconnell@...>
                                  wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Here are some more photos
                                  >
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/40.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/41.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/42.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/43.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/44.jpg
                                  >
                                  > Enjoy
                                  >
                                  I get this when I try to open the photos:

                                  The page cannot be found
                                  The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
                                  changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

                                  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  ----------

                                  Please try the following:

                                  If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it
                                  is spelled correctly.

                                  Open the www.mcconnell-simmons.com home page, and then look for links
                                  to the information you want.
                                  Click the Back button to try another link.
                                  Click Search to look for information on the Internet.



                                  HTTP 404 - File not found
                                  Internet Explorer
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36727 From: hotscheetz Date: 4/12/2006
                                  Subject: Re: More POTA Photos
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                                  I get the same message again:

                                  The page cannot be found
                                  The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
                                  changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

                                  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  ----------

                                  Please try the following:

                                  If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it
                                  is spelled correctly.

                                  Open the www.mcconnell-simmons.com home page, and then look for links
                                  to the information you want.
                                  Click the Back button to try another link.
                                  Click Search to look for information on the Internet.



                                  HTTP 404 - File not found
                                  Internet Explorer


                                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leroymcconnell" <leroymcconnell@...>
                                  wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Here are some more links to the photos.
                                  >
                                  > I have a few files on the photos. The original negative and slides
                                  > I have are old and may not have been well cared for over the years.
                                  > I had a friend who has a photo studio scan and clean up some of the
                                  > images. At the moment I can't find that file, but I though you
                                  > would all like to see the images anyways.
                                  >
                                  > Besides these photos I do have a lot more. But at the moment I
                                  don't
                                  > know where they are. I use to collect magazines, comics, POTA,
                                  > Circus, Carnival, Baseball Cards, LP, 45s and CD (I use to manage a
                                  > record store in NJ) I have so much "crap" I don't know where
                                  > anything is.
                                  >
                                  > The photos are not lost just misplaced and they are well protected.
                                  >
                                  > Most of the other photos are from Beneath and there are some cool
                                  > shots of the wall of fire with the Lawgiver and more make-up stuff
                                  >
                                  > Sorry I don't think I have any photos of the subway or any of the
                                  NY
                                  > scenes, except for #20 listed below.
                                  >
                                  > In this group there are a few photos of interest,
                                  >
                                  > Number 3 - I have never seen this image anywhere else
                                  > Number 10 & 11 from Escape are kind of neat
                                  > Number 12, 13, 14 & 15 are of 2 of the three apes appliance I
                                  > purchased from the Ackerman Auction in NYC, must have been in the
                                  > late 80's. They were listed in the catalog as test makeup for the
                                  > first film. The third appliance was of the face Victor Buono pulls
                                  > off. I'll get a photo of this up. Just have to take it.
                                  > Number 16 is James Gregory getting his makeup on.
                                  > Number 18 is a wall of mutant masks. This image got wet somehow
                                  > over the years. My friend tried to make it look better, but it's a
                                  > mess. There is another image like this in the Russ, Landsman,
                                  Gross
                                  > book POTA Revisited on page 97.
                                  > Number 20 is the photo from Beneath with the kids, you were talking
                                  > about on the site a while ago.
                                  > Number 23 & 26 - I was watching the Behind the POTA the other day
                                  > and noticed this actor is in the same shirt as the photo.
                                  > Number 33 - Is a fun shot, not sure when it was taken.
                                  >
                                  > There are some candid shots and also a lot of make-up shots.
                                  >
                                  > Hope you guys like this stuff and I am glad I found a group that
                                  > enjoys these films as much as I do.
                                  >
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/1.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/2.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/3.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/4.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/5.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/6.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/7.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/8.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/9.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/10.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/11.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/12.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/13.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/14.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/15.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/16.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/17.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/18.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/19.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/20.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/21.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/22.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/23.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/24.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/25.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/26.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/27.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/28.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/29.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/30.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/31.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/32.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/33.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/34.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/35.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/36.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/37.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/38.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/39.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/40.jpg
                                  >
                                  > I have to scan a few more and they will be up later tonight.
                                  >
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36728 From: leroymcconnell Date: 4/12/2006
                                  Subject: Let's try this again - More POTA Photos
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                                  Let's try this again.

                                  For some reason my last message did not include the "photo/1.jpg" as
                                  part of the link.

                                  The web address for the photos are

                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/1.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/2.jpg
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/3.jpg

                                  etc, etc, etc.

                                  There are a total of 44 photos up at the moment. Don't click on the
                                  link, do a cut and past instead. Then you can just change the
                                  number.

                                  Here are some more links to the photos.
                                  >
                                  > I have a few files on the photos. The original negative and
                                  slides
                                  > I have are old and may not have been well cared for over the
                                  years.
                                  > I had a friend who has a photo studio scan and clean up some of
                                  the
                                  > images. At the moment I can't find that file, but I though you
                                  > would all like to see the images anyways.
                                  >
                                  > Besides these photos I do have a lot more. But at the moment I
                                  don't
                                  > know where they are. I use to collect magazines, comics, POTA,
                                  > Circus, Carnival, Baseball Cards, LP, 45s and CD (I use to manage
                                  a
                                  > record store in NJ) I have so much "crap" I don't know where
                                  > anything is.
                                  >
                                  > The photos are not lost just misplaced and they are well protected.
                                  >
                                  > Most of the other photos are from Beneath and there are some cool
                                  > shots of the wall of fire with the Lawgiver and more make-up stuff
                                  >
                                  > Sorry I don't think I have any photos of the subway or any of the
                                  NY
                                  > scenes, except for #20 listed below.
                                  >
                                  > In this group there are a few photos of interest,
                                  >
                                  > Number 3 - I have never seen this image anywhere else
                                  > Number 10 & 11 from Escape are kind of neat
                                  > Number 12, 13, 14 & 15 are of 2 of the three apes appliance I
                                  > purchased from the Ackerman Auction in NYC, must have been in the
                                  > late 80's. They were listed in the catalog as test makeup for the
                                  > first film. The third appliance was of the face Victor Buono
                                  pulls
                                  > off. I'll get a photo of this up. Just have to take it.
                                  > Number 16 is James Gregory getting his makeup on.
                                  > Number 18 is a wall of mutant masks. This image got wet somehow
                                  > over the years. My friend tried to make it look better, but it's
                                  a
                                  > mess. There is another image like this in the Russ, Landsman,
                                  Gross
                                  > book POTA Revisited on page 97.
                                  > Number 20 is the photo from Beneath with the kids, you were
                                  talking
                                  > about on the site a while ago.
                                  > Number 23 & 26 - I was watching the Behind the POTA the other day
                                  > and noticed this actor is in the same shirt as the photo.
                                  > Number 33 - Is a fun shot, not sure when it was taken.
                                  >
                                  > There are some candid shots and also a lot of make-up shots.
                                  >
                                  > Hope you guys like this stuff and I am glad I found a group that
                                  > enjoys these films as much as I do.
                                  >
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/1.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/2.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/3.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/4.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/5.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/6.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/7.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/8.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/9.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/10.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/11.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/12.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/13.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/14.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/15.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/16.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/17.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/18.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/19.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/20.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/21.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/22.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/23.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/24.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/25.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/26.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/27.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/28.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/29.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/30.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/31.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/32.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/33.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/34.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/35.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/36.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/37.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/38.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/39.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota photo/40.jpg
                                  >
                                  > I have to scan a few more and they will be up later tonight.
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36729 From: James Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: Still More POTA Photos
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36730 From: James Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: More POTA Photos
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                                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leroymcconnell" <leroymcconnell@...>
                                  wrote:
                                  >
                                  >>
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/1.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/2.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/3.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/4.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/5.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/6.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/7.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/8.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/9.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/10.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/11.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/12.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/13.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/14.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/15.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/16.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/17.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/18.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/19.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/20.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/21.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/22.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/23.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/24.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/25.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/26.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/27.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/28.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/29.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/30.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/31.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/32.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/33.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/34.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/35.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/36.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/37.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/38.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/39.jpg
                                  > http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/40.jpg
                                  >
                                  > I have to scan a few more and they will be up later tonight.
                                  >
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36731 From: Dave B Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                  Eric,

                                  Thanks for sharing these amazing images. There are some fans that like
                                  to hoard stuff away and gloat but fortunately there are more, like
                                  yourself, who are happy to share for the benefit of all.

                                  I think I may be able to improve the quality of some of these pictures
                                  and, given your permission it's something I'd like to try, as time
                                  allows, over the coming weeks.

                                  Thanks again,
                                  Dave B
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36732 From: Dave B Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: Revolution on the Planet of the Apes #3 (spoiler...
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                                  I'm just in receipt of issue 3 and there is a sense that the writers
                                  and artists are really beginning to hit thier stride. That the
                                  confines of the pages are struggling to cope with the passion and
                                  ideas being squeezed into them. This comic practically sizzles with
                                  energy, it's covers can barely contain the energy trapped between them.

                                  Good things come to those who wait and I've been waiting for something
                                  like this for far too long.

                                  Dave B
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36733 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Power Records
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                                  There's been some updates to the Power Records section of Hunter's site. In addition to a scan of the display riser I recently acquired at the New York Comic-con, I've finally completed the long-gestating CD label/booklet project I'd been working on. Those who want to make their own Power Records CDs can download hi-res files to print disc labels, booklets showing the original album art and even tray cards (there's even a common image for the inner side of the tray card if you want to use a clear tray in your CD jewel case).
                                   
                                  Also now available are hi-res scans of all the album sleeves, including the 3 TV story 'Little LPs' and while I was at it I re-scanned and cleaned-up the 4 comic covers and re-built the comic PDFs and split them into three separate PDFs each for easier downloading.
                                   
                                  My thanks to Michael Whitty and Tim Parati who provided me with scans for the TV Little LPs didn't have. Thanks also to Hunter for hosting these files and for the time he spent yesterday completely reformatting the Power Records page on his site to best show the new additions.
                                   
                                  Whew! Now that I'm done with that, I'm going to DisneyWorld!
                                   
                                   
                                  Greg
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36734 From: apecalypsenow Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: Pota Phenomenon
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                                  Thanks for the answers! At least, someone answered me!


                                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
                                  >
                                  > In a message dated 4/12/06 5:49:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
                                  > apecalypsenow@... writes:
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > > I was wondering:
                                  > >
                                  > > When did the POTA phenomenon vanish back in its heydays? 1975 or
                                  > > 1976? Was the CARTOON technically a "success"? I know that both
                                  the
                                  > > TV series and the cartoon series managed to get good ratings in
                                  > > America, but not exceptional ones, and that's why they were
                                  > > cancelled.
                                  > > In UK, the TV series was a smash hit.
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > The TV show wasn't big in the ratings at all. My memory is that
                                  it was like
                                  > 47th in the ratings or something. Only kids were watching. CBS
                                  should have
                                  > tried moving the show to another night, but the attitude from the
                                  network was
                                  > "let it die."
                                  >
                                  > I was surprised that they made a cartoon series the next year. It
                                  only ran
                                  > on Saturday mornings. It wasn't a huge hit, but it did OK, but
                                  not well enough
                                  > to bring it back for another year, which was a rare thing anyway
                                  with
                                  > Saturday morning shows.
                                  >
                                  > The Marvel comic kept POTA alive for a little longer, but by 1976
                                  it ended
                                  > (as I recall, I could be wrong).
                                  >
                                  > By the time STAR WARS became a phenomenon in 1977, POTA was a not
                                  so distant
                                  > memory that quickly faded. Hardly anyone cared much about APES in
                                  the late
                                  > seventies and during most of the eighties. Still, the movies were
                                  shown
                                  > regularly on TV and a lot of kids who never saw them in the
                                  theatre were turned on to
                                  > them.
                                  >
                                  > They were released on video cassette, but in the early years of
                                  video
                                  > prerecorded movies were expensive and I doubt the APES movies were
                                  huge sellers.
                                  >
                                  > In the nineties APES nostalgia started to grow and the years
                                  between 1998 and
                                  > 2001 were the heyday of that and eventually saw the making of the
                                  Tim Burton
                                  > film, which unfortunately was an artistic disaster, though it made
                                  Fox lots of
                                  > money.
                                  >
                                  > -- Rory
                                  >
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36735 From: bevnlarryt@wmconnect.com Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Pota Phenomenon
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                                  .html I think,in America,we tend to glut ourselves on so much programming  and forget the really great shows.Once they run ,put into syndication ,that is it.When the POTA series aired, the films were still being seen and the public was in the mood ,but not for long. In the States popularity is temporary, whether the subject is a series or event or person . The British tend to admire the concept and artistry of a show or film . They develop an idea, into a show or film,make it into a radio show and have archives of these rograms ,for other generations to listen to. I was listening to some of the old British sitcomprograms on BBC Radio (Channel 4). I will not say we do not remember our programs,but I seriously doubt our new generation has the same interest as they do,in Great Britian.I probably m wrong,but from talking to many young people , their interests changes quickly. As for "casual buyers" investing in these sets, they would have to be seriously interested in the films and series,because this is an expensive set( and rightfully,it should be)! the whole of these films point to man's tragedy and the apes misfortune to be linked to man's innate flaws .There is much sadness in the first,second ,third of these films.The fourth (COTPOTA ) shows the triumph of the apes,lead by Caesar, being man's benevolent ruler! But soon enough the ruler makes mistakes and must learn to compromise. The Ape lady  Beve<.html
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36736 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Power Records
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                                  Greg neglected to mention that he also supplied me with scans of the
                                  SMASH article from 1975, as well as scans of the 1976 UK Fan Club
                                  calendar. You can find them all on my site.

                                  > Whew! Now that I'm done with that, I'm going to DisneyWorld!

                                  A well-deserved trip. I wish I was going with you.

                                  > https://pota.goatley.com

                                  Hunter
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36737 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                  In a message dated 4/12/2006 11:37:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, leroymcconnell@... writes:
                                  Give me a
                                  little bit and I will get this done.
                                   
                                  You da Man Leroy!
                                  It a rare photo indeed
                                  if people in this group
                                  haven't seen it before.
                                   
                                   
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36738 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                  In a message dated 4/12/2006 5:15:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, leroymcconnell@... writes:
                                  Tim,

                                  Eric here, Leroy is my cat who can't type yet.  I just
                                  use his name, mine was taken.
                                   
                                  You  Man Eric!
                                   
                                  LEEEROOOOOYYYY  AaahhJEEEEKIIINS!
                                   
                                   
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36739 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
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                                  In a message dated 4/12/2006 7:46:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
                                  By the time STAR WARS became a phenomenon in 1977, POTA was a not so distant memory that quickly faded. 
                                   
                                  I remember well when Wookies replaced Apes.  Who needs that Bigfoot of an
                                  Ewok?  He can't even talk.  But you're right about the video market.  I can
                                  still remember getting 'Enter The Dragon' for my Birthday. It cost $80 bucks!
                                   
                                  POTA was shown regularly on broadcast TV and then on Sci-fi when cable
                                  became popular.  Why spend a bunch of money for a movie you can tape?
                                   
                                   
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36740 From: Eric McConnell Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
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                                  I remember the TV series being up against Little House
                                  on the Prairie. How long did Little House run for?

                                  Star Wars always seems to get the press and the nod
                                  for the merchandise but POTA was doing it way before.

                                  I skipped school my senior year to see Star Wars at
                                  the Lowes theater in NY and I did not like it then and
                                  I'm still not a fan of it. But I still seem to buy
                                  the movie tickets and purchased the DVD. I have no
                                  idea why.

                                  --- LordTZer0@... wrote:

                                  >
                                  > In a message dated 4/12/2006 7:46:25 P.M. Central
                                  > Daylight Time,
                                  > Haristas@... writes:
                                  >
                                  > By the time STAR WARS became a phenomenon in 1977,
                                  > POTA was a not so distant
                                  > memory that quickly faded.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > I remember well when Wookies replaced Apes. Who
                                  > needs that Bigfoot of an
                                  > Ewok? He can't even talk. But you're right about
                                  > the video market. I can
                                  > still remember getting 'Enter The Dragon' for my
                                  > Birthday. It cost $80 bucks!
                                  >
                                  > POTA was shown regularly on broadcast TV and then on
                                  > Sci-fi when cable
                                  > became popular. Why spend a bunch of money for a
                                  > movie you can tape?
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >


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                                  Group: pota Message: 36741 From: Todd Mount Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Pota Phenomenon
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                                  The talk about SW has to do w/ Lucas' originality in negotiating for the merchandising rights himself...

                                  Eric McConnell <leroymcconnell@...> wrote:
                                  I remember the TV series being up against Little House
                                  on the Prairie.  How long did Little House run for? 

                                  Star Wars always seems to get the press and the nod
                                  for the merchandise but POTA was doing it way before.

                                  I skipped school my senior year to see Star Wars at
                                  the Lowes theater in NY and I did not like it then and
                                  I'm still not a fan of it.  But I still seem to buy
                                  the movie tickets and purchased the DVD.  I have no
                                  idea why.

                                  --- LordTZer0@... wrote:


                                  > In a message dated 4/12/2006 7:46:25 P.M. Central
                                  > Daylight Time, 
                                  > Haristas@... writes:
                                  >
                                  > By the  time STAR WARS became a phenomenon in 1977,
                                  > POTA was a not so distant
                                  > memory  that quickly faded. 
                                  >
                                  >

                                  > I remember well when Wookies replaced Apes.  Who
                                  > needs that Bigfoot of  an
                                  > Ewok?  He can't even talk.  But you're right about
                                  > the video  market.  I can
                                  > still remember getting 'Enter The Dragon' for my
                                  > Birthday. It cost $80  bucks!

                                  > POTA was shown regularly on broadcast TV and then on
                                  > Sci-fi when  cable
                                  > became popular.  Why spend a bunch of money for a
                                  > movie you can  tape?


                                  >


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                                  Group: pota Message: 36742 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                  In a message dated 4/12/2006 12:37:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leroymcconnell@... writes:
                                  The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry Ohlinger
                                  (http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St. (between 7th & 8th)
                                  New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 • Fax: (212) 989-1660 ). 
                                  He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any poster, photo, lobby
                                  card, etc for any film you want.  The store is a mess with a small
                                  counter and a large inventory behind it.  Before you go in you
                                  really need to know what it is you are looking for.  His staff will
                                  bring out binder after binder to look at.

                                  He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in NY, the Famous
                                  Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic convention that were in NY
                                  at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back in the 70's.

                                  You were at those conventions in NY? So was I! In fact, Jerry O was the only licensed dealer at the Famous Monsters Con and I was working for him then (and lost my virginity at that con-but that's another story lol) so if you bought stuff from him I probably waited on you.
                                    Bruce
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36743 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                  Hey eric...not Leroy....

                                  thanks for the info.....Interesting about the
                                  slides.....would love to see the cleaned up photos
                                  when you get the time........!

                                  Tim
                                  --- Eric McConnell <leroymcconnell@...> wrote:

                                  > Tim,
                                  >
                                  > Eric here, Leroy is my cat who can't type yet. I
                                  > just
                                  > use his name, mine was taken.
                                  >
                                  > As a kid I used to go to all the Sci Fi, Star Trek
                                  > and
                                  > Comic convention in NYC. There was a dealer there
                                  > who
                                  > sold movie posters and such. He had a tin of slides
                                  > and negatives that were not labeled except for "Ape
                                  > Photos" I bought a bunch of them and they sat in my
                                  > room for 20 years.
                                  >
                                  > Going through my stuff a few years ago I developed a
                                  > few of the images and put them on E-bay. The first
                                  > time I put them up some of the photos went for $100
                                  > each.
                                  >
                                  > He still has a store in NYC and I stopped in after
                                  > my
                                  > first batch of E-bay stuff. He had some negatives
                                  > and
                                  > slides left but most of the good stuff was gone. I
                                  > went through everything he had and pulled what I
                                  > thought would be of interest. Most of the stuff he
                                  > has left is what he put up on E-bay.
                                  >
                                  > I have about 100 negative and slides and one of my
                                  > customers on E-bay said they were from the "??
                                  > collection" He knew who the photographer was. But I
                                  > don't remember who he said.
                                  >
                                  > Some of the guys from Apemania purchased some of the
                                  > photos from me, they may know the origin of the
                                  > photos.
                                  >
                                  > I will try to post the cleaned up images soon.
                                  >
                                  > Thanks for the e-mail.
                                  >
                                  > Eric
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > Thanks Leroy....do you know if he had any special
                                  > > connection to the studios to get a hold of all
                                  > this
                                  > > rare stuff? How did he get his hands on them? am
                                  > > very interested in behind the scenes pics...!
                                  > >
                                  > > Tim
                                  > >
                                  > > --- leroymcconnell <leroymcconnell@...>
                                  > wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > > The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry
                                  > > > Ohlinger
                                  > > > (http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St.
                                  > > > (between 7th & 8th)
                                  > > > New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 •
                                  > Fax:
                                  > > > (212) 989-1660 ).
                                  > > > He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any
                                  > > > poster, photo, lobby
                                  > > > card, etc for any film you want. The store is a
                                  > > > mess with a small
                                  > > > counter and a large inventory behind it. Before
                                  > > you
                                  > > > go in you
                                  > > > really need to know what it is you are looking
                                  > > for.
                                  > > > His staff will
                                  > > > bring out binder after binder to look at.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in
                                  > NY,
                                  > > > the Famous
                                  > > > Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic
                                  > > convention
                                  > > > that were in NY
                                  > > > at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back
                                  > in
                                  > > > the 70's.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I purchased about 100 different photos, negative
                                  > > and
                                  > > > slide from him
                                  > > > over the years on the apes and I use to sell
                                  > them
                                  > > on
                                  > > > E-bay a few
                                  > > > years ago. Some of the images are on my site,
                                  > > that
                                  > > > I use to store
                                  > > > photo on for E-bay. Most of the photos were from
                                  > > > Beneath and were
                                  > > > behind the scenes stuff.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Over the years I have gone back and purchased
                                  > more
                                  > > > shots but there
                                  > > > really in not much left in his ape collection.
                                  > > The
                                  > > > "good stuff" is
                                  > > > mostly gone.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > The photos on my web site will have my screen
                                  > name
                                  > > > on them. I will
                                  > > > have to find my scans and post them without the
                                  > > > name. Give me a
                                  > > > little bit and I will get this done.
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > >
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36744 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes Photos
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                                  Hey eric...not Leroy....

                                  thanks for the info.....Interesting about the
                                  slides.....would love to see the cleaned up photos
                                  when you get the time........!

                                  Tim
                                  --- Eric McConnell <leroymcconnell@...> wrote:

                                  > Tim,
                                  >
                                  > Eric here, Leroy is my cat who can't type yet. I
                                  > just
                                  > use his name, mine was taken.
                                  >
                                  > As a kid I used to go to all the Sci Fi, Star Trek
                                  > and
                                  > Comic convention in NYC. There was a dealer there
                                  > who
                                  > sold movie posters and such. He had a tin of slides
                                  > and negatives that were not labeled except for "Ape
                                  > Photos" I bought a bunch of them and they sat in my
                                  > room for 20 years.
                                  >
                                  > Going through my stuff a few years ago I developed a
                                  > few of the images and put them on E-bay. The first
                                  > time I put them up some of the photos went for $100
                                  > each.
                                  >
                                  > He still has a store in NYC and I stopped in after
                                  > my
                                  > first batch of E-bay stuff. He had some negatives
                                  > and
                                  > slides left but most of the good stuff was gone. I
                                  > went through everything he had and pulled what I
                                  > thought would be of interest. Most of the stuff he
                                  > has left is what he put up on E-bay.
                                  >
                                  > I have about 100 negative and slides and one of my
                                  > customers on E-bay said they were from the "??
                                  > collection" He knew who the photographer was. But I
                                  > don't remember who he said.
                                  >
                                  > Some of the guys from Apemania purchased some of the
                                  > photos from me, they may know the origin of the
                                  > photos.
                                  >
                                  > I will try to post the cleaned up images soon.
                                  >
                                  > Thanks for the e-mail.
                                  >
                                  > Eric
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > Thanks Leroy....do you know if he had any special
                                  > > connection to the studios to get a hold of all
                                  > this
                                  > > rare stuff? How did he get his hands on them? am
                                  > > very interested in behind the scenes pics...!
                                  > >
                                  > > Tim
                                  > >
                                  > > --- leroymcconnell <leroymcconnell@...>
                                  > wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > > The photos that are up on E-bay are from Jerry
                                  > > > Ohlinger
                                  > > > (http://moviematerials.com/)(253 W. 35th St.
                                  > > > (between 7th & 8th)
                                  > > > New York, NY 10001 - Phone: (212) 989-0869 •
                                  > Fax:
                                  > > > (212) 989-1660 ).
                                  > > > He has a shop in NYC that sells just about any
                                  > > > poster, photo, lobby
                                  > > > card, etc for any film you want. The store is a
                                  > > > mess with a small
                                  > > > counter and a large inventory behind it. Before
                                  > > you
                                  > > > go in you
                                  > > > really need to know what it is you are looking
                                  > > for.
                                  > > > His staff will
                                  > > > bring out binder after binder to look at.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > He use to sell at the Star Trek conventions in
                                  > NY,
                                  > > > the Famous
                                  > > > Monsters conventions and the Marvel comic
                                  > > convention
                                  > > > that were in NY
                                  > > > at the old Commodore Hotel in NY. This was back
                                  > in
                                  > > > the 70's.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I purchased about 100 different photos, negative
                                  > > and
                                  > > > slide from him
                                  > > > over the years on the apes and I use to sell
                                  > them
                                  > > on
                                  > > > E-bay a few
                                  > > > years ago. Some of the images are on my site,
                                  > > that
                                  > > > I use to store
                                  > > > photo on for E-bay. Most of the photos were from
                                  > > > Beneath and were
                                  > > > behind the scenes stuff.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Over the years I have gone back and purchased
                                  > more
                                  > > > shots but there
                                  > > > really in not much left in his ape collection.
                                  > > The
                                  > > > "good stuff" is
                                  > > > mostly gone.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > The photos on my web site will have my screen
                                  > name
                                  > > > on them. I will
                                  > > > have to find my scans and post them without the
                                  > > > name. Give me a
                                  > > > little bit and I will get this done.
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > >
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36745 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
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                                  These are all great!! Thanks Eric!!!!!!!

                                  Tim

                                  --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

                                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leroymcconnell"
                                  > <leroymcconnell@...>
                                  > wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > >>
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/1.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/2.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/3.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/4.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/5.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/6.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
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                                  > >
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                                  > >
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                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/12.jpg
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                                  > >
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                                  > >
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                                  > >
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                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/16.jpg
                                  > >
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                                  > >
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                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/18.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/19.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/20.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/21.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/22.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/23.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/24.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/25.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/26.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/27.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/28.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/29.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/30.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/31.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/32.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/33.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/34.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/35.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/36.jpg
                                  > >
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                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/37.jpg
                                  > >
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                                  > >
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                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/39.jpg
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/Ebay/pota/web/pota%20photo/40.jpg
                                  > >
                                  > > I have to scan a few more and they will be up
                                  > later tonight.
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36746 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/13/2006
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                                  This is a hell of a lot of work Greg! It is all
                                  wonderful! THANK YOU!! (and Hunter!)

                                  Tim

                                  --- Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

                                  > There's been some updates to the Power Records
                                  > section of Hunter's site. In addition to a scan of
                                  > the display riser I recently acquired at the New
                                  > York Comic-con, I've finally completed the
                                  > long-gestating CD label/booklet project I'd been
                                  > working on. Those who want to make their own Power
                                  > Records CDs can download hi-res files to print disc
                                  > labels, booklets showing the original album art and
                                  > even tray cards (there's even a common image for the
                                  > inner side of the tray card if you want to use a
                                  > clear tray in your CD jewel case).
                                  >
                                  > Also now available are hi-res scans of all the
                                  > album sleeves, including the 3 TV story 'Little LPs'
                                  > and while I was at it I re-scanned and cleaned-up
                                  > the 4 comic covers and re-built the comic PDFs and
                                  > split them into three separate PDFs each for easier
                                  > downloading.
                                  >
                                  > My thanks to Michael Whitty and Tim Parati who
                                  > provided me with scans for the TV Little LPs didn't
                                  > have. Thanks also to Hunter for hosting these files
                                  > and for the time he spent yesterday completely
                                  > reformatting the Power Records page on his site to
                                  > best show the new additions.
                                  >
                                  > Whew! Now that I'm done with that, I'm going to
                                  > DisneyWorld!
                                  >
                                  > https://pota.goatley.com
                                  >
                                  > Greg
                                  >


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                                  Group: pota Message: 36747 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/13/2006
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                                  In a message dated 4/13/2006 11:56:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bevnlarryt@... writes:
                                  They develop an idea, into a show or film,make it into a radio show and have archives of these rograms ,for other generations to listen to.
                                   
                                  Not always.  They were going to erase the Monty Python series.
                                  That was BBC practice back then.  If it hadn't been for the PBS
                                  station here in Dallas.  No one outside of the UK would have
                                  ever heard of them.  But when other PBS stations in the US
                                  also jumped on the bandwagon after hearing of their popularity
                                  on KERA they became a worldwide phenomenon.  I'm sure
                                  nowadays the BBC thinks twice before wiping a series' tapes.
                                   
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36748 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
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                                  In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:56:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bevnlarryt@... writes:
                                  I think,in America,we tend to glut ourselves on so much programming  and forget the really great shows.Once they run ,put into syndication ,that is it.When the POTA series aired, the films were still being seen and the public was in the mood ,but not for long. In the States popularity is temporary, whether the subject is a series or event or person . The British tend to admire the concept and artistry of a show or film . They develop an idea, into a show or film,make it into a radio show and have archives of these rograms ,for other generations to listen to. I was listening to some of the old British sitcomprograms on BBC Radio (Channel 4). I will not say we do not remember our programs,but I seriously doubt our new generation has the same interest as they do,in Great Britian.I probably m wrong,but from talking to many young people , their interests changes quickly. As for "casual buyers" investing in these sets, they would have to be seriously interested in the films and series,because this is an expensive set( and rightfully,it should be)! the whole of these films point to man's tragedy and the apes misfortune to be linked to man's innate flaws .There is much sadness in the first,second ,third of these films.The fourth (COTPOTA ) shows the triumph of the apes,lead by Caesar, being man's benevolent ruler! But soon enough the ruler makes mistakes and must learn to compromise. The Ape lady  Beve

                                  I think the answer was much simpler. In the US the POTA TV series was aired on CBS opposite "Sanford and Son" and "Chico and the Man" on NBC and many households still had only 1 TV in those days. The kids would have liked to watch the show but Mom & Dad controlled the TV and what do you think THEY wanted to watch?
                                  Bruce
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36749 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
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                                  In a message dated 4/13/2006 2:20:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leroymcconnell@... writes:
                                  I skipped school my senior year to see Star Wars at
                                  the Lowes theater in NY and I did not like it then and
                                  I'm still not a fan of it.  But I still seem to buy
                                  the movie tickets and purchased the DVD.  I have no
                                  idea why.
                                  I recorded Star Wars the first day at the NY Loew's theatre on audio cassette skipping school also...I somehow doubt I still have the tapes...snuck in the recorder in a Korvettes store bag with a phony receipt stapled to the bag! Ah, memories...
                                  Bruce  
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36750 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/13/2006
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                                  In a message dated 4/13/2006 1:56:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
                                  I remember well when Wookies replaced Apes.  Who needs that Bigfoot of an
                                  Ewok?  He can't even talk.  But you're right about the video market.  I can
                                  still remember getting 'Enter The Dragon' for my Birthday. It cost $80 bucks!
                                   
                                  POTA was shown regularly on broadcast TV and then on Sci-fi when cable
                                  became popular.  Why spend a bunch of money for a movie you can tape?
                                   
                                   
                                  When VCR's were finally cheap enough for the general public to buy (my first was in 1983) the first APES movie was available on VHS-for 60 dollars! I really wanted it but in those days that was a day's pay!
                                  Bruce
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                                  Group: pota Message: 36751 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 4/13/2006
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] RE: [pota_tv] Power Records
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                                    I bought it at the New York comic-con back in February. It appears to be part of a display of some kind, whether for the comics, the albums or the 'Little LPs' I don't know. There are two notches along the bottom on the back of the piece that I presume would have allowed it to fit on top of a floor display or the back of a table or counter display.
                                     
                                    The actual piece measures 23 x 16 inches, but the file on Hunter's site is reduced so it fits on an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet.
                                     
                                    Greg

                                    Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
                                    Greg,
                                     
                                    These are magnificent!
                                     
                                    Hey – where is this pic from?  Is it from the display, and is it original art not found elsewhere on the records?

                                     
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