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Group: pota Message: 37253 From: Eric McConnell Date: 5/17/2006
Subject: Still More Planet of the Apes Photos
Group: pota Message: 37254 From: drhasslein Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: TV series dvd
Group: pota Message: 37255 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4
Group: pota Message: 37256 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: POTA in Toyfare
Group: pota Message: 37257 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Group: pota Message: 37258 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Group: pota Message: 37259 From: lordarthur75062 Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: Interesting Trivia....
Group: pota Message: 37260 From: Ty Templeton Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4
Group: pota Message: 37261 From: John B Jones Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4
Group: pota Message: 37262 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Group: pota Message: 37263 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Group: pota Message: 37264 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Group: pota Message: 37265 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate
Group: pota Message: 37266 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA in Toyfare
Group: pota Message: 37267 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Group: pota Message: 37268 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate
Group: pota Message: 37269 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate
Group: pota Message: 37270 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/20/2006
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" sc
Group: pota Message: 37271 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/20/2006
Subject: Escape premiered this day in 1971 , 5/21/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37272 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/20/2006
Subject: Escape premiered this day in 1971 , 5/21/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37273 From: totellthetruth42 Date: 5/21/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] SPOILERS!!! question about Revolution on t
Group: pota Message: 37274 From: John B Jones Date: 5/21/2006
Subject: Beach party POTA moment
Group: pota Message: 37275 From: Dave B Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Casting Call
Group: pota Message: 37276 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
Group: pota Message: 37277 From: KRae Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: Casting call
Group: pota Message: 37278 From: KRae Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37279 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37280 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37281 From: James Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37282 From: Dave B Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: Casting call
Group: pota Message: 37283 From: Dave B Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
Group: pota Message: 37284 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37285 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37286 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
Group: pota Message: 37287 From: Mark Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
Group: pota Message: 37288 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/22/2006
Subject: Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37289 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37290 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37291 From: David Giwner Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Fwd: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
Group: pota Message: 37292 From: David Giwner Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Fwd: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
Group: pota Message: 37293 From: David Giwner Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Fwd: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
Group: pota Message: 37294 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37295 From: Robert Mansell Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Time of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 37296 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37297 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37298 From: Mark Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 37299 From: Mark Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Monkey Planet Mock Poster
Group: pota Message: 37300 From: mattspence2 Date: 5/23/2006
Subject: Re: Casting Call
Group: pota Message: 37301 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37302 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Time of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 37303 From: Dave B Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37304 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37305 From: KRae Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: casting call and Monkey Planet mockup
Group: pota Message: 37306 From: worlds_imagination Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Worlds of Imagination
Group: pota Message: 37307 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 84
Group: pota Message: 37308 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] re: casting call and Monkey Planet mockup
Group: pota Message: 37309 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37310 From: job1866@aol.com Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 2628
Group: pota Message: 37311 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/24/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 2628/Time of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 37312 From: drhasslein Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37313 From: Dave B Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Re: casting call and Monkey Planet mockup
Group: pota Message: 37314 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37315 From: David Giwner Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37316 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Beneath premiered this day in 1970 , 5/26/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37317 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37318 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Beneath premiered this day in 1970 , 5/26/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37319 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2006
Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37320 From: James Date: 5/26/2006
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37321 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/27/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37322 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/27/2006
Subject: (OT) Got Cornelius?
Group: pota Message: 37323 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37324 From: Dave B Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37325 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37326 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37327 From: James Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37328 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37329 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37330 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37331 From: Zach Scott Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37332 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] (OT) Got Cornelius?
Group: pota Message: 37333 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37334 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37335 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37336 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37337 From: Ty Templeton Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37338 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/28/2006
Subject: Danny Elfman's Birthday , 5/29/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37339 From: drhasslein Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37340 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37341 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37342 From: Rich Handley Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 2633
Group: pota Message: 37343 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37344 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37345 From: Ben Avery Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Escape Soundtrack?
Group: pota Message: 37346 From: Dave B Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: Escape Soundtrack?
Group: pota Message: 37347 From: drhasslein Date: 5/29/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
Group: pota Message: 37348 From: David Giwner Date: 5/30/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37349 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/30/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape Soundtrack?
Group: pota Message: 37350 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/30/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
Group: pota Message: 37351 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/30/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37352 From: James Date: 5/30/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape Soundtrack?



Group: pota Message: 37253 From: Eric McConnell Date: 5/17/2006
Subject: Still More Planet of the Apes Photos
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Found some more POTA images.

http://www.mcconnell-simmons.com/potap.html"

Sorry it's been down a few days had to change servers.

Eric
leroymcconnell@...

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Group: pota Message: 37254 From: drhasslein Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: TV series dvd
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F.Y.I. Amazon has the POTA Television series dvd set on sale for
$24.95.
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Group: pota Message: 37255 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4
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In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:57:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tybunny@... writes:
If there's no difference to you guys, then may I recommend

 www.alteredstatescomics.com
 
The only difference is the higher price,
unless he has free shipping.
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Group: pota Message: 37256 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/18/2006
Subject: POTA in Toyfare
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    Don't know if everyone is familiar with Toyfare magazine.....it's all about action figures and every issue they do a strip called "Twisted Toyfare Theatre" where they use action figures in a comic strip form. It used to be called Twisted MEGO Theatre but I think they got in trouble ...Here is part of the current issue. It has a Probe Driod from Star Wars dropping into other universes like Superman, He-Man, LOTR, and Star Trek where after Kirk learns it is a "probe" droid locks himself in a room with it! At one point the droid lands on a distant forest planet......

    Tim


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    Group: pota Message: 37257 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/18/2006
    Subject: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
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      At http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5668 it says a card in the new DVD season of the TV show "M*A*S*H" announces when the series is done being released on DVD in November, there will be an "Ultimate" collection of the entire series. It will include "extras". Well, the loyal "M*A*S*H" fans who have been collecting the series haven't had extras. So, unless they plan on including those extras on the final season (Season 11), the most loyal fans will be forced to rebuy the entire series or do without. Kinda puts them in the same place as "Ape" fans (who, so far, have had to buy the "Ultimate" collection or miss out on the official cartoons). But this collection will probably be more expensive (seasons go for about $30 - 40 each, though ironically I just got about 5 used season for $9 each). This is only the second "Ultimate" collection from Fox I've heard about, so maybe it's a trend.
      Like "Apes", "M*A*S*H" was often filmed at Malibu Creek State Park and was a favorite show of Arthur Jacobs and Natalie Trundy.
     In other TV news, on "Here Come the Brides", a show featuring Mark (Urko) Lenard sans makeup, was released May 16th on DVD, I believe.
                                       - - - Jeff
     
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    Group: pota Message: 37258 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/18/2006
    Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
    .html
    Actually, the main MASH camp and helicopter pad were downstream from
    Ape City, in Malibu Creek Park...

    G

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote:

    > Like "Apes", "M*A*S*H" was often filmed at Malibu Creek State Park
    and was a favorite show of Arthur Jacobs and Natalie Trundy.
    > - - - Jeff
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 37259 From: lordarthur75062 Date: 5/18/2006
    Subject: Interesting Trivia....
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    Roddy McDowall often drove home in his ape make up to freak-out other
    drivers!
    That must have been really something to see,just like the incident
    where they had a station -wagon loaded with foreground gorilla police
    with the good facial-appliances going down the interstate,the Human
    driver strategically bundled off into the cargo area!
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    Group: pota Message: 37260 From: Ty Templeton Date: 5/18/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4
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    Is there a higher price? 

    If there is, I have to get on that and fix it.  Altered States should be selling our books cheaper than everyone else, imho.

    Ty

    On 5/18/06, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote:
    In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:57:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tybunny@... writes:
    If there's no difference to you guys, then may I recommend

      www.alteredstatescomics.com
     
    The only difference is the higher price,
    unless he has free shipping.


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    Group: pota Message: 37261 From: John B Jones Date: 5/18/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4
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    Based on these comments I am sold. Where can I get a copy of Revolution?
     
    JOHN
     


    From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
    Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:55 PM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4 (NO spoilers)

    We're quite specifically going to deal with the difference between the "technological" apes of the Boulle novel, and the "primative" apes of the Jacobs film series in the backup story in issue #6.  The Caesar in our story is very much a technological creature, and the Caesar in Battle clearly has given all that stuff up (or at least, left it all behind, since he has to travel BACK into the ruined city to see his parents on video).

    And by the way...

    I just got in the first pages of art from Kent Burles for his story in our series, and WOW, WOWOW!  I couldn't be happier.  He does a pretty cool lawgiver, and a way-cool wild human.  But who wins the cage match?  Maybe Kent should consider drawing comics for a living, no?

    Ty

    On 5/16/06, sdrucker@... <sdrucker@... > wrote:
    One of the more surprising things about Revolution is Caesar's journals. After seeing Conquest, one would think that he was actually looking forward to man's downfall so that he could build his new world (the degree of equality for humans beyond the "good servants/useful to us" level is subject to debate until the end of Battle, at the very least).
     
    However, I get the impression that his initial dream was for apes to become civilized and explore the universe with technology, philosophy, science, etc, rather than to control the world because it was their destiny.  The current main plot thread in Revolution is covering how he's does his part to stop the nuclear holocaust from happening -- and apprently failing due to the counter-insurgency team led by Kolp.
     
    Meanwhile the President of the US is holed up with military types futilely trying to prevent the ape rebellion from spreading, and the nukes are staring to go off around the world. It's very poignant to get that sense of "roads not taken", and how events can go out of control due to the ineptness of leadership and the laws of unintended consequences. A different US leader, with less baggage about human superiority, would have had the depth to have sought out Caesar and tried to diffuse the situation. Not that it might have stopped the ape rioting, but it might have stopped the nukes from escalating out of control around the world.
     
    The irony is that the Caesar of the Revolution series would likely have been repulsed by the anti-technology, anti-growth world that his successors built. He's just as much a product of the modern world as any of the humans, of course (using the Internet to communicate, living in a modern apartment with Lisa, etc.). I hope the series continues to show how he moved from the "modern" world to accepting a world with treetop homes and primitive agriculture. The nuclear war by itself couldn't have been the only reason, unless they really did have to flee the city with nothing but the Ape Management clothes on their backs.
     


     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dave B
    Sent: May 16, 2006 4:49 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" #4 (NO spoilers)

    Issue 4... (counts on fingers) that's two thirds of the way in by my
    reck'nin - and the world as we know it continues to unravel.
    "Unconfirmed detonations over Moscow..." So matter-of-fact and yet so
    chilling, no need at all to mention the probable millions dead and
    inevitable escalation. It's these chilling moments, the stories
    between the lines that make `Revolution' so much more than a brief
    read-and-forget experience.

    The back up strip features IMHO the best art in the title yet. It
    takes skilled writers to juggle your emotions and sympathies from
    frame to frame like that, and a brave ones to present a shocking
    sequence of events that will leave a bad taste in the mouths of most
    readers. While some may wonder at the identity of the girl cop's
    father I'm just left admiring the talents of professional storytellers
    at work.

    Viva la revolution!

    Dave B






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    Group: pota Message: 37262 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
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    I've always wondered how far, in yards/miles, Apes was from
    MASH.Anybody know if the Ape set was just a stone's throw away and
    whether the exterior shots are the same roads that the MASH jeeps drove
    on? Is it the same for Dukes of Hazzard? John, Scrolls.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 37263 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
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    MASH was about two miles southwest of Ape City, down the same
    road...The Dukes of Hazzard was shot over the hill from Little House on
    the Praire, here in Simi Valley...

    G

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > I've always wondered how far, in yards/miles, Apes was from
    > MASH.Anybody know if the Ape set was just a stone's throw away and
    > whether the exterior shots are the same roads that the MASH jeeps
    drove
    > on? Is it the same for Dukes of Hazzard? John, Scrolls.
    > >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 37264 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
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    Chris Claremont mentions in one of the Marvel articles how the hills
    are the ones the choppers swing round in the MASH opening credits.Are
    there any physical remains of the Apes series still there I wonder? I'd
    love to visit that part of the world--it would make a hell of a focus
    for an Apes Convention! John, Scrolls.
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    Group: pota Message: 37265 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate
    .html
    The opening paragraphs of the second article down on this page talks about getting to the Apes set through the Fox lot.....
    https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/articlest.htmlbr>
    shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
    I've always wondered how far, in yards/miles, Apes was from
    MASH.Anybody know if the Ape set was just a stone's throw away and
    whether the exterior shots are the same roads that the MASH jeeps drove
    on? Is it the same for Dukes of Hazzard? John, Scrolls.
    >






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    Group: pota Message: 37266 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA in Toyfare
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    In a message dated 5/18/2006 6:36:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
    Don't know if everyone is familiar with Toyfare magazine.....it's all about action figures and every issue they do a strip called "Twisted Toyfare Theatre" where they use action figures in a comic strip form. It used to be called Twisted MEGO Theatre but I think they got in trouble ...Here is part of the current issue. It has a Probe Driod from Star Wars dropping into other universes like Superman, He-Man, LOTR, and Star Trek where after Kirk learns it is a "probe" droid locks himself in a room with it! At one point the droid lands on a distant forest planet......

    Tim

    • Thanks, Tim for sharing this. It is hilarious! Elaine
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    Group: pota Message: 37267 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
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    No, there's nothing left, there...Check out our "POTA Locations" link
    on the Home page...I took some photos there, that James posted for us...

    G

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > Chris Claremont mentions in one of the Marvel articles how the hills
    > are the ones the choppers swing round in the MASH opening credits.Are
    > there any physical remains of the Apes series still there I wonder?
    I'd
    > love to visit that part of the world--it would make a hell of a focus
    > for an Apes Convention! John, Scrolls.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 37268 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate
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    In a message dated 5/19/2006 10:49:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:
    Are
    there any physical remains of the Apes series still there I wonder?
     
    From what I've heard, if you look hard enough among the rocks
    you might find a chunk of Gunite, if you're lucky.  That's all that's left.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 37269 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate
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    When they turned the Fox Ranch over to the
    Parks Department they tore Ape City down.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 37270 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/20/2006
    Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" sc
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    Fox missed one hell of a trick there--what a theme park they could have
    created? John, Scrolls.
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    Subject: Escape premiered this day in 1971 , 5/21/2006, 12:00 am
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    Group: pota Message: 37273 From: totellthetruth42 Date: 5/21/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] SPOILERS!!! question about Revolution on t
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    SPOLIER ALERT (if you haven't read REVOLUTION #4 yet). If you have,
    please throw your thoughts in.
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    Thanks Ty.

    I was surprised that Reich took his own life. It almost seemed like
    he was quietly amused by what was happening. In a twisted way mind
    you, but amused nonetheless. I would've expected him to stick around
    and see where everything ultimately led to.

    I have to admit, I'm really curious as to what's behind that huge
    door that Breck, Kolp, et al are at. I mean, I'm pretty sure I know
    what's there, but I'm anticipating a very cool splash page to show
    it all.

    Patiently awaiting issue 5. :-)


    Chris L.



    "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
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    >
    > Riech, however, may have a bullet lodged in his brain at this
    point.
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    > Ty the Guy


    Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
    > >
    > > Spoiler alert!! If you haven't read issue 4 of Revolution on the
    Planet
    > > of the Apes yet, skip this message.
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    > > Was it supposed to be President Trundy who committed suicide at
    the
    > > bottom of Page 17? It says the scenes are taking place in
    Washington,
    > > D.C., but the dialog doesn't seem like it'd be coming from that
    character
    > > ("The circle has no beginning and no end. You create the future
    and the
    > > future creates you"), and it looks like Reich's pet monkey
    falling away
    > > in the background. But on the next page there's a gorilla
    sitting at the
    > > President's desk in the Oval Office, and a human is lying dead
    on the
    > > floor with a gun in his hand. "Heil Caesar" was an interesting
    touch as
    > > well.
    > >
    > > E-mail any response to me privately so it doesn't get spoiled
    for anyone
    > > who hasn't read the issue yet.
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > > Chris L.
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    Group: pota Message: 37274 From: John B Jones Date: 5/21/2006
    Subject: Beach party POTA moment
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    Recently I was watching Bikini Beach (1964), a piece of fun fluff with Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello, and I was treated to what appeared to be a bit of prequelism to Escape from POTA (1971).

    In BB, Keenan Wynn plays a malicious real estate developer who wants to get rid of the teeny-boppers so he can build a vacation resort.  Everywhere he goes he takes with him Clyde, an ape (someone small in a medium-grade chimpanzee suit) of extraordinary intelligence whom Wynn tries to use to show how lowbrow the kids are.  In one scene Clyde wows the gang with his hot dog surfing technique.

    But what caught my eye was the scene where Clyde wins a dragster race at Don Rickle's hot rod track and is surrounded by congratulary fans who cannot see who is in the race suit or helmet.  He removed the helmet.. And the crowd gasps.. A proto-moment from the opening of EPOTA!  Fun if anyone is interested in beach party relics.

    JOHN

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    Group: pota Message: 37275 From: Dave B Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Casting Call
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    If the studios were to make a faithful (live-action) version of
    Boulle's 'Monkey Planet' who would make a good Ulysse Merou?

    I'm stating the obvious but remember Merou isn't Taylor, he's a
    journalist not an astronaut. I was thinking maybe Liam Neeson.

    And if such a movie were made would they call it 'Monkey Planet'?

    Dave
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    Group: pota Message: 37276 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
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    In a message dated 5/22/2006 1:07:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:
    I'm stating the obvious but remember Merou isn't Taylor, he's a
    journalist not an astronaut. I was thinking maybe Liam Neeson.
     
    I may be stating the obvious, but he's not French.
    If it is supposed to be faithful to the book, and a
    Frenchmen were to play a Frenchman, here's my
    Top 3 List . . . in the voice of David Letterman.
     
    # 3  Gérard Depardieu, the French Liam Neeson.
     
    At # 2 Jean Reno, That French Guy who's in everything.
     
    And the # 1 French Ulysses Merou . . . Tchéky Karyo !!!
    Not actually French, but played a French guy once in a Mel Gibson movie.
    Why some Turk who only played French?  The only guy I know who could
    sell the line, "O Apes!" and make me believe it!
     
    "O Apes!" 
    ~~~Ulysses Merou~~~~
     
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 37277 From: KRae Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: Casting call
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    Calling it Monkey Planet would be a good way to differentiate between POTA and the novelization.
    I think you could take Merou in several directions. He could be brash and mouthy; he could be more thoughtful. I have no suggestions for an actor off the top of my head - I don't keep up with current actors so well. Liam wouldn't be a personal choice. Yeah, but James Naughton would be good, actually - just put a little dye on the hair to make him seem a mite younger <G>
     
    Kass
     
    <If the studios were to make a faithful (live-action) version of
    Boulle's 'Monkey Planet' who would make a good Ulysse Merou?

    I'm stating the obvious but remember Merou isn't Taylor, he's a
    journalist not an astronaut. I was thinking maybe Liam Neeson.

    And if such a movie were made would they call it 'Monkey Planet'?

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    Group: pota Message: 37280 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
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    In a message dated 5/22/2006 4:14:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, valwp@... writes:
    And I think it'd work better if they made it as a Sundance movie, an art house movie. No big blockbuster, blow 'em up thing, but characterization and an intelligent satire.
        I think it would be awesome if a remake focused on character development and storyline instead of special effects and action-adventure. An independent flim might be the way to go.
     Elaine




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    Group: pota Message: 37281 From: James Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Monkey Planet
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    Dave Ballard put together this mock poster for a film version of the
    novel: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/mock%20poster.jpg

    Pretty cool!



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, KRae <valwp@...> wrote:
    >
    > And I think it'd work better if they made it as a Sundance
    movie, an art house movie. No big blockbuster, blow 'em up thing,
    but characterization and an intelligent satire.
    > K
    >
    > If the studios were to make a faithful (live-action) version of
    > Boulle's 'Monkey Planet' who would make a good Ulysse Merou?
    >
    > I'm stating the obvious but remember Merou isn't Taylor, he's a
    > journalist not an astronaut. I was thinking maybe Liam Neeson.
    >
    > And if such a movie were made would they call it 'Monkey Planet'?
    >
    > Dave
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 37282 From: Dave B Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: Casting call
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    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, KRae <valwp@...> wrote:

    James Naughton would be good, actually - just put a little dye on the
    hair to make him seem a mite younger <G>

    I'd love to be a fly on the wall if his agent ever made that call!

    "Hey James, ever hear of a movie called 'Planet of the apes?

    James, you still there?

    James?...'

    Dave
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    Group: pota Message: 37283 From: Dave B Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
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    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:

    > At # 2 Jean Reno, That French Guy who's in everything.

    Hmmmm, could work.

    > And the # 1 French Ulysses Merou . . . Tchéky Karyo !!!
    > Not actually French, but played a French guy once in a Mel Gibson
    movie.

    Don't know him - I'm off to Google land to find out more.

    Dave
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    Group: pota Message: 37284 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
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    That's brilliant! and the thought of Penelope Cruz as Nova is ...welll.....is mighty nice!

    Tim

    James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    Dave Ballard put together this mock poster for a film version of the
    novel: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/mock%20poster.jpg

    Pretty cool!



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, KRae <valwp@...> wrote:
    >
    >   And I think it'd work better if they made it as a Sundance
    movie, an art house movie. No big blockbuster, blow 'em up thing,
    but characterization and an intelligent satire.
    >   K
    >
    > If the studios were to make a faithful (live-action) version of
    > Boulle's 'Monkey Planet' who would make a good Ulysse Merou?
    >
    > I'm stating the obvious but remember Merou isn't Taylor, he's a
    > journalist not an astronaut. I was thinking maybe Liam Neeson.
    >
    > And if such a movie were made would they call it 'Monkey Planet'?
    >
    > Dave
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    Group: pota Message: 37285 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
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    In a message dated 5/22/2006 9:39:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, taebokitti@... writes:
        I think it would be awesome if a remake focused on character development and storyline instead of special effects and action-adventure. An independent flim might be the way to go.
     Elaine
     
    I don't think so.
    An Independent can never afford a fist rate makeup team.
    But I could see a fake independent, such as Fox Searchlights.
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    Group: pota Message: 37286 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
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    In a message dated 5/22/2006 10:07:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:
    I'm off to Google land
     
    Try IMDB land
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 37287 From: Mark Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Casting Call
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    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:


    Try IMDB land


    Try 'Funland' (that fairground thing)
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    Group: pota Message: 37288 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/22/2006
    Subject: Monkey Planet
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    It is not just "pretty cool" -- it is an excellent mock-up...Sure
    wets my appetite!...

    G

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    >
    > Dave Ballard put together this mock poster for a film version of
    the
    > novel: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/mock%20poster.jpg
    >
    > Pretty cool!
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, KRae <valwp@> wrote:
    > >
    > > And I think it'd work better if they made it as a Sundance
    > movie, an art house movie. No big blockbuster, blow 'em up thing,
    > but characterization and an intelligent satire.
    > > K
    > >
    > > If the studios were to make a faithful (live-action) version of
    > > Boulle's 'Monkey Planet' who would make a good Ulysse Merou?
    > >
    > > I'm stating the obvious but remember Merou isn't Taylor, he's a
    > > journalist not an astronaut. I was thinking maybe Liam Neeson.
    > >
    > > And if such a movie were made would they call it 'Monkey Planet'?
    > >
    > > Dave
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    Group: pota Message: 37289 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/23/2006
    Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
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    Attachments :
      Yeah . . . and then there's this . . .

      Women forced on to the streets to provide for their
      Panda's desires. Beware the Planet of the Pandas!




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      Group: pota Message: 37290 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/23/2006
      Subject: Monkey Planet
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      I love that mock up--if we had a modern day Arthur Jacobs, he'd get
      the green light just using that picture.The first half of Monkey
      Planet is amongst my favourite bits of Apes--the second half not so
      much.I'd love to see Jinn's space yacht realised, and the arrival in
      space around Soror could be awesome.Casting is tricky, because Merou
      really is totally French in aspect and behaviour, but, unless made in
      France, he'd have to morph into an American(could he be French
      Canadian!?).I'd crawl over broken glass to see Johnny Depp do this--
      Merou is a journalist, not Moses, and there should be a vulnerable,
      quirky take on the character, I think.John, Scrolls.
      > > >
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      Group: pota Message: 37291 From: David Giwner Date: 5/23/2006
      Subject: Fwd: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
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      David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
      Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 07:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
      From: David Giwner <bikergator25@...>
      Subject: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
      To: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>

      Irving Plaza is right south of Union Square.
      Walk south down 15th street and Irving Pl and tIrving Plaza is on your left.
      I may be interested in seeing the show.
      10am on Saturday  ia early for me since I work on Friday nights. If you have a cell phone send me your # and I will meet up with you guys.
      Also there is a comic shop/ toy store on Lexington and 62nd street.
      Dave.

      Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
      Hi all,

      Settling into a new computer system here, so I figured I'd start getting
      caught of on everything I had intended to do last week before the old
      system went (temporarily) on the fritz....

      At any rate, it looks like we're still on track for Saturday June 24th.
      Meeting time is yet to be determined, but it will most likely be between
      10-10:30 AM at GCT and we'll head out from there. Since the old system
      isn't hooked up yet I don't have access to the list of the stores we hit
      last time (I remember the places but not the names), but I'm sure
      everyone here who attended last September can rattle them all off. At the
      Comic Con, another one was mentioned that we all wanted to check out but
      I've also forgotten the name. James, help me out here. There were two
      locations, and they're known for selling bootlegs of the old Superhero
      animation. If there are any places anyone wants to include, now would be
      the time to let everyone know. In fact, I believe we had a route planned
      out last time.

      Also, I plan later that night (8PM) on seeing Toto perform at Irving
      Plaza. Yes, Toto, and yes, they're still around. :-) I don't know what
      everyone's musical tastes are, but anyone who's interested is welcome to
      join me. If you can't do that and would like to hang out for dinner at
      the end of the day, that'd be cool too. If nothing else though, I'd
      certainly appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction when the
      time comes. The address is 17 Irving Place for those of you who know the
      area. I went there once years ago, but the directions I was given weren't
      any good and I ended up having to take a taxi. As I recall, it's not a
      street that's simply off of another street or avenue. You have to turn in
      and then turn in again or some such weird thing.

      OK, everyone sound off and give me an update when you get a chance.
      James, I hope you've been feeling better since the last time we discussed
      this?


      Later,

      Chris L.


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      Group: pota Message: 37292 From: David Giwner Date: 5/23/2006
      Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Fwd: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
      .html
      orry. Not South, its East of Union Square.
      Dave.

      David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:


      David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
      Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 07:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
      From: David Giwner <bikergator25@...>
      Subject: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
      To: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>

      Irving Plaza is right south of Union Square.
      Walk south down 15th street and Irving Pl and tIrving Plaza is on your left.
      I may be interested in seeing the show.
      10am on Saturday  ia early for me since I work on Friday nights. If you have a cell phone send me your # and I will meet up with you guys.
      Also there is a comic shop/ toy store on Lexington and 62nd street.
      Dave.

      Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
      Hi all,

      Settling into a new computer system here, so I figured I'd start getting
      caught of on everything I had intended to do last week before the old
      system went (temporarily) on the fritz....

      At any rate, it looks like we're still on track for Saturday June 24th.
      Meeting time is yet to be determined, but it will most likely be between
      10-10:30 AM at GCT and we'll head out from there. Since the old system
      isn't hooked up yet I don't have access to the list of the stores we hit
      last time (I remember the places but not the names), but I'm sure
      everyone here who attended last September can rattle them all off. At the
      Comic Con, another one was mentioned that we all wanted to check out but
      I've also forgotten the name. James, help me out here. There were two
      locations, and they're known for selling bootlegs of the old Superhero
      animation. If there are any places anyone wants to include, now would be
      the time to let everyone know. In fact, I believe we had a route planned
      out last time.

      Also, I plan later that night (8PM) on seeing Toto perform at Irving
      Plaza. Yes, Toto, and yes, they're still around. :-) I don't know what
      everyone's musical tastes are, but anyone who's interested is welcome to
      join me. If you can't do that and would like to hang out for dinner at
      the end of the day, that'd be cool too. If nothing else though, I'd
      certainly appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction when the
      time comes. The address is 17 Irving Place for those of you who know the
      area. I went there once years ago, but the directions I was given weren't
      any good and I ended up having to take a taxi. As I recall, it's not a
      street that's simply off of another street or avenue. You have to turn in
      and then turn in again or some such weird thing.

      OK, everyone sound off and give me an update when you get a chance.
      James, I hope you've been feeling better since the last time we discussed
      this?


      Later,

      Chris L.


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      Group: pota Message: 37293 From: David Giwner Date: 5/23/2006
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      Sorry, once again. Walk east down east 15th street (1 Block). iRVING pLAZA will be on your  left.

      David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:


      David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
      Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 07:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
      From: David Giwner <bikergator25@...>
      Subject: Re: update- the next NYC gathering
      To: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>

      Irving Plaza is right south of Union Square.
      Walk south down 15th street and Irving Pl and tIrving Plaza is on your left.
      I may be interested in seeing the show.
      10am on Saturday  ia early for me since I work on Friday nights. If you have a cell phone send me your # and I will meet up with you guys.
      Also there is a comic shop/ toy store on Lexington and 62nd street.
      Dave.

      Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
      Hi all,

      Settling into a new computer system here, so I figured I'd start getting
      caught of on everything I had intended to do last week before the old
      system went (temporarily) on the fritz....

      At any rate, it looks like we're still on track for Saturday June 24th.
      Meeting time is yet to be determined, but it will most likely be between
      10-10:30 AM at GCT and we'll head out from there. Since the old system
      isn't hooked up yet I don't have access to the list of the stores we hit
      last time (I remember the places but not the names), but I'm sure
      everyone here who attended last September can rattle them all off. At the
      Comic Con, another one was mentioned that we all wanted to check out but
      I've also forgotten the name. James, help me out here. There were two
      locations, and they're known for selling bootlegs of the old Superhero
      animation. If there are any places anyone wants to include, now would be
      the time to let everyone know. In fact, I believe we had a route planned
      out last time.

      Also, I plan later that night (8PM) on seeing Toto perform at Irving
      Plaza. Yes, Toto, and yes, they're still around. :-) I don't know what
      everyone's musical tastes are, but anyone who's interested is welcome to
      join me. If you can't do that and would like to hang out for dinner at
      the end of the day, that'd be cool too. If nothing else though, I'd
      certainly appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction when the
      time comes. The address is 17 Irving Place for those of you who know the
      area. I went there once years ago, but the directions I was given weren't
      any good and I ended up having to take a taxi. As I recall, it's not a
      street that's simply off of another street or avenue. You have to turn in
      and then turn in again or some such weird thing.

      OK, everyone sound off and give me an update when you get a chance.
      James, I hope you've been feeling better since the last time we discussed
      this?


      Later,

      Chris L.


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      Group: pota Message: 37294 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2006
      Subject: Goldsmith bio preview
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      Group: pota Message: 37295 From: Robert Mansell Date: 5/23/2006
      Subject: Time of the Apes
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      Attachments :
        Has anybody seen this Japanese Apes movie?
        It's worth checking out the eBay ad just to read the humourous description.

        http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TIME-OF-THE-APES-JAPANESE-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-NEW-DVD_W0QQitemZ9139361440QQcategoryZ80025QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemAnd does this actor look strangely like Keanu reaves ?Robert MansellTake a look at my auctions on ebay.....http://tinyurl.com/6x887
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        Group: pota Message: 37296 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/23/2006
        Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
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          In a message dated 5/23/2006 11:11:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:
          I love that mock up--if we had a modern day Arthur Jacobs, he'd get
          the green light just using that picture.
           
          I'd have use a more Taylor-like pic for Liam Neeson.
           
          Something like these . . .
           
           
           
           
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          Group: pota Message: 37297 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/23/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
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          In a message dated 5/23/2006 11:11:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:
          I'd crawl over broken glass to see Johnny Depp do this--
          Merou is a journalist, not Moses, and there should be a vulnerable,
          quirky take on the character, I think.John, Scrolls.
           
          Burton asked his to be in his version.
          He wisely stayed away.
           
           
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          Group: pota Message: 37298 From: Mark Date: 5/23/2006
          Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re:Monkey Planet
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          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:

          > Burton asked him [Depp] to be in his version.
          > He wisely stayed away.

          I heard he asked Abe Vigoda.
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          Group: pota Message: 37299 From: Mark Date: 5/23/2006
          Subject: Monkey Planet Mock Poster
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          Very good my friend. I'd love to see your other work. I do a lot of mock posters for local
          bands (Florida/Boston areas). There is money to be made.
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          Group: pota Message: 37300 From: mattspence2 Date: 5/23/2006
          Subject: Re: Casting Call
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          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
          >
          > If the studios were to make a faithful (live-action) version of
          > Boulle's 'Monkey Planet' who would make a good Ulysse Merou?
          >
          > I'm stating the obvious but remember Merou isn't Taylor, he's a
          > journalist not an astronaut. I was thinking maybe Liam Neeson.
          >
          > And if such a movie were made would they call it 'Monkey Planet'?
          >
          > Dave
          >
          What about Vincent Perez? Also, where should Ape City be filmed? I'd vote for Prague.
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          Group: pota Message: 37301 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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          Hello,

          This email message is a notification to let you know that
          a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
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          You can access this file at the URL:
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          To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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          Group: pota Message: 37302 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Time of the Apes
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          its a great movie!!
          interesting and yes cheesy at times

          _____
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          Group: pota Message: 37303 From: Dave B Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
          >
          > Extracts now online:
          >
          > http://www.jerrygoldsmithonline.com/spotlight_biography_preview.htm
          >

          Thanks, Rory, That's something to look forward to. So how many copies
          have you ordered :0)

          I acquired Capricorn One not long ago, some sections are very
          reminiscent of his Apes score. John Roche has noticed this in other
          scores and it makes me wonder if a 'mock' soundtrack, for an Ape movie
          that never was, using only Goldsmith cues from other movies, could be
          compiled.

          Dave
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          Group: pota Message: 37304 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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          By amazing coincidence Dave, I too have just had in Capricorn One.I
          love that score--if you close your eyes it sounds like the third Apes
          score that Jerry never did.Actually, bits of the film can be viewed as
          an Apes film if you're sad enough, like me! Von Ryan's Express, the
          Sinatra war movie, is another score by Jerry that, early on, is very
          Apes like.I think the Planet score is one of the most amazing scores
          composed--it tells a story without even needing to watch the
          movie.John, Scrolls.
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          Group: pota Message: 37305 From: KRae Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: casting call and Monkey Planet mockup
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          Dave, these are nice, I really enjoyed them. Is a #3 with Johnny Depp coming next?
          Kass
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          Group: pota Message: 37306 From: worlds_imagination Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Worlds of Imagination
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          http://worldsofimagination.com/

          This site will eventually become a mega-site, a place where you can
          read about Sci-fi, Fantasy, and Horror.

          You will also find information on your favourite Cult TV series,
          comics, graphic novels and roleplaying.

          We have information on various Mythologies, which combines Myths and
          Legends with the History behind it.
          From Greek to Norse to Persian to Egyptian - you name it, we have it!
          We provide the relevant information that you can implement into your
          role-playing games.

          Please click on the Forum button to register and start discussing!
          Have fun, and come again!

          We will be delighted to receive submissions and suggestions to be
          implemented on our pages. We will also be delighted to submit your
          artwork onto our Art Gallery page.

          Any site is only as good as it's readers' feedback, so let us know
          what you think, and don't hesitate to send in your contributions.
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          Group: pota Message: 37307 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Marvel UK issue 84
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          Issue 84 is now available to download from Hunter's site. It the stunning conclusion to the 4-part Future History Chronicles story that started in issue 81. This issue also has a letters page.
           
           
          Thanks,
          Greg
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          Group: pota Message: 37308 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] re: casting call and Monkey Planet mockup
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          I like them both as well, but I think I like the second one a bit more.
           
          Greg

          KRae <valwp@...> wrote:
          Dave, these are nice, I really enjoyed them. Is a #3 with Johnny Depp coming next?
          Kass
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          Group: pota Message: 37309 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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           Try listening to Goldsmith's score to the 1971 Fox film THE MEPHISTO WALTZ and you'll hear a lot of APES in that too.  It's been out on CD for years.
           
          -- Rory
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: shanter2002 <john@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:52:12 -0000
          Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview

          By amazing coincidence Dave, I too have just had in Capricorn One.I 
          love that score--if you close your eyes it sounds like the third Apes 
          score that Jerry never did.Actually, bits of the film can be viewed as 
          an Apes film if you're sad enough, like me! Von Ryan's Express, the 
          Sinatra war movie, is another score by Jerry that, early on, is very 
          Apes like.I think the Planet score is one of the most amazing scores 
          composed--it tells a story without even needing to watch the 
          movie.John, Scrolls.
          
          
          
          
          
          
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          Group: pota Message: 37310 From: job1866@aol.com Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 2628
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          In a message dated 5/24/2006 4:47:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
          Has anybody seen this Japanese Apes movie?
          It's worth checking out the eBay ad just to read the humourous description.

          http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TIME-OF-THE-APES-JAPANESE-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-NEW-DVD_W0QQitemZ9139361440QQcategoryZ80025QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemAnd does this actor look strangely like Keanu reaves ?Robert MansellTake a look at my auctions on ebay.....http://tinyurl.com/6x887
          Absolutely HORRID! Don't do it! Please God, don't let him do it! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!......................joey
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          Group: pota Message: 37311 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/24/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 2628/Time of the Apes
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             Watch it if you can. Don't spend a lot of money to obtain a copy (I bought a used VHS on eBay for about 9 bucks with postage) but if the opportunity presents itself by all means see it. It's about par plot-wise  with a 1965 Godzilla film but the costumes & ape makeup are like an oddly-compelling car wreck.
             Then if the kids are sleeping get yourself a copy of the soft-core flick featuring actors in Ape makeup (i saw the film but can't remember the title) and 3  female astronauts there really aren't many 'offensive' scenes-and the writer at times tries to stick to the first APES film  as we see the spaceship sink in the lake (very cheesy fx!) and a few other key scenes.
             Hope I didn't come off like a pervert in this email lol but I like to inform.
            Bruce
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          Group: pota Message: 37312 From: drhasslein Date: 5/25/2006
          Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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          If memory serves correctly, Tora!Tora!Tora! shamelessly lifts
          selections of the Apes score.


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
          >
          > Try listening to Goldsmith's score to the 1971 Fox film THE
          MEPHISTO WALTZ and you'll hear a lot of APES in that too. It's been
          out on CD for years.
          >
          > -- Rory
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: shanter2002 <john@...>

          >
          > By amazing coincidence Dave, I too have just had in Capricorn One.I
          > love that score--if you close your eyes it sounds like the third
          Apes
          > score that Jerry never did.Actually, bits of the film can be viewed
          as
          > an Apes film if you're sad enough, like me! Von Ryan's Express, the
          > Sinatra war movie, is another score by Jerry that, early on, is
          very
          > Apes like.I think the Planet score is one of the most amazing
          scores
          > composed--it tells a story without even needing to watch the
          > movie.John, Scrolls.
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          Group: pota Message: 37313 From: Dave B Date: 5/25/2006
          Subject: Re: casting call and Monkey Planet mockup
          .html
          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, KRae <valwp@...> wrote:
          >
          > Dave, these are nice, I really enjoyed them. Is a #3 with Johnny
          Depp coming next?
          > Kass
          >

          Thanks Kass,

          They're fun to do. The thing with Depp is that he's such a chameleon
          it's hard to pick a 'look' that says Merou. If you can find a picture
          that does it for you I'll see what I can do with it.

          Dave
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          Group: pota Message: 37314 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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          In a message dated 5/25/2006 12:25:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:
          If memory serves correctly, Tora!Tora!Tora! shamelessly lifts
          selections of the Apes score.
           
          LOST had some very familiar drums.
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          Group: pota Message: 37315 From: David Giwner Date: 5/25/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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          Did you enjoy Lost last night?
          What do you think happened to Locke, Ecko, Desmond?
          Dave-NYC

          LordTZer0@... wrote:
          In a message dated 5/25/2006 12:25:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes:
          If memory serves correctly, Tora!Tora!Tora! shamelessly lifts
          selections of the Apes score.
           
          LOST had some very familiar drums.


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          Group: pota Message: 37316 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2006
          Subject: Beneath premiered this day in 1970 , 5/26/2006, 12:00 am
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          Group: pota Message: 37317 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2006
          Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2006, 12:00 am
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          Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2006, 12:00 am
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          Group: pota Message: 37320 From: James Date: 5/26/2006
          Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
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          It's Friday and we all know what that means, a new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER has been posted. Thanks to all who contributed.

          To access the Lesson just click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm

          Have a great weekend everyone and a very Happy Birthday to Helena!

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          Group: pota Message: 37321 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/27/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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          In a message dated 5/25/2006 10:38:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bikergator25@... writes:
          Did you enjoy Lost last night?
          What do you think happened to Locke, Ecko, Desmond?
           
          Could be anything . . .
          From death to nothing.
          But I think they were made
          into invisible smoke monsters!
          Where do you think those things come from?
          From turning The Switch instead of The Button.
          That's where!   ; )   But I guess we'll all have to
          wait until next Fall to find out.  But they hooked
          me again.  At least we got a few answers this time.
           
           
           
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          Group: pota Message: 37322 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/27/2006
          Subject: (OT) Got Cornelius?
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            Back in the '70's, Bill Blake and Paula Crist toured as Cornelius and Zira (and got lots of coverage in the Marvel POTA magazine). Bill used to autograph pictures as "Cornelius" and give them to kids. If anyone has one of those pictures from back then, Bill needs your help. He doesn't actually have those pictures anymore and he needs one to scan for a project. Specifically, there was one he had that showed both him in the flesh and as Cornelius. It's the same pictures that are on the first page of the "People Who Are the POTA" article. If anyone has this picture, please contact me pronto. I'll make sure the picture is returned. Gracias!   Jeff
           
           
           
           
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          Group: pota Message: 37323 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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           Fox's "X-Men 3" had a $44 million Friday, the second biggest opening day in U.S. cinema history Fox also has # 1 by default, last year's "Star Wars Episode 3". Here's how the to 5 opening days stack up, according to www.boxofficemojo.com  :
           
            1. "Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith"      $50 million
            2. "X-Men: The Last Stand"                   $44 mil
            3. "Spiderman 2"                                  $40.4 mil
            4. "Harry Potter & the Goblet of Fire"      $40.1 mil
            5. "Spiderman"                                      $39 mil
           
            # 18 on the list is POTA2001, which got $25 million it's first day (it's Fox's biggest opening day that isn't "Star Wars" or "X-Men"; even "Fantastic Four", which is currently getting the sequel treatment, is farther down at # 27 with $21.2 mil).
            "X-Men 2" made $31 million it's first day 3 years ago. In my opinion it's the best of the 3. "X-Men 3" is pretty good as entertainment and spectacle, but seems kind of rushed (which it was, natch, by Fox) and lacks the artistry of the previous one (thanks to it's new director, party boy Brett Ratner). It remains to see how it does in the long run and whether it will best "X-Men" defector Bryan Singer's "Superman Returns".   - - - Jeff
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          Group: pota Message: 37324 From: Dave B Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Lawgiver
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          Just to save me pouring over the movies again can anyone recall if
          there's ever any indication that the apes considered the Lawgiver to
          be a supernatural, divine or God-like being? Is he ever referred to as
          'holy'

          Thanks,
          Dave
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          Group: pota Message: 37325 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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          In a message dated 5/28/2006 1:13:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
          even "Fantastic Four", which is currently getting the sequel treatment, is farther down at # 27 with $21.2 mil).
           
          WTF?
          And it got worse reviews than POTA2K1 did!
           
           
           
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          Group: pota Message: 37326 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Lawgiver
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          In a message dated 5/28/2006 1:24:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:
          Just to save me pouring over the movies again can anyone recall if
          there's ever any indication that the apes considered the Lawgiver to
          be a supernatural, divine or God-like being? Is he ever referred to as
          'holy'
           
           
          Well that is the question isn't it.
          Even some of the leaders of the
          church questioned Christ's divinity.
          But I'll bet apes didn't have St. Nicholas
          walk over and slap them.  Damn, Santa
          Claus! Now that is cold!  True story!
          St. Nicolas was tired of arguing the
          question with a particularly obstinate
          cardinal and finally just hauled off and
          smacked him.  Yup!  The same holy
          man from Turkey who left money for
          poor kids could also dole the coal.
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          Group: pota Message: 37327 From: James Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Re: Lawgiver
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          In Planet Zaius refers to the Lawgiver as merely 'the greatest Ape of
          all'. The Ape Minister in Beneath calls the Lawgiver God's prophet and
          later during the mutant illusion Zaius does say 'the spirit of the
          Lawgiver lives'. So while the Apes don't see him as divine they do see
          him as chosen by God and somewhat above all other Apes.

          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
          >
          > Just to save me pouring over the movies again can anyone recall if
          > there's ever any indication that the apes considered the Lawgiver to
          > be a supernatural, divine or God-like being? Is he ever referred to as
          > 'holy'
          >
          > Thanks,
          > Dave
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 37328 From: shanter2002 Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Re: Lawgiver
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          I have always thought that The Lawgiver was a divinity to the gorillas--
          they seem, to me, to be the real fanatics.The chimps, I suspect, are
          more circumspect( if the Burton movie is allowed into the debate, Ari
          says that the whole Semos thing is a myth).I've always thought Zaius
          and the Orangs use the Lawgiver 'faith' as a control mechanism and
          justification for their own status--they're the ones who wear his
          regalia, they're the ones who act as Priest at funerals, they're
          the'Defender of the Faith' , carrying the sacred scrools with them(are
          they the only ones allowed to?).I think it's significant that the
          gorilla in Beneath fall in adoration of the Lawgiver apparition but
          don't exclaim 'How'd he get so big!!?'.It's the surprise of the
          arrival, and the subsequent bleeding that shocks the Gorilla Army, not
          the Lawgiver's ghostly aspect--I think the gorillas could cope
          with 'supernatural' but not 'bleeding'.Didn't mean to ramble on like
          that, sorry! John, Scrolls.
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          Group: pota Message: 37329 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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          > "X-Men 2" made $31 million it's first day 3 years ago. In my
          > opinion it's the best of the 3. "X-Men 3" is pretty good as
          > entertainment and spectacle,

          I enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect, but it could have been much worse.

          > but seems kind of rushed (which it was,
          > natch, by Fox) and lacks the artistry of the previous one (thanks to
          > it's new director, party boy Brett Ratner).

          I don't know how much he can be blamed, seeing that he was brought in
          about 9 weeks before shooting, after the movie had been in
          preproduction for almost a year with another director. (I think I
          have those times right.) In fact, I was surprised at how similar the
          movie's feel was to the first two. Not as deep or as well thought
          out, but stylistically, it was a good match.

          Hunter
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          Group: pota Message: 37330 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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          >> even "Fantastic Four", which is currently getting the sequel treatment, is
          >> farther down at # 27 with $21.2 mil).

          > WTF?
          > And it got worse reviews than POTA2K1 did!

          That doesn't mean it was a worse movie. And it wasn't, IMO. FF was a
          big letdown from we'd expected after "X-Men" and "Spider-Man", but it
          was at least entertaining (IMO). POTA2K1 wasn't even that.

          Hunter
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          Group: pota Message: 37331 From: Zach Scott Date: 5/28/2006
          Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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            You can say that again, Hunter!  POTA 2001 stank, in my opinion.
             
            Zach   
             
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            From: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Date: 05/28/06 07:13:41
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
             
            >> even "Fantastic Four", which is currently getting the sequel  treatment, is
            >> farther down at # 27 with $21.2 mil).
             
            > WTF?
            > And it got worse reviews than POTA2K1 did!
             
            That doesn't mean it was a worse movie.  And it wasn't, IMO. FF was a
            big letdown from we'd expected after "X-Men" and "Spider-Man", but it
            was at least entertaining (IMO).  POTA2K1 wasn't even that.
             
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            Group: pota Message: 37332 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/28/2006
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] (OT) Got Cornelius?
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              I have this....and can scan it with a higher res.....but it's got the writing on it.....let me know if this is what he wants...

              Tim

              veetus@... wrote:
                Back in the '70's, Bill Blake and Paula Crist toured as Cornelius and Zira (and got lots of coverage in the Marvel POTA magazine). Bill used to autograph pictures as "Cornelius" and give them to kids. If anyone has one of those pictures from back then, Bill needs your help. He doesn't actually have those pictures anymore and he needs one to scan for a project. Specifically, there was one he had that showed both him in the flesh and as Cornelius. It's the same pictures that are on the first page of the "People Who Are the POTA" article. If anyone has this picture, please contact me pronto. I'll make sure the picture is returned. Gracias!   Jeff
               
               
               
               


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              Group: pota Message: 37333 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/28/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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              In a message dated 5/28/2006 7:13:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:
              POTA2K1 wasn't even that.
              That's as may be, but it had talking monkeys.
              Always a big plus in my book.  It fact, if it has
              the talking monkeys, I can do without the
              POTA references.  They're just a distraction
              anyway . . . Let elevated themes and more
              MONKEYS!  That's what I say.  Message
              BAH!  If you want to send a message call
              Western Union, and the old saying goes.
               
               
               
               
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              Group: pota Message: 37334 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/28/2006
              Subject: Re: Lawgiver
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              I always saw their interpretation of the Lawgiver as a prophet...

              G

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
              >
              > Just to save me pouring over the movies again can anyone recall if
              > there's ever any indication that the apes considered the Lawgiver to
              > be a supernatural, divine or God-like being? Is he ever referred to as
              > 'holy'
              >
              > Thanks,
              > Dave
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 37335 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/28/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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              I rather liked it, myself...It was a bit rushed, they had a lot to
              say, but the story was good...I did like the book better (natch)...

              G

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              >
              > > "X-Men 2" made $31 million it's first day 3 years ago. In my
              > > opinion it's the best of the 3. "X-Men 3" is pretty good as
              > > entertainment and spectacle,
              >
              > I enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect, but it could have been much worse.
              >
              > > but seems kind of rushed (which it was,
              > > natch, by Fox) and lacks the artistry of the previous one (thanks
              to
              > > it's new director, party boy Brett Ratner).
              >
              > I don't know how much he can be blamed, seeing that he was brought
              in
              > about 9 weeks before shooting, after the movie had been in
              > preproduction for almost a year with another director. (I think I
              > have those times right.) In fact, I was surprised at how similar
              the
              > movie's feel was to the first two. Not as deep or as well thought
              > out, but stylistically, it was a good match.
              >
              > Hunter
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 37336 From: hotscheetz Date: 5/28/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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              I have to agree, big time, with Hunter...Although I don't feel "let
              down", FF wasn't as "big" as X-Men and SpiderMan, but it was a lot of
              fun, with a great cast...Now, don't get me started on POTA01!!...

              G

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              >
              > >> even "Fantastic Four", which is currently getting the sequel
              treatment, is
              > >> farther down at # 27 with $21.2 mil).
              >
              > > WTF?
              > > And it got worse reviews than POTA2K1 did!
              >
              > That doesn't mean it was a worse movie. And it wasn't, IMO. FF was
              a
              > big letdown from we'd expected after "X-Men" and "Spider-Man", but
              it
              > was at least entertaining (IMO). POTA2K1 wasn't even that.
              >
              > Hunter
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 37337 From: Ty Templeton Date: 5/28/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Lawgiver
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              I always saw the lawgiver as a mythic figure from history, somewhat more akin to Moses, rather than Christ...at some point in history, he became deified, the same way many figures do, but he probably wasn't divine in the minds of rational apes. 

              I'm not even sure he wasn't a composite of characters, stitched together from great apes of history, like King Arthur.

              Ty

              On 5/28/06, shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
              I have always thought that The Lawgiver was a divinity to the gorillas--
              they seem, to me, to be the real fanatics.The chimps, I suspect, are
              more circumspect( if the Burton movie is allowed into the debate, Ari
              says that the whole Semos thing is a myth).I've always thought Zaius
              and the Orangs use the Lawgiver 'faith' as a control  mechanism and
              justification for their own status--they're the ones who wear his
              regalia, they're the ones who act as Priest at funerals, they're
              the'Defender of the Faith' , carrying the sacred scrools with them(are
              they the only ones allowed to?).I think it's significant that the
              gorilla in Beneath fall in adoration of the Lawgiver apparition but
              don't exclaim 'How'd he get so big!!?'.It's the surprise of the
              arrival, and the subsequent bleeding that shocks the Gorilla Army, not
              the Lawgiver's ghostly aspect--I think the gorillas could cope
              with 'supernatural' but not 'bleeding'.Didn't mean to ramble on like
              that, sorry! John, Scrolls.







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              Group: pota Message: 37339 From: drhasslein Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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              Fantastic Four made Roger Ebert's 10 worst films of the year list,
              while Richard Roper said POTA2K1 was better than the original.
              (I don't agree, I'm just pointing this out)

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              >
              > >> even "Fantastic Four", which is currently getting the sequel
              treatment, is
              > >> farther down at # 27 with $21.2 mil).
              >
              > > WTF?
              > > And it got worse reviews than POTA2K1 did!
              >
              > That doesn't mean it was a worse movie. And it wasn't, IMO. FF was a
              > big letdown from we'd expected after "X-Men" and "Spider-Man", but it
              > was at least entertaining (IMO). POTA2K1 wasn't even that.
              >
              > Hunter
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 37340 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
              .html
              > Fantastic Four made Roger Ebert's 10 worst films of the year list,
              > while Richard Roper said POTA2K1 was better than the original.
              > (I don't agree, I'm just pointing this out)

              That just reveals what idiots they both are.
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              Group: pota Message: 37341 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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              In a message dated 5/29/2006 4:55:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:
              That just reveals what idiots they both are.
               
              That's what I miss about Gene Siskle . . . balance!
               
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              Group: pota Message: 37342 From: Rich Handley Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 2633
              .html
              >From: "Ty Templeton" tybunny@...
              >I always saw the lawgiver as a mythic figure from history, somewhat more
              >akin to Moses, rather than Christ...at some point in history, he became
              >deified, the same way many figures do, but he probably wasn't divine in the
              >minds of rational apes.
              >I'm not even sure he wasn't a composite of characters, stitched together
              >from great apes of history, like King Arthur.


              King Arthur was stitched together from great apes of
              history? Cool! (Heh heh...just kidding.) I think you're probably
              right about this, especially given that the comics over the years
              have revealed the existence of several Lawgivers, and that the Sacred
              Scrolls were written by more than one ape, in more than one era.


              >From: "drhasslein" drhasslein@...
              >Fantastic Four made Roger Ebert's 10 worst films of the year list,
              >while Richard Roper said POTA2K1 was better than the original.
              >(I don't agree, I'm just pointing this out)


              Yeah, I don't agree either. POTA2K had its moments, but I consider
              it a far inferior movie to the originals and even the TV
              show. Fantastic Four, on the other hand, was surprisingly
              entertaining given how badly it was received.
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              Group: pota Message: 37343 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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              I thought "Fantastic Four" was garbage. Maybe because there's been so many
              good comic book movies that there's no point in sitting through a bad one.
              POTA2001 is bad but I didn't hate it as much as other fans. It had some
              clever stuff in it and a few good points. FF was like "Friends" with super
              powers. - - - Jeff
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              To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 12:47 AM
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park


              > Fantastic Four made Roger Ebert's 10 worst films of the year list,
              > while Richard Roper said POTA2K1 was better than the original.
              > (I don't agree, I'm just pointing this out)
              >
              > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
              > >
              > > >> even "Fantastic Four", which is currently getting the sequel
              > treatment, is
              > > >> farther down at # 27 with $21.2 mil).
              > >
              > > > WTF?
              > > > And it got worse reviews than POTA2K1 did!
              > >
              > > That doesn't mean it was a worse movie. And it wasn't, IMO. FF was a
              > > big letdown from we'd expected after "X-Men" and "Spider-Man", but it
              > > was at least entertaining (IMO). POTA2K1 wasn't even that.
              > >
              > > Hunter
              > >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 37344 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Lawgiver
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              I get the feeling the apes don't consider the Lawgiver "god-like" but more
              as a Moses type with the Ten Commandments; chosen. Jeff

              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "Dave B" <smugster2000@...>
              To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:23 PM
              Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Lawgiver


              > Just to save me pouring over the movies again can anyone recall if
              > there's ever any indication that the apes considered the Lawgiver to
              > be a supernatural, divine or God-like being? Is he ever referred to as
              > 'holy'
              >
              > Thanks,
              > Dave
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 37345 From: Ben Avery Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Escape Soundtrack?
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              Did Film Score Monthly put out an Escape soundtrack?

              I thought they did. I got the Beneath soundtrack from
              them and the Conquest/Battle soundtrack a few years
              ago.

              Is the soundtrack for Escape available anywhere?

              ~ Ben

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              Group: pota Message: 37346 From: Dave B Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: Escape Soundtrack?
              .html
              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Ben Avery <whisperingloon@...> wrote:
              >
              > Did Film Score Monthly put out an Escape soundtrack?

              Hey Ben,

              The POTA CD soundtrack features a suite from Escape but there has yet
              to be an official release of the full score. There is a bootleg doing
              the rounds that features more music than the suite and that can
              usually be found on eBay.

              Dave
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              Group: pota Message: 37347 From: drhasslein Date: 5/29/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] (OT) Fox knocks it out of the park
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              And Siskel was funny. The show isn't even close to being as fun as it
              use to be.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:

              > That's what I miss about Gene Siskle . . . balance!
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 37348 From: David Giwner Date: 5/30/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
              .html
              Im hooked also. Desmond should be a major player next sesason.
              Dave.

              LordTZer0@... wrote:
              In a message dated 5/25/2006 10:38:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bikergator25@... writes:
              Did you enjoy Lost last night?
              What do you think happened to Locke, Ecko, Desmond?
               
              Could be anything . . .
              From death to nothing.
              But I think they were made
              into invisible smoke monsters!
              Where do you think those things come from?
              From turning The Switch instead of The Button.
              That's where!   ; )   But I guess we'll all have to
              wait until next Fall to find out.  But they hooked
              me again.  At least we got a few answers this time.
               
               
               


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              Group: pota Message: 37349 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/30/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape Soundtrack?
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              In a message dated 5/29/2006 2:58:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whisperingloon@... writes:
              Is the soundtrack for Escape available anywhere?
               
              A Escape Suite was tacked on the last release of Planet.
              It's didn't include the Shopping Song though.  That was
              available online somewhere.  Anyone have a link?
               
               
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              Group: pota Message: 37350 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/30/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith bio preview
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              In a message dated 5/30/2006 10:49:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bikergator25@... writes:
              Im hooked also. Desmond should be a major player next sesason.
               
              Yeah. if he and Locke weren't killed with Eko.
              You may have noticed that the two they killed
              this season were the ones busted for drunk driving.
              Very handy for the writers.  If anyone wants a raise,
              or becomes a problem . . . Bang!  Their character
              get's killed off like they were on a soap opera.
              I'll bet that keeps production costs down at
              the contract renegotiation meetings.  ; )
               
               
               
               
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              Group: pota Message: 37351 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/30/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Lawgiver
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              In a message dated 5/29/2006 12:22:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
                I get the feeling the apes don't consider the Lawgiver "god-like" but more
              as a Moses type with the Ten Commandments; chosen. 
               
              Yeah, but Moses had Godlike powers.
              Though as I recall, Heston usually had
              John "Aaron" Carradine do a lot of his work.
               
               
               
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              Group: pota Message: 37352 From: James Date: 5/30/2006
              Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Escape Soundtrack?
              .html
              An MP3 of the Shopping track is available on the Downloads page of the
              Group Website:
              http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
              >
              >
              >
              > A Escape Suite was tacked on the last release of Planet.
              > It's didn't include the Shopping Song though. That was
              > available online somewhere. Anyone have a link?
              >
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