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Group: pota Message: 37653 From: Mark Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
Group: pota Message: 37654 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37655 From: James Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
Group: pota Message: 37656 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
Group: pota Message: 37657 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton
Group: pota Message: 37658 From: Kassidy Rae Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: Pete Burke
Group: pota Message: 37659 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
Group: pota Message: 37660 From: James Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
Group: pota Message: 37661 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37662 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37663 From: Mark Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37664 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
Group: pota Message: 37665 From: Graham Hill Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37666 From: Graham Hill Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37667 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
Group: pota Message: 37668 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
Group: pota Message: 37669 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
Group: pota Message: 37670 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37671 From: Javier Vazquez Ponce Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
Group: pota Message: 37672 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 37673 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37674 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37675 From: jose ramon Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37676 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37677 From: Helen Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37678 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37679 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37680 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37681 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: Amsco Adventure set
Group: pota Message: 37682 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37683 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37684 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37685 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Conquest premiered this day in 1972 , 6/29/2006, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 37686 From: Dave B Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37687 From: Dave B Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37688 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37689 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
Group: pota Message: 37690 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton
Group: pota Message: 37691 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37692 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37693 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37694 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37695 From: jose ramon Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37696 From: ape_mom Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37697 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
Group: pota Message: 37698 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton
Group: pota Message: 37699 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: The Lawngiver
Group: pota Message: 37700 From: Mark Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37701 From: ape_mom Date: 6/29/2006
Subject: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37702 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/30/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
Group: pota Message: 37703 From: Zachary Scott Date: 6/30/2006
Subject: Re: The Lawngiver
Group: pota Message: 37704 From: James Date: 6/30/2006
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 37705 From: hotscheetz Date: 6/30/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37706 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/30/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37707 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
Group: pota Message: 37708 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37709 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton
Group: pota Message: 37710 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37711 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton
Group: pota Message: 37712 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37713 From: ape_mom Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37714 From: ape_mom Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37715 From: ape_mom Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Here's a humbling thought
Group: pota Message: 37716 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37717 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37718 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37719 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37720 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37721 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37722 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37723 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37724 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/2/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37725 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/2/2006
Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
Group: pota Message: 37726 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 7/2/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 37727 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37728 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37729 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37730 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37731 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37732 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37733 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37734 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37735 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/3/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37736 From: Dave B Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: New Nova kit
Group: pota Message: 37737 From: Dave B Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37738 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37739 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
Group: pota Message: 37740 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Revolution #5 in comic shops this week
Group: pota Message: 37741 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Apes Arena
Group: pota Message: 37742 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: deleted scene pics
Group: pota Message: 37743 From: Zachary Scott Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
Group: pota Message: 37744 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: Apes Arena
Group: pota Message: 37745 From: James Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution #5 in comic shops this week
Group: pota Message: 37746 From: James Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: Apes Arena
Group: pota Message: 37747 From: James Date: 7/4/2006
Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
Group: pota Message: 37748 From: Dave B Date: 7/5/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution #5 in comic shops this week
Group: pota Message: 37749 From: Dave B Date: 7/5/2006
Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
Group: pota Message: 37750 From: Zachary Scott Date: 7/5/2006
Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
Group: pota Message: 37751 From: Zachary Scott Date: 7/5/2006
Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
Group: pota Message: 37752 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/5/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 90



Group: pota Message: 37653 From: Mark Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
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Oh, you did the covers James. Good stuff. Photoshop?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> I lifted it from a screen grab of the openning credits.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > Where did you get the type of the CONQUEST spine, James?
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 37654 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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In a message dated 6/26/2006 9:44:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

There's a new card set on Hunter's site featuring new paintings from Graham Hill. Graham approached me a few months ago and told me he wanted to do a series of paintings of characters from the movies as well as the TV series and asked me to fit them into Topps-style trading card frames so they could be displayed and printed as a series of cards. Every few weeks he finished a painting and I got a new file. The last one was finished just over a week ago, so now the set is complete and everyone can see these fantastic paintings.
 
All nine card images are available for viewing. The card fronts can be downloaded in hi-res either individually or as a 9-card grid with a separate puzzle back file also available for printing your own set of cards.
 
 
Greg
Wow, these are great! How big were the originals?
Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 37655 From: James Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
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Thanks Mark. I used Microsoft Picture It!. Still can't get the hang of
Photoshop.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
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> Oh, you did the covers James. Good stuff. Photoshop?
>
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Group: pota Message: 37656 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 6/26/06 10:48:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:


I lifted it from a screen grab of the opening credits.






Hey!  Can you do that with PLANET and BENEATH?  Those "fonts" are different than the ads and posters.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 37657 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: Tim Burton
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This is my personal opinion but the problem with the remake was Burton.

The guy is a hack.





Burton's problem is he's a visual artist.  He knows nothing about story structure and character development, and he himself has said he doesn't know whether a script is good or bad.

All I know is that even Burton doesn't mention POTA2001 anymore.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 37658 From: Kassidy Rae Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: Pete Burke
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Er... thanks. Not to incite anything, but I don't care for the gear so
much. You want to tie him and send him over, now *that's* a plan.

Kass


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> I customized a Pete Burke doll for Kass. I replaced his clothing
with bondage gear.
>
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Group: pota Message: 37659 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
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In a message dated 6/26/2006 11:02:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:
Ari had the
potential to be a really interesting and deep character(in the junior
novels, she is an excellent character!).
 
They were changing things right up until production.
She and Thade were originally brother & sister, and
she was a princess with braids ala Bo Derick. WTF?
 
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Group: pota Message: 37660 From: James Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
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Sure, it is very easy to remove the original background and replace it with a new one.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Hey! Can you do that with PLANET and BENEATH? Those "fonts" are different
> than the ads and posters.
>
> -- Rory
>

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Group: pota Message: 37661 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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Graham

You are a great artist.

Donna
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Group: pota Message: 37662 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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According to the N-Geo show Ape-Man
Oliver is alive and well and living here
in Texas at Primarily Primates, age 46.
 
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Group: pota Message: 37663 From: Mark Date: 6/26/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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Jamie Oliver?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> According to the N-Geo show Ape-Man
> Oliver is alive and well and living here
> in Texas at Primarily Primates, age 46.
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Group: pota Message: 37664 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
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Apparently the 'Ari in see-through costume emerging out of the sea' was
also a very, very late cut, which they replaced with Leo escaping from
his pod, sadly.I just had the chilling thought that maybe I'm the only
one who has ever read the junior novels for Burton's Apes.Has anyone
else read them? Seriously, the junior novels are excellent.They are the
best bit of Burton's Apes and have a classic feel.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 37665 From: Graham Hill Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Wow, these are great! How big were the originals?
> Bruce
>
They were all about 17.5 inch by 12.5 with the exception of Aldo
which was slightly smaller at 14 inch by 10, thanks for the kind words.
Best Graham.
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Group: pota Message: 37666 From: Graham Hill Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "DONNA SPIRES" <dspires501@...> wrote:
>
> Graham
>
> You are a great artist.
>
> Donna
>
Thanks Donna, glad you like them.
Best wishes Graham.
ps before I forget thanks to Greg, who as always was a fantastic help!!
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Group: pota Message: 37667 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
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In a message dated 6/27/2006 2:59:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:

Apparently the 'Ari in see-through costume emerging out of the sea'

Wait a minute . . . Ari was terrified of water.
How could she be emerging from the sea?
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 37668 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
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In a message dated 6/27/2006 2:59:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:

Apparently the 'Ari in see-through costume emerging out of the sea'

 
Sea?  What sea?
That wasn't in the deleted scenes on the DVD.
 
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Group: pota Message: 37669 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
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>> Apparently the 'Ari in see-through costume emerging out of the sea'

> Sea? What sea?
> That wasn't in the deleted scenes on the DVD.

John's post was a joke, a take-off, I assume, on the Bond flicks....

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 37670 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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In a message dated 6/27/2006 6:01:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, shop@... writes:

Wow, these are great! How big were the originals?
> Bruce
>
They were all about 17.5 inch by 12.5 with the exception of Aldo
which was slightly smaller at 14 inch by 10, thanks for the kind words.
Best Graham.

They really are wonderful! They should be on the cover of something or for sale in a portfolio or something!
   Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 37671 From: Javier Vazquez Ponce Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: DVD Covers
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  • good woork, but this covers are very serious and formal,
  • I think a photoshop cut scenes of the movies will be more impact in the covers.

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Group: pota Message: 37672 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/27/2006
Subject: Re: New card set on Hunter's site
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I'm back!!

These are terrific! They would make a fine limited
edition set!

Tim

--- Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> There's a new card set on Hunter's site featuring
> new paintings from Graham Hill. Graham approached me
> a few months ago and told me he wanted to do a
> series of paintings of characters from the movies as
> well as the TV series and asked me to fit them into
> Topps-style trading card frames so they could be
> displayed and printed as a series of cards. Every
> few weeks he finished a painting and I got a new
> file. The last one was finished just over a week
> ago, so now the set is complete and everyone can see
> these fantastic paintings.
>
> All nine card images are available for viewing. The
> card fronts can be downloaded in hi-res either
> individually or as a 9-card grid with a separate
> puzzle back file also available for printing your
> own set of cards.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com
>
> Greg


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Group: pota Message: 37673 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: ape rights
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.html There is a news story on the internet about Spain supporting rights for chimps and other apes. Interesting, that Spain should take the lead in this area. Elaine<.html
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Group: pota Message: 37674 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 89
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Things are looking pretty hot for Alex and Malaguena on this week's cover, and not in a good way...
 
If you though Lightsmith's Wonder Wagon was interesting, wait until you see where he calls home...
 
Marvel UK issue 89 is now available to download from Hunter's site. This week's issue contains a letter column.
 
 
Greg
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Group: pota Message: 37675 From: jose ramon Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
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you are right, Spanish goverment have this in consideration, but the oposition (Mr. Aznar party) are making a lot of jokes and don´t see the subjet with respect
 
JR
taebokitti@... wrote:
There is a news story on the internet about Spain supporting rights for chimps and other apes. Interesting, that Spain should take the lead in this area. Elaine


How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! MessengerÂ’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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Group: pota Message: 37676 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
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Something I've always wondered--what IS the correct way to pronounce
the name 'Malaguena'? It's a lovely name I've never seen anywhere else.
John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 37677 From: Helen Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: ape rights
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Elaine and others:
 
I received this earlier in the month.  You may want to follow up on this.
 
 
Great Apes Need Your Help!  The Spanish Parliament is scheduled to consider a resolution supporting legal rights for non-human great apes at the end of  June.  This resolution recognizes the need for basic legal protections and rights that will protect the non-human great apes from mistreatment, slavery, torture, death and extinction. The proposed resolution along with more information about the practical effects of this legislation can be found on the GAP website at http://www.greatapeproject.org/news.html/strong> 
 
 
 
 
Please take just a few minutes to let the Spanish government know that there is worldwide support for this important legislation.  You can do this by posting a comment on the Great Ape Project's website in Spain by clicking on http://www.proyectogransimio.org/completa.htm  and selecting "libro de visitas" 
 
 
or
 
 
by sending a letter of support stating:  Apoyo la "Proposicion No de Ley" y todas acciones necesarias en los foros y organismos internacionales, para la proteccióón de los grandes simios del maltrato, la esclavitud, la tortura, la muerte y extincióón. (which in English is "I support the Proposal to the Spanish Parliament as well as all necessary actions in international fora to protect great apes from maltreatment, enslavement, torture, death, and extinction)" with your signature, printed name, date and institution or state & country.  These letters can be sent directly to:
 
Proyecto Gran Simio,
Guadalest 5, 2A,
03005 Alicante, Spain.
 
Thank you for your help in this important effort.  If you are interested in learning more about the mission of the Great Ape Project, please visit our website at: www.greatapeproject.org.

 Michele L. Stumpe, Esq.
 President
 Great Ape Project, International
 770-988-9970
 
mlstumpe@...
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Group: pota Message: 37678 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
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Group: pota Message: 37679 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: ape rights
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Group: pota Message: 37680 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
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"mal-uh-guay-nuh" ....We used to play a standard
Spanish flavored piece in high school band called
"Malaguena"..

Tim

--- shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:

> Something I've always wondered--what IS the correct
> way to pronounce
> the name 'Malaguena'? It's a lovely name I've never
> seen anywhere else.
> John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 37681 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/28/2006
Subject: Re: Amsco Adventure set
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Attachments :
    Ok...Here's a few scans from the Amsco Adventure
    set....
    The player pieces....I am missing the humans......
    and Icarus and instructions......The top pic and the
    bottom pic are the opposite sides of the same
    piece......so glue them together if you want to make
    your own....
    the rest of the set is very cool as described below by
    mark.....you put it all together then stand it up on
    the bottom of the box...the "set" pieces are too big
    to scan but maybe I can do a few if anybody
    wants.....or maybe the whole instruction sheet?

    Tim

    --- Mark <rkid67@...> wrote:

    > Found this blurb:
    >
    > This set came out in 1974 (and today sells for over
    > four hundred dollars...), and is an
    > interesting blend of the TV series and movies. For
    > instance, there's a "Cave of the Doomsday
    > Bomb," which is straight out of Beneath the Planet
    > of the Apes. There's also a view, from Zira
    > and Cornelius's house, of the half-buried Statue of
    > Liberty jutting out of the sand (from the
    > original Planet of the Apes.) But the astronaut
    > cardboard figures are clearly Alan Virdon (Ron
    > Harper) and Peter Burke (James Naughton), from the
    > short-lived TV show. The Dr. Zaius
    > featured in this set is also from the TV series, not
    > the Maurice Evans' interpretation from the
    > early films. The Apes play set came with a space
    > capsule, Ape Headquarters, a jail (with a
    > gate that opens...) and the underground ruins of a
    > San Francisco Tram Station, featured in
    > one of the early episodes of the TV series, "The
    > Trap."
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 37685 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2006
    Subject: Conquest premiered this day in 1972 , 6/29/2006, 12:00 am
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    Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of pota
    Conquest premiered this day in 1972� �

    Thursday June 29, 2006
    All Day
    This event repeats every year.


       
     
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      Yes No
     
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    Group: pota Message: 37686 From: Dave B Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
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    I don't know if it's correct but I've always pronounced it
    'Phwoarrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!' whilst simultaneously slapping the back of my
    head.

    My wife pronounces it Mar-lar-gway-nar

    Dave


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > Something I've always wondered--what IS the correct way to pronounce
    > the name 'Malaguena'? It's a lovely name I've never seen anywhere else.
    > John, Scrolls.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 37687 From: Dave B Date: 6/29/2006
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    Outstanding!

    Does anyone mind if I forward those spacecraft images to Chris Shields
    for his Icarus website?

    Dave
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    Group: pota Message: 37688 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/29/2006
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    Not at all! Let us know what he thinks!

    Tim

    --- Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote:

    > Outstanding!
    >
    > Does anyone mind if I forward those spacecraft
    > images to Chris Shields
    > for his Icarus website?
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 37689 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
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      In one of the interviews with Danny Elfman, he said he asked Burton why he wanted to do POTA and he said he was interested in how apes move. He's also talked about what an icon Heston is. So I guess as long as he had Heston in it and had the apes move like real apes, that was good enough for him. - - - Jeff
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:58 AM
    Subject: [POTA] Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake

    Does make you wonder why, if he had such a feel for the originals, Tim
    Burton decided to deviate so wildly from Classic Apes.Ari had the
    potential to be a really interesting and deep character(in the junior
    novels, she is an excellent character!). Maybe Burton needed more of a
    restraining hand on his ideas? John, Scrolls.

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    Group: pota Message: 37690 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Tim Burton
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      I agree, the main problem with POTA2001 is Burton. If nothing else he could've said, "You want to use my name to promote this, we're going to do it right". Burton's so famous it's not like he'd have trouble finding another gig. But I also have to fault Fox, given the poor quality of their other recent "summer movies". They just don't get it. Yeah, they can run up an opening weekend with a name and exciting trailers but to be successful they need a good movie. After the opening weekend it will or die based on the movie. - - - Jeff
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: James
    Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 10:22 AM
    Subject: [POTA] Re: Tim Burton

    This is my personal opinion but the problem with the remake was Burton.

    The guy is a hack. He's been lucky in the past that he's had good
    screenplays & post-editing to fall back on. On POTA he didn't so it
    exposed him for the hack that he is.

    The original POTA had Schaffner directing. He wasn't considered an
    auteur like Burton. He was just a good director. Nor was Schaffner a
    genre director. The closest he ever came to SF again was 'The Boys from
    Brazil'.

    That's what POTA needs to be revitalized, not an auteur, not some SF hack, just another good director like Schaffner.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    > Maybe Burton needed more of a restraining hand on his ideas?

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    Group: pota Message: 37691 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
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      The only other place I've seen it is a music credit ( song or something called "Malaguena") at the end of "Born on the 4rth of July". For some reason when I saw that mind rewound to that name in the Ape comic books. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. - - - Jeff
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:15 PM
    Subject: [POTA] Re: Marvel UK issue 89

    Something I've always wondered--what IS the correct way to pronounce
    the name 'Malaguena'? It's a lovely name I've never seen anywhere else.
    John, Scrolls.

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    Group: pota Message: 37692 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
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    Tim, thanks so much! Those pics are gorgeous--they have that 'old
    postcard' feel to them, with the re-touching on them.I want these as
    stand ups and I want them now!!! It makes you misty to see just how
    ready the world was for a successful Apes tv series had CBS not gotten
    cold feet.Thanks, again! John, Scrolls.
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    Group: pota Message: 37693 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: ape rights
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    Hi Elaine,

    I know why. Somewhere near or next to Meditranian, young chimps are used as crowd pleasers. These chimps are usually badbies taken from their mothers who werer killed and/or eaten for bush meat etc.

     

    Wendy


    From: taebokitti@...
    Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [POTA] ape rights
    Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:09:07 EDT

    There is a news story on the internet about Spain supporting rights for chimps and other apes. Interesting, that Spain should take the lead in this area. Elaine


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    Group: pota Message: 37694 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
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    Yup, old Mala is a good looking little mare--I've always liked the way
    Tom Sutton had her chest unfeasibly just about staying inside her
    dress.Hang on, no, I actually don't like that.The Terror strip, once
    you tune into it, is a real saga and one of my favourite bits of
    Apes.John, Scrolls.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 37695 From: jose ramon Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
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    I think is for Malagueña, local from Malaga, south of Spain, and also a kind of folk song.
     
    JR

    veetus@... wrote:
      The only other place I've seen it is a music credit ( song or something called "Malaguena") at the end of "Born on the 4rth of July". For some reason when I saw that mind rewound to that name in the Ape comic books. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. - - - Jeff
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:15 PM
    Subject: [POTA] Re: Marvel UK issue 89

    Something I've always wondered--what IS the correct way to pronounce
    the name 'Malaguena'? It's a lovely name I've never seen anywhere else.
    John, Scrolls.



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    Group: pota Message: 37696 From: ape_mom Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: ape rights
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    So, I am wondering how many here support ape rights.

    From the Great Ape Project:

    "The idea is founded upon undeniable scientific proof that non-human
    great apes share more than genetically similar DNA with their human
    counterparts. They enjoy a rich emotional and cultural existence in
    which they experience emotions such as fear, anxiety and happiness.
    They share the intellectual capacity to create and use tools, learn
    and teach other languages. They remember their past and plan for
    their future. It is in recognition of these and other morally
    significant qualities that the Great Ape Project was founded. The
    Great Ape Project seeks to end the unconscionable treatment of our
    nearest living relatives by obtaining for non-human great apes the
    fundamental moral and legal protections of the right to life, the
    freedom from arbitrary deprivation of liberty, and protection from
    torture."

    About the Great Ape Project:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Ape_Project

    What are your thoughts?

    How long, then, before Apes do in fact rule the planet?

    Helen
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    Group: pota Message: 37697 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Paula Crist and Bill Blake
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    .html.htmlIn a message dated 6/29/06 11:41:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:


    In one of the interviews with Danny Elfman, he said he asked Burton why he wanted to do POTA and he said he was interested in how apes move. He's also talked about what an icon Heston is. So I guess as long as he had Heston in it and had the apes move like real apes, that was good enough for him. - - - Jeff


    Burton is a worse dummy than General Aldo!

    Hey, Jeff.... Which one of those Crist/Blake people stole Cornelius' map from PLANET?

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 37698 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: Re: Tim Burton
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    .html.htmlIn a message dated 6/29/06 12:09:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:


    I agree, the main problem with POTA2001 is Burton. If nothing else he could've said, "You want to use my name to promote this, we're going to do it right". Burton's so famous it's not like he'd have trouble finding another gig. But I also have to fault Fox, given the poor quality of their other recent "summer movies". They just don't get it. Yeah, they can run up an opening weekend with a name and exciting trailers but to be successful they need a good movie. After the opening weekend it will or die based on the movie. - - - Jeff


    Wake up and smell the monkey poop, everybody!

    Fox simply cashed-in on APES nostalgia by doing a "re-imagining," and everyone involved in its making -- including "Dick" Zanuck -- was also simply cashing in.  A lot of people made a lot of money selling something that no one involved really cared about -- including "Dick" Zanuck!

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 37699 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/29/2006
    Subject: The Lawngiver
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    Attachments :
      This is from the latest edition of "Toyfare" magazine
      # 108!

      Tim

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      Group: pota Message: 37700 From: Mark Date: 6/29/2006
      Subject: Re: ape rights
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      I support the Great Ape Project and give my time volunteering locally.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
      >
      > So, I am wondering how many here support ape rights.
      >
      > From the Great Ape Project:
      >
      > "The idea is founded upon undeniable scientific proof that non-human
      > great apes share more than genetically similar DNA with their human
      > counterparts. They enjoy a rich emotional and cultural existence in
      > which they experience emotions such as fear, anxiety and happiness.
      > They share the intellectual capacity to create and use tools, learn
      > and teach other languages. They remember their past and plan for
      > their future. It is in recognition of these and other morally
      > significant qualities that the Great Ape Project was founded. The
      > Great Ape Project seeks to end the unconscionable treatment of our
      > nearest living relatives by obtaining for non-human great apes the
      > fundamental moral and legal protections of the right to life, the
      > freedom from arbitrary deprivation of liberty, and protection from
      > torture."
      >
      > About the Great Ape Project:
      > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Ape_Project
      >
      > What are your thoughts?
      >
      > How long, then, before Apes do in fact rule the planet?
      >
      > Helen
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37701 From: ape_mom Date: 6/29/2006
      Subject: Ape Rights...IQ
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      I am wondering. Is it possible to test the IQ of a chimp? Or
      gorilla? Or orangutan? Does anyone here know whether this has been
      done and, if so, what is the IQ range of the other great ape species?

      Helen
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      Group: pota Message: 37702 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/30/2006
      Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 89
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      It's a nice name, anyway--really right for the character.I know a lot
      of fans dismiss the comics and trot out the 'brains in jars' line, but
      I'd feel that a massive chunk of my Apes mythos was missing if you took
      away these comics sagas.Terror, over two years and several
      chapters,really establishes a recurring set of solid characters--
      Gunpowder Julius, Steely Dan,Lightsmith, Brutus, Jason, Alexander,
      Malaguena and gives us landscapes like the Forbidden Zone and the
      Psychedrome,the Northlands and Brutus' jungle camp.I love the comics
      and I can recommend dipping into them again--people might just be
      surprised at how good they are.John, Scrolls.
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      Group: pota Message: 37703 From: Zachary Scott Date: 6/30/2006
      Subject: Re: The Lawngiver
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      Tim, that's great!  Thanks for sharing it!
       
      Zach   
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      From: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Date: 06/29/06 18:59:31
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
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      Group: pota Message: 37704 From: James Date: 6/30/2006
      Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
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      Like most people this holiday weekend our favorite simian philosopher is headed to the beach for this week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER. Thanks to both Elaine and Glen for their contribution.

      To view the Lesson just click the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

      Have a great weekend everyone!

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      Group: pota Message: 37705 From: hotscheetz Date: 6/30/2006
      Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
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      I'm wondering if there is an inexpensive way to reproduce
      these...They'd make a nice addition to any apes collection...

      G

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
      >
      > Outstanding!
      >
      > Does anyone mind if I forward those spacecraft images to Chris Shields
      > for his Icarus website?
      >
      > Dave
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37706 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 6/30/2006
      Subject: Re: ape rights
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      In a message dated 6/29/2006 9:50:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, Willowape@... writes:

      Hi Elaine,

      I know why. Somewhere near or next to Meditranian, young chimps are used as crowd pleasers. These chimps are usually badbies taken from their mothers who werer killed and/or eaten for bush meat etc.

       

      Wendy

      It's too bad that this still goes on in the world today, baby chimps need to be with their Moms. Elaine 

      .

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      Group: pota Message: 37707 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: ape rights
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      .html If apes continue to evolve they may rule the planet in a couple of hundred years. Elaine<.html
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      Group: pota Message: 37708 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      I believe there are psych tests that have been used on apes to test their IQ. I think their IQ is next to ours followed by dolphins. Elaine 
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      Group: pota Message: 37709 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton
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      Did you know at one time Burton was slated to do Superman?
      Lucky for Superman fans every where that he didn't get it.
      I hear Singer's a good director.  I wonder if he likes Apes?
       
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 37710 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      In a message dated 6/29/2006 10:03:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

      I am wondering. Is it possible to test the IQ of a chimp?

       
      Chimps actually develop faster than human children,
      up to the age of about three or four, where they stagnate.
      They never develop mentally beyond that age, where human
      children surpass them.  I read it in the book about Washu.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 37711 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton
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      I am a big X-men fan, but Singer's movies left me cold.The plot for the
      new Superman suggests to me that Singer doesn't appreciate Superman's
      real character.Tim Burton's Batman was a load of set-piece nonsense
      that got nowhere near the character.Sleepy Hollow left me cold and
      bored.I was reading an article this week about the death of the
      bockbuster and George Lucas saying that in 2025 the average cost of a
      movie will be $25 million because you can't make the big bucks back any
      more.Thing like Kong, with a LOT of marketing, make a return of around
      400% which sounds good until you look at ET which was around 2000%.The
      only guys to honour the source material and make good films with
      character and action nicely balanced were Donner on Superman and Raimie
      on Spider-man--the rest just seem to churn out soulless garbage and
      leave it to trhe guy in marketing to save the day. John, Scrolls.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37712 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
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      It would be wonderful if it could be done.And aren't Virdon's teeth
      amazingly white--nice to see being a fugitive hasn't prevented personal
      grooming! John, Scrolls.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37713 From: ape_mom Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      That's interesting. Thank you, LT.



      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 6/29/2006 10:03:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
      > sand_hill_school@... writes:
      >
      >
      >
      > I am wondering. Is it possible to test the IQ of a chimp?
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Chimps actually develop faster than human children,
      > up to the age of about three or four, where they stagnate.
      > They never develop mentally beyond that age, where human
      > children surpass them. I read it in the book about Washu.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37714 From: ape_mom Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      Thanks, Elaine. I didn't even think about dolphins having an "IQ" --
      but I suppose if they are trainable, they must. I'd love to know what
      the chimp IQ is. Especially since they are able to duplicate human
      communication, use tools, and plan for the future. It seems their IQ
      must be somewhat measureable.







      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
      >
      > I believe there are psych tests that have been used on apes to test
      their IQ.
      > I think their IQ is next to ours followed by dolphins. Elaine
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37715 From: ape_mom Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Here's a humbling thought
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      I just found this: http://www.solcomhouse.com/greatapes.htm

      'Koko has a tested IQ of between 70 and 95 on a human scale, where 100
      is considered "normal."'

      I still haven't found what a chimp's IQ might be.

      Helen
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      Group: pota Message: 37716 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      In a message dated 7/1/2006 6:32:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:
      Tim Burton's Batman was a load of set-piece nonsense
       
      What did you think of Batman Begins?
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      Group: pota Message: 37717 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      Aside from humans and apes, I believe dolphins are the only animals
      to recognize that the reflection of themselves in a mirror is in fact
      themselves...

      G

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
      >
      > Thanks, Elaine. I didn't even think about dolphins having an "IQ" -
      -
      > but I suppose if they are trainable, they must. I'd love to know
      what
      > the chimp IQ is. Especially since they are able to duplicate human
      > communication, use tools, and plan for the future. It seems their
      IQ
      > must be somewhat measureable.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@ wrote:
      > >
      > > I believe there are psych tests that have been used on apes to
      test
      > their IQ.
      > > I think their IQ is next to ours followed by dolphins. Elaine
      > >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37718 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      I had a course in psychological testing and there are a few tests I can't see why apes can't do them. There are various tests with pictures. Elaine

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      Group: pota Message: 37719 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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       After dolphins, I think dogs are not far behind and some dogs have a higher IQ than our current president. Elaine
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      Group: pota Message: 37720 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      In a message dated 7/1/2006 3:01:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

      Aside from humans and apes, I believe dolphins are the only animals
      to recognize that the reflection of themselves in a mirror is in fact
      themselves.. .

       
      They've had a problem with that around here lately.  I've seen it in the news.
      A goat attacked the glass doors of a school and went on a tear in the lunch
      room.  Also peacocks.  There's only one female and five males.  It seems
      the residents have to put out mirrors for them the recognize themselves in.
      Otherwise they will attack their own reflections in their shiny new cars.
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 37721 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      In a message dated 7/1/2006 4:02:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, taebokitti@... writes:

       After dolphins, I think dogs are not far behind
      And pigs
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      Group: pota Message: 37722 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/1/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      Wait -- are you saying our president has a registerable IQ?...=)

      G

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
      >
      > After dolphins, I think dogs are not far behind and some dogs have a
      higher
      > IQ than our current president. Elaine
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37723 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2006
      Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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      Hello,

      This email message is a notification to let you know that
      a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
      group.

      File : /novabw.jpg
      Uploaded by : smugster2000 <smugster2000@...>
      Description : New Model kit (creator emailed, details to follow)

      You can access this file at the URL:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/novabw.jpg

      To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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      Regards,

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      Group: pota Message: 37724 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/2/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      In a message dated 7/1/2006 7:19:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, HotScheetz@... writes:

      Wait -- are you saying our president has a registerable IQ?...=)

      G
      I would be afraid to give him an IQ test, the results maybe scary. Elaine
      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, taebokitti@. .. wrote:
      >
      > After dolphins, I think dogs are not far behind and some dogs have a
      higher
      > IQ than our current president. Elaine
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 37725 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/2/2006
      Subject: Re: Ape Rights...IQ
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      In a message dated 7/1/2006 5:02:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

      In a message dated 7/1/2006 4:02:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, taebokitti@... writes:

       After dolphins, I think dogs are not far behind
      And pigs
      Pigs are suppose to be very smart. Elaine

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      Group: pota Message: 37726 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 7/2/2006
      Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
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      Where can I buy one of these for my Apes collection!!! That is a
      beauitful model of Nova
      John


      - In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
      >
      >
      > Hello,
      >
      > This email message is a notification to let you know that
      > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
      > group.
      >
      > File : /novabw.jpg
      > Uploaded by : smugster2000 <smugster2000@...>
      > Description : New Model kit (creator emailed, details to follow)
      >
      > You can access this file at the URL:
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/novabw.jpg
      >
      > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
      > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
      >
      > Regards,
      >
      > smugster2000 <smugster2000@...>
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 37727 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      I was up for Batman Begins until I read about the Tibet training bit
      and gave up on it totally.I like Batman and his story is so iconic that
      I don't want it infected with images that just don't ring true to me at
      all.So, never seen it! John, Scrolls.
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      Group: pota Message: 37728 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      In a message dated 7/3/2006 3:09:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:

      I was up for Batman Begins until I read about the Tibet training bit
      and gave up on it totally.I like Batman and his story is so iconic that
      I don't want it infected with images that just don't ring true to me at
      all.So, never seen it! John, Scrolls.

       
      Sounds like Rory.
      Condeming a film on the word of others.
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      Group: pota Message: 37729 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/3/2006
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      Well, it wasn't a review that turned me off to Batman Begins, but the
      advance knowledge(which we can't escape nowadays) of what the plot was
      to be.It just didn't feel true to my view of Batman's world---lots of
      people liked the movie, so I'm probably wrong.I just feel that there is
      tweaking, revising, re-imagining and then there's doing it right,
      faithfully, like Donner.John, Scrolls.
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      Group: pota Message: 37730 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      > Well, it wasn't a review that turned me off to Batman Begins, but the
      > advance knowledge(which we can't escape nowadays) of what the plot was
      > to be.It just didn't feel true to my view of Batman's world---lots of
      > people liked the movie, so I'm probably wrong.I just feel that there is
      > tweaking, revising, re-imagining and then there's doing it right,
      > faithfully, like Donner.John, Scrolls.

      It was faithful---to the animated series, which had Batman seeking
      training around the world....

      Hunter
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      Group: pota Message: 37731 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      I enjoyed it......and now they are playing it in our
      local IMAX theatre! That might be worth seeing!

      Tim

      --- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

      > > Well, it wasn't a review that turned me off to
      > Batman Begins, but the
      > > advance knowledge(which we can't escape nowadays)
      > of what the plot was
      > > to be.It just didn't feel true to my view of
      > Batman's world---lots of
      > > people liked the movie, so I'm probably wrong.I
      > just feel that there is
      > > tweaking, revising, re-imagining and then there's
      > doing it right,
      > > faithfully, like Donner.John, Scrolls.
      >
      > It was faithful---to the animated series, which had
      > Batman seeking
      > training around the world....
      >
      > Hunter
      >


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      Group: pota Message: 37732 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      I never read the comic books, so I had no preconceived
      notions about the origins.  My introduction to Batman
      was the TV show with Adam West.  No place to go but
      up from there. The movies went downhill, until this one.
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 37733 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/3/06 3:46:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:



      I never read the comic books, so I had no preconceived
      notions about the origins.  My introduction to Batman
      was the TV show with Adam West.  No place to go but
      up from there. The movies went downhill, until this one.




      Personally, I prefer the Adam West BATMAN to all others.  It's '60s, and it's Fox.  And besides, what are we supposed to do -- take BATMAN seriously, as some kind of high art?!!!  Grow up!  It's silly nonsense!

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 37734 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/3/06 10:59:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:


      In a message dated 7/3/2006 3:09:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:

      I was up for Batman Begins until I read about the Tibet training bit
      and gave up on it totally.I like Batman and his story is so iconic that
      I don't want it infected with images that just don't ring true to me at
      all.So, never seen it! John, Scrolls.







      Sounds like Rory.
      Condeming a film on the word of others.




      Hey!  You got a point, T, other than the one on the top of your head?

      I listen to critics, and if most say a movie stinks, well I figure "Where there's smoke, there must be fire."

      By the way, I liked BATMAN BEGINS.  Didn't think it was great, but it didn't suck.

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 37735 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/3/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/3/06 11:38:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, john@... writes:


      Well, it wasn't a review that turned me off to Batman Begins, but the
      advance knowledge(which we can't escape nowadays) of what the plot was
      to be.It just didn't feel true to my view of Batman's world---lots of
      people liked the movie, so I'm probably wrong.I just feel that there is
      tweaking, revising, re-imagining and then there's doing it right,
      faithfully, like Donner.John, Scrolls.





      Dude!  Burton's BATMAN sucked!

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 37736 From: Dave B Date: 7/4/2006
      Subject: New Nova kit
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      Here's some more info on that Nova kit,

      Dave

      "Thanks so much for the interest in Nova. Size is about 1/5 scale.
      Here, in the USA, the kit price is $135.00 plus shipping.
      International shipping depending on where too, would be between $20.00
      and $50.00. I do take Paypal for payment or money order. If you have
      anymore questions just let me know. Again thanks...."

      Bill Wieger

      <bill@...>
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      Group: pota Message: 37737 From: Dave B Date: 7/4/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      I thought Batman begins was very, very, good right up until Bruce
      actually became Batman - then, with the extended car-chase it became
      just another Batman movie.

      But if Director, Nolan and Star, Bale ever decided to tackle POTA I
      would expect to see the intensity of passion and respect the franchise
      deserves.

      Dave
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      Group: pota Message: 37738 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/4/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      Rory, I agree that the celluloid versions of Batman might have
      been 'silly nonsense' but the modern comics definitely aren't.They're
      amongst the more adult mainstream comics.Alan Moore's 'Killing Joke'had
      the Joker shoot Commisioner Gordon's daughter through the spine, strip
      her, humiliate her and photograph her to make a point.The Joker and
      Batman collapse laughing at the end because the insanity of life is
      just laughable.Frank Miller's 'Dark Knight' opus is not kiddie reading--
      it's far better than Sin City in my opinion.Grant Morrison's 'Arkham
      Asylum', where Batman enters an institution for the criminally insane
      and has to face his own demons is one of the most disturbing things
      I've ever read.The true Batman is a psychological journey, not Adam
      West.John, Scrolls.
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      Group: pota Message: 37739 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/4/2006
      Subject: Re: Tim Burton (OT)
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      The critics liked this one, but it was good in spite of them.


      Hey!  You got a point, T, other than the one on the top of your head?

      I listen to critics, and if most say a movie stinks, well I figure "Where there's smoke, there must be fire."

      By the way, I liked BATMAN BEGINS.  Didn't think it was great, but it didn't suck.
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 37740 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/4/2006
      Subject: Revolution #5 in comic shops this week
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      The official ship list for comics due in shops this week has been posted on Diamond Comic Distributors website. Revolution on the Planet of the Apes issue 5 is listed, so it will be in shops this week (except, I'm sure, for my local shop, which hasn't gotten an issue the same week as the rest of the country yet for some reason).
       
       
      Because of the July 4th holiday, new comics will probably be out on Thursday rather than Wednesday here in the U.S. You should check with your local shop to be sure.
       
      Greg
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      Group: pota Message: 37741 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/4/2006
      Subject: Apes Arena
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      Is the arena in The Gladiators the same one as in Planet and Beneath? I
      seem to recall it was built specially for the tv series but I may well
      be wrong--the topography looks different to the movies, however.John,
      Scrolls.
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      Group: pota Message: 37742 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/4/2006
      Subject: deleted scene pics
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      Attachments :
        There are two sets of pics up on eba (1 day left) that
        include pics of deleted scenes.....is anyone here
        bidding on these?

        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150003438582&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150003441178&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

        There's an Escape pic of inside the cockpit, and one
        of military surrounding Zira's body.....

        Tim

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        Group: pota Message: 37743 From: Zachary Scott Date: 7/4/2006
        Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
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        This is just why we all need to bug FOX about putting those deleted scenes from ESCAPE together and issuing them on another "special features" DVD one day!
         
        Zach 
         
        -------Original Message-------
         
        From: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Date: 07/04/06 14:01:38
        Subject: [POTA] deleted scene pics
         

        There are two sets of pics up on eba (1 day left) that
        include pics of deleted scenes.....is anyone here
        bidding on these?

        http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll?ViewItem& ih=005&item= 150003438582& rd=1&sspagename= STRK%3AMEWA% 3AIT&rd=1

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        Group: pota Message: 37744 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/4/2006
        Subject: Re: Apes Arena
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        .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/4/06 11:56:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, john@... writes:


        Is the arena in The Gladiators the same one as in Planet and Beneath? I
        seem to recall it was built specially for the tv series but I may well
        be wrong--the topography looks different to the movies, however.John,
        Scrolls.






        Looks like the same one to me.  In the same spot too.

        -- Rory
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        Group: pota Message: 37745 From: James Date: 7/4/2006
        Subject: Re: Revolution #5 in comic shops this week
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        That's great news. I for one can't wait to read the next chapter.


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
        >
        > The official ship list for comics due in shops this week has been
        posted on Diamond Comic Distributors website. Revolution on the
        Planet of the Apes issue 5 is listed, so it will be in shops this
        week (except, I'm sure, for my local shop, which hasn't gotten an
        issue the same week as the rest of the country yet for some reason).
        >
        > http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/shipping_070506.txt
        >
        > Because of the July 4th holiday, new comics will probably be out
        on Thursday rather than Wednesday here in the U.S. You should check
        with your local shop to be sure.
        >
        > Greg
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 37746 From: James Date: 7/4/2006
        Subject: Re: Apes Arena
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        I believe it is the same structure. The only reason the topography
        looks wrong is that the rest of Ape City was gone by that point and the
        area was over-grown. But if you look in the background in some shots
        you can see the river.

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
        >
        > Is the arena in The Gladiators the same one as in Planet and Beneath?
        I
        > seem to recall it was built specially for the tv series but I may
        well
        > be wrong--the topography looks different to the movies, however.John,
        > Scrolls.
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 37747 From: James Date: 7/4/2006
        Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
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        According to some, there is a wealth of rare footage and stills in
        FOX's vaults. They just need someone willing to search for it all and
        pull it together.


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zachary Scott" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
        >
        > This is just why we all need to bug FOX about putting those deleted
        scenes
        > from ESCAPE together and issuing them on another "special features"
        DVD one
        > day!
        >
        >
        >
        > Zach
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 37748 From: Dave B Date: 7/5/2006
        Subject: Re: Revolution #5 in comic shops this week
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        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
        >
        > That's great news. I for one can't wait to read the next chapter.

        I'm just as much looking forward to the back-up strip, the whole book
        is a real showcase.

        Dave
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        Group: pota Message: 37749 From: Dave B Date: 7/5/2006
        Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
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        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
        >
        > According to some, there is a wealth of rare footage and stills in
        > FOX's vaults. They just need someone willing to search for it all and
        > pull it together.

        I seem to recall Brian Pendreigh, author of 'The Legend of the POTA'
        offered to do just that but was denied permission. Of course this was
        at a time when Fox were promoting 'Apes 2001' and were trying to
        pretend the originals didn't exist.

        Dave
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        Group: pota Message: 37750 From: Zachary Scott Date: 7/5/2006
        Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
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          I have heard that name...Brian Pendreigh.
           
          Why in the world would FOX pretend that the originals didn't exist...the first APES back in '68 made them millions of dollars!  The originals were, and still are, the best...
           
          Zach      
           
          -------Original Message-------
           
          From: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Date: 07/05/06 01:54:07
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [POTA] Re: deleted scene pics
           

          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "James" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote:

          >
          > According to some, there is a wealth of rare footage and stills in
          > FOX's vaults. They just need someone willing to search for it all and
          > pull it together.

          I seem to recall Brian Pendreigh, author of 'The Legend of the POTA'
          offered to do just that but was denied permission. Of course this was
          at a time when Fox were promoting 'Apes 2001' and were trying to
          pretend the originals didn't exist.

          Dave

           
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          Group: pota Message: 37751 From: Zachary Scott Date: 7/5/2006
          Subject: Re: deleted scene pics
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            Well it would be certainly nice if they would! 
             
            Zach   
             
            -------Original Message-------
             
            From: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Date: 07/04/06 22:03:57
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [POTA] Re: deleted scene pics
             

            According to some, there is a wealth of rare footage and stills in
            FOX's vaults. They just need someone willing to search for it all and
            pull it together.

            --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Zachary Scott" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote:
            >
            > This is just why we all need to bug FOX about putting those deleted
            scenes
            > from ESCAPE together and issuing them on another "special features"
            DVD one
            > day!
            >
            >
            >
            > Zach
            >

             
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            Group: pota Message: 37752 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/5/2006
            Subject: Marvel UK issue 90
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            I think the title to this week's installment says it all: "Up the Nose-Tube to Monkey-Trash." If that title doesn't motivate you to download issue 90 of the Marvel UK series from Hunter's site, then I don't know what will.
             
            No letter page this week, but there is a bonus pin-up.
             
             
            Thanks,
            Greg
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