In a message dated 8/28/2006 10:05:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bikergator25@ yahoo.com writes:

But , will he murder for the DVD of POTA 2001

Only in utter desperation for anything POTA.

 

 

"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.

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>
> In science fiction, to my mind anyway, the three biggies have always
> been Apes, Star Trek and Star Wars.I would suggest that of the three,
> Star Wars is the weakest, really only being one film of any note,

> five cash ins of steadly more diluted crap.Star Trek is weightier,

> excrutiatingly formulaic and, again, the later incarnations are pale
> shadows of what went before.I honestly feel that Apes is better
> written, better directed, better acted, both in its film and

> guises, and id a far,far superior franchise to the other eye candy,
> glossy franchises.I think the quality of Apes will endure longer than
> the others because, quite simply, it is the best.By a mile.John,
> Scrolls.
>

>
> In science fiction, to my mind anyway, the three biggies have always
> been Apes, Star Trek and Star Wars.I would suggest that of the three,
> Star Wars is the weakest, really only being one film of any note,

> five cash ins of steadly more diluted crap.Star Trek is weightier,

> excrutiatingly formulaic and, again, the later incarnations are pale
> shadows of what went before.I honestly feel that Apes is better
> written, better directed, better acted, both in its film and

> guises, and id a far,far superior franchise to the other eye candy,
> glossy franchises.I think the quality of Apes will endure longer than
> the others because, quite simply, it is the best.By a mile.John,
> Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> In science fiction, to my mind anyway, the three biggies have always
> been Apes, Star Trek and Star Wars.I would suggest that of the three,
> Star Wars is the weakest, really only being one film of any note,
with
> five cash ins of steadly more diluted crap.Star Trek is weightier,
but
> excrutiatingly formulaic and, again, the later incarnations are pale
> shadows of what went before.I honestly feel that Apes is better
> written, better directed, better acted, both in its film and
television
> guises, and id a far,far superior franchise to the other eye candy,
> glossy franchises.I think the quality of Apes will endure longer than
> the others because, quite simply, it is the best.By a mile.John,
> Scrolls.
>

Tyne Daly was hot -- THIRTY-SIX YEARS AGO!  She made a movie with Eric Breaden where they got it on BIG TIME!  Anyone know the name of it? (I do, of course.)

 

-- Rory 

 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: goathunter@goatley. com
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: (OT) Star Trek/POTA links

> > I despise Kate Mulgrew (always have)

> Despise?!!!! What did she ever do to you?!!!! Rape you're dog or something?
> DESPISE!

8-) There are a handful of actresses who just give me the
heebie-jeebies: Kate Mulgree, Tyne Daly, Swoosie Kurtz, Dixie
Carter.... I can't stand to look at them or listen to them....

Hunter

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> The entire seven year story arc that encompassed Deep
> Space Nine is probably the best writing a Sci-Fi series ever had to offer
> in the television format.

>
>
> > I've always felt that if it weren't for the success of the Apes

> > (proving that Sci-Fi could make descent money at the Box Office),

> > never greenlit Star Wars. And the success of Star Wars is what

> > the motivation to resurrect Star Trek, so both owe a debt to

> > Century Fox.
>
> I doubt you'll ever get the people behind either to admit anything

>
> >
> > I do have to disagree with you a bit on the Trek stuff getting

> > went along. The entire seven year story arc that encompassed Deep

> > is probably the best writing a Sci-Fi series ever had to offer in

> > television format.
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
>
> STAR TREK is very uneven. Some of the movies are good, some are

> just downright bad. Same with the various episodes of each series.
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> Let's face it...
> We all have our favorites, right?
> I loved Star Wars and couldn't see it enough at the movies...
> It was fresh...
> New...
> Something I (and a lot of us) had never experienced before...
> Now, it's been a few since I have jumped into such debates, but
> for any of us who actually saw the arrival of Star Wars, we will
> stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Luke, Leah, Han Solo, and Chewbacca
> (not to mention 3PO and R2).
> I love the Apes as much as you and I can say Star Trek never

> a thing for me, but Star Wars did...
> George Lucas opened a book of dreams that we could all

> and strand together into whatever fantasy we wanted to

> A planet of Apes or a planet of Llamas...
> Or a planet of whatever we dreamed up...Pierre Boulle opened the
> door to the Apes and George Lucas opened one to a realm where we
> could expand and believe that somewhere in a galaxy far far away...
> We could dream............
>

Hey everyone. Today the POTA group celebrates it's 8th birthday.

The end of summer 1998 was a great time for POTAdom. The AMC marathon reinvigorated the franchise and Dave Pasco founded our little group. We've had our up and downs over the years but now we are stronger than ever.

And instead of just one day of celebration we've decided to make it a birthday weekend. Tomorrow there will be a special LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER. On Saturday we'll be starting a 3 day contest with some cool prizes.

More on the contest and other prizes tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone here for making this such a great group. Happy Birthday!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Watching Beneath recently, I noticed that the colour coding theme for
> the Mutant clothing is extensive--as well as the five colours for the
> Inquisitors, their benches in the Cathedral have cushions in their
> individual colours--the yellow Jailor/Negro has a yellow cushion on
his
> seat, whereas Jeff Corey's is green, Albina's blue etc.It's
interesting
> that the 'heavies', the guards who imprison people, have a yellow
flash
> on the front--denoting maybe that their group/class is directly mind
> linked to Don Pedro's mutant,who seems to be in charge of jails and
> such? John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I loved the first Star Wars--it was the ape-like Chewie that first
> intrigued me and I was hooked real quick.It didn't last in my mind
> like Apes, possibly because I feel the sequels to Star Wars, all
> of 'em, were weak attempts to mine out the good seam in the original,
> to the point where even the original collapses.Apes managed to re-
> invent itself and build on the premise with each new movie and
> remaims, I feel, the only true sci fi saga in cinema history.Not
> everyone will agree with me, but I feel the four sequels enhance
> viewing of the original--something that's not true for Star
> Wars.John, Scrolls.
> >

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/30/2006 9:15:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> goathunter@... writes:
>
> They were making it all up as they went along---there was no
grand story arc
> to the show
>
>
>
> Sounds a lot like POTA to me.
> There never was a "Grand Story Arc" to it,
> so much as it was jig-sawed together, like
> a quilt -- and one full of holes at that. Not
> that there's anything wrong with that. But
> it probably would have fit together better
> if it wasn't. But who knew it would go
> four sequels? Nobody, that's who!
>

I loved the first Star Wars--it was the ape-like Chewie that first
intrigued me and I was hooked real quick.It didn't last in my mind
like Apes, possibly because I feel the sequels to Star Wars, all
of 'em, were weak attempts to mine out the good seam in the original,
to the point where even the original collapses.Apes managed to re-
invent itself and build on the premise with each new movie and
remaims, I feel, the only true sci fi saga in cinema history.Not
everyone will agree with me, but I feel the four sequels enhance
viewing of the original--something that's not true for Star
Wars.John, Scrolls.
>
> Let's face it...
> We all have our favorites, right?
> I loved Star Wars and couldn't see it enough at the movies...
> It was fresh...
> New...
> Something I (and a lot of us) had never experienced before...
> Now, it's been a few since I have jumped into such debates, but
> for any of us who actually saw the arrival of Star Wars, we will
> stand shoulder-to- shoulder with Luke, Leah, Han Solo, and Chewbacca
> (not to mention 3PO and R2).
> I love the Apes as much as you and I can say Star Trek never
did
> a thing for me, but Star Wars did...
> George Lucas opened a book of dreams that we could all
understand
> and strand together into whatever fantasy we wanted to
create...Beit
> A planet of Apes or a planet of Llamas...
> Or a planet of whatever we dreamed up...Pierre Boulle opened the
> door to the Apes and George Lucas opened one to a realm where we
> could expand and believe that somewhere in a galaxy far far away...
> We could dream....... .....
>

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> You're wrong part 2. The Serializing and story arcing of DS9 started with
> the first season, if you'd watched THE ENTIRE series, you'd know that.
> But since you didn't your opinion is uninformed.

> The shirts at Paramount didn't like

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone. Today the POTA group celebrates it's 8th birthday.
>
> The end of summer 1998 was a great time for POTAdom. The AMC
marathon
> reinvigorated the franchise and Dave Pasco founded our little
group.
> We've had our up and downs over the years but now we are stronger
than
> ever.
>
> And instead of just one day of celebration we've decided to make
it a
> birthday weekend. Tomorrow there will be a special LESSON FROM THE
> LAWGIVER. On Saturday we'll be starting a 3 day contest with some
cool
> prizes.
>
>
>
> More on the contest and other prizes tomorrow.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I picked up #121 of Famous Monsters this week, not realising there
was
> any Apes in it.There's a long obit for Rod Serling in which it
mentions
> that his first teleplay was for Playhouse 90 in 1958, a
dramatization
> of Pat Frank's sci fi novel, 'Forbidden Area'(!), a work which
dealt
> with 'the Atomic Age pushed to its limits of sanity' as Atomi-
geddon
> threatened to engulf the world in nuclear holocaust'.Sounds vaguely
> familiar, somehow! Anybody got the novel or know if this episode is
> available anywhere? John, Scrolls.
>

>>Watching Beneath recently, I noticed that the colour coding theme

>>

>>Oh, please. First, there was no story arc until they started

>>> The entire seven year story arc that encompassed Deep
>

> in the television format. <<

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> I know I've read somewhere that Lucas acknowledged the success of
POTA
> helping push things along with Star Wars (John Roche mentioned this
as
> well). Not sure about Roddenberry/Paramount fessing up though. Any
> diehard Trek fans here that would know? Maybe there's something on
the
> commentary track for the special edition of the first film?
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Haristas@..." Haristas@... wrote:
>
> >>I doubt you'll ever get the people behind either to admit
anything like
> that. <<
>
>
> "Chris" lawford42@... wrote:
>
> >>I've always felt that if it weren't for the success of the Apes
films
> (proving that Sci-Fi could make descent money at the Box Office),
Fox
> would have
> never greenlit Star Wars. And the success of Star Wars is what gave
> Paramount
> the motivation to resurrect Star Trek, so both owe a debt to Jacobs
and
> 20th
> Century Fox. <<
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> We've been talking here about STAR TREK here and now get a load of
the news
> item below from www.thedigitalbits.com:
>
> Here's the text of CBS Paramount Domestic Television's official
press release
> on the Star Trek CG upgrade:
>
>
> Ok, this may upset some trekkers here, but I'm very interested in
seeing
> this.
>
> We've talked about this before in regards to the APES films and now
I have to
> wonder if someday it could happen (though I rather doubt it).
>
> If Fox were to "digitally enhance" APES, what would your reaction
be?
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> The original screenplay was pretty specific about the colors (what

> with you wacky Brits tossing the letter 'u' into everything?) of

> character's robes. The bench cushions in the Cathedral matching the

> scheme of each Mutant's clothing I've always chalked up to excellent
> attention to detail with the production design, who also took the

> hide inverted crosses throughout the underground city, make a

> unique busts for the entire Mendez dynasty, and so forth.
>
> For a lot of reasons, BENEATH is visually a very stunning film.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "shanter2002" john@... wrote:
>
> >>Watching Beneath recently, I noticed that the colour coding theme

> the Mutant clothing is extensive--as well as the five colours for

> Inquisitors, their benches in the Cathedral have cushions in their
> individual colours--the yellow Jailor/Negro has a yellow cushion on

> seat, whereas Jeff Corey's is green, Albina's blue etc.It's

> that the 'heavies', the guards who imprison people, have a yellow

> on the front--denoting maybe that their group/class is directly

> linked to Don Pedro's mutant,who seems to be in charge of jails and

> >>
>

>
> These weren't mentioned (or shown) in the movie, but Michael

> adaptation of BENEATH mentions the color schemes in this fashion.

> quoting directly from the novel that I have with me.
>
>
>
> This is from Chapter 9: "Mendez".
>
>
>
> Brent saw a magnificent Negro, robed all in white, his onyx face

> in contrast with his garments. He saw a mountainous Fat Man,

> cool, garbed in red robes. To Mendez' left, there was a woman--a

> beautiful woman, whose ivory face rose like an orchid from a gown

> blue. To Mendez' right, a green-robed elder-statesman type--very

> the mysterious verger--squatted prominently. But unlike his

> this one was almost charming and cheerful in demeanor. Brent was

> of a Puck, grown to ancient years. (Mendez himself was clad in

> purple robes.)
>
>
>
> All five of these phantasmagorical figures struck Brent like some

> concatenation of Rembrandt's famous Syndics Of The Cloth Guild.

> terrible difference of an imposed horror. And the fantasy of the

>
>
>
> He waited, wondering, trying to control the fear moving like a

> stomach.
>
>
>
> He didn't realize that the five seated figures, looking down, could

> directly. Or that if they looked straight ahead, they could see,

> on the opposite wall, the visual impress of their own thought

> Brent had no way of knowing into what technological wonderworld he

> stumbled, though his encounter with the verger had given him some

> notice of the miracles to be found in this strange city.
>
>
>
> Each "wall image" was projected in color to identify the sender.

> white for the Negro, blue for the beautiful girl, red for the fat

> for the puckish statesman type. And purple for Mendez himself.

> was yet to learn, for he could not see the wall behind him.
>
>
>
> Nor could he yet fully understand the traumatic hypnosis that the

> this civilization could inflict upon him. As they had done with

> water fountain in that episode with Nova. Brent's own stubbornness

> bring on such an attack.
>
>
>
> The practitioner merely had to close his eyes, project to the wall

> own color scheme, and Brent would remain in pain and agony until the
> particular inquisitor opened his eyes.
>
>
>
> This was the mad world into which Brent had all unknowingly

> phenomenon of A.D. 3955!
>
>
>
> Brent felt himself the target of Mendez, the Negro, the woman, the

> and the elder statesman.
>
>
>
> Now, this occurred in the movie: The adaptation goes on to mention

>
>
>
> As the interview progressed [Brent's interrogation], a pattern

> become very clear. The fat man probed for facts; the woman for

> feelings, the elder statesman for beliefs and feelings. The Negro

> no questions at all. He was there merely to induce pain; the

> the workings of man's conscience. Brent only sensed all this. He

> have said where the knowledge came from.
>
>
>
> Mr. Avallone described the mutant interrogation scene pretty good.

> with you, Chris, BENEATH was a very visually dynamic and stunning

> But...to be honest, regarding Avallone's book, it was the only

> that didn't have too many flaws. Have any Apesters read the book

> recently?
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 08/31/06 20:10:44
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Colour Coded Mutants
>
>
>
> The original screenplay was pretty specific about the colors (what

> with you wacky Brits tossing the letter 'u' into everything?) of

> character's robes. The bench cushions in the Cathedral matching the

> scheme of each Mutant's clothing I've always chalked up to excellent
> attention to detail with the production design, who also took the

> hide inverted crosses throughout the underground city, make a

> unique busts for the entire Mendez dynasty, and so forth.
>
>
>
> For a lot of reasons, BENEATH is visually a very stunning film.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "shanter2002" john@... wrote:
>
>
>
> >>Watching Beneath recently, I noticed that the colour coding theme

>
> the Mutant clothing is extensive--as well as the five colours for

>
> Inquisitors, their benches in the Cathedral have cushions in their
>
> individual colours--the yellow Jailor/Negro has a yellow cushion on

>
> seat, whereas Jeff Corey's is green, Albina's blue etc.It's

>
> that the 'heavies', the guards who imprison people, have a yellow

>
> on the front--denoting maybe that their group/class is directly

>
> linked to Don Pedro's mutant,who seems to be in charge of jails and

>

This week's special LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to Glen & Dave and everyone else who contributed.

To access the Lesson just click the banner on the Yahoo Home Page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

Be sure to come back tomorrow for the first part of our Birthday contest where you could win prizes such as a Mike Ploog autograph

Or a set of Graham Hill cards

Or an ANSA hat!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/12/06 7:39:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> apecalypsenow@... writes:
>
>
> > I'm disappointed, quite frankly. We should do a new petition for
> > future DVD releases.
> >
> > T.C.
> >
>
> Yeah, start on it now because in a couple years it's all going to
be Blu-ray
> HD stuff.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/1/06 5:38:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> apecalypsenow@... writes:
>
>
> > Please,
> >
> > What's the BOTTOM LINE? Is 'BENEATH' screwed-up forever now?
> > LIGHTER ----> how much lighter than the original rendition? Is
the
> > movie wasted now?
> >
> > Still perplexed.
> >
> > T.C.
> >
>
> OK, now imagine it's Charlton Heston screaming this at you right
now....
>
> GOOOODDDD DAMN IT TO HEEEEELLLLLLL!!!!! WILL YOU JUST GO BUY THE
DAMN THINGS
> ALREADY, YOU BLOODY PUSSY!
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Rory
>

>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/31/2006 9:14:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> lawford42@... writes:
>
> I know I've read somewhere that Lucas acknowledged the success of

> helping push things along with Star Wars (John Roche mentioned

> sure about Roddenberry/Paramount fessing up though. Any diehard

> here that would know? Maybe there's something on the commentary

> special edition of the first film?
>
>
>
> Apes had nothing to do with Star Trek being made into a movie. The

> of Star Wars did. However, at the time Trek was going to go

> TV, with a new pilot (original cast though) under the title: Star

> episode was called "In Thy Image". Of course Paramount upped the

> went the film route, and Roddenberry (ripping off The Changeling

> Machine) made Star Trek The Motion(less) Picture, which

> franchise anew.
> ST2 is way better than the dull Star Trek The Motion Picture.
>
>
> "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear

> people."
> V For Vendetta.
>

WOW!  John Scrolls, I hadn't paid that much attention... until now.  You're right!   Zach      -------Original Message----- --   From: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: 09/02/06 07:56:33 To: pota@yahoogroups. com Subject: [POTA] Ape Glyphs   The glyphs on the Minister in Beneath seem to be the same as the images on the banners of the gorilla army that invades the forbidden zone--- I've always been intrigued by the idea that, for his own purposes, and with the collusion of people in religion, like the Minister, Ursus was warping the Ape faith to justify his 'jehad' into the Forbidden Zone.Nothing like that happens nowadays, than goodness. John Scrolls.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/2/06 5:44:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> apecalypsenow@... writes:
>
>
> > I'm in Italy. They haven't released them here yet, and will not
do
> > it for a long long long time. The series has been already
released
> > many years ago on DVD.
> >
> > THEN? SCREWED UP?
> >
> > T.C.
> >
>
> This is the last time I'm going to respond to you -- BECAUSE
YOU'RE GETTING
> ON MY NERVES!
>
> If you can't or don't want to buy these things because you're in
Italy, WHY
> DO YOU KEEP ASKING ABOUT THEM?!!!! What does it matter?
>
> We've already told you a couple of times already -- not perfect
but mostly
> OK, 98% fine and dandy, and the 2% that ain't, AIN'T unwatchable.
>
> Now, either get your ass back here to watch APES on DVD or GET
LOST!!!!
>
> I just don't believe this guy! Have a nice day!
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 9/2/2006 9:55:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> Dude
>
>
>
> Are you sure TDH is a Dude?
> That's a bit sexist isn't it?
>

The theme of this year's contest is comics. We are going to test your knowledge of POTA comics through the decades.

Here's how the contest will work. There will be a total of 15 questions, 5 per day over the next 3 days. Today's 5 questions are about Marvel's POTA comics in the '70.

Whoever is the first to correctly answer all or most of the 5 questions each day will win the daily prize: your choice of a Rarities DVD or an ANSA hat.

To win First Place overall you have to be the first to correctly answer all or most of all 15 questions. There will also be a Second Place winner.

Now don't worry if you miss a day. The previous day(s) questions will still be available to answer each day of the contest. So even if you don't enter until Monday you still have a chance if you can answer all 15 questions correctly in one shot.

For First and Second place we have three great prizes for the winners to choose from. The prizes are:

• Mike Ploog's autograph 
• A set of Graham Hill cards
• The full Revolution series comic with Issue 1 autographed by Ty Templeton

Thanks to our friends from MR Comics and Sacred Scrolls for providing these prizes.

The First Place winner will have first choice of one of the three prizes and the Second Place winner will choose from the remaining two. The last remaining prize will be awarded to the First Place winner.

To enter just click this Link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Contest.htm

Good Luck Everyone!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 9/2/2006 9:56:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> Now go get that help you need, you nut!
>
>
>
>
> Takes one to know one.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/billtomlinson/newtt.html"
>
> According to him, paradoxes are not possible, just alternative
> universes.
>
> T.C.
>