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Group: pota Message: 38959 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution #6 in stores next week
Group: pota Message: 38960 From: robert.mansell@tiscali.co.uk Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38961 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Cartoon series from Fox on DVD
Group: pota Message: 38962 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38963 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution #6 in stores next week
Group: pota Message: 38964 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 38965 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38966 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38967 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38968 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38970 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38971 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38972 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38973 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38974 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38975 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38976 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Cartoon series from Fox on DVD
Group: pota Message: 38977 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38978 From: hotscheetz Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38979 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38980 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38981 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38982 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38983 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38984 From: drhasslein Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38985 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38986 From: Dave B Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38987 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38988 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38989 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38990 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38991 From: jose ramon Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38992 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38993 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38994 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38995 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38996 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38997 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Return DVD
Group: pota Message: 38998 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 38999 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39000 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39001 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Apes Rarities
Group: pota Message: 39002 From: The Soft Parade Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: gorilla shot
Group: pota Message: 39003 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39004 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39005 From: drhasslein Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39006 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39007 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39008 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39009 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39010 From: Dave B Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39011 From: Dave B Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39012 From: Dave B Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39013 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39014 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39015 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39016 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39017 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39018 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39019 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39020 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39021 From: jose ramon Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Frank the gorilla
Group: pota Message: 39022 From: handleyr@optonline.net Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2755
Group: pota Message: 39023 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39024 From: Chris Lawless Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: new scans available
Group: pota Message: 39025 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974 ,
Group: pota Message: 39026 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974 ,
Group: pota Message: 39027 From: James Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
Group: pota Message: 39028 From: Dave B Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
Group: pota Message: 39029 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 100
Group: pota Message: 39030 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 100
Group: pota Message: 39031 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 39032 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Birthday Contest
Group: pota Message: 39033 From: hotscheetz Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
Group: pota Message: 39034 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 39035 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
Group: pota Message: 39036 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 39037 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 39038 From: James Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Birthday Contest
Group: pota Message: 39039 From: drhasslein Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 39040 From: Dave B Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
Group: pota Message: 39041 From: Zachary Scott Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
Group: pota Message: 39042 From: jose ramon Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
Group: pota Message: 39043 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Idiocracy
Group: pota Message: 39044 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 39045 From: Graham Hill Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Birthday Contest
Group: pota Message: 39046 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Return to the POTA DVDs
Group: pota Message: 39047 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
Group: pota Message: 39048 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
Group: pota Message: 39049 From: Mike R Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
Group: pota Message: 39050 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39051 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
Group: pota Message: 39052 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39053 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
Group: pota Message: 39054 From: James Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Revolution #6
Group: pota Message: 39055 From: James Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: new scans available
Group: pota Message: 39056 From: James Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 100
Group: pota Message: 39057 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
Group: pota Message: 39058 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 9/15/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs



Group: pota Message: 38959 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution #6 in stores next week
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Ty, as I always explain to my wife on a Saturday night, anything
worth having is worth waiting for!! Looking forward to it big time.
And the comic. John, Scrolls.
>
> Oh, hey...that's good. I'm glad it's getting out SOMEDAY.
>
> Man, we had that ready to go a MONTH ago...sheesh!
>
> Well, let me know what you think of it when you get it guys...
>
> Ty
>
> On 9/7/06, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
> >
> > <http://www.mrcomics.ca/mrcomicsnews.html">
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" tybunny@ wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > But it's on the way, and should be out either today or next
> > > wednesday. (I'm
> > > > assuming overseas gets it next week.)
> > > >
> > > > Ty
> > >
> > > Good things come to he who waits...
> > >
> > > BTW the cover art for issue 6 can be seen at:
<http://www.mrcomics.ca/>
> > >
> > > It looks like those maniacs finally, really, did it!
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 38960 From: robert.mansell@tiscali.co.uk Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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Pamela Anderson then....

Robert Mansell

>-- Original Message --
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>From: "shanter2002" <john@...>
>Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:47:40 -0000
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>'' No disrespect to Linda Harrison, but any hot
> young brunette with any acting chops whatsoever can play Nova.''--
>'Acting chops'?That must be an American term--we call them 'tits' over
>here in the UK. John, Scrolls.
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 38961 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Cartoon series from Fox on DVD
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Oddly the Fox online store is still saying 10/3 as the release date
for the toons. I wonder if Amazon got an early shipment.

Also, the Fox Store has the TV Series being re-released on 10/3 as
well. If anyone picks up a copy please let us know if it is any
different from the previous release.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads up--I just ordered mine. The packaging looks
cool,
> it's a release we've asked for for years, and it aint expensive,
so
> let's get buying folks. John, Scrolls.
> >
> > I'm not sure, but I just ordered the POTA cartoon series Fox DVD
on
> Amazon -- and I think it's available now!
> >
> > Check it out!
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>
_________
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Group: pota Message: 38962 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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If the criteria is a hot babe in her 20s, I'd vote for either Jessica
Biel or Scarlett Johansson.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 9/6/2006 10:58:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Mithril1960@... writes:
>
> Patricia Velazquez is far from too old to play Nova.
>
>
> To me a woman in her 30's playing a woman in her 20's is like
> a woman in her 20's playing a woman in her teens. Sure, she
> can get away with it, but you can only stretch my suspension
> of disbelief so far. If you have to spackle the cracks with make
> up, she's too old. No disrespect to Linda Harrison, but any hot
> young brunette with any acting chops whatsoever can play Nova.
>
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Group: pota Message: 38963 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution #6 in stores next week
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Thanks Ty. Unfortunately it still isn't available yet on Altered States
website. We'll keep you posted.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, hey...that's good. I'm glad it's getting out SOMEDAY.
>
> Man, we had that ready to go a MONTH ago...sheesh!
>
> Well, let me know what you think of it when you get it guys...
>
> Ty
>
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Group: pota Message: 38964 From: James Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
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This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to all who contributed.

To view the Lession click the link on Yahoo Home Page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm

Have a great weekend everyone!

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Group: pota Message: 38965 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:

> '' No disrespect to Linda Harrison, but any hot
> young brunette with any acting chops whatsoever can
> play Nova.''--
> 'Acting chops'?That must be an American term--we
> call them 'tits' over
> here in the UK. John, Scrolls.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 38966 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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"Daena" from POTA 2001 (whose name completely escapes
me at the moment...i know I'll think of it as soon as
I hit send!!.) was damn hot but had no
"chops"..."tits" yes!!! =)

Tim

--- shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:

> '' No disrespect to Linda Harrison, but any hot
> young brunette with any acting chops whatsoever can
> play Nova.''--
> 'Acting chops'?That must be an American term--we
> call them 'tits' over
> here in the UK. John, Scrolls.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 38967 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/8/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/8/2006 5:47:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
"Daena" from POTA 2001
Estella "My Makeup stayed perfect for this whole sh*tty movie" Warren?
Forget it. She had her chance. Exit stage left.
 
 
"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."

V - V for Vendetta
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Group: pota Message: 38968 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/8/2006 5:48:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:
'Acting chops'?That must be an American term--we call them 'tits' over
here in the UK. John, Scrolls.
 
Yeah, that, and that too.
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Group: pota Message: 38969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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.html.htmlBack in the late 70s when I first got HBO and starting seeing a lot of Foreign films, I thought Gerard Depardieu would be good as Ulysse Merou.  Of course, he's way too old -- and fat -- now.  But, I think Merou would have to be played by a Frenchmen.

As for the apes... If I were the director, I think I'd want the apes to look as much like real apes as possible, and I don't think that's possible just with actors wearing foam latex appliances.  So, I would insist on the main apes being a combination of actors and animatronics,like Harry in HARRY AND THE HENDERSONS.  The voice talent would be supplied by name actors, but the actor inside would be anonymous.

Background apes, such as in the hunt or in city scenes, or in the assembly when Merou gives his address, would be largely CGI.

Another thing I would insist on is that the humans be naked.  Now that doesn't mean I want the audience to constantly have to look at genitals.  The actors would have to be carefully shot so as to have their privates always in shadow or covered by some object in the foreground, but you'd definitely get a lot of T & A in the movie. 

Yes, I've dreamed of this ever since I first read the book, but I've given up all hope of ever seeing any such movie!

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 38970 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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Yes! Although she wasn't half bad on "Law & Order:
SVU" opposite Lynda Carter in a mother/daughter con
team......
she wasn't really half good either!

--- Mithril1960@... wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 9/8/2006 5:47:03 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> "Daena" from POTA 2001
>
>
>
> Estella "My Makeup stayed perfect for this whole
> sh*tty movie" Warren?
> Forget it. She had her chance. Exit stage left.
>
>
> "People shouldn't fear their governments,
> governments should fear their
> people."
>
> V - V for Vendetta
>


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Group: pota Message: 38971 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/9/2006 7:08:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Yes, I've dreamed of this ever since I first read the book, but I've given up all hope of ever seeing any such movie!
 
Thank God!
Sounds like another Hollywood Crapfest to me.
The last thing I want to see is a bunch of Harry
And The Hendersons apes duplicated  in CGI.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 38972 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/9/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/9/06 3:14:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:


In a message dated 9/9/2006 7:08:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Yes, I've dreamed of this ever since I first read the book, but I've given up all hope of ever seeing any such movie!




Thank God!
Sounds like another Hollywood Crapfest to me.
The last thing I want to see is a bunch of Harry
And The Hendersons apes duplicated  in CGI.


You knucklehead!  I'm not saying they'd look like Harry and the Hendersons!  They'd look like real apes! 
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Group: pota Message: 38973 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
You knucklehead!  I'm not saying they'd look like Harry and the Hendersons!  They'd look like real apes! 
 
That's worse!
Lancelot Link?
 
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Group: pota Message: 38974 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> You knucklehead! I'm not saying they'd look like Harry and the
Hendersons!
> They'd look like real apes!
>
>
>
> That's worse!
> Lancelot Link?
>

Testing the waters here...
Been a few days since I logged on and I know this has to do with
casting, but I missed this one...
Am I doing this right?
I don't want to get yelled at anymore...
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Group: pota Message: 38975 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:
>
> OK, you're given a budget of 150 Million dollars. A screenplay
adaptation of
> Planet of the Apes (Le Planet d'Singes) by Pierre Boule, faithful
to the
> novel. Who do we cast as our main characters?
>
> Jinn - Johnny Depp
> Pillys - Miranda Otto
> Ulysses Merous - Jean Reno
> Professor Antelle - Ian Holm
> Zira - Kathleen Turner
> Cornelius - Jude Law
> Nova - Uma Thurman
> Dr. Zaius - Ian McKellan
>
>
> "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear
their
> people."
> V For Vendetta.
>
Let's put Jack Nickolson behind some latex
Recast Helena Bonham Carter as Zira ( for her gentle, brown,
soulful eyes)
Joel Grey as Cornelius (if he's still alive)
Nova should be played by someone little known, and very
curvacious (Beyonce?)
Liam Neeson as Dr. Zaius
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Group: pota Message: 38976 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Cartoon series from Fox on DVD
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Amazon have just emailed me to say my order has shipped, so it looks
as though the animated series is available now. If anybody gets
images of the re-release of the live action series, I'd love to know
if the packaging is different--ie, better, as it couldn't be any
worse. John.
>
> Oddly the Fox online store is still saying 10/3 as the release date
> for the toons. I wonder if Amazon got an early shipment.
>
> Also, the Fox Store has the TV Series being re-released on 10/3 as
> well. If anyone picks up a copy please let us know if it is any
> different from the previous release.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up--I just ordered mine. The packaging looks
> cool,
> > it's a release we've asked for for years, and it aint expensive,
> so
> > let's get buying folks. John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure, but I just ordered the POTA cartoon series Fox
DVD
> on
> > Amazon -- and I think it's available now!
> > >
> > > Check it out!
> > >
> > > -- Rory
> > >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 38977 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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That's worse!
Lancelot Link?


You really need to give the book another read, T.
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Group: pota Message: 38978 From: hotscheetz Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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Dr. Zaius = Anthony Hopkins,
Cornelius = Johnny Depp,
Zira = Emma Thompson,
Taylor = Gerard Butler,
Nova = Jessica Alba

G
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Group: pota Message: 38979 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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These are the actors that I would cast for "Planet of the Apes"..

The first two I would keep...
Jinn - Johnny Depp
Phyllis_ Miranda Otto
But the rest of the cast would be changed and actor would change role

Ulysses Merou- Adrien Brody
Professor Antelle-Jean Reno
Zira- Sophie Marceau
Cornelius- James Caviezel
Nova- Jessica Alba
Dr. Zaius-Jude Law

Kevin
PofTAfan

-----Original Message-----
From: thadesdarlinghuman@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 3:16 AM
Subject: [POTA] Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:
>
> OK, you're given a budget of 150 Million dollars. A screenplay
adaptation of
> Planet of the Apes (Le Planet d'Singes) by Pierre Boule, faithful
to the
> novel. Who do we cast as our main characters?
>
> Jinn - Johnny Depp
> Pillys - Miranda Otto
> Ulysses Merous - Jean Reno
> Professor Antelle - Ian Holm
> Zira - Kathleen Turner
> Cornelius - Jude Law
> Nova - Uma Thurman
> Dr. Zaius - Ian McKellan
>
>
> "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear
their
> people."
> V For Vendetta.
>
Let's put Jack Nickolson behind some latex
Recast Helena Bonham Carter as Zira ( for her gentle, brown,
soulful eyes)
Joel Grey as Cornelius (if he's still alive)
Nova should be played by someone little known, and very
curvacious (Beyonce?)
Liam Neeson as Dr. Zaius









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Group: pota Message: 38980 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
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-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 38981 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
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Ulysses Merou- Adrien Brody

Adrien Brody?!!!!

First KING KONG and then POTA?!!!!
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Group: pota Message: 38982 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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Yeah....Ain't it cool.

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 6:54 PM
Subject: [POTA] Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.

In a message dated 9/10/06 5:50:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
PofTAfan@... writes:


Ulysses Merou- Adrien Brody

Adrien Brody?!!!!

First KING KONG and then POTA?!!!!





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Group: pota Message: 38983 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/10/2006 3:19:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:
I don't want to get yelled at anymore...
 
Don't let Rory get to you.
He uses bold type, so it
always looks like he's
yelling.  Plus he's
always yelling.
 
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Group: pota Message: 38984 From: drhasslein Date: 9/10/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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You have to fit Cagney & the dead end kids in there somewhere.

One other question, I don't understand. I liked the book, and I think a
film version would be an interesting, curiousity piece, but don't you
think the filmed version was far superior?


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I have a different take on this question: What if PLANET had been
made in
> 1938 or 1948 instead of in 1968. Who would you have imagined in the
roles?
> Bogart has Taylor perhaps? Charles Laughton as Dr. Zaius maybe?
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 38985 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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There was a Welsh actor, Ray Milland, who would have been a
great 'retro' Zaius, just the right combination of style and off
handedness. In those days, Merou would still have to be an American--I,
very tentatively, suggest maybe George Reeves, who went on to be
Superman? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 38986 From: Dave B Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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I'd give Edward G Robinson the chance to show us his Zaius in a
full-out movie.

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 38987 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/10/2006 6:00:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Adrien Brody?!!!!

First KING KONG and then POTA?!!!!
 
Just goes to show, even good actors can be miscast.
 
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Group: pota Message: 38988 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/10/2006 5:52:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Bogart has Taylor perhaps?
 
No, but I would cast Bogey as Moses.
What the hell, Man?
 
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Group: pota Message: 38989 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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Let's take it back another couple of decades--Buster Keaton as
Taylor/Merou, Fatty Arbuckle as Zaius, Mary Pickford as Zira. My god,
it's perfect! John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 38990 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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One other question, I don't understand. I liked the book, and I think a
film version would be an interesting, curiousity piece, but don't you
think the filmed version was far superior?


Are you asking me?

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 38991 From: jose ramon Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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Incredible!!!!


shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
Let's take it back another couple of decades--Buster Keaton as
Taylor/Merou, Fatty Arbuckle as Zaius, Mary Pickford as Zira. My god,
it's perfect! John, Scrolls.
>



Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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Group: pota Message: 38992 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/11/06 3:53:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, john@... writes:


There was a Welsh actor, Ray Milland, who would have been a
great 'retro' Zaius, just the right combination of style and off
handedness. In those days, Merou would still have to be an American--I,
very tentatively, suggest maybe George Reeves, who went on to be
Superman? John, Scrolls.


Ray Milland is one of my favorite actors.  I think you're talking about the older Ray Milland though.  That would be a "what if we re-cast PLANET in '67?" question.  That list could be endless.

Since Heston in PLANET looks somewhat like Tarzan, can you imagine a 1940's POTA with Johnny Weissmuller?

I don't know if many of you here know "old" Hollywood as well as I do.  I spend most of my TV time watching old movies from the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s.  I'm currently reading a biography of Peter Lorre.

If it wasn't for Yahoo emails, I don't think I'd think about POTA much these days.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 38993 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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I'd give Edward G Robinson the chance to show us his Zaius in a
full-out movie.

Dave


Yeah, as much as I like Maurice Evans, I can't help but wonder what Robinson would have been like.  He would have played the role too, if Fox had agreed to paying him $150,000.  That heart condition story was bogus.  It was all about the money!

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 38994 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/11/06 7:38:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, john@... writes:


Let's take it back another couple of decades--Buster Keaton as
Taylor/Merou, Fatty Arbuckle as Zaius, Mary Pickford as Zira. My god,
it's perfect! John, Scrolls.


A silent movie?!!!  How could you leave out Lon Chaney?!

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 38995 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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Zira?
 
It have to be Dorothy McGuire.
 
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Group: pota Message: 38996 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/11/2006 2:53:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:
In those days, Merou would still have to be an American--I,
very tentatively, suggest maybe George Reeves, who went on to be
Superman?
 
Wait.  What?  Are we casting Merou or Taylor.
I saw John Wayne play a Swede once . . .
 
"Ya, I yust have yinner beer."
~~~ Jone Wayne as Ole Olsen in The Long Voyage Home~~~~
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 38997 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Return DVD
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The following items have been shipped to you by Amazon.com:
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Amazon.com items (Sold by Amazon.com, LLC):
   1     Return to the Planet of th...   $17.99      1   $17.99

  Item Subtotal:  $17.99
         Shipping & Handling:  $2.98

                       Total:  $20.97

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Group: pota Message: 38998 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/10/2006 4:12:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HotScheetz@... writes:
Taylor = Gerard Butler,
There is no taylor in the BOOK version. His name is Ulysses Merou and Jean Reno would be perfect.
 
 
"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.
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Group: pota Message: 38999 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/11/2006 3:30:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:
I'd give Edward G Robinson the chance to show us his Zaius in a
full-out movie.
 
My Retro-Taylor would probably be Gregory Peck.
 
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Group: pota Message: 39000 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/10/2006 6:52:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
I have a different take on this question:  What if PLANET had been made in 1938 or 1948 instead of in 1968.  Who would you have imagined in the roles?  Bogart has Taylor perhaps?  Charles Laughton as Dr. Zaius maybe?
Ok...
 
Taylor: Humphrey Bogart
Nova: Ingrid Bergman
Zaius: Charles Laughton
Dodge (who probably would have been white): Lon Chaney Jr.
Landon: Boris Karloff
Marcus: Johnny Weismuller
 
 
 
 
"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.
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Group: pota Message: 39001 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Apes Rarities
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First, thanks to James for not only sending me a disc (and in a very nice case at that!) but a copy of Scrolls, which I'll be sure to read!

Second thanks to everyone involved! That disc is surely a labor of love and it has some amazing stuff on it! I don't even remember half of those Mego commericals, nor do I remember the final Astronaut, the one in the white vest (reminds me of the guy from Farscape!). I found it odd that they had Urko and Ursus. I only had Zaius, Cornelius, Zira, a couple of Gorillas, the Astronaut and Virdon and Burke. Sigh... I wish I still had em all. I was laughing when they referred to Zira as "The woman scientist." I wonder how well Mego's Apes figures sold? I remember playing with mine and having them kill my Buddy's Captain Kirk figure. (Remember those? With sky blue phasers for the federation and red for the Klingon?)
 
Where did you guys get those awesome shots of the Apes inside the spaceship? I know I've seen one picture (possibly from my Apes Archives card set), but I'd really like to know if that footage still exists. The Charlton Heston bit from SNL was brilliant (I'm a Charlton fan and I don't care what anyone else says!). The make up was nice (if mostly cheap) but the use of the music was freaking brilliant!
 
Well, I still have to watch the rest. I know you've been thanked before, but I'm going to thank you again! Thanks!
 
 
"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.
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Group: pota Message: 39002 From: The Soft Parade Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: gorilla shot
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I will try and get that gorilla shot out to you asap

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> I just got an email from Amazon:
>
> The following items have been shipped to you by
> Amazon.com:
>
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> Subtotal
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> Amazon.com items (Sold by Amazon.com, LLC):
> 1 Return to the Planet of th... $17.99
> 1 $17.99
>
> Item Subtotal: $17.99
> Shipping & Handling: $2.98
>
> Total: $20.97
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 39003 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/10/2006 5:50:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
Ulysses Merou- Adrien Brody
Oh please. No way. He's one of the most overrated actors around today. He can't play a hero worth sh*t. He sucked in King Kong (along with most of the overlong film). Reno is the heroic type and would be much better as Merou.
 
 
"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.
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Group: pota Message: 39004 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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His nose is too big...remember what Stan Winston said
about tim Roth....!

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/10/06 5:50:28 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time, PofTAfan@...
> writes:
>
>
> > Ulysses Merou- Adrien Brody
> >
> Adrien Brody?!!!!
>
> First KING KONG and then POTA?!!!!
>


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Group: pota Message: 39005 From: drhasslein Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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I'm asking anyone with an opinion. As much as I do not think a remake
of the original film is necessary, if I'm fantasy casting, it's the
movie, not the book.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/10/06 11:58:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> drhasslein@... writes:
>
>
> > One other question, I don't understand. I liked the book, and I
think a
> > film version would be an interesting, curiousity piece, but don't
you
> > think the filmed version was far superior?
> >
>
> Are you asking me?
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 39006 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 9/11/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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I would have to disagree on you about having jean Reno as
Ulyssee, I understand Jean Reno would be a great action hero to play
Ulysses, but other than the "Professional" which he was in the leading
role with Natalie Portman , but other than that he either co-starred or
had a minor role.
If you want Reno to be in the Planet of the Apes, let him
play the role of Professor Antelle. You got to sell the movie to make
money and Reno wouldn't sell it, Reno is more of a secondary actor(i.e
Godzilla with Matthew Brodderick, Ronin with Robert DeNiro, Mission
Impossible with Tom Cruise and the new movie Flyboys).
Reno is a good actor don't get me wrong, but if your bugeting
a 150 million dollar movie, you better have a top name star as the
leading role. If Adrien Brody is not the one you want starring in the
movie as Ulysses Merou then either have Josh Hartnett, Christian Bale,
Ryan Phillippe, Ethan Hawke or some new young star like Patrick Wilson
or James McAvoy star as Ulysses.

Kevin
PofTAfan

-----Original Message-----
From: Mithril1960@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.

In a message dated 9/10/2006 5:50:10 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
Ulysses Merou- Adrien Brody

Oh please. No way. He's one of the most overrated actors around today.
He can't play a hero worth sh*t. He sucked in King Kong (along with
most of the overlong film). Reno is the heroic type and would be much
better as Merou.


"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear
their people."
V For Vendetta.






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Group: pota Message: 39007 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> I'd give Edward G Robinson the chance to show us his Zaius in a
> full-out movie.
>
> Dave
>
He couldn't take the makeup...
They tried...
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Group: pota Message: 39008 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I have a different take on this question: What if PLANET had been
made in
> 1938 or 1948 instead of in 1968. Who would you have imagined in
the roles?
> Bogart has Taylor perhaps? Charles Laughton as Dr. Zaius maybe?
>
> -- Rory
>
Don't bite my head off, okay?
James Cagney
Lauren Bacall
Laurence Olivier
Peter O'toole
Omar Shariff
Peter Lorre
Bogart is a little stiff for Taylor, don't ya think?
Olivia DeHaviland
And that dude who played Charlie Chan (Moon?).
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Group: pota Message: 39009 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Let's take it back another couple of decades--Buster Keaton as
> Taylor/Merou, Fatty Arbuckle as Zaius, Mary Pickford as Zira. My
god,
> it's perfect! John, Scrolls.
> >
>
You're KILLIN' ME!
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Group: pota Message: 39010 From: Dave B Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:

If your bugeting
> a 150 million dollar movie, you better have a top name star as the
> leading role. If Adrien Brody is not the one you want starring in the
> movie as Ulysses Merou then either have Josh Hartnett, Christian Bale,
> Ryan Phillippe, Ethan Hawke or some new young star like Patrick Wilson
> or James McAvoy star as Ulysses.

Kevin, you are absolutely, 100% correct in what you say which is why
Hollywood is in the state it's in and why it'll never again be able to
make an APE movie with some integrity.

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 39011 From: Dave B Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
<thadesdarlinghuman@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > I'd give Edward G Robinson the chance to show us his Zaius in a
> > full-out movie.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> He couldn't take the makeup...
> They tried...
>

That he couldn't take the make-up is something of a myth, it's since
been widely reported that the makers just didn't want to pay that much
for an actor and bought him off. There's even a story that he was
asked to leave because he wouldn't shave off his goatee making the
application of make-up impossible.

Besides, we were discussing a much younger Edward G.

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 39012 From: Dave B Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > I have a different take on this question: What if PLANET had been
> made in
> > 1938 or 1948 instead of in 1968.

Make up by Jack Pierce? Music by Franz Waxman or Dimitri Tiomkin?

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 39013 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/11/2006 6:27:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Mithril1960@... writes:
Jean Reno would be perfect.
 
A close second to Tcheky Karyo.
He the only one I can see say
"O Apes!"  with a straight face.
 
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Group: pota Message: 39014 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:50:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:
then either have Josh Hartnett, Christian Bale,
> Ryan Phillippe, Ethan Hawke or some new young star like Patrick Wilson
> or James McAvoy star as Ulysses.
 
I can put a face with any of these names.
Thank God!  And I hope I never can.
 
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Group: pota Message: 39015 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@ wrote:
>
> If your bugeting
> > a 150 million dollar movie, you better have a top name star as
the
> > leading role. If Adrien Brody is not the one you want starring
in the
> > movie as Ulysses Merou then either have Josh Hartnett, Christian
Bale,
> > Ryan Phillippe, Ethan Hawke or some new young star like Patrick
Wilson
> > or James McAvoy star as Ulysses.
>
> Kevin, you are absolutely, 100% correct in what you say which is
why
> Hollywood is in the state it's in and why it'll never again be
able to
> make an APE movie with some integrity.
>
> Dave
>
Don't we really need to think about this as someones nightmare?
You would have to, really...
NOW place the actors...
Who do you fear?
Why do you fear them?
Boris Karloff in "The Mummy"... Only a moment and you were
paralyzed with fear...
Put yourself there for a minute. I'll wait....
Feel it?
Pretty scary, isn't it?

Hollywood doesn't allow their imagination to roam. That's why
they can't capture the moment...
Oh, yeah...Time-sensetive...
Money talks...
We know what walks...
Unfortunatly, too much has walked (right into Indies).

Feel that dream... That nightmarish instinct...
150,000,000...?
I'll chew my nails down to a nub to achieve those worthy of a
true "Planet of the Apes" remake even though I loved Thade...
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Group: pota Message: 39016 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
> <thadesdarlinghuman@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd give Edward G Robinson the chance to show us his Zaius in a
> > > full-out movie.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > He couldn't take the makeup...
> > They tried...
> >
>
> That he couldn't take the make-up is something of a myth, it's
since
> been widely reported that the makers just didn't want to pay that
much
> for an actor and bought him off. There's even a story that he was
> asked to leave because he wouldn't shave off his goatee making the
> application of make-up impossible.
>
> Besides, we were discussing a much younger Edward G.
>
> Dave
>
Oh. Sorry...
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Group: pota Message: 39017 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:56:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:
Make up by Jack Pierce?
William Tuttle
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Group: pota Message: 39018 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> His nose is too big...remember what Stan Winston said
> about tim Roth....!
>
> --- Haristas@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 9/10/06 5:50:28 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time, PofTAfan@...
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > Ulysses Merou- Adrien Brody
> > >
> > Adrien Brody?!!!!
> >
> > First KING KONG and then POTA?!!!!
> >
>
> "We need people with small noses and short upper lips..."?
>
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Group: pota Message: 39019 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:27:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:
And that dude who played Charlie Chan (Moon?).
Which Charlie Chan was that?
The only ones I know were Sidney Toler and Warner Oland.
 
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Group: pota Message: 39020 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote:
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/10/2006 6:52:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> I have a different take on this question: What if PLANET had
been made in
> 1938 or 1948 instead of in 1968. Who would you have imagined in
the roles?
> Bogart has Taylor perhaps? Charles Laughton as Dr. Zaius maybe?
>
>
>
> Ok...
>
> Taylor: Humphrey Bogart
> Nova: Ingrid Bergman
> Zaius: Charles Laughton
> Dodge (who probably would have been white): Lon Chaney Jr.
> Landon: Boris Karloff
> Marcus: Johnny Weismuller
>
>
>
>
> "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear
their
> people."
> V For Vendetta.
>
Rory,
You scare me...
I'm always late on the draw here and you always check me hard,
but I have to submit Lon Chaney into this era because he knew his
makeup...
Sorry if I upset you...
I work LATE HOURS and always come in last on these debates...
Uhoh...
NINE INCH NAILS...
"I WANT TO F**K YOU LIKE AN ANIMAL" just broke through on my
internet "MUZAK"...
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Group: pota Message: 39021 From: jose ramon Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Frank the gorilla
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I always intrigued myself by the personage of Frank, gorila interpreted by Buck Kartalian in Conquest. It has the black face, but the hands are white.  
 
Confusion or exists some justification?
 
JR

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Group: pota Message: 39022 From: handleyr@optonline.net Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2755
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>1b. Frank the gorilla
>I always intrigued myself


That's interesting -- I have always intrigured myself, too.

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Group: pota Message: 39023 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Re: Lets Cast Pierre Boules Planet of the Apes.
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In a message dated 9/11/2006 11:06:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
If Adrien Brody is not the one you want starring in the
movie as Ulysses Merou then either have Josh Hartnett, Christian Bale,
Ryan Phillippe, Ethan Hawke or some new young star like Patrick Wilson
or James McAvoy star as Ulysses.
Afraid not. Jean Reno is internationally known. And how does one get to be a "BIG STAR" without getting a Starring role? In crapzilla, the US version, he totally overshadowed Matthew Broderick, who was sleepwalking through the entire movie. Jean Reno would be perfect for Ulysses, since he's french and he's a damn good actor. Better than the flavors of the week listed above.
 
 
"People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people."
V For Vendetta.
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Group: pota Message: 39024 From: Chris Lawless Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: new scans available
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Hi all,
 
In case anyone is interested, some new POTA related scans are available at Hunter's site (https://pota.goatley.com/). I've had these magazines in my collection for quite some time now, and while reorganizing everything recently I figured it would be a good time to get them posted. As far as I can tell, the BENEATH article in FM # 149 originally appeared in issue #80 (which had a cover photo of the gorilla soldiers at Ursus' rally). I've recently won a copy of #80, so as soon as I have it the original cover will be posted along with the article.
 
The AMC magazine was released in September 1998 in conjunction with their 30th Anniversary POTA marathon (some clips from which were recently included in Hunter's excellent 'Rarities' DVD).
 
The Questar magazine from 1980 is a bit of an oddity. As a child when I used to visit my grandparents during the summer months, I used to spend hours scouring all the different local newsstands for comic books and Sci-Fi magazines. Back then, **anything** POTA related was a find since the only time I got to see the films was when they were run on The 4:30 Movie (http://home.earthlink.net/~kfp/) on Channel 7 in NYC. I've only ever seen that one issue for sale, and have never found out any additional info about the publication since.
 
Thanks to Greg P. for scanning and Hunter for hosting!! We've also got another apes-related rarity scanning project in the works, so stay tuned. I think a lot of people will find it... insightful into the mindset of a certain writer.
 
Everyone enjoy!!
 
 
Chris L.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 39025 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 9/12/2006
Subject: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974 ,
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Group: pota Message: 39027 From: James Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
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Happy Anniversary to the POTA TV series! Today's Home Page pic and sound clip are in the series honor.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Reminder from the Calendar of pota
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
>
> Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
> Wednesday September 13, 2006

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Group: pota Message: 39028 From: Dave B Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Happy Anniversary to the POTA TV series! Today's Home Page pic and sound
> clip are in the series honor.
>

32 years!!!

That's scary, I can remember settling down on the sofa and fidgiting
with excitement, waiting for the show to start.

Seems like yesterday, to me.

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 39029 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 100
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The 100th issue in our continuing Marvel UK project has been posted to Hunter's site. 23 more issues of PotA to go, plus the 16 issues of Mighty World of Marvel that finished off the series.
 
This issue contains the next part in the Derek Zane story, reprinted from issues 85 and 86, as well as the next chapter in the reprinting of the Planet adaptation. New content in this issue is a 9-page Glossary of the Planet of the Apes, which includes some nice photos from the TV series as well as the films. The PDFs have been arranged so that if you only want the glossary you just have to download part 2.
 
If you want original Planet of the Apes comics material today, head out to your local comic shop and purchase a copy of Revolution on the Planet of the Apes #6, by the good folks at Mr. Comics.
 
 
Thanks,
Greg
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Group: pota Message: 39030 From: shanter2002 Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 100
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Ahhh...my favourite Ape comic ever, #100 of the UK Weekly. I can
remember my delight at seeing the Glossary, which I read so many
times, I could nearly recite it. The cover on this issue is a
curiosity--it's by the legendary Frank Thorne, who is most famous for
his 70s run on Red Sonja, the flame haired, female version of
Conan.If you look to the left of the cover, we have our very own
version of Sonja on this cover! Greg, there is a medal waiting for
you somewhere for stirring so many happy memories! All this, and
Revolution #6 to look forward to! John, Scrolls.
>
> The 100th issue in our continuing Marvel UK project has been posted
to Hunter's site. 23 more issues of PotA to go, plus the 16 issues of
Mighty World of Marvel that finished off the series.
>
> This issue contains the next part in the Derek Zane story,
reprinted from issues 85 and 86, as well as the next chapter in the
reprinting of the Planet adaptation. New content in this issue is a 9-
page Glossary of the Planet of the Apes, which includes some nice
photos from the TV series as well as the films. The PDFs have been
arranged so that if you only want the glossary you just have to
download part 2.
>
> If you want original Planet of the Apes comics material today,
head out to your local comic shop and purchase a copy of Revolution
on the Planet of the Apes #6, by the good folks at Mr. Comics.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
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Group: pota Message: 39031 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
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If Fox needs a New Nova they need look no
further than their own Rebecca Gomez.
She'd be perfect for the part.
 
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Group: pota Message: 39032 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Birthday Contest
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James, Are any of the items recently offered as prizes, the Ploog
sketch, the ANSA hat, the cards, available for purchase, from the club?

Thanks!

Jim
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Group: pota Message: 39033 From: hotscheetz Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
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Looking good!...Thanks, James...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Happy Anniversary to the POTA TV series! Today's Home Page pic and
sound
> clip are in the series honor.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Reminder from the Calendar of pota
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
> >
> > Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
> > Wednesday September 13, 2006
>
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Group: pota Message: 39034 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/13/06 12:22:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:


If Fox needs a New Nova they need look no
further than their own Rebecca Gomez.
She'd be perfect for the part.

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Group: pota Message: 39035 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/13/06 8:29:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:


32 years!!!

That's scary, I can remember settling down on the sofa and fidgiting
with excitement, waiting for the show to start.

Seems like yesterday, to me.

Dave


You think that's scary?

It was over 38 years ago that I saw PLANET for the first time and that seems as if yesterday to me!

What's really scary is it'll soon be 50 years ago, the 60, then maybe I'll be dead!

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 39036 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
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In a message dated 9/13/2006 5:56:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Who is Rebecca Gomez?  The great granddaughter of Thomas Gomez?
 
Does no one know how to Google?
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Google
IMDB
Wikipedia
Learn it
Live it
Love it
 
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Group: pota Message: 39037 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
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In a message dated 9/13/2006 5:56:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Who is Rebecca Gomez?  The great granddaughter of Thomas Gomez?
 
No, Gomez Addams.
She's a News Anchor.
 
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Group: pota Message: 39038 From: James Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Birthday Contest
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Unfortunately the Ploog autograph is one of a kind. The cards were a limited run and not for sale. However, we may offer another set as a future prize. You can get a copy of the Rarities DVD two ways:

  1. Send me a blank DVD-R or DVD+R with a self addressed stamped envelope (email me privately for my address. Or if that is too much trouble:
  2. Send $2 to Greg P. via his PayPal account: urko3085@.... If you don't have a PayPal account email Greg at the same email to arrange to send him the $2 by Money Order.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jameshburns@... wrote:
>
>
> James, Are any of the items recently offered as prizes, the Ploog
> sketch, the ANSA hat, the cards, available for purchase, from the club?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim
>

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Group: pota Message: 39039 From: drhasslein Date: 9/13/2006
Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
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If we're giving the part to a news anchor, I would suggest Lauren
Sanchez.





--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 9/13/2006 5:56:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> Who is Rebecca Gomez? The great granddaughter of Thomas Gomez?
>
>
>
> No, Gomez Addams.
> She's a News Anchor.
>
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Group: pota Message: 39040 From: Dave B Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
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Well, that's a cheery thought on which to start the day :0)

I always think of the TV show as being much 'younger' than the movies.
When you're a kid, 6 years is an eternity, not the blink of an eye it
becomes later in life.

It's quite incredible that the APES franchise generated so much in
such a short space of time.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/13/06 8:29:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> smugster2000@... writes:
>
>
> > 32 years!!!
> >
> > That's scary, I can remember settling down on the sofa and fidgiting
> > with excitement, waiting for the show to start.
> >
> > Seems like yesterday, to me.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> You think that's scary?
>
> It was over 38 years ago that I saw PLANET for the first time and
that seems
> as if yesterday to me!
>
> What's really scary is it'll soon be 50 years ago, the 60, then
maybe I'll be
> dead!
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 39041 From: Zachary Scott Date: 9/14/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
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    I remember this day very well, too.  I did the exact same:  waited impatiently for the first episode to start.  I was very
    impressed and pleased with the TV Apes.
     
    Zach   
     
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    From: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: 09/13/06 18:07:25
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [POTA] Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
     

    In a message dated 9/13/06 8:29:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, smugster2000@ yahoo.com writes:


    32 years!!!

    That's scary, I can remember settling down on the sofa and fidgiting
    with excitement, waiting for the show to start.

    Seems like yesterday, to me.

    Dave


    You think that's scary?

    It was over 38 years ago that I saw PLANET for the first time and that seems as if yesterday to me!

    What's really scary is it'll soon be 50 years ago, the 60, then maybe I'll be dead!

    -- Rory

     
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    Group: pota Message: 39042 From: jose ramon Date: 9/14/2006
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (TV series) premiered on this day in 1974
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      Back in the 70´s, in Spain, we have a loop: UFO, SPACE 1999 and PLANET OF THE APES, in this order, repited several times. The Thursday at 18:00 we have CF.
       
      JR

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      Group: pota Message: 39043 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
      Subject: Idiocracy
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      If you haven't seen Mike Judge's Idiocracy, you're not alone. After sitting on the shelf for two years, the comedy was released by 20th Century Fox in just a few cities (New York City didn't make the cut), and with such little fanfare that even a call to Moviephone only turned the picture up as "Untitled Mike Judge Comedy." Evidently the filmmaker and the studio had some kind of falling out along the production road for the film, but the miracle perhaps is that Idiocracy was released at all. An absolutely ruthless satiric attack on American society's rampant anti-intellectualism, consumer marketing and the conventions of science-fiction films, Idiocracy isn't exactly warm and fuzzy—it's more like cold and filthy.

      Judge's story follows an unambitious army private (Luke Wilson) who's frozen in a government experiment and wakes 500 years in the future to find society dumbed down way below idiot level (both the president and Fox News correspondents are pro-wrestlers) and sees massive, inept corporations running everything while trash piles up to the size of mountains and crops go unwatered except for what they can derive from a popular sports drink. The spelling of "Fuddruckers" also changes.

      Idiocracy is a comedy, but there's at least one aspect about it that's dead serious: Theodore Shapiro's full-blown orchestral score. Since 2001's Wet Hot American Summer, Shapiro has been known for tackling comedies (the list includes Not Another Teen Movie, Old School, Starsky and Hutch, 13 Going on 30, and this summer's hit, The Devil Wears Prada)—but the Julliard-trained composer has also done scores for David Mamet (Heist, State and Main), and Idiocracy's satirical approach allowed him to write the kind of score probably not heard on movie screens since at least the mid-'70s. Shapiro scored Idiocracy in early 2005, recording the bulk of the score in March of that year. "The process was a very smooth one—Mike and I got in-synch about what the music was going to be and we had a really good time," the composer says. "The only real reference that we talked about was the Goldsmith score to Planet of the Apes , which is one of the clear reference points of this, although I don't think it was so much that Mike knew that score well as it was the idea of a very serious science-fiction epic score. That was really the main thing we thought would be funny, to treat it extremely seriously and nod to the sci-fi genre."

      The Idiocracy score, in fact, manages to reference Goldsmith's seminal science-fiction score without, shall we say, "aping it." Shapiro nods to the feel of Apes and some of its effects—staccato piano, echoplex-type fades, strange percussion and the looming, menacing power that was Goldsmith's stock-in-trade. But Shapiro creates his effects gracefully, seamlessly integrating them into the score along with some theremin-like riffs for an opening "history of man" crawl, buzzing action music as Wilson's character is chased by the future idiot authorities, and the requisite warm and noble sentiments to accompany the hero's quasi-romantic relationship with a tender-hearted prostitute (Maya Rudolph) and his eventual triumph over the forces of idiocy.

      The upshot is, Idiocracy holds together as a score that works on its own, and not just as a collection of temp riffs—and Shapiro says that's because the temp itself wasn't a roadmap for the score. "There was nothing in the temp that was in that direction at all," he says of the final score's nods to Planet of the Apes. "It was just an idea that I thought would be funny. I had not seen Planet of the Apes until right before I started working on the movie; in fact, that Goldsmith palette was more avant-garde than this movie could really handle. But at the same time there were a number of gestures in that score that did provide inspiration for what I did. I think the fact that I wasn't dealing with a temp that was on the nose was enormously helpful. It was the ideal situation where we had a temp where we could all say, 'Okay, let's go in a different direction,' yet they had a placeholder for screening purposes. Temps can really hamstring you and this was a fortunate situation that we had an idea we agreed upon and there was no sign of that in the temp at all."

      Simian Sounds
      Shapiro began his work with the film's opening, with stentorian narration and footage showing mankind's fall from grace into a giant pile of garbage. "That whole sequence involving the decline of man and the garbage avalanche was what I tackled first, and one of the things that came out of that is there is a decline of man motif that appears there and runs through the entire score. That was a helpful signpost to hit right out of the gate. That particular cue is not one of the ones that is a Planet of the Apes-influenced cue."

      The opening cue does contain some other sci-fi signposts, such as a theremin-like wail at some points. "I wanted to use vintage synths as part of the orchestra, which clearly has a very specific dating component to it. But I thought that would be a funny reference point to hit. That stuff was all done in Atmosphere, a virtual instrument, but what we did that really helped was I love the sound of scores where the synths are played live in the room so we recorded all the synth material at Fox—we ran the synth material through a speaker and then recorded the room. I was actually very happy with the results because it did sound like it was part of the orchestra in a way that sometimes if you have the synth going directly to Pro Tools or tape, even when you run it through reverb that's supposed to simulate a hall, to me it always sounds like a different space and that's one of the more satisfying techniques I've used as far as that goes." The theremin effect was a synth patch, while the effect of a live choir was created using samples. "The orchestra was rather large—there were about 90 players. The choir was fake; I perhaps shouldn't admit that but the choir was fake, and I think my engineer did a good job of setting the levels just low enough that you can't quite make out whether it's real or not. That's a color that should be used with caution. But all of these things have their moments in the cycle of fashion." The references to Planet of the Apes climax in a "Forbidden Zone"-like sequence that has Wilson and his colleagues journey across a suspiciously L.A.-looking wasteland to find a Costco, depicted as a still-operating ruin approximately the size of Nebraska. "I really didn't want to be overly specific about referencing sounds," Shapiro says of his Goldsmith-style riffs. "Off the top of my head Goldsmith uses a shofar or something and people talk about mixing bowls, and I really wasn't interested in the specific sounds as much as the more general gesture he was going after. There's a muted piano, which obviously is used at the beginning of that score. There are log drums, which I'm not sure are part of the Apes score, some col legno stuff, and we did some delay effects, which is very much out of the Goldsmith playbook. We actually went so far as to find out what he would do when he was creating that sound, whether he would record the instruments separately that were being run through the delay and just slap that on to whatever he was using it on and let the rest of the orchestra bleed into the delay as well, which is in fact what he did—so we did that as well. We would just use the delay on whatever instrument section we were adding that effect to and let the rest of the orchestra bleed into that. It should be said that there's a second level of lineage here. When you listen to that score it was clear that he had absorbed a lot of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, Bartók and other things, so those are influences on both scores."

      The composer readily admits that this is the kind of score he doesn't often get the chance to write. "It was great to do this—I love writing this kind of music and it's just a strange circumstance that I've fallen into a place where so many of the scores I write have to have a pop and orchestra hybrid sound. It's certainly not anything I set out to do—I really love writing big orchestral scores and to get a chance to do that was really a great deal of fun, not to mention using a slightly more dissonant harmonic palette. There's a lot of films that really don't have chords with more than three notes in them and so to get to work in this harmonic palette was a great deal of fun. Comedy can provide you with some remarkable opportunities to mine gold in genres that you have great affection for and yet couldn't really work in in the same way today. I've spoken with other composers who get a lot of work in the thriller genre about how we should have some kind of work exchange program so we could do different kinds of work."

      Another opportunity Shapiro got on Idiocracy was the chance to actually release his score to listeners. Given the fact that it was recorded in L.A. and that the movie was barely released theatrically, Idiocracy was a score that could easily have fallen through the cracks. But Shapiro got together with the Fox music department to arrange to have his work released on iTunes only instead of a standard CD album release. "Basically from my vantage point all I care about—it would be great if there was a record label that wanted to do a big push for a score that I've done, but all I care about is getting my work out there for somebody to listen to if they really want to. Fox obviously has made a choice that they aren't spending money on the movie, at least not theatrically, but the music department has been terrific and they really wanted to help me get it out there, and basically it doesn't cost anything to put it on iTunes. So we actually mastered the record here at our studio so we were able to put it out just doing the work ourselves and the people at Fox Music were very supportive of that." Nothing idiotic about that.



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      Group: pota Message: 39044 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
      Subject: Re: Recasting on the Planet of the Apes
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      .html.htmlIn a message dated 9/13/06 9:29:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:


      In a message dated 9/13/2006 5:56:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

      Who is Rebecca Gomez?  The great granddaughter of Thomas Gomez?




      No, Gomez Addams.
      She's a News Anchor.



      Then I doubt she's an actress!

      I'll bet you don't know who Thomas Gomez was!
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      Group: pota Message: 39045 From: Graham Hill Date: 9/14/2006
      Subject: Re: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Birthday Contest
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Unfortunately the Ploog autograph is one of a kind. The cards were
      a
      > limited run and not for sale. However, we may offer another set as
      a
      > future prize. You can get a copy of the Rarities DVD two ways:
      >
      > 1. Send me a blank DVD-R or DVD+R with a self addressed stamped
      > envelope (email me privately for my address. Or if that is too much
      > trouble:
      > 2. Send $2 to Greg P. via his PayPal account: urko3085@...
      > <mailto:urko3085@...> . If you don't have a PayPal account
      > email Greg at the same email to arrange to send him the $2 by Money
      > Order.
      >
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jameshburns@ wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > James, Are any of the items recently offered as prizes, the Ploog
      > > sketch, the ANSA hat, the cards, available for purchase, from the
      > club?
      > >
      > > Thanks!
      > >
      > > Jim
      > >
      >
      Hi Jim,
      Just thought you'd like too know that the cards,complete with the
      puzzle backs !!!, can be seen over on Hunter's site, where they look
      great due to Greg's and Hunter's web wizardry.
      Best wishes Graham.
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      Group: pota Message: 39046 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
      Subject: Return to the POTA DVDs
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      .html.htmlWell, I got the 2-disc Fox release of the RETURN cartoon series today.

      I've never been that crazy about this show and I never bothered trying to get it on any home video medium before.  I was sent the show recorded on VHS in SLP (!) a few years ago -- I think recorded from the Sci-Fi Channel -- to copy to DVD, but even though I performed the task (for Cougar I believe), I didn't keep copies for myself.  They looked horrible and it depressed me watching them.

      I have no idea where Hunter got the masters that he copied some time ago on DVD-R or whatever, which I've read are very nice, but I can't imagine they look better than what Fox has released.

      These cartoons look pretty much pristine to me.  I think they're obviously transferred from 35mm and have great color and good sound.  I haven't looked at every episode, but from the several I sampled they all look good to me.  I think I'll actually have fun watching these now because the quality is so good.

      The airdates of the episodes are listed in chronological order on the back of the packaging, but oddly on the two discs they seem to be in random order.

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 39047 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 9/14/2006
      Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
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      > I have no idea where Hunter got the masters that he copied some time ago on
      > DVD-R or whatever, which I've read are very nice, but I can't imagine they look
      > better than what Fox has released.

      They don't. The source was pretty impressive, but they were recorded
      in EP/SLP mode, so that hurt them some. The official release is
      clearer than that (as I had hoped/expected).

      Hunter
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      Group: pota Message: 39048 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/14/2006
      Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
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      .html.htmlIn a message dated 9/14/06 7:52:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:


      > I have no idea where Hunter got the masters that he copied some time ago on
      > DVD-R or whatever, which I've read are very nice, but I can't imagine they look
      > better than what Fox has released.

      They don't. The source was pretty impressive, but they were recorded
      in EP/SLP mode, so that hurt them some. The official release is
      clearer than that (as I had hoped/expected).

      Hunter




      Back in the last century, when I used to record on VHS, I never, ever, never recorded in EP/SLP.  In a phrase I often use...

      IT SUCKED!!!!

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 39049 From: Mike R Date: 9/14/2006
      Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
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      I taped the masters that Hunter used in the late 80's from WPIX channel 11.
      Tapes cost a lot more back then and so I used EP for all the stuff I taped
      in those days. For what they are, they look good but the FOX release is
      better (even with it's faults).

      Mike


      >From: Haristas@...
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: [POTA] Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
      >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:56:18 EDT
      >
      >In a message dated 9/14/06 7:52:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      >goathunter@... writes:
      >
      >
      > > > I have no idea where Hunter got the masters that he copied some time
      >ago
      > > on
      > > > DVD-R or whatever, which I've read are very nice, but I can't imagine
      >they
      > > look
      > > > better than what Fox has released.
      > >
      > > They don't. The source was pretty impressive, but they were recorded
      > > in EP/SLP mode, so that hurt them some. The official release is
      > > clearer than that (as I had hoped/expected).
      > >
      > > Hunter
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >Back in the last century, when I used to record on VHS, I never, ever,
      >never
      >recorded in EP/SLP. In a phrase I often use...
      >
      >IT SUCKED!!!!
      >
      >-- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 39050 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:27:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
      > thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:
      >
      > And that dude who played Charlie Chan (Moon?).
      >
      >
      > Which Charlie Chan was that?
      > The only ones I know were Sidney Toler and Warner Oland.
      >
      Paul Muny... from the early 30's...
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      Group: pota Message: 39051 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
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      In a message dated 9/14/2006 7:06:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
      I never, ever, never recorded in EP/SLP.  In a phrase I often use...

      IT SUCKED!!!!
       
      I would sometimes put a portion of a program in LP
      if it ran over 120 mins. to make it fit on one tape.
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 39052 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:27:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
      > thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:
      >
      > And that dude who played Charlie Chan (Moon?).
      >
      >
      > Which Charlie Chan was that?
      > The only ones I know were Sidney Toler and Warner Oland.
      >
      In case you didn't receive it: Paul Muny...
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      Group: pota Message: 39053 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: Let's Cast Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes.
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      In a message dated 9/15/2006 1:02:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:
      Paul Muny
       
      Sorry, but though Paul Muni did play Wang Lung, in The Good Earth,
      I can't find any instance of him playing Charlie Chan.  He was, however
      one of Kim Hunter's neighbors back when she was living in Los Angeles.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 39054 From: James Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Revolution #6
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      Got the final issue last night and all I can say is outstanding. I don't want to ruin things for anyone so I won't go into specifics. The main story is brought to an exciting climax that sets up the events in Battle. My only nitpik is a slight over use of classic POTA quotes.

      The back-up story is one that will statisfy both circular & alternate timeline aficionados as well as being a nice little prequel to Planet.

      In the letters section, while the first letter is from some crazy AOL member, our good friend John Roche has a letter published. The good news is that the next series "Empire on the Planet of the Apes" was announced. Can't wait for that after the great job MR did with Revolution.

      And finally, there is a tribute to Neil Foster with two of Neil's works featured. Congratulations Neil. Hopefully MR will use Neil as a contributing artist on the Empire series.

      If Ty & Joe are out there, once again great job guys. When you get the time please stop by and fill us in on the new Empire series. 

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      Group: pota Message: 39055 From: James Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: new scans available
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      Great articles Chris. I really liked the FM article on Beneath.
      Interesting that when they reprinted it they didn't put in a
      notation about Escape.
      Thanks for making these available to everyone and of course thanks
      to Greg & Hunter.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi all,
      >
      > In case anyone is interested, some new POTA related scans are
      available
      > at Hunter's site (https://pota.goatley.com/). I've had these
      magazines in
      > my collection for quite some time now, and while reorganizing
      everything
      > recently I figured it would be a good time to get them posted. As
      far as
      > I can tell, the BENEATH article in FM # 149 originally appeared in
      issue
      > #80 (which had a cover photo of the gorilla soldiers at Ursus'
      rally).
      > I've recently won a copy of #80, so as soon as I have it the
      original
      > cover will be posted along with the article.
      >
      > The AMC magazine was released in September 1998 in conjunction
      with their
      > 30th Anniversary POTA marathon (some clips from which were recently
      > included in Hunter's excellent 'Rarities' DVD).
      >
      > The Questar magazine from 1980 is a bit of an oddity. As a child
      when I
      > used to visit my grandparents during the summer months, I used to
      spend
      > hours scouring all the different local newsstands for comic books
      and
      > Sci-Fi magazines. Back then, **anything** POTA related was a find
      since
      > the only time I got to see the films was when they were run on The
      4:30
      > Movie (http://home.earthlink.net/~kfp/) on Channel 7 in NYC. I've
      only
      > ever seen that one issue for sale, and have never found out any
      > additional info about the publication since.
      >
      > Thanks to Greg P. for scanning and Hunter for hosting!! We've also
      got
      > another apes-related rarity scanning project in the works, so stay
      tuned.
      > I think a lot of people will find it... insightful into the
      mindset of a
      > certain writer.
      >
      > Everyone enjoy!!
      >
      >
      > Chris L.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 39056 From: James Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 100
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      Wow 100 issues. This means Greg has been at this for almost years
      now. Although we don't say it every week, thank you Greg for making
      these UK comics available to all of us. Scaning and sizing a full
      comic every week is no easy task. Thank you for all the time and
      love you've dedicated to this project for the sack of your fellow
      POTA fans.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
      >
      > The 100th issue in our continuing Marvel UK project has been
      posted to Hunter's site. 23 more issues of PotA to go, plus the 16
      issues of Mighty World of Marvel that finished off the series.
      >
      > This issue contains the next part in the Derek Zane story,
      reprinted from issues 85 and 86, as well as the next chapter in the
      reprinting of the Planet adaptation. New content in this issue is a
      9-page Glossary of the Planet of the Apes, which includes some nice
      photos from the TV series as well as the films. The PDFs have been
      arranged so that if you only want the glossary you just have to
      download part 2.
      >
      > If you want original Planet of the Apes comics material today,
      head out to your local comic shop and purchase a copy of Revolution
      on the Planet of the Apes #6, by the good folks at Mr. Comics.
      >
      > https://pota.goatley.com
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Greg
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 39057 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
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       I taped the masters that Hunter used in the late 80's from WPIX channel 11.
      Tapes cost a lot more back then and so I used EP for all the stuff I taped
      in those days. For what they are, they look good but the FOX release is
      better (even with it's faults).

      Mike
       
      What are its faults, and are you talking about what I just got or what was included in the head?
       
      Am I wrong or was there something wrong with the head cartoon DVDs?
       
      -- Rory 
       

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      Group: pota Message: 39058 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 9/15/2006
      Subject: Re: Return to the POTA DVDs
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      > What are its faults, and are you talking about what I just got or
      > what was included in the head?

      > Am I wrong or was there something wrong with the head cartoon DVDs?

      I'm sure Mike is referring to the fact that the 'toons are not
      pristine---they still show a lot of dirt and scratches, which may have
      been on the original cels, for all I know. They look great, but if
      you compare them to, say, a Disney remaster of one of their old
      cartoons, they look pretty dirty.

      I haven't seen the individual set, but I find it hard to believe it's
      a different source from the head DVDs.

      Hunter
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