--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
>
> Taebokitti is alive and well and occasionally reading her email.
Thinking of
> my favorite group all the time but right now I am preparing for my
> wedding!!!!!! November 4th!!! Elaine
>

 

If you want to see what a Madsen looks like

without the Ape shell check out the guns

of the guards on the oil rig in the James Bond

film Diamonds Are Forever.  The M-50 was

very popular with prop guys in the 1970's.

I think they were also used in Austin Powers.

 

 

 

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@... wrote:
>
> I'd love it if everyone showed up in monkey suits! Don't know how my
family
> would react but I would have no problem with it. Elaine
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I remember buying this even though I never bought a player. A
friend of mine
> had one and so I was able to see what it looked like. The picture
quality
> wasn't that great. A needle actually read the audio and video
information off
> the disc, and if there was the slightest grit in the groove, the
picture
> skipped.
>
> I do like this cover, although instead of Zaius that's James Daly
as
> Honorius. I like the use of the old Fox logo from the time, and I
remember that this
> was the first video cover that paid special mention of Goldsmith's
score on
> the back.
>
> For some reason I never saved the thing.
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> Hi Every one,
>
> Just to let you know I have made a POTA Time Line, that I just up
> loaded. If you feel there is information missing, or would like to

> other information on it, let me know; and I will consider all
> surgestions, so I can make it hopefully better.
>
> All the best for now.
>
> Peter.
>

>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of your PotaFanFiction
> group.
>
> File : /Planet Of The Apes Timeline.doc
> Uploaded by : peter_karsten63 <peter_karsten63@...>
> Description : A new intensive up to date POTA Time Line as done by Peter
> Karsten, taken from various sources to complete it.
>
> You can access the file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaFanFiction/files/Planet%20Of%20The%20Apes%20Timeline.doc
>
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Thanks for sharing this with is Peter. I haven't had time to read through it all but it looks great.

You can access the file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaFanFiction/files/Planet%20Of%20The%20Apes%20Timeline.doc

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Every one,
>
> Just to let you know I have made a POTA Time Line, that I just up
> loaded. If you feel there is information missing, or would like to add
> other information on it, let me know; and I will consider all
> surgestions, so I can make it hopefully better.
>
> All the best for now.
>
> Peter.
>

>
> Hi Every one,
>
> Just to let you know I have made a POTA Time Line, that I just up
> loaded. If you feel there is information missing, or would like to

> other information on it, let me know; and I will consider all
> surgestions, so I can make it hopefully better.
>
> All the best for now.
>
> Peter.
>

> I'm going totally paranoid. Someone told me about the 'DVD rotting'
> phenomenon. I did some research on the net... basically, it seems a
> DVD is not eternal like I've previously thought.

> Thanks God, if they had already have digitalized the APES movies, they
> are now stored into a database of some sort which acts like "mould"
> for the DVD releases. Anyway, we should purchase more copies of the
> DVDs, keeping them in the package, un-opened.

> Is it definitely true that DVDs can rot, anyway?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Peter, Well, this is quite an endeavor...Congratulations...
> I have also created a timeline (6 pages) that takes strictly from
the
> movies and the dates given therein...I don't think mine is here in
> the site's files, so if you are interested in seeing it, send me
your
> emain and I'll send you a copy...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Every one,
> >
> > Just to let you know I have made a POTA Time Line, that I just up
> > loaded. If you feel there is information missing, or would like
to
> add
> > other information on it, let me know; and I will consider all
> > surgestions, so I can make it hopefully better.
> >
> > All the best for now.
> >
> > Peter.
> >
>

>
> Taebokitti is alive and well and occasionally reading her email.

> my favorite group all the time but right now I am preparing for my
> wedding!!!!!! November 4th!!! Elaine
>

>
> Thanks, James. Nov. 4th is the big day. My future husband is a sci-

> like myself but he prefers Star Trek and Lost in Space. He is a

> hobby room will be half his electronics and half my ape collection.

>

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:25 AM

Subject: Re: [POTA] DVD can rot... is it true? POTA not preservated

> I'm going totally paranoid. Someone told me about the 'DVD rotting'
> phenomenon. I did some research on the net... basically, it seems a
> DVD is not eternal like I've previously thought.

No medium is.

> Thanks God, if they had already have digitalized the APES movies, they
> are now stored into a database of some sort which acts like "mould"
> for the DVD releases. Anyway, we should purchase more copies of the
> DVDs, keeping them in the package, un-opened.

> Is it definitely true that DVDs can rot, anyway?

"Laser rot" in Laserdiscs was a very real phenomenon. Laserdiscs were
created from two discs that were glued together. In many, but not
all, Laserdiscs, The glue holding the two sides together deteriorated
over time, sometimes affecting the discs themselves, causing video
noise or the total inability to play a disc.

It's my understanding that dual-sided DVDs are also glued together,
but that it's a different kind of glue that doesn't have the same
problems as Laserdisc glue did. Single-sided DVDs should not be
susceptible to rotting, though exactly how long they'll last is
anybody's guess.

Hunter

>From: "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] DVD can rot... is it true? POTA not preservated
>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:13:00 -0000
>
>Hey Apesters,
>
>I'm going totally paranoid. Someone told me about the 'DVD rotting'
>phenomenon. I did some research on the net... basically, it seems a
>DVD is not eternal like I've previously thought.
>
>Thanks God, if they had already have digitalized the APES movies, they
>are now stored into a database of some sort which acts like "mould"
>for the DVD releases. Anyway, we should purchase more copies of the
>DVDs, keeping them in the package, un-opened.
>
>Is it definitely true that DVDs can rot, anyway?
>
>
>

>
> Apesters,
>
> "Subway cars are powered by nuclear energy. Light bulbs are

> that can never burn out. Solar energy is widely used. Complete
> nutrition is available in pill form. Organ replacement via Formula
> C3 is in use. Disposable clothing, that can be worn and then washed
> down the drain, is fashionable. Emotional disorders can be treated
> electronically via ENT (Electronic Neurological Treatment)."
>
> This is BURKE's historical account to URKO in 'The Trap'. Since

> too much futuristic, is it safe to assume that he was just re-

> what he learnt from the BOOKS depicting the HISTORY of the many
> centuries which came after his departure from earth (1980)? 26th
> century? (APELINE ONE)
>
> Tell me more, about the dialogue, please. How it is presented?
>
> T.C.
>

>
> Forget DVDs. How long will WE last? - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hunter Goatley
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [POTA] DVD can rot... is it true? POTA not

>
>
> > I'm going totally paranoid. Someone told me about the 'DVD

> > phenomenon. I did some research on the net... basically, it

> > DVD is not eternal like I've previously thought.
>
> No medium is.
>
> > Thanks God, if they had already have digitalized the APES

> > are now stored into a database of some sort which acts

> > for the DVD releases. Anyway, we should purchase more copies

> > DVDs, keeping them in the package, un-opened.
>
> > Is it definitely true that DVDs can rot, anyway?
>
> "Laser rot" in Laserdiscs was a very real phenomenon. Laserdiscs

> created from two discs that were glued together. In many, but not
> all, Laserdiscs, The glue holding the two sides together

> over time, sometimes affecting the discs themselves, causing

> noise or the total inability to play a disc.
>
> It's my understanding that dual-sided DVDs are also glued

> but that it's a different kind of glue that doesn't have the same
> problems as Laserdisc glue did. Single-sided DVDs should not be
> susceptible to rotting, though exactly how long they'll last is
> anybody's guess.
>
> Hunter
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > Forget DVDs. How long will WE last? - - - Jeff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hunter Goatley
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [POTA] DVD can rot... is it true? POTA not
> preservated
> >
> >
> > > I'm going totally paranoid. Someone told me about the 'DVD
> rotting'
> > > phenomenon. I did some research on the net... basically, it
> seems a
> > > DVD is not eternal like I've previously thought.
> >
> > No medium is.
> >
> > > Thanks God, if they had already have digitalized the APES
> movies, they
> > > are now stored into a database of some sort which acts
> like "mould"
> > > for the DVD releases. Anyway, we should purchase more copies
> of the
> > > DVDs, keeping them in the package, un-opened.
> >
> > > Is it definitely true that DVDs can rot, anyway?
> >
> > "Laser rot" in Laserdiscs was a very real phenomenon.

> were
> > created from two discs that were glued together. In many, but

> > all, Laserdiscs, The glue holding the two sides together
> deteriorated
> > over time, sometimes affecting the discs themselves, causing
> video
> > noise or the total inability to play a disc.
> >
> > It's my understanding that dual-sided DVDs are also glued
> together,
> > but that it's a different kind of glue that doesn't have the

> > problems as Laserdisc glue did. Single-sided DVDs should not be
> > susceptible to rotting, though exactly how long they'll last is
> > anybody's guess.
> >
> > Hunter
> >
> Here's how ya do it...
> Get the original, burn it onto a solid cdr and put the orig.
> away...
> Same as a "cassette"...
> Tapes were put on shitty tape meant to wear out. I always put

> tapes on quality tape to keep the Masters pristine. Same with

> Place them on quality cd's and put the masters away...
> If they're copywritten, override it as long as you don't GIVE
> away copies...
> I always believed that the "master copy" deserves a place and

> those who wish to own one need to go out and buy it.
> NEVER GIVE or SELL a COPY, Brother, if you want to see your

> captured on disc at a price you can afford.
> Why do you think it costs so much?
> COPYCOPYCOPY...
> NONONO...
>

Two days late, and I apologize for the delay, but this week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to all who contributed.

To view the LESSON just click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Did Caesar teach Lisa to talk or was she evidence of an evolution
that
> was happening anyway? John, Scrolls.
>

> Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv series got the
> publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a big campaign in papers
> and on the tv?

> Wasn't the characters in the animated series named Bill Hudson and Jeff
> Allen?

> And in what year was Cornelius (Zira's eventual husband) born?

> > Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv
> series got the
> > publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a
> big campaign in papers
> > and on the tv?
>
> I don't remember there being any more promotion for
> it than there was
> for any other new show that Fall. At least I didn't
> see it, if there
> was more than that.
>
> Hunter
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure there was different amount of publicity in
> different areas...perhaps NY & LA had bigger ads in
> the paper.....
>
> Tim
>
>
> --- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > > Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv
> > series got the
> > > publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a
> > big campaign in papers
> > > and on the tv?
> >
> > I don't remember there being any more promotion for
> > it than there was
> > for any other new show that Fall. At least I didn't
> > see it, if there
> > was more than that.
> >
> > Hunter
> >
>
>
>

>
> Was it just a gianteous flop? I don't think so! I suppose tha
> ratings were very good, but not the ones they were expecting.

>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure there was different amount of publicity in
> > different areas...perhaps NY & LA had bigger ads in
> > the paper.....
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > --- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@> wrote:
> >
> > > > Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv
> > > series got the
> > > > publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a
> > > big campaign in papers
> > > > and on the tv?
> > >
> > > I don't remember there being any more promotion for
> > > it than there was
> > > for any other new show that Fall. At least I didn't
> > > see it, if there
> > > was more than that.
> > >
> > > Hunter
> > >
> >
> > I must agree with the Apecaylpse...It was a "ginormous" flop...

> >

On 10/16/06, apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:

FROM 'APECALYPSE NOW':

THE POWER OF CAESAR:

Morphic Resonance:
Unconscious access to the simian morphogenetic field and related
ability of manipulation, that leads to transmission of
cultural/biological "patterns" to all the Apes he interacts with,
thus augumenting their intellectual/biological evolution. When
tapping into the Ape morphic database, he is also able to "acquire"
and mutuate the most useful traits of the species.

A 'morphogenetic field' (a subset of 'morphic field') is a
hypothetical biological (and potentially social) field that contains
the necessary information to shape the form of a living thing, as
part of its epigenetics, and may also shape its behaviour and
coordination with other beings. 'Morphic resonance' is a term coined
by Rupert Sheldrake for what he thinks is "the basis of memory in
nature.... the idea of mysterious telepathy-type interconnections
between organisms and of collective memories within species."

Basically, as evidenced by CONQUEST and, in a lesser form, by
BATTLE, Caesar stimulated the Apes, made them more "receptive" to
language and culture and persuaded them to revolt. He was the
morphic catalyst that "accellerated" their cultural evolution.
That's why the Apes acquired the speech in a "gap" of merely 30
years (they were already provided with capable vocal boxes,
however).

Rupert Sheldrake:
http://www.sheldrake.org/faq/answers.htmlMorphicFields; Morphic
resonance: http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html Morphogenetic fields:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphogenetic_fields

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Did Caesar teach Lisa to talk or was she evidence of an evolution
that
> was happening anyway? John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> Was it just a gianteous flop? I don't think so! I suppose tha
> ratings were very good, but not the ones they were expecting. Right?
>
>

>
> Let me toss this in: When we were writing Revolution, we were VERY

> Caesar's apparent "super-powered brain" and used that as our focal

> Ape Evolution. The power of speech spreads out from Caesar's

> circles, starting on the west coast and eventually spreading out

> America and the Pacific Rim. It made it to the apes of Japan

> Europe because Japan is closer to California than Germany is.
>
> HOWEVER: Aldo's power of speech came primarily from genetic and

> experimentation, rather than simply a proximity to Caesar. Of

> Aldo got near Caesar his evolution sped up much faster than anyone

> and he was able to speak in sentences and form complex thoughts

> was. Lisa BECAME one of history's most intelligent apes, simply

> became Caesar's wife, and was around him more than anyone else.
>
> Although we didn't touch upon it in our first series, we're

> playing with the idea that the first ape in history to speak was

> Aldo or Lisa, but Mandeamus (sp?), who we suggest was one of the

> from Armando's Circus, and was around Caesar longer than any other

> He's clearly an important character in Ape history in the film

> (guarding the armory and all), but little is revealed about him

> other than Caesar has known and trusted him for years. (It's been

> since I read the novel/adaptation of Battle, so if there's anything
> important about this character revealed in there that I've

> me know now before I make another continuity error.)
>
> Does that help?
>
> Ty the Guy.
>
>
>
> On 10/16/06, apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
> >
> > FROM 'APECALYPSE NOW':
> >
> > THE POWER OF CAESAR:
> >
> > Morphic Resonance:
> > Unconscious access to the simian morphogenetic field and related
> > ability of manipulation, that leads to transmission of
> > cultural/biological "patterns" to all the Apes he interacts with,
> > thus augumenting their intellectual/biological evolution. When
> > tapping into the Ape morphic database, he is also able

> > and mutuate the most useful traits of the species.
> >
> > A 'morphogenetic field' (a subset of 'morphic field') is a
> > hypothetical biological (and potentially social) field that

> > the necessary information to shape the form of a living thing, as
> > part of its epigenetics, and may also shape its behaviour and
> > coordination with other beings. 'Morphic resonance' is a term

> > by Rupert Sheldrake for what he thinks is "the basis of memory in
> > nature.... the idea of mysterious telepathy-type interconnections
> > between organisms and of collective memories within species."
> >
> > Basically, as evidenced by CONQUEST and, in a lesser form, by
> > BATTLE, Caesar stimulated the Apes, made them more "receptive" to
> > language and culture and persuaded them to revolt. He was the
> > morphic catalyst that "accellerated" their cultural evolution.
> > That's why the Apes acquired the speech in a "gap" of merely 30
> > years (they were already provided with capable vocal boxes,
> > however).
> >
> > Rupert Sheldrake:
> > http://www.sheldrake.org/faq/answers.htmlMorphicFields; Morphic
> > resonance: http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html Morphogenetic

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphogenetic_fields
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%

> > <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Did Caesar teach Lisa to talk or was she evidence of an

> > that
> > > was happening anyway? John, Scrolls.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> I remember being told as a child (I never read it myself) when the

> was airing that TV Guide had a blurb regarding the poor ratings that
> stated "The only ones watching Planet of the Apes are two old ladies
> and a Zookeeper." (yeah, I didn't get it either.....)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@> wrote:
> >
> > Was it just a gianteous flop? I don't think so! I suppose tha
> > ratings were very good, but not the ones they were expecting. Right?
> >
> >
>

>
> I remember being told as a child (I never read it myself) when the

> was airing that TV Guide had a blurb regarding the poor ratings that
> stated "The only ones watching Planet of the Apes are two old ladies
> and a Zookeeper." (yeah, I didn't get it either.....)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@> wrote:
> >
> > Was it just a gianteous flop? I don't think so! I suppose tha
> > ratings were very good, but not the ones they were expecting.

> >
> >
>

>
> Let me toss this in: When we were writing Revolution, we were

> Caesar's apparent "super-powered brain" and used that as our focal

> Ape Evolution. The power of speech spreads out from Caesar's

> circles, starting on the west coast and eventually spreading out

> America and the Pacific Rim. It made it to the apes of Japan

> Europe because Japan is closer to California than Germany is.
>
> HOWEVER: Aldo's power of speech came primarily from genetic and

> experimentation, rather than simply a proximity to Caesar. Of

> Aldo got near Caesar his evolution sped up much faster than anyone

> and he was able to speak in sentences and form complex thoughts

> was. Lisa BECAME one of history's most intelligent apes, simply

> became Caesar's wife, and was around him more than anyone else.
>
> Although we didn't touch upon it in our first series, we're

> playing with the idea that the first ape in history to speak was

> Aldo or Lisa, but Mandeamus (sp?), who we suggest was one of the

> from Armando's Circus, and was around Caesar longer than any other

> He's clearly an important character in Ape history in the film

> (guarding the armory and all), but little is revealed about him

> other than Caesar has known and trusted him for years. (It's been

> since I read the novel/adaptation of Battle, so if there's anything
> important about this character revealed in there that I've

> me know now before I make another continuity error.)
>
> Does that help?
>
> Ty the Guy.
>
> But our primitives don't possess the vocal chords to speak.

>
> On 10/16/06, apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
> >
> > FROM 'APECALYPSE NOW':
> >
> > THE POWER OF CAESAR:
> >
> > Morphic Resonance:
> > Unconscious access to the simian morphogenetic field and related
> > ability of manipulation, that leads to transmission of
> > cultural/biological "patterns" to all the Apes he interacts with,
> > thus augumenting their intellectual/biological evolution. When
> > tapping into the Ape morphic database, he is also able

> > and mutuate the most useful traits of the species.
> >
> > A 'morphogenetic field' (a subset of 'morphic field') is a
> > hypothetical biological (and potentially social) field that

> > the necessary information to shape the form of a living thing, as
> > part of its epigenetics, and may also shape its behaviour and
> > coordination with other beings. 'Morphic resonance' is a term

> > by Rupert Sheldrake for what he thinks is "the basis of memory in
> > nature.... the idea of mysterious telepathy-type interconnections
> > between organisms and of collective memories within species."
> >
> > Basically, as evidenced by CONQUEST and, in a lesser form, by
> > BATTLE, Caesar stimulated the Apes, made them more "receptive" to
> > language and culture and persuaded them to revolt. He was the
> > morphic catalyst that "accellerated" their cultural evolution.
> > That's why the Apes acquired the speech in a "gap" of merely 30
> > years (they were already provided with capable vocal boxes,
> > however).
> >
> > Rupert Sheldrake:
> > http://www.sheldrake.org/faq/answers.htmlMorphicFields; Morphic
> > resonance: http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html Morphogenetic

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphogenetic_fields
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%

> > <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Did Caesar teach Lisa to talk or was she evidence of an

> > that
> > > was happening anyway? John, Scrolls.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> Let me toss this in: When we were writing Revolution, we were
VERY aware of
> Caesar's apparent "super-powered brain" and used that as our focal
point for
> Ape Evolution. The power of speech spreads out from Caesar's
revolution in
> circles, starting on the west coast and eventually spreading out
across
> America and the Pacific Rim. It made it to the apes of Japan
BEFORE most of
> Europe because Japan is closer to California than Germany is.
>
> HOWEVER: Aldo's power of speech came primarily from genetic and
biological
> experimentation, rather than simply a proximity to Caesar. Of
course, once
> Aldo got near Caesar his evolution sped up much faster than anyone
else's,
> and he was able to speak in sentences and form complex thoughts
before Lisa
> was. Lisa BECAME one of history's most intelligent apes, simply
because she
> became Caesar's wife, and was around him more than anyone else.
>
> Although we didn't touch upon it in our first series, we're
currently
> playing with the idea that the first ape in history to speak was
NEITHER
> Aldo or Lisa, but Mandeamus (sp?), who we suggest was one of the
other apes
> from Armando's Circus, and was around Caesar longer than any other
ape.
> He's clearly an important character in Ape history in the film
Battle
> (guarding the armory and all), but little is revealed about him
onscreen
> other than Caesar has known and trusted him for years. (It's been
a while
> since I read the novel/adaptation of Battle, so if there's anything
> important about this character revealed in there that I've
forgotten, do let
> me know now before I make another continuity error.)
>
> Does that help?
>
> Ty the Guy.
>
>
>
> On 10/16/06, apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
> >
> > FROM 'APECALYPSE NOW':
> >
> > THE POWER OF CAESAR:
> >
> > Morphic Resonance:
> > Unconscious access to the simian morphogenetic field and related
> > ability of manipulation, that leads to transmission of
> > cultural/biological "patterns" to all the Apes he interacts with,
> > thus augumenting their intellectual/biological evolution. When
> > tapping into the Ape morphic database, he is also able
to "acquire"
> > and mutuate the most useful traits of the species.
> >
> > A 'morphogenetic field' (a subset of 'morphic field') is a
> > hypothetical biological (and potentially social) field that
contains
> > the necessary information to shape the form of a living thing, as
> > part of its epigenetics, and may also shape its behaviour and
> > coordination with other beings. 'Morphic resonance' is a term
coined
> > by Rupert Sheldrake for what he thinks is "the basis of memory in
> > nature.... the idea of mysterious telepathy-type interconnections
> > between organisms and of collective memories within species."
> >
> > Basically, as evidenced by CONQUEST and, in a lesser form, by
> > BATTLE, Caesar stimulated the Apes, made them more "receptive" to
> > language and culture and persuaded them to revolt. He was the
> > morphic catalyst that "accellerated" their cultural evolution.
> > That's why the Apes acquired the speech in a "gap" of merely 30
> > years (they were already provided with capable vocal boxes,
> > however).
> >
> > Rupert Sheldrake:
> > http://www.sheldrake.org/faq/answers.htmlMorphicFields; Morphic
> > resonance: http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html Morphogenetic
fields:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphogenetic_fields
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%
40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002"
> > <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Did Caesar teach Lisa to talk or was she evidence of an
evolution
> > that
> > > was happening anyway? John, Scrolls.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Just wondering if anyone has ever attempted an Ape fan film. I doubt it because
of the makeup etc ?

Robert Mansell

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Todd Mount <toddmount@...> wrote:
>
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rarities disc??

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <minuteman1986@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fellow Ape Enthusiasts
>
> I been toying with RPG for a while now and i got a idea recently
and
> it was before i stumbled on this site
>
> I wanted to do a POTA RPG with a twist
> Now i dont want to make any purists mad but its time for a change
>
> There has been a few of the POTA movies released and each of them
> has its + and its -/. The original is the master and i love it and
> then you got the Dwellers from the Beneath. I love the battle of
> the planet of the apes almost impossible to watch anymore. Escape
> is ok because i like the idea of the apes and humans being
together
> almost on the same plane.
>
> Of coursee you have one of the more scary ones Conquest of the
> planet of the apes which is excellent and proves what happens when
> we take liberties with out servants or pets and then come back and
> bite us in the BUTTS..
>
> Leads me to where i started with this
> I wante to a RP with a combined with most of the movies
>
> I want to have the Apes to have Marital LAW power and be able to
> rule the city BUT have laws set up where they cant take every human
> prisoner when they please.
>
> Can we just have a society where Humans and APes were equal
> and have the same power HUH
>
> Probably not and that would make for some interesting Role playing
>
> IM not a GREAT KNOW everything about this stuff
> and want it authentic just not to the point where people may not or
> care what they read
>
> Anyone who wishes to take part when i get the site together
> or would like to expand on my ideas i would be glad to put them in
> there and send the link to those who are interested in this venture
>
> Thanks for the group
>
> Mike
>

>
> Hi Zack,
>
> Thanks for the query.
>
> I will double check on the animated astronauts names when I can

> you know.
>
> And yes, Cornelius is missing, but I hope to have that birthday in

> Timeline soon.
>
> I do have other information to add to the Timeline so when I have

> spare time, I will work on it, and upload an updated version.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Peter.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: shanter2002

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:05 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: TV SERIES PLUGGING

See, this feeds a conspiracy theory I've been pondering for a while--
did CBS deliberately bury the Apes series because they had already
gotten cold feet over the budget.Such things are not unheard of in TV
Land and the apparent lack of a marketing campaign, and the unseemly
haste in cancelling the show, with no attempt to re-scedule(a la Six
Million Dollar Man) suggests a lack of studio support for the show--a
show which was later proven, with the spliced together movies, to have
a solid audience.I think the series was dead before it got started.
John, Scrolls.
>
> I remember being told as a child (I never read it myself) when the
show
> was airing that TV Guide had a blurb regarding the poor ratings that
> stated "The only ones watching Planet of the Apes are two old ladies
> and a Zookeeper." (yeah, I didn't get it either.....)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@ > wrote:
> >
> > Was it just a gianteous flop? I don't think so! I suppose tha
> > ratings were very good, but not the ones they were expecting. Right?
> >
> >
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <robert.mansell@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:41 AM
Subject: [POTA] Ape Fan Films


Just wondering if anyone has ever attempted an Ape fan film. I doubt it
because
of the makeup etc ?

Robert Mansell

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <minuteman1986@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fellow Ape Enthusiasts
>
> I been toying with RPG for a while now and i got a idea recently
and
> it was before i stumbled on this site
>
> I wanted to do a POTA RPG with a twist
> Now i dont want to make any purists mad but its time for a change
>
> There has been a few of the POTA movies released and each of them
> has its + and its -/. The original is the master and i love it and
> then you got the Dwellers from the Beneath. I love the battle of
> the planet of the apes almost impossible to watch anymore.
Escape
> is ok because i like the idea of the apes and humans being
together
> almost on the same plane.
>
> Of coursee you have one of the more scary ones Conquest of the
> planet of the apes which is excellent and proves what happens when
> we take liberties with out servants or pets and then come back and
> bite us in the BUTTS..
>
> Leads me to where i started with this
> I wante to a RP with a combined with most of the movies
>
> I want to have the Apes to have Marital LAW power and be able to
> rule the city BUT have laws set up where they cant take every
human
> prisoner when they please.
>
> Can we just have a society where Humans and APes were equal
> and have the same power HUH
>
> Probably not and that would make for some interesting Role playing
>
> IM not a GREAT KNOW everything about this stuff
> and want it authentic just not to the point where people may not
or
> care what they read
>
> Anyone who wishes to take part when i get the site together
> or would like to expand on my ideas i would be glad to put them in
> there and send the link to those who are interested in this venture
>
> Thanks for the group
>
> Mike
>

Hi,

Is this RPG a computer game that you wish to develop?

Peter.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Michael" <minuteman1986@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fellow Ape Enthusiasts
>
> I been toying with RPG for a while now and i got a idea recently
and
> it was before i stumbled on this site
>
> I wanted to do a POTA RPG with a twist
> Now i dont want to make any purists mad but its time for a change
>
> There has been a few of the POTA movies released and each of them
> has its + and its -/. The original is the master and i love it and
> then you got the Dwellers from the Beneath. I love the battle of
> the planet of the apes almost impossible to watch anymore.
Escape
> is ok because i like the idea of the apes and humans being
together
> almost on the same plane.
>
> Of coursee you have one of the more scary ones Conquest of the
> planet of the apes which is excellent and proves what happens when
> we take liberties with out servants or pets and then come back and
> bite us in the BUTTS..
>
> Leads me to where i started with this
> I wante to a RP with a combined with most of the movies
>
> I want to have the Apes to have Marital LAW power and be able to
> rule the city BUT have laws set up where they cant take every
human
> prisoner when they please.
>
> Can we just have a society where Humans and APes were equal
> and have the same power HUH
>
> Probably not and that would make for some interesting Role playing
>
> IM not a GREAT KNOW everything about this stuff
> and want it authentic just not to the point where people may not
or
> care what they read
>
> Anyone who wishes to take part when i get the site together
> or would like to expand on my ideas i would be glad to put them in
> there and send the link to those who are interested in this venture
>
> Thanks for the group
>
> Mike
>

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>
> From what I understand the big stumbling block with the TV show

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shanter2002
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:05 AM
> Subject: [POTA] Re: TV SERIES PLUGGING
>
>
> See, this feeds a conspiracy theory I've been pondering for a

> did CBS deliberately bury the Apes series because they had

> gotten cold feet over the budget.Such things are not unheard of

> Land and the apparent lack of a marketing campaign, and the

> haste in cancelling the show, with no attempt to re-scedule(a la

> Million Dollar Man) suggests a lack of studio support for the

> show which was later proven, with the spliced together movies, to

> a solid audience.I think the series was dead before it got

> John, Scrolls.
> >
> > I remember being told as a child (I never read it myself) when

> show
> > was airing that TV Guide had a blurb regarding the poor ratings

> > stated "The only ones watching Planet of the Apes are two old

> > and a Zookeeper." (yeah, I didn't get it either.....)
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@>

> > >
> > > Was it just a gianteous flop? I don't think so! I suppose tha
> > > ratings were very good, but not the ones they were expecting.

> > >
> > >
> >
>

>
>had it been a massive, massive hit, they may have reconsidered.

> EVERY show in the 70s would have been cancelled early on that
> basis.

> I don't
> agree with the 'pale shadow' mantra trotted out when comparing it
> with the movies.

Sounds interesting, Mike...Keep us posted, okay?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Michael" <minuteman1986@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fellow Ape Enthusiasts
>
> I been toying with RPG for a while now and i got a idea recently
and
> it was before i stumbled on this site
>
> I wanted to do a POTA RPG with a twist
> Now i dont want to make any purists mad but its time for a change
>
> There has been a few of the POTA movies released and each of them
> has its + and its -/. The original is the master and i love it and
> then you got the Dwellers from the Beneath. I love the battle of
> the planet of the apes almost impossible to watch anymore. Escape
> is ok because i like the idea of the apes and humans being
together
> almost on the same plane.
>
> Of coursee you have one of the more scary ones Conquest of the
> planet of the apes which is excellent and proves what happens when
> we take liberties with out servants or pets and then come back and
> bite us in the BUTTS..
>
> Leads me to where i started with this
> I wante to a RP with a combined with most of the movies
>
> I want to have the Apes to have Marital LAW power and be able to
> rule the city BUT have laws set up where they cant take every human
> prisoner when they please.
>
> Can we just have a society where Humans and APes were equal
> and have the same power HUH
>
> Probably not and that would make for some interesting Role playing
>
> IM not a GREAT KNOW everything about this stuff
> and want it authentic just not to the point where people may not or
> care what they read
>
> Anyone who wishes to take part when i get the site together
> or would like to expand on my ideas i would be glad to put them in
> there and send the link to those who are interested in this venture
>
> Thanks for the group
>
> Mike
>

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>
> What is RPG?
> JR

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, jose ramon <joseramonruizdiez@ ...> wrote:
>
> What is RPG?
> JR

Role Playing Game.

Dave

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
> group.
>
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> Uploaded by : smugster2000 <smugster2000@...>
> Description : Official Fox image cleaned up for use as wallpaper
to anyone who wants it.
>
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>

> I was in Walmart today and noticed Both for under $20

> Season I of the animated series of the Planet of the Apes

> and return to the planet of the Apes(the one with Roddy Mcdowell) playing Galen

> Is there a network out there that still shows the planet of the apes movies
> or they just out on DVD?VHS all the movies

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <minuteman1986@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fellow Ape Enthusiasts
>
> I been toying with RPG for a while now and i got a idea recently
and
> it was before i stumbled on this site
>
> I wanted to do a POTA RPG with a twist
> Now i dont want to make any purists mad but its time for a change
>
> There has been a few of the POTA movies released and each of them
> has its + and its -/. The original is the master and i love it and
> then you got the Dwellers from the Beneath. I love the battle of
> the planet of the apes almost impossible to watch anymore. Escape
> is ok because i like the idea of the apes and humans being
together
> almost on the same plane.
>
> Of coursee you have one of the more scary ones Conquest of the
> planet of the apes which is excellent and proves what happens when
> we take liberties with out servants or pets and then come back and
> bite us in the BUTTS..
>
> Leads me to where i started with this
> I wante to a RP with a combined with most of the movies
>
> I want to have the Apes to have Marital LAW power and be able to
> rule the city BUT have laws set up where they cant take every human
> prisoner when they please.
>
> Can we just have a society where Humans and APes were equal
> and have the same power HUH
>
> Probably not and that would make for some interesting Role playing
>
> IM not a GREAT KNOW everything about this stuff
> and want it authentic just not to the point where people may not or
> care what they read
>
> Anyone who wishes to take part when i get the site together
> or would like to expand on my ideas i would be glad to put them in
> there and send the link to those who are interested in this venture
>
> Thanks for the group
>
> Mike
>






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____________

> > I don't
> > agree with the 'pale shadow' mantra trotted out when comparing it
> > with the movies.
>
> It does seem unfair to compare a 70's weekly TV show to a major

>
> Dave
>

>
> For all those wondering whatever happened to
> Christopher Sausville who wrote the collectibles
> book......
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-LOT-MUST-

>
> Tim
>
> _WHO?

>
> What is RPG?
> JR
>
> hotscheetz <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
> Sounds interesting, Mike...Keep us posted, okay?...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <minuteman1986@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Fellow Ape Enthusiasts
> >
> > I been toying with RPG for a while now and i got a idea recently
> and
> > it was before i stumbled on this site
> >
> > I wanted to do a POTA RPG with a twist
> > Now i dont want to make any purists mad but its time for a change
> >
> > There has been a few of the POTA movies released and each of

> > has its + and its -/. The original is the master and i love it

> > then you got the Dwellers from the Beneath. I love the battle of
> > the planet of the apes almost impossible to watch anymore.

> > is ok because i like the idea of the apes and humans being
> together
> > almost on the same plane.
> >
> > Of coursee you have one of the more scary ones Conquest of the
> > planet of the apes which is excellent and proves what happens

> > we take liberties with out servants or pets and then come back

> > bite us in the BUTTS..
> >
> > Leads me to where i started with this
> > I wante to a RP with a combined with most of the movies
> >
> > I want to have the Apes to have Marital LAW power and be able to
> > rule the city BUT have laws set up where they cant take every

> > prisoner when they please.
> >
> > Can we just have a society where Humans and APes were equal
> > and have the same power HUH
> >
> > Probably not and that would make for some interesting Role

> >
> > IM not a GREAT KNOW everything about this stuff
> > and want it authentic just not to the point where people may not

> > care what they read
> >
> > Anyone who wishes to take part when i get the site together
> > or would like to expand on my ideas i would be glad to put them

> > there and send the link to those who are interested in this

> >
> > Thanks for the group
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
>
> Okay: you have the 2001 release...Now, let's fix THAT ONE, Mike...

>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 10/19/2006 10:14:50 A.M. Central Standard
Time,
> john@... writes:
>
> Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her pregnant?
I
> don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a few
weeks
> after, in Beneath
>
>
>
> I disagree. There are nearly no time references in that
> entire series, with the exception of "It's been six months . . ."
> or "It's been weeks!" What are you making this claim on?
> And perhaps their morality is different. Maybe they're
> Bonobos!
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her pregnant? I
> don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a few weeks
> after, in Beneath, and Milo/Caesar appears uncomfortably early in
> Escape--do we pre-suppose that ALL of Milo/Caesar's gestation took
> place in space(apart from the few days in LA) and, if so, it was
lucky
> that this gestation period was so close to the length of time in
> Space.John, the moral majority,Scrolls.
>

> _The Japan Times Online - Cornelius pops back with
> touching sounds_
>

>
>

>
> It's just one of the writer's ploys to propel the story along,

> continuity errors...
> The events in POTA and BTPOTA took just over two months, and the

> in EFTPOTA took about a week...Chimps gestate eight months, so,

> you are...
> You have to remember that in those days, people just went to the

> to be entertained, the storyline didn't have to be 100%

>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her pregnant?

> > don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a few

> > after, in Beneath, and Milo/Caesar appears uncomfortably early in
> > Escape--do we pre-suppose that ALL of Milo/Caesar's gestation

> > place in space(apart from the few days in LA) and, if so, it was
> lucky
> > that this gestation period was so close to the length of time in
> > Space.John, the moral majority,Scrolls.
> >
>

>
>
> In a message dated 10/19/2006 10:14:50 A.M. Central Standard

> john@... writes:
>
> Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her pregnant?

> don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a few

> after, in Beneath
>
>
>
> I disagree. There are nearly no time references in that
> entire series, with the exception of "It's been six months . . ."
> or "It's been weeks!" What are you making this claim on?
> And perhaps their morality is different. Maybe they're
> Bonobos!
> Gotta love 'em, them little love bugs! ;>

>
> Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her pregnant?

> don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a few

> after, in Beneath, and Milo/Caesar appears uncomfortably early in
> Escape--do we pre-suppose that ALL of Milo/Caesar's gestation took
> place in space(apart from the few days in LA) and, if so, it was

> that this gestation period was so close to the length of time in
> Space.John, the moral majority,Scrolls.
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her

> I
> > don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a few
> weeks
> > after, in Beneath, and Milo/Caesar appears uncomfortably early

> > Escape--do we pre-suppose that ALL of Milo/Caesar's gestation

> > place in space(apart from the few days in LA) and, if so, it was
> lucky
> > that this gestation period was so close to the length of time in
> > Space.John, the moral majority,Scrolls.
> >
>
> An apes gestation is about as long as a humans, but Zira was

> showing and no one knew until she fainted in the meuseum meaning

> was in her first trimester...
> How long were they in the "modern world"? It never really
> specified.So, she had to have gotten pregnant while visiting, thus
> the time-line having been cut out of the middle to shorten the

> They were here a long time before the sh*t hit the fan...
>

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>
> Okay,
>
> According to my scenario, and as far as we can see *EVIDENCED* on
> screen, ESCAPE covers one year of "storytelling".
> ZIRA was "barely" pregnant in BENEATH, which is placed MONTHS after
> PLANET (maybe 7). In order to be genetically "modified" by the Time
> Warp, Milo Jr. had to be an EMBRYO, which is plausible to me since
> Zira didn't show any sign of pregnancy before.
>
> Basically:
>
> PLANET - Starting point: November 3978 A.C. The events depicted by
> the movie occurred in a span of MONTHS.
>
> BENEATH: August 3979.
>
> ESCAPE: The 3 Ape-O-Nauts "merged" in March 1973 A.C., the scene in
> the museum is firlmy placed in July 1973 A.C., Milo born in

> 1973 A.C. like Jesus Christ.
>
> Am I right? There no evidence I could be wrong...
>
> T.C.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
> <thadesdarlinghuman@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her
> pregnant?
> > I
> > > don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a few
> > weeks
> > > after, in Beneath, and Milo/Caesar appears uncomfortably early
> in
> > > Escape--do we pre-suppose that ALL of Milo/Caesar's gestation
> took
> > > place in space(apart from the few days in LA) and, if so, it

> > lucky
> > > that this gestation period was so close to the length of time

> > > Space.John, the moral majority,Scrolls.
> > >
> >
> > An apes gestation is about as long as a humans, but Zira was
> not
> > showing and no one knew until she fainted in the meuseum meaning
> she
> > was in her first trimester...
> > How long were they in the "modern world"? It never really
> > specified.So, she had to have gotten pregnant while visiting,

> > the time-line having been cut out of the middle to shorten the
> film.
> > They were here a long time before the sh*t hit the fan...
> >
>