>
> Digital Bits reported today that Fox is working on a Blue Ray

> of POTA 2001. Anyone care?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Did Caesar teach Lisa to talk or was she evidence of an evolution
that
> was happening anyway? John, Scrolls.
>

>
> Apesters,
>
> "Subway cars are powered by nuclear energy. Light bulbs are

> that can never burn out. Solar energy is widely used. Complete
> nutrition is available in pill form. Organ replacement via Formula
> C3 is in use. Disposable clothing, that can be worn and then washed
> down the drain, is fashionable. Emotional disorders can be treated
> electronically via ENT (Electronic Neurological Treatment)."
>
> This is BURKE's historical account to URKO in 'The Trap'. Since

> too much futuristic, is it safe to assume that he was just re-

> what he learnt from the BOOKS depicting the HISTORY of the many
> centuries which came after his departure from earth (1980)? 26th
> century? (APELINE ONE)
>
> Tell me more, about the dialogue, please. How it is presented?
>
> T.C.
>

>
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>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv series got the
> publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a big campaign in
papers
> and on the tv? There seems not to have been a big audience and maybe
it
> was a matter of presentation, as well as scheduling.Maybe the
> executives already had cold feet about the budget BEFORE
transmission?
> John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> From what I understand the big stumbling block with the TV show was
William Paley, the head of CBS. They did the show because of the
success of the movies on TV but he didn't get behind the show once it
was on. He said something like, "I won't have any "ape" program on my
network". - - - Jeff
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> See, this feeds a conspiracy theory I've been pondering for a while-
-
> did CBS deliberately bury the Apes series because they had already
> gotten cold feet over the budget.Such things are not unheard of in
TV
> Land and the apparent lack of a marketing campaign, and the
unseemly
> haste in cancelling the show, with no attempt to re-scedule(a la
Six
> Million Dollar Man) suggests a lack of studio support for the show--
a
> show which was later proven, with the spliced together movies, to
have
> a solid audience.I think the series was dead before it got started.
> John, Scrolls.
> >
> > I remember being told as a child (I never read it myself) when
the
> show
> > was airing that TV Guide had a blurb regarding the poor ratings
that
> > stated "The only ones watching Planet of the Apes are two old
ladies
> > and a Zookeeper." (yeah, I didn't get it either.....)
> >

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> It's just one of the writer's ploys to propel the story along, making
a
> continuity errors...
> The events in POTA and BTPOTA took just over two months, and the
events
> in EFTPOTA took about a week...Chimps gestate eight months, so, there
> you are...
> You have to remember that in those days, people just went to the
movies
> to be entertained, the storyline didn't have to be 100% airtight!...=)
>
> G
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I think I read somewhere that Paley's wife was down on having Apes as
> part of her husband's reume.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I don't want to speak for everyone, but I assume the general
consensus
> would be that no episode would "pale" next to BATTLE. (No, I'm not
> hating on Battle, just being honest)
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> For all those wondering whatever happened to
> Christopher Sausville who wrote the collectibles
> book......
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-LOT-MUST-
SEE_W0QQitemZ120042822690QQihZ002QQcategoryZ12592QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Tim
>
>

There is a Chronology in the group's Database section which attempts to do so.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Let's have some fellow Apesters write some kind of story bridging the events
> with PLANET, BENEATH
>
> and ESCAPE. It would finally tie up a lot of loose ends here.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> G., could you send the Timeline to me, too? My e-mail addy is:
> zasco1957@... Thanks.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 10/20/06 18:01:32
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Chronology ESCAPE
>
>
>
> T.C., The Timeline I assembled from only the given, calculable
times
>
> in the movies shows that Brent arrived about two months after
Taylor,
>
> and EFTPOTA only covers about a week's time...
>
> My Timeline's 6 pages, if you'd like me to send it to you...Contact
>
> me via email, if so...
>
>
>
> G
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@>
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Okay,
>
> >
>
> > According to my scenario, and as far as we can see *EVIDENCED* on
>
> > screen, ESCAPE covers one year of "storytelling".
>
> > ZIRA was "barely" pregnant in BENEATH, which is placed MONTHS
after
>
> > PLANET (maybe 7). In order to be genetically "modified" by the
Time
>
> > Warp, Milo Jr. had to be an EMBRYO, which is plausible to me
since
>
> > Zira didn't show any sign of pregnancy before.
>
> >
>
> > Basically:
>
> >
>
> > PLANET - Starting point: November 3978 A.C. The events depicted
by
>
> > the movie occurred in a span of MONTHS.
>
> >
>
> > BENEATH: August 3979.
>
> >
>
> > ESCAPE: The 3 Ape-O-Nauts "merged" in March 1973 A.C., the scene
in
>
> > the museum is firlmy placed in July 1973 A.C., Milo born in
>
> December
>
> > 1973 A.C. like Jesus Christ.
>
> >
>
> > Am I right? There no evidence I could be wrong...
>
> >
>
> > T.C.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
>
> > <thadesdarlinghuman@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Did Zira HAVE to get married, because Cornelius got her
>
> > pregnant?
>
> > > I
>
> > > > don't think they're married in Planet, but they are, only a
few
>
> > > weeks
>
> > > > after, in Beneath, and Milo/Caesar appears uncomfortably
early
>
> > in
>
> > > > Escape--do we pre-suppose that ALL of Milo/Caesar's gestation
>
> > took
>
> > > > place in space(apart from the few days in LA) and, if so, it
>
> was
>
> > > lucky
>
> > > > that this gestation period was so close to the length of time
>
> in
>
> > > > Space.John, the moral majority,Scrolls.
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > An apes gestation is about as long as a humans, but Zira was
>
> > not
>
> > > showing and no one knew until she fainted in the meuseum
meaning
>
> > she
>
> > > was in her first trimester...
>
> > > How long were they in the "modern world"? It never really
>
> > > specified.So, she had to have gotten pregnant while visiting,
>
> thus
>
> > > the time-line having been cut out of the middle to shorten the
>
> > film.
>
> > > They were here a long time before the sh*t hit the fan...
>
> > >
>
> >
>

>
> I think it is more than a theory. Fred Silverman the President of

> at the time resented having the show forced on him by the Paleys.

> is the person responsible for moving the show from Tuesday to

> where it was up against two of the hottest comedies of the time.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > See, this feeds a conspiracy theory I've been pondering for a

> -
> > did CBS deliberately bury the Apes series because they had

> > gotten cold feet over the budget.Such things are not unheard of

> TV
> > Land and the apparent lack of a marketing campaign, and the
> unseemly
> > haste in cancelling the show, with no attempt to re-scedule(a la
> Six
> > Million Dollar Man) suggests a lack of studio support for the

> a
> > show which was later proven, with the spliced together movies, to
> have
> > a solid audience.I think the series was dead before it got

> > John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > > I remember being told as a child (I never read it myself) when
> the
> > show
> > > was airing that TV Guide had a blurb regarding the poor ratings
> that
> > > stated "The only ones watching Planet of the Apes are two old
> ladies
> > > and a Zookeeper." (yeah, I didn't get it either.....)
> > >
>

>
> Digital Bits reported today that Fox is working on a Blue Ray release
> of POTA 2001. Anyone care?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Other than the 'Go Ape!' festival in theaters I don't remember CBS
> doing anything more than they did for other new shows debuting that
> year.
> However, the series was originally scheduled for Tuesday nights. At
the
> last minute Fred Silverman switched it to Fridays. The show Good
Times
> had been in the Friday slot and had done well the previous year. So
the
> reasoning for switching the two shows is still a bit fuzzy. Now the
> question is would the POTA done better on Tuesdays against Happy
Days,
> which was not yet a hit but was gaining in popularity. Good Times
held
> its own against Happy Days for a few years. Would POTA have done
better
> or worse?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv series got the
> > publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a big campaign in
> papers
> > and on the tv? There seems not to have been a big audience and
maybe
> it
> > was a matter of presentation, as well as scheduling.Maybe the
> > executives already had cold feet about the budget BEFORE
> transmission?
> > John, Scrolls.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> _Entertainment Re-oriented: Asian Remakes Rule the Box Office_
>
(http://www.nichibeitimes.com/issues/articles/101906/asianremakes.html
> Nichi Bei Times - San Francisco,CA,USA
> ... Whether it’s remakes of b-movies (“Planet of the Apes”),
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 10/22/2006 1:06:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> HotScheetz@... writes:
>
> The way this reads to me, this Ben Hamamoto is calling POTA2001 a
b-
> movie, not the classic...
>
> G

>
>
> Then you're reading it wrong.
> He said remaking a B-movie.
> But I never listen to the reviews
> that come out of Frisco. Jaded F******!
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> I don't think so...I think the problem was the small minds in
> charge...TV was too "formulated", as in "good guy being always
chased
> by bad guy"..."Good guy meets new person, but must leave"...That
> started with "The Fugitive" and "Run for Your Life", and continued
> through "Logan's Run" and "Planet of the Apes"...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > Other than the 'Go Ape!' festival in theaters I don't remember
CBS
> > doing anything more than they did for other new shows debuting
that
> > year.
> > However, the series was originally scheduled for Tuesday nights.
At
> the
> > last minute Fred Silverman switched it to Fridays. The show Good
> Times
> > had been in the Friday slot and had done well the previous year.
So
> the
> > reasoning for switching the two shows is still a bit fuzzy. Now
the
> > question is would the POTA done better on Tuesdays against Happy
> Days,
> > which was not yet a hit but was gaining in popularity. Good
Times
> held
> > its own against Happy Days for a few years. Would POTA have done
> better
> > or worse?
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv series got
the
> > > publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a big campaign
in
> > papers
> > > and on the tv? There seems not to have been a big audience and
> maybe
> > it
> > > was a matter of presentation, as well as scheduling.Maybe the
> > > executives already had cold feet about the budget BEFORE
> > transmission?
> > > John, Scrolls.
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> The review that infuriates me is the Leonard Maltin book. POTA
> is "Modern near-classic sci-fi." NEAR-CLASSIC? WHAT?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/22/2006 1:06:23 P.M. Central Standard
Time,
> > HotScheetz@ writes:
> >
> > The way this reads to me, this Ben Hamamoto is calling POTA2001
a
> b-
> > movie, not the classic...
> >
> > G
>
> >
> >
> > Then you're reading it wrong.
> > He said remaking a B-movie.
> > But I never listen to the reviews
> > that come out of Frisco. Jaded F******!
> >
>

>
> Wait a moment...
>
> Did the series "fruit" good ratings anyway, or was it an absolute
> fiasco? After all, in UK it was an istant hit, and even in the
> States it managed to earn a "cult status" of some sort (retained
> still today).
>
> So was it a moderate success in U.S.A, promotional push or not?
>
> T.C.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think so...I think the problem was the small minds in
> > charge...TV was too "formulated", as in "good guy being always
> chased
> > by bad guy"..."Good guy meets new person, but must leave"...That
> > started with "The Fugitive" and "Run for Your Life", and

> > through "Logan's Run" and "Planet of the Apes"...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Other than the 'Go Ape!' festival in theaters I don't remember
> CBS
> > > doing anything more than they did for other new shows debuting
> that
> > > year.
> > > However, the series was originally scheduled for Tuesday

> At
> > the
> > > last minute Fred Silverman switched it to Fridays. The show

> > Times
> > > had been in the Friday slot and had done well the previous

> So
> > the
> > > reasoning for switching the two shows is still a bit fuzzy. Now
> the
> > > question is would the POTA done better on Tuesdays against

> > Days,
> > > which was not yet a hit but was gaining in popularity. Good
> Times
> > held
> > > its own against Happy Days for a few years. Would POTA have

> > better
> > > or worse?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv series got
> the
> > > > publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a big campaign
> in
> > > papers
> > > > and on the tv? There seems not to have been a big audience

> > maybe
> > > it
> > > > was a matter of presentation, as well as scheduling.Maybe the
> > > > executives already had cold feet about the budget BEFORE
> > > transmission?
> > > > John, Scrolls.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> Beautiful picture:
>
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99cf?b=2
>
> It really shows the hybridal MAN/BEAST nature of the Humanoid Apes.
>
> Is him Cornelius? Or is the pic taken from the TV series? I don't
know
> why, but I don't "recognize" him...
>
> T.C.
>

>
> Hi TC,
>
> It looks to me like it is Galen from the TV Series.
>
> Peter.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@> wrote:
> >
> > Beautiful picture:
> >
> > http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99cf?b=2
> >
> > It really shows the hybridal MAN/BEAST nature of the Humanoid

> >
> > Is him Cornelius? Or is the pic taken from the TV series? I don't
> know
> > why, but I don't "recognize" him...
> >
> > T.C.
> >
>

> Hi TC,
>
> It looks to me like it is Galen from the TV Series.
>
> Peter.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow"
> <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
> >
> > Beautiful picture:
> >
> >
>

> >
> > It really shows the hybridal MAN/BEAST nature of
> the Humanoid Apes.
> >
> > Is him Cornelius? Or is the pic taken from the TV
> series? I don't
> know
> > why, but I don't "recognize" him...
> >
> > T.C.
> >
>
>
>
>

>
>
> In a message dated 10/22/2006 9:08:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> drhasslein@... writes:
>
> The review that infuriates me is the Leonard Maltin book. POTA
> is "Modern near-classic sci-fi." NEAR-CLASSIC? WHAT?
>
>
>
> Near Classic means cover my ass in case some mediocre
> remake sullies the rep of a one time Sci-Fi Classic and
> makes it look more like one of it's lesser sequels.
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/22/2006 9:08:09 P.M. Central Standard

> > drhasslein@ writes:
> >
> > The review that infuriates me is the Leonard Maltin book. POTA
> > is "Modern near-classic sci-fi." NEAR-CLASSIC? WHAT?
> >
> >
> >
> > Near Classic means cover my ass in case some mediocre
> > remake sullies the rep of a one time Sci-Fi Classic and
> > makes it look more like one of it's lesser sequels.
> >
> There is no mediocre remake. Only a gallant attempt to recreate a
> classic. Unfortunately, we took it the wrong way and ended up

> it because our beauties were not in it...
> There's that word again: CHANGE...
> Love it or leave it, it's here and it really is the 21st
> Century...
> Our apes are devolving and evolving...
> How many remakes lie out there because of what they
> are: "remakes?"
> Perhaps if we give them a chance there will be a genuine

> But why?
> Why attempt to recreate something that is already done?
> Thus enters Tim Burton = difference...
> Oh...
> The Lawgiver shudders...
> Embrace your brothers...
>
> Thade's Darling Human
>

I remember reading somewhere that the network target audience of the
70's was very different than it is now, that the show received high
ratings with young viewers, but at the time the skew was away from
them... If the show had aired now, with the same results, it would be
considered a huge success...

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Wait a moment...
>
> Did the series "fruit" good ratings anyway, or was it an absolute
> fiasco? After all, in UK it was an istant hit, and even in the
> States it managed to earn a "cult status" of some sort (retained
> still today).
>
> So was it a moderate success in U.S.A, promotional push or not?
>
> T.C.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@ > wrote:
> >
> > I don't think so...I think the problem was the small minds in
> > charge...TV was too "formulated" , as in "good guy being always
> chased
> > by bad guy"..."Good guy meets new person, but must leave"...That
> > started with "The Fugitive" and "Run for Your Life", and
continued
> > through "Logan's Run" and "Planet of the Apes"...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "James" <JamesA1102@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Other than the 'Go Ape!' festival in theaters I don't remember
> CBS
> > > doing anything more than they did for other new shows debuting
> that
> > > year.
> > > However, the series was originally scheduled for Tuesday
nights.
> At
> > the
> > > last minute Fred Silverman switched it to Fridays. The show
Good
> > Times
> > > had been in the Friday slot and had done well the previous
year.
> So
> > the
> > > reasoning for switching the two shows is still a bit fuzzy. Now
> the
> > > question is would the POTA done better on Tuesdays against
Happy
> > Days,
> > > which was not yet a hit but was gaining in popularity. Good
> Times
> > held
> > > its own against Happy Days for a few years. Would POTA have
done
> > better
> > > or worse?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can anybody in the US recall if the live action tv series got
> the
> > > > publicity 'treatment' back in 1974--was there a big campaign
> in
> > > papers
> > > > and on the tv? There seems not to have been a big audience
and
> > maybe
> > > it
> > > > was a matter of presentation, as well as scheduling.Maybe the
> > > > executives already had cold feet about the budget BEFORE
> > > transmission?
> > > > John, Scrolls.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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>
>
> In a message dated 10/24/2006 9:28:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@... writes:
>
> I see no wrong in it.
>
>
>
>
> It doesn't bear close examination.
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/24/2006 9:28:39 A.M. Central Standard

> > apecalypsenow@ writes:
> >
> > I see no wrong in it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It doesn't bear close examination.
> >
> It doesn't bear distant examination, either...IMHO...=)
>
> G
>

>
> I predict that Tim Burton's movie will be soon regarded as a small
> cult-flick of some sort.
>
> It was a compelling "remake" of the ORIGINAL BOOK.
>
> I see no wrong in it.
>
> T.C.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
> <thadesdarlinghuman@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > There is no mediocre remake. Only a gallant attempt to recreate a
> > classic. Unfortunately, we took it the wrong way and ended up
> hating
> > it because our beauties were not in it...
> >
> > Thade's Darling Human
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Who can tie "Planet of the Apes" with the TV show "Friends"?...
>
> G
>

>
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Who can tie "Planet of the Apes" with the TV show "Friends"?...
> >
> > G
> >
>

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>
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>
>
> In a message dated 10/24/2006 7:22:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> apecalypsenow@... writes:
>
> I don't care what examination bears, I love the movie and doesn't
> care about everyone else's opinions. Clear?
>
>
>
> No. Since you "doesn't" care about grammar either, it's rather

>

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> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Long" <stephaniel66@...> wrote:
>
> I know this is probably a lame question, but I saw a guy with a t-
> shirt that had a US currency note on it with a Planet of the Apes
> character in place of George Washington. Does anyone happen to know
> where I could buy this?
>
> Stephanie
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leo_seddon" <bsherwood@...> wrote:
>
> Hello!, my name is Leo Seddon, I'm 13 nearly 14 here, and I love
> Planet of the apes, I have the collector's edition dvd set, the
> complete T.V.series and have borrowed Tim Burton's remake from a
> friend. I could do with getting 'Return' too, if it's avalible that
> is. I first found out about Planet of the apes when I was five back
in
> 1998, I watched the 'Behind' documentary with my dad, he told me
that
> he was a big fan when he was a kid. Back then I was obsessed in
cars
> (still am!), and seeing as I was interessed with the makeup and the
> story, I lokked out for any sins of cars, I could not see any, but
> when James Franciscus & Linda Harrison go down into the buried city
of
> New York, they pass a red white & blue bus buried in rock. I loved
it,
> so far I have been watching every apes picture I could to find the
one
> bus, but now I own the box set, and the bus is a matte painting.
Not a
> real bus. Say, does anyone have a picture of it?.
>

>
> At last, I have allies...
> You all can say what yo want about it... I don't care anymore.

> too, loved it... The characters were strong (except for the wimpy
> Davidson) and held their own. It was a scattered concept swept up
> and dumped into the "can" of filmmaking... Too many voices...
> But it was a beautiful adaption whether you liked it or not.
> There are more of us 21st Centurions out here than you realize and
> we have been biting our tongues for far too long...
> There will NEVER be a 1968 or another 1973, therefor there is
> only the now and the "to come". Cherish our beloved apes but make
> room for the future ones... They're coming whether you like it or
> not...They're brash and uncivilized and hard to deal with... In
> other words; they're not pushovers...
> Neither am I anymore...
>
> By the way, if you care to speak to me one-on-one, I am
> available On IM as "we" type...
>
> Sincerely,
> Thade's Darling Human
>

>
> Hi, Leo...Welcome to the group...Personally, "Beneath" is my

> of the apes films, and there's a lot of shots in the "Photos"
> section, but I don't think there's a shot of the bus...Hang in
> there...If there is one, someone here will probably have it, and

> you know...Maybe somebody will do a screen grab for you...
> Yes, all the apes material is out on DVD, including "Return"...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leo_seddon" <bsherwood@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello!, my name is Leo Seddon, I'm 13 nearly 14 here, and I love
> > Planet of the apes, I have the collector's edition dvd set, the
> > complete T.V.series and have borrowed Tim Burton's remake from a
> > friend. I could do with getting 'Return' too, if it's avalible

> > is. I first found out about Planet of the apes when I was five

> in
> > 1998, I watched the 'Behind' documentary with my dad, he told me
> that
> > he was a big fan when he was a kid. Back then I was obsessed in
> cars
> > (still am!), and seeing as I was interessed with the makeup and

> > story, I lokked out for any sins of cars, I could not see any,

> > when James Franciscus & Linda Harrison go down into the buried

> of
> > New York, they pass a red white & blue bus buried in rock. I

> it,
> > so far I have been watching every apes picture I could to find

> one
> > bus, but now I own the box set, and the bus is a matte painting.
> Not a
> > real bus. Say, does anyone have a picture of it?.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2006 3:10:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> john@... writes:
>
> My favourite part of the Burton Apes canon is Bill Quick's
backstory,
> as told in his two follow up novels.
>
>
>
> I didn't actually read the Billy The Quick pulp.
> I tried to skim part of it, but it seemed not
> only formulaic, but tossed off in a weekend.
>

>
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2006 3:10:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> john@... writes:
>
> My favourite part of the Burton Apes canon is Bill Quick's

> as told in his two follow up novels.
>
>
>
> I didn't actually read the Billy The Quick pulp.
> I tried to skim part of it, but it seemed not
> only formulaic, but tossed off in a weekend.
>

> Let me state that the POTA films were not suppose to be sequels as
> such, but because of the success of `Planet' other sequels

> which were not planned, and thus were not thought out properly.

>
> I have tried my very best to marry these inconsistencies to make
> sense of it all, in my researches and information given by other
> people to help me with my Timeline.

> From the above, my Timeline is a `composite' and thus probably the
> hardest to do.

> 3. In `Conquest' the year is 1991, when it should be 1993 (not
> withstanding the above correction). The reason for this date is
> simple; Armando and the Newscaster both mention 20 years ago that
> Cornelius and Zira came to Earth.

> All in all I am happy with my interpretation of my Timeline, if

> are those who dispute it, then let them make their own Timeline
> instead of pestering me about my efforts.

> Regards.
>
> Peter.

>
> Who can tie "Planet of the Apes" with the TV show "Friends"?...
>
> G
>

> The crucified gorillas that appear during an illusion on the
> battlefield during 'Beneath' are hanging upside down. Does anyone
> agree (or disagree) that this is another reference to the recurring,
> inverted cross symbolism of 'The Holy Bomb'?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> The crucified gorillas that appear during an illusion on the
> battlefield during 'Beneath' are hanging upside down. Does anyone
> agree (or disagree) that this is another reference to the
recurring,
> inverted cross symbolism of 'The Holy Bomb'?
>
> Dave
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leo_seddon" <bsherwood@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > Who can tie "Planet of the Apes" with the TV show "Friends"?...
> >
> > G
> >
> Not a fan of Freinds I would not know, but er... Hugh Larrie form the
> series 'House' is quite hairy-he'd do well for an ape!.
> By the way, I'm new here, please make me feel welcome! :D
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> The crucified gorillas that appear during an illusion on the
> battlefield during 'Beneath' are hanging upside down. Does anyone
> agree (or disagree) that this is another reference to the recurring,
> inverted cross symbolism of 'The Holy Bomb'?
>
> Dave
>

>
> True. I see a spooky similarity between the two concepts. God, an
> anti-christian/pseudo-satanist message in a 1970's movie! That's
> quite ground-breaking if you ask me.
>
> Is the 'ALPHA-OMEGA' title for the bomb somewhat of a *CANONICAL*
> detail?
>
> T.C.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > The crucified gorillas that appear during an illusion on the
> > battlefield during 'Beneath' are hanging upside down. Does anyone
> > agree (or disagree) that this is another reference to the
> recurring,
> > inverted cross symbolism of 'The Holy Bomb'?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leo_seddon" <bsherwood@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah!, I noticed that too!. And did you notice that there is only
ONE
> car in Conquest?. It's that delivary truck which Ceasar gets in with
> the Orangotangs. But the main story was set in '91, & the
revoulution
> could have been between '92 & '93, but 'Battle' was set in 2001. Or
> was it 2003?.
>

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>
> Humanoid Apes,
>
> Some questions for you... I'm going CRAZY! Maybe you can help me...
> LOL!
>
> 1- "Eight years ago, a plague killed..." - Was Armando
> just "rounding up" the EXACT date? Because I'm more and more
> convinced that CONQUEST is not *ONLY* set in 1991, but 1992 and '93
> too! Basically the whole movie might be covering a span of 3 years.
> Keep in mind Armando often refers to Caesar as being "20 years

> despite he was born in 1973 A.C. Keep in mind that Breck and his
> crew, when relating to Armando and his activity, often refer to

> specific amount of time: "20 years", and not "18"!
> So, a possible scenario:
>
> 1991 - Just the PROLOGUE of CONQUEST.
> 1992 - First part of the movie (from the helicopter scene). Caesar
> is, of course, 19, almost 20. Armando is just "rounding up" (1983-
> 1992=9, not 8). Presumibly, Armando raised his circus in 1972 (1972-
> 1992= 20). Caesar is introduced in the Ape Training Center, and
> lately purchased by Breck.
> 1993- Caesar's revolution, after aprox. one year of captivity.
>
> 2- According to my scenario, in BENEATH Zira was in her *SECOND*
> month of pregnancy (she's not showing yet).
> Then, the Ape-O-Nauts crash-landed on Earth in FEBRUARY/MARCH 1973
> A.C.
> The second ship ("missing for OVER two years") the President was
> referring to was indeed the mission which will "merge" in 3073

> 12 years before Virdon and Burke's arrival on POTA I (the

> killed by Urko and lately mentioned by Zaius).
> Brent's rescue mission is a secret, and not yet declared "failed"
> (What's about the TV reporting, anyway? "Two ships disintegrated in
> orbit", is this the exact quote from the movie?)
>
> MILO II was born in SEPTEMBER (Chimps pregnancy = 8 months).

> headed towards his Winter quarters in October/November.
> What do you think about it? I need suggestions and quotes from the
> movies.
>
>
> Many thanks...
>
> T.C.
>

>
> The mutants just called it "the Bomb"...Together, Brent and Taylor
> labeled it with the "alpha and omega" eponym...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@>
> wrote:
> >
> > True. I see a spooky similarity between the two concepts. God, an
> > anti-christian/pseudo-satanist message in a 1970's movie! That's
> > quite ground-breaking if you ask me.
> >
> > Is the 'ALPHA-OMEGA' title for the bomb somewhat of a *CANONICAL*
> > detail?
> >
> > T.C.
> >
> > The symbols for Alpah/Omega were on the wings of the BOMB...
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The crucified gorillas that appear during an illusion on the
> > > battlefield during 'Beneath' are hanging upside down. Does

> > > agree (or disagree) that this is another reference to the
> > recurring,
> > > inverted cross symbolism of 'The Holy Bomb'?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> >
>

>
> I knew about that before the movie came out. He was portrayed as a
> gorilla in the draft, but after much consideration they realized that
> gorillas are not as aggressive as chimpanzees so they changed him...
> Chimps are carnivores, bloodthirsty animals that will tear your b@lls
> off just as to look at you...
> As for Caesar, well his book is open and waiting for a continuum...
> He's not too far off of the tyranical path.
> His temper is not one to check.
>

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Humanoid Apes,
> >
> > Some questions for you... I'm going CRAZY! Maybe you can help

> > LOL!
> >
> > 1- "Eight years ago, a plague killed..." - Was Armando
> > just "rounding up" the EXACT date? Because I'm more and more
> > convinced that CONQUEST is not *ONLY* set in 1991, but 1992

> > too! Basically the whole movie might be covering a span of 3

> > Keep in mind Armando often refers to Caesar as being "20 years
> old",
> > despite he was born in 1973 A.C. Keep in mind that Breck and his
> > crew, when relating to Armando and his activity, often refer to
> this
> > specific amount of time: "20 years", and not "18"!
> > So, a possible scenario:
> >
> > 1991 - Just the PROLOGUE of CONQUEST.
> > 1992 - First part of the movie (from the helicopter scene).

> > is, of course, 19, almost 20. Armando is just "rounding up"

> > 1992=9, not 8). Presumibly, Armando raised his circus in 1972

> > 1992= 20). Caesar is introduced in the Ape Training Center, and
> > lately purchased by Breck.
> > 1993- Caesar's revolution, after aprox. one year of captivity.
> >
> > 2- According to my scenario, in BENEATH Zira was in her *SECOND*
> > month of pregnancy (she's not showing yet).
> > Then, the Ape-O-Nauts crash-landed on Earth in FEBRUARY/MARCH

> > A.C.
> > The second ship ("missing for OVER two years") the President was
> > referring to was indeed the mission which will "merge" in 3073
> A.C.,
> > 12 years before Virdon and Burke's arrival on POTA I (the
> astronauts
> > killed by Urko and lately mentioned by Zaius).
> > Brent's rescue mission is a secret, and not yet

> > (What's about the TV reporting, anyway? "Two ships disintegrated

> > orbit", is this the exact quote from the movie?)
> >
> > MILO II was born in SEPTEMBER (Chimps pregnancy = 8 months).
> ARMANDO
> > headed towards his Winter quarters in October/November.
> > What do you think about it? I need suggestions and quotes from

> > movies.
> >
> >
> > Many thanks...
> >
> > T.C.
> >
> I do believe you have it...
> Time-sensitivity works in mysterious ways and it is up to us

> fill in the blanks, my friend...
> Unfortuneatly, I don't include the "tv series" in this. That is
> way off the driven course of events...
> Time travel depends on when and where one lands. Brent

> at an inopportune time and missed saving the Earth by only milli-
> seconds...
> He arrived too late, thus dieing alongside his comrade,

> He should have set his coordinates to land him before all

> broke loose...
> But who knew?
> If we stretch our imaginations, maybe Taylor's distress signal
> had reached present Earth before the ship sank. Then that would

> that NASA is a bunch of dummies for not doing their math...
>

>
> You all turn in early, don't you?!
> DO you all live way out on the East Coast or are you all just
> needing your beauty sleep?
> I log in about 1:am NY time...
> To actually IM someone, so you all don't think I'm crazy, would

> phenomenal...
> I'll be here Saturday/Sunday morning... roughly at 1:00 am or

> little after...
> I won't hold my breath. I know how important Mass is to the
> Believers...
>
> Yours,
> Thade's Darling Human
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Good question. St.Peter was crucified upside down, at his own
request,
> because he felt himself unworthy to mirror Jesus Christ.It's also, in
> the context of Beneath, got 'world turned upside down' connotations,
> with Apes supplanting Man.Does the 'sign of the Bomb' actually appear
> in Beneath? It's in the scripts and the novels, I think, but I'm not
> sure if it's in the movie.I'm sure studio bosses would have been
> squeamish about clear parallels with Christain rites, and so 'upside
> down crucifiction' might have been preferred to avoid direct
comparison-
> --but then even the early sketches for Beneath, as shown on the
Behind
> disc, always had them upside down.I'm inclined to think that being
> crucified upside down is just an evil twist by the Mutants going for
> maximum horror--if you get crucified upside down death is caused by
> your brain bursting with blood.John.
>

>
> Why don't you insert the TV SERIES in the original timeline? I

> there's nothing so "different" to justify its "separation" from the
> movies...
>
> T.C.
>
> There is no mention of any of our beloved apes in the series,

>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
> <thadesdarlinghuman@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Humanoid Apes,
> > >
> > > Some questions for you... I'm going CRAZY! Maybe you can help
> me...
> > > LOL!
> > >
> > > 1- "Eight years ago, a plague killed..." - Was Armando
> > > just "rounding up" the EXACT date? Because I'm more and more
> > > convinced that CONQUEST is not *ONLY* set in 1991, but 1992
> and '93
> > > too! Basically the whole movie might be covering a span of 3
> years.
> > > Keep in mind Armando often refers to Caesar as being "20 years
> > old",
> > > despite he was born in 1973 A.C. Keep in mind that Breck and

> > > crew, when relating to Armando and his activity, often refer to
> > this
> > > specific amount of time: "20 years", and not "18"!
> > > So, a possible scenario:
> > >
> > > 1991 - Just the PROLOGUE of CONQUEST.
> > > 1992 - First part of the movie (from the helicopter scene).
> Caesar
> > > is, of course, 19, almost 20. Armando is just "rounding up"
> (1983-
> > > 1992=9, not 8). Presumibly, Armando raised his circus in 1972
> (1972-
> > > 1992= 20). Caesar is introduced in the Ape Training Center, and
> > > lately purchased by Breck.
> > > 1993- Caesar's revolution, after aprox. one year of captivity.
> > >
> > > 2- According to my scenario, in BENEATH Zira was in her

> > > month of pregnancy (she's not showing yet).
> > > Then, the Ape-O-Nauts crash-landed on Earth in FEBRUARY/MARCH
> 1973
> > > A.C.
> > > The second ship ("missing for OVER two years") the President

> > > referring to was indeed the mission which will "merge" in 3073
> > A.C.,
> > > 12 years before Virdon and Burke's arrival on POTA I (the
> > astronauts
> > > killed by Urko and lately mentioned by Zaius).
> > > Brent's rescue mission is a secret, and not yet
> declared "failed"
> > > (What's about the TV reporting, anyway? "Two ships

> in
> > > orbit", is this the exact quote from the movie?)
> > >
> > > MILO II was born in SEPTEMBER (Chimps pregnancy = 8 months).
> > ARMANDO
> > > headed towards his Winter quarters in October/November.
> > > What do you think about it? I need suggestions and quotes from
> the
> > > movies.
> > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks...
> > >
> > > T.C.
> > >
> > I do believe you have it...
> > Time-sensitivity works in mysterious ways and it is up to us
> to
> > fill in the blanks, my friend...
> > Unfortuneatly, I don't include the "tv series" in this. That

> > way off the driven course of events...
> > Time travel depends on when and where one lands. Brent
> launched
> > at an inopportune time and missed saving the Earth by only milli-
> > seconds...
> > He arrived too late, thus dieing alongside his comrade,
> Taylor...
> > He should have set his coordinates to land him before all
> hell
> > broke loose...
> > But who knew?
> > If we stretch our imaginations, maybe Taylor's distress

> > had reached present Earth before the ship sank. Then that would
> mean
> > that NASA is a bunch of dummies for not doing their math...
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Agreed, especially considering that the images were being projected
by
> the Mutants.
>
> Now, who can specify the other three times an inverted cross
appears in
> the film? :-)
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> >>The crucified gorillas that appear during an illusion on the
> battlefield during 'Beneath' are hanging upside down. Does anyone
> agree (or disagree) that this is another reference to the recurring,
> inverted cross symbolism of 'The Holy Bomb'? <<
>