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| Group: pota |
Message: 40570 |
From: JamesA1102 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40571 |
From: garyroskell |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40572 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language + |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40573 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40574 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40575 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40576 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40577 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40578 |
From: john |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: battle |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40579 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40580 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40581 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40582 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40583 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40584 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40585 |
From: john |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: thanks |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40586 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40587 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: TV-Series Boardgame. |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40588 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40589 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: thanks |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40590 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: goin' to Vegas! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40591 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40592 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Mr. Comics free story |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40593 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40594 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40595 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40596 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40597 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40598 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40599 |
From: jose ramon |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40601 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40602 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40603 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40604 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40605 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40606 |
From: Dario |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40607 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40608 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40609 |
From: john rutkoski |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40610 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40611 |
From: Dario |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40612 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Ape City Map |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40613 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40614 |
From: thadesdarlinghuman |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Comment retracted... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40615 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40616 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 2909 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40617 |
From: James |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40618 |
From: James |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40619 |
From: DONNA SPIRES |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40620 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Comment retracted... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40621 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40622 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: POTA on The History Channel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40623 |
From: simianarms |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40624 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bloopers on the POTA on The History Channel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40625 |
From: gleaner63 |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Dr. Zaius |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40626 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40627 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40628 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Hello |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40629 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40630 |
From: rackworthykomix |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40631 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Hello |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40632 |
From: Rob |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40633 |
From: Rob |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40634 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40635 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40636 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40637 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40638 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40639 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40640 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40641 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Up Above the World so High |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40642 |
From: James |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40643 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40644 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40645 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40646 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40647 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40648 |
From: p3murds@aol.com |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40649 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40650 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Up Above the World so High |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40651 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40652 |
From: James |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40653 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40654 |
From: James |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40655 |
From: Mark |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Capt. Maddox |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40656 |
From: Mark |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40657 |
From: Tim |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: I'm back! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40658 |
From: James |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I'm back! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40659 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I'm back! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40660 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I'm back! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40661 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Marvel UK Issue 121 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40662 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40663 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40664 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40665 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I'm back! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40666 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Mike Ploog |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40667 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40668 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40669 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Mike Ploog |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40670 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40570 |
From: JamesA1102 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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Interesting. Was that when
Blake Edwards was supposed to direct the film?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:48 AM
Subject: [POTA] I didn't know that!
Well you do
learn something new every day! I just found out that Planet of the Apes was
originally planned to be filmed in England!
Neil
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40571 |
From: garyroskell |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
.htmlAm I the only one that's finding this thread offensive as well as irrelevant? Still loved him even though he was a homo? Does that mean if it hadn't been Roddy but someone else who was a homo you would have minded? Or that you loved Roddy despite the fact he was a homo? And how derogatory is the term 'homo'?
I'm sure offence wasn't intended, but discussions of cast members sexuality should have no place in a forum like this.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman" <thadesdarlinghuman@...> wrote: > > Okay, now, how many did not know Roddy McDowall was a Homo? > Really, now? > I didn't give a damn. I still loved him! > Rumor had it even back then but it was hushed. Hell, who knew
> Raymond Burr was?! > So was Rock Hudson but his sway got him killed... > At least Roddy and Raymond had enough sense to stay with one life > partner... > Roddy died from lung cancer and Big ole Raymond passed due to some > overweight disease... > I don't care. Roddy was my man... I loved (and still love) him > unconditionally. > I'm just glad Tim Roth loves women! > > Woohoo! > Thade's Darling Human >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40572 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language + |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> The Ape language, English, didn't evolve much over
> 2000 years--a guy in England, even in 1066, would
> be virtually unintelligible to an English speaker
> in 2007.The Apes clearly have scope to create new
> words -- 'Oper', for example---but don't hint at any
> dialects, other Ape languages.Boulle's novel suggests
> the Apes slavishly (no pun intended) copied superior
> humans. I think, in reality, Ape language would have
> altered a tremendous amount and that, 2000 years on,
> Taylor would struggle to converse with Zira et al.
> You know Al, her cousin?
> John, Scrolls.
I positively agree :-)
Boulle had it right, when the astronaut had to spend
quite some time learning the Ape's language so that he
could communicate with them- itself an amazing accom-
plishment when one considers that he didn't exactly have
structured classroom lessons. And even then, to the Apes
his speach to them would have been stilted, fragmented
and somewhat rudimentary. We see this in our own society,
as for example Koreans attain U.S. citizenship, learn what
English they can, and seldom sound 'quite right' as they
speak. Their children however, raised here, speak English
fluently. Boulle's 'Taylor', to the Apes, would have sug-
gested that Humans can learn to speak, and their lanuage,
but 'Taylor' would have sounded rather 'dumb' in doing so,
which would to Apes suggests that he was too primitive to
master language properly. This would reinforce their be-
lief that Humans were little more than bright animals.
As far as POTA is concerned, indeed 'English' would have
modified- evolved, progressed in a natural fashion to be-
come virtually a whole ne language, inded as different, if
not more different, than English in real life was 600 to a
1000 years ago. Our language indeed has changed a great
deal even within that last 100-200 years.
And again, from a realistic perspective, Taylor should
have been amazed by two thigns, that told him that he had
indeed returned to Earth. 1) That there were Earth crea-
tures about- beginning with the Apes- plus horses and other
animals, which would obviously not exist on an alien planet,
plus, 2) the Apes spoke largely proper English, 'proper'
meaning that it was so easy to understand in virtually every
way. Something that a true alien species would not be doing.
heck, even in this age of instantaneous world-comminication,
people still hold onto their native languages tenaciously.
In the end, there is only one thing that can explain why
the Apes retained the ability to speak 'proper' English. And
that reason is... books. Surely, for centuries, Apes used
what books that had survived to carry on some technologies,
such as for gun and camera making and other things. These
books were few, and it's obvious that such artifacts were
often also stored permanently away, or destroyed, being viewed
as 'evil human artifacts' through various periods of Ape his-
tory, as they continued to claim the Earth and their culture
as their own. Making use of boks to any degree, and to benefit
from what they offered, meant retaining the language that they
were written in. And as time went by, and books made with
acid-laden paper crumbled to dust, tomes were lost ot inten-
tionally destroyed, and so on, eventually there were virtually
no intact human books left, unable to endure centuries of
handling over such a long period of time. Paper... is not
like the more durable velum made from animal skins, and only
acid-free paper would have endured for actual centuries. Even
the U.S. Declaration of Independance is showing much wear after
only 231 years, on acid-free stock, a document that hasn't been
physically 'handled' for quite some time.
I would suggest that there were very few usable 'modern
day' books that survived past 500 to 1000 years, and by per-
haps after 1500 years... nearly all of them were gone. By
2000 years there was nearly none- scraps here and there at
best.
Another thought I'd like to present as a theory as to
why POTA Apes never maintained the manufacturing of machi-
nery such as the internal combustion engine and factories
and plants for making electricity, and many other things
on that industrial scale. Two things, I think. First,
there just wasn't enough Apes about to maintain the infra-
structures that supported such, and certainly not enough
early on that understood much of it. By the time the Apes
had 'evolved' enough to comprehend enough of it, much of it
was already crumbling and rusting to uselessness. Undus-
trial-quality circumstances need a great deal of constant
maintenance, in fact enormous amounts of such, and even
by the time of POTA the Apes were still too few to make
'cities' large enough which to us are little more than
small towns. Their numbers still being small, and with
industries now rubble, they are still stuck in an age less
advanced than 1850's America, and is nearly Medieval.
The likely second reason that Apes did not come to
mechanization and industrialization, is the belief that
such devices and processes are the tools of Man, which
led to world war and Man's final downfall, and the Apes
did not want to risk following the same path. Early in
their history, as with book-burnings, they perhaps also
went out of their way to further destroy Man's vile tools
of evil. The history of real life reveals how those op-
posed have little difficulty tearing down and burning down
that which offends them, as is VERY clearly revealed in
BENEATH when the Apes are determined to pull down and
destrpy the Alpha-Omega missle... after also destroying
the statues and busts of himans in the Gallery hallway.
They obviously hold contempt for anything man-made, dri-
ven to destroy such whenever they encounter it, judging it
to be 'Obsene', in Zaius' own words. So then... early on
in Ape history, much of what was built by Man was very
likely razed to the ground, pulled down or smashed to bits,
and very nearly everywhere. Untimately the Apes did not
want to follow Man's path, now preferrring a more agrarian
or 'agricultural society' than a mechanized industrial one.
They shun such just as some present-day religions, the Amish
being one example. The destruction that took place in BE-
NEATH at the hands of the Apes was a fine example of how
much they hate the things that Man made, and likely in very
nearly all of its forms... except for a few select useful
items, like firearms.
Retaining English as a language still proved useful how-
ever, and perhaps because of a bit of philosophy, unspoken
in any of the films, that served the Apes well, that being...
'To best understand good, one also must have a full under-
standing... of evil'. If this has any truth at all, indeed
what humans left behind was studied well... to better know
what to avoid, and... to destroy, which in the end left very
little to be discovered 2000 years hence, with what the Apes
themselves brought further down, and what's still be reclaimed,
by nature, as even the remnants are now indeed turning to dust.
~ Jon <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40573 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote: > > The Ape language, English, didn't evolve much over 2000 years--a guy in > England, even in 1066, would be virtually unintelligible to an English > speaker in 2007.
Hell a guy in England in 2007 is virtually unintelligible to me. When are you limeys going to drop the pretentious accent and learn to speak proper english like us Americans;-)
> The Apes clearly have scope to create new words -- > 'Oper', for example---but don't hint at any dialects, other Ape > languages.Boulle's novel suggests the Apes slavishly (no pun intended) > copied superior humans.I think, in reality, Ape language would have > altered a tremendous amount and that, 2000 years on, Taylor would > struggle to converse with Zira et al.You know Al, her cousin? John, > Scrolls.
On one hand you could say the Apes have an arrested culture that hasn't evolved much over 2,000 years, including their language. On the other hand it does make sense that dialects would have developed over that time.
If I recall correctly, they did want to have the Apes speaking a different langauge at first but Heston argued against it.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40574 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
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In a message dated 2/1/2007 1:16:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
markalyce@... writes:
When I first started collecting Apes stuff Years ago I started with the
film posters. Over the years people/collectors have told me that the
B- style poster for Conquest was much harder to poster to find than the A
style. I see the B Style all the time on EBay. Does anyone here own the
A Style one sheet? It looks like the British one sheet poster. The
orange one with the apes running and the two apes holding Gov. Breck.
Just Curious.
It's also the insert poster artwork (14x36) and I've been dying to get
either the insert or full-sized (27x41) so-called "red" poster but even the
damaged ones go for big bucks on eBay.
Bruce <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40575 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
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In a message dated 2/1/2007 3:38:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:
Interesting. Was that
when Blake Edwards was supposed to direct the film?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:48 AM
Subject: [POTA] I didn't know that!
Well you do
learn something new every day! I just found out that Planet of the Apes was
originally planned to be filmed in England!
Neil
Around 1964 I think. The back of one of the PLANET paperbacks I have from
1963 said it was to be filmed in 1964 and Edwards was the first supposedly
going to direct it wasn't he?
Bruce <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40576 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
.htmlI think you're right...I remember reading something about that, too...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 3:38:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Interesting. Was that when Blake Edwards was supposed to direct
the film?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: _Neil T Foster_ (mailto:ntfoster@...)
> To: _pota@..._ (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com)
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:48 AM
> Subject: [POTA] I didn't know that!
>
>
>
>
> Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that
Planet of
> the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Around 1964 I think. The back of one of the PLANET paperbacks I
have from
> 1963 said it was to be filmed in 1964 and Edwards was the first
supposedly
> going to direct it wasn't he?
>
> Bruce
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40577 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
.html
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Message
-- No it
wasn't, it was later.
Anyway I
sent that post to the wrong group, it was meant to go to the
POTADG.
My mistake,
sorry!
Neil
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA1102"
<JamesA1102@...> wrote:
> > Interesting. Was that when Blake
Edwards was supposed to direct the film? <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40578 |
From: john |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: battle |
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.html hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in
the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the
total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage
is in, does it make it a much different movie ? <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40579 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
.htmlI'm glad Edwards didn't direct. Peter Sellars would have made a lousy
Taylor. But Herbert Lom might have been a fair Zaius.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> Around 1964 I think. The back of one of the PLANET paperbacks I have
from
> 1963 said it was to be filmed in 1964 and Edwards was the first
supposedly
> going to direct it wasn't he?
>
> Bruce
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40580 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
.htmlSpeaking for the moderators we apologize for letting this thread go on as long as it has. Our goal is not to censor people so sometimes we mis-judge when something has crossed the line. We're sorry.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "garyroskell" <gary@...> wrote: > > Am I the only one that's finding this thread offensive as well as > irrelevant? Still loved him even though he was a homo? Does that mean if > it hadn't been Roddy but someone else who was a homo you would have > minded? Or that you loved Roddy despite the fact he was a homo? And how > derogatory is the term 'homo'? > > I'm sure offence wasn't intended, but discussions of cast members > sexuality should have no place in a forum like this. > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman" > thadesdarlinghuman@ wrote: > > > > Okay, now, how many did not know Roddy McDowall was a Homo? > > Really, now? > > I didn't give a damn. I still loved him!
> > Rumor had it even back then but it was hushed. Hell, who knew > > Raymond Burr was?! > > So was Rock Hudson but his sway got him killed... > > At least Roddy and Raymond had enough sense to stay with one life > > partner... > > Roddy died from lung cancer and Big ole Raymond passed due to some > > overweight disease... > > I don't care. Roddy was my man... I loved (and still love) him > > unconditionally. > > I'm just glad Tim Roth loves women! > > > > Woohoo! > > Thade's Darling Human > > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40581 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
| Group: pota |
Message: 40582 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
.htmlThe extra footage is incorporated into the film and makes it about 10
minutes longer.
If you want to read a list of the extra footage go to the group's
Database section http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database and
select Battle Uncut.
Also if you want to see the two key scenes that were restored check out
this in the Group website's Video section:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/AlphaOmega.htm
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "john" <rutkoskijohn@...> wrote:
>
> hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in
> the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is
the
> total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new
footage
> is in, does it make it a much different movie ?
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40583 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
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In a message dated 2/1/2007 5:16:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:
Thanks but masterprint is another word for "copy." But thanks.
Bruce <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40584 |
From: James |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I didn't know that! |
.htmlHey, you were only off 2 letters;-) But there is no need to apologize.
No harm done and at this point it's like trying to put tooth paste back
in the tube.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- No it wasn't, it was later.
> Anyway I sent that post to the wrong group, it was meant to go to the
> POTADG.
> My mistake, sorry!
>
> Neil
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting. Was that when Blake Edwards was supposed to direct the
> film?
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40585 |
From: john |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: thanks |
|
.html Thanks, I was always dissapointed with battle it seemed rushed, and had
a bit of a tv movie feel. does the extra ten minutes make the movie
much better. I always thought if they could make some of those battle
scenes at the end, longer, and more ellaborate. it might have worked,
also instead of most of the mutants dying, their could have been more
dialogue between them and ceaser. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40586 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
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| The way that I see it, if Roddy was gay, he was. In any case, he certainly was a dynamic actor! Zach -------Original Message------- From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/01/07 09:06:48 To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Roddy... i knew he was i still love him --- LordTZer0@AOL. com wrote:
> > In a message dated 2/1/2007 12:54:39 A.M. Central > Standard Time, > thadesdarlinghuman@ yahoo.com writes: > > Roddy McDowall was a Homo? > I didn't give a damn. I still loved him! > > > > No imagery, please. > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40587 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: TV-Series Boardgame. |
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.html Hi Everyone,
Just dropping in to tell you that I have downloaded a file that you
can copy to make a Tv-Series Boardgame from the live-action Tv-Series
which I made.
So have a look, make the game, and play.
Go to the Friends and Fugitives to download the file.
Naturally if there are any questions, please ask.
All the best for now.
Peter. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40588 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
.html.html
| It makes it more complete. I wish that they would do the same to BENEATH and to ESCAPE. Zach -------Original Message------- From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/01/07 16:13:47 To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] battle hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage is in, does it make it a much different movie ?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40589 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: thanks |
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| 
| BATTLE was much more complete with the extra footage. Here's some examples of why I'd like to see extra footage added to BENEATH and to ESCAPE.
1. The posters for BENEATH clearly show the Ape Army marching past the ruins of the New York Stock Exchange, the Public Library and Radio City Music Hall on the way to the Cathedral...when the movie hit our theater in late July, 1970, I well remember seeing those scenes...besides, the way it is featured now, a person probably would wonder, "Well, what happened to the Fat Man (Adiposo, played by Victor Buono), Caspay (played by Jeff Corey), and the Verger (played by Gregory Sierra)?" There was a scene when General Ursus had those three brutally gunned down right in front of the ruined Radio City marquee (they were on their way to cover, what I still don't understand is why they weren't already in hiding as per Mendez XXVI's instructions). It also seemed as if General Ursus' speech to the crowd was much longer...as well as the steam room conversation that he had had with Dr. Zaius.
I seem to recall that the dialogue at the end of BENEATH between Taylor and Zaius was longer. 2. We've spoke about it quite a bit already, but it would be FANTASTIC to have the ship scenes in ESCAPE added on to a DVD, finally. I read the original shooting scripts (by the way, thanks a lot, Hunter) and how they launched the ship and was in orbit when the Bomb was activated, afterwards the shock wave hit the ship, sending it into the Hasslein Curve back to Earth in 1973...that would have been great, as far as I'm concerned. Fellow Apesters, what are your views on these? Zach -------Original Message-------
From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/01/07 17:14:27 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] thanks Thanks, I was always dissapointed with battle it seemed rushed, and had a bit of a tv movie feel. does the extra ten minutes make the movie much better. I always thought if they could make some of those battle scenes at the end, longer, and more ellaborate. it might have worked, also instead of most of the mutants dying, their could have been more dialogue between them and ceaser.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40590 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: goin' to Vegas! |
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.html hello all.....
I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
missed anything!
Cheers!
Tim
________________________
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40591 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas! |
.htmlHave fun, Tim...Win big!...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> hello all.....
> I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
> going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
> have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
> back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
> missed anything!
> Cheers!
> Tim
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40592 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 2/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Mr. Comics free story |
|
.html Thanks for the info guys!!
Chris L. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40593 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
.htmlFYI - No he didn't.... And I won't elaborate.....
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
<thadesdarlinghuman@...> wrote:
>
Roddy died from lung cancer ...
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40594 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
Dave sez (in a terribly posh and unintelligible accent)
I think the Ape culture, or at least that small part of it we get to
see in the first two movies, is one that is very resistant to change.
I suspect that for generations the ruling orangutans have made
scientific progress very difficult for fear of where such progress
leads. I suspect they know what is possible but a proggression from
horse power to steam to electricity etc destroyed the world once
before (presumably) and they'd want to remove the temptation so it
can't happen again.
Such a philosophy of religiously keeping things the way they are
(innocent?) may have extended into the classrooms - I can see little
chimp students having the palms of thier hands rapped with a ruler
because they've just invented a new word ("Pericles! You shame the
language of our fathers!)
Of course, that the language originates from humans makes it all
deliciously ironic.
It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate attempt to
isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the movies
tried something similar?
Dave <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40595 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlIt was a great book, though...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
> It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate attempt to
> isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the movies
> tried something similar?
>
> Dave
> <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40596 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlReally? I didn't even know it was a book!
Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
Dave
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> It was a great book, though...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate attempt to
> > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the movies
> > tried something similar?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40597 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas! |
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| Have a great time, Tim! Zach -------Original Message------- From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/01/07 22:27:35 To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [POTA] goin' to Vegas! hello all..... I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I missed anything! Cheers! Tim
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40598 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlWhen you get Ursus using words like 'ineluctable' the yes, maybe the
Apes took a special pride in preserving the language, especially as
it could be viewed as the key to their liberty, through its use in
the rebellion, and also as Casar's gift to his people.Another
cultural point is clothing--I can see that the colour schemes were
slave uniform echoes, but how did the Apes come up with their
particular designs? Had somebody seen and described the clothing of
Zira and Cornelius? Had Armando given young Caesar a Cornelius style
romper suit? John, Scrolls.
>
> Really? I didn't even know it was a book!
>
> Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
>
> Dave
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > It was a great book, though...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate
attempt to
> > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the
movies
> > > tried something similar?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40599 |
From: jose ramon |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlWe have examples of languages that thanks to be used in religions, sacred liturgies or texts do not undergo changes. Perhaps its language was revealed by the Lawgiver. JR. shanter2002 <john@...> wrote: When you get Ursus using words like 'ineluctable' the yes, maybe the Apes took a special pride in preserving the language, especially as it could be viewed as the key to their liberty, through its use in the rebellion,
and also as Casar's gift to his people.Another cultural point is clothing--I can see that the colour schemes were slave uniform echoes, but how did the Apes come up with their particular designs? Had somebody seen and described the clothing of Zira and Cornelius? Had Armando given young Caesar a Cornelius style romper suit? John, Scrolls. > > Really? I didn't even know it was a book! > > Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages? > > Dave > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@ > wrote: > > > > It was a great book, though... > > > > G > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ > wrote:
> > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate attempt
to > > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the movies > > > tried something similar? > > > > > > Dave > > > > > >
No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40601 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas! |
.htmlGood for you Tim! Have a great time. I'm very jealous. Remember Las Vegas is the future site of Central City so be sure to bury something that will be useful to Burke & Virdon in 1,000 years. Also, never hit on a dealer 16.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: > > hello all..... > I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm > going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't > have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be > back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I > missed anything! > Cheers! > Tim > > > > ________________________> Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. > Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40602 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dave sez (in a terribly posh and unintelligible accent)
>
Could you repeat that and please speak more slowly. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40603 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy... |
.htmlPlease don't. Let's kill this thread everyone. Thanks.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> FYI - No he didn't.... And I won't elaborate.....
>
>> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40604 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlVery good points Jose.
I'd also point out that a language will change over generations due to
the influence of other langauges. Usually due to a culture speaking one
language conquering another culture speaking a different language.
However, if the North American ape nation is completely isolated and
everyone speaks english then the influences that would change language
over time would be absent.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jose ramon <joseramonruizdiez@...> wrote:
>
> We have examples of languages that thanks to be used in religions,
sacred liturgies or texts do not undergo changes. Perhaps its language
was revealed by the Lawgiver.
>
> JR.
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40605 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlJust a thought but isn't this, to some degree what is practised by the
Amish (Aimish?)communities?
Dave
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Very good points Jose.
>
> I'd also point out that a language will change over generations due to
> the influence of other langauges. Usually due to a culture speaking one
> language conquering another culture speaking a different language.
>
> However, if the North American ape nation is completely isolated and
> everyone speaks english then the influences that would change language
> over time would be absent.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jose ramon <joseramonruizdiez@> wrote:
> >
> > We have examples of languages that thanks to be used in religions,
> sacred liturgies or texts do not undergo changes. Perhaps its language
> was revealed by the Lawgiver.
> >
> > JR.
> >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40606 |
From: Dario |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet |
.htmlHere are the translations:
(Russian 1) Ïëàíåòà Îáåçüÿí = Planet of the Apes.
(Russian 2) Öàñòü Ïåðâàÿà = Part I.
I had them translated by a Russian, not myself.
Dario
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> I'm about to upload 2 images from the Russian Language version of
> Monkey Planet.
>
> Thing is, this book appears to contain more than just Boulle's
novel
> and these illustrations may not even relate but having said that
they
> do seem to show some apes.
>
> I can't read Russian so if anyone can throw some light on these and
> possibly translate those captions I'd be interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40607 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet |
.htmlThanks Dario, much appreciated.
It looks then like the book was illustrated by an artist who wasn't
familiar with the story. I wonder if the Yoda-like character in
Russian 1 is supposed to be Zaius?
There are some more illustrations scattered throughout the book but
none of these feature anything remotely resembling Monkey Planet.
I posted the cover about a month ago and that seemed to feature a
scene from a different story too.
Dave
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Here are the translations:
>
> (Russian 1) Ïëàíåòà Îáåçüÿí = Planet of the Apes.
>
> (Russian 2) Öàñòü Ïåðâàÿà = Part I.
>
> I had them translated by a Russian, not myself.
>
> Dario
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm about to upload 2 images from the Russian Language version of
> > Monkey Planet.
> >
> > Thing is, this book appears to contain more than just Boulle's
> novel
> > and these illustrations may not even relate but having said that
> they
> > do seem to show some apes.
> >
> > I can't read Russian so if anyone can throw some light on these and
> > possibly translate those captions I'd be interested.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40608 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlOh, no, I haven't...Where are they?...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Really? I didn't even know it was a book!
>
> Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
>
> Dave
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > It was a great book, though...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate
attempt to
> > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the
movies
> > > tried something similar?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40609 |
From: john rutkoski |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
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well i think the one they really needed to stretch out was conquest. it seems in the movie the apes became intelligent in hours. now i know you don't have much time with a movie, but they needed to give the impression how the apes took control over hundreds of years. i thought also when they showed the apes getting trained in conquest, they could have been smarter, then have these world wide bombs going off, destoying a large part of the world, and now apes are on more of an equal level with humans, and gradually take over. now there's a movie. the producers just rushed conquest ,and battle. now two examples of movies that have some good new world footage that could have been great along with a great story, are the terminator movies when they show us clips of the war with machines, and even though this movie bombed the arial and land scenes were great in battlefield earth. can you imagine having those shots with apes ,and humans
running around and
battling. we could even use the battle shots from lord of the rings. zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote: | It makes it more complete. I wish that they would do the same to BENEATH and to ESCAPE. Zach -------Original
Message----- -- Date: 02/01/07 16:13:47 Subject: [POTA] battle hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage is in, does it make it a much different movie ?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40610 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Language |
.htmlOkay, the first illo is the cover and says "Monkey Planet",
or "Planet of the Apes"...The second one says "First Part", or "Part
One"...Sorry, I dropped the ball...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Really? I didn't even know it was a book!
>
> Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
>
> Dave
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > It was a great book, though...
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate
attempt to
> > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the
movies
> > > tried something similar?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40611 |
From: Dario |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet |
.htmlOK, I had a longer talk with my Russian buddy. It appears that a
more correct translation would be "Planet of the Monkeys"
(or "Monkey Planet" if you prefer) for the first one. Like other
languages, there does not appear to be a direct one-to-one
translation of the word "Ape". Same reason that other languages
like Italian and Spanish use "Simian" for their PotA titles.
Just wanted to clear it up before someone takes me to task.
Dario
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Here are the translations:
>
> (Russian 1) Ïëàíåòà Îáåçüÿí = Planet of the Apes.
>
> (Russian 2) Öàñòü Ïåðâàÿà = Part I.
>
> I had them translated by a Russian, not myself.
>
> Dario
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm about to upload 2 images from the Russian Language version of
> > Monkey Planet.
> >
> > Thing is, this book appears to contain more than just Boulle's
> novel
> > and these illustrations may not even relate but having said that
> they
> > do seem to show some apes.
> >
> > I can't read Russian so if anyone can throw some light on these
and
> > possibly translate those captions I'd be interested.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40612 |
From: James |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Ape City Map |
| Group: pota |
Message: 40613 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/2/2007 |
| Subject: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
| Group: pota |
Message: 40614 |
From: thadesdarlinghuman |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Comment retracted... |
|
.html Surly I meant no ill will from my comments and am sorry if I
offended..
It's not like anyone really gives a crap what I have to say here
anyway...
Rebuttals have been ignored and I have tried to gain some little
piece of respect but you all have shot me down many times...
It's as if you all hold all the answers in your palms and you
DON'T CARE what anyone, from outside of your clique, has to say or
feels...
I'm sorry if I offended anyone or am doing so right now, but this
is the cliquiest group I've dealt with in a lllooonnnggg time... <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40615 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
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| Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with the member that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put the deleted scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box set comes out. I wouldn't mind seeing those myself.
Zach -------Original Message------- From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/02/07 13:02:58 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] battle
well i think the one they really needed to stretch out was conquest. it seems in the movie the apes became intelligent in hours. now i know you don't have much time with a movie, but they needed to give the impression how the apes took control over hundreds of years. i thought also when they showed the apes getting trained in conquest, they could have been smarter, then have these world wide bombs going off, destoying a large part of the world, and now apes are on more of an equal level with humans, and gradually take over. now there's a movie. the producers just rushed conquest ,and battle. now two examples of movies that have some good new world footage that could have been great along with a great story, are the terminator movies when they show us clips of the war with machines, and even though this movie bombed the arial and land scenes were great in battlefield earth. can you imagine having those shots with apes ,and humans running around and battling.
we could even use the battle shots from lord of the rings.
zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote: | It makes it more complete. I wish that they would do the same to BENEATH and to ESCAPE. Zach -------Original Message----- -- Date:
02/01/07 16:13:47 Subject: [POTA] battle hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage is in, does it make it a much different movie ?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40616 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 2909 |
.html>Posted by: "thadesdarlinghuman" thadesdarlinghuman@...
>thadesdarlinghuman
>Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 2:02 am ((PST))
> Surly I meant no ill will from my comments and am sorry if I
>offended..
> It's not like anyone really gives a crap what I have to say here
>anyway...
> Rebuttals have been ignored and I have tried to gain some little
>piece of respect but you all have shot me down many times...
> It's as if you all hold all the answers in your palms and you
>DON'T CARE what anyone, from outside of your clique, has to say or
>feels...
> I'm sorry if I offended anyone or am doing so right now, but this
>is the cliquiest group I've dealt with in a lllooonnnggg time...
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40617 |
From: James |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
.htmlThere was a more violent cut of Conquest that was tested. At the end
the Apes kill Breck and Caesar's speech ends at "and that day is upon
you now".
After the test cut was shown in some theaters, they went back cut some
of the more violent scenes, including Breck's death and added the
second part of Caesar's speech.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with the
member
> that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put the
deleted
> scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box set
comes
> out. I wouldn't mind seeing those myself.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40618 |
From: James |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
| Group: pota |
Message: 40619 |
From: DONNA SPIRES |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
.htmlThat should be on shown either on Saturday Night Live or Mad TV.
Donna
>From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
>Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:07:17 -0000
>
>Cool! Here's something I found on YouTube:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnI706uGiDA
>
>
>--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@...> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjVtJzTSuPw
> >
> > ~ Jon :-)
> >
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40620 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Comment retracted... |
.htmlHonestly, as one of the Moderators here (and consequently, having to
make sure I read all posts), I have to say that the problem seems to
be that you take everyone's disagreements with your views as personal
attacks...And I don't see them as that way at all...
Everyone puts forth their personal opinions on these various
subjects, but for the majority, I have to say, they seem to be able
to take someone's not "championing" their cause as just a matter of
course...
I'd say, mellow a little...You are a staunch fan of POTA01 -- most of
us didn't like it...You are obviously a fan of Thade's,
the "villian" -- most fans of POTA01 didn't care for him as
much...Naturally, your views will end up in the minority...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
<thadesdarlinghuman@...> wrote:
>
> Surly I meant no ill will from my comments and am sorry if I
> offended..
> It's not like anyone really gives a crap what I have to say
here
> anyway...
> Rebuttals have been ignored and I have tried to gain some
little
> piece of respect but you all have shot me down many times...
> It's as if you all hold all the answers in your palms and you
> DON'T CARE what anyone, from outside of your clique, has to say or
> feels...
> I'm sorry if I offended anyone or am doing so right now, but
this
> is the cliquiest group I've dealt with in a lllooonnnggg time...
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40621 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
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| Still, don't you think that they would put that on the disc...like "alternate ending" or some such term? Zach -------Original Message------- From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/03/07 11:20:20 To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: battle There was a more violent cut of Conquest that was tested. At the end the Apes kill Breck and Caesar's speech ends at "and that day is upon you now".
After the test cut was shown in some theaters, they went back cut some of the more violent scenes, including Breck's death and added the second part of Caesar's speech.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote: > > Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with the member > that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put the
deleted > scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box set comes > out. I wouldn't mind seeing those myself. > > > > Zach > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40622 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: POTA on The History Channel |
| Group: pota |
Message: 40623 |
From: simianarms |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest Posters? |
.htmlIs that the insert or one sheet? Yes that is the one I was refering
to. I have the one sheet version of that poster and I liked it a lot
more than the other. Personal preference :-) I just remembered people
always telling me that the other was harder to get. Just curious
because I didn't see it in the posters section. I should upload a
photo for all to see.
Mark
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Is this the one you're refering to?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "simianarms" <markalyce@> wrote:
> >
> > When I first started collecting Apes stuff Years ago I started
with
> the
> > film posters. Over the years people/collectors have told me that
the
> B-
> > style poster for Conquest was much harder to poster to find than
the A
> > style. I see the B Style all the time on EBay. Does anyone here
own
> the
> > A Style one sheet? It looks like the British one sheet poster. The
> > orange one with the apes running and the two apes holding Gov.
Breck.
> > Just Curious.
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40624 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bloopers on the POTA on The History Channel |
.htmlI'm watching it right now, and I noticed a blooper that never occured
to me before, proof that Tayjor was not a wild human from their world --
his teeth-fillings are evident everytime he grimaces...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The
History
> Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.
>
> http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076
>
>
> Chris L.
> <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40625 |
From: gleaner63 |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Dr. Zaius |
|
.html ...the original Planet of the Apes is possibly my favorite movie of
all, so here's my question. "What did Dr. Zaius know and when did he
know it?". When he says; "..I've always known about man...",
and "...all my life I've awaited your coming and dreaded it...", what
exactly is he acknowledging? Was he really aware that Taylor's claim
about his identity was true? Also, how did he know it?
-Clarence <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40626 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:
In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The History
Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.
http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076
Chris L.
That was a historic TV showing of the movie! Never before has the film been so interrupted by commercials! I've never seen anything like it. Three minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, then another commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, and so it went for two and a half hours. Incredible -- and pan & scan to boot!
No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.
-- Rory <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40627 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
| Group: pota |
Message: 40628 |
From: Shane Miller |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Hello |
|
.html I am a new member and I think that this group is just perfect! I am
certain that many of you have read the recent limited run comic series
that fills in the time between "Conquest" and "Battle", I have read it
multiple times and loved it. I think that it would be cool if there
could be some more of the 'tweener' tales told. Conquest is my
favorite ape movie and I agree that I think it would be awesome to see
the 'R' rated cut, however, I would not want to see any scene that has
Governor Breck killed. He is one of my favorite film characters ever.
Keep up the good work on this group and in the words of his excellency
the Governor...
"...and the world will belong to a planet of apes!!!" <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40629 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
.html.html
| You can say that again, Rory! I just absolutely HATE that when a classic such as APES has to be constantly interrupted with commercials we've seen 1000 times or more. Sheesh! Zach
-------Original Message------- From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 02/04/07 07:32:02 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: POTA on The History Channel In a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@juno. com writes:
That was a historic TV showing of the movie! Never before has the film been so interrupted by commercials! I've never seen anything like it. Three minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, then another commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, and so it went for two and a half hours. Incredible -- and pan & scan to boot!
No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40630 |
From: rackworthykomix |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
.htmlDoes anyone know WHY exactly POTA was on the History Channel?
Normally, when they show movies, it's stuff like "Tora, Tora, Tora"
or "Patton", you know, Historical stuff. As POTA hasn't happened
yet...? Or does it have something to do with the Oscars?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> You can say that again, Rory! I just absolutely HATE that when a
classic
> such as APES has to be constantly interrupted with commercials
we've seen
> 1000 times or more. Sheesh!
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 02/04/07 07:32:02
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: POTA on The History Channel
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lawford42@juno
> com writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The
History
>
> Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.
>
>
>
> http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076
>
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That was a historic TV showing of the movie! Never before has the
film been
> so interrupted by commercials! I've never seen anything like it.
Three
> minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more
minutes of
> the movie, then another commercial break, then three more minutes
of the
> movie, and so it went for two and a half hours. Incredible -- and
pan &
> scan to boot!
>
>
>
> No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.
>
>
>
> -- Rory
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40631 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Hello |
.htmlWelcome, Shane, glad to have you onboard...Chexk out out features,
I'm sure you'll enjoy what the membership has posted...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Shane Miller" <masonverger12@...> wrote:
>
> I am a new member and I think that this group is just perfect! I
am
> certain that many of you have read the recent limited run comic
series
> that fills in the time between "Conquest" and "Battle", I have read
it
> multiple times and loved it. I think that it would be cool if
there
> could be some more of the 'tweener' tales told. Conquest is my
> favorite ape movie and I agree that I think it would be awesome to
see
> the 'R' rated cut, however, I would not want to see any scene that
has
> Governor Breck killed. He is one of my favorite film characters
ever.
> Keep up the good work on this group and in the words of his
excellency
> the Governor...
>
> "...and the world will belong to a planet of apes!!!"
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40632 |
From: Rob |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
|
.html Gotta say honestly that this was a bad comic. It played far too fast
and loose with ideas better thought out in the films, the art was
subpar and the story itself barely better than the Jason and
Alexander stories of the old Marvel Comic (Thanks Hunter for the site
since my issues are long gone).
Some of the problems were;
Why San Diego? While the first and second film clearly state that the
area of Ape City is the Tri-State area by showing Manhattan, how did
they decide that the city, only shown as NORTH AMERICA 1991, was San
Diego? It could have been a futuristic NY.
Apes who can fly military jets? This was hardly believable. If the
common man was as afraid as Breck, would they use Apes to be in the
military when they were slaves? I think not.
The whole Church Door idea rang false. They could have done a much
better job. I think there are people right on this site, who could
write a better comic script than the people behind Revolution. I'm
not damning them entirely. It was nice seeing a new Apes comic, but
some more effort to be in line with the movies would have been
better, rather than the (gag) Star Trek Enterprise route they took. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40633 |
From: Rob |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
|
.html It seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but why not?
From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else. Why
did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is blown
before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching again and
again and again.
And it always will be. <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40634 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlI kind of liked the idea. Reminded me of Battlefield Earth, which I
thought if reworked, could have been a cool planet of the apes tale...
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <frohike60@...> wrote:
Apes who can fly military jets? <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40635 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: battle |
.htmlMy guess is they can't find the print, or it would have appeared on
the Fox Movie Channel by now...
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Still, don't you think that they would put that on the disc...like
> alternate ending" or some such term?
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: 02/03/07 11:20:20
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: battle
>
>
>
> There was a more violent cut of Conquest that was tested. At the
end
>
> the Apes kill Breck and Caesar's speech ends at "and that day is
upon
>
> you now".
>
>
>
> After the test cut was shown in some theaters, they went back cut
some
>
> of the more violent scenes, including Breck's death and added the
>
> second part of Caesar's speech.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with
the
>
> member
>
> > that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put
the
>
> deleted
>
> > scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box
set
>
> comes
>
> > out. I wouldn't mind seeing those myself.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Zach
>
> >
>
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40636 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
.htmlThe only reason that I can think of why they showed Planet of the Apes
on the History channel is because they had two documentaries on
prehistoric apes. But someone answer this question for me. What was
that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when he was
tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: frohike60@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
It seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but
why not?
From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else. Why
did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is blown
before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching again
and
again and again.
And it always will be.
____________
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40637 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
.htmlOMG, a guy after my own heart!..."THEM!" "Forbidden Planet", "The Thing
from Another World", "The Day the Earth Stood Still"...Those are some
of my most favorite movies!...Here's one for you -- "Dinosaurus!"...I
luv this movie, partly because of nostalgia...It's the first movie I
remember seeing at the show...I was four or five yers old!...
"Ah, memories! We will enjoy them!"...Coneheads...=)
G
G--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <frohike60@...> wrote:
>
> It seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but why not?
> From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
> channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else.
Why
> did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
> handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
> World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
> entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
> dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is blown
> before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching again
and
> again and again.
> And it always will be.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40638 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
.htmlHis fallen dignity?...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> The only reason that I can think of why they showed Planet of the
Apes
> on the History channel is because they had two documentaries on
> prehistoric apes. But someone answer this question for me. What was
> that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when he
was
> tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: frohike60@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
> Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
>
> It seems an interesting choice for the History channel,
but
> why not?
> From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
> channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else.
Why
> did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
> handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
> World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
> entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
> dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is
blown
> before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching
again
> and
> again and again.
> And it always will be.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40639 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
.htmlIn the far left background (over Zaius' right shoulder), you can see,
when Taylor is tying him up, a brown and tan basket...
To the left of the screen (on Zaius' right side), under the wooden
scaffolding, are three pieces of charcoal gray pottery...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> What was
> that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when he
was
> tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: frohike60@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
> Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
>
> It seems an interesting choice for the History channel,
but
> why not?
> From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
> channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else.
Why
> did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
> handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
> World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
> entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
> dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is
blown
> before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching
again
> and
> again and again.
> And it always will be.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40640 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlI think the Revolution comic was excellent, but, being both a comics
and an Apes fan, maybe I can't be objective.In pure comics terms, the
run was refreshingly different, thought provoking( hence this
debate!) and free of the big boobed women and muscle bound men that
dominate most other 'indie' comics.In Apes terms, I think the comics
revived and added to the mythos--as this was an official product, if
they say it was San Diego, that's where it is, in my opinion--if we,
as fans, have to work a bit harder then to fill in the gaps then
that's part of the fun, foe me.And if you diss Jason and Alexander
again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls.
>
> Gotta say honestly that this was a bad comic. It played far too
fast
> and loose with ideas better thought out in the films, the art was
> subpar and the story itself barely better than the Jason and
> Alexander stories of the old Marvel Comic (Thanks Hunter for the
site
> since my issues are long gone).
>
> Some of the problems were;
> Why San Diego? While the first and second film clearly state that
the
> area of Ape City is the Tri-State area by showing Manhattan, how
did
> they decide that the city, only shown as NORTH AMERICA 1991, was
San
> Diego? It could have been a futuristic NY.
>
> Apes who can fly military jets? This was hardly believable. If the
> common man was as afraid as Breck, would they use Apes to be in the
> military when they were slaves? I think not.
>
> The whole Church Door idea rang false. They could have done a much
> better job. I think there are people right on this site, who could
> write a better comic script than the people behind Revolution. I'm
> not damning them entirely. It was nice seeing a new Apes comic, but
> some more effort to be in line with the movies would have been
> better, rather than the (gag) Star Trek Enterprise route they took.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40641 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Up Above the World so High |
|
.html Does anybody know where the final episode of the Apes tv series was
filmed? It's coastal and, if you look carefully during some of the
glider scenes, you can just make out some modern buildings. I'd love to
know what it all looks like today.I also wonder was Leuric going to be
a new ongoing character---the more humans you have, the less Apes you
need, therefore trimming the budget? He could have been really
interesting. John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40642 |
From: James |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlHe was great on Seinfeld!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
> And if you diss Jason Alexander
> again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40643 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlExcellent James.8-)
Brendan.
-- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> He was great on Seinfeld!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> > And if you diss Jason Alexander
> > again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40644 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius |
.htmlI'm not a 'POTA' expert, but I can only guess that having studied,
ruled & lived by the teachings of the Sacred Roles (written by THE
LAWGIVER), Zaius would've been familiar with many things about the
ancient world. How man used to cage animals, not the other way around.
How they used to have the knowledge of many things, but destroyed it
all.
Dr. Zaius might've been waiting for the eventual re-emergence of a
remote (lone tribe) of civilized men. Mutants as he called them. Not
the underground NYC mutants, but freaks of nature who could actually
talk, and do things most mute, wild humans couldn't do.
-RAUL
PS. I also seem to recall, in the "POTA" TV series, the other Dr.
Zaius onced mentioned that he'd come across (or heard) of other
Astronauts (he might've called them something else) who'd come before
BURKE & VIRDON. There's no mention what ever became of them though.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gleaner63" <gleaner63@...> wrote:
>
> ...the original Planet of the Apes is possibly my favorite movie of
> all, so here's my question. "What did Dr. Zaius know and when did
he
> know it?". When he says; "..I've always known about man...",
> and "...all my life I've awaited your coming and dreaded it...",
what
> exactly is he acknowledging? Was he really aware that Taylor's
claim
> about his identity was true? Also, how did he know it?
>
> -Clarence
> <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40645 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
.htmlThe other day, after watching "POTA," I was thinking ... the cave in
which CORNELLIUS and colleagues where digging in the Forbidden
Zone, 'Could it have been the ancient remains of a Skycrapper?' If
not Manhattan - then one of its surrounding Borroughs: Brooklyn,
Queens, The Bronx, Long Island, Yonkers, Coney Island.
RAUL
PS. And for the record, where do y'all theorize or care to guess, is
the approx. final, resting place of the severed top half of the
Statue of Liberty? Is it Jersey, Brooklyn, Queens or Lower Manhattan?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> In the far left background (over Zaius' right shoulder), you can
see,
> when Taylor is tying him up, a brown and tan basket...
> To the left of the screen (on Zaius' right side), under the wooden
> scaffolding, are three pieces of charcoal gray pottery...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@ wrote:
> >
> > What was
> > that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when
he
> was
> > tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: frohike60@
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
> > Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
> >
> > It seems an interesting choice for the History
channel,
> but
> > why not?
> > From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on
the
> > channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something
else.
> Why
> > did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a
select
> > handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from
Another
> > World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly,
timeless
> > entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
> > dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is
> blown
> > before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching
> again
> > and
> > again and again.
> > And it always will be.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
_________
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40646 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
| Group: pota |
Message: 40647 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
.htmlI think one of the reasons they might've shown "POTA" on the HISTORY
CHANNEL was as part of this "REEL TO REAL" movie presentation.
Sometimes during comercial breaks, they may cut to this (brief)
interview/commentary from the stars or directors. Or they may
present TRIVIA (similar to 'AMC-DVD on TV)'about the film.
Other times, "REEL to REAL" compares (talks about) real-life events
which parallel the movie (being shown). Or the events in which it
might've been been based on. Not sure where "POTA" fits into all
that, unless you bring in events from the 1960's, which may parallel
events subliminally addressed in the first 2 "POTA" movies.
-RAUL
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rackworthykomix" <rackworthykomix@...>
wrote:
>
> Does anyone know WHY exactly POTA was on the History Channel?
> Normally, when they show movies, it's stuff like "Tora, Tora,
Tora"
> or "Patton", you know, Historical stuff. As POTA hasn't happened
> yet...? Or does it have something to do with the Oscars?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@> wrote:
> >
> > You can say that again, Rory! I just absolutely HATE that when
a
> classic
> > such as APES has to be constantly interrupted with commercials
> we've seen
> > 1000 times or more. Sheesh!
> >
> >
> >
> > Zach
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Date: 02/04/07 07:32:02
> >
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Subject: [POTA] Re: POTA on The History Channel
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> lawford42@juno
> > com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on
The
> History
> >
> > Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That was a historic TV showing of the movie! Never before has
the
> film been
> > so interrupted by commercials! I've never seen anything like
it.
> Three
> > minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more
> minutes of
> > the movie, then another commercial break, then three more
minutes
> of the
> > movie, and so it went for two and a half hours. Incredible --
and
> pan &
> > scan to boot!
> >
> >
> >
> > No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40648 |
From: p3murds@aol.com |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
.html
.html
The POTA movie shows a mirror image of ourselves with racism, and civil
rights issues,... which was (and still is) a big issue at the
time. I think that since it is black history month, maybe they wanted to
show it. Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that they showed an Ape
movie in honor, and in celebration of Black History Month, but the movie does
send a strong message that many even today don't get!
Or we can accept the fact that is a great movie in our
History,...therefore, it was shown on the "History Channel"?
~Paul <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40649 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
.html
.html
In a message dated 2/5/2007 12:27:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
re_zuleta@... writes:
The
other day, after watching "POTA," I was thinking ... the cave in which
CORNELLIUS and colleagues where digging in the Forbidden Zone, 'Could it
have been the ancient remains of a Skycrapper?' If not Manhattan - then
one of its surrounding Borroughs: Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx, Long
Island, Yonkers, Coney Island.
RAUL
When I was young and first saw the film I thought that, too but
after scrutinizing the cave all these years there's nothing to indicate it was a
man-made structure of any kind. Those artifacts could have been tossed into
the cave by atomic winds over a thousand years before.
Bruce <.html
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40650 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 2/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Up Above the World so High |
.htmlOr for the matter ... what was the plot, or (hopeful) ending for
the "POTA" TV series. Were they trying to somehow find away to time
travel back to present day earth. To a time before WWIII.
Or did they give in to living out the remaining of their days
forever fleeing from Gen. Urko his Gorilla Army.
-RAUL
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know where the final episode of the Apes tv series
was
> filmed? It's coastal and, if you look carefully during some of the
> glider scenes, you can just make out some modern buildings. I'd
love to
> know what it all looks like today.I also wonder was Leuric going
to be
> a new ongoing character---the more humans you have, the less Apes
you
> need, therefore trimming the budget? He could have been really
> interesting. John, Scrolls.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40651 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlJames and John, the new Jerry and John!!! Apart from the fact that we
talk to one another, obviously.John, Scrolls.PS, WHO the hell is Jason
Alexander?
>
> He was great on Seinfeld!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> > And if you diss Jason Alexander
> > again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls.
> <.html
|
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40652 |
From: James |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlVisit the Yahoo Home page and you'll figure it out.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote: > > James and John, the new Jerry and John!!! Apart from the fact that we > talk to one another, obviously.John, Scrolls.PS, WHO the hell is Jason > Alexander? > >
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40653 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlWow! Helooks a lot like me! Fat, bald, glasses but with that certain
something the girls can't resist.Is he the guy who played Malcolm at
chess in Malcolm in the Middle---I always confuse this guy with Jean
Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation Street.And I meant
to say 'James and John are the new Jerry and Dean' but, not having had
a coffee at that point, totally ballsed it up.Which just goes to show
that Americans are indeed funnier than us and have a sense of
humour.Did I mention I also get delusional without coffee? John,
Scrolls.
>
>
> Visit the Yahoo Home page and you'll figure it out.
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > James and John, the new Jerry and John!!! Apart from the fact that
we
> > talk to one another, obviously.John, Scrolls.PS, WHO the hell is
Jason
> > Alexander?
> > >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40654 |
From: James |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlOf course we have a sense of humor. Look at our last two Presidents. LOL
And yes he was in an episode of Malcolm in the Middle. I guess you're
not a Seinfeld fan.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Wow! Helooks a lot like me! Fat, bald, glasses but with that certain
> something the girls can't resist.Is he the guy who played Malcolm at
> chess in Malcolm in the Middle---I always confuse this guy with Jean
> Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation Street.And I
meant
> to say 'James and John are the new Jerry and Dean' but, not having
had
> a coffee at that point, totally ballsed it up.Which just goes to show
> that Americans are indeed funnier than us and have a sense of
> humour.Did I mention I also get delusional without coffee? John,
> Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40655 |
From: Mark |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Capt. Maddox |
|
.html Did Tod Andrews (Capt. 'Skipper' Maddox) also play a mutant in BENEATH? Look at one the
first mutants that guide Brent away from the interrogation. Maybe this is well known and I
just never realized it. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40656 |
From: Mark |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlNext you'll be telling us you confused Dr. Zaius with Pat from Eastenders. I couldn't resist
man.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
I always confuse this guy with Jean Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation
Street. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40657 |
From: Tim |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: I'm back! |
|
.html Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du Soliel's "Beatles" show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid trip!
Did I miss anything here?
Tim <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40658 |
From: James |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I'm back! |
.htmlWelcome back Rich. Hope you won some money.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du Soliel's "Beatles"
show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
> Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid trip!
> Did I miss anything here?
> Tim
> <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 40659 |
From: Glen |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I'm back! |
.htmlWelcome back, Tim...What did you get for me in Vegas?...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du Soliel's "Beatles"
show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
> Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid trip!
> Did I miss anything here?
> Tim
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40660 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: I'm back! |
.htmlNothing I'm afraid.....in fact I left a few bucks
there,,,....=(
Glad the Colts won tho!!
--- Glen < HotScheetz@...> wrote:
> Welcome back, Tim...What did you get for me in
> Vegas?...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du
> Soliel's "Beatles"
> show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
> > Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid
> trip!
> > Did I miss anything here?
> > Tim
> >
>
>
>
________________________
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40661 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 2/6/2007 |
| Subject: Marvel UK Issue 121 |
.htmlIssue 121 is now available to download from Hunter's site. This issue contains 7 more pages each from the Battle and Beneath adaptations, plus a letter column. Also newly available on Hunter's site is an article from the April 1968 issue of Screenguide Magazine. Courtest of John Roche and Dave Ballard. Thanks, Greg
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40662 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel |
.html
.html
In a message dated 2/4/2007 12:01:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
frohike60@... writes:
It
seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but why not?
Because it completely defeats the purpose of
separating channels into genres. You may as
well have sports commentary on The Weather Channel.
I still don't know how some movies get on AMC. <.html
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40663 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
.html
.html
In a message dated 2/4/2007 9:32:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,
rackworthykomix@... writes:
Does
anyone know WHY exactly POTA was on the History Channel? Normally, when
they show movies, it's stuff like "Tora, Tora, Tora" or "Patton", you
know, Historical stuff. As POTA hasn't happened
yet...?
Must be sweeps week.
<.html
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 40664 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
.html
.html
In a message dated 2/4/2007 8:01:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,
phil_harmonik2005@... writes:
LOL- I
love MAD Tv :-)
Did anyone see the short lived Roseanne
Variety Show? They had Zira as a radio psychologist.
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From: Glen |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
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.htmlDarn!...Same as last time, eh?...=)
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> Nothing I'm afraid.....in fact I left a few bucks
> there,,,....=(
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> --- Glen <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
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> > Welcome back, Tim...What did you get for me in
> > Vegas?...
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> > G
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> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@>
> > wrote:
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> > > Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du
> > Soliel's "Beatles"
> > show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
> > > Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid
> > trip!
> > > Did I miss anything here?
> > > Tim
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From: drhasslein |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
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Message: 40667 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But... |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
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> > phil_harmonik2005@... writes:
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> > LOL- I love MAD Tv :-)
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> Did anyone see the short lived Roseanne Variety
> Show? They had Zira as a radio psychologist.
I wonder if YouTube has a video clip of that?
Otherwise... Roseanne has always made me puke
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From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel |
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In a message dated 2/5/2007 12:33:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,
p3murds@... writes:
The POTA
movie shows a mirror image of ourselves with racism, and civil rights
issues,... which was (and still is) a big issue at the time. I
think that since it is black history month, maybe they wanted to show
it. Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that they showed an Ape
movie in honor, and in celebration of Black History Month, but the movie does
send a strong message that many even today don't get!
Isn't that the same thing the Walmart website got in trouble for?
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From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Mike Ploog |
.htmlAnybody who can should go see Mike Ploog---he's just about the nicest
guy this side of Greg Plonowski and if he's doing sketches, just get in
the queue for a piece of comic art magic.John, Scrolls.
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> Mike Ploog is appearing February 11 at the Los Angeles comic book and
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Message: 40670 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 2/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes |
.htmlNo, not a big Seinfeld fan---through ignorance on my part really,
because those chatshow things lose everything in translation over
here.One baseball reference and we're all totally flummoxed.As for
your last two Presidents, I, personally, have a high regard for Bill
Clinton.I know he was a naughty boy in the Oval Office( but hell, I'd
have found it tough to say 'No, I'd prefer you to do some filing
instead') but I think there was a core of moral integrity and world
vision with the man.I like him.His successor, however, is no laughing
matter.John, Scrolls.
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> Of course we have a sense of humor. Look at our last two
Presidents. LOL
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> And yes he was in an episode of Malcolm in the Middle. I guess
you're
> not a Seinfeld fan.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
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> > Wow! Helooks a lot like me! Fat, bald, glasses but with that
certain
> > something the girls can't resist.Is he the guy who played Malcolm
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> > chess in Malcolm in the Middle---I always confuse this guy with
Jean
> > Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation Street.And I
> meant
> > to say 'James and John are the new Jerry and Dean' but, not
having
> had
> > a coffee at that point, totally ballsed it up.Which just goes to
show
> > that Americans are indeed funnier than us and have a sense of
> > humour.Did I mention I also get delusional without coffee? John,
> > Scrolls.
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