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Group: pota Message: 40570 From: JamesA1102 Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
Group: pota Message: 40571 From: garyroskell Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
Group: pota Message: 40572 From: Jonathan Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language +
Group: pota Message: 40573 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40574 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
Group: pota Message: 40575 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
Group: pota Message: 40576 From: Glen Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
Group: pota Message: 40577 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
Group: pota Message: 40578 From: john Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: battle
Group: pota Message: 40579 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
Group: pota Message: 40580 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
Group: pota Message: 40581 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
Group: pota Message: 40582 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: battle
Group: pota Message: 40583 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
Group: pota Message: 40584 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
Group: pota Message: 40585 From: john Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: thanks
Group: pota Message: 40586 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
Group: pota Message: 40587 From: peter_karsten63 Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: TV-Series Boardgame.
Group: pota Message: 40588 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: battle
Group: pota Message: 40589 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: thanks
Group: pota Message: 40590 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: goin' to Vegas!
Group: pota Message: 40591 From: Glen Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas!
Group: pota Message: 40592 From: Chris Lawless Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Mr. Comics free story
Group: pota Message: 40593 From: drhasslein Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
Group: pota Message: 40594 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40595 From: Glen Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40596 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40597 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas!
Group: pota Message: 40598 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40599 From: jose ramon Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40601 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas!
Group: pota Message: 40602 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40603 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
Group: pota Message: 40604 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40605 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40606 From: Dario Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 40607 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 40608 From: Glen Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40609 From: john rutkoski Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: battle
Group: pota Message: 40610 From: Glen Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
Group: pota Message: 40611 From: Dario Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 40612 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Ape City Map
Group: pota Message: 40613 From: Jonathan Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
Group: pota Message: 40614 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Comment retracted...
Group: pota Message: 40615 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: battle
Group: pota Message: 40616 From: Rich Handley Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2909
Group: pota Message: 40617 From: James Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: battle
Group: pota Message: 40618 From: James Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
Group: pota Message: 40619 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
Group: pota Message: 40620 From: Glen Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: Comment retracted...
Group: pota Message: 40621 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: battle
Group: pota Message: 40622 From: Chris Lawless Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40623 From: simianarms Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
Group: pota Message: 40624 From: Glen Date: 2/3/2007
Subject: Re: Bloopers on the POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40625 From: gleaner63 Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Dr. Zaius
Group: pota Message: 40626 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40627 From: Jonathan Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
Group: pota Message: 40628 From: Shane Miller Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Hello
Group: pota Message: 40629 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40630 From: rackworthykomix Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40631 From: Glen Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: Hello
Group: pota Message: 40632 From: Rob Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40633 From: Rob Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40634 From: drhasslein Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40635 From: drhasslein Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: battle
Group: pota Message: 40636 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40637 From: Glen Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40638 From: Glen Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40639 From: Glen Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40640 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40641 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Up Above the World so High
Group: pota Message: 40642 From: James Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40643 From: brendan486 Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40644 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius
Group: pota Message: 40645 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40646 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
Group: pota Message: 40647 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40648 From: p3murds@aol.com Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40649 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40650 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Up Above the World so High
Group: pota Message: 40651 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40652 From: James Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40653 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40654 From: James Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40655 From: Mark Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Capt. Maddox
Group: pota Message: 40656 From: Mark Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 40657 From: Tim Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: I'm back!
Group: pota Message: 40658 From: James Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: I'm back!
Group: pota Message: 40659 From: Glen Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: I'm back!
Group: pota Message: 40660 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: I'm back!
Group: pota Message: 40661 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Marvel UK Issue 121
Group: pota Message: 40662 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40663 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40664 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
Group: pota Message: 40665 From: Glen Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: I'm back!
Group: pota Message: 40666 From: drhasslein Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Mike Ploog
Group: pota Message: 40667 From: Jonathan Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
Group: pota Message: 40668 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
Group: pota Message: 40669 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: Mike Ploog
Group: pota Message: 40670 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/7/2007
Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes



Group: pota Message: 40570 From: JamesA1102 Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
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Interesting. Was that when Blake Edwards was supposed to direct the film?
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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:48 AM
Subject: [POTA] I didn't know that!

Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that Planet of the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
 
Neil
 

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Group: pota Message: 40571 From: garyroskell Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
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Am I the only one that's finding this thread offensive as well as irrelevant? Still loved him even though he was a homo? Does that mean if it hadn't been Roddy but someone else who was a homo you would have minded? Or that you loved Roddy despite the fact he was a homo? And how derogatory is the term 'homo'?

I'm sure offence wasn't intended, but discussions of cast members sexuality should have no place in a forum like this.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman" <thadesdarlinghuman@...> wrote:
>
> Okay, now, how many did not know Roddy McDowall was a Homo?
> Really, now?
> I didn't give a damn. I still loved him!
> Rumor had it even back then but it was hushed. Hell, who knew
> Raymond Burr was?!
> So was Rock Hudson but his sway got him killed...
> At least Roddy and Raymond had enough sense to stay with one life
> partner...
> Roddy died from lung cancer and Big ole Raymond passed due to some
> overweight disease...
> I don't care. Roddy was my man... I loved (and still love) him
> unconditionally.
> I'm just glad Tim Roth loves women!
>
> Woohoo!
> Thade's Darling Human
>
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Group: pota Message: 40572 From: Jonathan Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language +
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> The Ape language, English, didn't evolve much over
> 2000 years--a guy in England, even in 1066, would
> be virtually unintelligible to an English speaker
> in 2007.The Apes clearly have scope to create new
> words -- 'Oper', for example---but don't hint at any
> dialects, other Ape languages.Boulle's novel suggests
> the Apes slavishly (no pun intended) copied superior
> humans. I think, in reality, Ape language would have
> altered a tremendous amount and that, 2000 years on,
> Taylor would struggle to converse with Zira et al.
> You know Al, her cousin?
> John, Scrolls.

I positively agree :-)

Boulle had it right, when the astronaut had to spend
quite some time learning the Ape's language so that he
could communicate with them- itself an amazing accom-
plishment when one considers that he didn't exactly have
structured classroom lessons. And even then, to the Apes
his speach to them would have been stilted, fragmented
and somewhat rudimentary. We see this in our own society,
as for example Koreans attain U.S. citizenship, learn what
English they can, and seldom sound 'quite right' as they
speak. Their children however, raised here, speak English
fluently. Boulle's 'Taylor', to the Apes, would have sug-
gested that Humans can learn to speak, and their lanuage,
but 'Taylor' would have sounded rather 'dumb' in doing so,
which would to Apes suggests that he was too primitive to
master language properly. This would reinforce their be-
lief that Humans were little more than bright animals.

As far as POTA is concerned, indeed 'English' would have
modified- evolved, progressed in a natural fashion to be-
come virtually a whole ne language, inded as different, if
not more different, than English in real life was 600 to a
1000 years ago. Our language indeed has changed a great
deal even within that last 100-200 years.

And again, from a realistic perspective, Taylor should
have been amazed by two thigns, that told him that he had
indeed returned to Earth. 1) That there were Earth crea-
tures about- beginning with the Apes- plus horses and other
animals, which would obviously not exist on an alien planet,
plus, 2) the Apes spoke largely proper English, 'proper'
meaning that it was so easy to understand in virtually every
way. Something that a true alien species would not be doing.
heck, even in this age of instantaneous world-comminication,
people still hold onto their native languages tenaciously.

In the end, there is only one thing that can explain why
the Apes retained the ability to speak 'proper' English. And
that reason is... books. Surely, for centuries, Apes used
what books that had survived to carry on some technologies,
such as for gun and camera making and other things. These
books were few, and it's obvious that such artifacts were
often also stored permanently away, or destroyed, being viewed
as 'evil human artifacts' through various periods of Ape his-
tory, as they continued to claim the Earth and their culture
as their own. Making use of boks to any degree, and to benefit
from what they offered, meant retaining the language that they
were written in. And as time went by, and books made with
acid-laden paper crumbled to dust, tomes were lost ot inten-
tionally destroyed, and so on, eventually there were virtually
no intact human books left, unable to endure centuries of
handling over such a long period of time. Paper... is not
like the more durable velum made from animal skins, and only
acid-free paper would have endured for actual centuries. Even
the U.S. Declaration of Independance is showing much wear after
only 231 years, on acid-free stock, a document that hasn't been
physically 'handled' for quite some time.

I would suggest that there were very few usable 'modern
day' books that survived past 500 to 1000 years, and by per-
haps after 1500 years... nearly all of them were gone. By
2000 years there was nearly none- scraps here and there at
best.

Another thought I'd like to present as a theory as to
why POTA Apes never maintained the manufacturing of machi-
nery such as the internal combustion engine and factories
and plants for making electricity, and many other things
on that industrial scale. Two things, I think. First,
there just wasn't enough Apes about to maintain the infra-
structures that supported such, and certainly not enough
early on that understood much of it. By the time the Apes
had 'evolved' enough to comprehend enough of it, much of it
was already crumbling and rusting to uselessness. Undus-
trial-quality circumstances need a great deal of constant
maintenance, in fact enormous amounts of such, and even
by the time of POTA the Apes were still too few to make
'cities' large enough which to us are little more than
small towns. Their numbers still being small, and with
industries now rubble, they are still stuck in an age less
advanced than 1850's America, and is nearly Medieval.

The likely second reason that Apes did not come to
mechanization and industrialization, is the belief that
such devices and processes are the tools of Man, which
led to world war and Man's final downfall, and the Apes
did not want to risk following the same path. Early in
their history, as with book-burnings, they perhaps also
went out of their way to further destroy Man's vile tools
of evil. The history of real life reveals how those op-
posed have little difficulty tearing down and burning down
that which offends them, as is VERY clearly revealed in
BENEATH when the Apes are determined to pull down and
destrpy the Alpha-Omega missle... after also destroying
the statues and busts of himans in the Gallery hallway.
They obviously hold contempt for anything man-made, dri-
ven to destroy such whenever they encounter it, judging it
to be 'Obsene', in Zaius' own words. So then... early on
in Ape history, much of what was built by Man was very
likely razed to the ground, pulled down or smashed to bits,
and very nearly everywhere. Untimately the Apes did not
want to follow Man's path, now preferrring a more agrarian
or 'agricultural society' than a mechanized industrial one.
They shun such just as some present-day religions, the Amish
being one example. The destruction that took place in BE-
NEATH at the hands of the Apes was a fine example of how
much they hate the things that Man made, and likely in very
nearly all of its forms... except for a few select useful
items, like firearms.

Retaining English as a language still proved useful how-
ever, and perhaps because of a bit of philosophy, unspoken
in any of the films, that served the Apes well, that being...
'To best understand good, one also must have a full under-
standing... of evil'. If this has any truth at all, indeed
what humans left behind was studied well... to better know
what to avoid, and... to destroy, which in the end left very
little to be discovered 2000 years hence, with what the Apes
themselves brought further down, and what's still be reclaimed,
by nature, as even the remnants are now indeed turning to dust.

~ Jon
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Group: pota Message: 40573 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Ape Language
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> The Ape language, English, didn't evolve much over 2000 years--a guy in
> England, even in 1066, would be virtually unintelligible to an English
> speaker in 2007.

Hell a guy in England in 2007 is virtually unintelligible to me. When are you limeys going to drop the pretentious accent and learn to speak proper english like us Americans;-)

> The Apes clearly have scope to create new words --
> 'Oper', for example---but don't hint at any dialects, other Ape
> languages.Boulle's novel suggests the Apes slavishly (no pun intended)
> copied superior humans.I think, in reality, Ape language would have
> altered a tremendous amount and that, 2000 years on, Taylor would
> struggle to converse with Zira et al.You know Al, her cousin? John,
> Scrolls.

On one hand you could say the Apes have an arrested culture that hasn't evolved much over 2,000 years, including their language. On the other hand it does make sense that dialects would have developed over that time.

If I recall correctly, they did want to have the Apes speaking a different langauge at first but Heston argued against it.

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Group: pota Message: 40574 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
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In a message dated 2/1/2007 1:16:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, markalyce@... writes:

When I first started collecting Apes stuff Years ago I started with the
film posters. Over the years people/collectors have told me that the B-
style poster for Conquest was much harder to poster to find than the A
style. I see the B Style all the time on EBay. Does anyone here own the
A Style one sheet? It looks like the British one sheet poster. The
orange one with the apes running and the two apes holding Gov. Breck.
Just Curious.

It's also the insert poster artwork (14x36) and I've been dying to get either the insert or full-sized (27x41) so-called "red" poster but even the damaged ones go for big bucks on eBay.
 
Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 40575 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
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In a message dated 2/1/2007 3:38:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Interesting. Was that when Blake Edwards was supposed to direct the film?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:48 AM
Subject: [POTA] I didn't know that!

Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that Planet of the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
 
Neil
 
Around 1964 I think. The back of one of the PLANET paperbacks I have from 1963 said it was to be filmed in 1964 and Edwards was the first supposedly going to direct it  wasn't he?
 
Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 40576 From: Glen Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
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I think you're right...I remember reading something about that, too...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 3:38:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Interesting. Was that when Blake Edwards was supposed to direct
the film?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: _Neil T Foster_ (mailto:ntfoster@...)
> To: _pota@..._ (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com)
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:48 AM
> Subject: [POTA] I didn't know that!
>
>
>
>
> Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that
Planet of
> the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Around 1964 I think. The back of one of the PLANET paperbacks I
have from
> 1963 said it was to be filmed in 1964 and Edwards was the first
supposedly
> going to direct it wasn't he?
>
> Bruce
>
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Group: pota Message: 40577 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
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--  No it wasn't, it was later. 
 Anyway I sent that post to the wrong group, it was meant to go to the POTADG.
My mistake, sorry!
 
Neil
 
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting. Was that when Blake
Edwards was supposed to direct the film?
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Group: pota Message: 40578 From: john Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: battle
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hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in
the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the
total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage
is in, does it make it a much different movie ?
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Group: pota Message: 40579 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
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I'm glad Edwards didn't direct. Peter Sellars would have made a lousy
Taylor. But Herbert Lom might have been a fair Zaius.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> Around 1964 I think. The back of one of the PLANET paperbacks I have
from
> 1963 said it was to be filmed in 1964 and Edwards was the first
supposedly
> going to direct it wasn't he?
>
> Bruce
>
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Group: pota Message: 40580 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
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Speaking for the moderators we apologize for letting this thread go on as long as it has. Our goal is not to censor people so sometimes we mis-judge when something has crossed the line. We're sorry.

 


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "garyroskell" <gary@...> wrote:
>
> Am I the only one that's finding this thread offensive as well as
> irrelevant? Still loved him even though he was a homo? Does that mean if
> it hadn't been Roddy but someone else who was a homo you would have
> minded? Or that you loved Roddy despite the fact he was a homo? And how
> derogatory is the term 'homo'?
>
> I'm sure offence wasn't intended, but discussions of cast members
> sexuality should have no place in a forum like this.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
> thadesdarlinghuman@ wrote:
> >
> > Okay, now, how many did not know Roddy McDowall was a Homo?
> > Really, now?
> > I didn't give a damn. I still loved him!
> > Rumor had it even back then but it was hushed. Hell, who knew
> > Raymond Burr was?!
> > So was Rock Hudson but his sway got him killed...
> > At least Roddy and Raymond had enough sense to stay with one life
> > partner...
> > Roddy died from lung cancer and Big ole Raymond passed due to some
> > overweight disease...
> > I don't care. Roddy was my man... I loved (and still love) him
> > unconditionally.
> > I'm just glad Tim Roth loves women!
> >
> > Woohoo!
> > Thade's Darling Human
> >
>

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Group: pota Message: 40581 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
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Have you tried Moviegoods.com:
http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_product.asp?sku=221656&master%5Fmovie%5Fid=4275

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
>
> It's also the insert poster artwork (14x36) and I've been dying to
get
> either the insert or full-sized (27x41) so-called "red" poster but
even the
> damaged ones go for big bucks on eBay.
>
> Bruce
>
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Group: pota Message: 40582 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: battle
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The extra footage is incorporated into the film and makes it about 10
minutes longer.
If you want to read a list of the extra footage go to the group's
Database section http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database and
select Battle Uncut.
Also if you want to see the two key scenes that were restored check out
this in the Group website's Video section:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/AlphaOmega.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "john" <rutkoskijohn@...> wrote:
>
> hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in
> the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is
the
> total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new
footage
> is in, does it make it a much different movie ?
>
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Group: pota Message: 40583 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
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In a message dated 2/1/2007 5:16:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Have you tried Moviegoods.com:
http://www.moviegoo ds.com/movie_ product.asp? sku=221656& master%5Fmovie% 5Fid=4275

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
>
>
> It's also the insert poster artwork (14x36) and I've been dying to
get
> either the insert or full-sized (27x41) so-called "red" poster but
even the
> damaged ones go for big bucks on eBay.
>
> Bruce

Thanks but masterprint is another word for "copy."  But thanks.
Bruce 
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Group: pota Message: 40584 From: James Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: I didn't know that!
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Hey, you were only off 2 letters;-) But there is no need to apologize.
No harm done and at this point it's like trying to put tooth paste back
in the tube.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- No it wasn't, it was later.
> Anyway I sent that post to the wrong group, it was meant to go to the
> POTADG.
> My mistake, sorry!
>
> Neil
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JamesA1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting. Was that when Blake Edwards was supposed to direct the
> film?
>
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Group: pota Message: 40585 From: john Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: thanks
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Thanks, I was always dissapointed with battle it seemed rushed, and had
a bit of a tv movie feel. does the extra ten minutes make the movie
much better. I always thought if they could make some of those battle
scenes at the end, longer, and more ellaborate. it might have worked,
also instead of most of the mutants dying, their could have been more
dialogue between them and ceaser.
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Group: pota Message: 40586 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Roddy...
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    The way that I see it, if Roddy was gay, he was.  In any case, he certainly was a dynamic actor!
     
    Zach 
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    From: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: 02/01/07 09:06:48
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [POTA] Roddy...
     

    i knew he was i still love him
    --- LordTZer0@AOL. com wrote:

    >
    > In a message dated 2/1/2007 12:54:39 A.M. Central
    > Standard Time,
    > thadesdarlinghuman@ yahoo.com writes:
    >
    > Roddy McDowall was a Homo?
    > I didn't give a damn. I still loved him!
    >
    >
    >
    > No imagery, please.
    >
    >

    byeeee!


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    Group: pota Message: 40587 From: peter_karsten63 Date: 2/1/2007
    Subject: TV-Series Boardgame.
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    Hi Everyone,

    Just dropping in to tell you that I have downloaded a file that you
    can copy to make a Tv-Series Boardgame from the live-action Tv-Series
    which I made.

    So have a look, make the game, and play.

    Go to the Friends and Fugitives to download the file.

    Naturally if there are any questions, please ask.

    All the best for now.

    Peter.
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    Group: pota Message: 40588 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/1/2007
    Subject: Re: battle
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      It makes it more complete.  I wish that they would do the same to BENEATH and to ESCAPE.
       
      Zach  
       
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      From: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Date: 02/01/07 16:13:47
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [POTA] battle
       

      hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in
      the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the
      total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage
      is in, does it make it a much different movie ?

       
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      Group: pota Message: 40589 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/1/2007
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        BATTLE was much more complete with the extra footage.
         
        Here's some examples of why I'd like to see extra footage added to BENEATH and to ESCAPE.
         
        1.  The posters for BENEATH clearly show the Ape Army marching past the ruins of the New York Stock Exchange, the Public Library and Radio City Music Hall on the way to the Cathedral...when the movie hit our theater in late July, 1970, I well remember seeing those scenes...besides, the way it is featured now, a person probably would wonder, "Well, what happened to the Fat Man (Adiposo, played by Victor Buono), Caspay (played by Jeff Corey), and the Verger (played by Gregory Sierra)?"  There was a scene when General Ursus had those three brutally gunned down right in front of the ruined Radio City marquee (they were on their way to cover, what I still don't understand is why they weren't already in hiding as per Mendez XXVI's instructions). 
         
        It also seemed as if General Ursus' speech to the crowd was much longer...as well as the steam room conversation that he had had with Dr. Zaius.
         
        I seem to recall that the dialogue at the end of BENEATH between Taylor and Zaius was longer. 
         
        2.  We've spoke about it quite a bit already, but it would be FANTASTIC to have the ship scenes in ESCAPE added on to a DVD, finally.  I read the original shooting scripts (by the way, thanks a lot, Hunter) and how they launched the ship and was in orbit when the Bomb was activated, afterwards the shock wave hit the ship, sending it into the Hasslein Curve back to Earth in 1973...that would have been great, as far as I'm concerned.   
         
        Fellow Apesters, what are your views on these?
         
        Zach 
         
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        From: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Date: 02/01/07 17:14:27
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [POTA] thanks
         

        Thanks, I was always dissapointed with battle it seemed rushed, and had
        a bit of a tv movie feel. does the extra ten minutes make the movie
        much better. I always thought if they could make some of those battle
        scenes at the end, longer, and more ellaborate. it might have worked,
        also instead of most of the mutants dying, their could have been more
        dialogue between them and ceaser.

         
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        Group: pota Message: 40590 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/1/2007
        Subject: goin' to Vegas!
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        hello all.....
        I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
        going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
        have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
        back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
        missed anything!
        Cheers!
        Tim



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        Group: pota Message: 40591 From: Glen Date: 2/1/2007
        Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas!
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        Have fun, Tim...Win big!...

        G

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
        >
        > hello all.....
        > I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
        > going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
        > have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
        > back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
        > missed anything!
        > Cheers!
        > Tim
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 40592 From: Chris Lawless Date: 2/1/2007
        Subject: Re: Mr. Comics free story
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        Thanks for the info guys!!

        Chris L.
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        Group: pota Message: 40593 From: drhasslein Date: 2/2/2007
        Subject: Re: Roddy...
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        FYI - No he didn't.... And I won't elaborate.....

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
        <thadesdarlinghuman@...> wrote:
        >
        Roddy died from lung cancer ...
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 40594 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
        Subject: Re: Ape Language
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        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

        Dave sez (in a terribly posh and unintelligible accent)

        I think the Ape culture, or at least that small part of it we get to
        see in the first two movies, is one that is very resistant to change.
        I suspect that for generations the ruling orangutans have made
        scientific progress very difficult for fear of where such progress
        leads. I suspect they know what is possible but a proggression from
        horse power to steam to electricity etc destroyed the world once
        before (presumably) and they'd want to remove the temptation so it
        can't happen again.

        Such a philosophy of religiously keeping things the way they are
        (innocent?) may have extended into the classrooms - I can see little
        chimp students having the palms of thier hands rapped with a ruler
        because they've just invented a new word ("Pericles! You shame the
        language of our fathers!)

        Of course, that the language originates from humans makes it all
        deliciously ironic.

        It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate attempt to
        isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the movies
        tried something similar?

        Dave
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        Group: pota Message: 40595 From: Glen Date: 2/2/2007
        Subject: Re: Ape Language
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        It was a great book, though...

        G

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
        > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate attempt to
        > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the movies
        > tried something similar?
        >
        > Dave
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 40596 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
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        Really? I didn't even know it was a book!

        Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?

        Dave


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
        >
        > It was a great book, though...
        >
        > G
        >
        > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
        > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate attempt to
        > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the movies
        > > tried something similar?
        > >
        > > Dave
        > >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 40597 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/2/2007
        Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas!
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          Have a great time, Tim!
           
          Zach   
           
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          From: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Date: 02/01/07 22:27:35
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [POTA] goin' to Vegas!
           

          hello all.....
          I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
          going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
          have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
          back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
          missed anything!
          Cheers!
          Tim

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          Group: pota Message: 40598 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Ape Language
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          When you get Ursus using words like 'ineluctable' the yes, maybe the
          Apes took a special pride in preserving the language, especially as
          it could be viewed as the key to their liberty, through its use in
          the rebellion, and also as Casar's gift to his people.Another
          cultural point is clothing--I can see that the colour schemes were
          slave uniform echoes, but how did the Apes come up with their
          particular designs? Had somebody seen and described the clothing of
          Zira and Cornelius? Had Armando given young Caesar a Cornelius style
          romper suit? John, Scrolls.
          >
          > Really? I didn't even know it was a book!
          >
          > Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
          >
          > Dave
          >
          >
          > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
          > >
          > > It was a great book, though...
          > >
          > > G
          > >
          > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
          > > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate
          attempt to
          > > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the
          movies
          > > > tried something similar?
          > > >
          > > > Dave
          > > >
          > >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40599 From: jose ramon Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Ape Language
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          We have examples of languages that thanks to be used in religions, sacred liturgies or texts do not undergo changes. Perhaps its language was revealed by the Lawgiver.
           
          JR.


          shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
          When you get Ursus using words like 'ineluctable' the yes, maybe the
          Apes took a special pride in preserving the language, especially as
          it could be viewed as the key to their liberty, through its use in
          the rebellion, and also as Casar's gift to his people.Another
          cultural point is clothing--I can see that the colour schemes were
          slave uniform echoes, but how did the Apes come up with their
          particular designs? Had somebody seen and described the clothing of
          Zira and Cornelius? Had Armando given young Caesar a Cornelius style
          romper suit? John, Scrolls.
          >
          > Really? I didn't even know it was a book!
          >
          > Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
          >
          > Dave
          >
          >
          > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@ > wrote:
          > >
          > > It was a great book, though...
          > >
          > > G
          > >
          > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ > wrote:
          > > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate
          attempt to
          > > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the
          movies
          > > > tried something similar?
          > > >
          > > > Dave
          > > >
          > >
          >



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          Group: pota Message: 40601 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: goin' to Vegas!
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          Good for you Tim! Have a great time. I'm very jealous. Remember Las Vegas is the future site of Central City so be sure to bury something that will be useful to Burke & Virdon in 1,000 years. Also, never hit on a dealer 16.


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
          >
          > hello all.....
          > I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
          > going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
          > have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
          > back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
          > missed anything!
          > Cheers!
          > Tim
          >
          >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40602 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Ape Language
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          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
          >
          >
          > Dave sez (in a terribly posh and unintelligible accent)
          >

          Could you repeat that and please speak more slowly.
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          Group: pota Message: 40603 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Roddy...
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          Please don't. Let's kill this thread everyone. Thanks.

          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
          >
          > FYI - No he didn't.... And I won't elaborate.....
          >
          >> >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40604 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Ape Language
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          Very good points Jose.

          I'd also point out that a language will change over generations due to
          the influence of other langauges. Usually due to a culture speaking one
          language conquering another culture speaking a different language.

          However, if the North American ape nation is completely isolated and
          everyone speaks english then the influences that would change language
          over time would be absent.

          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jose ramon <joseramonruizdiez@...> wrote:
          >
          > We have examples of languages that thanks to be used in religions,
          sacred liturgies or texts do not undergo changes. Perhaps its language
          was revealed by the Lawgiver.
          >
          > JR.
          >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40605 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Ape Language
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          Just a thought but isn't this, to some degree what is practised by the
          Amish (Aimish?)communities?

          Dave



          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
          >
          > Very good points Jose.
          >
          > I'd also point out that a language will change over generations due to
          > the influence of other langauges. Usually due to a culture speaking one
          > language conquering another culture speaking a different language.
          >
          > However, if the North American ape nation is completely isolated and
          > everyone speaks english then the influences that would change language
          > over time would be absent.
          >
          > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jose ramon <joseramonruizdiez@> wrote:
          > >
          > > We have examples of languages that thanks to be used in religions,
          > sacred liturgies or texts do not undergo changes. Perhaps its language
          > was revealed by the Lawgiver.
          > >
          > > JR.
          > >
          > >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40606 From: Dario Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet
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          Here are the translations:

          (Russian 1) Ïëàíåòà Îáåçüÿí = Planet of the Apes.

          (Russian 2) Öàñòü Ïåðâàÿà = Part I.

          I had them translated by a Russian, not myself.

          Dario


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
          >
          > I'm about to upload 2 images from the Russian Language version of
          > Monkey Planet.
          >
          > Thing is, this book appears to contain more than just Boulle's
          novel
          > and these illustrations may not even relate but having said that
          they
          > do seem to show some apes.
          >
          > I can't read Russian so if anyone can throw some light on these and
          > possibly translate those captions I'd be interested.
          >
          > Thanks,
          > Dave
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40607 From: Dave B Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet
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          Thanks Dario, much appreciated.

          It looks then like the book was illustrated by an artist who wasn't
          familiar with the story. I wonder if the Yoda-like character in
          Russian 1 is supposed to be Zaius?

          There are some more illustrations scattered throughout the book but
          none of these feature anything remotely resembling Monkey Planet.

          I posted the cover about a month ago and that seemed to feature a
          scene from a different story too.

          Dave



          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
          >
          > Here are the translations:
          >
          > (Russian 1) Ïëàíåòà Îáåçüÿí = Planet of the Apes.
          >
          > (Russian 2) Öàñòü Ïåðâàÿà = Part I.
          >
          > I had them translated by a Russian, not myself.
          >
          > Dario
          >
          >
          > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
          > >
          > > I'm about to upload 2 images from the Russian Language version of
          > > Monkey Planet.
          > >
          > > Thing is, this book appears to contain more than just Boulle's
          > novel
          > > and these illustrations may not even relate but having said that
          > they
          > > do seem to show some apes.
          > >
          > > I can't read Russian so if anyone can throw some light on these and
          > > possibly translate those captions I'd be interested.
          > >
          > > Thanks,
          > > Dave
          > >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40608 From: Glen Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: Ape Language
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          Oh, no, I haven't...Where are they?...

          G

          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
          >
          > Really? I didn't even know it was a book!
          >
          > Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
          >
          > Dave
          >
          >
          > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
          > >
          > > It was a great book, though...
          > >
          > > G
          > >
          > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
          > > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate
          attempt to
          > > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the
          movies
          > > > tried something similar?
          > > >
          > > > Dave
          > > >
          > >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 40609 From: john rutkoski Date: 2/2/2007
          Subject: Re: battle
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            well i think the one they really needed to stretch out was conquest. it seems in the movie the apes became intelligent in hours. now i know you don't have much time with a movie, but they needed to give the impression how the apes took control over hundreds of years. i thought also when they showed the apes getting trained in conquest, they could have been smarter, then have these world wide bombs going off, destoying a large part of the world, and now apes are on more of an equal level with humans, and gradually take over.  now there's a movie.  the producers just rushed conquest ,and battle.  now two examples of movies that have some good new world footage that could have been great along with a great story, are the terminator movies when they show us clips of the war with machines, and even though this movie bombed the arial and land scenes were great in battlefield earth. can you imagine having those shots with apes ,and humans running around and battling. we could even use the battle shots from lord of the rings.

            zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
            It makes it more complete.  I wish that they would do the same to BENEATH and to ESCAPE.
             
            Zach  
             
            -------Original Message----- --
             
            Date: 02/01/07 16:13:47
            Subject: [POTA] battle
             
            hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in
            the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the
            total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage
            is in, does it make it a much different movie ?

             
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            Group: pota Message: 40610 From: Glen Date: 2/2/2007
            Subject: Re: Ape Language
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            Okay, the first illo is the cover and says "Monkey Planet",
            or "Planet of the Apes"...The second one says "First Part", or "Part
            One"...Sorry, I dropped the ball...

            G

            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
            >
            > Really? I didn't even know it was a book!
            >
            > Glen, Have you had a chance to look at those Russian pages?
            >
            > Dave
            >
            >
            > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
            > >
            > > It was a great book, though...
            > >
            > > G
            > >
            > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
            > > > It was a crap film but 'The Village' featured a deliberate
            attempt to
            > > > isolate a community from progress. Maybe the Ape City in the
            movies
            > > > tried something similar?
            > > >
            > > > Dave
            > > >
            > >
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 40611 From: Dario Date: 2/2/2007
            Subject: Re: Russian Monkey Planet
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            OK, I had a longer talk with my Russian buddy. It appears that a
            more correct translation would be "Planet of the Monkeys"
            (or "Monkey Planet" if you prefer) for the first one. Like other
            languages, there does not appear to be a direct one-to-one
            translation of the word "Ape". Same reason that other languages
            like Italian and Spanish use "Simian" for their PotA titles.

            Just wanted to clear it up before someone takes me to task.

            Dario

            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
            >
            > Here are the translations:
            >
            > (Russian 1) Ïëàíåòà Îáåçüÿí = Planet of the Apes.
            >
            > (Russian 2) Öàñòü Ïåðâàÿà = Part I.
            >
            > I had them translated by a Russian, not myself.
            >
            > Dario
            >
            >
            > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
            > >
            > > I'm about to upload 2 images from the Russian Language version of
            > > Monkey Planet.
            > >
            > > Thing is, this book appears to contain more than just Boulle's
            > novel
            > > and these illustrations may not even relate but having said that
            > they
            > > do seem to show some apes.
            > >
            > > I can't read Russian so if anyone can throw some light on these
            and
            > > possibly translate those captions I'd be interested.
            > >
            > > Thanks,
            > > Dave
            > >
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 40612 From: James Date: 2/2/2007
            Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver/Ape City Map
            .html

            Another week and the new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to all who contributed.

            To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

            Also, if you haven't, or even if you have, be sure to check out Glen's Ape City map on the group website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Maps.htm. The final draft has now been posted.

            Visit all the Group's special features including:

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            Group: pota Message: 40613 From: Jonathan Date: 2/2/2007
            Subject: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
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            Group: pota Message: 40614 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 2/3/2007
            Subject: Comment retracted...
            .html
            Surly I meant no ill will from my comments and am sorry if I
            offended..
            It's not like anyone really gives a crap what I have to say here
            anyway...
            Rebuttals have been ignored and I have tried to gain some little
            piece of respect but you all have shot me down many times...
            It's as if you all hold all the answers in your palms and you
            DON'T CARE what anyone, from outside of your clique, has to say or
            feels...
            I'm sorry if I offended anyone or am doing so right now, but this
            is the cliquiest group I've dealt with in a lllooonnnggg time...
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            Group: pota Message: 40615 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/3/2007
            Subject: Re: battle
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              Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with the member that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put the deleted scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box set comes out.  I wouldn't mind seeing those myself.
               
              Zach 
               
              -------Original Message-------
               
              From: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Date: 02/02/07 13:02:58
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [POTA] battle
               

              well i think the one they really needed to stretch out was conquest. it seems in the movie the apes became intelligent in hours. now i know you don't have much time with a movie, but they needed to give the impression how the apes took control over hundreds of years. i thought also when they showed the apes getting trained in conquest, they could have been smarter, then have these world wide bombs going off, destoying a large part of the world, and now apes are on more of an equal level with humans, and gradually take over.  now there's a movie.  the producers just rushed conquest ,and battle.  now two examples of movies that have some good new world footage that could have been great along with a great story, are the terminator movies when they show us clips of the war with machines, and even though this movie bombed the arial and land scenes were great in battlefield earth. can you imagine having those shots with apes ,and humans running around and battling. we could even use the battle shots from lord of the rings.

              zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:

              It makes it more complete.  I wish that they would do the same to BENEATH and to ESCAPE.
               
              Zach  
               
              -------Original Message----- --
               
              Date: 02/01/07 16:13:47
              Subject: [POTA] battle
               
              hello, can anyone tell me if the new expanded version of battle is in
              the movie, or is it shown seperate as deleted footage, and what is the
              total time of the new footage used. thanks p.s. if the new footage
              is in, does it make it a much different movie ?

               


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              Group: pota Message: 40616 From: Rich Handley Date: 2/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Digest Number 2909
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              >Posted by: "thadesdarlinghuman" thadesdarlinghuman@...
              >thadesdarlinghuman
              >Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 2:02 am ((PST))
              > Surly I meant no ill will from my comments and am sorry if I
              >offended..
              > It's not like anyone really gives a crap what I have to say here
              >anyway...
              > Rebuttals have been ignored and I have tried to gain some little
              >piece of respect but you all have shot me down many times...
              > It's as if you all hold all the answers in your palms and you
              >DON'T CARE what anyone, from outside of your clique, has to say or
              >feels...
              > I'm sorry if I offended anyone or am doing so right now, but this
              >is the cliquiest group I've dealt with in a lllooonnnggg time...


              I rest my case.
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              Group: pota Message: 40617 From: James Date: 2/3/2007
              Subject: Re: battle
              .html
              There was a more violent cut of Conquest that was tested. At the end
              the Apes kill Breck and Caesar's speech ends at "and that day is upon
              you now".

              After the test cut was shown in some theaters, they went back cut some
              of the more violent scenes, including Breck's death and added the
              second part of Caesar's speech.


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
              >
              > Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with the
              member
              > that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put the
              deleted
              > scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box set
              comes
              > out. I wouldn't mind seeing those myself.
              >
              >
              >
              > Zach
              >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 40618 From: James Date: 2/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
              .html
              Cool! Here's something I found on YouTube:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnI706uGiDA


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@...> wrote:
              >
              > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjVtJzTSuPw
              >
              > ~ Jon :-)
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 40619 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 2/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
              .html
              That should be on shown either on Saturday Night Live or Mad TV.

              Donna


              >From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
              >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              >Subject: [POTA] Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
              >Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:07:17 -0000
              >
              >Cool! Here's something I found on YouTube:
              >
              >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnI706uGiDA
              >
              >
              >--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@...> wrote:
              > >
              > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjVtJzTSuPw
              > >
              > > ~ Jon :-)
              > >
              >
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 40620 From: Glen Date: 2/3/2007
              Subject: Re: Comment retracted...
              .html
              Honestly, as one of the Moderators here (and consequently, having to
              make sure I read all posts), I have to say that the problem seems to
              be that you take everyone's disagreements with your views as personal
              attacks...And I don't see them as that way at all...
              Everyone puts forth their personal opinions on these various
              subjects, but for the majority, I have to say, they seem to be able
              to take someone's not "championing" their cause as just a matter of
              course...
              I'd say, mellow a little...You are a staunch fan of POTA01 -- most of
              us didn't like it...You are obviously a fan of Thade's,
              the "villian" -- most fans of POTA01 didn't care for him as
              much...Naturally, your views will end up in the minority...

              G

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "thadesdarlinghuman"
              <thadesdarlinghuman@...> wrote:
              >
              > Surly I meant no ill will from my comments and am sorry if I
              > offended..
              > It's not like anyone really gives a crap what I have to say
              here
              > anyway...
              > Rebuttals have been ignored and I have tried to gain some
              little
              > piece of respect but you all have shot me down many times...
              > It's as if you all hold all the answers in your palms and you
              > DON'T CARE what anyone, from outside of your clique, has to say or
              > feels...
              > I'm sorry if I offended anyone or am doing so right now, but
              this
              > is the cliquiest group I've dealt with in a lllooonnnggg time...
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 40621 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/3/2007
              Subject: Re: battle
              .html
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                Still, don't you think that they would put that on the disc...like "alternate ending" or some such term?
                 
                Zach   
                 
                -------Original Message-------
                 
                From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Date: 02/03/07 11:20:20
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [POTA] Re: battle
                 

                There was a more violent cut of Conquest that was tested. At the end
                the Apes kill Breck and Caesar's speech ends at "and that day is upon
                you now".

                After the test cut was shown in some theaters, they went back cut some
                of the more violent scenes, including Breck's death and added the
                second part of Caesar's speech.

                --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote:
                >
                > Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with the
                member
                > that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put the
                deleted
                > scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box set
                comes
                > out. I wouldn't mind seeing those myself.
                >
                >
                >
                > Zach
                >
                >

                 

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                Group: pota Message: 40622 From: Chris Lawless Date: 2/3/2007
                Subject: POTA on The History Channel
                .html
                In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The History
                Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.

                http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076


                Chris L.
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                Group: pota Message: 40623 From: simianarms Date: 2/3/2007
                Subject: Re: Conquest Posters?
                .html
                Is that the insert or one sheet? Yes that is the one I was refering
                to. I have the one sheet version of that poster and I liked it a lot
                more than the other. Personal preference :-) I just remembered people
                always telling me that the other was harder to get. Just curious
                because I didn't see it in the posters section. I should upload a
                photo for all to see.

                Mark


                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                >
                >
                > Is this the one you're refering to?
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "simianarms" <markalyce@> wrote:
                > >
                > > When I first started collecting Apes stuff Years ago I started
                with
                > the
                > > film posters. Over the years people/collectors have told me that
                the
                > B-
                > > style poster for Conquest was much harder to poster to find than
                the A
                > > style. I see the B Style all the time on EBay. Does anyone here
                own
                > the
                > > A Style one sheet? It looks like the British one sheet poster. The
                > > orange one with the apes running and the two apes holding Gov.
                Breck.
                > > Just Curious.
                > >
                >
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                Group: pota Message: 40624 From: Glen Date: 2/3/2007
                Subject: Re: Bloopers on the POTA on The History Channel
                .html
                I'm watching it right now, and I noticed a blooper that never occured
                to me before, proof that Tayjor was not a wild human from their world --
                his teeth-fillings are evident everytime he grimaces...

                G

                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
                >
                > In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The
                History
                > Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.
                >
                > http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076
                >
                >
                > Chris L.
                >
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                Group: pota Message: 40625 From: gleaner63 Date: 2/4/2007
                Subject: Dr. Zaius
                .html
                ...the original Planet of the Apes is possibly my favorite movie of
                all, so here's my question. "What did Dr. Zaius know and when did he
                know it?". When he says; "..I've always known about man...",
                and "...all my life I've awaited your coming and dreaded it...", what
                exactly is he acknowledging? Was he really aware that Taylor's claim
                about his identity was true? Also, how did he know it?

                -Clarence
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                Group: pota Message: 40626 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/4/2007
                Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
                .html
                .html.htmlIn a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:


                In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The History
                Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.

                http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076

                Chris L.




                That was a historic TV showing of the movie!  Never before has the film been so interrupted by commercials!  I've never seen anything like it.  Three minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, then another commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, and so it went for two and a half hours.  Incredible -- and pan & scan to boot!

                No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.

                -- Rory
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                Group: pota Message: 40627 From: Jonathan Date: 2/4/2007
                Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
                .html
                LOL- I love MAD Tv :-)

                ~ Jon

                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                >
                > Cool! Here's something I found on YouTube:
                >
                > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnI706uGiDA
                >
                >
                > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@> wrote:
                > >
                > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjVtJzTSuPw
                > >
                > > ~ Jon :-)
                > >
                >
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                Group: pota Message: 40628 From: Shane Miller Date: 2/4/2007
                Subject: Hello
                .html
                I am a new member and I think that this group is just perfect! I am
                certain that many of you have read the recent limited run comic series
                that fills in the time between "Conquest" and "Battle", I have read it
                multiple times and loved it. I think that it would be cool if there
                could be some more of the 'tweener' tales told. Conquest is my
                favorite ape movie and I agree that I think it would be awesome to see
                the 'R' rated cut, however, I would not want to see any scene that has
                Governor Breck killed. He is one of my favorite film characters ever.
                Keep up the good work on this group and in the words of his excellency
                the Governor...

                "...and the world will belong to a planet of apes!!!"
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                Group: pota Message: 40629 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/4/2007
                Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
                .html
                Attachments :
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                  You can say that again, Rory!  I just absolutely HATE that when a classic such as APES has to be constantly interrupted with commercials we've seen 1000 times or more.  Sheesh!
                   
                  Zach   
                   
                  -------Original Message-------
                   
                  From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: 02/04/07 07:32:02
                  To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [POTA] Re: POTA on The History Channel
                   

                  In a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@juno. com writes:


                  In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The History
                  Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.

                  http://www.history. com/shows. do?action= detail&episodeId=211076

                  Chris L.




                  That was a historic TV showing of the movie!  Never before has the film been so interrupted by commercials!  I've never seen anything like it.  Three minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, then another commercial break, then three more minutes of the movie, and so it went for two and a half hours.  Incredible -- and pan & scan to boot!

                  No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.

                  -- Rory

                   

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                  Group: pota Message: 40630 From: rackworthykomix Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
                  .html
                  Does anyone know WHY exactly POTA was on the History Channel?
                  Normally, when they show movies, it's stuff like "Tora, Tora, Tora"
                  or "Patton", you know, Historical stuff. As POTA hasn't happened
                  yet...? Or does it have something to do with the Oscars?

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > You can say that again, Rory! I just absolutely HATE that when a
                  classic
                  > such as APES has to be constantly interrupted with commercials
                  we've seen
                  > 1000 times or more. Sheesh!
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Zach
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > -------Original Message-------
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  >
                  > Date: 02/04/07 07:32:02
                  >
                  > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  >
                  > Subject: [POTA] Re: POTA on The History Channel
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > In a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
                  lawford42@juno
                  > com writes:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on The
                  History
                  >
                  > Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Chris L.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > That was a historic TV showing of the movie! Never before has the
                  film been
                  > so interrupted by commercials! I've never seen anything like it.
                  Three
                  > minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more
                  minutes of
                  > the movie, then another commercial break, then three more minutes
                  of the
                  > movie, and so it went for two and a half hours. Incredible -- and
                  pan &
                  > scan to boot!
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > -- Rory
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40631 From: Glen Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Re: Hello
                  .html
                  Welcome, Shane, glad to have you onboard...Chexk out out features,
                  I'm sure you'll enjoy what the membership has posted...

                  G

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Shane Miller" <masonverger12@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I am a new member and I think that this group is just perfect! I
                  am
                  > certain that many of you have read the recent limited run comic
                  series
                  > that fills in the time between "Conquest" and "Battle", I have read
                  it
                  > multiple times and loved it. I think that it would be cool if
                  there
                  > could be some more of the 'tweener' tales told. Conquest is my
                  > favorite ape movie and I agree that I think it would be awesome to
                  see
                  > the 'R' rated cut, however, I would not want to see any scene that
                  has
                  > Governor Breck killed. He is one of my favorite film characters
                  ever.
                  > Keep up the good work on this group and in the words of his
                  excellency
                  > the Governor...
                  >
                  > "...and the world will belong to a planet of apes!!!"
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40632 From: Rob Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  Gotta say honestly that this was a bad comic. It played far too fast
                  and loose with ideas better thought out in the films, the art was
                  subpar and the story itself barely better than the Jason and
                  Alexander stories of the old Marvel Comic (Thanks Hunter for the site
                  since my issues are long gone).

                  Some of the problems were;
                  Why San Diego? While the first and second film clearly state that the
                  area of Ape City is the Tri-State area by showing Manhattan, how did
                  they decide that the city, only shown as NORTH AMERICA 1991, was San
                  Diego? It could have been a futuristic NY.

                  Apes who can fly military jets? This was hardly believable. If the
                  common man was as afraid as Breck, would they use Apes to be in the
                  military when they were slaves? I think not.

                  The whole Church Door idea rang false. They could have done a much
                  better job. I think there are people right on this site, who could
                  write a better comic script than the people behind Revolution. I'm
                  not damning them entirely. It was nice seeing a new Apes comic, but
                  some more effort to be in line with the movies would have been
                  better, rather than the (gag) Star Trek Enterprise route they took.
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                  Group: pota Message: 40633 From: Rob Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  .html
                  It seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but why not?
                  From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
                  channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else. Why
                  did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
                  handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
                  World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
                  entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
                  dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is blown
                  before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching again and
                  again and again.
                  And it always will be.
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                  Group: pota Message: 40634 From: drhasslein Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  I kind of liked the idea. Reminded me of Battlefield Earth, which I
                  thought if reworked, could have been a cool planet of the apes tale...

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <frohike60@...> wrote:
                  Apes who can fly military jets?
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                  Group: pota Message: 40635 From: drhasslein Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Re: battle
                  .html
                  My guess is they can't find the print, or it would have appeared on
                  the Fox Movie Channel by now...


                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Still, don't you think that they would put that on the disc...like
                  > alternate ending" or some such term?
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Zach
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > -------Original Message-------
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  >
                  > Date: 02/03/07 11:20:20
                  >
                  > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  >
                  > Subject: [POTA] Re: battle
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > There was a more violent cut of Conquest that was tested. At the
                  end
                  >
                  > the Apes kill Breck and Caesar's speech ends at "and that day is
                  upon
                  >
                  > you now".
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > After the test cut was shown in some theaters, they went back cut
                  some
                  >
                  > of the more violent scenes, including Breck's death and added the
                  >
                  > second part of Caesar's speech.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@> wrote:
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  > > Yes, I've heard that CONQUEST also was edited down, I agree with
                  the
                  >
                  > member
                  >
                  > > that said some time back that it would be great if FOX would put
                  the
                  >
                  > deleted
                  >
                  > > scenes in a special section on the DVD, maybe when the next box
                  set
                  >
                  > comes
                  >
                  > > out. I wouldn't mind seeing those myself.
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  > > Zach
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  > >
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40636 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  .html
                  The only reason that I can think of why they showed Planet of the Apes
                  on the History channel is because they had two documentaries on
                  prehistoric apes. But someone answer this question for me. What was
                  that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when he was
                  tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.

                  Kevin

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: frohike60@...
                  To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
                  Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel

                  It seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but
                  why not?
                  From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
                  channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else. Why
                  did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
                  handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
                  World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
                  entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
                  dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is blown
                  before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching again
                  and
                  again and again.
                  And it always will be.






                  ____________
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                  Group: pota Message: 40637 From: Glen Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  .html
                  OMG, a guy after my own heart!..."THEM!" "Forbidden Planet", "The Thing
                  from Another World", "The Day the Earth Stood Still"...Those are some
                  of my most favorite movies!...Here's one for you -- "Dinosaurus!"...I
                  luv this movie, partly because of nostalgia...It's the first movie I
                  remember seeing at the show...I was four or five yers old!...

                  "Ah, memories! We will enjoy them!"...Coneheads...=)

                  G

                  G--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <frohike60@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > It seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but why not?
                  > From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
                  > channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else.
                  Why
                  > did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
                  > handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
                  > World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
                  > entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
                  > dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is blown
                  > before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching again
                  and
                  > again and again.
                  > And it always will be.
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40638 From: Glen Date: 2/4/2007
                  Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  .html
                  His fallen dignity?...

                  G

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
                  >
                  > The only reason that I can think of why they showed Planet of the
                  Apes
                  > on the History channel is because they had two documentaries on
                  > prehistoric apes. But someone answer this question for me. What was
                  > that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when he
                  was
                  > tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.
                  >
                  > Kevin
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: frohike60@...
                  > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
                  > Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  >
                  > It seems an interesting choice for the History channel,
                  but
                  > why not?
                  > From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
                  > channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else.
                  Why
                  > did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
                  > handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
                  > World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
                  > entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
                  > dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is
                  blown
                  > before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching
                  again
                  > and
                  > again and again.
                  > And it always will be.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  __________
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                  Group: pota Message: 40639 From: Glen Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  .html
                  In the far left background (over Zaius' right shoulder), you can see,
                  when Taylor is tying him up, a brown and tan basket...
                  To the left of the screen (on Zaius' right side), under the wooden
                  scaffolding, are three pieces of charcoal gray pottery...

                  G

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
                  >
                  > What was
                  > that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when he
                  was
                  > tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.
                  >
                  > Kevin
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: frohike60@...
                  > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
                  > Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  >
                  > It seems an interesting choice for the History channel,
                  but
                  > why not?
                  > From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on the
                  > channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something else.
                  Why
                  > did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a select
                  > handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from Another
                  > World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly, timeless
                  > entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
                  > dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is
                  blown
                  > before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching
                  again
                  > and
                  > again and again.
                  > And it always will be.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  __________
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                  Group: pota Message: 40640 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  I think the Revolution comic was excellent, but, being both a comics
                  and an Apes fan, maybe I can't be objective.In pure comics terms, the
                  run was refreshingly different, thought provoking( hence this
                  debate!) and free of the big boobed women and muscle bound men that
                  dominate most other 'indie' comics.In Apes terms, I think the comics
                  revived and added to the mythos--as this was an official product, if
                  they say it was San Diego, that's where it is, in my opinion--if we,
                  as fans, have to work a bit harder then to fill in the gaps then
                  that's part of the fun, foe me.And if you diss Jason and Alexander
                  again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls.
                  >
                  > Gotta say honestly that this was a bad comic. It played far too
                  fast
                  > and loose with ideas better thought out in the films, the art was
                  > subpar and the story itself barely better than the Jason and
                  > Alexander stories of the old Marvel Comic (Thanks Hunter for the
                  site
                  > since my issues are long gone).
                  >
                  > Some of the problems were;
                  > Why San Diego? While the first and second film clearly state that
                  the
                  > area of Ape City is the Tri-State area by showing Manhattan, how
                  did
                  > they decide that the city, only shown as NORTH AMERICA 1991, was
                  San
                  > Diego? It could have been a futuristic NY.
                  >
                  > Apes who can fly military jets? This was hardly believable. If the
                  > common man was as afraid as Breck, would they use Apes to be in the
                  > military when they were slaves? I think not.
                  >
                  > The whole Church Door idea rang false. They could have done a much
                  > better job. I think there are people right on this site, who could
                  > write a better comic script than the people behind Revolution. I'm
                  > not damning them entirely. It was nice seeing a new Apes comic, but
                  > some more effort to be in line with the movies would have been
                  > better, rather than the (gag) Star Trek Enterprise route they took.
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40641 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Up Above the World so High
                  .html
                  Does anybody know where the final episode of the Apes tv series was
                  filmed? It's coastal and, if you look carefully during some of the
                  glider scenes, you can just make out some modern buildings. I'd love to
                  know what it all looks like today.I also wonder was Leuric going to be
                  a new ongoing character---the more humans you have, the less Apes you
                  need, therefore trimming the budget? He could have been really
                  interesting. John, Scrolls.
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                  Group: pota Message: 40642 From: James Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  He was great on Seinfeld!

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
                  > And if you diss Jason Alexander
                  > again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls.
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40643 From: brendan486 Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  Excellent James.8-)
                  Brendan.


                  -- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > He was great on Seinfeld!
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
                  > > And if you diss Jason Alexander
                  > > again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls.
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40644 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Dr. Zaius
                  .html
                  I'm not a 'POTA' expert, but I can only guess that having studied,
                  ruled & lived by the teachings of the Sacred Roles (written by THE
                  LAWGIVER), Zaius would've been familiar with many things about the
                  ancient world. How man used to cage animals, not the other way around.
                  How they used to have the knowledge of many things, but destroyed it
                  all.
                  Dr. Zaius might've been waiting for the eventual re-emergence of a
                  remote (lone tribe) of civilized men. Mutants as he called them. Not
                  the underground NYC mutants, but freaks of nature who could actually
                  talk, and do things most mute, wild humans couldn't do.

                  -RAUL

                  PS. I also seem to recall, in the "POTA" TV series, the other Dr.
                  Zaius onced mentioned that he'd come across (or heard) of other
                  Astronauts (he might've called them something else) who'd come before
                  BURKE & VIRDON. There's no mention what ever became of them though.

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gleaner63" <gleaner63@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > ...the original Planet of the Apes is possibly my favorite movie of
                  > all, so here's my question. "What did Dr. Zaius know and when did
                  he
                  > know it?". When he says; "..I've always known about man...",
                  > and "...all my life I've awaited your coming and dreaded it...",
                  what
                  > exactly is he acknowledging? Was he really aware that Taylor's
                  claim
                  > about his identity was true? Also, how did he know it?
                  >
                  > -Clarence
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40645 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  .html
                  The other day, after watching "POTA," I was thinking ... the cave in
                  which CORNELLIUS and colleagues where digging in the Forbidden
                  Zone, 'Could it have been the ancient remains of a Skycrapper?' If
                  not Manhattan - then one of its surrounding Borroughs: Brooklyn,
                  Queens, The Bronx, Long Island, Yonkers, Coney Island.

                  RAUL

                  PS. And for the record, where do y'all theorize or care to guess, is
                  the approx. final, resting place of the severed top half of the
                  Statue of Liberty? Is it Jersey, Brooklyn, Queens or Lower Manhattan?


                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > In the far left background (over Zaius' right shoulder), you can
                  see,
                  > when Taylor is tying him up, a brown and tan basket...
                  > To the left of the screen (on Zaius' right side), under the wooden
                  > scaffolding, are three pieces of charcoal gray pottery...
                  >
                  > G
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@ wrote:
                  > >
                  > > What was
                  > > that thing that was sticking out the ground next to Zaius when
                  he
                  > was
                  > > tied up by Taylor, it almost look like something from a missile.
                  > >
                  > > Kevin
                  > >
                  > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > From: frohike60@
                  > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:28 PM
                  > > Subject: [POTA] Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  > >
                  > > It seems an interesting choice for the History
                  channel,
                  > but
                  > > why not?
                  > > From the programmers pov, show it and perhaps someone stays on
                  the
                  > > channel to watch something else, or sees an ad for something
                  else.
                  > Why
                  > > did I watch it, since I have it on DVD? Because along with a
                  select
                  > > handful of movies; THEM! Forbidden Planet, The Thing from
                  Another
                  > > World, The Day the Earth Stood Still; it's an endlessly,
                  timeless
                  > > entertaining film. So what if I can sit there and repeat all the
                  > > dialouge along with the characters, or notice that the hatch is
                  > blown
                  > > before it's blown. It's just a classic that is worth watching
                  > again
                  > > and
                  > > again and again.
                  > > And it always will be.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                  _________
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                  Group: pota Message: 40646 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
                  .html
                  Thank you 'JamesA1102' for posting that clip from MAD TV.

                  Here's a similar 'POTA' parody, from "THE SIMPSONS:"

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxkNbyqxD8

                  I think it's the Broadway Musical version of "POTA."

                  -RAUL

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Cool! Here's something I found on YouTube:
                  >
                  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnI706uGiDA
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <phil_harmonik2005@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjVtJzTSuPw
                  > >
                  > > ~ Jon :-)
                  > >
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40647 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
                  .html
                  I think one of the reasons they might've shown "POTA" on the HISTORY
                  CHANNEL was as part of this "REEL TO REAL" movie presentation.
                  Sometimes during comercial breaks, they may cut to this (brief)
                  interview/commentary from the stars or directors. Or they may
                  present TRIVIA (similar to 'AMC-DVD on TV)'about the film.

                  Other times, "REEL to REAL" compares (talks about) real-life events
                  which parallel the movie (being shown). Or the events in which it
                  might've been been based on. Not sure where "POTA" fits into all
                  that, unless you bring in events from the 1960's, which may parallel
                  events subliminally addressed in the first 2 "POTA" movies.

                  -RAUL


                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rackworthykomix" <rackworthykomix@...>
                  wrote:
                  >
                  > Does anyone know WHY exactly POTA was on the History Channel?
                  > Normally, when they show movies, it's stuff like "Tora, Tora,
                  Tora"
                  > or "Patton", you know, Historical stuff. As POTA hasn't happened
                  > yet...? Or does it have something to do with the Oscars?
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > You can say that again, Rory! I just absolutely HATE that when
                  a
                  > classic
                  > > such as APES has to be constantly interrupted with commercials
                  > we've seen
                  > > 1000 times or more. Sheesh!
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Zach
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > -------Original Message-------
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > From: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  > >
                  > > Date: 02/04/07 07:32:02
                  > >
                  > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  > >
                  > > Subject: [POTA] Re: POTA on The History Channel
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > In a message dated 2/3/2007 8:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
                  > lawford42@juno
                  > > com writes:
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > In case anyone is interested, the original POTA is showing on
                  The
                  > History
                  > >
                  > > Channel right now, plus it's on later in the week as well.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=211076
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Chris L.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > That was a historic TV showing of the movie! Never before has
                  the
                  > film been
                  > > so interrupted by commercials! I've never seen anything like
                  it.
                  > Three
                  > > minutes of the movie, then a commercial break, then three more
                  > minutes of
                  > > the movie, then another commercial break, then three more
                  minutes
                  > of the
                  > > movie, and so it went for two and a half hours. Incredible --
                  and
                  > pan &
                  > > scan to boot!
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > No way to watch APES, as far as I'm concerned.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > -- Rory
                  > >
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40648 From: p3murds@aol.com Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
                  .html
                  .html
                  The POTA movie shows a mirror image of ourselves with racism, and civil rights issues,... which was (and still is) a big issue at the time.  I think that since it is black history month, maybe they wanted to show it.  Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that they showed an Ape movie in honor, and in celebration of Black History Month, but the movie does send a strong message that many even today don't get!
                   
                  Or we can accept the fact  that is a great movie in our History,...therefore, it was shown on the "History Channel"?
                   
                  ~Paul
                  <.html
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40649 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
                  .html
                  .html
                  In a message dated 2/5/2007 12:27:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, re_zuleta@... writes:
                  The other day, after watching "POTA," I was thinking ... the cave in
                  which CORNELLIUS and colleagues where digging in the Forbidden
                  Zone, 'Could it have been the ancient remains of a Skycrapper?' If
                  not Manhattan - then one of its surrounding Borroughs: Brooklyn,
                  Queens, The Bronx, Long Island, Yonkers, Coney Island.

                  RAUL
                  When I was young and first saw the film I thought that, too but after scrutinizing the cave all these years there's nothing to indicate it was a man-made structure of any kind. Those artifacts could have been tossed into the cave by atomic winds over a thousand years before.
                  Bruce
                  <.html
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40650 From: R E Zuleta Date: 2/5/2007
                  Subject: Re: Up Above the World so High
                  .html
                  Or for the matter ... what was the plot, or (hopeful) ending for
                  the "POTA" TV series. Were they trying to somehow find away to time
                  travel back to present day earth. To a time before WWIII.

                  Or did they give in to living out the remaining of their days
                  forever fleeing from Gen. Urko his Gorilla Army.

                  -RAUL

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Does anybody know where the final episode of the Apes tv series
                  was
                  > filmed? It's coastal and, if you look carefully during some of the
                  > glider scenes, you can just make out some modern buildings. I'd
                  love to
                  > know what it all looks like today.I also wonder was Leuric going
                  to be
                  > a new ongoing character---the more humans you have, the less Apes
                  you
                  > need, therefore trimming the budget? He could have been really
                  > interesting. John, Scrolls.
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40651 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  James and John, the new Jerry and John!!! Apart from the fact that we
                  talk to one another, obviously.John, Scrolls.PS, WHO the hell is Jason
                  Alexander?
                  >
                  > He was great on Seinfeld!
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
                  > > And if you diss Jason Alexander
                  > > again I will hunt you down like a dog. John, Scrolls.
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40652 From: James Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html

                  Visit the Yahoo Home page and you'll figure it out.

                  http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/


                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > James and John, the new Jerry and John!!! Apart from the fact that we
                  > talk to one another, obviously.John, Scrolls.PS, WHO the hell is Jason
                  > Alexander?
                  > >

                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40653 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  Wow! Helooks a lot like me! Fat, bald, glasses but with that certain
                  something the girls can't resist.Is he the guy who played Malcolm at
                  chess in Malcolm in the Middle---I always confuse this guy with Jean
                  Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation Street.And I meant
                  to say 'James and John are the new Jerry and Dean' but, not having had
                  a coffee at that point, totally ballsed it up.Which just goes to show
                  that Americans are indeed funnier than us and have a sense of
                  humour.Did I mention I also get delusional without coffee? John,
                  Scrolls.
                  >
                  >
                  > Visit the Yahoo Home page and you'll figure it out.
                  >
                  > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
                  > <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/>
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > James and John, the new Jerry and John!!! Apart from the fact that
                  we
                  > > talk to one another, obviously.John, Scrolls.PS, WHO the hell is
                  Jason
                  > > Alexander?
                  > > >
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40654 From: James Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  Of course we have a sense of humor. Look at our last two Presidents. LOL

                  And yes he was in an episode of Malcolm in the Middle. I guess you're
                  not a Seinfeld fan.

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Wow! Helooks a lot like me! Fat, bald, glasses but with that certain
                  > something the girls can't resist.Is he the guy who played Malcolm at
                  > chess in Malcolm in the Middle---I always confuse this guy with Jean
                  > Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation Street.And I
                  meant
                  > to say 'James and John are the new Jerry and Dean' but, not having
                  had
                  > a coffee at that point, totally ballsed it up.Which just goes to show
                  > that Americans are indeed funnier than us and have a sense of
                  > humour.Did I mention I also get delusional without coffee? John,
                  > Scrolls.
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40655 From: Mark Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Capt. Maddox
                  .html
                  Did Tod Andrews (Capt. 'Skipper' Maddox) also play a mutant in BENEATH? Look at one the
                  first mutants that guide Brent away from the interrogation. Maybe this is well known and I
                  just never realized it.
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40656 From: Mark Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
                  .html
                  Next you'll be telling us you confused Dr. Zaius with Pat from Eastenders. I couldn't resist
                  man.

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
                  I always confuse this guy with Jean Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation
                  Street.
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40657 From: Tim Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: I'm back!
                  .html
                  Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du Soliel's "Beatles" show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
                  Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid trip!
                  Did I miss anything here?
                  Tim
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40658 From: James Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: I'm back!
                  .html
                  Welcome back Rich. Hope you won some money.


                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du Soliel's "Beatles"
                  show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
                  > Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid trip!
                  > Did I miss anything here?
                  > Tim
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40659 From: Glen Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: I'm back!
                  .html
                  Welcome back, Tim...What did you get for me in Vegas?...

                  G

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du Soliel's "Beatles"
                  show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
                  > Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid trip!
                  > Did I miss anything here?
                  > Tim
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: pota Message: 40660 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Re: I'm back!
                  .html
                  Nothing I'm afraid.....in fact I left a few bucks
                  there,,,....=(

                  Glad the Colts won tho!!



                  --- Glen <HotScheetz@...> wrote:

                  > Welcome back, Tim...What did you get for me in
                  > Vegas?...
                  >
                  > G
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...>
                  > wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du
                  > Soliel's "Beatles"
                  > show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
                  > > Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid
                  > trip!
                  > > Did I miss anything here?
                  > > Tim
                  > >
                  >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40661 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/6/2007
                  Subject: Marvel UK Issue 121
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                  Issue 121 is now available to download from Hunter's site. This issue contains 7 more pages each from the Battle and Beneath adaptations, plus a letter column.
                   
                  Also newly available on Hunter's site is an article from the April 1968 issue of Screenguide Magazine. Courtest of John Roche and Dave Ballard.
                   
                   
                  Thanks,
                  Greg
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                  Group: pota Message: 40662 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes on the History Channel
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                  In a message dated 2/4/2007 12:01:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, frohike60@... writes:
                  It seems an interesting choice for the History channel, but why not?
                   
                  Because it completely defeats the purpose of
                  separating channels into genres.  You may as
                  well have sports commentary on The Weather Channel.
                  I still don't know how some movies get on AMC.
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                  Group: pota Message: 40663 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
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                  In a message dated 2/4/2007 9:32:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, rackworthykomix@... writes:
                  Does anyone know WHY exactly POTA was on the History Channel?
                  Normally, when they show movies, it's stuff like "Tora, Tora, Tora"
                  or "Patton", you know, Historical stuff. As POTA hasn't happened
                  yet...?
                   
                  Must be sweeps week.
                   
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                  Group: pota Message: 40664 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
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                  In a message dated 2/4/2007 8:01:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, phil_harmonik2005@... writes:
                  LOL- I love MAD Tv :-)
                   
                  Did anyone see the short lived Roseanne
                  Variety Show?  They had Zira as a radio psychologist.
                   
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                  Group: pota Message: 40665 From: Glen Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: I'm back!
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                  Darn!...Same as last time, eh?...=)

                  G

                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Nothing I'm afraid.....in fact I left a few bucks
                  > there,,,....=(
                  >
                  > Glad the Colts won tho!!
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --- Glen <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > > Welcome back, Tim...What did you get for me in
                  > > Vegas?...
                  > >
                  > > G
                  > >
                  > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@>
                  > > wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du
                  > > Soliel's "Beatles"
                  > > show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
                  > > > Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid
                  > > trip!
                  > > > Did I miss anything here?
                  > > > Tim
                  > > >
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                  Group: pota Message: 40666 From: drhasslein Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Mike Ploog
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                  Mike Ploog is appearing February 11 at the Los Angeles comic book and
                  science fiction convention.
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                  Group: pota Message: 40667 From: Jonathan Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: Not 'Exactly' POTA, But...
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                  --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
                  >
                  > > phil_harmonik2005@... writes:
                  > >
                  > > LOL- I love MAD Tv :-)
                  >
                  > Did anyone see the short lived Roseanne Variety
                  > Show? They had Zira as a radio psychologist.

                  I wonder if YouTube has a video clip of that?

                  Otherwise... Roseanne has always made me puke
                  up my guts :-/

                  ~ Jon
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                  Group: pota Message: 40668 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: POTA on The History Channel
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                  In a message dated 2/5/2007 12:33:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, p3murds@... writes:
                  The POTA movie shows a mirror image of ourselves with racism, and civil rights issues,... which was (and still is) a big issue at the time.  I think that since it is black history month, maybe they wanted to show it.  Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that they showed an Ape movie in honor, and in celebration of Black History Month, but the movie does send a strong message that many even today don't get!
                   
                  Isn't that the same thing the Walmart website got in trouble for?
                   
                   
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                  Group: pota Message: 40669 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: Mike Ploog
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                  Anybody who can should go see Mike Ploog---he's just about the nicest
                  guy this side of Greg Plonowski and if he's doing sketches, just get in
                  the queue for a piece of comic art magic.John, Scrolls.
                  >
                  > Mike Ploog is appearing February 11 at the Los Angeles comic book and
                  > science fiction convention.
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                  Group: pota Message: 40670 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/7/2007
                  Subject: Re: Revolution On the Planet of the Apes
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                  No, not a big Seinfeld fan---through ignorance on my part really,
                  because those chatshow things lose everything in translation over
                  here.One baseball reference and we're all totally flummoxed.As for
                  your last two Presidents, I, personally, have a high regard for Bill
                  Clinton.I know he was a naughty boy in the Oval Office( but hell, I'd
                  have found it tough to say 'No, I'd prefer you to do some filing
                  instead') but I think there was a core of moral integrity and world
                  vision with the man.I like him.His successor, however, is no laughing
                  matter.John, Scrolls.
                  >
                  > Of course we have a sense of humor. Look at our last two
                  Presidents. LOL
                  >
                  > And yes he was in an episode of Malcolm in the Middle. I guess
                  you're
                  > not a Seinfeld fan.
                  >
                  > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Wow! Helooks a lot like me! Fat, bald, glasses but with that
                  certain
                  > > something the girls can't resist.Is he the guy who played Malcolm
                  at
                  > > chess in Malcolm in the Middle---I always confuse this guy with
                  Jean
                  > > Alexander who used to play Hilda Ogden in Coronation Street.And I
                  > meant
                  > > to say 'James and John are the new Jerry and Dean' but, not
                  having
                  > had
                  > > a coffee at that point, totally ballsed it up.Which just goes to
                  show
                  > > that Americans are indeed funnier than us and have a sense of
                  > > humour.Did I mention I also get delusional without coffee? John,
                  > > Scrolls.
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