|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41944 |
From: llevik1 |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41945 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Brokensea Audio Drama |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41946 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41947 |
From: Leo Seddon |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Another Documentary? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41948 |
From: Mark |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41949 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Target Repackage |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41950 |
From: Mark |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Target Repackage |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41951 |
From: Glen |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Target Repackage |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41952 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Television Series dvd extras |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41953 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41954 |
From: Randy |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41955 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41956 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41957 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41958 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: POTA (2001) - TRIVIA |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41959 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41960 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41961 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41962 |
From: kidro85@aol.com |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41963 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3627 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41964 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Mighty World of Marvel issue 240 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41965 |
From: 0 |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41966 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41967 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41968 |
From: Randy |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41969 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41970 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41971 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41972 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41973 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Looking for some POTA-TREK Cross-over Material |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41974 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41975 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41976 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Mighty World of Marvel issue 240 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41977 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41978 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41979 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41980 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41981 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41982 |
From: corneliusrobinson77 |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Battle uncut on region 2? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41983 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: talking apes! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41984 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41985 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: talking apes! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41986 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41987 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41988 |
From: corneliusrobinson77 |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41989 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41990 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41991 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: talking apes! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41992 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41993 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41994 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41995 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41996 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41997 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41998 |
From: James |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41999 |
From: 0 |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: The Future is NOW! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42000 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 5/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42001 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42002 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42003 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42004 |
From: Mark |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: POTA at Memorabilia |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42005 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42006 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42007 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42008 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42009 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42010 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42011 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Yahoo glitch... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42012 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ultimate Collection ape head |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42013 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42014 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42015 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42016 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42017 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42018 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42019 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42020 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42021 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42022 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42023 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42024 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Blu-Ray Review |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42025 |
From: Mark |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42026 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Character Bio's |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42027 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42028 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42029 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Mighty World of Marvel issue 241 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42030 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42031 |
From: James |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42032 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: L.A.Fire |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42033 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42034 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: L.A.Fire |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42035 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42036 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42037 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42038 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#2. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42039 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#2. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42040 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#3. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42041 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#2. |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42042 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#4 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42043 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41944 |
From: llevik1 |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "kmarshal73" <kmarshal73@...> wrote:
>
> I heard from my brother yesterday that "they" are thinking about
making
> a sequel to POTA (The one with Mark Walberg in it). Has anyone heard
> anything about this? I looked on the 'net some and haven't been able
to
> find anything about this. Does anyone know of any sites with
> news/info/rumors on this? BTW, I don't know who "they" are; he wasn't
> very specific on that.
>
At the recent NEC Memorabilia Show i spoke to Linda Harrison about the
remake and her thoughts on it. She said that "they are going to make
another one as the remake made lots of money ! " <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41945 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Brokensea Audio Drama |
.htmlThank you for the kind words Ryan! Mainly just the cost of the server to hold the files and such. The rest is just having fun! ;-)
On 4/28/07, Ryan <raven33781_99@...> wrote:
How did this project get started, and was it costly and difficult to put it all together?? It's great to see something like this happen, especially with all the Star Wars audio dramas, and so little on POTA. Thanks, Hunter, Bill for the the info about the site!
By the way, my name is Ryan from http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/theplanetoftheapeszone/
Feel free to advertise about this group and the POTA audio drama... The group is not as active as this one, but for 6 years it still gets people coming in.
Ryan
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote: >
> It's free for download at www.brokensea.com in mp3 format. It's a retelling > based on Boulle's book and the screenplay from the film with some new bits > thrown in that weren't gone into in the movies. It's in chapter form.
> Thank you for the interest! > > > On 4/26/07, Ryan raven33781_99@... wrote: > > > > *I know about the (BBC 5-part radio drama), and (Values 7-part fan
> > fiction audio drama). What is (Brokensea CD)?? Is that somthing totally > > different than the BBC & Values audio dramas, and if so, how do you order a > > copy?* > > > > *Thanks for any help!*
> > > > *Ryan* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bill Hollweg > Have Sword... > Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale... > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- > Bill Hollweg > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio > www.brokensea.com > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.westlake
films.co.uk > Planet of the Apes > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting >
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword...
Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.com The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk Planet of the Apes Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
<.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41946 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.htmlAwhile back, not long after the release of the 2001 "POTA" remake
(and despite the fact that is was a box-office flop), I remember
reading in WIZARD magazine, or some other similar publication, that
the studio and producers briefly considered continuing on the new
franchise (timeline), but that neither BURTON nor WAHLBERG were
intersested in reprising their roles in another APE project.
If I can find the issue No. # and date of this publication I'm
quoting from, I'll forward back to y'all. IF I'm not mistaken, they
wished to go back to the Planet of Apes (in that other galaxy), not
the parallel Earth over run with Apes that Major Davidson (Wahlberg)
encounters near the end. Maybe they planned to play off (that bogus
ending) like a dream (nightmare) scenario.
RE Zuleta
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "llevik1" <david.kivell@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "kmarshal73" <kmarshal73@> wrote:
> >
> > I heard from my brother yesterday that "they" are thinking about
> making
> > a sequel to POTA (The one with Mark Walberg in it). Has anyone
heard
> > anything about this? I looked on the 'net some and haven't been
able
> to
> > find anything about this. Does anyone know of any sites with
> > news/info/rumors on this? BTW, I don't know who "they" are; he
wasn't
> > very specific on that.
> >
> At the recent NEC Memorabilia Show i spoke to Linda Harrison
about the
> remake and her thoughts on it. She said that "they are going to
make
> another one as the remake made lots of money ! "
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41947 |
From: Leo Seddon |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Another Documentary? |
|
.html Leo Here!
Next year, in order of the 40th anniversary, will there be another
documentary for Planet of the apes? like '98?. If there is, I suppose
that it might not be as detailed as the last one,'cos most of the
actors and Directors died. But will there be any event, or Celebration
whatever? :) <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41948 |
From: Mark |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
|
.html LordT told me that the POTA sequel will star Vinnie Jones and the woman that plays Pat on
Eastenders. Music by Ian Brown. <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41949 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Target Repackage |
|
.html I was unaware of this until recently, but there is a Target repackage
of POTA2K1, Beneath, and POTA into a triple feature slimline set which
features the Legacy art with a blue/black color scheme that looks
pretty cool. <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41950 |
From: Mark |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Target Repackage |
.htmlTarget has all kinds of crazy POTA repackaging including Cronenberg's 'The Fly' with POTA
'68.
I think I even saw a 'Maude/POTA' DVD.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I was unaware of this until recently, but there is a Target repackage
> of POTA2K1, Beneath, and POTA into a triple feature slimline set which
> features the Legacy art with a blue/black color scheme that looks
> pretty cool.
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41951 |
From: Glen |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Target Repackage |
.htmlThanks for the information...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I was unaware of this until recently, but there is a Target
repackage
> of POTA2K1, Beneath, and POTA into a triple feature slimline set
which
> features the Legacy art with a blue/black color scheme that looks
> pretty cool.
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41952 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 4/30/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Television Series dvd extras |
.htmlThe answer to your question is this: No, there are NO extras for the
TV series included with the "The Ultimate Collection"... That was all
a big mistake on their part to even mention those, as they are not
included...
There are no TV series extras anywhere... Not in the standard TV
series set, not in "The Ultimate Collection" ,and not in the Japanese
ICARUS ship TV series collection either...
There are no "behind the scenes" features either, as that guy was
claiming a few weeks ago...
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan" <raven33781_99@...> wrote:
>
>
> Looking recently at the POTA Ultimate DVD Boxset, that as we know,
comes
> with everything on film for the franchise!! It list TV Spots & photo
> Gallery, for each of the television series discs... Have the TV
series
> boxset with none of those features, does that mean the Ultimate
> Collection with Ape Bust has some extra features you can't get any
where
> else?? I was thinking maybe it was a mistake listing TV Spots &
Photo
> Gallery. I don't have the Ultimate Collection, so there is no way to
> confirm this... Anyone know the answer to this?
>
> My TV Series Boxset does have one trailer on the first disc,
advertising
> for the Ape Collection and the 2001 movie only!
>
> Ryan
> <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41953 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.html
.html
In a message dated 4/30/2007 12:34:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rkid67@... writes:
LordT
told me that the POTA sequel will star Vinnie Jones and the woman that plays
Pat on Eastenders. Music by Ian Brown.
Now THAT"S funny! : )
Yeah, sorry if I offended. I'm not always funny.
My sense of humor tends to lean to the snide side.
Too much Groucho Marx and Bill Murray maybe.
<.html
<.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41954 |
From: Randy |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
|
.html The Remake of POTA that is and.....not bad. Not nearly as bad as I
thought it was going to be. I liked it from the "Alternate Reality"
point of view, (Thanks Glen.). The ending was much closer to the Pierre
Boulle ending. I did like the Thade memorial. <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 41955 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.html"James" wrote:
>I think FOX knows they made some big
>mistakes with the remake and wound up
>pissing off the fans.
I think Fox's biggest problem is not that they pissed off the fans; we are,
after all, a very small minority in the market the film was aimed at. Fox's
problem is that they managed to piss off pretty much everyone by turning out
such a turkey that nobody, be they hardcore fan or casual cinemagoer, was
prepared to swallow the crap they'd churned out.
I know some franchises can get rebooted fairly quickly - for example, the
Hulk getting redone so soon after the misunderstood original - but I can't
help thinking that Burton's abomination did such damage that if we are to
see another one it might not be for another thirty years. Personally I'd be
happy if they gave up on the idea of any more PotA films. If they really
want to bring it back, TV is the way ahead but even that can probably wait
for several more years - at least until the stink of Burton-induced vomit
has faded from the local multiplexes.
Alan <.html
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Message: 41956 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 5/1/2007 6:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, alan@... writes:
Fox's
problem is that they managed to piss off pretty much everyone by turning out
such a turkey that nobody, be they hardcore fan or casual cinemagoer, was
prepared to swallow the crap they'd churned out.
Actually Fox's problem is that they spent $150 million plus making and promoting the movie and the thing did only $130 million domestically. Nowadays they usually spend MORE on the sequels because they have to top what they did before, so how do they make another APES movie and insure a profit? So far I guess they can't figure that out. No one wants to see more of what they've already given us, so they're struck trying to "reimagine" their own "reimagining." I can't imagine a worse nightmare to be stuck in. It's like something from the Twilight Zone.
-- Rory
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Message: 41957 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.htmlI've heard they're toying with the idea of opening the next one with
Linda Harrison in the shower after waking up and discovering Burton's
reimagining was just a bad dream....
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/1/2007 6:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> alan@... writes:
>
>
> > Fox's
> > problem is that they managed to piss off pretty much everyone by
turning out
> > such a turkey that nobody, be they hardcore fan or casual
cinemagoer, was
> > prepared to swallow the crap they'd churned out.
> >
>
> Actually Fox's problem is that they spent $150 million plus making
and
> promoting the movie and the thing did only $130 million
domestically. Nowadays they
> usually spend MORE on the sequels because they have to top what
they did
> before, so how do they make another APES movie and insure a
profit? So far I
> guess they can't figure that out. No one wants to see more of what
they've
> already given us, so they're struck trying to "reimagine" their
own "reimagining."
> I can't imagine a worse nightmare to be stuck in. It's like
something from
> the Twilight Zone.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41958 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: POTA (2001) - TRIVIA |
.htmlHere's some interesting TRIVIA about 'Tim Burton's "POTA"(2001):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(2001_film)
(It's) one of the few projects that didn't originate early with 'Tim
Burton.' Other directors who were attached to the project at various
times were 'Oliver Stone' and 'James Cameron' who was interested
with 'Arnold Schwarzenegger' in the lead. 'Terry Hayes,' screenwriter
for "The Road Warrior" wrote a draft: "Return to the Planet of the
Apes" which was a sequel/remake to the original series.
'Tim Burton' has stated the original plan was to have 'sequels' that
would carry the names of the original films, although the plots would
likely differ making the aborted sequel "Beneath the Planet of the
Apes." Furthermore, prior to the film's release, 'Burton' indicated
his desire to "reimagine" the other films in the Apes movie series.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41959 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
.htmlYou're welcome...er, what did I do?...=)
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <tikiman1705@...> wrote:
>
>
> The Remake of POTA that is and.....not bad. Not nearly as bad as I
> thought it was going to be. I liked it from the "Alternate Reality"
> point of view, (Thanks Glen.). The ending was much closer to the
Pierre
> Boulle ending. I did like the Thade memorial.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41960 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Don't shoot... |
.htmlMost discussion on most POTA fanboards
and lists revolves around the film timelines.
Burton's 2001 version was nothing special,
but I always took it as illustrating what has been done a lot with other
classic stories.
Take Shakespeare for example - his work
has been reinterpreted put in different times, characters and settings
pretty much constantly since he wrote it.
Why is it so hard to accept that POTA as
a concept is cool enough that folks will reinterpret it and mess with it?
Personally I've always taken it that the
original films followed one time line. The TV series was a different
version of the same idea with it's own time line and set of canon. Burton's
thing was a 3rd vision of the POTA concept.
Comics and books have all expanded and/or
contradicted other sources, so it seems that in the long run it is an exercise
in futility to shoe-horn everything into one easy chronology.
Yes I can understand that having a complete
time-line and seeing everything fit is nice and easy to view in a holistic
sense. But the world doesn't work like that. Why should a fictional
Universe be any easier to comprehend?
Maybe it's only a small percentage of hard-core
POTA fans who rage against the contradictions and desperately seek a connection
between every event and time-landmark in the entire POTA Universe. But
they are a vocal percentage. Surely picking the details to death
in such a way does nothing but reduce your overall enjoyment of the POTA
experience?
*Puts his flame retardant hat on*
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41961 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
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| I've mentioned it before, and I'll say it again: The 2001 Burton movie stank. I certainly hope that they DON'T even remotely consider making a sequel to that mess. And I know that I'm speaking for a lot of members on our forum. Zach -------Original Message------- From: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: 05/01/07 17:38:12 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) In a message dated 5/1/2007 6:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, alan@auldgreytoon. freeserve. co.uk writes:
Fox's problem is that they managed to piss off pretty much everyone by turning out such a turkey that nobody, be they hardcore fan or casual cinemagoer, was prepared to swallow the crap they'd churned out.
Actually Fox's problem is that they spent $150 million plus making and promoting the movie and the thing did only $130 million domestically. Nowadays they usually spend MORE on the sequels because they have to top what they did before, so how do they make another APES movie and insure a profit? So far I guess they can't figure that out. No one wants to see more of what they've already given us, so they're struck trying to "reimagine" their own "reimagining. " I can't imagine a worse nightmare to be stuck in. It's like something from the Twilight Zone.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41962 |
From: kidro85@aol.com |
Date: 5/1/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
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I agree 100% I say start from scratch! I would like to see it continue
after Battle, but that will never happen.
In a message dated 5/1/2007 6:24:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Zasco1957@... writes:
I've mentioned it before, and I'll say it again: The 2001 Burton
movie stank. I certainly hope that they DON'T even remotely consider
making a sequel to that mess. And I know that I'm speaking for a lot of
members on our forum.
Zach
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41963 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3627 |
.html>Posted by: "paul_mannering@..."
>paul_mannering@... darkininc
>Why is it so hard to accept that POTA as a concept is cool enough that
>folks will reinterpret it and mess with it?
That's not what's hard to accept. The big issue isn't that Burton
reinterpreted it. It's that he did so badly. Had the film been
better, it would have been more widely accepted. It's as simple as
that. The problem isn't the fans...it's the film. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41964 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Mighty World of Marvel issue 240 |
.htmlI'm back from France, and hope that you all found your way to Hunter's site during my absence to not only download the previous two issues of Mighty World of Marvel, but also to see the new autograph and make-up appliance pictures he's added to the site. Thanks to Rob Reading, Dean Preston and Glen Scheetz for sharing these items from their colections. Also added while I was away is a 37-minute video interview with Linda Harrison and Buck Kartalian from the recent Memorabilia show. Thanks to Darren Stockford and Rob Reading for making this available. This week's issue is short, just a single file. Jason and Alexander are in snow country, and all that extra white space on the pages made the file sizes smaller. ;) Thanks, Greg
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41965 |
From: 0 |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
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.html When James Cameron dropped the POTA remake project, I knew it was in
trouble. When Tim Burton picked it up, I knew it was doomed.
The news of Peter Jackson possibly making another remake lifts my
spirits though. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41966 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.html> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> > Comics and books have all expanded and/or contradicted other
sources, so it seems that in the long run it is an exercise in
futility to shoe-horn everything into one easy chronology.
If that's the case, please explain the story that Bill and yourself
are involved in producing? Isn't that trying to shoe-horn two
completely different entities into one?!? (Those being the Boulle
novel and the '68 film.)
I am seriously asking, how can it be futile unless you're involved
in it? The Broken Seas story is exactly what you've described above.
> > Maybe it's only a small percentage of hard-core POTA fans who
rage against the contradictions and desperately seek a connection
between every event and time-landmark in the entire POTA Universe.
But they are a vocal percentage. Surely picking the details to death
in such a way does nothing but reduce your overall enjoyment of the
POTA experience?
The Broken Seas audio story certainly is trying to connect EVERYTHING
in the so called POTA Universe. Does what's being done there not
count as seeking a connection between every event in the POTA
universe?
Seriously, connecting MONKEY PLANET and a masterpiece of cinema? The
two entities are not interchangable. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41967 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> I've heard they're toying with the idea of
> opening the next one with Linda Harrison in
> the shower after waking up and discovering
> Burton's reimagining was just a bad dream...
LOLOL- now THAT'S hilarious!!!! That was
VERY funny :-D A good one- GAFAW! :-D
And hmmmm... Linda Harrison in the shower.
I wonder what shape her body's in these days?
No matter... we can all imagine what we want :-)
And after POTA and BENEATH- she really needed
one! :-] Heck- they all did.
~ Jon <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41968 |
From: Randy |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "0" <vscimone@...> wrote:
Hadn't heard of Jackson possibly picking up the bannana, oops I mean
ball. Hope it's true. As for Burtons version at least he didn't use his
normal stable of actors. I mean, imagine Johnny Depp as the Astronaut,
or maybe Michael Keaton. Worse yet. Pee Wee Herman as Thade.......
>
> When James Cameron dropped the POTA remake project, I knew it was in
> trouble. When Tim Burton picked it up, I knew it was doomed.
>
> The news of Peter Jackson possibly making another remake lifts my
> spirits though.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41969 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
.htmlJackson has a primate fetish.
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| "0" <vscimone@...>
Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
03/05/2007 03:10 a.m.
Please respond to pota
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To:
pota@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject:
[POTA] Re: Finally broke down and watched
the Tim Burton POTA. |
When James Cameron dropped the POTA remake project,
I knew it was in
trouble. When Tim Burton picked it up, I knew it was doomed.
The news of Peter Jackson possibly making another remake lifts my
spirits though.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41970 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Any news on a POTA sequel? (Rumor) |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> LordT told me that the POTA sequel will star
> Vinnie Jones and the woman that plays Pat on
> Eastenders. Music by Ian Brown.
Wow! is there any way to conform that? Looking
for any site that tells anything at all about any
kind of POTA sequel :-) If at all possible :-)
~ Jon <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41971 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Maybe it's only a small percentage of hard-core
> POTA fans who rage against the contradictions and
> desperately seek a connection between every event
> and time-landmark in the entire POTA Universe. But
> they are a vocal percentage. Surely picking the de-
> tails to death in such a way does nothing but reduce
> your overall enjoyment of the POTA experience?
When I walked into the theatre to watch Tim Bur-
ton's version of POTA... I went in with a very open
mind. I walked in there expecting not to see a 'con-
tunuation' of POTA, but indeed... something different.
And just as the opening credits started, I allowed the
POTA i knew to drift from my mind, and pretended that
I was watching 'something' POTA for the very first time,
and I wanted to see if the film could stand on its own
merits. I did the same with the new Battlestar Galac-
tica, to discover something new and different, and it
was, as I came to accept it as if was the only Battle-
star Galactica I ever knew. And as is... the new BSG
stands, and very well, on its own merits, proving to
be a perfectly wonderful 'reinagining' of the BSG story
concept. And I came to love it right away.
With Burton's POTA... I was left feeling cheated
by the content of the story as he told it. The first
thing that hit me was... where in the devil did the
horses come from?!?! From the beginning I had to won-
der where else woud the film fail, as it unfolded be-
fore my eyes.
So, I sat and watched, and watched, and watched, all
the way through to that awful and confusing ending with
a 'twist' that made positively no sense to me at all,
no matter how I tried to reason it out. It's good
points? Few. Great special effects and positively
wonderful makeup. But... that was about it. The
story was weak and implausible, the dislog stilted,
and the voilence all but totally superflous. Overall...
a waste of time and film and the cost of a movie ticket.
Ultimately... I decided that it was little more
than a poorly made fan film... made by a fan whom had
no grasp at all of what POTA was about. To me... is
was like a cheap Turkish version of Star Trek, Star
Wars and E.T.- films that I have in fact seen, and
yes, produced on a showstring budget in turket. You-
Tube has those films on their site even now. Burton's
POTA reminded me... of that. ir was mqade as if some-
one had only heard of POTA, making it from incomplete
verbal notes, and a fading memory of them.
I fully gave Burton's POTA a fair chance. My mind
was open to anything... and once it was done... I
walked out feeling cheated- if not beaten and robbed.
So, do I think that Burton's POTA, is POTA? No. Not
at all. It's just a film that happens to have Apes
in it. To me... it has no real connection to the
POTA that we know and love, at all. Burton's POTA
is not POTA, not to me, no way. And personally, I
think that it would best be... totally forgotten.
~ Jon <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41972 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlActually that's Bill's project. I'm
just acting in it.
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| "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...>
Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
03/05/2007 04:21 a.m.
Please respond to pota
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To:
pota@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject:
[POTA] Re: Don't shoot... |
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> > Comics and books have all expanded and/or contradicted other
sources, so it seems that in the long run it is an exercise in
futility to shoe-horn everything into one easy chronology.
If that's the case, please explain the story that Bill and yourself
are involved in producing? Isn't that trying to shoe-horn two
completely different entities into one?!? (Those being the Boulle
novel and the '68 film.)
I am seriously asking, how can it be futile unless you're involved
in it? The Broken Seas story is exactly what you've described above.
> > Maybe it's only a small percentage of hard-core POTA fans who
rage against the contradictions and desperately seek a connection
between every event and time-landmark in the entire POTA Universe.
But they are a vocal percentage. Surely picking the details to death
in such a way does nothing but reduce your overall enjoyment of the
POTA experience?
The Broken Seas audio story certainly is trying to connect EVERYTHING
in the so called POTA Universe. Does what's being done there not
count as seeking a connection between every event in the POTA
universe?
Seriously, connecting MONKEY PLANET and a masterpiece of cinema? The
two entities are not interchangable.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41973 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Looking for some POTA-TREK Cross-over Material |
.htmlHello all :-)
Does anyone here have anything in the way of POTA and
Star Trek cross-over materials, pictures in particular?
If you do, I'd like to see them and share such with others,
if that's okay, please :-)
Such materials in any form, such as in parody or toon-
images, humor, or even if it's serious, would be just great.
Anything :-) Please... share whatever you may have, if you
can :-)
Thanx in advance :-)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Star_Trek_Fans
~ Jon <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41974 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html.html .html
Look at this picture of what Fox is offering for the "Giant Collection" full series box set of "Land of the Giants." It's going to cost between $150 to $200 bucks! Now are there that many crazy fans of this series? And we didn't get one extra for the POTA TV series!
If you can't see the picture, it's on www.thedigitalbits.com
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41975 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html
.html
In a message dated 5/2/2007 5:26:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
Look at
this picture of what Fox is offering for the "Giant Collection" full series
box set of "Land of the Giants." It's going to cost between $150 to $200
bucks! Now are there that many crazy fans of this series? And we
didn't get one extra for the POTA TV series!
If you can't see the
picture, it's on www.thedigitalbits.com
--
Rory
Actually I have been a fan of this series since it came out in
1968. However I'm not rushing out to buy it. Columbia House released the
first season on DVD a few years ago so I can watch those while I wait for the
(ridiculous) price to drop. By the way, the original script for the Giants
pilot was very similar to the first APES film. Just substitute giant humans
for apes. Fox realized their mistake and changed it to include a Lost in
Space-like cast.
Bruce <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41976 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Mighty World of Marvel issue 240 |
.htmlWelcome back, Greg...And thanks for the nod...=)
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> I'm back from France, and hope that you all found your way to
Hunter's site during my absence to not only download the previous two
issues of Mighty World of Marvel, but also to see the new autograph
and make-up appliance pictures he's added to the site. Thanks to Rob
Reading, Dean Preston and Glen Scheetz for sharing these items from
their colections.
>
> Also added while I was away is a 37-minute video interview with
Linda Harrison and Buck Kartalian from the recent Memorabilia show.
Thanks to Darren Stockford and Rob Reading for making this available.
>
> This week's issue is short, just a single file. Jason and
Alexander are in snow country, and all that extra white space on the
pages made the file sizes smaller. ;)
>
> https://pota.goatley.com
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41977 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlWell, regardless of whose project it is, you really do have to admit
that a lot of the things you were pointing out do apply to it (Broken
Sea's "planet" that is.)
You have clarified that you're just acting it, that's fair enough.
But still, the questions asked do apply, and since you are a part of
it, though as an actor, I'd still like to ask:
1)Please explain the story that Broken Seas is producing: Isn't that
trying to shoe-horn two completely different entities into one? I ask
you because you don't seem to care for the idea of "shoe-horning",
and I would like to know your viewpoint on it as it applies to Broken
Seas, especially since you've chosen to take part in their retelling.
2)It appears (so far) that the Broken Seas audio story is trying to
connect EVERYTHING in the so called POTA Universe. Does what's being
done there not count as seeking a connection between every event in
the POTA universe?
I would also ask for Bill's viewpoints on this, but as of right now,
he has not made any commentary pro or con on mixing everything up,
where you have.
I myself do not like the idea of trying to tie everything into one
neat bow. I do see where the TV series "can" be related to the films
in that it can be looked at as earlier in the timeline. However, I do
not believe in trying to combine the various comics and/or RETURN
with the established canon of the flms.
I would also like to ask the moderator(s) of this board to allow this
post to pass without incident. It is not an attack on anyone, it is
clearly just asking someone their views on a particular project that
they are involved in, since the project appears to clide with their
own personal "beliefs". It is no different than asking someone
wearing fur what they are doing at a PETA meeting.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Actually that's Bill's project. I'm just acting in it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...>
> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
> 03/05/2007 04:21 a.m.
> Please respond to pota
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Don't shoot...
>
>
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> >
> > > Comics and books have all expanded and/or contradicted other
> sources, so it seems that in the long run it is an exercise in
> futility to shoe-horn everything into one easy chronology.
>
> If that's the case, please explain the story that Bill and yourself
> are involved in producing? Isn't that trying to shoe-horn two
> completely different entities into one?!? (Those being the Boulle
> novel and the '68 film.)
>
> I am seriously asking, how can it be futile unless you're involved
> in it? The Broken Seas story is exactly what you've described above.
>
>
> > > Maybe it's only a small percentage of hard-core POTA fans who
> rage against the contradictions and desperately seek a connection
> between every event and time-landmark in the entire POTA Universe.
> But they are a vocal percentage. Surely picking the details to
death
> in such a way does nothing but reduce your overall enjoyment of
the
> POTA experience?
>
> The Broken Seas audio story certainly is trying to connect
EVERYTHING
> in the so called POTA Universe. Does what's being done there not
> count as seeking a connection between every event in the POTA
> universe?
>
> Seriously, connecting MONKEY PLANET and a masterpiece of cinema?
The
> two entities are not interchangable.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41978 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Finally broke down and watched the Tim Burton POTA. |
.htmlHe did use Glenn Shadix (Sen. Nardo) who was in Beetlejuice and Nightmare and of curse there was Lisa Marie...... Tim Randy <tikiman1705@...> wrote: --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "0" <vscimone@.. .> wrote: Hadn't heard of Jackson possibly picking up the bannana, oops I mean ball. Hope it's true. As for Burtons version at least he didn't use his normal stable of actors. I mean, imagine Johnny Depp as the Astronaut, or maybe Michael Keaton.
Worse yet. Pee Wee Herman as Thade....... > > When James Cameron dropped the POTA remake project, I knew it was in > trouble. When Tim Burton picked it up, I knew it was doomed. > > The news of Peter Jackson possibly making another remake lifts my > spirits though. >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41979 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/2/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlI can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him
to post a explanation.
From where I'm sitting I do see a difference
between the BrokenSea Audio production and the usual discussion about what
happened when.
From the scripts I have read Bill is just
blending everything together, having characters that had no original relationship
appear in scenes that follow on.
To me there is a distinction between what
Bill is doing - which is making his own vision of the POTA experience and
what I was refering to originally - being the arguing of semantics over
chronology.
Bill is actually doing what Burton should
have done - take the best elements of the POTA Universe and make your own
vision out of it.
>It is no different than asking someone wearing
fur what they are doing at a PETA meeting.
ROFL
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41980 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.html
Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying I am a fan of both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and although I could have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the book or the movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see the chimp astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the story, I also always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was interested in Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few other things as sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully not detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just adding a bit of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I understand that some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and that's cool. This is how I see the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and I by no means am trying to destroy a work of art
that I have enjoyed since I raced home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope this helps. If not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you for your views amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the same love for POTA.
On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@... <paul_mannering@...
> wrote:
I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to post a explanation.
From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the BrokenSea Audio production and the usual discussion about what happened when.
From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything together, having characters that had no original relationship appear in scenes that follow on.
To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing - which is making his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering to originally - being the arguing of semantics over chronology.
Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take the best elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out of it.
>It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what they are doing at a PETA meeting.
ROFL
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Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.com The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41981 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlAnd someday I will spell check my responses to the list-don't shoot me for the mis-pellings-LOL
On 5/3/07, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying I am a fan of both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and although I could have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the book or the movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see the chimp astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the story, I also always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was interested in Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few other things as sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully not detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just adding a bit of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I understand that some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and that's cool. This is how I see
the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and I by no means am trying to destroy a work of art that I have enjoyed since I raced home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope this helps. If not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you for your views amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the same love for POTA.
On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@...
<paul_mannering@... > wrote:
I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to post a explanation.
From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the BrokenSea Audio production and the usual discussion about what happened when.
From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything together, having characters that had no original relationship appear in scenes that follow on.
To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing - which is making his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering to originally - being the arguing of semantics over chronology.
Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take the best elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out of it.
>It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what they are doing at a PETA meeting.
ROFL
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-- Bill Hollweg
Have Sword... Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @ http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword... Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.com The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @ http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41982 |
From: corneliusrobinson77 |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Battle uncut on region 2? |
|
.html Hello everybody, new apes fan here. Can anyone please tell me if Battle
for the Planet of the Apes has been released uncut on region 2 yet? All
the online retailers I have looked at show a run time of 83 minutes
which presumably is the cut version.
In fact given it's POTA's 40th anniversary next year can we expect yet
another release of the series? <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41983 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: talking apes! |
.htmlhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070501/sc_nm/apes_language_dc Tim
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41984 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlIMHO, I think Bill has done an excellent job with his adaptaion...I,
personally, don't understand what the attacks are all about...I
wouldn't change a thing -- except, maybe to turn it all visual,
rather than just audio!...=)
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying I am
a fan of
> both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and although
I could
> have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the book
or the
> movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see the
chimp
> astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the
story, I also
> always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was
interested in
> Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few other
things as
> sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully not
> detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just
adding a bit
> of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I
understand that
> some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and that's
cool. This
> is how I see the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and I
by no
> means am trying to destroy a work of art that I have enjoyed since
I raced
> home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope this
helps. If
> not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you for
your views
> amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the same
love for
> POTA.
>
> On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@... <paul_mannering@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to post a
explanation.
> >
> > From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the
BrokenSea Audio
> > production and the usual discussion about what happened when.
> >
> > From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything
together,
> > having characters that had no original relationship appear in
scenes that
> > follow on.
> >
> > To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing - which
is making
> > his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering to
originally
> > - being the arguing of semantics over chronology.
> >
> > Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take the
best
> > elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out of it.
> >
> >
> > >It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what they are
doing at
> > a PETA meeting.
> >
> > ROFL
> >
> >
> >
> > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have
received this
> > communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
and delete
> > the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email designates
an
> > information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of the New
Zealand
> > Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.com
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41985 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: talking apes! |
.htmlVery interesting...Thanks, Tim...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070501/sc_nm/apes_language_dc
>
> Tim
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41986 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
.htmlFirst off, welcome...Glad to have you here...
To answer your question, the longest version released to date came
out with the "head"...It included all the cut scenes, to my
knowledge...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "corneliusrobinson77"
<corneliusrobinson77@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody, new apes fan here. Can anyone please tell me if
Battle
> for the Planet of the Apes has been released uncut on region 2 yet?
All
> the online retailers I have looked at show a run time of 83 minutes
> which presumably is the cut version.
>
> In fact given it's POTA's 40th anniversary next year can we expect
yet
> another release of the series?
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41987 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlThanks glen! <firing up my spell checker now-LOL> I appreciate it! But I really don't feel that was an attack, just someone asking for clarification and stating their opinion in a professional and non-combative way which is groovy! <I could tell ya tales for hours- of attacks over this issue from other places on the net that were abusive and juvinile-but I won't>. We are doing this out of a love for POTA, and because it's fun and hopefully will give ya a break from bill's, yardwork, speeding tickets, yada yada for 20 minutes of escapism and fun in a universe we all enjoy. And doing it for free so all can listen. Wheter it's art, fun, or fluff, we are havin a ball and I am honored that so many people are listening!
On 5/3/07, Glen <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
IMHO, I think Bill has done an excellent job with his adaptaion...I, personally, don't understand what the attacks are all about...I wouldn't change a thing -- except, maybe to turn it all visual,
rather than just audio!...=)
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
> > Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying I am a fan of > both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and although I could > have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the book
or the > movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see the chimp > astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the story, I also > always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was
interested in > Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few other things as > sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully not > detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just
adding a bit > of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I understand that > some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and that's cool. This > is how I see the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and I
by no > means am trying to destroy a work of art that I have enjoyed since I raced > home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope this helps. If > not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you for
your views > amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the same love for > POTA. >
> On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@... <paul_mannering@...>
> wrote: > > > > I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to post a explanation. > > > > From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the
BrokenSea Audio > > production and the usual discussion about what happened when. > > > > From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything together, > > having characters that had no original relationship appear in
scenes that > > follow on. > > > > To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing - which is making > > his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering to
originally > > - being the arguing of semantics over chronology. > > > > Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take the best > > elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out of it.
> > > > > > >It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what they are doing at > > a PETA meeting. > > > > ROFL > > > > > >
> > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received this > > communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete > > the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email designates
an > > information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of the New Zealand > > Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited. > > > > > > >
> >
> -- > Bill Hollweg > Have Sword... > Will Slay... > Barbarian in need of Ale... > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- > Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio > www.brokensea.com > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @ >
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk > Planet of the Apes > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting >
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword...
Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.com The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk Planet of the Apes Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41988 |
From: corneliusrobinson77 |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
.htmlHi, thanks. I'd forgotten about the head. As much as I'd like it,
it's a bit pricey. Maybe I'll have a look around for an imported
version of Battle.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> First off, welcome...Glad to have you here...
> To answer your question, the longest version released to date came
> out with the "head"...It included all the cut scenes, to my
> knowledge...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "corneliusrobinson77"
> <corneliusrobinson77@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everybody, new apes fan here. Can anyone please tell me if
> Battle
> > for the Planet of the Apes has been released uncut on region 2
yet?
> All
> > the online retailers I have looked at show a run time of 83
minutes
> > which presumably is the cut version.
> >
> > In fact given it's POTA's 40th anniversary next year can we
expect
> yet
> > another release of the series?
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41989 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html.html .htmlIn a message dated 5/2/2007 6:05:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:
By the way, the original script for the Giants pilot was very similar to the first APES film.
The seats used in the spaceship in LAND OF THE GIANTS are the same ones used in the original Icarus set in POTA, though they did change the color for the TV show.
-- Rory
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41990 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html
.html
In a message dated 5/3/2007 5:51:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
In a message dated 5/2/2007 6:05:00 PM Eastern Standard
Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
By the way,
the original script for the Giants pilot was very similar to the first APES
film.
The seats used in the spaceship in LAND OF THE GIANTS are
the same ones used in the original Icarus set in POTA, though they did change
the color for the TV show.
--
Rory
That's right. And I think they were re-painted again and used in Babylon
5!
Bruce <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41991 |
From: Jonathan |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: talking apes! |
| Group: pota |
Message: 41992 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
.htmlThe Ultimate Collection is a bit pricey, especially since it includes
NOTHING new as far as the films go... Sure, they included RETURN with
it (I think as a "draw card") and then sold it seperately anyway.
And, that Caesar head isn't so great in my opinion. They should have
had it be Cornelius, since I think Cornelius is probably more well
known, plus it would have been better to have an ape from the original
film. I'll give them this much though: At least they didn't have the
DVDs held in a case that resembled the Statue of Liberty.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "corneliusrobinson77"
<corneliusrobinson77@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, thanks. I'd forgotten about the head. As much as I'd like it,
> it's a bit pricey. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41993 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlWho attacked who?
I only asked Paul to clarify his stance a bit. After all, to me it
seemed as though he was against trying to "mix" things, and yet he is
involved in a project that clearly IS mixing various elements. His
response cleared that up, at least somewhat.
I think I get what he does think on the subject and that's the end of
that. I do still see some weirdness though, in that while Paul does
say that Bill's story doesn't really fall in the catagory of what he
doesn't care for (the chronology issues) I still say that it
does/could/might.
For example, take Milo's backstory. While it could have taken place
during what we know as PLANET, "chronologically", it may have taken
place during the brief gap of time from the end of PLANET and the
story of BENEATH. There really is no knowing of what the actual
window of time is, but assuming Bill's story takes place only during
the timeframe of PLANET, then the Broken Sea's story "is" playing
with the order of the events happening.
Not a major issue, but still, it does count as a chain of events issue
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> IMHO, I think Bill has done an excellent job with his adaption...I,
> personally, don't understand what the attacks are all about...I
> wouldn't change a thing -- except, maybe to turn it all visual,
> rather than just audio!...=)
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying I
am
> a fan of
> > both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and
although
> I could
> > have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the book
> or the
> > movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see the
> chimp
> > astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the
> story, I also
> > always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was
> interested in
> > Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few
other
> things as
> > sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully not
> > detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just
> adding a bit
> > of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I
> understand that
> > some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and that's
> cool. This
> > is how I see the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and I
> by no
> > means am trying to destroy a work of art that I have enjoyed
since
> I raced
> > home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope this
> helps. If
> > not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you for
> your views
> > amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the same
> love for
> > POTA.
> >
> > On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@ <paul_mannering@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to post a
> explanation.
> > >
> > > From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the
> BrokenSea Audio
> > > production and the usual discussion about what happened when.
> > >
> > > From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything
> together,
> > > having characters that had no original relationship appear in
> scenes that
> > > follow on.
> > >
> > > To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing - which
> is making
> > > his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering
to
> originally
> > > - being the arguing of semantics over chronology.
> > >
> > > Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take the
> best
> > > elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out of
it.
> > >
> > >
> > > >It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what they
are
> doing at
> > > a PETA meeting.
> > >
> > > ROFL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have
> received this
> > > communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
> and delete
> > > the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
designates
> an
> > > information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of the New
> Zealand
> > > Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea.com
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41994 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlYou're right, attack's too strong a word...My apologies...
It's just that, as an artist/writer/actor, I realize the lengths
someone needs to go to to create their dream...I believe Bill, and
his team, have done an excellent job with their creation, expanding
logically beyond the original movies, without losing their true
feel...And, unlike the last three Apes items to come out (the comic,
Sideshow's figures and Rittenhouse's cards), no one has made a penny
off of Broken Sea's "Planet of the Apes"...
I just hate to see anything that is discouraging being bantered
around about that kind of love and devotion to their craft, that's
all...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> Who attacked who?
>
> I only asked Paul to clarify his stance a bit. After all, to me it
> seemed as though he was against trying to "mix" things, and yet he
is
> involved in a project that clearly IS mixing various elements. His
> response cleared that up, at least somewhat.
>
> I think I get what he does think on the subject and that's the end
of
> that. I do still see some weirdness though, in that while Paul does
> say that Bill's story doesn't really fall in the catagory of what
he
> doesn't care for (the chronology issues) I still say that it
> does/could/might.
>
>
> For example, take Milo's backstory. While it could have taken place
> during what we know as PLANET, "chronologically", it may have taken
> place during the brief gap of time from the end of PLANET and the
> story of BENEATH. There really is no knowing of what the actual
> window of time is, but assuming Bill's story takes place only
during
> the timeframe of PLANET, then the Broken Sea's story "is" playing
> with the order of the events happening.
>
> Not a major issue, but still, it does count as a chain of events
issue
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@> wrote:
> >
> > IMHO, I think Bill has done an excellent job with his
adaption...I,
> > personally, don't understand what the attacks are all about...I
> > wouldn't change a thing -- except, maybe to turn it all visual,
> > rather than just audio!...=)
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying
I
> am
> > a fan of
> > > both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and
> although
> > I could
> > > have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the
book
> > or the
> > > movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see
the
> > chimp
> > > astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the
> > story, I also
> > > always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was
> > interested in
> > > Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few
> other
> > things as
> > > sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully
not
> > > detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just
> > adding a bit
> > > of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I
> > understand that
> > > some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and
that's
> > cool. This
> > > is how I see the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and
I
> > by no
> > > means am trying to destroy a work of art that I have enjoyed
> since
> > I raced
> > > home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope
this
> > helps. If
> > > not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you
for
> > your views
> > > amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the
same
> > love for
> > > POTA.
> > >
> > > On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@ <paul_mannering@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to post a
> > explanation.
> > > >
> > > > From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the
> > BrokenSea Audio
> > > > production and the usual discussion about what happened when.
> > > >
> > > > From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything
> > together,
> > > > having characters that had no original relationship appear in
> > scenes that
> > > > follow on.
> > > >
> > > > To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing -
which
> > is making
> > > > his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering
> to
> > originally
> > > > - being the arguing of semantics over chronology.
> > > >
> > > > Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take
the
> > best
> > > > elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out of
> it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what they
> are
> > doing at
> > > > a PETA meeting.
> > > >
> > > > ROFL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have
> > received this
> > > > communication by mistake, please advise the sender
immediately
> > and delete
> > > > the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
> designates
> > an
> > > > information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of the
New
> > Zealand
> > > > Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Hollweg
> > > Have Sword...
> > > Will Slay...
> > > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > > Bill Hollweg
> > > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > > www.brokensea.com
> > > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > > Planet of the Apes
> > > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> > >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41995 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.html
.html
In a message dated 5/4/2007 2:03:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
HotScheetz@... writes:
I just
hate to see anything that is discouraging
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41996 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Battle uncut on region 2? |
.html> The Ultimate Collection is a bit pricey, especially since it includes
> NOTHING new as far as the films go... Sure, they included RETURN with
> it (I think as a "draw card") and then sold it seperately anyway.
Don't forget that the separately-released versions were much better
quality than what was included in the Ultimate Collection.
> And, that Caesar head isn't so great in my opinion. They should have
> had it be Cornelius, since I think Cornelius is probably more well
> known, plus it would have been better to have an ape from the original
> film.
To most people, it's an ape---that's all that matters. I'm sure lots
of people who bought the head wouldn't be able to tell you who it
was.....
Hunter <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41997 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlThanks for the interest amigo! The BrokenSea production is taking place in the POTA timeframe but will run through the end of Beneath POTA (they both seem to run together and I have always thought that they could be edited together into 1 3-4 hour film) and so Dr Milo and such can be added IMO without hurting the timeline and set up the Escape premise without just adding an Unknown Chimpanzee into the mix. I loved Escape POTA, but always wanted a smidge more about Dr Milo as a fan of the series. I know it sounds like I am trying to totally muddy the timeline, but I really am just trying to add a few bits here and there to open it up a hair. Hope that makes sense.
On 5/4/07, aboro3085 <aboro3085@...> wrote:
Who attacked who?
I only asked Paul to clarify his stance a bit. After all, to me it seemed as though he was against trying to "mix" things, and yet he is involved in a project that clearly IS mixing various elements. His
response cleared that up, at least somewhat.
I think I get what he does think on the subject and that's the end of that. I do still see some weirdness though, in that while Paul does say that Bill's story doesn't really fall in the catagory of what he
doesn't care for (the chronology issues) I still say that it does/could/might.
For example, take Milo's backstory. While it could have taken place during what we know as PLANET, "chronologically", it may have taken
place during the brief gap of time from the end of PLANET and the story of BENEATH. There really is no knowing of what the actual window of time is, but assuming Bill's story takes place only during the timeframe of PLANET, then the Broken Sea's story "is" playing
with the order of the events happening.
Not a major issue, but still, it does count as a chain of events issue
--- In
pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote: > > IMHO, I think Bill has done an excellent job with his adaption...I,
> personally, don't understand what the attacks are all about...I > wouldn't change a thing -- except, maybe to turn it all visual, > rather than just audio!...=)
> > G > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@> wrote:
> > > > Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying I am > a fan of > > both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and although > I could
> > have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the book > or the > > movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see the > chimp > > astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the
> story, I also > > always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was > interested in > > Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few other > things as
> > sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully not > > detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just > adding a bit > > of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I
> understand that > > some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and that's > cool. This > > is how I see the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and I > by no
> > means am trying to destroy a work of art that I have enjoyed since > I raced > > home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope this > helps. If > > not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you for
> your views > > amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the same > love for > > POTA. > > > > On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@ <paul_mannering@> > > wrote:
> > > > > > I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to post a > explanation. > > > > > > From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the > BrokenSea Audio
> > > production and the usual discussion about what happened when. > > > > > > From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything > together, > > > having characters that had no original relationship appear in
> scenes that > > > follow on. > > > > > > To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing - which > is making > > > his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering
to > originally > > > - being the arguing of semantics over chronology. > > > > > > Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take the > best > > > elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out of
it. > > > > > > > > > >It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what they are > doing at > > > a PETA meeting. > > > > > > ROFL
> > > > > > > > > > > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have > received this > > > communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
> and delete > > > the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email designates > an > > > information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of the New > Zealand
> > > Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword... > > Will Slay... > > Barbarian in need of Ale... > > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- > > Bill Hollweg > > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio > >
www.brokensea.com > > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @ > >
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk > > Planet of the Apes > > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting > > >
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword...
Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.com The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk Planet of the Apes Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41998 |
From: James |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver |
.htmlThe new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
To view the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.
Have a great weekend everybody!
Visit all the Group's special features including:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 41999 |
From: 0 |
Date: 5/4/2007 |
| Subject: The Future is NOW! |
.htmlLooks like the conquest of the Planet of the Apes is starting in Vienna, Austria!! Click here for the aritcle..
Gotta go. Gotta make myself a flame thrower and hide all the knives...
-Luhiss
(hope they get that chimp what he needs)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42000 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 5/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.htmlSpeaking of re-using props (sets or items) from "POTA" films, I
remember this one time, when 'Entertainment Tonight's' JOHN TESH'
gues-starred in an episode from the first season of "Star Trek: TNG,"
he appeared - or played the part of this stand in 'klingon'
wearing "POTA" (gorilla-militant) boots. I think it was the episode
where 'Lt. Worf' undergoes a 'klingon rite of passage' ceremony
(inside the holodeck). In the scene there's all these 'klingon'
warriors lined up side by side, on top this pedestal like things, and
each one of them is holding a long caddle prod like stick. They each
have to shock 'Worf' with it as he walks down the aisle,
RE Zuleta
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 5/3/2007 5:51:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/2/2007 6:05:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
stenosaurus@In
> a message da
>
>
>
> By the way, the original script for the Giants pilot was very
similar to the
> first APES film.
>
>
> The seats used in the spaceship in LAND OF THE GIANTS are the same
ones used
> in the original Icarus set in POTA, though they did change the
color for the
> TV show.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's right. And I think they were re-painted again and used in
Babylon 5!
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42001 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html
.html
In a message dated 5/5/2007 1:44:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
re_zuleta@... writes:
Speaking of re-using props (sets or items) from "POTA" films, I
remember this one time, when 'Entertainment Tonight's' JOHN TESH'
gues-starred in an episode from the first season of "Star Trek: TNG,"
he appeared - or played the part of this stand in 'klingon' wearing
"POTA" (gorilla-militant) boots. I think it was the episode where 'Lt.
Worf' undergoes a 'klingon rite of passage' ceremony (inside the
holodeck). In the scene there's all these 'klingon' warriors lined up side
by side, on top this pedestal like things, and each one of them is holding
a long caddle prod like stick. They each have to shock 'Worf' with it as
he walks down the aisle,
RE Zuleta
Sorry to say I never really looked at the gorillas' feet lol...but I did
look at the Addar model of Ursus and his boots are 'cloven" or split like a
hoof ..is that what the boots looked like in the films?
Bruce <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42002 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlI don't think my original post was as
clear as it should have been.
In summary.
POTA is rife with potential contradictions
- particularly when you focus on the details such as the chronology of
all the material. Focusing on the minutiae of things that can never
really be completely resolved (eg: POTA chronology) is an exercise in futility
that over all just detracts from the coolness of POTA.
Therefore - No I don't think Bill's
audio production is in breach of this. He has taken (IMO) the best
aspects of Apes and blended it together into a quality audio drama that
has something for the hardcore fans as well as those who haven't even seen
the original films.
(And I didn't feel attacked, just challenged
to explain my argument - which is a good thing).
|
| "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...>
Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
04/05/2007 05:46 P.M.
Please respond to pota
|
To:
pota@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject:
[POTA] Re: Don't shoot... |
Who attacked who?
I only asked Paul to clarify his stance a bit. After all, to me it
seemed as though he was against trying to "mix" things, and yet
he is
involved in a project that clearly IS mixing various elements. His
response cleared that up, at least somewhat.
I think I get what he does think on the subject and that's the end of
that. I do still see some weirdness though, in that while Paul does
say that Bill's story doesn't really fall in the catagory of what he
doesn't care for (the chronology issues) I still say that it
does/could/might.
For example, take Milo's backstory. While it could have taken place
during what we know as PLANET, "chronologically", it may have
taken
place during the brief gap of time from the end of PLANET and the
story of BENEATH. There really is no knowing of what the actual
window of time is, but assuming Bill's story takes place only during
the timeframe of PLANET, then the Broken Sea's story "is" playing
with the order of the events happening.
Not a major issue, but still, it does count as a chain of events issue
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> IMHO, I think Bill has done an excellent job with his adaption...I,
> personally, don't understand what the attacks are all about...I
> wouldn't change a thing -- except, maybe to turn it all visual,
> rather than just audio!...=)
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@>
wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to have been so quiet about this. I will start by saying
I
am
> a fan of
> > both the book and the movie (and comaics-TV show-etc), and
although
> I could
> > have done a strait adaption <and considered doing either the
book
> or the
> > movie> I wanted to do a bit more, I had always wanted to see
the
> chimp
> > astronauts and I think they add a cool extra dimension to the
> story, I also
> > always wondered how Dr Milo got Taylor's Ship working, and was
> interested in
> > Dr Hassline and his story. So I am exploring these and a few
other
> things as
> > sidebars that I hope will add a bit to the story and hopefully
not
> > detract. I will say I am staying true to the script, and just
> adding a bit
> > of spice that I hope all will look at and give a chance. I
> understand that
> > some would rather it be a true strait forward adaption and that's
> cool. This
> > is how I see the story, and how I have chosen to go with it and
I
> by no
> > means am trying to destroy a work of art that I have enjoyed
since
> I raced
> > home on my bike in elementary school to catch ape week. Hope
this
> helps. If
> > not, just hollar and I will try to explain further. Thank you
for
> your views
> > amigo, I am happy to discuss POTA with people that have the same
> love for
> > POTA.
> >
> > On 5/2/07, paul_mannering@ <paul_mannering@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't speak for Bill, but I can ask him to
post a
> explanation.
> > >
> > > From where I'm sitting I do see a difference between the
> BrokenSea Audio
> > > production and the usual discussion about what happened
when.
> > >
> > > From the scripts I have read Bill is just blending everything
> together,
> > > having characters that had no original relationship appear
in
> scenes that
> > > follow on.
> > >
> > > To me there is a distinction between what Bill is doing
- which
> is making
> > > his own vision of the POTA experience and what I was refering
to
> originally
> > > - being the arguing of semantics over chronology.
> > >
> > > Bill is actually doing what Burton should have done - take
the
> best
> > > elements of the POTA Universe and make your own vision out
of
it.
> > >
> > >
> > > >It is no different than asking someone wearing fur what
they
are
> doing at
> > > a PETA meeting.
> > >
> > > ROFL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have
> received this
> > > communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
> and delete
> > > the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
designates
> an
> > > information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of
the New
> Zealand
> > > Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand Limited.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea.com
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> >
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42003 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
.html.html .htmlJust to follow up on those two guys I told about a while back who've done commentaries for some of the Fox spy films on DVD. I've emailed one of them at CINEMARETRO@... and this is the reply I got about doing commentaries for APES:
"Thanks Rory...I've suggested the Ape films to Fox...it will probably be a while in the best case only because they have marketed them so often that they probably want to give them a breather...I would love to do the lesser ones [He means the sequels], as I think sometimes these are the more interesting to cover because they've been analyzed the least...We had fun doing the spy movie commentaries for Fox... In fact, the famous Film Forum just had Eddy and I introduce Our Man Flint last week in NY-- a packed house saw a stunning 35mm print that looked like it was struck very recently....Great to see audiences enjoy these old classics."
So, hopefully Fox will think that late 2008 is enough of a "breather," at least for the original, which will be celebrating its 40th anniversary.
If you want to contact this guy about APES and check out the magazine he publishes, here's the info:
Lee Pfeiffer
Editor-in-Chief
Cinema Retro magazine
732-752-7257
WWW.CINEMARETRO.COM- "CINEMA RETRO" IS THE NEW MAGAZINE DEVOTED TO CLASSIC & CULT FILMS OF THE ' 60S & '70S. WRITTEN ABOUT AND BY THE ACTORS & FILMMAKERS OF THE ERA.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42004 |
From: Mark |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: POTA at Memorabilia |
| Group: pota |
Message: 42005 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
| Group: pota |
Message: 42006 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
.htmlThanks, Rory...Hopefully, there'll be something for the next
anniversary...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Just to follow up on those two guys I told about a while back
who've done
> commentaries for some of the Fox spy films on DVD. I've emailed
one of them at
> CINEMARETRO@... and this is the reply I got about doing
commentaries
> for APES:
>
> "Thanks Rory...I've suggested the Ape films to Fox...it will
probably be a
> while in the best case only because they have marketed them so
often that they
> probably want to give them a breather...I would love to do the
lesser ones [He
> means the sequels], as I think sometimes these are the more
interesting to
> cover because they've been analyzed the least...We had fun doing
the spy movie
> commentaries for Fox... In fact, the famous Film Forum just had
Eddy and I
> introduce Our Man Flint last week in NY-- a packed house saw a
stunning 35mm print
> that looked like it was struck very recently....Great to see
audiences enjoy
> these old classics."
>
> So, hopefully Fox will think that late 2008 is enough of
a "breather," at
> least for the original, which will be celebrating its 40th
anniversary.
>
> If you want to contact this guy about APES and check out the
magazine he
> publishes, here's the info:
>
> Lee Pfeiffer
> Editor-in-Chief
> Cinema Retro magazine
> 732-752-7257
> WWW.CINEMARETRO.COM- "CINEMA RETRO" IS THE NEW MAGAZINE DEVOTED TO
CLASSIC &
> CULT FILMS OF THE ' 60S & '70S. WRITTEN ABOUT AND BY THE ACTORS &
FILMMAKERS
> OF THE ERA.
> NOW AVAILABLE: ISSUE #7 FEATURING:
> *The making of "Batman" with Adam West & Burt Ward
> *Interviews with David McCallum & John Philip Law
> *Inside the "Death Wish" films
> *Elvis and his starlets
> *Rare movie stills and poster art
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at http://www.aol.com
> <.html
|
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42007 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
.htmlThanks, Rory...Hopefully, there'll be something for the next
anniversary...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Just to follow up on those two guys I told about a while back
who've done
> commentaries for some of the Fox spy films on DVD. I've emailed
one of them at
> CINEMARETRO@... and this is the reply I got about doing
commentaries
> for APES:
>
> "Thanks Rory...I've suggested the Ape films to Fox...it will
probably be a
> while in the best case only because they have marketed them so
often that they
> probably want to give them a breather...I would love to do the
lesser ones [He
> means the sequels], as I think sometimes these are the more
interesting to
> cover because they've been analyzed the least...We had fun doing
the spy movie
> commentaries for Fox... In fact, the famous Film Forum just had
Eddy and I
> introduce Our Man Flint last week in NY-- a packed house saw a
stunning 35mm print
> that looked like it was struck very recently....Great to see
audiences enjoy
> these old classics."
>
> So, hopefully Fox will think that late 2008 is enough of
a "breather," at
> least for the original, which will be celebrating its 40th
anniversary.
>
> If you want to contact this guy about APES and check out the
magazine he
> publishes, here's the info:
>
> Lee Pfeiffer
> Editor-in-Chief
> Cinema Retro magazine
> 732-752-7257
> WWW.CINEMARETRO.COM- "CINEMA RETRO" IS THE NEW MAGAZINE DEVOTED TO
CLASSIC &
> CULT FILMS OF THE ' 60S & '70S. WRITTEN ABOUT AND BY THE ACTORS &
FILMMAKERS
> OF THE ERA.
> NOW AVAILABLE: ISSUE #7 FEATURING:
> *The making of "Batman" with Adam West & Burt Ward
> *Interviews with David McCallum & John Philip Law
> *Inside the "Death Wish" films
> *Elvis and his starlets
> *Rare movie stills and poster art
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at http://www.aol.com
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42008 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
.htmlThanks, Rory...Hopefully, there'll be something for the next
anniversary...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Just to follow up on those two guys I told about a while back
who've done
> commentaries for some of the Fox spy films on DVD. I've emailed
one of them at
> CINEMARETRO@... and this is the reply I got about doing
commentaries
> for APES:
>
> "Thanks Rory...I've suggested the Ape films to Fox...it will
probably be a
> while in the best case only because they have marketed them so
often that they
> probably want to give them a breather...I would love to do the
lesser ones [He
> means the sequels], as I think sometimes these are the more
interesting to
> cover because they've been analyzed the least...We had fun doing
the spy movie
> commentaries for Fox... In fact, the famous Film Forum just had
Eddy and I
> introduce Our Man Flint last week in NY-- a packed house saw a
stunning 35mm print
> that looked like it was struck very recently....Great to see
audiences enjoy
> these old classics."
>
> So, hopefully Fox will think that late 2008 is enough of
a "breather," at
> least for the original, which will be celebrating its 40th
anniversary.
>
> If you want to contact this guy about APES and check out the
magazine he
> publishes, here's the info:
>
> Lee Pfeiffer
> Editor-in-Chief
> Cinema Retro magazine
> 732-752-7257
> WWW.CINEMARETRO.COM- "CINEMA RETRO" IS THE NEW MAGAZINE DEVOTED TO
CLASSIC &
> CULT FILMS OF THE ' 60S & '70S. WRITTEN ABOUT AND BY THE ACTORS &
FILMMAKERS
> OF THE ERA.
> NOW AVAILABLE: ISSUE #7 FEATURING:
> *The making of "Batman" with Adam West & Burt Ward
> *Interviews with David McCallum & John Philip Law
> *Inside the "Death Wish" films
> *Elvis and his starlets
> *Rare movie stills and poster art
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at http://www.aol.com
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42009 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
.htmlIt would be odd of them to miss such
an anniversary.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42010 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
.htmlIt might be old news to some, but it was new news to me, and thoroughly
enjoyable...Thanks, Mark...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> Found this on YouTube, probably old news but thought I'd post it
anyway.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxuk-fIAED4
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42011 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/6/2007 |
| Subject: Yahoo glitch... |
|
.html Looks like Yahoo's threepeating posts, again...
G <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42012 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Ultimate Collection ape head |
.htmlI'm really not so sure of that.
I am only guessing that "most" of the folks who bought the set were
more than just casual viewers. Casual viewers/fans might look at it as
just an ape, but more of the hardcore fans do know who is who.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
> To most people, it's an ape---that's all that matters. I'm sure lots
> of people who bought the head wouldn't be able to tell you who it
> was.....
>
> Hunter
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42013 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.htmlYes, the gorillas boots are "split toed", just as you see on the Ursus
model (not "three toed" as incorrectly depicted on the MEGO figure.)
You'll also see the split toes boots on the orangutans when they are
wearing boots, and if my memory is correct, the chimpanzee prefects on
the TV show wear the split toes boots as well.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
> Sorry to say I never really looked at the gorillas' feet lol...but I
did look at the Addar model of Ursus and his boots are 'cloven" or
split like a hoof ..is that what the boots looked like in the films? <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42014 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlGood God, how long are you planning on this story of your's running? ;0
Seriously, I was under the impression that it was just to be the story
in Planet, not combining two of them?
Maybe Epic of the POTA would have been a better title?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the interest amigo! The BrokenSea production is taking
place in the POTA timeframe but will run through the end of Beneath
POTA. <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42015 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Possible future APES commentaries |
.htmlOdd, but not unlikely.
You remember we're dealing with a company that put it's 35th
Anniversary DVD for PLANET out a year after it's anniversary!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> It would be odd of them to miss such an anniversary. <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42016 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
.html
.html
I would have thought Buck was taller
Though now I think of it eh was short
for a gorilla. I have that same T-shirt
<.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42017 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: POTA at Memorabilia |
.html
.html
Who is Les Hemstock?
And where'd he make his money?
That's one amazing collection. I
doubt Ape Goat Billy's is any better.
All I get when I Google him is a DJ/Remixer.
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42018 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Don't shoot... |
.htmlI like that EPIC sounds big! LOL
On 5/7/07, aboro3085 <aboro3085@...> wrote:
Good God, how long are you planning on this story of your's running? ;0
Seriously, I was under the impression that it was just to be the story in Planet, not combining two of them?
Maybe Epic of the POTA would have been a better title?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the interest amigo! The BrokenSea production is taking place in the POTA timeframe but will run through the end of Beneath POTA.
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword...
Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.com The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk Planet of the Apes Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42019 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html.html
Oh yeah...DR Zaius has them on the Addar model, too. Cornelius is wearing sandals on his model!
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: aboro3085@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 1:47 AM
Subject: [POTA] Re: Is Fox nuts or what?
Yes, the gorillas boots are "split toed", just as you see on the Ursus
model (not "three toed" as incorrectly depicted on the MEGO figure.)
You'll also see the split toes boots on the orangutans when they are
wearing boots, and if my memory is correct, the chimpanzee prefects on
the TV show wear the split toes boots as well.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
> Sorry to say I never really looked at the gorillas' feet lol...but I
did look at the Addar model of Ursus and his boots are 'cloven" or
split like a hoof ..is that what the boots looked like in the films?
<.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42020 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.htmlThat's one thing I've never liked.
It's not so much that he is wearing sandals (personally if his feet had
to be exposed, I'd have preferred he was just plain bare-footed), but I
hate the way they made his feet "human-like". Regular ape shaped feet
would have been much better, and more accurate!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
Cornelius is wearing sandals on his model! <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42021 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/7/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.htmlBut would they have been more accurate?
Given the evolution of apes up to the
time of POTA would it not be likely that the shape of their feet changed
to match their change in posture and body shape?
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42022 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html
.html
In a message dated 5/7/2007 10:32:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
aboro3085@... writes:
That's
one thing I've never liked.
It's not so much that he is wearing sandals
(personally if his feet had to be exposed, I'd have preferred he was just
plain bare-footed) , but I hate the way they made his feet
"human-like" . Regular ape shaped feet would have been much better,
and more accurate!
Not to mention it was a pain in the neck to paint! Give me chimp shoes over
sandals any day.
Bruce
<.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42023 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.htmlIn a word: No.
Look at the films PLANET, BENEATH, and BATTLE as well as the TV
series: In all of those examples, the chimpanzees have their "hand
shaped" ape feet, that did not change, nor would it change.
BTW, the only reason the apes have a changed body shape is because
human beings played them. They did what they could at the time they
were made to change the form, but padding and back pieces can only do
so much.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> But would they have been more accurate?
>
> Given the evolution of apes up to the time of POTA would it not be
likely that the shape of their feet changed to match their change in
posture and body shape? <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42024 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Blu-Ray Review |
| Group: pota |
Message: 42025 |
From: Mark |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
| Group: pota |
Message: 42026 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Character Bio's |
|
.html Hi There,
Can anyone tell me where I can get full character bio's of Virdon,
Burke, Galen, Zaius and Urko from the TV Series, if they are available.
Thanks.
Peter. <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42027 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's |
.htmlPeter,
I would think that if they are available, they'd be on Kass's site,
https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ ...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi There,
>
> Can anyone tell me where I can get full character bio's of Virdon,
> Burke, Galen, Zaius and Urko from the TV Series, if they are
available.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Peter.
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42028 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/8/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply. |
.htmlHi Glen,
Yes thanks, but I've already seen Kass' stuff, but I was hoping to
have more info on the characters, more substance.
So if anyone else has any clues or surgestions, please let me know.
Thanks.
Peter.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" <HotScheetz@...> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> I would think that if they are available, they'd be on Kass's
site,
> https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ ...
>
> G
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi There,
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where I can get full character bio's of
Virdon,
> > Burke, Galen, Zaius and Urko from the TV Series, if they are
> available.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42029 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Mighty World of Marvel issue 241 |
.htmlIssue 241 is now available to download from Hunter's site, and we're back to 2 files. We're still following the Terror storyline, and some old friends of Jason and Alexander return in this issue. Thanks, Greg
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42030 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
.html
.html
In a message dated 5/8/2007 7:15:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rkid67@... writes:
I'll
wait for the 'Man Ray' edition.
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere.
Probably about Manta Rays or The Blue Man Group.
It may take some sifting to find it. But I don't mind
panning for gold. It's good right? Well worth the dig?
<.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42031 |
From: James |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply. |
.htmlPeter,
You may want to take a look at Mark's Central City Archive: http://www.hadleyburg.demon.co.uk/patv/pxf.htm. It has a lot of great stuff on the TV series.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@...> wrote: > > Hi Glen, > > Yes thanks, but I've already seen Kass' stuff, but I was hoping to > have more info on the characters, more substance. > > So if anyone else has any clues or surgestions, please let me know. > > Thanks. > > Peter. > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" HotScheetz@ wrote: > > > > Peter, > > > > I would think that if they are available, they'd be on Kass's > site, > > https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ ... > > > > G > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi There, > > >
> > > Can anyone tell me where I can get full character bio's of > Virdon, > > > Burke, Galen, Zaius and Urko from the TV Series, if they are > > available. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Peter. > > > > > >
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42032 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: L.A.Fire |
|
.html for anyone in Los Angeles....
Is the fire threatening Griffith Observatory anywhere
close to POTA film sites?? Am planning to visit them
all in August!
Tim
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42033 |
From: R E Zuleta |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.htmlThis maybe out of topic, but, in regards to the APE evolution over an
extended period of time (whether hundreds or thousands of years),
I've always assumed that apes would still be walking around with
arched backs, and supporting their weight with their arms and fists,
kinda like most mountain gorillas. Not walking bi-pedal, like man ...
unless they were geneticaly enginered - or cloned - that way.
And second, did any else remember hearing, or reading that at one
time, or point, during pre-production of "2001's POTA" they briefly
considered using 'CGI' apes, perhaps to make them appear more
realistic as animals, and not man in suits.
RE Zuleta
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> But would they have been more accurate?
>
> Given the evolution of apes up to the time of POTA would it not be
likely
> that the shape of their feet changed to match their change in
posture and
> body shape?
>
>
>
>
>
> The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received
this communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
designates an information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of
the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand
Limited.
> <.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42034 |
From: Glen |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: L.A.Fire |
.htmlTim,
No, they're some twenty-five miles (forty kilometers) away from each
other...The only location POTA connected that is threatened, is the LA
Zoo...
G
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
>
> for anyone in Los Angeles....
>
> Is the fire threatening Griffith Observatory anywhere
> close to POTA film sites?? Am planning to visit them
> all in August!
>
> Tim
>
>
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42035 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
.html
.html
In a message dated 5/9/2007 10:21:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:
In a message dated 5/8/2007 7:15:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rkid67@yahoo. com writes:
I'll
wait for the 'Man Ray' edition.
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere.
Probably about Manta Rays or The Blue Man Group.
It may take some sifting to find it. But I don't mind
panning for gold. It's good right? Well worth the dig?
Man Ray is the enemy of Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy on the Spongebob
Squarepants show.
Bruce <.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 42036 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
.html
Its another point of academic debate. You can either immerse yourself
in the POTA mythology and attempt to rationalise the changes, or you can
just accept that an actor in an ape suit is never going to look like a
chimpanzee.
I think that one of the (few) strong
points of the 2001 version was how they made some of the apes appear more
ape like in their movement and posture.
|
| "R E Zuleta" <re_zuleta@...>
Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
10/05/2007 09:12 a.m.
Please respond to pota
|
To:
pota@yahoogroups.com
cc:
Subject:
[POTA] Re: Is Fox nuts or what? |
This maybe out of topic, but, in regards to the APE
evolution over an
extended period of time (whether hundreds or thousands of years),
I've always assumed that apes would still be walking around with
arched backs, and supporting their weight with their arms and fists,
kinda like most mountain gorillas. Not walking bi-pedal, like man ...
unless they were geneticaly enginered - or cloned - that way.
And second, did any else remember hearing, or reading that at one
time, or point, during pre-production of "2001's POTA" they briefly
considered using 'CGI' apes, perhaps to make them appear more
realistic as animals, and not man in suits.
RE Zuleta
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> But would they have been more accurate?
>
> Given the evolution of apes up to the time of POTA would it not be
likely
> that the shape of their feet changed to match their change in
posture and
> body shape?
>
>
>
>
>
> The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received
this communication by mistake, please advise the sender immediately
and delete the message and any attachments. Nothing in this email
designates an information system for the purposes of Section 11(a) of
the New Zealand Electronic Transactions Act 2002. Westpac New Zealand
Limited.
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42037 |
From: paul_mannering@westpac.co.nz |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
.htmlCrabbypatties... I missed that.
I thought it was a reference to Blue Man Group....
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10/05/2007 10:44 a.m.
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Subject:
Re: [POTA] Re: Blu-Ray Review |
In a message dated 5/9/2007 10:21:58 A.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
In a message dated 5/8/2007 7:15:22 P.M.
Central Daylight Time, rkid67@... writes:
I'll wait for the 'Man Ray' edition.
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere.
Probably about Manta Rays or The Blue Man
Group.
It may take some sifting to find it. But
I don't mind
panning for gold. It's good right?
Well worth the dig?
Man Ray is the enemy of Mermaid Man and Barnacle
Boy on the Spongebob Squarepants show.
Bruce
See what's free at AOL.com.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42038 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#2. |
.htmlHi James,
Yes, I know about the website and I,ve looked at his material too.
But I still want more Information.
So I need information/websites I don't know about.
Regards.
Peter.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Peter,
>
> You may want to take a look at Mark's Central City Archive:
> http://www.hadleyburg.demon.co.uk/patv/pxf.htm
> <http://www.hadleyburg.demon.co.uk/patv/pxf.htm> . It has a lot of
great
> stuff on the TV series.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Glen,
> >
> > Yes thanks, but I've already seen Kass' stuff, but I was hoping
to
> > have more info on the characters, more substance.
> >
> > So if anyone else has any clues or surgestions, please let me
know.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" HotScheetz@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > I would think that if they are available, they'd be on Kass's
> > site,
> > > https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ ...
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63"
<peter_karsten63@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi There,
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me where I can get full character bio's of
> > Virdon,
> > > > Burke, Galen, Zaius and Urko from the TV Series, if they are
> > > available.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Peter.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42039 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#2. |
.html> Yes, I know about the website and I,ve looked at his material too.
> But I still want more Information.
It's not like the characters were that fleshed out.... I'd recommend
you watch the series. Everything there is to know about the
characters can be found there. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42040 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#3. |
.htmlHi Hunter,
This is true.
And I am surprised that after all these years that there are no
character bio's, considering how big the POTA fandom is.
We can discuss everything else but the actual characters themselves,
why is that?
In any case, it looks like this is an area that needs to be explored.
Thanks for your input.
Peter.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I know about the website and I,ve looked at his material too.
>
> > But I still want more Information.
>
> It's not like the characters were that fleshed out.... I'd recommend
> you watch the series. Everything there is to know about the
> characters can be found there.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42041 |
From: aboro3085 |
Date: 5/9/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#2. |
.htmlExactly what are you searching for?
Other than Mark's TV series info, there IS nothing "officially"
released pertaining to these characters. If anything does exist, it'd
all be fan-based anyhow, so it'd still be unofficial.
The novels (and bits of the TV series) mention that Burke is from New
Jersey, and Virdon is from Texas. There is no background on the apes.
If you're good at writing things, you might as well just write your
own bio's based on things you've read on the various sights, and seen
in the TV show itself.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> Yes, I know about the website and I,ve looked at his material too.
>
> But I still want more Information.
>
> So I need information/websites I don't know about.
>
> Regards.
>
> Peter.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > You may want to take a look at Mark's Central City Archive:
> > http://www.hadleyburg.demon.co.uk/patv/pxf.htm
> > <http://www.hadleyburg.demon.co.uk/patv/pxf.htm> . It has a lot
of
> great
> > stuff on the TV series.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Glen,
> > >
> > > Yes thanks, but I've already seen Kass' stuff, but I was hoping
> to
> > > have more info on the characters, more substance.
> > >
> > > So if anyone else has any clues or surgestions, please let me
> know.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Peter.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" HotScheetz@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Peter,
> > > >
> > > > I would think that if they are available, they'd be on Kass's
> > > site,
> > > > https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ ...
> > > >
> > > > G
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63"
> <peter_karsten63@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi There,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone tell me where I can get full character bio's of
> > > Virdon,
> > > > > Burke, Galen, Zaius and Urko from the TV Series, if they are
> > > > available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42042 |
From: peter_karsten63 |
Date: 5/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Character Bio's.Reply#4 |
.htmlHi aboro3085,
I thought there might be charscter bio's then the ones already known.
I was just interested to see if there were more info out there
pertaining to the charcters of the TV Series.
And quite frankly, I don't like your attitude, and that's putting it
nicely.
Regards.
Peter.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> Exactly what are you searching for?
>
> Other than Mark's TV series info, there IS nothing "officially"
> released pertaining to these characters. If anything does exist,
it'd
> all be fan-based anyhow, so it'd still be unofficial.
>
> The novels (and bits of the TV series) mention that Burke is from
New
> Jersey, and Virdon is from Texas. There is no background on the
apes.
>
> If you're good at writing things, you might as well just write
your
> own bio's based on things you've read on the various sights, and
seen
> in the TV show itself.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Yes, I know about the website and I,ve looked at his material
too.
> >
> > But I still want more Information.
> >
> > So I need information/websites I don't know about.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > You may want to take a look at Mark's Central City Archive:
> > > http://www.hadleyburg.demon.co.uk/patv/pxf.htm
> > > <http://www.hadleyburg.demon.co.uk/patv/pxf.htm> . It has a
lot
> of
> > great
> > > stuff on the TV series.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63"
<peter_karsten63@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Glen,
> > > >
> > > > Yes thanks, but I've already seen Kass' stuff, but I was
hoping
> > to
> > > > have more info on the characters, more substance.
> > > >
> > > > So if anyone else has any clues or surgestions, please let
me
> > know.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Peter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Glen" HotScheetz@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would think that if they are available, they'd be on
Kass's
> > > > site,
> > > > > https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ ...
> > > > >
> > > > > G
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63"
> > <peter_karsten63@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi There,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can anyone tell me where I can get full character bio's
of
> > > > Virdon,
> > > > > > Burke, Galen, Zaius and Urko from the TV Series, if they
are
> > > > > available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 42043 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/10/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-Ray Review |
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In a message dated 5/9/2007 4:47:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:
Man Ray
is the enemy of Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy on the Spongebob Squarepants
show.
I see.
I have seen Sponge Bob.
Just not those episodes.
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