--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > The fourth? I remember the classic 1956 version (with Kevin
McCarthy)
> > and the 1980's version with Donald Sunderland and Leonard Nimoy
(with
> > Kevin McCarthy having a bit role).
>
> 1978 (and Sutherland).
>
> > I can't remember another, please
> > refresh my memory.
>
> 1993's BODY SNATCHERS: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0106452/
>

> It only made $2 Million this
> weekend and it cost around $100 Million to make.

>
>
>
> Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
> 20/08/2007 08:03 a.m.
> Please respond to pota
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: (OT) Movie
> Reviews: 'The Invasion'
>
>
> > The fourth? I remember the classic 1956 version
> (with Kevin McCarthy)
> > and the 1980's version with Donald Sunderland and
> Leonard Nimoy (with
> > Kevin McCarthy having a bit role).
>
> 1978 (and Sutherland).
>
> > I can't remember another, please
> > refresh my memory.
>
> 1993's BODY SNATCHERS:
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0106452/
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> I'd forgotten about this film (I've heard of it but
> never saw it).
> Anybody know if it's any good?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley
> <goathunter@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The fourth? I remember the classic 1956 version
> (with Kevin
> McCarthy)
> > > and the 1980's version with Donald Sunderland
> and Leonard Nimoy
> (with
> > > Kevin McCarthy having a bit role).
> >
> > 1978 (and Sutherland).
> >
> > > I can't remember another, please
> > > refresh my memory.
> >
> > 1993's BODY SNATCHERS:
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0106452/
> >
>
>
>

Hey y'all! I'm back from the Star Trek Convention in Vegas, and believe it
or not, I DID find something that was POTA related! They had a large area
in the dealers' room where different guests were signing autographs. Most
of the guests there had small guest starring roles in the original Star Trek
episodes. Well, I was walking around and came across a small midget of a
man named Felix Silla. He had all these pictures of the various roles he
has played, and he had a pic of himself as an ape, and I asked him about it.
I'm not good about knowing the names of secondary characters, especially
when they have all the ape makeup on, but he played the little ape that sees
Taylor sneaking around when that memorial service is going on and says,
"It's a man!" I was flipping out to find somebody that had been in the
original POTA movie! So, I had to get the pic and autograph so I could
bring it back to share with y'all. I've attached it here. In a couple of
days, when I've downloaded my own pics, I'll post the picture of Felix I
took, as he looks today. Feel free to put either pic in the files section.

Melinda :-)

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Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 21/08/2007 07:55 a.m. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups.com         cc:                 Subject:        Re: [POTA] Re: (OT) Movie Reviews: 'The Invasion'

> It only made $2 Million this

> weekend and it cost around $100 Million to make.

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> ARe they the old cards? I am looking for some from
> the original "Thunderball" series.
> --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> > Not a whole lote of stuff......some toy cars and
> the
> > small figures...LOTS of trading cards! and press
> > material....
> >
> >
> > --- Shane Miller <masonverger12@...> wrote:
> >
> > > What kind of Bond stuff do you have? I have a
> big
> > > collection also.
> > >
> > > --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm keeping all my Ape stuff but selling
> > > EVERYTHING
> > > > else.....well....maybe not the Bond stuff just
> > > > yet....
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > --- LordTZer0@... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 8/6/2007 10:13:09 A.M.
> > > Central
> > > > > Daylight Time,
> > > > > readingrob@... writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > Most of my original collection went when I
> > was
> > > in
> > > > > my mid twenties when I
> > > > > started building a family. When I hit 41 I
> > > wanted
> > > > it
> > > > > all back.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It comes and goes.
> > > > > It depends on my other interests.
> > > > > I watch less anime as well, but
> > > > > I'm a sucker for a good story.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ************************************** Get a
> > > sneak
> > > > > peek of the all-new AOL at
> > > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

> I've got most of the first set with "dr. No",
> "Russia"
> and "Goldfinger" and also most of the "Thunderball"
> cards... then all the rest of the sets.....haven;t
> gotten Casino Royale yet!
>
> --- Shane Miller <masonverger12@...> wrote:
>
> > ARe they the old cards? I am looking for some
> from
> > the original "Thunderball" series.
> > --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Not a whole lote of stuff......some toy cars and
> > the
> > > small figures...LOTS of trading cards! and press
> > > material....
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Shane Miller <masonverger12@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What kind of Bond stuff do you have? I have a
> > big
> > > > collection also.
> > > >
> > > > --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm keeping all my Ape stuff but selling
> > > > EVERYTHING
> > > > > else.....well....maybe not the Bond stuff
> just
> > > > > yet....
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > --- LordTZer0@... wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 8/6/2007 10:13:09 A.M.
> > > > Central
> > > > > > Daylight Time,
> > > > > > readingrob@... writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most of my original collection went when
> I
> > > was
> > > > in
> > > > > > my mid twenties when I
> > > > > > started building a family. When I hit 41 I
> > > > wanted
> > > > > it
> > > > > > all back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It comes and goes.
> > > > > > It depends on my other interests.
> > > > > > I watch less anime as well, but
> > > > > > I'm a sucker for a good story.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ************************************** Get
> a
> > > > sneak
> > > > > > peek of the all-new AOL at
> > > > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Wow for a paper model that really looks great. Did Lance design it himself?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to Lance Brick, instructions and image files to let you create
> an awesome paper model of ICARUS (the PotA spacecraft) have been added
> to my PotA site.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Army Archard the Variety reporter has a deep
> connection with POTA....he appeared as extras in the
> first two (I believe) and was the boxing referee in
> Escape!
> During my recent trip to LA, this happened to be in a
> copy of Daily Variety! Thought it was interesting!
> I'll put it in the files too!
>
> I still have to report on my whole site scouting trip!
> Just have to get the time and compile pics!
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> ________________________> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

Only saw the pilot. No rocketships. No Dr. Zarkoff. And Ming is played by a guy with blond hair. Looks more like an aging surfer dude.

It's like doing a remake of POTA with no Cornelius & Zira and a washed up pop star in Heston's roll....oh!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> I know this is not POTA related.. But is anyone watching the new Flash Gordon on SCI FI?
> Dave NYC..
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Building a website is a piece of cake.
> Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
>

> Wow for a paper model that really looks great. Did Lance design it
> himself?

There have been some great upgrades made in One Sheets of the Group Website.

The Lobby Cards for all 5 original films have been replaced with new hi-res versions. And some of them are really beautiful.

Also, several of the Insert Cards, Door Panels, Window Cards and Half Sheets have been upgraded to hi-res versions as well.

The Group Website can be accessed by clicking the banner on the group's Yahoo home page (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/).

Those who may have trouble accessing it there can use the mirror site: http://www.freewebs.com/planetoftheapes/

Bye!

On 8/21/07, stephen_miller_99 <Stephen_Miller_99@...> wrote:

A new challenge for ANSA/Icarus fans. How about writing up a history
of the ANSA space program pre-1972? We have covered the Icarus
interstellar program enough but we can speculate on the early days of
ANSA and their orbital, lunar, Mars, and deep space programs and early
vehicles such as Icarus prototypes,among others.
Any proposals and write-ups to post?
Thanks.

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Only saw the pilot. No rocketships. No Dr. Zarkoff. And Ming is
played
> by a guy with blond hair. Looks more like an aging surfer dude.
>
> It's like doing a remake of POTA with no Cornelius & Zira and a
washed
> up pop star in Heston's roll....oh!
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@> wrote:
> >
> > I know this is not POTA related.. But is anyone watching the new
Flash
> Gordon on SCI FI?
> > Dave NYC..
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Building a website is a piece of cake.
> > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
> >
>

On 8/21/07, colin_d_snow <colindsnow@...> wrote:

Hey, Colin here from BrokenSea. I was coaxed here by Bill. You know me
as Random Gorillas in the AD. *Waves and migrates to the back of the room*

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

The basic outline has been done: https://pota.goatley.com/misc/briefing-dossier.pdf. Check out page 4. It would be great to flesh it out with more details.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "stephen_miller_99" <Stephen_Miller_99@...> wrote:
>
> A new challenge for ANSA/Icarus fans. How about writing up a history
> of the ANSA space program pre-1972? We have covered the Icarus
> interstellar program enough but we can speculate on the early days of
> ANSA and their orbital, lunar, Mars, and deep space programs and early
> vehicles such as Icarus prototypes,among others.
> Any proposals and write-ups to post?
> Thanks.
>

Hey Colin,

Nice to have you aboard. And don't be afraid to speak up from the back of the room. It's pretty crowded back there already.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "colin_d_snow" <colindsnow@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, Colin here from BrokenSea. I was coaxed here by Bill. You know me
> as Random Gorillas in the AD. *Waves and migrates to the back of the room*
>

On 8/21/07, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

The basic outline has been done: https://pota.goatley.com/misc/briefing-dossier.pdf . Check out page 4. It would be great to flesh it out with more details.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "stephen_miller_99" <Stephen_Miller_99@...> wrote:
>
> A new challenge for ANSA/Icarus fans. How about writing up a history
> of the ANSA space program pre-1972? We have covered the Icarus
> interstellar program enough but we can speculate on the early days of
> ANSA and their orbital, lunar, Mars, and deep space programs and early
> vehicles such as Icarus prototypes,among others.
> Any proposals and write-ups to post?
> Thanks.
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "stephen_miller_99" <Stephen_Miller_99@>
> wrote:
> >
> > A new challenge for ANSA/Icarus fans. How about writing up a

> > of the ANSA space program pre-1972? We have covered the Icarus
> > interstellar program enough but we can speculate on the early days

> > ANSA and their orbital, lunar, Mars, and deep space programs and

> > vehicles such as Icarus prototypes,among others.
> > Any proposals and write-ups to post?
> > Thanks.
> >
>

By Borys Kit Tue Aug 21, 2:37 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - "Logan's Run" is back up and running at Warner Bros. Pictures.

Commercials veteran Joseph Kosinski will make his directorial debut on the sci-fi thriller, which has been in the works at the studio since the mid-'90s.

"Logan's Run" is best remembered as the 1976 film starring Michael York, Jenny Agutter and Farrah Fawcett, though it was based on a 1967 novel by William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson. The premise sees a future society that demands the death of everyone upon reaching a certain age. Anyone who veers from that destiny is dubbed a "runner" and is hunted by operatives known as Sandmen. Logan is a Sandman who is forced to go on the run.

While details of the new take are being kept under wraps, it is known that it will be low-tech science fiction in a futuristic setting and hew closer to the book than the 1976 movie. The new film will tackle idea of the "greater good" and people devoting themselves to an ideology blindly, while keeping the novel's concepts of runners, Sanctuary and gangs outside the system.

The project heated up at Warner Bros. in 2004 when Bryan Singer signed on to direct. He then bolted to do "Superman Returns." Robert Schwenke ("Flightplan") and James McTeigue ("V For Vendetta") were also associated with the project at various times.

Kosinski is a former architect whose specs caught the attention of "Fight Club" director David Fincher, a building buff who eventually convinced Kosinski to move to Los Angeles and make commercials. Kosinski went on to make award-winning spots for Nike, Apple and Nintendo using cutting-edge computer technology that erased the lines between reality and CGI.

Kosinski came into Warners with a presentation that included graphic art and animated previsualization that set the look, color, tone and style of the movie he wanted to make. The take jibed with Warners, now living in the post-"300" world where filmmakers can create realistic environments at more modest budgets.

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

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>
> This sounds interesting. I've always wanted to figure out just

> what "ANSA" was versus "NASA". I think I'll take a shot at this...
>

> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "stephen_miller_99"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > A new challenge for ANSA/Icarus fans. How about writing up a
> history
> > > of the ANSA space program pre-1972? We have covered the Icarus
> > > interstellar program enough but we can speculate on the early

> of
> > > ANSA and their orbital, lunar, Mars, and deep space programs

> early
> > > vehicles such as Icarus prototypes,among others.
> > > Any proposals and write-ups to post?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> >
>

In Escape the President mentions that Taylor's ship was being examined by NASA. So NASA exists in the POTA universe. Are you saying that America had 2 space agencies, NASA and ANSA? If that is the case, what would be the role of each? And if Taylor's ship was an ANSA spacecraft, why would NASA be the agency examining it?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "stephen_miller_99" <Stephen_Miller_99@...> wrote:
> >
> I think the scenario in Hunter's dossier is interesting though I
> prefer to think of ANSA standing for American National Space
> Administration. I would like to hear other people discuss their
> views of ANSA and its early days too and proposed vehicles.
> I am sure that in the 1960s, ANSA had some interesting orbital
> vehicles, space stations, and Mars landers.
> Any comments and proposals to discuss?
>

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That makes sense.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> I like the idea of ANSA being a more secret development of US space
> exploration.
>
> Perhaps with more of a military involvement. Technology being developed
> under highest secrecy to prevent it being covertly stolen by the Soviets.
>
>
> I will have to study the dossier (which I have skimmed through previously)
> and then submit my ideas for further backstory.
>
>
>
>
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>

>
> I like the idea of ANSA being a more secret development of US space
> exploration.
>
> Perhaps with more of a military involvement. Technology being

> under highest secrecy to prevent it being covertly stolen by the

>
>
> I will have to study the dossier (which I have skimmed through

> and then submit my ideas for further backstory.
>
>
>
>
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"James" <JamesA1102@...> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 22/08/2007 11:07 a.m. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups.com         cc:                 Subject:        [POTA] Re: ANSA Space Program History

That makes sense.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:

>
> I like the idea of ANSA being a more secret development of US space
> exploration.
>
> Perhaps with more of a military involvement. Technology being developed
> under highest secrecy to prevent it being covertly stolen by the Soviets.
>
>
> I will have to study the dossier (which I have skimmed through previously)
> and then submit my ideas for further backstory.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Paul Mannering
> Email Support Coordinator
> Tel: 0800 400 600 (Xtn: 91608)
> DDI: +64 3 372 4608
> Fax: +64 3 372 4680
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>
>
>
> The contents of this e-mail are confidential. If you have received

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Furthermore consider military involvement at the recovery of the
space
> ship piloted by apes.
>
> Not Airforce - but ARMY. That would suggest a military connection
where
> NASA has more of an association with the airforce. What if the Army
was
> developing their own technology with a military purpose - and that
> included breakthroughs in space technology allowing similar funding
and
> experimentation as NASA but under a different branch (ANSA).

My apologies, but it was the Marines, not the Army, who recovered the ship. The Marines are part of the Navy which was responsible for recovering all NASA spacecraft until the Space Shuttle.

While I like the idea of ANSA being a branch of NASA (which would explain why the President said NASA was examining the ship), knowing Taylor's anti-war feelings expressed at the beginning of Planet; it doesn't make sense to me that he would be part of an agency that was militarizing space. ANSA being a branch of NASA responsible for developing interstellar travel just is far more logical.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Furthermore consider military involvement at the recovery of the space
> ship piloted by apes.
>
> Not Airforce - but ARMY. That would suggest a military connection where
> NASA has more of an association with the airforce. What if the Army was
> developing their own technology with a military purpose - and that
> included breakthroughs in space technology allowing similar funding and
> experimentation as NASA but under a different branch (ANSA).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Paul Mannering
> Email Support Coordinator
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "James" JamesA1102@...
> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
> 22/08/2007 11:07 a.m.
> Please respond to pota
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: [POTA] Re: ANSA Space Program History
>
>
> That makes sense.
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> >
> > I like the idea of ANSA being a more secret development of US space
> > exploration.
> >
> > Perhaps with more of a military involvement. Technology being developed
> > under highest secrecy to prevent it being covertly stolen by the
> Soviets.
> >
> >
> > I will have to study the dossier (which I have skimmed through
> previously)
> > and then submit my ideas for further backstory.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Paul Mannering
> > Email Support Coordinator
> > Tel: 0800 400 600 (Xtn: 91608)
> > DDI: +64 3 372 4608
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>
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ANSA would recruit personnel from the USAF, Navy, and Army and the USMC
and there would be various operations and services within ANSA for the
branches to do.  Remember, Colonel George Taylor was Air Force, of
course.
The Army had a proposed lunar base plan in the 1950s called Project
Horizon as well.
Any write-ups and proposals from group members on ANSA?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Furthermore consider military involvement at the recovery of the
space
> ship piloted by apes.
>
> Not Airforce - but ARMY.  That would suggest a military connection
where
> NASA has more of an association with the airforce.  What if the Army
was
> developing their own technology with a military purpose - and that
> included breakthroughs in space technology allowing similar funding
and
> experimentation as NASA but under a different branch (ANSA).





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My apologies, but it was the Marines, not the Army, who recovered the ship. The Marines are part of the Navy which was responsible for recovering all NASA spacecraft until the Space Shuttle.

While I like the idea of ANSA being a branch of NASA (which would explain why the President said NASA was examining the ship), knowing Taylor's anti-war feelings expressed at the beginning of Planet; it doesn't make sense to me that he would be part of an agency that was militarizing space. ANSA being a branch of NASA responsible for developing interstellar travel just is far more logical.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:

>
> Furthermore consider military involvement at the recovery of the space
> ship piloted by apes.
>
> Not Airforce - but ARMY. That would suggest a military connection

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Good points! Maybe that's why Taylor chose to leave earth rather than stay and be part of the problem.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Ok. Hey guys in green uniforms all look the same to me :-)
>
> Well then what if ANSA was the military arm of NASA? Perhaps they
> operated under the public radar by appearing as NASA (and indeed as you
> say being connected with them).
>
> Nothing about Taylor's attitude to anything suggests that he had anything
> positive to say about anything. Maybe it was his involvement with ANSA
> that made him so cynical and bitter about so much? Including the concept
> of war?
>
> After all - the final scene indicates that he was acutely aware of the
> potential for global destruction (perhaps he had a reason to be more
> concerned than the rest of us?).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "James" JamesA1102@...
> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com
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> Please respond to pota
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: [POTA] Re: ANSA Space Program History
>
>
> My apologies, but it was the Marines, not the Army, who recovered the
> ship. The Marines are part of the Navy which was responsible for
> recovering all NASA spacecraft until the Space Shuttle.
> While I like the idea of ANSA being a branch of NASA (which would explain
> why the President said NASA was examining the ship), knowing Taylor's
> anti-war feelings expressed at the beginning of Planet; it doesn't make
> sense to me that he would be part of an agency that was militarizing
> space. ANSA being a branch of NASA responsible for developing interstellar
> travel just is far more logical.
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> >
> > Furthermore consider military involvement at the recovery of the space
> > ship piloted by apes.
> >
> > Not Airforce - but ARMY. That would suggest a military connection where
> > NASA has more of an association with the airforce. What if the Army was
> > developing their own technology with a military purpose - and that
> > included breakthroughs in space technology allowing similar funding and
> > experimentation as NASA but under a different branch (ANSA).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Paul Mannering
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> >
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> > "James" JamesA1102@
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> >
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > cc:
> > Subject: [POTA] Re: ANSA Space Program History
> >
> >
> > That makes sense.
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the idea of ANSA being a more secret development of US space
> > > exploration.
> > >
> > > Perhaps with more of a military involvement. Technology being
> developed
> > > under highest secrecy to prevent it being covertly stolen by the
> > Soviets.
> > >
> > >
> > > I will have to study the dossier (which I have skimmed through
> > previously)
> > > and then submit my ideas for further backstory.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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You are correct sir!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I forget her name (too lazy to go look it up) but the woman who played Zelda
> in CONQUEST was also a Hollywood columnist. Joyce Haber or something.
>
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Good points! Maybe that's why Taylor chose to leave earth rather than stay and be part of the problem.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Ok. Hey guys in green uniforms all look the same to me :-)
>
> Well then what if ANSA was the military arm of NASA? Perhaps they
> operated under the public radar by appearing as NASA (and indeed as you
> say being connected with them).
>
> Nothing about Taylor's attitude to anything suggests that he had anything
> positive to say about anything. Maybe it was his involvement with ANSA
> that made him so cynical and bitter about so much? Including the concept
> of war?
>
> After all - the final scene indicates that he was acutely aware of the
> potential for global destruction (perhaps he had a reason to be more
> concerned than the rest of us?).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "James" JamesA1102@...
> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups .com
> 22/08/2007 11:54 a.m.
> Please respond to pota
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: [POTA] Re: ANSA Space Program History
>
>
> My apologies, but it was the Marines, not the Army, who recovered the
> ship. The Marines are part of the Navy which was responsible for
> recovering all NASA spacecraft until the Space Shuttle.
> While I like the idea of ANSA being a branch of NASA (which would explain
> why the President said NASA was examining the ship), knowing Taylor's
> anti-war feelings expressed at the beginning of Planet; it doesn't make
> sense to me that he would be part of an agency that was militarizing
> space. ANSA being a branch of NASA responsible for developing interstellar
> travel just is far more logical.
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> >
> > Furthermore consider military involvement at the recovery of the space
> > ship piloted by apes.
> >
> > Not Airforce - but ARMY. That would suggest a military connection where
> > NASA has more of an association with the airforce. What if the Army was
> > developing their own technology with a military purpose - and that
> > included breakthroughs in space technology allowing similar funding and
> > experimentation as NASA but under a different branch (ANSA).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Paul Mannering
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "James" JamesA1102@
> > Sent by: pota@yahoo groups.com
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> > Please respond to pota
> >
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > cc:
> > Subject: [POTA] Re: ANSA Space Program History
> >
> >
> > That makes sense.
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the idea of ANSA being a more secret development of US space
> > > exploration.
> > >
> > > Perhaps with more of a military involvement. Technology being
> developed
> > > under highest secrecy to prevent it being covertly stolen by the
> > Soviets.
> > >
> > >
> > > I will have to study the dossier (which I have skimmed through
> > previously)
> > > and then submit my ideas for further backstory.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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It makes sense. I just think it is more logical that ANSA was a branch of NASA responsible for either developing interstellar travel or perhaps responsible for the colonization rather than the militarization of space.

 

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It makes sense. I just think it is more logical that ANSA was a branch of NASA responsible for either developing interstellar travel or perhaps responsible for the colonization rather than the militarization of space.

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>
> I would assume Taylor became more cynical and pessimistic with life

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>
> Taylor is such a great character - there could be a real mine of
backstory to develop on how he lost his faith in man, the military
the government and his belief in might is right.

 

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To:        PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com         cc:                 Subject:        [POTA] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

In a message dated 8/21/2007 11:34:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:


www.aintitcool.com says Warner Bros. is moving ahead with their remake of "Logan's Run". What's interesting is they've got the writer of the solid sci-fi flick "Children of Men" and a first-time director, Joseph Kosinski. Fans have been saying Fox should hand off POTA to some visionary fresh talent. Once again if an expensive but literate science fiction movie can break out and be a hit (as opposed to the "Independence Day" crap) the studios might get a clue.


An expensive but literate science fiction film?!!!!

I fear "Hollywood" has forgotten how to even try to make them.  I doubt this new LOGAN'S RUN will be that good.  For one, the story is now dated!

-- Rory


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So yes, he is diametrically opposed to characters like Ursus.  

I agree that Taylor may have always been a real prick, but he clearly had enough of the "Right Stuff" to get on the mission.

It would give the character depth to chronicle what formed his views.

 Im sure Bill has some ideas, but this discussion has so far had no relationship to the audio drama.  It was more around the film chronology and The Dossier information.

"aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 22/08/2007 01:06 P.M. Please respond to pota

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Who is to say there is any instance where Taylor "lost his faith in
man"? It doesn't take much to see that he was probably always a
pessimist, as there really are people that do not care for humanity
or the human condition and there is nothing that made them that way,
they just are that way.

What makes you say that Taylor thinks "might is right", that's more
of General Ursus' thing.

Finally, as far as the backstory itself goes, I thought Bill had that
all sewn up?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:
>
> Taylor is such a great character - there could be a real mine of
backstory to develop on how he lost his faith in man, the military
the government and his belief in might is right.





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In a message dated 8/21/2007 4:18:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, paul_mannering@... writes:


Kosinski came into Warners with a presentation that included graphic art and animated previsualization that set the look, color, tone and style of the movie he wanted to make. The take jibed with Warners, now living in the post-"300" world where filmmakers can create realistic environments at more modest budgets.



I just want to say that I watched 300 on DVD not long ago...

HATED IT!

I'd rather watch the old Fox film 300 SPARTANS.  Give me real photography!

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>
> James Bacon is another Hollywood columnist that
> appeared in all five
> films. He played General Faulkner in Escape and
> various background apes
> in the other films.
>
> This really shows Jacob's genius for publicity. Both
> Archard's and
> Bacon's columns were syndicated to newspapers across
> the country. Having
> them appear in the films was a great way to generate
> positive word of
> mouth.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> >
> > Army Archard the Variety reporter has a deep
> > connection with POTA....he appeared as extras in
> the
> > first two (I believe) and was the boxing referee
> in
> > Escape!
> > During my recent trip to LA, this happened to be
> in a
> > copy of Daily Variety! Thought it was interesting!
> > I'll put it in the files too!
> >
> > I still have to report on my whole site scouting
> trip!
> > Just have to get the time and compile pics!
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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>
> I would be interested in seeing other people's ideas on ANSA and its
> early missions. I prefer to think of ANSA as the military space
> program and NASA the civilian one. I am sure ANSA's space stations
> and lunar bases could have military applications as well. Remember,
> before Project Mercury, there was the planned X-20 Dynasoar and the
> Army's Project Horizon moonbase proposal and the USAF LUNEX program.

This is where this theory breaks down for me. If ANSA flights were secret, then how did everyone know about them in Escape. The news broadcasts in that film show that both the American public and the world at large knew about Taylor's and Brent's missions and their disappearance.

Plus if Taylor's flight was meant to be for military purposes, why didn't they have more weapons onboard? Their survial kits only had one pistol with 30 rounds of ammo. Surely a military mission would be better armed. And Brent didn't have any weapons at all.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote:
>
> That's exactly how I see it. NASA is the civilian side (although in
> the beginning it had to use military pilots) while ANSA was the
> (unacknoledged) military side doing things that the US wanted to keep
> very much out of the public eye.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> This is where this theory breaks down for me. If ANSA flights were
> secret, then how did everyone know about them in Escape. The news
> broadcasts in that film show that both the American public and the
world
> at large knew about Taylor's and Brent's missions and their
> disappearance.
>
> Plus if Taylor's flight was meant to be for military purposes, why
> didn't they have more weapons onboard? Their survial kits only had
one
> pistol with 30 rounds of ammo. Surely a military mission would be
better
> armed. And Brent didn't have any weapons at all.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> >
> > That's exactly how I see it. NASA is the civilian side (although
in
> > the beginning it had to use military pilots) while ANSA was the
> > (unacknoledged) military side doing things that the US wanted to
keep
> > very much out of the public eye.
> >
>

 

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In a message dated 8/21/2007 9:44:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, paul_mannering@... writes:


The script is renewed.


You mean like what they did to people in the movie?

-- Rory


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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote:
>
> I hadn't thought of that at all. Your right, the theory does
indeed
> break down here...
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > This is where this theory breaks down for me. If ANSA flights
were
> > secret, then how did everyone know about them in Escape. The news
> > broadcasts in that film show that both the American public and
the
> world
> > at large knew about Taylor's and Brent's missions and their
> > disappearance.
> >
> > Plus if Taylor's flight was meant to be for military purposes,
why
> > didn't they have more weapons onboard? Their survial kits only
had
> one
> > pistol with 30 rounds of ammo. Surely a military mission would
be
> better
> > armed. And Brent didn't have any weapons at all.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's exactly how I see it. NASA is the civilian side
(although
> in
> > > the beginning it had to use military pilots) while ANSA was the
> > > (unacknoledged) military side doing things that the US wanted
to
> keep
> > > very much out of the public eye.
> > >
> >
>

 

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This is where this theory breaks down for me. If ANSA flights were secret, then how did everyone know about them in Escape. The news broadcasts in that film show that both the American public and the world at large knew about Taylor's and Brent's missions and their disappearance.

Plus if Taylor's flight was meant to be for military purposes, why didn't they have more weapons onboard? Their survial kits only had one pistol with 30 rounds of ammo. Surely a military mission would be better armed. And Brent didn't have any weapons at all.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote:
>
> That's exactly how I see it. NASA is the civilian side (although in
> the beginning it had to use military pilots) while ANSA was the
> (unacknoledged) military side doing things that the US wanted to keep
> very much out of the public eye.
>

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"eltf177" <eltf177@...> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 23/08/2007 07:45 a.m. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups.com         cc:                 Subject:        [POTA] Re: ANSA Space Program History

How about this:

NASA's jurisdiction is the solar system, satellites, etc. ANSA's
goal is manned flight outside the solar system and the development
of faster-than-light drives.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote:
>
> I hadn't thought of that at all. Your right, the theory does
indeed
> break down here...
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > This is where this theory breaks down for me. If ANSA flights
were
> > secret, then how did everyone know about them in Escape. The news
> > broadcasts in that film show that both the American public and
the
> world
> > at large knew about Taylor's and Brent's missions and their
> > disappearance.
> >
> > Plus if Taylor's flight was meant to be for military purposes,
why
> > didn't they have more weapons onboard? Their survial kits only
had
> one
> > pistol with 30 rounds of ammo. Surely a military mission would
be
> better
> > armed. And Brent didn't have any weapons at all.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's exactly how I see it. NASA is the civilian side
(although
> in
> > > the beginning it had to use military pilots) while ANSA was the
> > > (unacknoledged) military side doing things that the US wanted
to
> keep
> > > very much out of the public eye.
> > >
> >
>





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Yes.  After all it is 30 years old :-)

Haristas@aol. com Sent by: pota@yahoogroups. com 23/08/2007 06:23 a.m. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups. com         cc:                 Subject:        [POTA] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

In a message dated 8/21/2007 9:44:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, paul_mannering@ westpac.co. nz writes:


The script is renewed.


You mean like what they did to people in the movie?

-- Rory


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That works for me!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote:
>
> How about this:
>
> NASA's jurisdiction is the solar system, satellites, etc. ANSA's
> goal is manned flight outside the solar system and the development
> of faster-than-light drives.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" eltf177@ wrote:
> >
> > I hadn't thought of that at all. Your right, the theory does
> indeed
> > break down here...
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is where this theory breaks down for me. If ANSA flights
> were
> > > secret, then how did everyone know about them in Escape. The news
> > > broadcasts in that film show that both the American public and
> the
> > world
> > > at large knew about Taylor's and Brent's missions and their
> > > disappearance.
> > >
> > > Plus if Taylor's flight was meant to be for military purposes,
> why
> > > didn't they have more weapons onboard? Their survial kits only
> had
> > one
> > > pistol with 30 rounds of ammo. Surely a military mission would
> be
> > better
> > > armed. And Brent didn't have any weapons at all.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's exactly how I see it. NASA is the civilian side
> (although
> > in
> > > > the beginning it had to use military pilots) while ANSA was the
> > > > (unacknoledged) military side doing things that the US wanted
> to
> > keep
> > > > very much out of the public eye.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

*squeak of horror*  You think they would dare change the style?   Noooo!

 

jose ramon <joseramonruizdiez@...> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 23/08/2007 08:49 a.m. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups.com         cc:                 Subject:        Re: [POTA] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

Call me freaky, but I can not imagine Logan in other costume than the black one with the white stripe, and Jessica in the sexy green dress. Also the Disco look is compulsory.
JR

paul_mannering@... wrote:

Yes.  After all it is 30 years old :-)

Haristas@... Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 23/08/2007 06:23 a.m. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups.com        cc:                Subject:        [POTA] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

In a message dated 8/21/2007 9:44:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, paul_mannering@... writes:


The script is renewed.


You mean like what they did to people in the movie?

-- Rory


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In a message dated 8/21/2007 10:10:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@aol. com writes:

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, David Giwner <bikergator25@ ...> wrote:
>
> I know this is not POTA related.. But is anyone watching the new Flash Gordon on SCI FI?
> Dave NYC..

I thought it sucked.  As soon as I saw that it wasn't going to be like the old 1930's serials -- penis-shaped spaceships and man in tights -- I said, PASS!   The old stuff is campy, but that's FLASH GORDON to me!

-- Rory


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Only saw the pilot. No rocketships. No Dr. Zarkoff. And Ming is played by a guy with blond hair. Looks more like an aging surfer dude.

It's like doing a remake of POTA with no Cornelius & Zira and a washed up pop star in Heston's roll....oh!

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, David Giwner <bikergator25@ ...> wrote:
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> I know this is not POTA related.. But is anyone watching the new Flash Gordon on SCI FI?
> Dave NYC..
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I agree...I loved the campy 80's movie and it was a ball to watch!
This was...Not sure...I am gonna give it a second chance...The Ming
with hair thing was a shock...

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "James" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> Only saw the pilot. No rocketships. No Dr. Zarkoff. And Ming is
played
> by a guy with blond hair. Looks more like an aging surfer dude.
>
> It's like doing a remake of POTA with no Cornelius & Zira and a
washed
> up pop star in Heston's roll....oh!
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, David Giwner <bikergator25@ > wrote:
> >
> > I know this is not POTA related.. But is anyone watching the new
Flash
> Gordon on SCI FI?
> > Dave NYC..
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ---
> > Building a website is a piece of cake.
> > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
> >
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ; pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:21 PM

Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

In a message dated 8/21/2007 11:34:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:

www.aintitcool. com says Warner Bros. is moving ahead with their remake of "Logan's Run". What's interesting is they've got the writer of the solid sci-fi flick "Children of Men" and a first-time director, Joseph Kosinski. Fans have been saying Fox should hand off POTA to some visionary fresh talent. Once again if an expensive but literate science fiction movie can break out and be a hit (as opposed to the "Independence Day" crap) the studios might get a clue.

An expensive but literate science fiction film?!!!!

I fear "Hollywood" has forgotten how to even try to make them.  I doubt this new LOGAN'S RUN will be that good.  For one, the story is now dated!

-- Rory


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> I just had to ask this question to you. Was Paula Christ there at

> convention. I heard that she was on several episodes of STNG.
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> Kevin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melinda G Kettler <mgkettler@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 9:57 pm
> Subject: [POTA] Re: Back From The Convention
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> That works for me!
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> >
> > How about this:
> >
> > NASA's jurisdiction is the solar system, satellites, etc. ANSA's
> > goal is manned flight outside the solar system and the development
> > of faster-than-light drives.

Cool! I was just there in July. Which did you like better the TNG ride or the Borg ride?

BTW You do know that Las Vegas is the future site of Central City.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Melinda G Kettler" <mgkettler@...> wrote:
>
> James, I'm sorry for the delay in answering your post. Being gone for a
> week at the convention put me terribly far behind in reading all the posts
> from all my various groups! To answer your question, yes the Star Trek
> Convention was at the Hilton. It was a huge convention. I went to the Star
> Trek Experience, and it was one of the coolest things I've ever done! I
> LOVED it!
>
> Melinda
>
> 5c. Re: Back From Star Trek Convention
> Posted by: "James" JamesA1102@... jamesa1102
> Date: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:06 am ((PDT))
>
> Thanks so much for sharing this with us Melinda! I was in Vegas (future
> site of Central City) last month. Went to the Star Trek Experience at
> the Hilton. Was the convention there?
>

Nothing to be sorry about. I agree with what you said.

Great minds think alike! LOL

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry I hadn't read your post before I posted, sorry to step on your
> toes!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" JamesA1102@ wrote:
> >
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> > That works for me!
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "eltf177" <eltf177@> wrote:
> > >
> > > How about this:
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> > > NASA's jurisdiction is the solar system, satellites, etc. ANSA's
> > > goal is manned flight outside the solar system and the development
> > > of faster-than-light drives.
>

> While details of the new take are being kept under wraps, it is
> known that it will be low-tech science fiction in a futuristic
> setting and hew closer to the book than the 1976 movie.

>

> I just had to ask this question to you. Was Paula Christ there at

> convention. I heard that she was on several episodes of STNG.

>

> Kevin

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Melinda G Kettler <mgkettler@...>

> To: pota@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 9:57 pm

> Subject: [POTA] Re: Back From The Convention

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"mikelnorwitz" <blaklion@...> Sent by: pota@yahoogroups.com 24/08/2007 05:34 a.m. Please respond to pota

To:        pota@yahoogroups.com         cc:                 Subject:        [POTA] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@... wrote:

> While details of the new take are being kept under wraps, it is
> known that it will be low-tech science fiction in a futuristic
> setting and hew closer to the book than the 1976 movie.

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