However, if you are refering to the 'Aged Galen' bumpers that Roddy did for ABC stations showing the TV Movies, they can be found on Kassidy's site: https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/galenslastappearance.html"

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Leo,
>
> Actually, there were five TV movies, and you can get them all on
> bootleg DVD at http://www.kingego.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=30&. They're
> charging $15 per movie, or $50 for all five. Mind you, these movies
> are not new material -- they're just edited from the TV show episodes.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> At 02:48 AM 9/3/2007, you wrote:
> >____________> >
> >1. TV Movies
> > Posted by: "Leo Seddon" bsherwood@... leo_seddon
> > Date: Sun Sep 2, 2007 9:39 am ((PDT))
> >
> >Hi.
> >Anyone know of anyone who has full media clips of the two Planet of the
> >Apes Tv Movies from 1980? or is there a rare DvD of them?
> >

Wow! According to the Google map that theater was on West 51st and Broadway. I'm very familiar with that area (my grandmother lived on West 51st until the mid-70s and I use to work on 53rd for a few years) but never knew there was a movie theater there. There has been an office building there for as long as I can remember.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I just found this site on movie theatres and it has a small picture of the
> old, long demolished, Capital Theatre in New York City, where PLANET OF THE APES
> premiered on February 8, 1968. The picture unfortunately shows the marquee
> for what opened there right after PLANET did, 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, but you
> can scroll down and read comments from people who actually saw PLANET there in
> 1968. Kind of neat.
>
> http://cinematreasures.org/theater/522/
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new
> AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>

Thanks. This is a better list than the one EW did. I don't think anyone there has seen any movies made before 1990.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Melinda G Kettler" <mgkettler@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know if this has already been posted (I am so far behind on all my
> messages), but Premiere has an article about the 20 biggest plot twists. Go
> to this link and click on photo gallery. POTA is the first movie to come up
> on the list. :-)
>
> http://www.premiere.com/features/4042/20-big-time-plot-twists
>
> Melinda
>

Me either. Just refuse to have the damn thing in the house. Afraid it will stink up the place.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I saw the DVD on sale for about 5 dollars and I STILL didn't buy it!
> Bruce?
>
>

One thing I forgot to mention, we'll make up the winner's idea and post it on the Group's Yahoo home page over the weekend.

Cut off to submit an entry is Friday morning at 10AM (EST).

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Good morning everyone! Today is our group's 9th Birthday.
>
> I'm sure most of you remember what a heady time it was for POTA fans 9
> years ago this week; the 30th Anniversary was being celebrated, James
> Cameron was doing the remake and AMC was was hosting a Labor Day weekend
> marathon of the original films with the premiere of the 'Behind'
> documentary. It was during this POTA renaissance that Dave Pasco founded
> this group.
>
> I'd like to thank our great moderating crew; Glen, Mark, Dave, John and
> Donna for all their hard work in keeping this place running these past
> few year. And thank all of you for making this the best POTA group on
> the web.
>
> To thank you all even further we are having our annual Birthday Contest.
> This year is really easy too. No trivia quiz. No hunting for special
> icons on web pages. Just something fun & simple.
>
> As those of you who visit the Yahoo home page
> (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/> ) know, we usually feature
> a POTA related picture with a funny caption or word balloon. Sometimes
> we add funny objects or add characters from the Simpsons or other shows.
> Anyway, there is currently a pic from Planet with no caption, word
> balloon or addition. We are going to ask you to come up with that.
>
> Whoever submits the funniest I idea for this picture will win the
> following prizes:
>
> An ANSA hat
>
>
>
> A copy of the POTA Rarities DVD
>
>
>
> And a basic set of POTA Archive trading cards
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/ArchiveCards.htm>
>
> All submissions should be emailed directly to me at: JamesA1102@...
> <mailto:JamesA1102@... .
>
> Good Luck!
>

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Wow! According to the Google map that theater was on West 51st and Broadway. I'm very familiar with that area (my grandmother lived on West 51st until the mid-70s and I use to work on 53rd for a few years) but never knew there was a movie theater there. There has been an office building there for as long as I can remember.

The Capitol Theatre was demolished in September 1968!

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" wrote:


One thing I forgot to mention, we'll make up the winner's idea and
post
it on the Group's Yahoo home page over the weekend.

Cut off to submit an entry is Friday morning at 10AM (EST).

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" wrote:
>
>
> Good morning everyone! Today is our group's 9th Birthday.
>
> I'm sure most of you remember what a heady time it was for POTA
fans 9
> years ago this week; the 30th Anniversary was being celebrated,
James
> Cameron was doing the remake and AMC was was hosting a Labor Day
weekend
> marathon of the original films with the premiere of the 'Behind'
> documentary. It was during this POTA renaissance that Dave Pasco
founded
> this group.
>
> I'd like to thank our great moderating crew; Glen, Mark, Dave, John
and
> Donna for all their hard work in keeping this place running these
past
> few year. And thank all of you for making this the best POTA group
on
> the web.
>
> To thank you all even further we are having our annual Birthday
Contest.
> This year is really easy too. No trivia quiz. No hunting for special
> icons on web pages. Just something fun & simple.
>
> As those of you who visit the Yahoo home page
> (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
> ) know, we usually
feature
> a POTA related picture with a funny caption or word balloon.
Sometimes
> we add funny objects or add characters from the Simpsons or other
shows.
> Anyway, there is currently a pic from Planet with no caption, word
> balloon or addition. We are going to ask you to come up with that.
>
> Whoever submits the funniest I idea for this picture will win the
> following prizes:
>
> An ANSA hat
>
>
>
> A copy of the POTA Rarities DVD
>
>
>
> And a basic set of POTA Archive trading cards
>
>
>
>
> All submissions should be emailed directly to me at: JamesA1102@
> >
> Good Luck!
>

---

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This is Urgent because the Deadline is so close!

The European Commission (EC) is currently revising the law - known
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86/609 is a hugely powerful Directive that has power of life and
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There is a real possibility that with enough support the EC will ban
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If you want to do more:-
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Please tell all your colleagues and friends in the UK and Europe
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Thank You

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1980 Planet of the Apes movie? Huh ? Who? What?


Vin

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Leo Seddon" <bsherwood@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
> Anyone know of anyone who has full media clips of the two Planet of
the
> Apes Tv Movies from 1980? or is there a rare DvD of them?
>
> -----
> I heart My close Gothic girlfriend! Goths are beautiful dude!
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: 0

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:56 PM

Subject: [POTA] Re: TV Movies

1980 Planet of the Apes movie? Huh ? Who? What?

Vin

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Leo Seddon" <bsherwood@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hi.
> Anyone know of anyone who has full media clips of the two Planet of
the
> Apes Tv Movies from 1980? or is there a rare DvD of them?
>
> -----
> I heart My close Gothic girlfriend! Goths are beautiful dude!
>

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Thank you, James! I'm glad the picture with Leonard turned out pretty good.
I thought I was gonna look really dumb or something! I was nervous!!

Melinda :-)

>2a. Re: Off Topic: Star Trek Convention Report
> Posted by: "James" JamesA1102@... jamesa1102
> Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 9:57 am ((PDT))
>
>Great report Melinda! Love the pic of you and Nimoy.

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Amazon has it on sale for $99 right now.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Look at this picture of what Fox is offering for the "Giant
Collection" full
> series box set of "Land of the Giants." It's going to cost between
$150 to
> $200 bucks! Now are there that many crazy fans of this series?
And we didn't
> get one extra for the POTA TV series!
>
> If you can't see the picture, it's on www.thedigitalbits.com
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's free at http://www.aol.com
>

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I agree, Vin...a 1980 POTA movie??   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: 0 Date: 9/5/2007 4:59:32 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: TV Movies   1980 Planet of the Apes movie? Huh ? Who? What? Vin --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Leo Seddon" <bsherwood@. ..> wrote: > > Hi. > Anyone know of anyone who has full media clips of the two Planet of the > Apes Tv Movies from 1980? or is there a rare DvD of them? > > ----- > I heart My close Gothic girlfriend! Goths are beautiful dude! >

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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/6/2007 3:19:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, drhasslein@... writes:

Amazon has it on sale for $99 right now.

I still wouldn't spend that.  I've been renting them (we're talking bout DVDs of "Land of the Giants") from Netflix, and of course making copies.  I'm not that crazy about the show -- it's so ridiculous, but it is fun to see the same chairs used in Taylor's spaceship used in the Spindrift.  I recently found out that the first 12 episodes of "LOTG" were actually shot in the summer and fall of 1967 when PLANET was also in production at Fox.  "LOTG" was supposed to be a midseason replacement show on ABC that would have premiered in January 1968, but it got delayed until September.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:07 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: (OT) Is Fox nuts or what?

In a message dated 9/6/2007 3:19:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, drhasslein@yahoo. com writes:

Amazon has it on sale for $99 right now.

I still wouldn't spend that.  I've been renting them (we're talking bout DVDs of "Land of the Giants") from Netflix, and of course making copies.  I'm not that crazy about the show -- it's so ridiculous, but it is fun to see the same chairs used in Taylor's spaceship used in the Spindrift.  I recently found out that the first 12 episodes of "LOTG" were actually shot in the summer and fall of 1967 when PLANET was also in production at Fox.  "LOTG" was supposed to be a midseason replacement show on ABC that would have premiered in January 1968, but it got delayed until September.

-- Rory


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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/6/2007 9:13:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Luciano Pavarotti, the superstar tenor, has died of cancer. Though not a benchmark in either of their careers, Franklin Schaffner directed Pavarotti in the ill conceived 1982 flick "Yes, Giorgio", an attempt to turn Pavarotti into a movie star. It was a notorious flop that ended Schaffner's career on a sour note (though his last movie, "Welcome Home", starred POTA2001's Kris Kristofferson).   Jeff

After "Yes, Giorgio" (1982) Schaffner did go on to direct the barely released "Lionheart" (1987), notable as his last collaboration with Jerry Goldsmith (an excellent score, BTW).

-- Rory


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Several new additions this week:

* Covers for issues 1 and 2 of the Swedish comics (Thanks to Tim)
* Another Roddy McDowall autograph (Thanks to James)
* A fantasy cereal box with an Apes poster inside (Thanks to Jason
Liebig. Added to the Fan Projects page.)
* "Adventures on the Planet of the Apes" issue 6 (Thanks to James)

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

In 1980, FOX took 10 episodes of the TV series and edited them into 5
TV movies syndicated to local stations. The original films had been
solid performers for local TV stations so FOX found a way to squeeze
a few extra dollars out of the franchise.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> I agree, Vin...a 1980 POTA movie??
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: 0
>
> Date: 9/5/2007 4:59:32 PM
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [POTA] Re: TV Movies
>
>
>
> 1980 Planet of the Apes movie? Huh ? Who? What?
>
>
>
> Vin
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Leo Seddon" <bsherwood@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi.
>
> > Anyone know of anyone who has full media clips of the two Planet
of
>
> the
>
> > Apes Tv Movies from 1980? or is there a rare DvD of them?
>
> >
>
> > -----
>
> > I heart My close Gothic girlfriend! Goths are beautiful dude!
>
> >
>

He meant the TV movies made from the 1974 TV series episodes edited together.
Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Zach S <Zasco1957@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 5:25 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies

Actually I liked Land of the Giants very much when it was on ABC in 1968. The sets, costumes, and special effects still hold up but the stories and acting? With only a few exceptions like the pilot episode-not really. At almost 200 bucks I balked at first but now that it's cut in half I probably will pick it up. BTW when you get halfway through the first season you'll notice little Barry has a growth spurt all of a sudden. From one episode to the next he's suddenly like 5 inches taller. That was when they resumed shooting months after the first 12.

Bruce 


-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 6:07 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: (OT) Is Fox nuts or what?

You have them on VHS & DVD? Cool! can you send them here sometime?
-----
I heart My close Gothic girlfriend! Goths are beautiful dude!

If you're going to pick it up, you better hurry. I've read the sale
is a one day sale and ends today.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> Actually I liked Land of the Giants very much when it was on ABC in
1968. The sets, costumes, and special effects?still?hold up but the
stories and acting? With only a few exceptions like the pilot episode-
not really. At almost 200 bucks I balked at first but now that it's
cut in half?I probably will pick it up. BTW when you get halfway
through the first season you'll notice little Barry has a growth
spurt all of a sudden. From one episode to the next he's suddenly
like 5 inches taller. That was when they resumed shooting months
after the first 12.
>
> Bruce?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haristas@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 6:07 am
> Subject: [POTA] Re: (OT) Is Fox nuts or what?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/6/2007 3:19:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
drhasslein@... writes:
>
>
>
> Amazon has it on sale for $99 right now.
>
>
>
>
> I still wouldn't spend that.? I've been renting them (we're talking
bout DVDs of "Land of the Giants") from Netflix, and of course making
copies.? I'm not that crazy about the show -- it's so ridiculous, but
it is fun to see the same chairs used in Taylor's spaceship used in
the Spindrift.? I recently found out that the first 12 episodes
of "LOTG" were actually shot in the summer and fall of 1967 when
PLANET was also in production at Fox.? "LOTG" was supposed to be a
midseason replacement show on ABC that would have premiered in
January 1968, but it got delayed until September.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
> Amazon has it on sale for $99 right now.
>
>
>
>
> I still wouldn't spend that.? I've been renting them (we're talking
bout DVDs of "Land of the Giants") from Netflix, and of course making
copies.? I'm not that crazy about the show -- it's so ridiculous, but
it is fun to see the same chairs used in Taylor's spaceship used in
the Spindrift.? I recently found out that the first 12 episodes
of "LOTG" were actually shot in the summer and fall of 1967 when
PLANET was also in production at Fox.? "LOTG" was supposed to be a
midseason replacement show on ABC that would have premiered in
January 1968, but it got delayed until September.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
>
>
>
>
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.html.htmlIn a message dated 9/6/2007 6:30:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

At almost 200 bucks I balked at first but now that it's cut in half I probably will pick it up.

I'd get it too, but there are several other DVDs I want to get this fall, such as the two-disc special edition of 2001, and a promised all four season complete set of "The Man fron U.N.C.L.E.," which should cost like $200 plus dollars.

-- Rory

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I just did (but don't tell my wife).

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 7:31 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: (OT) Is Fox nuts or what?

Never really cared much for the two UNCLE series. My brother loved them but not me.

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 7:44 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: (OT) Is Fox nuts or what?

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In a message dated 9/6/2007 5:30:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

Barry has a growth spurt all of a sudden. From one episode to the next he's suddenly like 5 inches taller.

 

They should have just said the gigantism was getting to him.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:48 AM

Subject: [POTA] Re: OT: Pavarotti dies

In a message dated 9/6/2007 9:13:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:

Luciano Pavarotti, the superstar tenor, has died of cancer. Though not a benchmark in either of their careers, Franklin Schaffner directed Pavarotti in the ill conceived 1982 flick "Yes, Giorgio", an attempt to turn Pavarotti into a movie star. It was a notorious flop that ended Schaffner's career on a sour note (though his last movie, "Welcome Home", starred POTA2001's Kris Kristofferson) .   Jeff

After "Yes, Giorgio" (1982) Schaffner did go on to direct the barely released "Lionheart" (1987), notable as his last collaboration with Jerry Goldsmith (an excellent score, BTW).

-- Rory


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The next things affected should have been the stewardess with the blonde hair's boobs.  Maybe the ratings would have gotten bigger, too.

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: (OT) Is Fox nuts or what?

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Thanks.  --Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: James Date: 9/6/2007 12:28:52 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: TV Movies   In 1980, FOX took 10 episodes of the TV series and edited them into 5 TV movies syndicated to local stations. The original films had been solid performers for local TV stations so FOX found a way to squeeze a few extra dollars out of the franchise. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote: > > I agree, Vin...a 1980 POTA movie?? > > > > Zach > > > > -------Original Message----- -- > > > > From: 0 > > Date: 9/5/2007 4:59:32 PM > > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > > Subject: [POTA] Re: TV Movies > > > > 1980 Planet of the Apes movie? Huh ? Who? What? > > > > Vin > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Leo Seddon" <bsherwood@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi. > > > Anyone know of anyone who has full media clips of the two Planet of > > the > > > Apes Tv Movies from 1980? or is there a rare DvD of them? > > > > > > ----- > > > I heart My close Gothic girlfriend! Goths are beautiful dude! > > > >

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Thanks for straightening me out, Bruce.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: stenosaurus@... Date: 9/6/2007 5:15:06 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies   He meant the TV movies made from the 1974 TV series episodes edited together. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Zach S <Zasco1957@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 5:25 am Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies I agree, Vin...a 1980 POTA movie??   Zach      -------Original Message----- --   From: 0 Date: 9/5/2007 4:59:32 PM To: pota@yahoogroups. com Subject: [POTA] Re: TV Movies   1980 Planet of the Apes movie? Huh ? Who? What? Vin --- In pota@yahoogroups. com , "Leo Seddon" <bsherwood@. ..> wrote: > > Hi. > Anyone know of anyone who has full media clips of the two Planet of the > Apes Tv Movies from 1980? or is there a rare DvD of them? > > ----- > I heart My close Gothic girlfriend! Goths are beautiful dude! >   Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!

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Just in case you didn't know, read the link below to be informed on Mr. Roseman's current state of health.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Rosenman

-- Rory


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In a message dated 9/7/2007 9:45:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Zasco1957@... writes:

Thanks for straightening me out, Bruce.

 

Zach   

Hey, you always answer my emails I feel it's only fair I do the same!

 

Bruce  

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Hello everyone.

I've been lurking for a few weeks around here and have decided to
speak up about a few questions I've had for a long time. Does anyone
know if the cartoon series was originally titled RETURN TO PLANET OF
THE APES or just plain PLANET OF THE APES. The reason I ask is because
I've always thought it was odd that with the 'Return' title the show
never references the earlier stories and instead kind of re-tells
(re-imagines if you would) elements from the movies. Also it stands
out that 'RETURN TO' is in a different, smaller font than the rest of
the title. It's as if everything was completed and then at the last
minute it was decided to call it something else.

Sorry if this is something most around here already know. I've been a
fan of all things Ape since childhood but rarely get to discuss it
with anyone.

Thanks,


Rod Barnett

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Wow!  Thanks for the update, Rory...I hadn't heard about Mr. Rosenman in quite some time.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: Haristas@... Date: 09/07/07 12:29:54 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Happy Birthday Leonard!   I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned it yet, but today is Leonard Rosenman's birthday.  He's 83 years old. Just in case you didn't know, read the link below to be informed on Mr. Roseman's current state of health. http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Leonard_Rosenman -- Rory ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour

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Hi, Rod.   The cartoon series was indeed titled RETURN TO THE PLANET OF THE APES.  I thought exactly the same thing when I'd first watched it, that it never mentioned anything about Zira, Cornelius, Taylor, etc.  As for the font...I'd never paid that too much attention.  I have the cartoon series on DVD; I'll have to check that out later on today.   Zach Scott    -------Original Message-------   From: grimrod1 Date: 9/8/2007 12:54:53 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] (Return to) Planet of the Apes   Hello everyone. I've been lurking for a few weeks around here and have decided to speak up about a few questions I've had for a long time. Does anyone know if the cartoon series was originally titled RETURN TO PLANET OF THE APES or just plain PLANET OF THE APES. The reason I ask is because I've always thought it was odd that with the 'Return' title the show never references the earlier stories and instead kind of re-tells (re-imagines if you would) elements from the movies. Also it stands out that 'RETURN TO' is in a different, smaller font than the rest of the title. It's as if everything was completed and then at the last minute it was decided to call it something else. Sorry if this is something most around here already know. I've been a fan of all things Ape since childhood but rarely get to discuss it with anyone. Thanks, Rod Barnett

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Bruce, that's what this great APES forum is for, to explain certain things!   Zach       -------Original Message-------   From: stenosaurus@... Date: 9/7/2007 4:51:18 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies   In a message dated 9/7/2007 9:45:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Zasco1957@aol. com writes: Thanks for straightening me out, Bruce.   Zach    Hey, you always answer my emails I feel it's only fair I do the same!   Bruce   See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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Go to this link for a short write up about Pierre Boulle, who wrote Planet
of the Apes.

http://www.cynical-c.com/?p=8418

Melinda

I'm sure this has probably been posted before. I like the picture at the
top of the page.

http://www.megomuseum.com/pota/generalursus.html"

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You'll think of one...this forum has all kinds of things to talk about!   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: stenosaurus@... Date: 9/8/2007 12:44:35 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies   Now I wish I had a question!   Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Zach S <Zasco1957@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 8:44 am Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies Bruce, that's what this great APES forum is for, to explain certain things!   Zach       -------Original Message----- --   From: stenosaurus@ aol.com Date: 9/7/2007 4:51:18 PM To: pota@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies   In a message dated 9/7/2007 9:45:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Zasco1957@aol. com writes: Thanks for straightening me out, Bruce.   Zach    Hey, you always answer my emails I feel it's only fair I do the same!   Bruce   See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.   Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!

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Nope. Still can't think of one.
Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Zach S <Zasco1957@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV Movies

>4. (Return to) Planet of the Apes
>Posted by: "grimrod1" grimrod1@... grimrod1
>I've been lurking for a few weeks around here and have decided to
>speak up about a few questions I've had for a long time. Does anyone
>know if the cartoon series was originally titled RETURN TO PLANET OF
>THE APES or just plain PLANET OF THE APES. The reason I ask is because
>I've always thought it was odd that with the 'Return' title the show
>never references the earlier stories and instead kind of re-tells
>(re-imagines if you would) elements from the movies. Also it stands
>out that 'RETURN TO' is in a different, smaller font than the rest of
>the title. It's as if everything was completed and then at the last
>minute it was decided to call it something else.

I believe the title refers to the fact that the audience is returning
to the universe, not to anything in-universe.

Back in July, Jeff posted about Percy Rodrigues, who played Aboro and
narrated the trailer for JAWS, as well as the trailer for the in-work
documentary "The Shark Is Still Working."

I just read that Percy Rodrigues died a few days ago at age 83.
Here's a MySpace blog about it (you have to be a MySpace member to
read it):

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=69384379&blogID=307393588

Hunter

At 03:45 AM 9/9/2007, you wrote:

>2a. Re: (Return to) Planet of the Apes
>The cartoon series was indeed titled RETURN TO THE PLANET OF THE APES. I
>thought exactly the same thing when I'd first watched it, that it never
>mentioned anything about Zira, Cornelius, Taylor, etc.

Zira and Cornelius are two of the main characters in the cartoons. :)

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Well, I believe that the Zira and Cornelius in the cartoon series aren't the same ones that are in the first three movies...the recently-posted superb Hasslein Curve timeline says otherwise, but I tend to disagree.    I think that the cartoon series should have taken place some 500 years or so before the events of the first movie..."Zira", "Cornelius", "Dr. Zaius" and the "Nova" in the animated version should be remote ancestors of the movie versions...and, also, the technology level for the apes between the two series is just as different as night and day.    RETURN:  The apes flew airplanes, had cars, trucks, tanks, jeeps, electricity, television, radio, walkie-talkies, trains, boats, more modern furniture, theaters, camera and video equipment, and an also more modern-looking Ape City.   PLANET and BENEATH:  The apes used horse-and-buggies to get back and forth, or walked.  Their homes were more primitive-appearing.  I guess that they did have photography equipment (as was seen on PLANET after the Hunt) but that camera looked more like early-20th Century type.   What are my Apester friends' takes on this?   Zach  -------Original Message-------   From: Rich Handley Date: 9/9/2007 9:01:00 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3757   At 03:45 AM 9/9/2007, you wrote: >2a. Re: (Return to) Planet of the Apes >The cartoon series was indeed titled RETURN TO THE PLANET OF THE APES. I >thought exactly the same thing when I'd first watched it, that it never >mentioned anything about Zira, Cornelius, Taylor, etc. Zira and Cornelius are two of the main characters in the cartoons. :)

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That's a shame.  He was another dynamic actor that will be greatly missed.   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: Hunter Goatley Date: 09/09/07 07:47:09 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: goathunter@... Subject: [POTA] RIP Percy Rodrigues   Back in July, Jeff posted about Percy Rodrigues, who played Aboro and narrated the trailer for JAWS, as well as the trailer for the in-work documentary "The Shark Is Still Working." I just read that Percy Rodrigues died a few days ago at age 83. Here's a MySpace blog about it (you have to be a MySpace member to read it): http://blog. myspace.com/ index.cfm? fuseaction= blog.view& friendID= 69384379& blogID=307393588 Hunter

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>Posted by: "Zach S" Zasco1957@... soulfulguy1151
>Well, I believe that the Zira and Cornelius in the cartoon series aren't the
>same ones that are in the first three movies...the recently-posted superb
>Hasslein Curve timeline says otherwise, but I tend to disagree.

As the creator of the Hasslein Curve (which I haven't had time to
update in well over a year, unfortunately), thanks!

>I think that the cartoon series should have taken place some 500 years or so
>before the events of the first movie..."Zira", "Cornelius", "Dr. Zaius" and
>the "Nova" in the animated version should be remote ancestors of the movie
>versions...and, also, the technology level for the apes between the two
>series is just as different as night and day.

From a timeliner's perspective, the animated series is a real
problem. The series is said to take place in the same timeframe as
the first two films, but as you say, the technology level of the apes
makes that impossible. My timeline avoids the canonicity question,
however, and just places everything where it's said to occur. The
animateds are set in 3979 (some websites have it set at 3479, but
that contradicts what's said in the first episode), so that's where I
have them, even though we all know the series simply doesn't jibe
with the rest of the universe. So it's not that I'm saying they're
the same characters as the Zira and Cornelius from the films -- I see
the animateds as more of an alternate universe -- just that if the
cartoons DID happen, they would take place around the same time as
the first two films.

>RETURN: The apes flew airplanes, had cars, trucks, tanks, jeeps,
>electricity, television, radio, walkie-talkies, trains, boats, more modern
>furniture, theaters, camera and video equipment, and an also more
>modern-looking Ape City.
>PLANET and BENEATH: The apes used horse-and-buggies to get back and forth,
>or walked. Their homes were more primitive-appearing. I guess that they
>did have photography equipment (as was seen on PLANET after the Hunt) but
>that camera looked more like early-20th Century type.

Exactly. Clearly, the animateds are in some alternate version of the future.

Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with some success

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Apes_Return_108703.asp

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Hi, Mr. Handley.   I really have enjoyed your "Hasslein Curve", I thought that it was the most thorough and well-researched timeline that I'd ever read.  It was just that part with the animated series that I thought I should comment on.   A lot of our Apester friends probably won't agree with me--but I believe that maybe there could have been some type of malfunction in the ship that carried Bill Hudson, Jeff Allen and Judy Franklin into the Earth of the future.  The same type of computer "glitch" could have occurred on their time clock, as what must have happened to Brent's ship in BENEATH.  According to Taylor's Earth Time clock, the date he and his crew landed was 11-25-3978.  Brent's clock read 3955, which would have placed him on Earth 23 years before Taylor arrived.  And, according to Zira in ESCAPE, when she was being questioned by Dr. Hasslein, she drunkenly said, "3950...something..." maybe her eyes just hit the date meter at the time it was briefly registering "3950" as it was clicking down back to 1973 after the destruction of the planet and the shock wave hit the ship.  I'm going by the Hasslein Curve date of 3979 for the concluding events in PLANET and the events in BENEATH.   In addition to the major differences in the apes' technologies in the animated series and the original movies, let's also look at the mutants.   RETURN:  These mutants--under the leadership of Krador--had plenty of technology that was salvaged in the underground ruins of NYC; there were elevators shown, computers, generators, all kinds of high-tech equipment that they utilized.  Also, there was no mention (or showing) of the Alpha-Omega bomb, what these mutants "worshipped" looked as if it were a living tree!  The subway system that Hudson and Allen found seemed to be in much better condition, too...especially at the time that they were attempting to escape with Judy Franklin.  They were able to project images and all and put them into "regular" humans' minds as well as apes'.   BENEATH:  Mendez XXVI was the leader of these mutants...but very little technology was shown here, evidently they had lights, some type of fresh-water system to get water up and through that half-melted fountain in front of what was St. Patrick's Cathedral, and controls to raise the Bomb up and down on that launching pad...and they were also able to salvage some type of an organ to make it operable during their "services"...if there were any computers or any kind of generators or whatever, they were hidden...these mutants too were able to project their thoughts and place them in the "regular" humans' minds, Taylor, Brent and Nova, in addition to the Grand Army of the Apes led by General Ursus and Dr. Zaius.    The subway system that Taylor (evidently discovered)...and Brent and Nova explored...was a mess, a lot of it too was half-melted, there was no way a handcar--if there may have been one further on down the tracks--could have traveled through it, they would have had to walked to wherever they were led to; Mendez and company wouldn't have allowed "outsiders" to explore their underground world, that was kept hidden from the above.  I say that Taylor evidently discovered the subway system--or at least some portion of it--after he passed through the illusion, and maybe he also heard the same "hum" that Brent and Nova heard, which drew him to the Cathedral...or maybe some of the mutant guards captured him at some point.   Anyway, these are my takes on RETURN, PLANET and BENEATH.  Please feel free to comment, my friends.   Zach     -------Original Message-------   From: Rich Handley Date: 9/10/2007 8:11:30 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3758   >Posted by: "Zach S" Zasco1957@aol. com soulfulguy1151 >Well, I believe that the Zira and Cornelius in the cartoon series aren't the >same ones that are in the first three movies...the recently-posted superb >Hasslein Curve timeline says otherwise, but I tend to disagree. As the creator of the Hasslein Curve (which I haven't had time to update in well over a year, unfortunately) , thanks! >I think that the cartoon series should have taken place some 500 years or so >before the events of the first movie..."Zira" , "Cornelius", "Dr. Zaius" and >the "Nova" in the animated version should be remote ancestors of the movie >versions... and, also, the technology level for the apes between the two >series is just as different as night and day. From a timeliner's perspective, the animated series is a real problem. The series is said to take place in the same timeframe as the first two films, but as you say, the technology level of the apes makes that impossible. My timeline avoids the canonicity question, however, and just places everything where it's said to occur. The animateds are set in 3979 (some websites have it set at 3479, but that contradicts what's said in the first episode), so that's where I have them, even though we all know the series simply doesn't jibe with the rest of the universe. So it's not that I'm saying they're the same characters as the Zira and Cornelius from the films -- I see the animateds as more of an alternate universe -- just that if the cartoons DID happen, they would take place around the same time as the first two films. >RETURN: The apes flew airplanes, had cars, trucks, tanks, jeeps, >electricity, television, radio, walkie-talkies, trains, boats, more modern >furniture, theaters, camera and video equipment, and an also more >modern-looking Ape City. >PLANET and BENEATH: The apes used horse-and-buggies to get back and forth, >or walked. Their homes were more primitive-appearing . I guess that they >did have photography equipment (as was seen on PLANET after the Hunt) but >that camera looked more like early-20th Century type. Exactly. Clearly, the animateds are in some alternate version of the future.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Well, I believe that the Zira and Cornelius in the cartoon series

aren't the

> same ones that are in the first three movies...the recently-posted

superb

> Hasslein Curve timeline says otherwise, but I tend to disagree.
>
>
>
> I think that the cartoon series should have taken place some 500

years or so

> before the events of the first movie..."Zira", "Cornelius", "Dr.

Zaius" and

> the "Nova" in the animated version should be remote ancestors of the

movie

> versions...and, also, the technology level for the apes between the two
> series is just as different as night and day.
>
>
>
> RETURN: The apes flew airplanes, had cars, trucks, tanks, jeeps,
> electricity, television, radio, walkie-talkies, trains, boats, more

modern

> furniture, theaters, camera and video equipment, and an also more
> modern-looking Ape City.
>
>
>
> PLANET and BENEATH: The apes used horse-and-buggies to get back and

forth,

> or walked. Their homes were more primitive-appearing. I guess that

they

> did have photography equipment (as was seen on PLANET after the

Hunt) but

> that camera looked more like early-20th Century type.
>
>
>
> What are my Apester friends' takes on this?
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>

I don't think the cartoon series took place 500 years before the first
film or anything like that. I think the cartoon is a separate and very
fun re-do of the first two movies. It clearly has no continuity
connection to the movies. In some ways I'm finding as I go back
through the show for the first time in years that the story it tells
is more interesting than I remembered. And some of its ideas are
amazing. I love the higher tech level of the apes, the way the
forbidden zone is treated, the humans being able to talk a bit and the
tone as well.

The cartoon show isn't a classic on par wit the first film but it is
darned good stuff. And I see it as the first time 20th Century
commissioned a re-imagining.

ROD

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Rod, a lot of people feel the same...that the cartoon series was possibly part of an alternate universe, which could be true...both Dr. Hasslein (in ESCAPE) and Virgil (in BATTLE) mentioned that "time is like an infinite number of lanes". I'll admit that the animated version was interesting, however.  Thanks for your feedback.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: grimrod1 Date: 9/10/2007 9:08:41 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Digest Number 3757   --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote: > > > > Well, I believe that the Zira and Cornelius in the cartoon series aren't the > same ones that are in the first three movies...the recently-posted superb > Hasslein Curve timeline says otherwise, but I tend to disagree. > > > > I think that the cartoon series should have taken place some 500 years or so > before the events of the first movie..."Zira" , "Cornelius", "Dr. Zaius" and > the "Nova" in the animated version should be remote ancestors of the movie > versions...and, also, the technology level for the apes between the two > series is just as different as night and day. > > > > RETURN: The apes flew airplanes, had cars, trucks, tanks, jeeps, > electricity, television, radio, walkie-talkies, trains, boats, more modern > furniture, theaters, camera and video equipment, and an also more > modern-looking Ape City. > > > > PLANET and BENEATH: The apes used horse-and-buggies to get back and forth, > or walked. Their homes were more primitive-appearing . I guess that they > did have photography equipment (as was seen on PLANET after the Hunt) but > that camera looked more like early-20th Century type. > > > > What are my Apester friends' takes on this? > > > > Zach > > I don't think the cartoon series took place 500 years before the first film or anything like that. I think the cartoon is a separate and very fun re-do of the first two movies. It clearly has no continuity connection to the movies. In some ways I'm finding as I go back through the show for the first time in years that the story it tells is more interesting than I remembered. And some of its ideas are amazing. I love the higher tech level of the apes, the way the forbidden zone is treated, the humans being able to talk a bit and the tone as well. The cartoon show isn't a classic on par wit the first film but it is darned good stuff. And I see it as the first time 20th Century commissioned a re-imagining. ROD

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I know this is probably old news to most, but the article was posted
yesterday:

http://toynewsi.com/index.php?itemid=11862

Melinda

I'm just ecstatic about these new figures--talk about stepping into a
timemacine and travelling back to the heady days of 1974 when Apes
ruled, Star Wars didn't exist and life was fun. From what I've seen of
the Star Trek figures, we're in for a treat and I can't
wait.Interesting that in terms of comics and action figures over the
past years it's Classic, not Burton, Apes that Fox is licensing.Maybe
we're near the time when Fox will feel the stink has died down from
2001 and we can get back to Classic Apes with human aspect, green,
orange and black clothes, glyphs, funny boots and the best damned look
that any franchise ever had.I can't believe that our Mego chums are
returning!!! John.

>
> I know this is probably old news to most, but the article was posted
> yesterday:
>
> http://toynewsi.com/index.php?itemid=11862
>
> Melinda
>

Hey Rod,

Welcome to the group!

I'm old enough to remember the Animated show when it first aired in 1974. It was always titled "Return to POTA". I imagine they were trying to differentiate it from the live action series that aired a year earlier.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "grimrod1" <grimrod1@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I've been lurking for a few weeks around here and have decided to
> speak up about a few questions I've had for a long time. Does anyone
> know if the cartoon series was originally titled RETURN TO PLANET OF
> THE APES or just plain PLANET OF THE APES. The reason I ask is because
> I've always thought it was odd that with the 'Return' title the show
> never references the earlier stories and instead kind of re-tells
> (re-imagines if you would) elements from the movies. Also it stands
> out that 'RETURN TO' is in a different, smaller font than the rest of
> the title. It's as if everything was completed and then at the last
> minute it was decided to call it something else.
>
> Sorry if this is something most around here already know. I've been a
> fan of all things Ape since childhood but rarely get to discuss it
> with anyone.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Rod Barnett
>

Thanks Melinda. It is interesting that Boulle once considered POTA one of his minor works and now it is one of the two novels he is most remembered for.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Melinda G Kettler" <mgkettler@...> wrote:
>
> Go to this link for a short write up about Pierre Boulle, who wrote Planet
> of the Apes.
>
> http://www.cynical-c.com/?p=8418
>
> Melinda
>

I know some think that Return is the result of the second timeline created by Caesar in BATTLE.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Exactly. Clearly, the animateds are in some alternate version of the future.
>

One question: How come the Ape's level of technology decreased over time?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zach S" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Mr. Handley.
>
>
>
> I really have enjoyed your "Hasslein Curve", I thought that it was the most
> thorough and well-researched timeline that I'd ever read. It was just that
> part with the animated series that I thought I should comment on.
>
>
>
> A lot of our Apester friends probably won't agree with me--but I believe
> that maybe there could have been some type of malfunction in the ship that
> carried Bill Hudson, Jeff Allen and Judy Franklin into the Earth of the
> future. The same type of computer "glitch" could have occurred on their
> time clock, as what must have happened to Brent's ship in BENEATH.
> According to Taylor's Earth Time clock, the date he and his crew landed was
> 11-25-3978. Brent's clock read 3955, which would have placed him on Earth
> 23 years before Taylor arrived. And, according to Zira in ESCAPE, when she
> was being questioned by Dr. Hasslein, she drunkenly said, "3950...something.
> ." maybe her eyes just hit the date meter at the time it was briefly
> registering "3950" as it was clicking down back to 1973 after the
> destruction of the planet and the shock wave hit the ship. I'm going by the
> Hasslein Curve date of 3979 for the concluding events in PLANET and the
> events in BENEATH.
>
>
>
> In addition to the major differences in the apes' technologies in the
> animated series and the original movies, let's also look at the mutants.
>
>
>
> RETURN: These mutants--under the leadership of Krador--had plenty of
> technology that was salvaged in the underground ruins of NYC; there were
> elevators shown, computers, generators, all kinds of high-tech equipment
> that they utilized. Also, there was no mention (or showing) of the
> Alpha-Omega bomb, what these mutants "worshipped" looked as if it were a
> living tree! The subway system that Hudson and Allen found seemed to be in
> much better condition, too...especially at the time that they were
> attempting to escape with Judy Franklin. They were able to project images
> and all and put them into "regular" humans' minds as well as apes'.
>
>
>
> BENEATH: Mendez XXVI was the leader of these mutants...but very little
> technology was shown here, evidently they had lights, some type of
> fresh-water system to get water up and through that half-melted fountain in
> front of what was St. Patrick's Cathedral, and controls to raise the Bomb up
> and down on that launching pad...and they were also able to salvage some
> type of an organ to make it operable during their "services"...if there were
> any computers or any kind of generators or whatever, they were hidden..
> these mutants too were able to project their thoughts and place them in the
> regular" humans' minds, Taylor, Brent and Nova, in addition to the Grand
> Army of the Apes led by General Ursus and Dr. Zaius.
>
>
>
> The subway system that Taylor (evidently discovered)...and Brent and Nova
> explored...was a mess, a lot of it too was half-melted, there was no way a
> handcar--if there may have been one further on down the tracks--could have
> traveled through it, they would have had to walked to wherever they were led
> to; Mendez and company wouldn't have allowed "outsiders" to explore their
> underground world, that was kept hidden from the above. I say that Taylor
> evidently discovered the subway system--or at least some portion of
> it--after he passed through the illusion, and maybe he also heard the same
> hum" that Brent and Nova heard, which drew him to the Cathedral...or maybe
> some of the mutant guards captured him at some point.
>
>
>
> Anyway, these are my takes on RETURN, PLANET and BENEATH. Please feel free
> to comment, my friends.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: Rich Handley
>
> Date: 9/10/2007 8:11:30 AM
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [POTA] Digest Number 3758
>
>
>
>
>
> >Posted by: "Zach S" Zasco1957@... soulfulguy1151
>
> >Well, I believe that the Zira and Cornelius in the cartoon series aren't
> the
>
> >same ones that are in the first three movies...the recently-posted superb
>
> >Hasslein Curve timeline says otherwise, but I tend to disagree.
>
>
>
> As the creator of the Hasslein Curve (which I haven't had time to
>
> update in well over a year, unfortunately), thanks!
>
>
>
> >I think that the cartoon series should have taken place some 500 years or
> so
>
> >before the events of the first movie..."Zira", "Cornelius", "Dr. Zaius" and
>
> >the "Nova" in the animated version should be remote ancestors of the movie
>
> >versions...and, also, the technology level for the apes between the two
>
> >series is just as different as night and day.
>
>
>
> From a timeliner's perspective, the animated series is a real
>
> problem. The series is said to take place in the same timeframe as
>
> the first two films, but as you say, the technology level of the apes
>
> makes that impossible. My timeline avoids the canonicity question,
>
> however, and just places everything where it's said to occur. The
>
> animateds are set in 3979 (some websites have it set at 3479, but
>
> that contradicts what's said in the first episode), so that's where I
>
> have them, even though we all know the series simply doesn't jibe
>
> with the rest of the universe. So it's not that I'm saying they're
>
> the same characters as the Zira and Cornelius from the films -- I see
>
> the animateds as more of an alternate universe -- just that if the
>
> cartoons DID happen, they would take place around the same time as
>
> the first two films.
>
>
>
> >RETURN: The apes flew airplanes, had cars, trucks, tanks, jeeps,
>
> >electricity, television, radio, walkie-talkies, trains, boats, more modern
>
> >furniture, theaters, camera and video equipment, and an also more
>
> >modern-looking Ape City.
>
> >PLANET and BENEATH: The apes used horse-and-buggies to get back and forth,
>
> >or walked. Their homes were more primitive-appearing. I guess that they
>
> >did have photography equipment (as was seen on PLANET after the Hunt) but
>
> >that camera looked more like early-20th Century type.
>
>
>
> Exactly. Clearly, the animateds are in some alternate version of the future.
>

What a shame. He was a great actor and I always liked Aboro better than Urko. Thought he was a more menacing character.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> Back in July, Jeff posted about Percy Rodrigues, who played Aboro and
> narrated the trailer for JAWS, as well as the trailer for the in-work
> documentary "The Shark Is Still Working."
>
> I just read that Percy Rodrigues died a few days ago at age 83.
> Here's a MySpace blog about it (you have to be a MySpace member to
> read it):
>
> http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=69384379&blogID=307393588
>
> Hunter
>

I wonder how much they'll retail for. Hopefully, they won't be as expensive as the Sideshow figures.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@...> wrote:
>
> Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with some success
>
> http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Apes_Return_108703.asp
>
> _____> Share your special parenting moments!
> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us
>

If the Star Trek reissues are any indication they will retail at about $20

>From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Toy company announces Ape Mego figure reissues
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:26:42 -0000
>
>
>I wonder how much they'll retail for. Hopefully, they won't be as
>expensive as the Sideshow figures.
>
>--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@...> wrote:
> >
> > Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with some
>success
> >
> >
>http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Apes_R\
>eturn_108703.asp
> >
> > _____

_____

More info, please? Then, is that the plan? The Megos???? So cool.
So cool!! Best news all day! Details?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I'm just ecstatic about these new figures--talk about stepping into
a
> timemacine and travelling back to the heady days of 1974 when Apes
> ruled, Star Wars didn't exist and life was fun. From what I've seen
of
> the Star Trek figures, we're in for a treat and I can't
> wait.Interesting that in terms of comics and action figures over
the
> past years it's Classic, not Burton, Apes that Fox is
licensing.Maybe
> we're near the time when Fox will feel the stink has died down from
> 2001 and we can get back to Classic Apes with human aspect, green,
> orange and black clothes, glyphs, funny boots and the best damned
look
> that any franchise ever had.I can't believe that our Mego chums are
> returning!!! John.
> >
> > I know this is probably old news to most, but the article was
posted
> > yesterday:
> >
> > http://toynewsi.com/index.php?itemid=11862
> >
> > Melinda
> >
>

Sheesh, I hope not. I had to give up on those after five. I just
couldn't afford it!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I wonder how much they'll retail for. Hopefully, they won't be as
> expensive as the Sideshow figures.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@> wrote:
> >
> > Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with
some
> success
> >
> >
>
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Apes
_R\
> eturn_108703.asp
> >
> > _____

I'm psyched!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@...> wrote:
>
> If the Star Trek reissues are any indication they will retail at
about $20
>
>
> >From: "James" <JamesA1102@...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [POTA] Re: Toy company announces Ape Mego figure reissues
> >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:26:42 -0000
> >
> >
> >I wonder how much they'll retail for. Hopefully, they won't be as
> >expensive as the Sideshow figures.
> >
> >--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with
some
> >success
> > >
> > >
>
>http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Ape
s_R\
> >eturn_108703.asp
> > >
> > >
_____ > _____

Which Urko are they talking about? Helmet or not?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@...> wrote:
>
> Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with some
success
>
>
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Apes_R
eturn_108703.asp
>
> _____

Which Urko are they talking about? Helmeted or not?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@...> wrote:
>
> Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with some
success
>
>
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Apes_R
eturn_108703.asp
>
> _____

I am not sure yet but I would assume they'd go for the helmeted one.

>From: "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [POTA] Re: Toy company announces Ape Mego figure reissues
>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:51:01 -0000
>
>Which Urko are they talking about? Helmeted or not?
>
>
>
>--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike R" <mego73@...> wrote:
> >
> > Right here. They have already done Star Trek Mego reissues with some
>success
> >
> >
>http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Diamond_Select_Toys_Mego_Apes_R
>eturn_108703.asp
> >
> > _____

_____

I recently acquired the Presskit for "Battle" and
found these interesting bits......

BATTLE PRESSKIT NOTES

Noah Keen’s car was broadsided by a Cadillac as he
was leaving the set. He suffered bruises and a few
broken teeth.

Sam Jaffe was originally cast as Lawgiver but didn’t
want to shave his beard. Huston had no problem doing
that.

Roddy : “The first of the series was shot in the
summer and the heat made us perspire, which in turned
worked on the spirit gum, which in turn forced the
reapplication of the adhesive—which in ITS turn worked
on the skin. The rest of the films were produced in
the winter, but in “Battle” I caught cold which was a
charming experience.”

There were remnants of Roddy’s “How Green Was My
Valley” set on the ranch when they filmed.

Natalie: “I suppose that it isn’t popular in this day
of women’s lib but I assumed a deferential posture
when in company with the males. When I played a scene
with Roddy McDowall, my husband in the film, I walked
a little behind him with shorter steps. When important
decisions were being made I sometimes dropped my eyes
or turned my head away.”

When J. Lee Thompson heard of a survey that his Ape
City set at the 20th Century Fox ranch was being
considered as a possible site for a proposed
television series, he observed wryly, “I wonder if
they’ll want it when I get through with it.” He then
proceeded to blow the whole thing up.

When the gorillas are chanting “Ape shall never kill
ape”, one of the gorillas had an incongruously squeaky
voice. Thompson was convulsed, but he quickly
recovered, ordered the particular gorilla to remain
silent and got on with the shot.

From Heather “Doctor” Lowe’s bio: “Heather’s costume
looks like it was made from potato sacks and it
successfully conceals her 36-23-34 figure artfully
disposed along her five-foot-five figure carrying 111
pounds. Her hair and makeup don’t destroy her face,
but they don’t do anything to enhance it either.”

The casting director, Ross Brown saw Paul Williams on
the Tonight show and thought of him for Virgil. They
called him in to audition and he was signed
immediately.

Austin Stoker was cast after the first choice backed
out. He auditioned over New Year’s 1973 and on January
2nd was filming.

Paul Williams described the film this way: “It’s a
morality tale – with bananas.”

Claude Akins figures that his death as Aldo was par
for the course. He estimates he has come to a
deservedly violent end in about two-thirds of his 42
feature films and about half of his 142 television
shows.

During filming, a group of the film’s extras, attired
in masks and costumes, adjourned to a nearby saloon on
their lunch hour. Sitting at the bar sipping a
martini, one of the pseudosimians noticed the
bartender staring at him.
“What’s the matter,” demanded the patron, “haven’t
you ever seen a gorilla drinking a martini before?”
“Oh, no, it’s not that,” apologized the embarrassed
bartender. “It’s just that most of the ones we get in
here prefer a twist to olives.”







________________________

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In a message dated 9/11/2007 10:41:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john@... writes:

From what I've seen of
the Star Trek figures, we're in for a treat

 

I'm not really interested in those.

I would like to see a reissue of

the Phaser Tricorder and Communicators though.

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And all this time I thought Gorillas like daiquiris ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
>
> During filming, a group of the film's extras, attired
> in masks and costumes, adjourned to a nearby saloon on
> their lunch hour. Sitting at the bar sipping a
> martini, one of the pseudosimians noticed the
> bartender staring at him.
> "What's the matter," demanded the patron, "haven't
> you ever seen a gorilla drinking a martini before?"
> "Oh, no, it's not that," apologized the embarrassed
> bartender. "It's just that most of the ones we get in
> here prefer a twist to olives."
>
>
>

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The Apes TV Series was,is and ever shall be my favourite tv series
ever.I love the credits, the look, the music, the sets, the
locations, the cast, the scripts, everything.I've never experienced a
series that so managed to burn its' way onto my imagination and I
don't care what purists say, there's a lot of us Apes fans out there
who adore the tv series.The TV Guide cover is now my background pic
on my pc--thanks! John, Scrolls.

>
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Taylor & Nova escape with the assistance of Lucious, Zira and Cornelius. Dr Milo continues his quest in the Forbidden Zone, Brent and the Skipper travel through the stars in search of Taylor, and more ANSA history is revealed…. Join the adventure!

Thank you for your support! Hope you enjoy the episode!

Starring in this Episode are
Mark Kalita as Cornelius and the Lawgiver
Bill Hollweg as Taylor and Burton & Gorilla #6
Garry Cobbum as Dr. Hasslein
Natasha Lathrop as Dr. Zira
Davis Sobkowiak as Julius and the Skipper
Gareth Preston as Dr Zaius
Colin Snow as Gorilla Lt. #2, #3,#4 & #5 & Urko
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HELLO APE-HEADS,

Only if possible, I need a screenshot from ESCAPE:

Towards the end of the movie, after Lewis and Stephanie gave their last
farewell to Cornelius, Zira and Salomé (at that point believed to be
Milo Jr.).
The sequence in which Cornelius is walking near the pumpjack, and a ray
of light hits his face (he was watching the arm of the pumpjack moving
ABOVE him).

I would like to see that screenshot.

HUGE THANKS !!!!!



Tiziano

Is this what you're looking for: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> HELLO APE-HEADS,
>
> Only if possible, I need a screenshot from ESCAPE:
>
> Towards the end of the movie, after Lewis and Stephanie gave their last
> farewell to Cornelius, Zira and Salomé (at that point believed to be
> Milo Jr.).
> The sequence in which Cornelius is walking near the pumpjack, and a ray
> of light hits his face (he was watching the arm of the pumpjack moving
> ABOVE him).
>
> I would like to see that screenshot.
>
> HUGE THANKS !!!!!
>
>
>
> Tiziano
>

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Not to be a downer, but has anyone SEEN the prices for the Star Trek
retro figures? $36.00 for a set of two, and there's only been one set so
far (second set comes end of November, and the third the end of January
08). That's very little product in proportion to a pretty steep price.
Seems to me the Star Trek retro figures were announced quite some time
ago (anyone remember for sure?), and this is all that's been done with
it? Can you imagine the cost if they reproduced one of the playsets?


Chris L.

That's excellent!!

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I find that scene artistic.

No, it's not that. It's a sequence in which CORNELIUS is walking
ahead of ZIRA (and Salomé), and at a certain point he watches the arm
of the pumpjack in awe, and a ray of light hits his face. It's some
seconds before he turns his back and hurries up Zira to move faster.

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I don't care if I have to sell a kidney/my mother/my ass to afford
these new Megos, I'm buying them whatever it takes because life is full
of priorities and I know what mine are! John, Scrolls.

>
> Not to be a downer, but has anyone SEEN the prices for the Star Trek
> retro figures? $36.00 for a set of two, and there's only been one set

so

> far (second set comes end of November, and the third the end of

January

> 08). That's very little product in proportion to a pretty steep price.
> Seems to me the Star Trek retro figures were announced quite some time
> ago (anyone remember for sure?), and this is all that's been done with
> it? Can you imagine the cost if they reproduced one of the playsets?
>
>
> Chris L.
>

Am I right in thinking that the Apes tv series never made it onto the
cover of TV Guide? If so, would that be surprising for such an
expensive series or did CBS not have the clout as a 'lesser'station?
Or did their marketing people not do a very good job (the series
didn't really fall way, it never got the ratings from day one, so was
the marketing right?).Or is it evidence that the Studio had already
made a decision on cost and didn't want to give the series its best
chance and so didn't market it? The Apes tv series appeared twice on
the cover of the UK junior TV Times, 'Look-in' and had a high profile
for such a short-lived show. Any thoughts? John, Scrolls.

>
>
> As an Anniversary tribute to the TV series, the Group's Yahoo

homepage

> features the TV Guide cover that unfortunately never was:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
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I think the problem was that the series didn't last long enough. Back then magazines needed long lead times. Even 'All in the Family' which was an instant top ten hit didn't make it to the cover of TV Guide for six months. 'Cheers' which ran a decade later didn't make to the cover until mid-way through its second season. The POTA series was only on the air for less than 4 months.

TV Guide is was an independent publication at the time. And like most magazines that rely on newsstand sales for circulation, what's on the cover had an impact. So higher rated shows would make it to the cover sooner and more often. Although CBS was the #1 network at the time, it still had limited clout in getting it's series on the cover unless they were hits.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
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> Am I right in thinking that the Apes tv series never made it onto the
> cover of TV Guide? If so, would that be surprising for such an
> expensive series or did CBS not have the clout as a 'lesser'station?
> Or did their marketing people not do a very good job (the series
> didn't really fall way, it never got the ratings from day one, so was
> the marketing right?).Or is it evidence that the Studio had already
> made a decision on cost and didn't want to give the series its best
> chance and so didn't market it? The Apes tv series appeared twice on
> the cover of the UK junior TV Times, 'Look-in' and had a high profile
> for such a short-lived show. Any thoughts? John, Scrolls.
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Can you provide a time code for the shot you are looking for?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
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> I find that scene artistic.
>
> No, it's not that. It's a sequence in which CORNELIUS is walking
> ahead of ZIRA (and Salomé), and at a certain point he watches the arm
> of the pumpjack in awe, and a ray of light hits his face. It's some
> seconds before he turns his back and hurries up Zira to move faster.
>
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, paul_mannering@ wrote:
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> > Can I ask why?
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