On 12/5/07, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> I would love
> to see my hair fall on the back of my hand and imagine that I were an ape.

Wow, what a freak!

> I never told anyone, but since this group would understand I might as well
> fess up!

Oh. Er, yeah, um, me too!

8-)

(I used to go around the playground, doing my best to emulate a chimp
muzzle with my lips and nose....)

Hunter



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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:

>Dave- Guilty As Charged! Yeah I did the Chuck Heston and the Mendez

Mutant Kits and I thank you for remembering. A memory is all they are
anymore,ya' see around the Middle of 05' I realized I had a Problem and
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, The Kit Building was a Part or Symptom of the
overall problem. So In Short (I don't wanna Get off Topic again But...)
I would Obsesivley Compulsivley Horde EVERY KIT I could get my hands on
THEN I would sit down at my livingroom Coffeetable and start to work on
them this was an EVERY NIGHT routine!Finally I began to feel as though
I couldn't do as good a job on the Painting of these Pieces UNLESS I
got stoned first.A few times the wife found me in the Morning still
sitting asleep, still Clutching a Paintbrush in my Stinking Paw! lol
I'd Write Bad Checks to buy more Modeling Crap and so on..So when I
finally had hit rock bottom I sold my ENTIRE Collection for $400.00
(and believe me the Original Addar Ape Kits were worth almost that
ALONE!)But I'm glad I did cause then I had nothing to distract me from
getting help. So now What is my Hobby? you might Ask, Well I just Rent
DVDs and Make uh "Back-Up" Copies for myself The only investment for
this Hobby is the Blank DVD Discs!and I can just pop a movie in the
Computer and goe spend time with my family like I should have been all
along! So now that sorta brings ya' up to speed with me BUT now how
bout helping me obtain one of those Kick Butt "Ape Dossier" That is
awsome! I still collect SOME Movie Memrobila Such as One-Sheets,Press
Kits or Stills but nothing that demands ALL my attentionor that
requires that I be Stoned to do. Hope this rambaling makes sense? lolo
JOHN, and thanks again for remembering me I still have Pictures of the
Kits for my own records lol

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Apefans,
> > Okay I don't wanna get OT here but I gotta tell ya Uh, my name is

John

> > and I was here over Two Years.
>
> Welcome back, John.
>
> Were you the guy who made the model kits?
>
> Dave
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>HELL YES JAMES!! THIS PLACE INCREDIBLE I love the original Comics!

Thanks for Still being here for me!
John

>
> Hey John,
>
> Welcome back. Glad things are better for you now. Hope you like

some of

> the group's new features.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Apefans,
> > Okay I don't wanna get OT here but I gotta tell ya Uh, my name is

John

> > and I was here over Two Years.This was due to some Personal

Problems

> (I
> > drank like a fish! and lets not even get in to the Weed!) but

After

> > much soul searching and aLOT of rehab I've been clean over a year

and

> I
> > hope telling you this I can still be acepted here. IF SO, I'd

like to

> > has a favor of Mr. Hunter Goatley, I've been Enjoying the

Lobbycards

> > and Posters Very much,However there is a Mock-Up of a "Classified
> File"
> > containing Memo's from ASNA and Dr. Otto Hasline Reguarding
> > the "Talking Apes" So anyway, I got this File open with the Adobe
> > Program BUT I can't seem to be able to Print would it be possible

to

> > get maybe a Jpeg set of these? Thanks OH Btw, For Christmas my

Family

> > has gotten me the DVD Collection with the Ceaser Head! (AWSOME

SET!!)

> >
> > THanks Again,
> > JOHN
> >
>

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I got ahold of this a few years back -

ESCAPE - on the POTA re-release CD soundtrack - shame there were no separate notes to each track , just the credited "suite"!

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood@...> wrote:

>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >Dave- Guilty As Charged! Yeah I did the Chuck Heston and the

Mendez

> Mutant Kits and I thank you for remembering. A memory is all they

are

> anymore,ya' see around the Middle of 05' I realized I had a Problem

and

> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, The Kit Building was a Part or Symptom of the
> overall problem. So In Short (I don't wanna Get off Topic again

But...)

> I would Obsesivley Compulsivley Horde EVERY KIT I could get my

hands on

> THEN I would sit down at my livingroom Coffeetable and start to

work on

> them this was an EVERY NIGHT routine!Finally I began to feel as

though

> I couldn't do as good a job on the Painting of these Pieces UNLESS

I

> got stoned first.A few times the wife found me in the Morning still
> sitting asleep, still Clutching a Paintbrush in my Stinking Paw!

lol

> I'd Write Bad Checks to buy more Modeling Crap and so on..So when I
> finally had hit rock bottom I sold my ENTIRE Collection for $400.00
> (and believe me the Original Addar Ape Kits were worth almost that
> ALONE!)But I'm glad I did cause then I had nothing to distract me

from

> getting help. So now What is my Hobby? you might Ask, Well I just

Rent

> DVDs and Make uh "Back-Up" Copies for myself The only investment

for

> this Hobby is the Blank DVD Discs!and I can just pop a movie in the
> Computer and goe spend time with my family like I should have been

all

> along! So now that sorta brings ya' up to speed with me BUT now how
> bout helping me obtain one of those Kick Butt "Ape Dossier" That is
> awsome! I still collect SOME Movie Memrobila Such as One-

Sheets,Press

> Kits or Stills but nothing that demands ALL my attentionor that
> requires that I be Stoned to do. Hope this rambaling makes sense?

lolo

> JOHN, and thanks again for remembering me I still have Pictures of

the

> Kits for my own records lol
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "branchbrood" <branchbrood@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Apefans,
> > > Okay I don't wanna get OT here but I gotta tell ya Uh, my name

is

> John
> > > and I was here over Two Years.
> >
> > Welcome back, John.
> >
> > Were you the guy who made the model kits?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

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> And, for years, I carried photos of Zira and Cornelius in my daytimer--much
> like you would carry photos of your family.

> Anybody else in this group do freaky stuff like that?

This is off-topic, but you asked. I've carried a picture of a Yoda
doll in my wallet for 26 years now, always in the first photo slot
(much to the amusement of people who want to see my kids' pictures).

It's a long story, but suffice it to say that some friends and I had
this Yoda thing in high school (while "Empire Strikes Back" was still
in theaters)---we bought T-shirts with Yoda pictures on the front and
back, we wore the little Yoda dolls on chains around our necks.... It
was stupid fun that made people look at us funny, which was the whole
point.

Anyway, my friend Jerome made various clothes for his Yoda doll. My
favorite was a scuba-diving outfit made from an innertube. He also
made a disco outfit out of some shimmery white cloth. One of the
yearbook photographers took a photo of Jerome's doll in the disco
outfit, and that photo made it into the yearbook that year as a
full-page image.

A handful of us started carrying that photo in our wallets, and Jerome
decreed that whoever was still carrying that photo in his wallet when
Jerome died would inherit $10,000. Naturally, I decided I'd carry it
always.

Sadly, Jerome died a few weeks ago at age 44. No inheritance, of
course, but I now continue to keep that photo in my wallet in memory
of him.

Of the half dozen of us who carried them, I'm the only one who still
has the original photo (which I finally laminated a couple of years
ago to keep it from falling completely apart) in his wallet.

Hunter

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-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Hello there!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent! Thanks!

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Here it is with the link fixed.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "junglejom" <junglejom@.. .> wrote:
>
> >
> Here is a link to the poster I used before it was framed and the plastic was applied
>
> http://sideshowcoll ectors.com/ forums/attachmen t.php?attachment id=2995&d=1180387240
>

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yea well there is a sound track for just "escape !!
you probably have the varese label release with the
escape suite tagged on the end ...but cd ..Soundtrack
Library CD 026'' has 16 tracks!! from ESCAPE ,see
here for more
info...http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=9057

Country


--- Robin Medford <robinartwork60@...> wrote:

> I got ahold of this a few years back -
>
> ESCAPE - on the POTA re-release CD soundtrack -
> shame there were no separate notes to each track ,
> just the credited "suite"!
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> fast with Yahoo! Search.

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Yep that's where it is! I intend to post pics from my visit there...I'll try and do that before the end of the week....Thanks for the possible cornfield shot....I couldn't tell when I was there where that might be....but I have pics to compare....LOVE google earth! Not sure where the Hindu temple was....!

Tim

Haristas@... wrote:

Yeah, I'm talking about the big pine tree near the center of Ape City.
I'll bet it was a transplant. Quite dead by the time they shot BENEATH
in '69.

Has anyone here been on Google Earth lately? They give you a pretty
good look at the Malibu area now and someone has posted where the Ape
City set was. If you zoom in over the Malibu are north of LA, then
under "Layers" in the lower left corner click on "Gallery" and type in
Ape City above in "Fly To" it'll take you right to the spot. I can now
see clearly where not just Ape City was, but the Rock Pool and the
field where the Cornfield was planted, which is across from a Hindu
Temple. I'm sure Jeff Krueger can verify this.

-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 9:28 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes

Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the hugging
clue would it be trees or a particular tree?

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something
died
> between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in BENEATH
> it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is because
> I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first that
> knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
> Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City.
Funny
> I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
> this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced it
> in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
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I'm hoping that all the recent fires missed this area...They came very close I know but not sure how close they got..!

Haristas@... wrote:

Yeah, I'm talking about the big pine tree near the center of Ape City.
I'll bet it was a transplant. Quite dead by the time they shot BENEATH
in '69.

Has anyone here been on Google Earth lately? They give you a pretty
good look at the Malibu area now and someone has posted where the Ape
City set was. If you zoom in over the Malibu are north of LA, then
under "Layers" in the lower left corner click on "Gallery" and type in
Ape City above in "Fly To" it'll take you right to the spot. I can now
see clearly where not just Ape City was, but the Rock Pool and the
field where the Cornfield was planted, which is across from a Hindu
Temple. I'm sure Jeff Krueger can verify this.

-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 9:28 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes

Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the hugging
clue would it be trees or a particular tree?

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something
died
> between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in BENEATH
> it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is because
> I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first that
> knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
> Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City.
Funny
> I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
> this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced it
> in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
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Here's a shot I found on the web of what I think is part of the area
where the large outdoor cage was in the original movie (I now suspect
the cage was moved to a different spot in BENEATH). If you look at the
hilltop you'll see a strip of just grass near the crest. You can see
this same spot in the background of certain shots during the cage
sequence in PLANET -- forty years ago, of course. I also think I can
see a little of "Century Lake" in the lower right.

By the way, that same "half-bald" hilltop can be spotted in the
background of the hunt sequence in the cornfield, as can the tops of
the "goat buttes" that are in front of the Ape City set.

As far as this year's Malibu fires... I don't think any were in the
park. Of course, even if there were a fire there, the trees and
vegetation would grow back.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes






Yep that's where it is! I intend to post pics from my visit
there...I'll try and do that before the end of the week....Thanks for
the possible cornfield shot....I couldn't tell when I was there where
that might be....but I have pics to compare....LOVE google earth! Not
sure where the Hindu temple was....!

Tim

Haristas@... wrote: Yeah, I'm talking
about the big pine tree near the center of Ape City.
I'll bet it was a transplant. Quite dead by the time they shot
BENEATH
in '69.

Has anyone here been on Google Earth lately? They give you a
pretty
good look at the Malibu area now and someone has posted where the Ape
City set was. If you zoom in over the Malibu are north of LA, then
under "Layers" in the lower left corner click on "Gallery" and type in
Ape City above in "Fly To" it'll take you right to the spot. I can
now
see clearly where not just Ape City was, but the Rock Pool and the
field where the Cornfield was planted, which is across from a Hindu
Temple. I'm sure Jeff Krueger can verify this.

-----Original Message-----
From: James JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 9:28 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes

Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the hugging
clue would it be trees or a particular tree?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something
died
> between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in BENEATH
> it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is because
> I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first that
> knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
> Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City.
Funny
> I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
> this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced it
> in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:04 AM

Subject: Re: [POTA] Hello there!!!!!!!!!!

> And, for years, I carried photos of Zira and Cornelius in my daytimer--much
> like you would carry photos of your family.

> Anybody else in this group do freaky stuff like that?

This is off-topic, but you asked. I've carried a picture of a Yoda
doll in my wallet for 26 years now, always in the first photo slot
(much to the amusement of people who want to see my kids' pictures).

It's a long story, but suffice it to say that some friends and I had
this Yoda thing in high school (while "Empire Strikes Back" was still
in theaters)--- we bought T-shirts with Yoda pictures on the front and
back, we wore the little Yoda dolls on chains around our necks.... It
was stupid fun that made people look at us funny, which was the whole
point.

Anyway, my friend Jerome made various clothes for his Yoda doll. My
favorite was a scuba-diving outfit made from an innertube. He also
made a disco outfit out of some shimmery white cloth. One of the
yearbook photographers took a photo of Jerome's doll in the disco
outfit, and that photo made it into the yearbook that year as a
full-page image.

A handful of us started carrying that photo in our wallets, and Jerome
decreed that whoever was still carrying that photo in his wallet when
Jerome died would inherit $10,000. Naturally, I decided I'd carry it
always.

Sadly, Jerome died a few weeks ago at age 44. No inheritance, of
course, but I now continue to keep that photo in my wallet in memory
of him.

Of the half dozen of us who carried them, I'm the only one who still
has the original photo (which I finally laminated a couple of years
ago to keep it from falling completely apart) in his wallet.

Hunter

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> Thanks, Hunter. That's kind of touching. Where has the time gone, huh? Jeff

I know it! Thanks. Here's a scan of the battered photo as it is
today:

http://www.goatley.com/hunter/images/yoda.jpg

If you look closely, you can see the bow-tie from the disco suit....

Hunter

Not quite as strange as what I've read here (!) but around 1973 or 1974 I was told that a company was releasing a POTA make-up kit. As soon as I heard that I planned a new  POTA film: TERROR ON THE PLANET OF THE APES, starring yours truly and a girl I had the hots for. We were gonna be humans; my other friends would be apes and mutants. It was supposed to take place right after BATTLE but featuring all new characters. I wrote a script, made a movie poster, ran rehearsals etc. I thought the make-up kit would be something sophisticated but when it came out and I saw it was the plastic Ben Cooper Halloween mask MINUS its lower jaw with a set of glow in the dark vampire fangs instead that was the tragic end of my film. AND I never got the girl.

Bruce
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 6:04 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Hello there!!!!!!!!!!

On Dec 6, 2007 12:10 PM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> Thanks, Hunter. That's kind of touching. Where has the time gone, huh? Jeff

I know it! Thanks. Here's a scan of the battered photo as it is
today:

http://www.goatley.com/hunter/images/yoda.jpg

If you look closely, you can see the bow-tie from the disco suit....

Hunter

HEy Rory....I know where that plateau is ...it's on the trail up to Ape City but I'm pretty sure that's not where the cage was.....the background is the same...but I think the cage was on a higher hill across and behind this one....this plateau does have some remains of some structure but it is not big enough for the cage and area around it ...nor is there a drop down where Zira's office was ....Z&C came up some "stairs" to get to the cage....if you step off this plateau you will plummet very far....

Creber said the cage was in a different location from APe City but still in the park.....something for the next trip....!

I know that the fires were very close to Pepperdine University and you turn there at the school to go up the winding road to Malibu Creek State Park......but that park is a few ridges over so maybe the flames didn't get that far.....

Haristas@... wrote:

Here's a shot I found on the web of what I think is part of the area
where the large outdoor cage was in the original movie (I now suspect
the cage was moved to a different spot in BENEATH). If you look at the
hilltop you'll see a strip of just grass near the crest. You can see
this same spot in the background of certain shots during the cage
sequence in PLANET -- forty years ago, of course. I also think I can
see a little of "Century Lake" in the lower right.

By the way, that same "half-bald" hilltop can be spotted in the
background of the hunt sequence in the cornfield, as can the tops of
the "goat buttes" that are in front of the Ape City set.

As far as this year's Malibu fires... I don't think any were in the
park. Of course, even if there were a fire there, the trees and
vegetation would grow back.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes

Yep that's where it is! I intend to post pics from my visit
there...I'll try and do that before the end of the week....Thanks for
the possible cornfield shot....I couldn't tell when I was there where
that might be....but I have pics to compare....LOVE google earth! Not
sure where the Hindu temple was....!

Tim

Haristas@aol. com wrote: Yeah, I'm talking
about the big pine tree near the center of Ape City.
I'll bet it was a transplant. Quite dead by the time they shot
BENEATH
in '69.

Has anyone here been on Google Earth lately? They give you a
pretty
good look at the Malibu area now and someone has posted where the Ape
City set was. If you zoom in over the Malibu are north of LA, then
under "Layers" in the lower left corner click on "Gallery" and type in
Ape City above in "Fly To" it'll take you right to the spot. I can
now
see clearly where not just Ape City was, but the Rock Pool and the
field where the Cornfield was planted, which is across from a Hindu
Temple. I'm sure Jeff Krueger can verify this.

-----Original Message-----
From: James JamesA1102@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 9:28 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes

Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the hugging
clue would it be trees or a particular tree?

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something
died
> between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in BENEATH
> it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is because
> I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first that
> knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
> Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City.
Funny
> I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
> this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced it
> in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
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Hi, Jessica.

> That photo is very endearing. Great memories behind it, although a little
> sad. It is a great remembrance of happier times and a great tribute to your
> dear departed friend.

Thanks. I hadn't intended to write all that I did, but your post
sparked it, and I apparently needed to say it. 8-)

Hunter
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goathunter@... http://www.goatley.com/hunter/

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:10 PM

Subject: Re: [POTA] Hello there!!!!!!!!!!

> Thanks, Hunter. That's kind of touching. Where has the time gone, huh? Jeff

I know it! Thanks. Here's a scan of the battered photo as it is
today:

http://www.goatley. com/hunter/ images/yoda. jpg

If you look closely, you can see the bow-tie from the disco suit....

Hunter

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Bruce, that story of your "Terror" fan film is hilarious. I guess
the real terror is that you never got the girl.

Hunter, that was a very endearing story about your Yoda photo. Along
those same lines...When I was in high school, back in the mid 1980s,
two friends and I used to joke around about this tiny old lady who
spent all day walking (slowly) around the cafeteria, picking up
napkins from the floor, refilling napkin dispensers and handing out
napkins to students who needed them. (I'm pretty sure she did more
than that, but her constant focus on napkins is what caught our
eye.) We started calling her--naturally--the Napkin Lady. One day,
my friend Ivy came into school with a camera and snapped some photos
of the Napkin Lady, then made three ID cards for me, Ivy and our
friend Rob. The cards proclaimed us as official members of the
Napkin Lady Fan Club and had her headshot in the upper corner. I
think I still have that somewhere, and it's been 21 years since I graduated!

Hello everyone and happy Friday!!

I am currently working on an outfit for Dr. Zaius for a mego 8" doll.
I have just noticed while using www.apemania.com as a reference that
there are two seams on the front of the male chimp pants and the
orangutan pants. Human pants usually only have two seams per leg...

Does anybody have a real outfit and if you do, can you take a peek at
it and see if there are two seams on the rear side of the pants as
well? I am curious to see the rear side of the pants now. It doesn't
make sense to not have two additional seams on the back.

If you are interested in seeing what I have done so far with his outfit
you can peek at my blog:

www.itchingtobeknitting.blogspot.com

Thanks, Jessica.

Yeah, figuring out where the cage was is kind of hard. From what I can
see in the film, the Malibu Creek runs just below it because you can
see it behind Cornelius when he is walking up to where he meets Zira.
But the buttes in front of Ape City are in the background when they
kiss which makes me think the cage was atop a hill a little further
north along Century Lake, up from the Ape City set. Someday I hope to
get out there and see it myself, but I have no idea when that'll ever
happen.

By the way, the river bank where the gorilla army trains in BENEATH
looks to me to be along the northern part of Century Lake. The whole
sandy area now appears to be overgrown with bushes. Another thing....
About "Century Lake," the body of water in front of Ape City. It's
actually a small reservoir created by a dam on the Malibu Creek (up the
creek from where the Rock Pool is). The top of it is actually in
PLANET when some of the chimps start throwing fruit at Taylor and he
turns and runs in front of the lake. But you can't actually see the
dam itself because it's camouflaged with foliage. It's simply in that
space at water's edge between the two buttes. The Rock Pool can be
seen on Google Earth by following the Malibu Creek from below the
Century Dam, around the butte to the other side. You can miss the
three large bolders in the pool. Of course, anyone who's been there
knows all this. I'm just telling what I think I've been able to figure
out.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes






HEy Rory....I know where that plateau is ...it's on the trail up to Ape
City but I'm pretty sure that's not where the cage was.....the
background is the same...but I think the cage was on a higher hill
across and behind this one....this plateau does have some remains of
some structure but it is not big enough for the cage and area around it
...nor is there a drop down where Zira's office was ....Z&C came up
some "stairs" to get to the cage....if you step off this plateau you
will plummet very far....

Creber said the cage was in a different location from APe City but
still in the park.....something for the next trip....!

I know that the fires were very close to Pepperdine University and you
turn there at the school to go up the winding road to Malibu Creek
State Park......but that park is a few ridges over so maybe the flames
didn't get that far.....

Haristas@... wrote: Here's a shot I found
on the web of what I think is part of the area
where the large outdoor cage was in the original movie (I now suspect
the cage was moved to a different spot in BENEATH). If you look at
the
hilltop you'll see a strip of just grass near the crest. You can see
this same spot in the background of certain shots during the cage
sequence in PLANET -- forty years ago, of course. I also think I can
see a little of "Century Lake" in the lower right.

By the way, that same "half-bald" hilltop can be spotted in the
background of the hunt sequence in the cornfield, as can the tops of
the "goat
buttes" that are in front of the Ape City set.

As far as this year's Malibu fires... I don't think any were in the
park. Of course, even if there were a fire there, the trees and
vegetation would grow back.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes

Yep that's where it is! I intend to post pics from my visit
there...I'll try and do that before the end of the week....Thanks for
the possible cornfield shot....I couldn't tell when I was there where
that might be....but I have pics to compare....LOVE google earth! Not
sure where the Hindu temple was....!

Tim

Haristas@... wrote:
Yeah, I'm talking
about the big pine tree near the center of Ape City.
I'll bet it was a transplant. Quite dead by the time they shot
BENEATH
in '69.

Has anyone here been on Google Earth lately? They give you a
pretty
good look at the Malibu area now and someone has posted where the Ape
City set was. If you zoom in over the Malibu are north of LA, then
under "Layers" in the lower left corner click on "Gallery" and type in
Ape City above in "Fly To" it'll take you right to the spot. I can
now
see clearly where not just Ape City was, but the Rock Pool and the
field where the Cornfield was planted, which is across from a Hindu
Temple. I'm sure Jeff Krueger can verify this.

-----Original Message-----
From: James JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 9:28 am
Subject: [POTA] Re: Life Lost on the Planet of the Apes

Well my first thought was Heston's acting. But considering the hugging
clue would it be trees or a particular tree?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Watching both PLANET and BENEATH recently I noticed that something
died
> between the two movies. In PLANET it's very much alive and in
BENEATH
> it's as dead as the Dead Sea. I'm not going to say what it is
because
> I want you to try and spot it yourselves and see who's the first
that
> knows what I'm talking about. I will give you a couple clues though.
> Certain people are huggers of them and it's located in Ape City.
Funny
> I've never paid any attention to it before, but it really stood out
> this time. Poor thing. I wondered why the couldn't have replaced
it
> in BENEATH? Was the production that cheap?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>

I had issue 10 and 11 of this series as a kid and lost them over the years...Man...This is COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Bill Hollweg
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    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
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http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
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http://www.brokensea.com and

James sent me a 2008 PotA Calendar celebrating the movie's 40th
anniversary. You can download the calendar in PDF form from my PotA
site. It's designed to be printed on U.S. legal-size paper
(8.5"x14"). Thanks, James!

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

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In a message dated 12/5/2007 4:27:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

My earliest memories, if I may now confess, is that I would have my dad cut my hair short when I was in grade school almost like a boy's haircut.  I would love to see my hair fall on the back of my hand and imagine that I were an ape.  I never told anyone, but since this group would understand I might as well fess up!  I can't wait to see your artwork.

 

Jessica.

 

Yes, Jess.

Me too.

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In a message dated 12/5/2007 9:20:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Anybody else in this group do freaky stuff like that?

 

Abso-lutely!

My bowling stance in my youth was

admittedly apeish.  And I had a pic

of Kim Hunter inside my pocket watch.

 

 

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James found and corrected a couple of typos in his calendar. A new
version was posted on my site this morning:

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

Thanks to PotaDG's drzaiusdavis, I've added MP3s from a 1974
children's record album entitled "Planet of the Apes: A Musical Trip"
to my site.

You can find more information and download the MP3s here:

https://pota.goatley.com/

Thanks, John!

Hunter

>Posted by: "Hunter Goatley" goathunter@... huntergoatley
>Thanks to PotaDG's drzaiusdavis, I've added MP3s from a 1974
>children's record album entitled "Planet of the Apes: A Musical Trip"
>to my site.
>You can find more information and download the MP3s here:
>https://pota.goatley.com/
>Thanks, John!

Oh...my...god.

It is truly a madhouse.

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That is fantastic, thanks for sharing it with us!   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: junglejom Date: 12/4/2007 11:24:25 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Subway Terror in NY   --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@. ..> wrote: > > Is the artwork on the "New York is a Summer Festival" poster that Brent > is holding: > > http://movies. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ photos/view/ 99bf?b=11 > > http://movies. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ photos/view/ 99bf?b=12 > > based on an actual advertising campaign, or what was used in the original > film? If it's the latter, how did you get to see the whole image? From > what I remember, you only see part of the poster when Brent is looking at > it. > > > Chris L. > I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic here is a link http://sideshowcoll ectors.com/ forums/showthrea d.php? p=481981&highlight= summer+festival# post481981

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I see it too, wow!   Zach    -------Original Message-------   From: jessica rotich Date: 12/3/2007 10:44:52 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: It's a Miracle!   James,   Thank you.  I see it!  Very creepy!!    I thought when you had mentioned the image, it would have been a cartoon drawing, which is why I was so curious to see it.   I thought that one of the artists (If it is true they were Filipino), had snuck in something religious in a drawing until I saw the scan, so thank you!!  This is a link of a site I came across the internet a few weeks ago:   http://iagainstcomi cs.blogspot. com/2007/ 10/beneath- planet-of- apes-power- records.html"     Have you seen it before?   Jessica.     On Dec 3, 2007 3:27 AM, James <JamesA1102@aol. com> wrote: Here you go and there is something there. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote: > > Can I please see a scan of this? I am curious!! > > Jessica. > > > On 12/2/07, Tim apefan apefan23@... wrote: > > > > Um...I didn't see one...are you sure you are not having some sort of > > spiritual crisis, John? lol > > > > *shanter2002 john@...* wrote: > > > > If you don't have #5 of the Marvel mag, ignore this posting.If you DO > > have it, on page 47 there is a family group pic of Caesar, Lisa and > > Corny.Beneath Caesar's chin is a ghostly image of the Virgin Mary.I kid > > you not.John, Scrolls. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > > it now.<http://us.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=51731/ *http://mobile. yahoo.com/ sports;_ylt= At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G 1SQtBI7ntAcJ% 0A > > > > > > > >

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I finally looked at the calendar.....

James, you're killing me here.... James Sikking's birthday?!!!!! Army
Archerd, James Bacon, Collen Camp and everyone involved in the horrible
remake's birthdays?!!!!!

I'M DYIN' OVER HERE!!!!!!

NO Roddy McDowall birthday! NO Kim Hunter birthday! NO Maurice Evans
birthday! NO Arthur P. Jacobs birthday! NO Franklin J. Schaffner
birthday! NO Jerry Goldsmith birthday!

Was there even a Pierre Boulle birthday?!!!!

James, you even forgot Mike Ploog's birthday and the guy who used to
wax the floors at Marvel Comics!

Other than that, I guess it's better than nothing!

-- Rory



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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

> 
> NO Roddy McDowall birthday! NO Kim Hunter birthday! NO Maurice Evans
> birthday! NO Arthur P. Jacobs birthday! NO Franklin J. Schaffner
> birthday! NO Jerry Goldsmith birthday!
>
> Was there even a Pierre Boulle birthday?!!!!
>

Well all the people you mention have something in common that precluded them from being included since people that have this in common usually don't celebrate their birthdays anymore.

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>>In BENEATH, how did Nova know where Zira and Cornelius'

house was? Wouldn't it have made more sense if Brent and Nova,
concealed in the hillside brush, had just watched into what house Zira
and Cornelius had gone, then climbed in through a back window? <<

>>Did Taylor teach Nova how to ride a horse? Because she certainly

was
keeping up with Brent pretty good during that chase through the forest near
the entrance to the subway station's ruins. <<

>>I probably have asked this before too, but how the heck could Brent

and
Nova entered the "Queensboro Plaza" subway station...walked a short distance
down the tracks, entered a cave-like area...eventually found a ladder that
they climbed into another tunnel...and came out in front of the 42nd Street
Public Library (when these two NYC landmarks are miles from each other)? <<

>>And then, even worse, walking past the remains of the New York

Stock
Exchange, which is in the southern part of the city? The Library--Radio
City--St. Patrick's Cathedral--and the Grand Central Station scenes made
more sense because they are closer together. <<

>>Was Mendez XXVI wearing some sort of a bulletproof vest or

something?
Because when Ursus' guards shot him, he didn't bleed! However, earlier,
when Ongaro (the Negro) met his fate on those spikes in the door of that
cell, you could clearly see bloody holes in his robes where he had been impaled! <<

>>What was in that object lying on the floor that Albina used to

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>>The original Planet was also named one of the best movies of 1968

in the current issue of Cinema Retro magazine.... ..I think it was number 4! <<
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In case anyone is interested:

http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/p/planetoftheapes_tv..html"


Chris L.

Nice work James!!

I wonder if you'll get a 'Cease & Desist' letter like Dan Vernet did?
;-)

(I think I spelled his last name wrong BTW)


Chris L.

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>>Rory, you can say that again...I too have discovered that AMC sucks

recently
It used to be a superb channel! Like Brent, I'm asking, "What...what
could have happened?" <<

>>At least AMC is showing them in the proper order this time.

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>> I agree with you completely on this one, Rory. The captions were

not that funny, and if you found one, and paid anywhere near $175,
you would be highly disappointed. I guess Sausville was looking at
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>>I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic

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>>speaking of Blood of the APes.....I am missing No. 3 and that is

the only POTA comic I do not have....been looking for it at comic shows and online over the years....if anyone has an extra copy I cna buy , let me know! <<
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>>It was Dave Miller of Fox video that told me the story of Battle at

Dave's Laser Place Studio Day in Studio City, CA. He said it would
come up in every meeting, but was shot down every time. <<

>>It was definitely the extended version that was in the Japan box.

He said he
received numerous letters from the same five guys over and over again
asking for the release (I was one of them.) The Studio Day the
following year he was really excited to tell me about the Japan set,
I had already purchased it by then. He has since left Fox video. << <.html

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>>Reading who's book? I was merely basing what I wrote on the ''er

evidence '' presented during the running of the film lol << <.html

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>>All he said was that was the transfer they had, and they couldn't

release it in good conscience, given the quality, and sales of prior
releases couldn't justify a new master. <<<.html

I'd rather celebrate the memory of someone who's dead on the day they
were born than remember that Marky-Mark lives at all, let alone that
most unmentionable of unmentionable cinematic turds!

I say better to celebrate the birthdays of the POTA dead than ever be
reminded of that which makes me want to die!

-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 8:16 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: PotA 2008 Calendar

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> NO Roddy McDowall birthday! NO Kim Hunter birthday! NO Maurice Evans
> birthday! NO Arthur P. Jacobs birthday! NO Franklin J. Schaffner
> birthday! NO Jerry Goldsmith birthday!
>
> Was there even a Pierre Boulle birthday?!!!!
>


Well all the people you mention have something in common that precluded
them from being included since people that have this in common usually
don't celebrate their birthdays anymore.









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BTW, you lost me with this sentence: "The Studio Day the following year
he
was really excited to tell me about the Japan set,"

The studio day??


Chris L.


Dave's Laser Place (I think that's what it was called -- anyway, it's
out of business now) was THE place to go in LA to get laserdiscs in the
'90s. Every so often they would have an executive from one of the
video companies at the store to answer questions from the fanatical
collectors. Those were called "Studio Days."

The store wasn't far from where Roddy McDowall lived and he was a
well-known regular customer.

-- Rory


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>>Wow! You know, until now, after reading your post, I hadn't

connected the
two...the Batmobile and the spaceship reentry sound...I'm going to have to
re-watch PLANET over the coming weekend, thanks for the trivia, Chris! <<

>>Here's a bit of Fox sound trivia for you: the roaring engine sound

that the
spaceship make upon reentry at the beginning of PLANET is the same sound
used when the Batmobile was fired up in the 60's TV series (when you'd see
the flame shooting out of the back). Also, I could swear I hear the
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Thanks, John!

I've been curious about this for a long time.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to PotaDG's drzaiusdavis, I've added MP3s from a 1974
> children's record album entitled "Planet of the Apes: A Musical Trip"
> to my site.
>
> You can find more information and download the MP3s here:
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Thanks, John!
>
> Hunter
>

Appreciate the hard work, James.

I'm now in the agonizing position of having to choose between hanging
this on my office wall, or the official, 2008, Holly Valance calendar!

Hmmmmmmmm.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> James found and corrected a couple of typos in his calendar. A new
> version was posted on my site this morning:
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> I'd rather celebrate the memory of someone who's dead on the day they
> were born than remember that Marky-Mark lives at all.

I recently watched Walhberg in both 'The Departed' and 'Shooter' and I
thought he was actually pretty good in both. I'm not going to rush out
and celebrate his birthday but I am now willing to cut him some slack
regarding his performance in Apes '01 - maybe he just didn't have the
material or director to work with?

Davey-Dave

Ah thanks for clarifying what you meant by Greene's book..no I have
not read it ,must be his warped mind n mine think alike lol

Yeah, Dave's Studio days were great. They had reps from all the
studios there all day, and you could ask them anything, there were
laserdisc drawings and givaways, inside info about upcoming
releases... You felt like you were in an elite group of film purists,
before everyone was "in the know" with dvd special features.... The
execs would get to know you, and remember you each year... Some would
duck me because every year it was the same questions.... When is
Battle POTA going to be released?... How could you replace the Paul
Anka song in Jaws!?!.... Will Heroes (Henry Winkler, Harrison Ford)
ever be released, and if you do, don't replace the Kansas song... Why
isn't the Batman (Burton) trailer on the disc, it's better than the
movie...etc.... When laserdiscs died, a part of me died....

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> BTW, you lost me with this sentence: "The Studio Day the following
year
> he
> was really excited to tell me about the Japan set,"
> Â
> The studio day??
>
> Â
> Chris L.
>
>
> Dave's Laser Place (I think that's what it was called -- anyway,
it's
> out of business now) was THE place to go in LA to get laserdiscs in
the
> '90s. Every so often they would have an executive from one of the
> video companies at the store to answer questions from the fanatical
> collectors. Those were called "Studio Days."
>
> The store wasn't far from where Roddy McDowall lived and he was a
> well-known regular customer.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
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Another similar instance to this is the mini-series ''V'';when the
forger is duplicating the security passes.....the sound track being
played from the ''copying machine'' are those to be found on the
bridge of the Enterprise in the original Star Trek--- In
pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

>
> Here's another: the sound of the alarm that goes off in BATTLE when
> Caesar, Virgil, and MacDonald walk past the security device (when

Alma

> says "F6! F6!!"): the Batphone.
>
> Actually, I was watching Batman this past Friday night on the

American

> Life TV Network (the episode 'A Death Worse Than Fate') and a lot

of the

> consoles in the back room of Ekdal's Gnome Bookstore (yes, I

looked that

> up online) seemed familiar like they were used in BATTLE as well,

but I'm

> not 100% sure.
>
> And that's more minutiae about BATTLE than probably some of you

even care

> to read. :-)
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> Zach S <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> >>Wow! You know, until now, after reading your post, I hadn't

connected

> the
> two...the Batmobile and the spaceship reentry sound...I'm going to

have

> to
> re-watch PLANET over the coming weekend, thanks for the trivia,

Chris! <<

>
>
> I wrote:
>
> >>Here's a bit of Fox sound trivia for you: the roaring engine

sound that

> the
> spaceship make upon reentry at the beginning of PLANET is the same

sound

> used when the Batmobile was fired up in the 60's TV series (when

you'd

> see
> the flame shooting out of the back). Also, I could swear I hear the
> Batmobile engine "whine" a bit right at the scene when the camera

starts

> rotating upside down and then starts panning across the ground

right

> before the landing.
>

> In case anyone is interested:

> http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/p/planetoftheapes_tv..html"

I love the series, but can freely admit to its many flaws and
ludicrousness. This articles does a pretty good job of discussing the
series from a non-slobbering-fan point of view.

Hunter

At 09:27 AM 12/10/2007, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>Posted by: "Hunter Goatley" goathunter@... huntergoatley
> > In case anyone is interested:
> > http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/p/planetoftheapes_tv..html"
>I love the series, but can freely admit to its many flaws and
>ludicrousness. This articles does a pretty good job of discussing the
>series from a non-slobbering-fan point of view.

Agreed! Thanks for posting that, Chris--a very good read.

I found the 'sexual innuendos' unconvincing. I think those
interpretations say more about the reviewer than Roddy or the show.

Or, as one critic said when reviewing Eric Greene's book... 'Sometimes
a bus is just a bus'

Dave

> I found the 'sexual innuendos' unconvincing. I think those
> interpretations say more about the reviewer than Roddy or the show.

Yes, I agree.

Hunter

And that's more minutiae about BATTLE than probably some of you even
care
to read. :-)


Chris L.

Well here's more.... The control stand for the bomb in BATTLE is the is
the torpedo control stand from the Seaview Missile Room in "Voyage to
the Bottom of the Sea."

-- Rory


____________

When laserdiscs died, a part of me died....

When laserdiscs died.... I wished I could get back all the money I
spent on laserdiscs and the players!

-- Rory


____________

On Dec 10, 2007 9:25 AM, <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

Very interesting but we could do without the "double-entendre (sp)."

 

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 9:44 pm
Subject: [POTA] TV series DVD set article

In case anyone is interested:

http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/p/planetoftheapes_tv..html"

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I like that one, too but I have one question: wouldn't the blind ape have "smelled" the difference between humans and apes?

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] TV series DVD set article

I just happen to run across this by accident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUk84bKUDI0

Made me laugh.

-- Rory


____________

True but Burke had borrowed Galen's aftershave that morning. ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I like that one, too but I have one question: wouldn't the blind ape have "smelled" the difference between humans and apes?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jessica rotich jessicarotich@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 2:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [POTA] TV series DVD set article
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Currently rewatching the tv films, so it's great to know about the article.? Yes, I didn't agree with the double entendre--that doesn't convince me either.
>
> ?
>
> I think I watched "the Deception" 4 times this week.? I didn't know that Roddy cried real tears!? How do the actors do that?? I was surprised to see it after about the third time I watched it.? I had never noticed it before.? He's such a great actor.? I remembered from childhood that this was one of my favorite episodes.? I can still watch it a couple more hundred times and I won't get sick of it.?
>
> ?
>
> My 3-year old has gone ape, and insisted on watching it this morning.? Of course, how could you refuse such a request?? It was an? honor to press "play" again and again and again...
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2007 9:25 AM, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Very interesting but we could do without the "double-entendre (sp)."
>
> ?
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Lawless lawford42@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 9:44 pm
> Subject: [POTA] TV series DVD set article
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>
>
>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:

>
> I like that one, too but I have one question: wouldn't the blind ape

have "smelled" the difference between humans and apes?

>
> Bruce

That's a good point, Bruce and it would certainly be true of a
'primitive' ape.

I've always been torn between;

1: Are the apes we see in POTA supposed to be the same as the ones we
know today (other than having the power of speech) That's certainly
true of the Boulle novel

OR

2: Have the apes we see in POTA both mentally and physically evolved
from those we have today. Dan Striepeke states that the brief was to
design an 'evolved species of ape'.

If the latter then maybe, just like in humans, their sense of smell,
once vital to survival, has become dull with a lack of use?

It's ironic then to think that, had the planet not blown up, the apes
may have eventually evolved into the one thing they despised the
most... Us!

Dave

Very good!

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 5:46 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: TV series DVD set article

Although necessitated by humans in ape costumes the apes in the films sure LOOKED more evolved. Maybe their new noses ain't what they used to be.

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave B <smugster2000@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 5:58 pm
Subject: [POTA] Re: TV series DVD set article

It's one of the things that bothers me about ESCAPE -- all the humans
behave as if the future chimpanzees look like "real world" apes, but
they don't look anything like them!

-----Original Message-----
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: [POTA] Re: TV series DVD set article






Although necessitated by humans in ape costumes the apes in the films
sure LOOKED more evolved. Maybe their new noses ain't what they used to
be.



Bruce





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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 5:58 pm

Subject: [POTA] Re: TV series DVD set article

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:

>

> I like that one, too but I have one question: wouldn't the blind ape

have "smelled" the difference between humans and apes?

>

> Bruce



That's a good point, Bruce and it would certainly be true of a

'primitive' ape.



I've always been torn between;



1: Are the apes we see in POTA supposed to be the same as the ones we

know today (other than having the power of speech) That's certainly

true of the Boulle novel



OR



2: Have the apes we see in POTA both mentally and physically evolved

from those we have today. Dan Striepeke states that the brief was to

design an 'evolved species of ape'.



If the latter then maybe, just like in humans, their sense of smell,

once vital to survival, has become dull with a lack of use?



It's ironic then to think that, had the planet not blown up, the apes

may have eventually evolved into the one thing they despised the

most... Us!



Dave














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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

>
> OK, but my question was where did you get the original artwork from:
>
> "Is the artwork on the "New York is a Summer Festival" poster that Brent
> is holding:
>
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=11
>
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/99bf?b=12
>
> based on an actual advertising campaign, or what was used in the original
> film? If it's the latter, how did you get to see the whole image? From
> what I remember, you only see part of the poster when Brent is looking at
> it."
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>

There was an ad campaign at the time where the slogan was "New York is a Summer Festival" . I do not know if the artwork was from that campaign. The artwork I used was created in Photoshop based on what was visible from source material from screen caps and publicity photos from the film

>
> "junglejom" <junglejom@...> wrote:
>
> >>I actually created a framed poster complete with melted plastic <<
>

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In a message dated 12/11/2007 12:10:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

It's one of the things that bothers me about ESCAPE -- all the humans
behave as if the future chimpanzees look like "real world" apes, but
they don't look anything like them!

 

Yeah nobody notices the apes are twice normal size and walking upright...

 

Bruce

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In a message dated 12/11/2007 12:12:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, junglejom@... writes:

There was an ad campaign at the time where the slogan was "New York is a Summer Festival" . I do not know if the artwork was from that campaign. The artwork I used was created in Photoshop based on what was visible from source material from screen caps and publicity photos from the film

I remember the TV commercials where a sexy woman sings "NY is a summer...summer festival..."

 

Bruce

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I would tend to think it was number 2. Apes would need to evolve somewhat physically in order to be able to speak.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> That's a good point, Bruce and it would certainly be true of a
> 'primitive' ape.
>
> I've always been torn between;
>
> 1: Are the apes we see in POTA supposed to be the same as the ones we
> know today (other than having the power of speech) That's certainly
> true of the Boulle novel
>
> OR
>
> 2: Have the apes we see in POTA both mentally and physically evolved
> from those we have today. Dan Striepeke states that the brief was to
> design an 'evolved species of ape'.
>
> If the latter then maybe, just like in humans, their sense of smell,
> once vital to survival, has become dull with a lack of use?
>
> It's ironic then to think that, had the planet not blown up, the apes
> may have eventually evolved into the one thing they despised the
> most... Us!
>
> Dave
>
Isn't that part of the point of the first film, that the Ape culture had adopted some of the worst characteristics of man.

I think the Marvel adaption added a line that wasn't in the script that has one of the soldiers commenting that they were the biggest apes he'd ever seen.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> It's one of the things that bothers me about ESCAPE -- all the humans
> behave as if the future chimpanzees look like "real world" apes, but
> they don't look anything like them!
>

In the course of the comics, we've had a number of possible explanations
for the increase in both the size and intelligence of the apes:

1) Genetic engineering
2) Effects of the plague
3) Caesar dreaming changes into existence

I tend to see it as a result of all three.

>Posted by: "James" JamesA1102@... jamesa1102
>I would tend to think it was number 2. Apes would need to evolve
>somewhat physically in order to be able to speak.
>--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
> > 1: Are the apes we see in POTA supposed to be the same as the ones we
> > know today (other than having the power of speech) That's certainly
> > true of the Boulle novel
> > OR
> > 2: Have the apes we see in POTA both mentally and physically evolved
> > from those we have today. Dan Striepeke states that the brief was to
> > design an 'evolved species of ape'.

Hi there!!!!!!!



As i'm new to this forum & being such a heavy POTA fan, collecting
info & pics of the astronauts from the first 2 movies, can anyone tell
me if there was a close-up studio /sitting portraits of Jeff Burton as
Dodge, Tod Andrews ( Skipper) & James Franciscus ( Brent), in ANSA
costumes , like Heston ( with & without beard), Gunner & Stanley
( Stewart)



Thanks!!!



Robin

Chapter 11 will be going online next thursday and Chapter Twelve some time in the next 2-3 weeks or so after that. Again I thank all of you who have listened to this retelling of something that we all have such a love of and again I apologise for the long delays in releasing episodes...

--
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Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
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Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
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On Dec 12, 2007 10:44 AM, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:

Chapter 11 will be going online next thursday and Chapter Twelve some time in the next 2-3 weeks or so after that. Again I thank all of you who have listened to this retelling of something that we all have such a love of and again I apologise for the long delays in releasing episodes...

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

Sweet!! I've been waiting for the last TWO episodes to come out!!

I think everyone that has worked hard on this (cept that Colin guy) has done a great job!!!

--
Best Regards,
Colin Snow

Nice mention of the ESCAPE score here:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2007/12_Dec---My_One_Hundred_Favorite_Film_Scores_Part_Three.asp

Boy, wouldn't it be great if for the 40th Anniversary in 2008 we got a
CD box set of all the APES scores with ESCAPE finally complete and in
stereo?

-- Rory Monteith


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THis is the only one I could find at the
moment....Dodge included in a trio.....I've never seen
ANSA portraits of Brent or SKipper....

Welcome!!

Tim

--- Robin Medford <robinartwork60@...> wrote:

> Hi there!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> As i'm new to this forum & being such a heavy POTA
> fan, collecting
> info & pics of the astronauts from the first 2
> movies, can anyone tell
> me if there was a close-up studio /sitting portraits
> of Jeff Burton as
> Dodge, Tod Andrews ( Skipper) & James Franciscus (
> Brent), in ANSA
> costumes , like Heston ( with & without beard),
> Gunner & Stanley
> ( Stewart)
>
>
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>

________________________

OK, everyone has got to check this out...

I was watching CONQUEST tonight (on a 50" plasma) and spotted something
I've never noticed before. During the auction scene, in the shot where
Governor Breck and MacDonald walk out unto the terrace and sit down in
the black chairs, I think... I think... those chairs are the same as
the ones from Taylor's spaceship. I might be wrong, but if they're
not, then they're damn close.

-- Rory


____________

Thanks for that one!!!!!!!

Rob

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Speaking of the auction ....I have found out that this scene as well as the opening scenes in Conquest were filmed at the University of California in Irvine.....and thanks to Google Earth, I have finally pinpointed the building...I think....  NOw to get there someday and check it out for real!
I'm putting some comparson shots in a group folder called POTA Locations-Conquest/Irvine.

http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/e4de?c=

Tim


Haristas@... wrote:

OK, everyone has got to check this out...

I was watching CONQUEST tonight (on a 50" plasma) and spotted something
I've never noticed before. During the auction scene, in the shot where
Governor Breck and MacDonald walk out unto the terrace and sit down in
the black chairs, I think... I think... those chairs are the same as
the ones from Taylor's spaceship. I might be wrong, but if they're
not, then they're damn close.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, John!
>
> I've been curious about this for a long time.
>
> Dave
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to PotaDG's drzaiusdavis, I've added MP3s from a 1974
> > children's record album entitled "Planet of the Apes: A Musical Trip"
> > to my site.
> >
> > You can find more information and download the MP3s here:
> >
> > https://pota.goatley.com/
> >
> > Thanks, John!
> >
> > Hunter
> >
>

On Dec 12, 2007 5:05 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Bill, I have seen the links for these.  How do you get to the very first episodes?  I want to start from the beginning and work my way to what is current.

 

Thanks, Jessica.

On Dec 12, 2007 10:44 AM, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:

Chapter 11 will be going online next thursday and Chapter Twelve some time in the next 2-3 weeks or so after that. Again I thank all of you who have listened to this retelling of something that we all have such a love of and again I apologise for the long delays in releasing episodes...

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

I haven't tried looking for the University of California at Irvine yet,
but I have been able to find the spot on the Colorado where the canyon
scene was in PLANET. It's well below the Glen Canyon Dam and Page,
where the Colorado takes a sharp S curve. At one of the curves, on the
east side of the river, you'll see a V-shaped cut in the cliff top.
That's where they shot the "Where does this river lead to?" scene. I
visited the area twenty years ago and couldn't find that spot. Now if
only I'd had Google Earth then. Damn!

-- Rory


____________

can you give coordinates?  How about where the ship was? I haven't gotten out there yet but really want to sometime......

Tim

Haristas@... wrote:

I haven't tried looking for the University of California at Irvine yet,
but I have been able to find the spot on the Colorado where the canyon
scene was in PLANET. It's well below the Glen Canyon Dam and Page,
where the Colorado takes a sharp S curve. At one of the curves, on the
east side of the river, you'll see a V-shaped cut in the cliff top.
That's where they shot the "Where does this river lead to?" scene. I
visited the area twenty years ago and couldn't find that spot. Now if
only I'd had Google Earth then. Damn!

-- Rory

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>Posted by: "Haristas@..." Haristas@... haristas
>I haven't tried looking for the University of California at Irvine yet,
>but I have been able to find the spot on the Colorado where the canyon
>scene was in PLANET. It's well below the Glen Canyon Dam and Page,
>where the Colorado takes a sharp S curve. At one of the curves, on the
>east side of the river, you'll see a V-shaped cut in the cliff top.
>That's where they shot the "Where does this river lead to?" scene. I
>visited the area twenty years ago and couldn't find that spot. Now if
>only I'd had Google Earth then. Damn!

Very cool! How difficult was it to find?

I've been to that spot and didn't even realize it until I was
watching the movie some time later. The spot is called Horseshoe
Bend Overlook and is on an unmarked dirt road turnoff to the west a
few miles south of Page on U.S. Highway 89. If you look at Google
Earth the spot is marked and there are numerous photos of the site.
Also, when they were riding horses along the river before they
reached the beach site, that was filmed at Lee's Ferry Crossing a
few miles south of Horseshoe Bend.

Mike

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> can you give coordinates? How about where the ship was? I haven't
gotten out there yet but really want to sometime......
>
> Tim
>
> Haristas@... wrote: I haven't tried
looking for the University of California at Irvine yet,
> but I have been able to find the spot on the Colorado where the
canyon
> scene was in PLANET. It's well below the Glen Canyon Dam and
Page,
> where the Colorado takes a sharp S curve. At one of the curves,
on the
> east side of the river, you'll see a V-shaped cut in the cliff
top.
> That's where they shot the "Where does this river lead to?"
scene. I
> visited the area twenty years ago and couldn't find that spot.
Now if
> only I'd had Google Earth then. Damn!
>
> -- Rory
>
>

GO HERE for directions to ship crash site ,hope this
helps
http://www.cloudster.com/sets&vehicles/ApesShip/CrashSite/PofAshipCrashSiteMap.html"
--- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

> can you give coordinates? How about where the ship
> was? I haven't gotten out there yet but really want
> to sometime......
>
> Tim
>
> Haristas@... wrote:
> I haven't tried looking for the University of
> California at Irvine yet,
> but I have been able to find the spot on the
> Colorado where the canyon
> scene was in PLANET. It's well below the Glen
> Canyon Dam and Page,
> where the Colorado takes a sharp S curve. At one
> of the curves, on the
> east side of the river, you'll see a V-shaped cut
> in the cliff top.
> That's where they shot the "Where does this river
> lead to?" scene. I
> visited the area twenty years ago and couldn't find
> that spot. Now if
> only I'd had Google Earth then. Damn!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>