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| Group: pota |
Message: 44657 |
From: night wing |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: It's OFFICIAL- The Final episode of the BrokenSea POTA Audio Dra |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44658 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Power records: Beneath |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44659 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44660 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44661 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: It's OFFICIAL- The Final episode of the BrokenSea POTA Audio Dra |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44662 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Power records: Beneath |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44663 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44664 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44665 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44666 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Statue of Liberty Model |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44667 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44668 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44669 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44670 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44671 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44672 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44673 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44674 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44675 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44676 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44677 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44678 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Does anybody know POTA fan Alan Maxwell from Scotland? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44679 |
From: James |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44680 |
From: John |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44681 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44682 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44683 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44684 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: late movie bumper |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44685 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44686 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: late movie bumper |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44687 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44688 |
From: James |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44689 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44690 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44691 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44692 |
From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44693 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Primitive Orangs |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44694 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: New autographs |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44695 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44696 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44697 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44698 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44699 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44700 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44701 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44702 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44703 |
From: rassmguy |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44704 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44705 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44706 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44707 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44708 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44709 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44710 |
From: rassmguy |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44711 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44712 |
From: James |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44713 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44714 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44715 |
From: James |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44716 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: What to watch Feb. 8th |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44717 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes, 1/29/2008, 12:00 am |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44718 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: what are the greatest changes made in the script from beginning 1964 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44719 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: late movie bumper |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44720 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44721 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44722 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44723 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44724 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44725 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44726 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44727 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44728 |
From: Bobby Smyth |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44729 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes, 1/29/2008, 11:30 am |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44730 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44731 |
From: Joanne V. |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44732 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3900 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44733 |
From: James |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44734 |
From: James |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3900 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44735 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44736 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3900 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44737 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44738 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3901 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44739 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3901 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44740 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44741 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44742 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44743 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: dark shadows audio drama from the 60's |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44744 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44745 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: dark shadows |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44746 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44747 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44748 |
From: James |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: POTA Rarities 2 DVD |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44749 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44750 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44751 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 44752 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Rarities DVD |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44753 |
From: gp3085 |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Rarities DVD |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44754 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 1/30/2008 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Audio Adaption - Final Episode |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44755 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/30/2008 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Rarities 2 DVD |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44756 |
From: James |
Date: 1/30/2008 |
| Subject: Heston's Journal 1/30/68 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44657 |
From: night wing |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: It's OFFICIAL- The Final episode of the BrokenSea POTA Audio Dra |
.htmlI think the whole production has been outstanding,,,,and that includes you
On 1/25/08, Colin Snow <colindsnow@...> wrote:
Yep, he is, and I'm continuing my role as Commander Brent. Which I hope has been up to standers.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44658 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Power records: Beneath |
| Group: pota |
Message: 44659 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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I think if done right, the Apes' society can be shown to mirror many historic theocracies, 20th century societies that are totalitarian like communists or facists, and more recently the Taliban. Especially true when they blew up the Buddist (Hindu?) statues in Afganistan. It reminded me of Zaius in cave in the forbidden zone. Also, this would explain the limited availability of certain technology such as automatic weapons when the city looked like Fred Flitstone's beloved Bedrock. The high council only allowed certain old human technology to be used as THEY saw fit. Very interesting paralell. Oh, and yes I am a Christian.
Mario
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44660 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
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That's what Burton said in his commentary.
He wanted to leave it "open-ended" for the sequels. You could pretty much do
anything with it (and it would be an improvement).
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:59
PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: 'Planet of the
Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head
Did anyone read the original? The ending
was "Americanized" from the French novel. It could've been Earth, it
could've been a twin to Earth, Thade could've gone back in
time...
Jeff B
Also...Lincoln Memorial not
Jefferson
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:50
PM
Subject: [pota] Re: 'Planet of the
Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head
What I didn't like about the ending to the 2001 remake was the statue
of General Thade in the Jefferson Memorial. That didn't make sense
to me, given that Thade and the other apes were on a totally
different planet from Earth. At least, that's the impression I got.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In
pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim
\"apefan\"" <apefan23@.. .> wrote: > > well...IF they
do make another film and it has to be from Burton's world...I would
prefer a prequel taking place before Wahlberg's arrival as opposed to a
sequel taking place on the new earth with gorillas in cop
cars...... > > Haristas@... wrote: "All I can say about
this is: > > "Damn you! Damn (FOX) all to hell!" > Why in
heck would they make a prequel to such a lousy piece of trash as
> the 2001 > "remake"?! That makes absolutely no sense! >
> Zach " > > "No Sense" pretty much sums up the
corporate mentality at Fox!!!! > > Lots of money and no
sense! > > -- Rory > >
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More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail. aol.com >
> > > > >
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Make Yahoo your
homepage. >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44661 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: It's OFFICIAL- The Final episode of the BrokenSea POTA Audio Dra |
.htmlThank you for listening Emily! Oh yes- there will be more simians coming soon! Can't keep a good ape like Colin down-LOL
Seriously- Colin is GREAT in POTA, and yes- I am now starting the scripting for the audio adaption of Beneath the Planet of the Apes. May be a few months before episodes start coming out again though-so plaes bear with the dealys.
Again- thank you for listening and hollar me/us anytime man! This dream is too fun to wake up from!
On Jan 25, 2008 5:35 AM, night wing < em2postwith@...> wrote:
I think the whole production has been outstanding,,,,and that includes you
On 1/25/08, Colin Snow <colindsnow@...> wrote:
Yep, he is, and I'm continuing my role as Commander Brent. Which I hope has been up to standers.
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword...
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Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting http://www.brokensea.com and
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44662 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Power records: Beneath |
.htmlThat's a great article. It's too bad Power Records never did one for
Conquest. I always wondered why they skipped Conquest and went right
to Battle.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> A light-hearted review that made me smile.
>
> Dave
>
> <http://iagainstcomics.blogspot.com/2007/10/beneath-planet-of-apes-
power-records.htmlgt;
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44663 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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I am a practicing Christian AND a firm believer in evolution so I have no
problem with that aspect of the films...and I believe that nothing happens on
this Earth unless God wants it to...so if the apes DID take over it would be
God's will not Caesar's or Aldo's or whoever's. And it stands to reason that any
civilization would have series of religious beliefs that reflected their
'species' and culture hence the Lawgiver as the dominant prophet.
Bruce.
In a message dated 1/25/2008 6:47:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hoknescards@... writes:
I've been meaning to ask this question for a long
time
Do we have any christians etc that are huge apes
fans?
what does this movie say about religion or cults
?
do we relate this story to our own current
society?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44664 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
.htmlI, too, am a Christian, and I don't let movies get to me like that.
I look at them as nothing more than pure fantasy, meant to entertain,
and nothing more.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I am a practicing Christian AND a firm believer in evolution so I
have no
> problem with that aspect of the films...and I believe that nothing
happens on
> this Earth unless God wants it to...so if the apes DID take over it
would be
> God's will not Caesar's or Aldo's or whoever's. And it stands to
reason that
> any civilization would have series of religious beliefs that
reflected their
> 'species' and culture hence the Lawgiver as the dominant prophet.
>
> Bruce.
>
>
> In a message dated 1/25/2008 6:47:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> hoknescards@... writes:
>
>
> I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time
> Do we have any christians etc that are huge apes fans?
> what does this movie say about religion or cults ?
> do we relate this story to our own current society?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44665 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
.htmlWell, of course, they're make-believe as you said. It's the people that can't tell the difference that get offended.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff <RedSpy13@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 7:11 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ?
I, too, am a Christian, and I don't let movies get to me like that.
I look at them as nothing more than pure fantasy, meant to entertain,
and nothing more.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> I am a practicing Christian AND a firm believer in evolution so I
have no
> problem with that aspect of the films...and I believe that nothing
happens on
> this Earth unless God wants it to...so if the apes DID take over it
would be
> God's will not Caesar's or Aldo's or whoever's. And it stands to
reason that
> any civilization would have series of religious beliefs that
reflected their
> 'species' and culture hence the Lawgiver as the dominant prophet.
>
> Bruce.
>
>
> In a message dated 1/25/2008 6:47:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> hoknescards@ ... writes:
>
>
> I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time
> Do we have any christians etc that are huge apes fans?
> what does this movie say about religion or cults ?
> do we relate this story to our own current society?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************ **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL
Music.
> (http://music. aol.com/grammys/ pictures/ never-won- a-grammy?
NCID=aolcmp00300000 0025
> 48)
>
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Message: 44666 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/25/2008 |
| Subject: Statue of Liberty Model |
.htmlGreetings, everyone. Here is a link to download a free papercraft of
the Statue of Liberty. I thought it would be cool to make your own 3D
diorama of the climax on the beach at the end of the first film. That
would be a cool companion piece to the Icarus dioramas that are
available. Enjoy!
http://cp.c-ij.com/europe/papercraft/uk/building/statue_e.html"
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44667 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: BENEATH subway |
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.html While watching an episode of Batman (on the American Life TV Network)
earlier this evening), I'm pretty sure I saw what would ultimately be
converted into the subway platform from BENEATH. There are two sets of
tracks, but I think the set was modified and built outward for BENEATH so
that there was only the one set. I could be imagining things and it could
even be two completely different sets, but both Batman and BENEATH had
the same Art Director (Jack Martin Smith) so even if that were the case
you'd expect there to be similarities.
Part Two is on next Friday at 9PM if anyone wants to take a look and see,
and the episode will start on that same set because that's where the
cliffhanger left off.
On a related topic, and episode of The Green Hornet a few weeks back was
filmed at the same shipyard from the end of ESCAPE. And scenes from
tonights episode were clearly shot on the Fox Ranch.
Chris L. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44668 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
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In a message dated 1/25/2008 2:08:55 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Haristas@... writes:
I
think the idea was that Thade was supposed to have escaped in a second
spaceship, presumably to chase Marky-Mark, but the time-warp thingie sent
him back to Earth further back in time. How far back? No idea. What
happened? No idea. I guess a prequel would answer those questions, but
given the state of current cinema I'll bet it'll still make no sense
whatever -- if the rumor is true.
I don't see how a prequel would answer any of those questions.
It might tell us how the apes got in charge of the other planet,
but that was more or less answered in the first film. Not much
of interest there. Maybe a midquel would, but not much there
either. Thade shows up first they try and use his genetically
advance monkeyness -- he turns the tables. Leo pops up.
About as weak as the first one if you ask me. The only
interesting thing they could do is what happens next.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44669 |
From: brendan486 |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
.html> I don't see how a prequel would answer any of those questions.
> It might tell us how the apes got in charge of the other planet,
> but that was more or less answered in the first film. Not much
> of interest there. Maybe a midquel would, but not much there
> either. Thade shows up first they try and use his genetically
> advance monkeyness -- he turns the tables. Leo pops up.
> About as weak as the first one if you ask me. The only
> interesting thing they could do is what happens next.
>
Midquel, I like it.
How about...
A Kneequel - All the actors having to be kneeling.
A Treaquel - Where the film is a soppy syrupy happy happy joy outing.
A Geekquel - For the continuity boffins.
A Raquel - For Two reasons.
A Jekquel - A version from the Monster side.
A Fleaquel - The actors are replaced with a Flea Circus.
A Meekquel - eveyone mumbles and never make eye contact.
A Speilquel - Steven can Direct.
An Equalquel - Nobody gets one up on anyone or anything. ( Blank
film)
A Beakquel - A Version called Planet Of The Birds.
A Weekquel - Takes place over 1 week in realtime.
A Weakquel - Everyone is a coward.
Of now to write the outlines up for Fox....
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44670 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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.html "While watching an episode of Batman (on the American Life TV Network)
earlier this evening), I'm pretty sure I saw what would ultimately be
converted into the subway platform from BENEATH. There are two sets of
tracks, but I think the set was modified and built outward for BENEATH
so
that there was only the one set. I could be imagining things and it
could
even be two completely different sets, but both Batman and BENEATH had
the same Art Director (Jack Martin Smith) so even if that were the case
you'd expect there to be similarities."
Just for future reference, which episode of "Batman" would that be,
Chris?
Also, the art direction on PLANET, BENEATH and ESCAPE was principally
the job of William Creber. Jack Martin Smith was the supervising Head
of the Art Department at Fox for many years. Heads of departments
always got credit on movies back in those days, but the work was
usually done by those listed just under them.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44671 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
.htmlI would like to know which episode of Batman that was. My cable
provider doesn't have the American Life TV Network. I have all the
Batman and Green Hornet episodes on DVD, so I'll have to look for
that.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> While watching an episode of Batman (on the American Life TV
Network)
> earlier this evening), I'm pretty sure I saw what would ultimately
be
> converted into the subway platform from BENEATH. There are two sets
of
> tracks, but I think the set was modified and built outward for
BENEATH so
> that there was only the one set. I could be imagining things and it
could
> even be two completely different sets, but both Batman and BENEATH
had
> the same Art Director (Jack Martin Smith) so even if that were the
case
> you'd expect there to be similarities.
>
> Part Two is on next Friday at 9PM if anyone wants to take a look
and see,
> and the episode will start on that same set because that's where the
> cliffhanger left off.
>
> On a related topic, and episode of The Green Hornet a few weeks
back was
> filmed at the same shipyard from the end of ESCAPE. And scenes from
> tonights episode were clearly shot on the Fox Ranch.
>
>
> Chris L.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44672 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
|
.html "I would like to know which episode of Batman that was. My cable
provider doesn't have the American Life TV Network. I have all the
Batman and Green Hornet episodes on DVD, so I'll have to look for
that.
Jeff (RedSpy)"
Oh, good. Then you could post the scene on You Tube or something so we
can all see! Hint. Hint.
You don't have all the LAND OF THE GIANTS, do you? Because there's an
episode of that that shows the Grand Central Station set from BENEATH.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44673 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
.htmlRory, I have all of Land of the Giants, but they are on VHS and
packed away in storage. I'm trying to convert everything to DVD to
save space. I'll see if I can find a way to get the scenes from
Batman & Green Hornet and convert them to computer files to share,
once I find out what episodes they are.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "I would like to know which episode of Batman that was. My cable
> provider doesn't have the American Life TV Network. I have all the
> Batman and Green Hornet episodes on DVD, so I'll have to look for
> that.
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)"
>
> Oh, good. Then you could post the scene on You Tube or something
so we
> can all see! Hint. Hint.
>
> You don't have all the LAND OF THE GIANTS, do you? Because there's
an
> episode of that that shows the Grand Central Station set from
BENEATH.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44674 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/26/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
.htmlThe Land of the Giants episode is called "The Secret City of Limbo." It's from the second season.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 3:28 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: BENEATH subway
"I would like to know which episode of Batman that was. My cable
provider doesn't have the American Life TV Network. I have all the
Batman and Green Hornet episodes on DVD, so I'll have to look for
that.
Jeff (RedSpy)"
Oh, good. Then you could post the scene on You Tube or something so we
can all see! Hint. Hint.
You don't have all the LAND OF THE GIANTS, do you? Because there's an
episode of that that shows the Grand Central Station set from BENEATH.
-- Rory
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! -
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44675 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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| That's exactly how I feel, Jeff...they're only movies. Great ones, nevertheless, but still only movies. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 1/25/2008 6:12:38 PM To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? I, too, am a Christian, and I don't let movies get to me like that. I look at them as nothing more than pure fantasy, meant to entertain, and nothing more.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote: > > I am a practicing Christian AND a firm believer in evolution so I have no > problem with that aspect of the films...and I believe that nothing happens on > this Earth unless God wants it to...so if the apes DID take over it would be
> God's will not Caesar's or Aldo's or whoever's. And it stands to reason that > any civilization would have series of religious beliefs that reflected their > 'species' and culture hence the Lawgiver as the dominant prophet. > > Bruce. > > > In a message dated 1/25/2008 6:47:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > hoknescards@ ... writes: > > > I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time > Do we have any christians etc that are huge apes fans? > what does this movie say about religion or cults ? > do we relate this story to our own current society? > > > > > > > ************ **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (
http://music. aol.com/grammys/ pictures/ never-won- a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300000 0025 > 48) >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44676 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head |
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| You know what would have been great? Each of the original movies could have had an entire "movie" made between them! To bridge the gaps and tie up so many loose ends. PLANET to BENEATH
Zira and Cornelius' trial for "heresy"...how General Ursus came to power...Taylor passing through that rock wall illusion and being captured by the mutants, eventually placed in the cell...possibly showing scenes how Brent and Skipper were also in space, and how they too crash-landed (I still am going by Ansanaut's logic about how Brent and Skipper arrived in two separate ships, because Taylor's ship suffered structural damage when it crashed into Dead Lake and sank, and Skipper's also was a complete write-off...so where did the third functional ship come from, unless it was flown by Brent?)...the growing chimpanzee revolt...etc. BENEATH to ESCAPE
The major issue here would be as to how Dr. Milo found the third ship on their seaboard. Also what would be great is seeing exactly how Taylor was treated by the mutant society before the arrival of Brent. Certainly he couldn't have been kept in that cell all of the time! I'd always thought that maybe Mendez or some of his assistants had told him a few things regarding their society...maybe not everything, mind you, because when Brent told him about the Bomb, he seemed surprised to learn about it... ESCAPE to CONQUEST Whatever became of Lewis and Stevie? And it would be great to have seen Caesar in childhood, with Armando teaching him everything pertaining to 20th-century Earth, in addition to training him for his circus. CONQUEST to BATTLE Revolution On The Planet Of The Apes
has done a fantastic job on this...I have all of the comics, but it too would've been great to had this filmed... BATTLE and beyond... Marvel Comics, via the stories "Terror On The Planet Of The Apes", "Evolution's Nightmare", and other superb stories, has also done a great job here as well, but wouldn't you have liked to see these stories made into movies? Anything would be better than a "prequel" to the 2001 Burton film. Yecch. Zach -------Original Message-------
Date: 1/25/2008 2:09:26 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Rears its Ugly Head Are sure it wasn't the Lincoln Memorial? Ape Lincoln? ~Paul
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@.. .> wrote: > > What I didn't like about the ending to the 2001 remake was the statue > of General Thade in the Jefferson Memorial. That didn't make sense > to me, given that Thade and the other apes were on a totally
> different planet from Earth. At least, that's the impression I got. > Just my opinion, for what it's worth. > > Jeff (RedSpy) > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote: > > > > well...IF they do make another film and it has to be from Burton's > world...I would prefer a prequel taking place before Wahlberg's > arrival as opposed to a sequel taking place on the new earth with > gorillas in cop cars...... > > > > Haristas@ wrote: "All I can say > about this is: > > > > "Damn you! Damn (FOX) all to hell!" > > Why in heck would they make a prequel to such a lousy piece of > trash as > > the 2001
> > "remake"?! That makes absolutely no sense! > > > > Zach " > > > > "No Sense" pretty much sums up the corporate mentality at Fox!!!! > > > > Lots of money and no sense! > > > > -- Rory > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > > http://webmail. aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44677 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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Websites come and go but I wondered what are your
definite favorite POTA websites
and why?
please include link if possible
My personal site is definitely Hunter's site - its
a site with everything a POTA fan could want multi-media wise
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44678 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Does anybody know POTA fan Alan Maxwell from Scotland? |
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I have never had an email address for
him
and my snail mail address for him is 10 yrs
old
I hope somebody knows how to find him on the
internet
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44679 |
From: James |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
.htmlHunter's site is great.
There is also Rich's Timeline site: http://rhandley.0catch.com/POTA
And Kass' TV Series site: https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/
And of course our group website: http://www.PotaMediaArchive.com/
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> Websites come and go but I wondered what are your definite favorite POTA websites
> and why?
> please include link if possible
>
> My personal site is definitely Hunter's site - its a site with everything a POTA fan could want multi-media wise
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44680 |
From: John |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
.htmlHunter's site is definately the one. From coloring pages, comics, to
downloadable Power Record sets. It's the website that's helped me share
my love of Planet of the Apes with my son & let him expereince so many
of the things I enjoyed at his age (without ruining my 30+ yr old
collection). Plus it's one of the only POTA sites that actually gets
updated now & again, thanks to everyone sharing their finds, instead of
hoarding them so nobody else gets them.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> Websites come and go but I wondered what are your definite favorite
POTA websites
> and why?
> please include link if possible
>
> My personal site is definitely Hunter's site - its a site with
everything a POTA fan could want multi-media wise
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44681 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
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| I would have to say Hunter's site, as well as Chris Shields' ANSANAUT site. These two are my own personal favorites. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 01/27/08 08:20:36 To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? Hunter's site is definately the one. From coloring pages, comics, to downloadable Power Record sets. It's the website that's helped me share my love of Planet of the Apes with my son & let him expereince so many of the things I enjoyed at his age (without ruining my 30+ yr old collection). Plus it's one of the only POTA sites that actually gets updated now & again, thanks to everyone sharing their finds, instead of hoarding them so nobody else gets them.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@ ...> wrote:
> > Websites come and go but I wondered what are your definite favorite POTA websites > and why? > please include link if possible > > My personal site is definitely Hunter's site - its a site with everything a POTA fan could want multi-media wise >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44682 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
.htmlHunter's site is terrific. I could never afford to buy ALL the classic APES posters and lobby cards...but I can see them any time I want there!
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 6:23 am
Subject: [pota] What do you think are the best POTA websites ?
Websites come and go but I wondered what are your definite favorite POTA websites
and why?
please include link if possible
My personal site is definitely Hunter's site - its a site with everything a POTA fan could want multi-media wise
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44683 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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>>Just for future reference, which episode of "Batman" would that be,
Chris? <<
>>I would like to know which episode of Batman that was. My cable
provider doesn't have the American Life TV Network. I have all the
Batman and Green Hornet episodes on DVD, so I'll have to look for that.
<<
End of Episode #17- 'True or False Face', and you'll see it at the
beginning of #18 'Holy Rat Race'. I forgot to mention that you also see a phone
booth in the background when they still had TELEPHONE across the top. I think in
BENEATH though Brent was looking at one of those walkup pay phones that
just has a hood over the top and down the sides. I'd have to double check. Take
a look and see what you think. I mean, even the rocks over the subway tracks
look familiar, though admittedly that's not something you're going to see a lot
of variation on.
The Green Hornet episode with what I believe to be the ESCAPE shipyard is
'The Secret of the Sally Bell' (right at the beginning), and the episode from
last Friday that appeared to be shot at the Fox Ranch was 'Seek, Stalk, and
Destroy'. The scenes are at the middle and towards the end when The Green Hornet
and Kato are going to where the stolen tank is being kept to try and negotiate
it's return.
I'd be curious to see that segment from 'Land of the Giants' as well.
In fact, I'll second Rory's suggestion for a You Tube clip showing these
different things... :-)
Chris L.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44684 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: late movie bumper |
| Group: pota |
Message: 44685 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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I sent a pretty detailed letter to someone at Fox recently listing the
rarities that are out there that have yet to be officially released (i.e.
the BENEATH NATO preview, the "That's Hollywood" episode covering all five
films), suggestion for new commentary tracks by surviving cast & crew
members, and some other odds and ends should there be 40th Anniversary Editions,
Blu-Ray versions, etc. I also suggested that with future rereleases, any bonus
material should be released with the respective film. For example, Don Taylor
directing ESCAPE and J. Lee Thompson directing CONQUEST should be on ESCAPE and
CONQUEST respectively, not PLANET. He responded pretty quickly and said
that he was impressed with the information and would forward it to the people
who would handle such things.
From there, I don't know what the next best step would be. E-mails to Fox
Home video, another online petition like what was done for the extended BATTLE,
or another approach altogether. It'd be easy enough to put together a detailed
form letter and post it in the files section for everyone to cut & paste.
Maybe
sending both e-mails and regular letters might help. Or these plus a
petition.
What does everyone think?
Chris L.
"As for a "way to lobby Fox".... I think letters work best, especially
if you send several, but I guess emails and on-line petitions do
something too. I don't think there's a chance of separate special
editions of each of the sequels. The best you can hope for is a box set
of all five films with a new set of featurettes and perhaps commentary
tracks for each film. Personally, I'd rather hope for a new 40th Anniversary
special edition of the classic original, then worry about the sequels
later." <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44686 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: late movie bumper |
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Wow Heston & Hunter!
No McDowall?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44687 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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I think it's too late for a 40th anniversary
edition if it's not already in the pipeline. POTA has been done to death on DVD
lately. But in 5 short years it'll be 50 years since the novel. Not that that
has anything to do with DVD but that's quite a milestone. That's the true start
of POTA.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:04
PM
Subject: [pota] Pensioning Fox (was:
Blu-Ray)
I sent a pretty detailed letter to someone at Fox recently listing the
rarities that are out there that have yet to be officially released (i.e.
the BENEATH NATO preview, the "That's Hollywood" episode covering all five
films), suggestion for new commentary tracks by surviving cast & crew
members, and some other odds and ends should there be 40th Anniversary
Editions, Blu-Ray versions, etc. I also suggested that with future rereleases,
any bonus material should be released with the respective film. For example,
Don Taylor directing ESCAPE and J. Lee Thompson directing CONQUEST should be
on ESCAPE and CONQUEST respectively, not PLANET. He responded pretty
quickly and said that he was impressed with the information and would
forward it to the people who would handle such things.
From there, I don't know what the next best step would be. E-mails to Fox
Home video, another online petition like what was done for the extended
BATTLE, or another approach altogether. It'd be easy enough to put together a
detailed form letter and post it in the files section for everyone to cut
& paste. Maybe
sending both e-mails and regular letters might help. Or these plus a
petition.
What does everyone think?
Chris L.
"As for a "way to lobby Fox".... I think letters work best, especially
if you send several, but I guess emails and on-line petitions do
something too. I don't think there's a chance of separate special
editions of each of the sequels. The best you can hope for is a box
set of all five films with a new set of featurettes and perhaps
commentary tracks for each film. Personally, I'd rather hope for a new
40th Anniversary special edition of the classic original, then worry
about the sequels later."
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44688 |
From: James |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
.htmlThose were on the Escape and Conquest DVDs in the Legacy box set.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote: > > For example, Don Taylor directing ESCAPE and J. Lee > Thompson directing CONQUEST should be on ESCAPE and CONQUEST > respectively, not PLANET.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44689 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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.html I don't think I mentioned this before but Fox will be releasing
Schaffner's PATTON on Blu-ray in June.
If the economy doesn't tank, the Blu-ray format takes off (not that the
format war is over and I correctly predicted the winner -- Eat that
Veetus!), and Fox starts opening the gates to the library, I expect to
see at least PLANET on Blu-ray by the end of the year, or the first
half of 2009.
Now, fight like apes!
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44690 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/27/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
.html"I think it's too late for a 40th anniversary edition if it's not
already in the pipeline. POTA has been done to death on DVD lately. But
in 5 short years it'll be 50 years since the novel. Not that that has
anything to do with DVD but that's quite a milestone. That's the true
start of POTA."
Veetus, let me clue you in. Does the name Shawn Belston mean anything
to you?
No?
IT SHOULD!
He's only the Vice President of Asset Management and Film Preservation
at 20th Century Fox, that's all! Are you going to tell me you don't
remember a couple years ago someone here or there talking about how Mr.
Belston was at the Eastman House in Rochester, New York, showing the
"work in progress," an archival restoration print of PLANET OF THE
APES? Why don't you do some Google searching on this Shawn Belston?
Did any of you others here happen to buy the 2-disc DVD edition of THE
SAND PEBBLES last June or reading anything about the work that went
into its restoration? If not, go to this link and educate yourselves:
http://www.ascmag.com/magazine_dynamic/July2006/PostFocus/page2.php
By the way, THE SAND PEBBLES comes to Blu-ray in June 2008.
Yes, Veetus, there is a Santa Claus and there's stuff already in the
pipeline.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44691 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.html
.html
Back when the film came out I remember a thread (on this group, I believe)
about Roeper saying that the remake was better than the original. Watching that
clip, you could almost see him reading off of the Fox written cue cards (more
effort than was put into the script, that's for sure) while making the numerous
stupid statements that he did.
And for the record, JP III was FAR more entertaining than Burton's (then)
latest cinematic abomination. Hell, I'd sooner read APE CITY again before
sittign through another viewing of POTA2001.
Chris L.
>>I avoid all things POTA2001, but was curious about this Ebert &
Roeper review of it. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=sYyiCQgOw38& feature=relatedWow.
Roeper calls it the best of the 2001 blockbusters *and* says it's better than
the original PotA. Clearly, he's an idiot. <<<.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44692 |
From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ? |
.htmlHunter's site is the best
2008/1/27, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>:
Hunter's site is terrific. I could never afford to buy ALL the classic APES posters and lobby cards...but I can see them any time I want there!
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 6:23 am Subject: [pota] What do you think are the best POTA websites ?
Websites come and go but I wondered what are your definite favorite POTA websites
and why?
please include link if possible
My personal site is definitely Hunter's site - its a site with everything a POTA fan could want multi-media wise
More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44693 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Primitive Orangs |
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.html After all these years, there's still stuff that only now sinks into my
dumb head. I was wondering about the scene in Conquest when Caesar gets
into the cage on the docks with the recently arrived Orangs---why are
those orangs so markedly primitive compared to the other, dressed
orangs we see elsewhere? The primitive orangs have really pronounced
eye ridges and a vestige of a neck 'frill' and I wonder is there some
hint of genetic modification of the stock before it's released? John,
Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44694 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: New autographs |
| Group: pota |
Message: 44695 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
.html
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Well, that's one thing Fox could do for the
40th anniversary, release the original on Blu-Ray, and "Behind the...", the
Edward G. test, etc. Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:19
PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Pensioning Fox (was:
Blu-Ray)
I don't think I mentioned this before but Fox will be releasing
Schaffner's PATTON on Blu-ray in June.
If the economy doesn't tank,
the Blu-ray format takes off (not that the format war is over and I
correctly predicted the winner -- Eat that Veetus!), and Fox starts
opening the gates to the library, I expect to see at least PLANET on
Blu-ray by the end of the year, or the first half of 2009.
Now,
fight like apes!
--
Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44696 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.html
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I don't buy that. Roeper wasn't paid to
promote POTA2001 or something. He honestly preferred it to the original. Some
feel that way. Some just don't get it and see it as an excuse for Heston to
overact. They prefer POTA2001's production value and Burtoney visuals. It's a
mediocre movie but devout "Apes" fans tend to make it worse than it is. We're
biased. I remember Ebert was shocked by Roeper's opinion.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:27
PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Ebert & Roeper on
POTA2001
Back when the film came out I remember a thread (on this group, I
believe) about Roeper saying that the remake was better than the original.
Watching that clip, you could almost see him reading off of the Fox written
cue cards (more effort than was put into the script, that's for sure) while
making the numerous stupid statements that he did.
And for the record, JP III was FAR more entertaining than Burton's (then)
latest cinematic abomination. Hell, I'd sooner read APE CITY again before
sittign through another viewing of POTA2001.
Chris L.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44697 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
.html.html
Aaaand as we know one or two of Hestons companions on the ship was also featured as a villain on Batman
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44698 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
.html" Well, that's one thing Fox could do for the 40th anniversary, release
the original on Blu-Ray, and "Behind the...", the Edward G. test, etc.
Jeff "
Does the name Shawn Belston mean anything to anyone here?
He's the Vice President of Asset Management and Film Preservation at
20th Century Fox. I remember two or three years ago someone here or
"the other group" talking about how Mr. Belston was at the Eastman
House in Rochester, New York, showing the "work in progress," an
archival restoration print of PLANET OF THE APES.
Did any one else here happen to buy the 2-disc DVD edition of THE SAND
PEBBLES last June or reading anything about the work that went into its
restoration? If not, go to this link, it's very interesting:
http://www.ascmag.com/magazine_dynamic/July2006/PostFocus/page2.php
By the way, THE SAND PEBBLES comes to Blu-ray in June 2008.
Yes, Veetus, there is a Santa Claus and there's stuff already in the
pipeline I'm sure.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44699 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.htmlI do tend to think that if Burton's version was the only version,
without the weight of the legacy of earlier Apes crushing down on
it,then it would have been given an easier ride by us all. Some bits
are stunning--the opening shots in space, the first shot of the
crashed spacecraft in the wilderness, the Apes charging into
battle.Without the really clunky nods to the original, the movie
would have been smoother, I think.The story is excellent in concept,
but a bit clumsily transferred onto screen--the novelisation is
really good and the two 'prequel' novels are, in my opinion,
excellent--the best bits of the whole Burton saga.John, Scrolls.
>
> I don't buy that. Roeper wasn't paid to promote POTA2001 or
something. He honestly preferred it to the original. Some feel that
way. Some just don't get it and see it as an excuse for Heston to
overact. They prefer POTA2001's production value and Burtoney
visuals. It's a mediocre movie but devout "Apes" fans tend to make it
worse than it is. We're biased. I remember Ebert was shocked by
Roeper's opinion.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Lawless
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:27 PM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
>
>
>
> Back when the film came out I remember a thread (on this group, I
believe) about Roeper saying that the remake was better than the
original. Watching that clip, you could almost see him reading off of
the Fox written cue cards (more effort than was put into the script,
that's for sure) while making the numerous stupid statements that he
did.
>
> And for the record, JP III was FAR more entertaining than
Burton's (then) latest cinematic abomination. Hell, I'd sooner read
APE CITY again before sittign through another viewing of POTA2001.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> >>I avoid all things POTA2001, but was curious about this Ebert &
Roeper
> review of it.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYyiCQgOw38&feature=related
>
> Wow. Roeper calls it the best of the 2001 blockbusters *and* says
> it's better than the original PotA.
>
> Clearly, he's an idiot. <<
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44700 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.html> I do tend to think that if Burton's version was the only version,
> without the weight of the legacy of earlier Apes crushing down on
> it,then it would have been given an easier ride by us all. Some bits
> are stunning--the opening shots in space, the first shot of the
> crashed spacecraft in the wilderness, the Apes charging into
> battle.
Perhaps, but I would have still hated the stupid humor (Limbo) and the
female chimp makeup.
Hunter <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44701 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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.html "I do tend to think that if Burton's version was the only version,
without the weight of the legacy of earlier Apes crushing down on
it,then it would have been given an easier ride by us all."
I like to think I'm a pretty good judge of movies, and without any bias
I feel perfectly fine in saying that POTA2001 is a terrible movie.
I am morbidly interested in knowing what the plots were to the two
"prequel" novels and what makes them excellent.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44702 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
.html>Re: What do you think are the best POTA websites ?
I agree with the masses--Hunter's and Kass's site are easily the
best. The ANSANAUT site is also fun. Unfortunately, there's a
surprisingly small number of quality POTA sites out there.
>Posted by: "James" JamesA1102@... jamesa1102
>There is also Rich's Timeline site: http://rhandley.0catch.com/POTA
Thanks for the plug, James! I've been working on a massive re-write
to the text of the site (which was largely a data dump, leaving me
too tired after compiling it to go back and edit the thing) and
should have it available soon...as well as a cool announcement about
the timeline's future. :)
>Posted by: "shanter2002" john@... shanter2002
>I do tend to think that if Burton's version was the only version,
>without the weight of the legacy of earlier Apes crushing down on
>it,then it would have been given an easier ride by us all.
I have to agree, John. I don't hate the 2001 version. Is it
inferior to the original? Absolutely. In pretty much every way
except for production value, in fact. But I do see things I like
about it. Several of the actors--Tim Roth in particular--are
fantastic. The look of the film is great, despite the Michael
Jackson-esque female chimps (I still have to wonder what the HELL
they were thinking with that one). And I actually quite liked the
novels and comics based on that film--much more than the actual film,
in fact. Unfortunately, POTA2001 also has a completely comatose
performance by Mark Wahlberg, truly horrid actors such as Estella
Warren (phenomenal to look at, sure...but hardly an actress),
characters with only half a dimension to them, and stupid humor
(Limbo....uggh). I really want to like the film, because it does
have some nice bits to it--and, depending on my mood, I actually do
like it sometimes. But ultimately, I consider it a failure. I don't
hate it the way many others do, but I do think it failed as a
followup to the original. It's a fun film at times...but since it's
inferior to the original, there's just no reason for it to have been
made in the first place. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44703 |
From: rassmguy |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> I am morbidly interested in knowing what the plots were to the two
> "prequel" novels and what makes them excellent.
Hi, Rory,
In truth, one reason the prequel novels (The Fall and Colony) are
great is that they barely even involve the film. They pick up with...
SPOLIER ALERT FOR ANYONE WHO HASN"T READ THEM
...the crash of the Oberon, 3,000 years before the film, and explain
how that crew survived. The characters are far better written than
those on film, and the plot keeps the book moving along at a brisk
pace. The planet the station crashes on is inhabited by two
extremely dangerous predator species, each of which finds humans and
apes tasty, so the humans genetically breed the apes to be smarter
and stronger, in an effort to create a fighting force able to defeat
the creatures. However, the apes come to see their lot in life--bred
to fight and die so humanity can survive--as unfair. At the core of
the books is Semos, the ape savior mentioned in the film (and an
anagram of Moses), who is raised by a human woman with a son the same
age. His name is David. The two brothers are inseparably close, so
when they get older and Semos sees the reality of the apes'
existence, he and David find themselves on opposite sides of the
conflict. I highly recommend both books, the central themes of which
are familial betrayal and racism/genocide.
There are two others as well (Force and Resistance), that are also
good reads, though those two might be less to your liking since they
are more directly conencted to the film. Those novels (written on a
young-adult level) take place several years before the film, when
Attar is a cadet, Ari is a teenager who gets into a lot of trouble,
Daena is being trained to be the future leader of her people, and
Thade is rising up through the ranks. I liked them, though being Y/A
books, they're not quite the same as The Fall and Colony. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44704 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.htmlI think he was just caught up in the hype, or just wanted to see his
quote in the ad, and if you asked him today, he would retract that
statement.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I don't buy that. Roeper wasn't paid to promote POTA2001 or
something. He honestly preferred it to the original. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44705 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.html.html
It was like seeing Dirk Digler kissing Michael Jackson. Gyeaaarrghhh!
Mario Medina ArjoHuntleigh Latin America 2602 NW 97 Avenue Miami, FL 33172 http://mariohnelatina@.../ Tel: 305-463-0526 Fax: 305-463-0216
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44706 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.html.html
Any Dark Shadows fans on here? I ask because as a big fan of Batman in comics(especially after Frank Miller's version) and the original POTA, I was treated to Tim Burton's "re-imaginations" of each. Now Johnny Depp will apparently do a big screen version of DS and I am worried that Burton will get the directorial nod.
Oh man!
Mario Medina ArjoHuntleigh Latin America 2602 NW 97 Avenue Miami, FL 33172 http://mariohnelatina@.../ Tel: 305-463-0526 Fax: 305-463-0216
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44707 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.htmlThe Fall and Colony sure sounds like it would make a better movie than
we got in 2001, but I'd really like to get things back to Earth.
-- Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy < handleyr@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 2:50 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> I am morbidly interested in knowing what the plots were to the two
> "prequel" novels and what makes them excellent.
Hi, Rory,
In truth, one reason the prequel novels (The Fall and Colony) are
great is that they barely even involve the film. They pick up with...
SPOLIER ALERT FOR ANYONE WHO HASN"T READ THEM
...the crash of the Oberon, 3,000 years before the film, and explain
how that crew survived. The characters are far better written than
those on film, and the plot keeps the book moving along at a brisk
pace. The planet the station crashes on is inhabited by two
extremely dangerous predator species, each of which finds humans and
apes tasty, so the humans genetically breed the apes to be smarter
and stronger, in an effort to create a fighting force able to defeat
the creatures. However, the apes come to see their lot in life--bred
to fight and die so humanity can survive--as unfair. At the core of
the books is Semos, the ape savior mentioned in the film (and an
anagram of Moses), who is raised by a human woman with a son the same
age. His name is David. The two brothers are inseparably close, so
when they get older and Semos sees the reality of the apes'
existence, he and David find themselves on opposite sides of the
conflict. I highly recommend both books, the central themes of which
are familial betrayal and racism/genocide.
There are two others as well (Force and Resistance), that are also
good reads, though those two might be less to your liking since they
are more directly conencted to the film. Those novels (written on a
young-adult level) take place several years before the film, when
Attar is a cadet, Ari is a teenager who gets into a lot of trouble,
Daena is being trained to be the future leader of her people, and
Thade is rising up through the ranks. I liked them, though being Y/A
books, they're not quite the same as The Fall and Colony.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44708 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
|
.html "Any Dark Shadows fans on here? I ask because as a big fan of Batman in
comics(especially after Frank Miller's version) and the original POTA,
I was treated to Tim Burton's "re-imaginations" of each. Now Johnny
Depp will apparently do a big screen version of DS and I am worried
that Burton will get the directorial nod.
Oh man!"
Yeah, Heath Ledger drops dead, but those two dips just keep on goin'!
What a world!
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44709 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.htmlHi Mario ! I am - and already had heard about Depp wanting to do Barnabus(spelling looks wrong, oh well) -they hadn't mentioned any director at that time - I agree with you - hope it will not be Burton. The original DS is pretty hard to replace - they found that out years ago - even with Grayson Hall's son writing scripts. I was not a big fan of 2001 Apes either.mariohnelatin@... wrote: Any Dark Shadows fans on here? I ask because as a big fan of Batman in comics(especially after
Frank Miller's version) and the original POTA, I was treated to Tim Burton's "re-imaginations" of each. Now Johnny Depp will apparently do a big screen version of DS and I am worried that Burton will get the directorial nod. Oh man!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44710 |
From: rassmguy |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> The Fall and Colony sure sounds like it would make a
> better movie than we got in 2001, but I'd really like
> to get things back to Earth.
Oh, agreed. I was very pleasantly surprised at how much i enjoyed both
books...but given a chance to return to the classic storyline, I'd be
much happier. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44711 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.htmlFor you Dark Shadows fans, here is a link to watch the very first TV
episode online. Enjoy!
Jeff (RedSpy)
http://www.tv.pop-cult.com/video/dark-shadows-1-01.htmlbr>
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Judy Watson <bettabeedee@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mario ! I am - and already had heard about Depp wanting to do
Barnabus(spelling looks wrong, oh well) -they hadn't mentioned any
director at that time - I agree with you - hope it will not be
Burton. The original DS is pretty hard to replace - they found that
out years ago - even with Grayson Hall's son writing scripts. I was
not a big fan of 2001 Apes either.
>
> mariohnelatin@... wrote: Any Dark Shadows fans on here?
I ask because as a big fan of Batman in comics(especially after Frank
Miller's version) and the original POTA, I was treated to Tim
Burton's "re-imaginations" of each. Now Johnny Depp will apparently
do a big screen version of DS and I am worried that Burton will get
the directorial nod.
> Oh man!
>
> Mario Medina
> ArjoHuntleigh
> Latin America
> 2602 NW 97 Avenue
> Miami, FL 33172
> http://mariohnelatina@.../
> Tel: 305-463-0526
> Fax: 305-463-0216
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44712 |
From: James |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, there's a surprisingly small number of quality POTA sites out there. > Oh, thanks a lot! ;-) <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44713 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.htmlThanks Jeff ! I am also a big POTA fan and I never missed the movies when they all aired those many years ago on CBS.Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote: For you Dark Shadows fans, here is a link to watch the very first TV episode online. Enjoy! Jeff (RedSpy) http://www.tv. pop-cult. com/video/ dark-shadows- 1-01.html"--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Judy
Watson <bettabeedee@ ...> wrote: > > Hi Mario ! I am - and already had heard about Depp wanting to do Barnabus(spelling looks wrong, oh well) -they hadn't mentioned any director at that time - I agree with you - hope it will not be Burton. The original DS is pretty hard to replace - they found that out years ago - even with Grayson Hall's son writing scripts. I was not a big fan of 2001 Apes either. > > mariohnelatin@ ... wrote: Any Dark Shadows fans on here? I ask because as a big fan of Batman in comics(especially after Frank Miller's version) and the original POTA, I was treated to Tim Burton's "re-imaginations" of each. Now Johnny Depp will apparently do a big screen version of DS and I am worried that Burton will get the directorial nod. > Oh man! > > Mario Medina > ArjoHuntleigh > Latin America > 2602 NW 97 Avenue > Miami, FL 33172 >
http://mariohnelati na@.../> Tel: 305-463-0526 > Fax: 305-463-0216 > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44714 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
.htmlI think Hunter's site offers the best variety of printed matter
(magazine articles, cards, etc.). I also think James does an excellent
job with our group site, with extremely rare photographs and other
downloads. I'm just happy I found both sites. LOL
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, there's a surprisingly small number of quality POTA
> sites out there.
> >
> Oh, thanks a lot! ;-)
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44715 |
From: James |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3899 |
.htmlAhh, thank you Jeff. It's nice to know you appreciate me even if Rich doesn't. ;-)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote: > > I think Hunter's site offers the best variety of printed matter > (magazine articles, cards, etc.). I also think James does an excellent > job with our group site, with extremely rare photographs and other > downloads. I'm just happy I found both sites. LOL > > Jeff (RedSpy) > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" JamesA1102@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, there's a surprisingly small number of quality POTA > > sites out there. > > > > > Oh, thanks a lot! ;-) > > >
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Message: 44716 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: What to watch Feb. 8th |
.htmlLooks like in celebration of POTA's 40th Anniversary on February 8th,
Animal Planet has just the politically correct show to watch, at 9:30
PM Eastern: the premiere of ESCAPE TO CHIMP EDEN.
Here's a sneak peek:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YwnYEsV7l3g
And, has anyone else here been watching ORANGUTAN ISLAND on the Animal
Planet?
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44717 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 1/28/2008 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes, 1/29/2008, 12:00 am |
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Message: 44718 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: what are the greatest changes made in the script from beginning 1964 |
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What do you feel are the most interesting changes,
or
updates, new ideas, character changes, setting,
technology etc?
There were numerous draft changes plus different
writers on the first film scripts
Even I have been reprinting the 1965 version of the
script in Ape Chronicles
which is not available on Hunters website or
anywhere online
So its interesting to see how changes were made
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44719 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: late movie bumper |
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As I recall, the bumpers on a lot of movies shown on television
usually rotated the names of the stars that were mentioned. This was also a
late night broadcast, so they probably weren't exactly paying 100% attention to
detail either.
Chris L.
>>Wow Heston & Hunter! No McDowall? <<
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44720 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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I know. They were also on the two disc version of BEHIND. My point in
mentioning them to Fox was to illustrate how the additional materials would be
best included with the movie that said material is most closely related to.
I figured that it couldn't hurt to suggest it.
Chris L.
>>Those were on the Escape and Conquest DVDs in the Legacy box set.
<<
>> For example, Don Taylor directing ESCAPE and J. Lee Thompson
directing CONQUEST should be on ESCAPE and CONQUEST respectively, not
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44721 |
From: Chris Lawless |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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Actually, I didn't know that. Who, and in which episodes?
Chris L.
>>Aaaand as we know one or two of Hestons companions on the ship was
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44722 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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Hey Chris:
Here are some of their appearances on TV. I imagine some of these are available on DVD on Netflix. Should be interesting to watch these guys in something else. Info. from IMDB
Robert Gunner
The Green Hornet" .... Detective (1 episode, 1966) ... aka The Kato Show (Hong Kong: English title: informal title)
Jeff Burton
Night Gallery" .... Deputy (1 episode, 1972) ... aka Rod Serling's Night Gallery (USA)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44723 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
.html"Actually, I didn't know that. Who, and in which episodes?
Chris L.
>>Aaaand as we know one or two of Hestons companions on the ship was
also
featured as a villain on Batman "
Jeff Burton is in a Joker episode of "Batman" and Robert Gunner is in
one of the "Green Hornet"s. Check IMDB
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44724 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: BENEATH subway |
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.html "Hey Chris:
Here are some of their appearances on TV. I imagine some of these are
available on DVD on Netflix. Should be interesting to watch these guys
in something else. Info. from IMDB
Robert Gunner
The Green Hornet" .... Detective (1 episode, 1966)
... aka The Kato Show (Hong Kong: English title: informal title)
Our Man Flint (1966) (uncredited) .... Agent 0008
Jeff Burton
Batman" .... Shamrock (1 episode, 1968)
- The Joker's Flying Saucer (1968) TV episode .... ShamrockBatman"
.... Shamrock (1 episode, 1968)
- The Joker's Flying Saucer (1968) TV episode .... Shamrock
Night Gallery" .... Deputy (1 episode, 1972)
... aka Rod Serling's Night Gallery (USA)"
If you rent from Netflix, you can also see Robert Gunner, and PLANET DP
Leon Shamroy, in a 1967 Doris Day movie called CAPRICE, and you can
really see a lot of Robert Gunner in a Vincent Price movie called THE
JACKALS (1967). Netflix has them both. You can have a day of Robert
Gunner.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44725 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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thanks Jeff!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44726 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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Hey Betta:
Have you rewatched all of those old shows? Im on collection 15 now, and still hooked. The show is like a drug...LOL Maybe we should start our own DS discussion group here on yahoo. If I could only remember my access information for Yahoo!
Mario Medina ArjoHuntleigh Latin America 2602 NW 97 Avenue Miami, FL 33172 http://mariohnelatina@.../ Tel: 305-463-0526 Fax: 305-463-0216
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44727 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
.htmlHi Mario ! I used to watch DS regularly on Sci-fi and I rented a volume from Netflix to catch up on a sequence I never saw all the way through. I find a need to want to watch it every once in awhile. There are some DS groups on here but I never really joined any. Have you read the novelizations by Lara Parker ? Her second one was excellent.mariohnelatin@... wrote: Hey Betta: Have you rewatched all of those old shows? Im on collection 15 now,
and still hooked. The show is like a drug...LOL Maybe we should start our own DS discussion group here on yahoo. If I could only remember my access information for Yahoo!
Looking for last minute shopping deals?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44728 |
From: Bobby Smyth |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
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.html Well given that the Ancient Romans decried the early Christians
as ''atheists'' due to their practice of believing in only one god and
not multiple gods like the romans did,and given that the apes had
their prophet/lawgiver who looked after their ''religious'' needs then
I'd reckon it is a bit of a moot point..all the apes did was when they
got in power they had a different way of looking at things..which is
what the christians did when they went around converting the so called
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44729 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes, 1/29/2008, 11:30 am |
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| Reminder from: |
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Planet of the Apes |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44730 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: does Planet of the Apes promote atheism ? |
.htmlTim Burton's Apes did leave some people questioning whether there could
be a God.John, Scrolls.
>
> Well given that the Ancient Romans decried the early Christians
> as ''atheists'' due to their practice of believing in only one god
and
> not multiple gods like the romans did,and given that the apes had
> their prophet/lawgiver who looked after their ''religious'' needs
then
> I'd reckon it is a bit of a moot point..all the apes did was when
they
> got in power they had a different way of looking at things..which is
> what the christians did when they went around converting the so
called
> pagans who had their religions well before christianity reared its
head
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44731 |
From: Joanne V. |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
.htmlI loved watching Dark Shadows when it was on ABC in the afternoons. I could not wait to get home from school to watch it. I never even thought about watching it on DVD. Thanks for the suggestion. Judy Watson <bettabeedee@...> wrote: Hi Mario ! I used to watch DS regularly on Sci-fi and I rented a volume from Netflix to catch up on a sequence I never saw all the way through. I find a need to want to watch it every once in awhile. There are some DS groups on here but I never really
joined any. Have you read the novelizations by Lara Parker ? Her second one was excellent.mariohnelatin@ aol.com wrote: Hey Betta: Have you rewatched all of those old shows? Im on collection 15 now, and still hooked. The show is like a drug...LOL Maybe we should start our own DS discussion group here on yahoo. If I could only remember my access information for Yahoo!
Be a better friend, newshound, and
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44732 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3900 |
.html>Posted by: "James" JamesA1102@... jamesa1102
>Ahh, thank you Jeff. It's nice to know you appreciate me even if Rich
>doesn't. ;-)
LOL! Sorry, James--I figured this group's site was a given since
that's where we were posting from. :)
But yes, I should definitely have listed it alongside Hunter and
Kass's site. Oh, and also Bill Holloweg's audio drama site. (See,
this is why I dread giving out kudos...inevitably, I forget someone
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44733 |
From: James |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Pensioning Fox (was: Blu-Ray) |
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The problem is that you're giving them too much credit to extrapolate that.
The BTS footage from Escape and Conquest were on the 2 disc Behind DVD but that was not a FOX DVD release so it is irrelevant. And they were only on the 2nd disc of the 35th Anniversary release for Planet, not in the Legacy box set edition which was the latest release. They'll just see that request as something already done in the last release and move on. They won't get the point. These are not smart people. You have to spell things out for them.
A better tactic would have been to stoke their egos by thanking them for including the BTS footage on the Escape and Conquest DVDs, respectively, and then ask that any additional BTS stuff be included on the proper films disc when they are released in Blu-Ray format.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote: > > I know. They were also on the two disc version of BEHIND. My point in > mentioning them to Fox was to illustrate how the additional materials > would be best included with the movie that said material is most closely > related to. I figured that it couldn't hurt to suggest it. > > Chris L. > > > > "James" JamesA1102@... wrote: > > >>Those were on the Escape and Conquest DVDs in the Legacy box set. << > > > Chris Lawless lawford42@... wrote: > > >> For example, Don Taylor directing ESCAPE and J. Lee Thompson > directing CONQUEST should be on ESCAPE and CONQUEST respectively, not > PLANET. << >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44734 |
From: James |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3900 |
.htmlToo little, too late buddy. Poor Glen cried himself to sleep because of your snub. ;-)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote: > > > LOL! Sorry, James--I figured this group's site was a given since > that's where we were posting from. :) >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44735 |
From: mariohnelatin@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
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not yet...looks good
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44736 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3900 |
.htmlas did all the audio versions....poor simian soundbytes-LOL
On Jan 29, 2008 10:35 AM, James < JamesA1102@...> wrote:
Too little, too late buddy. Poor Glen cried himself to sleep because of your snub. ;-)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote: > > > LOL! Sorry, James--I figured this group's site was a given since
> that's where we were posting from. :) >
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword...
Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.net The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk Planet of the Apes at http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting http://www.brokensea.com and
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44737 |
From: Judy Watson |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shawdows OT |
.htmlHi Josie, that's what I did,too. Its funny how you never forget those good things from your youth -I didn't mention before but I also saw POTA at the movies - it was a double feature with MASH - I'll never forget the shock I felt when they flashed on Liberty. "Joanne V." <josievan@...> wrote: I loved watching Dark Shadows when it was on ABC in the afternoons. I could not wait to get home from school to watch it. I never even thought about watching it on DVD. Thanks for the suggestion. Judy Watson
<bettabeedee@ yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Mario ! I used to watch DS regularly on Sci-fi and I rented a volume from Netflix to catch up on a sequence I never saw all the way through. I find a need to want to watch it every once in awhile. There are some DS groups on here but I never really joined any. Have you read the novelizations by Lara Parker ? Her second one was excellent.mariohnelatin@ aol.com wrote: Hey Betta:
Have you rewatched all of those old shows? Im on collection 15 now, and still hooked. The show is like a drug...LOL Maybe we should start our own DS discussion group here on yahoo. If I could only remember my access
information for Yahoo!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44738 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3901 |
.html>James and Bill wrote:
>as did all the audio versions....poor simian soundbytes-LOL
> >*Too little, too late buddy. Poor Glen cried himself to sleep because
> > of your snub. ;-)*
<sigh>
Well, I have a solution that will keep me from leaving anyone else out:
EVERY PLANET OF THE APES SITE BUT MINE SUCKS.
Ahem.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44739 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 3901 |
.htmlLOL- you so bad RICH!
On Jan 29, 2008 12:01 PM, Rich Handley < handleyr@...> wrote:
>James and Bill wrote: >as did all the audio versions....poor simian soundbytes-LOL > >*Too little, too late buddy. Poor Glen cried himself to sleep because > > of your snub. ;-)*
<sigh>
Well, I have a solution that will keep me from leaving anyone else out:
EVERY PLANET OF THE APES SITE BUT MINE SUCKS.
Ahem.
(Just kidding. Don't cry, Glen.)
-- Bill Hollweg Have Sword...
Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my fantasy Audio Drama- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio www.brokensea.net The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk Planet of the Apes at http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting http://www.brokensea.com and
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44740 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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In a message dated 1/28/2008 11:05:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,
goathunter@... writes:
Perhaps, but I would have still hated the stupid humor (Limbo)
I had edited a version sans all his quips and the clunky nods
to the series and Hestons over-the-top scene. It ran much
smoother. You can do the same thing with Blue Velvet.
A friend of mine just cut all the scenes that didn't feature
Dennis Hopper's Frank Booth. I think it ran 20 mins.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44741 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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In a message dated 1/28/2008 4:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mariohnelatin@... writes:
Any
Dark Shadows fans on here?
I'm more a fan of the opening then the show.
I even remember the sponsor was Tide.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44742 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
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In a message dated 1/28/2008 4:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mariohnelatin@... writes:
I ask
because as a big fan of Batman
I've been watching the Green Hornet and Lost in Space.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44743 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: dark shadows audio drama from the 60's |
| Group: pota |
Message: 44744 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Ebert & Roeper on POTA2001 |
.htmlI have MAD Magazine parodies of Batman & Lost in Space, if you are
interested. Just let me know.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/28/2008 4:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> mariohnelatin@... writes:
>
> I ask because as a big fan of Batman
>
>
>
> I've been watching the Green Hornet and Lost in Space.
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44745 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: dark shadows |
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Dark Shadows is an amazing series - my favorite TV
Series ever
I had never seen it being too young. It was
cancelled before I was born
but i bought the first dvd box set in June
2006
and after a week I was hooked
I watched all 1225 episodes in 8
months
and my sister even got hooked and watched them all
as well
they are all available easily on dvd through ebay
etc.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44746 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows |
.htmlI like werewolves and vampires and all things monster, but I never got
into DS. It always looked cheap to me, even when I first saw it in '66
when it was on ABC. I guess it's because soap operas are shot on video
and are mostly just talk, talk, talk. I did like the opening credits
to DS, and the first movie they did was OK.
-- Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes < hoknescards@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 5:49 pm
Subject: [pota] dark shadows
Dark Shadows is an amazing series - my favorite TV
Series ever
I had never seen it being too young. It was
cancelled before I was born
but i bought the first dvd box set in June
2006
and after a week I was hooked
I watched all 1225 episodes in 8
months
and my sister even got hooked and watched them all
as well
they are all available easily on dvd through ebay
etc.
#AOLMsgPart_2_ce717162-3ec5-4863-bd56-60f384689893
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44747 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
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I might agree that its initial appearance does seem
that way
i wasn't hooked until i watched about 5
episodes
i had to give it a chance
and buy then i realized how great the acting
was
and then the story reeled me in
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:24
PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Dark Shadows
I like werewolves and vampires and all things monster, but I never got
into DS. It always looked cheap to me, even when I first saw it in '66
when it was on ABC. I guess it's because soap operas are shot on video
and are mostly just talk, talk, talk. I did like the opening credits
to DS, and the first movie they did was OK.
--
Rory
-----Original Message----- From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@ shaw.ca> To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent:
Tue, 29 Jan 2008 5:49 pm Subject: [pota] dark shadows
Dark Shadows
is an amazing series - my favorite TV Series ever I had never seen it
being too young. It was cancelled before I was born but i bought
the first dvd box set in June 2006 and after a week I was hooked I
watched all 1225 episodes in 8 months and my sister even got hooked and
watched them all as well they are all available easily on dvd through
ebay etc.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44748 |
From: James |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: POTA Rarities 2 DVD |
.htmlThis is a very special announcement. Our good friend Hunter has done it again and put together a 2nd Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities2/).
The new DVD contains:
The POTA 30th Anniversary Party
- E! Report
- CBS 2 Report
- The 30th Anniversary Party
Retrospectives
- That's Hollywood (upgraded)
- ET Cover Story
- A&E Aliens & Monsters
Bumpers and Promos
- CBS TV Fall Preview 1974
- CBS Friday Night Movies `76
- CBS Late Movie `77
- AMC TV Kim Hunter
- AMC TV Charlton Heston
- AMC TV Roddy McDowall
- Roddy McDowall
Laserdisc & DVD Extras
- U.S. Laserdisc Slideshows
- Japanese TV Series DVD Menu
- Japanese DVD: William Creber Interview
Conventions
- Starcon `98
Spoofs
- The Rerun Show: Married with Chimps
- Mad TV Elvis/POTA Spoof
This a wonderful collection of rare moments and a must for the DVD collection of any serious POTA fan. And there are two ways you can get your own copy:
- Send $2.50 (inside the U.S.) or $3.50 (outside the U.S.) to Greg P. via his PayPal account: urko3085@.... If you don't have a PayPal account email Greg at the same email to arrange to send him the payment by Money Order.
- Send me a blank DVD-R or DVD+R with a self addressed stamped envelope (email me privately for my address. Or if that is too much trouble:
That's all you have to do. Well worth the time & cost.
Additionally, anyone who wants a Rarities 2 DVD Wrap and Disc label, they can be Downloaded from the Group's Files section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Rarities%202%20DVD/ .
Once again thanks to Hunter for putting this DVD together and to everyone who contributed all the rare gems from their own video collections to make this happen. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44749 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
.htmlI was a big fan of Dark Shadows in the sixties, as well. I remember
rushing home after school to watch it every afternoon. The short-
lived remake was not very good, though. I have both of the
movies, "House of Dark Shadows" & "Night of Dark Shadows" on VHS, and
recently converted them to DVD. The episodes on DVD are a huge
collection, and will take a while to collect.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> I like werewolves and vampires and all things monster, but I never
got
> into DS. It always looked cheap to me, even when I first saw it
in '66
> when it was on ABC. I guess it's because soap operas are shot on
video
> and are mostly just talk, talk, talk. I did like the opening
credits
> to DS, and the first movie they did was OK.
>
> -- Rory
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 5:49 pm
> Subject: [pota] dark shadows
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> Dark Shadows is an amazing series - my favorite TV
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> I had never seen it being too young. It was
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> but i bought the first dvd box set in June
> 2006
> and after a week I was hooked
> I watched all 1225 episodes in 8
> months
> and my sister even got hooked and watched them all
> as well
> they are all available easily on dvd through ebay
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Message: 44750 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
.htmlWell, I sometimes got into it, but it would lose me again.
Anyway, I liked NIGHT OF DARK SHADOWS and that had in it Thayer David,
Count Saknussem in JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH which was
produced by Fox, which later made PLANET OF THE APES, and now this
thread is a little less OT!
-- Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes < hoknescards@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Dark Shadows OT
I might agree that its initial appearance does seem
that way
i wasn't hooked until i watched about 5
episodes
i had to give it a chance
and buy then i realized how great the acting
was
and then the story reeled me in
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Message: 44751 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Dark Shadows OT |
.htmlOh yeah, I forgot Thayer David was in both Dark Shadows movies AND in
the TV series. He did like 223 episodes! (Must have needed the money!)
-- Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff < RedSpy13@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 6:35 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Dark Shadows OT
I was a big fan of Dark Shadows in the sixties, as well. I remember
rushing home after school to watch it every afternoon. The short-
lived remake was not very good, though. I have both of the
movies, "House of Dark Shadows" & "Night of Dark Shadows" on VHS, and
recently converted them to DVD. The episodes on DVD are a huge
collection, and will take a while to collect.
Jeff (RedSpy)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I like werewolves and vampires and all things monster, but I never
got
> into DS. It always looked cheap to me, even when I first saw it
in '66
> when it was on ABC. I guess it's because soap operas are shot on
video
> and are mostly just talk, talk, talk. I did like the opening
credits
> to DS, and the first movie they did was OK.
>
> -- Rory
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Hoknes ...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 5:49 pm
> Subject: [pota] dark shadows
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> Dark Shadows is an amazing series - my favorite TV
> Series ever
> I had never seen it being too young. It was
> cancelled before I was born
> but i bought the first dvd box set in June
> 2006
> and after a week I was hooked
> I watched all 1225 episodes in 8
> months
> and my sister even got hooked and watched them all
> as well
> they are all available easily on dvd through ebay
> etc.
> Â
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44752 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Rarities DVD |
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.html Greg, please send me the link to your PayPal account so that I can pay
you for the DVD. Thank you in advance.
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Message: 44753 |
From: gp3085 |
Date: 1/29/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Rarities DVD |
.htmlJeff:
I can do that, but please e-mail me privately and let me know if
you're in the U.S. or outside the U.S. so I can send you an invoice
link for the proper amount.
Thanks,
Greg
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
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> Greg, please send me the link to your PayPal account so that I can
pay
> you for the DVD. Thank you in advance.
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> Jeff (RedSpy)
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Message: 44754 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 1/30/2008 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Audio Adaption - Final Episode |
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.html Bill,
Just how much fun did you have, bellowing `You maniacs! You blew it up!?
And did the neighbors knock on the walls to complain?
And so it ends and I don't want to let it go without making some comment.
So was it any good? Debatable I'm sure you either loved it or hated
it. Was it perfect? Of course not, was it fun? Hell yeah!
I've heard each and every episode in what became something of a
routine, I'd download onto my iPod and listen in on the journey to and
from work. As I said before it's hard to judge `stylistic' choices
they are just that, a matter of personal taste. Some things I would
have done different - but that doesn't necessarily mean for the better.
The voice cast were variable it's a given that some would be more
talented and that some would be more suited to their roles than others
but it would be really petty and mean for me to single anybody out.
The one thing I truly believe is that everybody gave it their best and
I can't ask anyone for more than that.
There were moments throughout the production when I laughed along with
the drama and, I confess there were moments where I laughed at it. The
(IMHO) somewhat comic sound effects used when Taylor was getting
beaten by the guards gave me a fit of the giggles but hey! I often
laugh at inappropriate moments.
Most was easy to follow, some was confusing (Taylor's last broadcast
message? Couldn't make that out!).
I have to say that I think Bill is 100%, certifiably, insane for even
considering a project of this scope. Having helped produce an audio
drama myself and in only a very small capacity - my mind just
freezes at the sheer number of obstacles he would have faced along the
way. The variable quality of recordings, the lack of commercially
available sound FX, the need to express what characters were seeing
through audio alone, the inability to ask for alternate takes, the
frustration of knowing a single, missed, fraction of a beat has
spoiled a scene
The list goes on, and on, and on
That the results
were even coherent is nothing short of a miracle and a true testament
to the man's determination.
Sure, if this were from a professional studio I'd be a lot less
forgiving, but Bill's an amateur I don't mean that in a mean
spirited way, but in the purest sense of the word doing what he does
for love or passion. Doing this from a bedroom, or garage, or
wherever. No funding, and using (compared to a Pro studio) budget
equipment
If you just stop for a moment and think about any of that, then IMHO
what he achieved really is remarkable.
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Message: 44755 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/30/2008 |
| Subject: Re: POTA Rarities 2 DVD |
.html> Additionally, anyone who wants a Rarities 2 DVD Wrap and Disc label,
> they can be Downloaded from the Group's Files section:
They can also be downloaded from the links at the top of my page:
https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities2/
> Once again thanks to Hunter for putting this DVD together and to
> everyone who contributed all the rare gems from their own video
> collections to make this happen.
I'm ashamed to admit that I don't remember all the contributors to
this disc, as some of the items were sent in a couple of years ago.
Much of this disc's contents came from Cougar. Whitty contributed the
contents from the Japanese DVDs, Greg contributed the U.S. laserdisc
extras, a couple of the items came from my collection, and, sadly,
I've forgotten who sent the rest (the CBS promos, the CBS Fall TV
Preview---great finds, and I'm embarrassed that I've lost track of who
sent them). In any case, thanks to everyone!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 44756 |
From: James |
Date: 1/30/2008 |
| Subject: Heston's Journal 1/30/68 |
.htmlHere is a expert from Charlton Heston's book 'The Actor's Life'. This entry in his journal was made 40 years ago today after a test screening of PLANET OF THE APES:
January 30. The APES running tonight was successful. The film comes off very well, including the black comment. I was a little disappointed in my own performance. There didn't seem to be enough weight to it, somehow. Some of it was cut, of course, but I still felt let down. All the talk afterward was good, but you can discount most of that.
[This seems to have been my opinion when I first saw APES, thouh I'm very proud of the film now. I guess I expected a little more.You always expect a little more.]
Anyone who wants to buy the book can find it through Amazon.com.
Thanks to John Roche and Rory Montieth for their help on this.
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