>
> The Belcourt in Nashville will be showing a new 35mm print of "Planet
> of the Apes" Saturday through Monday, February 7 through 9.
>
> http://www.belcourt.org/events?id=61138
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> PLANET OF THE APES (1968) Sat.-Mon., Feb. 7-9
>
> In this, the first in the APES saga, Hestons stone-chiseled features
> and bare chest bring us the movie that was to create an empire. After
> an accident in space, astronaut George Taylor (Heston) finds that he
> has crash-landed on a strange planet where humans are subservient to
> the Ape-Lords of the world. Finding himself less than welcomed, Taylor
> endures trials and tortures from the highly intelligent simians,
> forcing him to utter the first words ever spoken by a human to the
> apes, keep your hands off me you damn dirty apes! Taylor desperately
> tries to regain his freedom and get off of the God-forsaken planet,
> only to discover that this foreign land may not be as distant as he
> suspected. Dir Franklin J. Schaffer, 1959, USA, 112 min. New 35mm
> print courtesy of Criterion Pictures.
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Woohoo! I'm finally going to get to see PotA in a theater!
>
> Hunter
>

>>i dont think "ape with chains" in credits refers to this ape[aldo]

>>I believe they are just random. I remember playing at my friends'

>>On Moral Orel (I think that's the name), he was returning 4 books

>>Already been checked into. A great place.

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Lawless

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:18 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: loyola marymount college

Did you find any of the POTA material? The list here (http://www.lmu. edu/Page19842. aspx) seems to indicate there's quite a bit of Apes material there, plus stuff from when Jacobs was trying to produce his version of Dune.

 

 

Chris L.

 

 

 

"Jeff K." <veetus@earthlink. net> wrote:

 

>>Already been checked into. A great place. <<

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We're coming to the end of the year in which Charlton Heston died and I thought I'd pose this question: Why do some people seem to absolutely hate Heston? I bring it up because I just read a review of "Valkerie" ( http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 39537 )and they were talking about Tom Cruise and his baggage and they suddenly pulled Heston out of the hat and gave him serious venom. I know he had a reputation as a staunch conservative and there was the NRA thing but I don't recall any really serious thing that should bring out the hate. I remember Tim Roth said he couldn't stand being on the set with him during POTA2001, and that George Clooney made a remark that Heston deserved his Alzheimer's. Stuff like that. Any comments on why people would, not just disagree with him, but hate him?

Heston was a right-winger and Hollywood, largely because of the legacy of the blacklist, hates right-wingers, also Heston was once on the other side and Hollywood really can't stand what they see as a traitor to liberalism.

You all should hear Joe Russo on this subject.

-- Rory

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Well, it could be that Heston was considered, within the film community, a "turn-coat". Going back years he wasn't always a right-winger - in fact he was extremely liberal. He even participated in civil rights marches. I have no idea what turned him in a different direction, but I'm sure that his change of thinking, from one end of the spectrum to the other upset many in Hollywood. It's a strange town. I mean, no one wants to talk how much of a S.O.B. Ronald Regan was along with his wife when they worked for McCarthy as spies within the Hollywood community turning in people for investigation for the crimes commity. Go figure. - Scott B.

The bitterness in Hollywood over the McCarthy era will go on for some time. Liberalism tends to dominate in any artistic community because of the tolerance that's needed in dealing with the wide variety of people involved. Conservatives tend to be the rather square types, though often the turn out to have some pretty kinky secrets.

As for Heston... I wouldn't say he was ever a liberal in the more extreme sense, he was a Roosevelt Democrat and when the party got more radicalized because of Vietnam, which Heston supported, he left. John Kennedy was supposedly a liberal, but I think most liberals today look back at him as rather a hawk. You have to remember that one of the big things that happened in 1968, besides PLANET coming out, was that the Democratic Party spilt over Vietnam and the liberals ran out most of the conservatives.

I think the real reason Heston is hated by so many is because of the things he said and did for the NRA, which is pretty radical over gun rights. Eventually it'll be forgotten and the movies will endure.

-- Rory

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Anyway, just days after the Columbine massacre, Good Ol' Chuck Heston
thought it'd be a great idea to fly into Denver, hold a giant NRA rally
and tell us why guns are really, really good.

Very, very tasteless and insensitive, and, despite my great admiration
for Charlton Heston the actor, I will never forgive Charlton Heston the man.

Scott

The thing you have to remember about the NRA types is that they are a VERY paranoid bunch, and Heston was once their leader (think Ursus). They think the government wants to take all their guns away and that then the military will take over and we'll have a dictatorship. They really believe this. It's crazy, but they simply can't see it any other way and they're insensitive to those that see the easy availability of guns as a public health and safety issue. For them, you HAVE to have private ownership of guns in order to have democracy. It's as American as apple pie, and this kind of mentality isn't going to be out of the American psyche for many generations to come.

-- Rory

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AN Ursus and two Gorilla Soldiers are announced... .looking pretty damn good...

and of course, as I feared, some cutesy baby versions of main characters.. ..

http://www.hottoys. com.hk/product. php?cat=74

Yeah, they look better than the Sideshows, though the real hair is a problem, but the Ursus figure looks really good. I didn't get Sideshow's Ursus figure because I thought it had problems, but this one I'll have to get.

-- Rory

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>I absolutely recognize and have observed a distinct anti-Heston

> We're coming to the end of the year in which Charlton Heston died

>

I believe you can find these scripts on Hunter's site: https://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html" 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@...> wrote:
>
> I was reading the apes article from the dec,2008 starlog mag,it
> mentioned 3 scrips of unfilmed apes tv series episodes:
>
> 1, a episode where galon is on trial by a group of humans living in NY
> subway.Virdon is him lawyer.
>
> 2,a episode where a ape family comes to grips with a radio
> transmiter.Virdon tries to use to contact a superior human base.
>
> 3, a episode where there is a group of human and apes who seek to join
> together both apes and humans.
>
> these 3 unseen tv series episods seem really interesting.If only thay
> were filmed,maybe thay could have helped the show last longer than 1
> season.Any comments? Are there a way to view the scrips unline? I think
> all of us would love to read them!
>
> Ronnie
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@...> wrote:
>
> I was reading the apes article from the dec,2008 starlog mag,it
> mentioned 3 scrips of unfilmed apes tv series episodes:
>
> 1, a episode where galon is on trial by a group of humans living in NY
> subway.Virdon is him lawyer.
>
> 2,a episode where a ape family comes to grips with a radio
> transmiter.Virdon tries to use to contact a superior human base.
>
> 3, a episode where there is a group of human and apes who seek to join
> together both apes and humans.
>
> these 3 unseen tv series episods seem really interesting.If only thay
> were filmed,maybe thay could have helped the show last longer than 1
> season.Any comments? Are there a way to view the scrips unline? I think
> all of us would love to read them!
>
> Ronnie
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I believe you can find these scripts on Hunter's site:
> https://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html"
> <https://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html">
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@> wrote:
> >
> > I was reading the apes article from the dec,2008 starlog mag,it
> > mentioned 3 scrips of unfilmed apes tv series episodes:
> >
> > 1, a episode where galon is on trial by a group of humans living
in NY
> > subway.Virdon is him lawyer.
> >
> > 2,a episode where a ape family comes to grips with a radio
> > transmiter.Virdon tries to use to contact a superior human base.
> >
> > 3, a episode where there is a group of human and apes who seek to
join
> > together both apes and humans.
> >
> > these 3 unseen tv series episods seem really interesting.If only
thay
> > were filmed,maybe thay could have helped the show last longer
than 1
> > season.Any comments? Are there a way to view the scrips unline? I
> think
> > all of us would love to read them!
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
>

> what are the episodes called on hunters site? the three I listed.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@...> wrote:
> what are the episodes called on hunters site? the three I listed.Has
> anyone read these 3 scripts? Where that worth reading?
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I believe you can find these scripts on Hunter's site:
> > https://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html"
> > <https://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html">
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was reading the apes article from the dec,2008 starlog mag,it
> > > mentioned 3 scrips of unfilmed apes tv series episodes:
> > >
> > > 1, a episode where galon is on trial by a group of humans living
> in NY
> > > subway.Virdon is him lawyer.
> > >
> > > 2,a episode where a ape family comes to grips with a radio
> > > transmiter.Virdon tries to use to contact a superior human base.
> > >
> > > 3, a episode where there is a group of human and apes who seek to
> join
> > > together both apes and humans.
> > >
> > > these 3 unseen tv series episods seem really interesting.If only
> thay
> > > were filmed,maybe thay could have helped the show last longer
> than 1
> > > season.Any comments? Are there a way to view the scrips unline? I
> > think
> > > all of us would love to read them!
> > >
> > > Ronnie
> > >
> >
>

> Thanks to hunters website I can know here and read the 4 apes 45record
> with booklet.I remember having these when I was 8 years old.Brought
> back a lot of memories.What happened to the conquest one? I have the
> 1st set,bought it at a show 10 years ago.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike R" <mego73@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [pota] Re: OT: Why the Heston hate?



That pretty much sums it up. It paralels me in a way. I used to be quite
liberal but as time went on, became more conservative. Well, with my change
of heart came a loss of a couple liberal friends you couldn't approve of the
change in my thinking. But it was only a couple, with the rest of them being
fine with people that think different. But those couple were also the most
beligerently vocal about it as well.

I guess what I am trying to say is, the people with the most venomous
feelings for Chuck will be the ones you hear the most. The others who simply
disagreed with Chuck but liked him, you will never hear about, same with the
people who actually agree with Chuck.

One thing I always remember when Chuck died was an obituarity in a magazine
from Richard Dryfuss, who is Heston's political opposite. It was a very good
and very loving obituary.

>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:41 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Hot Toys figures

AN Ursus and two Gorilla Soldiers are announced... .looking pretty damn good...

and of course, as I feared, some cutesy baby versions of main characters.. ..

http://www.hottoys. com.hk/product. php?cat=74

Yeah, they look better than the Sideshows, though the real hair is a problem, but the Ursus figure looks really good.  I didn't get Sideshow's Ursus figure because I thought it had problems, but this one I'll have to get.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> Ronnie, for some reason, Power Records never issued a 45 rpm/book
set for
> CONQUEST. That's always puzzled me too.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: ronnie2467
>
> Date: 12/22/2008 5:15:32 PM
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [pota] power records booklet on hunters site
>
>
>
> Thanks to hunters website I can know here and read the 4 apes
45record
>
> with booklet.I remember having these when I was 8 years old.Brought
>
> back a lot of memories.What happened to the conquest one? I have
the
>
> 1st set,bought it at a show 10 years ago.
>
>
>
> Ronnie
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> AN Ursus and two Gorilla Soldiers are announced....looking pretty
damn good...
>
> and of course, as I feared, some cutesy baby versions of main
characters....
>
> http://www.hottoys.com.hk/product.php?cat=74
>

>>Yeah, I know. Kim Hunter didn't think much of BENEATH at all,

>>See shouldn't feel bad. Kim told me she didn't like it very much

>>Heh. Try telling THEM that while they're waiting. This past Friday

>>Omigod, why aren't there any single male supermodels waiting around

Here's a look at the new Ursus figure.

If anyone has trouble seeing them here, they've been uploaded to the Photos section: http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/d322 

Hey don't dis the Shat or Denny Crane will sue you;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> To be honest, though I certainly don't hate Heston, I've never thought
> he was all that great an actor. Entertaining? Absolutely! Engaging
> as hell to watch in action? Definitely. An integral part of POTA
> history? Indesputably. But a good actor? I'm not sold. In my
> opinion, he's right up there with William Shatner, Lawrence Olivier
> and John Schuck for over-the-top scenery-chewing and over-acting, and
> though I'm a great fan of his work (and theirs as well), I can't say
> I've ever been all that impressed with his ability to act.
>

>>You see?  Most people recognize BENEATH as crazy.  The

>>IFC - USA

>>My interpretation has always been "BENEATH is a mess," and I wish

>>Not only that, but one can also see how a half buried Statue of

>>I vote it is half-buried in the sand. That would match the fact

>>Library of Congress

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:04 AM

Subject: [pota] Monsters HD Ad

MonstersHD July Marathon Ad.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: POTA ; POTA DG

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 4:48 PM

Subject: [pota] Brad Pitt loves Apes

From http://celebs- hollywood. blogspot. com/2008/ 12/brad-pitt- movie-trivia..html"

" He has also appeared in two movies with the number twelve in the title, Ocean's Twelve (2004) and Twelve Monkeys (1995). His favorite movies are Planet of the Apes (1968) and Saturday Night Fever (1977). "

>
>
> Here's a look at the new Ursus figure.
>
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>
> If anyone has trouble seeing them here, they've been uploaded to the
> Photos section:
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/d322
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/d322>
>

Hope everyone had a great holiday. The next installment of THE ILLUSTRATED MONKEY PLANET is now available. Thanks again to Dave Ballard.

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On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Robert J. Sawyer <robertjsawyer@...> wrote:

OMG, these are gorgeous:

http://hottoys.com.hk/product.php?cat=74&pid=405

I hope they do Zira, Cornelius, and Zaius, too!

===

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----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Lawless

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 4:24 PM

Subject: [pota] ESCAPE locations

If anyone gets the American Life TV Network on their cable/satellite
provider, try and watch The Green Hornet tonight at 9:30 PM EST (repeats
at 11:30 PM) and see if you think the ship/shipyard they show at the
beginning (and throughout most of the story) is the same area/ship where
ESCAPE was filmed. It looks very familiar to me, but I wouldn't swear to
it either way.

Chris L.
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From: Chris Lawless

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 4:24 PM

Subject: [pota] ESCAPE locations

If anyone gets the American Life TV Network on their cable/satellite
provider, try and watch The Green Hornet tonight at 9:30 PM EST (repeats
at 11:30 PM) and see if you think the ship/shipyard they show at the
beginning (and throughout most of the story) is the same area/ship where
ESCAPE was filmed. It looks very familiar to me, but I wouldn't swear to
it either way.

Chris L.
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>>Kim did an episode of The Magician as well. <<

>>One of the great things about POTA is the

>>"Alot" of people here sure enjoy "this kind of rubbish!"

>>Speaking of Beneath, it was 35 years ago today that it premiered

>>What I'm asking is why would Brent have made that remark if he too

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
> Because he said "I DON'T KNOW HOW or WHAT WITH...". He knew his
spaceship was destroyed AND that there wasn't another, or else he
would have said "I KNOW HOW and WHAT WITH". The negative in the
sentence implies that there ISN'T another ship. If there was, he would
have gone to it. Simple.

>
> Thanks to Jeff (RedSpy), a PDF of an article about "Conquest" from
> FAMOUS MONTERS #95 has been added to my site.
>
> Also thanks to Jeff, I've started a new "merchandise ads" page. Jeff
> contributed several black-and-white ads from various '70s sci-fi
> magazines.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>

> Thanks to Jeff (RedSpy), a PDF of an article about "Conquest" from
> FAMOUS MONTERS #95 has been added to my site.

> > Thanks to Jeff (RedSpy), a PDF of an article about "Conquest" from
> > FAMOUS MONTERS #95 has been added to my site.
> >
> > https://pota.goatley.com/

> I tried to look at the PDF, but the Internet said no webpage found. =(

>>Thanks to Jeff (RedSpy), a PDF of an article about "Conquest"

>>Maybe, but most of the shipyards in L.A. and surrounding areas look

>>If anyone gets the American Life TV Network on their

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Lawless

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:13 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Rory's Blu-ray impressions so far...

Didn't Dehn's script specifically mention that THE END should come at the ending of the rear credits crawl? Was anyone here who was at the initial screening remember seeing this?

 

Chris L.

 

 

 

"drhasslein" <drhasslein@yahoo. com> wrote:

 

>>Did it end with the "THE END" like the initial preview version? <<

 

 

"Haristas@aol. com" <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

 

>> OK, now for the controversial thing I'm going to say and it's about
the "Preview Version" of CONQUEST, which I just finished watching.... <<

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> I received pota blu-ray set for Christmas, but cannot access the
> special features. Can anyone help me with this problem? I purchased
> a Samsung blu-ray player in November. Thanks to anyone who can help.

You could assume that Lisa said "No" and that the second half of Caesar's speech happened after the end titles of the 'Director's Cut'.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> ... the Director's Cut of CONQUEST is just a NEW perspective on the
> same events, "uncovering" some spots the Theatrical Cut didn't show at
> the time? So both can be *CANONICAL* versions, fundamentally.
> It's like watching the same object from two different views.
>
> Examples:
>
> 1- Lisa always said "NO", but one angle did show this, one angle didn't.
>
> 2- Caesar's speech is ONE and ONLY, but one version is "expanded", one
> isn't.
>
> Waiting your feedback on this.
>

>Posted by: "apecalypsenow" apecalypsenow@... apecalypsenow
>WHAT IF...
>... the Director's Cut of CONQUEST is just a NEW perspective on the
>same events, "uncovering" some spots the Theatrical Cut didn't show at
>the time? So both can be *CANONICAL* versions, fundamentally.
>It's like watching the same object from two different views.
>Examples:
>1- Lisa always said "NO", but one angle did show this, one angle didn't.
>2- Caesar's speech is ONE and ONLY, but one version is "expanded", one
>isn't.