--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Luiz Saulo Adami <apedami@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, my dear Ape friends around the World!
>  
> Happy New Ape Year!
>  
> God bless you!
>  
> Saulo Adami
> From Brazil
>
>
> Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados
> http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Luiz Saulo Adami

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:45 AM

Subject: [pota] HAPPY NEW APE YEAR!

Hey, my dear Ape friends around the World!   Happy New Ape Year!   God bless you!   Saulo Adami From Brazil

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Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! + Buscados: Top 10 - Celebridades - Música - Esportes

Well 2008 (the original film's 40th anniversary year) is over and it was a good year for POTA fans. 

The year started off with a marathon of all the films on AMC followed by subsequent marathons on Monster HD, the Fox Movie Channel and today's marathons on Encore Action & Movieplex.

There were revival shownings of Planet in theaters all across the country including at the Ziegfeld here in NYC. Several group members traveled to New York last March for this and I was lucky to finally meet them face to face. (Before this year I had not seen any of the films in a theater with an audience since the Go Ape! festival in 1974 and wound up seeing Planet on the big screen not once but 3 times as well as seeing Beneath again at Lincoln Center where we met Cindy Heston.)

All of the films were finally release on Blu-Ray disc including the original director's cut of Conquest. Thanks to FMC for including this verision of the film during their Thanksgiving marathon.

Mego retro figures were released by EMCE toys and Sideshow is now promising new highly detailed figures.

Sadly, we lost Charlton Heston this year along with Leonard Rosenman, Beverly Garland and other contributors to the POTA universe.

Of course the big news was that a new film is in development by 20th Century Fox. Whether this new film will be released before the end of this year still remains to be seen.

Let's all hope that 2009 is as good a year for POTA fans as 2008 was. Happy New Year!

--- On Thu, 1/1/09, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> Subject: [pota] Planet of the Apes 40th Anniversary Year
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 9:55 AM
> Well 2008 (the original film's 40th anniversary year) is
> over and it was
> a good year for POTA fans.
>
> The year started off with a marathon of all the films on
> AMC followed by
> subsequent marathons on Monster HD, the Fox Movie Channel
> and today's
> marathons on Encore Action & Movieplex.
>
> There were revival shownings of Planet in theaters all
> across the
> country including at the Ziegfeld here in NYC. Several
> group members
> traveled to New York last March for this and I was lucky to
> finally meet
> them face to face. (Before this year I had not seen any of
> the films in
> a theater with an audience since the Go Ape! festival in
> 1974 and wound
> up seeing Planet on the big screen not once but 3 times as
> well as
> seeing Beneath again at Lincoln Center where we met Cindy
> Heston.)
>
> All of the films were finally release on Blu-Ray disc
> including the
> original director's cut of Conquest. Thanks to FMC for
> including this
> verision of the film during their Thanksgiving marathon.
>
> Mego retro figures were released by EMCE toys and Sideshow
> is now
> promising new highly detailed figures.
>
> Sadly, we lost Charlton Heston this year along with Leonard
> Rosenman,
> Beverly Garland and other contributors to the POTA
> universe.
>
> Of course the big news was that a new film is in
> development by 20th
> Century Fox. Whether this new film will be released before
> the end of
> this year still remains to be seen.
>
> Let's all hope that 2009 is as good a year for POTA
> fans as 2008 was.
> Happy New Year!

> Well 2008 (the original film's 40th anniversary year) is over and it was
> a good year for POTA fans.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well 2008 (the original film's 40th anniversary year) is over and it was
> a good year for POTA fans.
>
> The year started off with a marathon of all the films on AMC followed by
> subsequent marathons on Monster HD, the Fox Movie Channel and today's
> marathons on Encore Action & Movieplex.
>
> There were revival shownings of Planet in theaters all across the
> country including at the Ziegfeld here in NYC. Several group members
> traveled to New York last March for this and I was lucky to finally meet
> them face to face. (Before this year I had not seen any of the films in
> a theater with an audience since the Go Ape! festival in 1974 and wound
> up seeing Planet on the big screen not once but 3 times as well as
> seeing Beneath again at Lincoln Center where we met Cindy Heston.)
>
> All of the films were finally release on Blu-Ray disc including the
> original director's cut of Conquest. Thanks to FMC for including this
> verision of the film during their Thanksgiving marathon.
>
> Mego retro figures were released by EMCE toys and Sideshow is now
> promising new highly detailed figures.
>
> Sadly, we lost Charlton Heston this year along with Leonard Rosenman,
> Beverly Garland and other contributors to the POTA universe.
>
> Of course the big news was that a new film is in development by 20th
> Century Fox. Whether this new film will be released before the end of
> this year still remains to be seen.
>
> Let's all hope that 2009 is as good a year for POTA fans as 2008 was.
> Happy New Year!
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well 2008 (the original film's 40th anniversary year) is over and it was
> a good year for POTA fans.
>
> The year started off with a marathon of all the films on AMC followed by
> subsequent marathons on Monster HD, the Fox Movie Channel and today's
> marathons on Encore Action & Movieplex.
>
> There were revival shownings of Planet in theaters all across the
> country including at the Ziegfeld here in NYC. Several group members
> traveled to New York last March for this and I was lucky to finally meet
> them face to face. (Before this year I had not seen any of the films in
> a theater with an audience since the Go Ape! festival in 1974 and wound
> up seeing Planet on the big screen not once but 3 times as well as
> seeing Beneath again at Lincoln Center where we met Cindy Heston.)
>
> All of the films were finally release on Blu-Ray disc including the
> original director's cut of Conquest. Thanks to FMC for including this
> verision of the film during their Thanksgiving marathon.
>
> Mego retro figures were released by EMCE toys and Sideshow is now
> promising new highly detailed figures.
>
> Sadly, we lost Charlton Heston this year along with Leonard Rosenman,
> Beverly Garland and other contributors to the POTA universe.
>
> Of course the big news was that a new film is in development by 20th
> Century Fox. Whether this new film will be released before the end of
> this year still remains to be seen.
>
> Let's all hope that 2009 is as good a year for POTA fans as 2008 was.
> Happy New Year!
>

TGIF! This week's installment of THE ILLUSTRATED MONKEY PLANET is now available. Thanks again to Dave Ballard.

To access click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm

New Videos are now available on the group website (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Videos.htm) including Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes (thanks to Rory M.) and the infamous POTA as Twilight Zone episode as well as an upgraded Simpsons video.

If you have a problem accessing them here, please go to the mirror site: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Group Website  - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• POTA Locations  - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• Cornelius' Journal  - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• The Art Gallery  - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section  - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
• The Photos Section  - POTA pics contributed by members.

Look at it this way: if BENEATH hadn't been made, none of the other projects would have either and it's doubtful that we'd all be here discussing one movie.

Personally, it's my favorite of the five.

Chris L.

I dare you to buy it on Blu-ray then!

-- Rory

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So FM did an article on every movie except the first, or is there an elusive old issue from 1968 that no one has turned up yet?

Chris L.

The FM issue with an article on PLANET is in the '68 issue with Barnabas Collins on the cover. I have it packed away someplace.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "farkle.freddy" <farkle.freddy@...> wrote:
>
> In POTA1, in his private interrogation of Taylor, Zaius insists "You
> are a mutant," and demands to know where in the forbidden zone he is
> from. But at movie's end, when tied up on the beach, Zaius warns
> Taylor, "You may not like what you find," in the forbidden zone, as if
> he knew Taylor was NOT from there. So did he ever buy Taylor's
> extraterrestrial story?
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] The series: is it true?

In some episodes it looks as though Roddy McDowall is wearing gloves (made up to look like ape hands) instead of having makeup on his hands.

The TV series was no doubt on a very tight budget

 

Al

---

From: apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 7:32:35 PM
Subject: [pota] The series: is it true?

Revealing mistakes: In many of the interior close-up shots, the actors'
own teeth are visible behind the teeth of their ape masks.

Is it true? So was the make-up (for the series) very bad?

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] The series: is it true?

In some episodes it looks as though Roddy McDowall is wearing gloves (made up to look like ape hands) instead of having makeup on his hands.

The TV series was no doubt on a very tight budget

 

Al

---

From: apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 7:32:35 PM
Subject: [pota] The series: is it true?

Revealing mistakes: In many of the interior close-up shots, the actors'
own teeth are visible behind the teeth of their ape masks.

Is it true? So was the make-up (for the series) very bad?

Revealing mistakes: In many of the interior close-up shots, the actors'
own teeth are visible behind the teeth of their ape masks.

Is it true? So was the make-up (for the series) very bad?

It's not a question of if the makeup was bad. The makeup was what it was. It was always a matter of how was the shot lit and how carefully were the cameras angled. The TV show actually had better makeup than BATTLE, but too often was harshly lit with the camera angled to show right into the mouths. Also, many of the actors didn't know how to use the makeup and would allow their mouths to just hang open as they spoke.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Watched BENEATH on Blu-ray again this morning. Â I don't know how
anyone could have problems with this transfer. Â The movie looks and
sounds fantastic and it's hard to believe it was almost forty years
ago it was filmed. Â Same goes for KELLY'S HEROES, which I also
watched again this morning. Â That DVD looks and sounds great too and
will be a must-have when it comes to Blu-ray.
>
>
>
> Here's a trivia question for everyone: Which actor had to redub a
line from PLANET for BENEATH, and what was the line?
>
>
>
>
> By the way, any of you here get the Westerns Channel? Â Yesterday
they showed a movie called THE WRATH OF GOD from 1972. Â Two actors
from BENEATH are in it, Victor Buono and Gregory Sierra. Â I never
knew before they made another movie together. Â Anyway, they share a
death scene that was rather bizarre. Â If you get the channel you
might want to check out when it's next on.
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:55 AM

Subject: [pota] Monkeying Around

Just to keep conversation going here....

If you could go back in a time machine and be an extra-for-a- day on the set or location of an APES film which one of the series would it be, what scene and what would you want to be, gorilla, chimp, orang or human, and why?

I'd want to be in PLANET -- of course -- on the day out on the Ape City set in the ranch when they were shooting the scene during the hearing.  It looked like a nice sunny summer day in 1967, all of the principals were on set and I could have been one of those extra apes walking around in the background.  I don't care if I had the makeup on or just a mask, nor if I were a chimp or gorilla, just as long as I wasn't a female chimp.  I think that scene was shot on my birthday on June 22, 1967, so I would have turned eight. So in reality I would have had to have been a child ape.

-- Rory 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> No he didn't. In his mind, Taylor was just a genetic mutation from the
> Forbidden Zone, thus a savage/primitive man BORN on the Planet of The
> Apes.
> "You may not like what you find" - Zaius doesn't really know Taylor is
> from the past of the Planet of the Apes, but just "theorizes" that the
> ruins belong to Taylor's ancestors... which is... TRUE in a way!
> Fantastic movie. Fantastic.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "farkle.freddy" <farkle.freddy@> wrote:
> >
> > In POTA1, in his private interrogation of Taylor, Zaius insists "You
> > are a mutant," and demands to know where in the forbidden zone he is
> > from. But at movie's end, when tied up on the beach, Zaius warns
> > Taylor, "You may not like what you find," in the forbidden zone, as if
> > he knew Taylor was NOT from there. So did he ever buy Taylor's
> > extraterrestrial story?
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> No he didn't. In his mind, Taylor was just a genetic mutation from the
> Forbidden Zone, thus a savage/primitive man BORN on the Planet of The
> Apes.
> "You may not like what you find" - Zaius doesn't really know Taylor is
> from the past of the Planet of the Apes, but just "theorizes" that the
> ruins belong to Taylor's ancestors... which is... TRUE in a way!
> Fantastic movie. Fantastic.
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "farkle.freddy" <farkle.freddy@> wrote:
> >
> > In POTA1, in his private interrogation of Taylor, Zaius insists "You
> > are a mutant," and demands to know where in the forbidden zone he is
> > from. But at movie's end, when tied up on the beach, Zaius warns
> > Taylor, "You may not like what you find," in the forbidden zone, as if
> > he knew Taylor was NOT from there. So did he ever buy Taylor's
> > extraterrestrial story?
> >
>

Harry at aintitcool picked the POTA 'rays as the 3rd best of the year, beating out the Godfathers and, well, 6 others. The only two to top it were "Sleeping Beauty" and another Fox sci-fi movie.

http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 39648

Yeah, and I got that other Fox sci-fi movie on Blu-ray too, and I haven't yet got around to watching all the extras, but before I do I guess I better go for a walk or try to get laid or something.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:32 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Blu-Rays believed boffo

Harry at aintitcool picked the POTA 'rays as the 3rd best of the year, beating out the Godfathers and, well, 6 others. The only two to top it were "Sleeping Beauty" and another Fox sci-fi movie.

  http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 39648

Yeah, and I got that other Fox sci-fi movie on Blu-ray too, and I haven't yet got around to watching all the extras, but before I do I guess I better go for a walk or try to get laid or something.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> Even worse, I'm more amazed how often IT'S NOT Roddy on camera!
> - Scott B
>
> --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] The series: is it true?
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 12:21 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In some episodes it looks as though Roddy McDowall is wearing
gloves (made up to look like ape hands) instead of having makeup on
his hands.
> The TV series was no doubt on a very tight budget
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
> From: apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@ yahoo.com>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 7:32:35 PM
> Subject: [pota] The series: is it true?
>
>
>
> Revealing mistakes: In many of the interior close-up shots, the
actors'
> own teeth are visible behind the teeth of their ape masks.
>
> Is it true? So was the make-up (for the series) very bad?
>

>>Here's a trivia question for everyone: Which actor had to redub a

>Please guys, Roy or James, can you send me via mail a pic showing
>these "normal" teeth behind the "ape" teeth, but look, I'm talking
>about the TV Series, so it must be a screenshot from the TV series.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
> As for me, I'd want to be a chimp. Because chimps were sympathetic
to man's
> plight. And I'd want to be in the first PLANET.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: Alex Ruiz
>
> Date: 1/3/2009 3:13:11 PM
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Monkeying Around
>
>
>
> Beneath: Ursus speech day.
>
> Extra: Gorilla.
>
> Why: Beneath, Rocks! :o)
>
>
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 9:55:51 AM
>
> Subject: [pota] Monkeying Around
>
>
>
>
>
> Just to keep conversation going here....
>
>
>
>
>
> If you could go back in a time machine and be an extra-for-a- day on
the set
> or location of an APES film which one of the series would it be,
what scene
> and what would you want to be, gorilla, chimp, orang or human, and why?
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd want to be in PLANET -- of course -- on the day out on the Ape
City set
> in the ranch when they were shooting the scene during the hearing. It
> looked like a nice sunny summer day in 1967, all of the principals
were on
> set and I could have been one of those extra apes walking around in the
> background. I don't care if I had the makeup on or just a mask, nor
if I
> were a chimp or gorilla, just as long as I wasn't a female chimp. I
think
> that scene was shot on my birthday on June 22, 1967, so I would have
turned
> eight. So in reality I would have had to have been a child ape.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Get a free MP3 every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it Now.
>

Maurice Evans: "Zira. Cornelius. Untie me!"

I always thought it was strange that they took the time to redub the line, but then showed Cornelius and Lucius running over to untie him. I can understand the line itself being redubbed because in the original there was more of an urgency when Zaius said "Untie me!!" (partially because of the gorilla soldiers riding back in and Zaius wanting to stop them from pursuing Taylor), but with the scene being re-edited in BENEATH it came across as much more subdued. Still, why not "Cornelius. Lucius. Untie me."?

I'd always thought the "Zira. Cornelius." part had been cut from PLANET.

Joe Russo told me it was a redub and that it was felt needed to reintroduce the characters, who would reappear later in the film.

I've always thought it odd that Lou Wagner gets a credit in BENEATH, though his character only appears via a clip from the previous movie, and Roddy McDowall gets no mention at all.

-- Rory

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https://pota. goatley.com/ images/wonderwom an/

https://pota. goatley.com/ images/wonderwom an/wonder_ woman_season_ 1-06.jpg

Those appliances don't look to me to be from any of the APES movies or TV show, but rather original sculpts.

-- Rory

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> Those appliances don't look to me to be from any of the APES movies
> or TV show, but rather original sculpts.

>>Just to keep conversation going here....

>Posted by: "LordTZer0@..." LordTZer0@... LordTZer0
>Extra's don't even talk to the director
>if they want to keep working that is.

Thanks Jeff. Those are great!

For those who want to view these scans, they can be found here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/1347482661/pic/list and here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/1312723045/pic/list

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Barkley" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> After looking at Hunter's ad scans, it made me think about magazine
> and newspaper articles that I never see any mention about. I added a
> couple of albums in the photo section with some of these. I didn't
> include things like MAD magazine 'cuz I figure most people remember
> that one. It wouldn't allow me to upload the pics from Make Up Artist
> magazine. I'll try again tomorrow. Also, the newspaper articles
> wouldn't fit in my scanner. I'm gonna try the one at work.
>
> Jeff B
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Is that head big enough or what?
> You never get an Ursus helmet over that!
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/4/2009 1:26:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> goathunter@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:26:34 +0000 apecalypsenow
<_apecalypsenow@apecalyps_
> (mailto:apecalypsenow@...) >
> wrote:
> >Please guys, Roy or James, can you send me via mail a pic showing
> >these "normal" teeth behind the "ape" teeth, but look, I'm
talking
> >about the TV Series, so it must be a screenshot from the TV
series.
> >
> This isn't from Apes, but is an example of the actor's teeth
> showing behind the Chambers-style makeup in an episode of
> "Wonder Woman":
>
> _https://pota.https://pota.https://pota.<WBRhtt_
> (https://pota.goatley.com/images/wonderwoman/)
>
>
_https://pota.https://pota.https://pota.<WBRhttp://pothttps://pota.http://
p_
> (https://pota.goatley.com/images/wonderwoman/wonder_woman_season_1-
06.jpg)
>
> Hunter
>
>
>
> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is
making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
>

If someone could tell me an episode, scene and shot where it occurs; I will.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> Please, guys, if you can, take a screen shot of the series where the
> MOUTH occurance is present... huge thanks.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is that head big enough or what?
> > You never get an Ursus helmet over that!
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/4/2009 1:26:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > goathunter@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:26:34 +0000 apecalypsenow
> <_apecalypsenow@apecalyps_
> > (mailto:apecalypsenow@) >
> > wrote:
> > >Please guys, Roy or James, can you send me via mail a pic showing
> > >these "normal" teeth behind the "ape" teeth, but look, I'm
> talking
> > >about the TV Series, so it must be a screenshot from the TV
> series.
> > >
> > This isn't from Apes, but is an example of the actor's teeth
> > showing behind the Chambers-style makeup in an episode of
> > "Wonder Woman":
> >
> > _https://pota.https://pota.https://pota.<WBRhtt_
> > (https://pota.goatley.com/images/wonderwoman/)
> >
> >
> _https://pota.https://pota.https://pota.<WBRhttp://pothttps://pota.http://
> p_
> > (https://pota.goatley.com/images/wonderwoman/wonder_woman_season_1-
> 06.jpg)
> >
> > Hunter
> >
> >
> >
> > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is
> making
> > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
> >
>

Zaius also says that Taylor won't survive in the Forbidden Zone, a statement that would seem at odds with their earlier exchange in his office. So it is hard to tell if Zaius ever changed his opinion of Taylor's story and origin. Maybe he was just tauting Taylor to see if he would reveal any information about where he came from.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "farkle.freddy" <farkle.freddy@...> wrote:
>
> In POTA1, in his private interrogation of Taylor, Zaius insists "You
> are a mutant," and demands to know where in the forbidden zone he is
> from. But at movie's end, when tied up on the beach, Zaius warns
> Taylor, "You may not like what you find," in the forbidden zone, as if
> he knew Taylor was NOT from there. So did he ever buy Taylor's
> extraterrestrial story?
>

My first reaction is that it is something seperate from the first article of faith. Honorius got no response to his first question so he moved on to another topic. Why hammer the same point twice?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, folks,
>
> Consider the following exchange from the first film:
>
> HONORIUS
> Tell the court, Bright Eyes--what is the second Article of Faith?
>
> TAYLOR
> I admit, I know nothing of your culture.
>
> HONORIUS
> Of course he doesn't know our culture--because he cannot think.
> (to Taylor) Tell us why all apes are created equal.
>
> Would you take that to indicate that the second Article of Faith says
> all apes are created equal? Or do you read that rule as being
> separate from the second Article of Faith? I'm debating how to
> interpret the exchange.
>
> Rich
>

>>Get a girlfriend and stop watching TV. Go for a walk or

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Zaius also says that Taylor won't survive in the Forbidden Zone, a
> statement that would seem at odds with their earlier exchange in his
> office. So it is hard to tell if Zaius ever changed his opinion of
> Taylor's story and origin. Maybe he was just tauting Taylor to see if he
> would reveal any information about where he came from.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "farkle.freddy" <farkle.freddy@> wrote:
> >
> > In POTA1, in his private interrogation of Taylor, Zaius insists "You
> > are a mutant," and demands to know where in the forbidden zone he is
> > from. But at movie's end, when tied up on the beach, Zaius warns
> > Taylor, "You may not like what you find," in the forbidden zone, as if
> > he knew Taylor was NOT from there. So did he ever buy Taylor's
> > extraterrestrial story?
> >
>

Thanks Dave!

Here is the direct link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BLU%20RAY%20GRABS/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> I tried an experiment last night and pointed my camera at the screen
> after pausing the image on the stills galleries.
>
> The results are predictably somewhat lacking but frankly I'm surprised
> it worked at all. At least those of us without Blu Rays can now see
> something.
>
> You can find the images in the files section in a folder named 'Blu
> Ray Grabs'
>
> Dave
>

Possibly. But Zaius also says to Taylor, "All my life I've awaited your coming and dreaded it, like death itself". So was Zaius waiting for an extraterrestrial human or a mutant?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "farkle.freddy" <farkle.freddy@...> wrote:
>
> Until I can talk to Zaius myself, I'll posit that he knew Taylor was not from the Forbidden
> Zone; Taylor was too advanced to have come from such a primitive place and culture, and
> at the same time too clueless about the Forbidden Zone and ape culture to have been
> from anywhere around there. Under those circumstances, Zaius would have had to
> believe that Taylor was from some place truly far away, maybe extra-terrestrial, but really
> just wanted Taylor to get the hell out his world.
>

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote:

> From: Dave B <smugster2000@...>
> Subject: [pota] BLU RAY Grabs
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 4:10 AM
> I tried an experiment last night and pointed my camera at
> the screen
> after pausing the image on the stills galleries.
>
> The results are predictably somewhat lacking but frankly
> I'm surprised
> it worked at all. At least those of us without Blu Rays can
> now see
> something.
>
> You can find the images in the files section in a folder
> named 'Blu
> Ray Grabs'
>
> Dave

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Tim apefan <apefan23@...> wrote:

These are great Dave! I love the pic of Roddy smokin talking to APJ....

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote:

> From: Dave B <smugster2000@...>
> Subject: [pota] BLU RAY Grabs
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 4:10 AM

> I tried an experiment last night and pointed my camera at
> the screen
> after pausing the image on the stills galleries.
>
> The results are predictably somewhat lacking but frankly
> I'm surprised
> it worked at all. At least those of us without Blu Rays can
> now see
> something.
>
> You can find the images in the files section in a folder
> named 'Blu
> Ray Grabs'
>
> Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Dave!
>
> Here is the direct link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BLU%20RAY%20GRABS/
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BLU%20RAY%20GRABS/>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > I tried an experiment last night and pointed my camera at the
screen
> > after pausing the image on the stills galleries.
> >
> > The results are predictably somewhat lacking but frankly I'm
surprised
> > it worked at all. At least those of us without Blu Rays can now
see
> > something.
> >
> > You can find the images in the files section in a folder
named 'Blu
> > Ray Grabs'
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

TGIF! Well we made it through the first full week of 2009 without the Apes taking over so to celebrate the next installment of THE ILLUSTRATED MONKEY PLANET is now available. Thanks again to Dave Ballard.

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Welcome to the group Steve. Happy to have you aboard. Please feel free to avail yourself of all the group's features and resources. And tell us more about yourself. Where are you from? What is your favorite POTA movie, TV series or comic?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <hdcub@...> wrote:
>
> Hi fellow ape fans! My name is Steve and I've been a huge POTA fan
> since I was a little kid(about 35 years ago!!). My fascination began
> when I recieved the ape figures and the Treehouse playset for Christmas
> back in '73, I think? I've never lost interest in the apes and have
> been collecting different kinds of POTA memorabilia/newer merch through
> the years. I was really excited to find this group and I look forward
> to getting to know all you guys and keeping up with the latest POTA
> news. Btw, my wife bought me a blu ray player, so I ordered the POTA
> blu ray collection. It'll be my third DVD collection of the apes and,
> hopefully, the best looking.
>

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:40 AM, ~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...> wrote:

Welcome Steve.   I am sure you will enjoy the group.   Joanne (just one of the guys) :)   --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Steve <hdcub@...> wrote: From: Steve <hdcub@...> Subject: [pota] New member intro. To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 9:18 AM Hi fellow ape fans! My name is Steve and I've been a huge POTA fan since I was a little kid(about 35 years ago!!). My fascination began when I recieved the ape figures and the Treehouse playset for Christmas back in '73, I think? I've never lost interest in the apes and have been collecting different kinds of POTA memorabilia/ newer merch through the years. I was really excited to find this group and I look forward to getting to know all you guys and keeping up with the latest POTA news. Btw, my wife bought me a blu ray player, so I ordered the POTA blu ray collection. It'll be my third DVD collection of the apes and, hopefully, the best looking.

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Steve <hdcub@...> wrote:

A little more about myself, as requested. :-)
I'm 42 y/o, married for 12 years and live in a small town about 30
miles south of Chicago. My favorite POTA movie has got to be the
first one in the series. I have a small confession to make to the
group. Because I didn't want the series to end, I've never allowed
myself to see "Battle for the POTA"!!!!! :-o I think I'll finally
watch it when I get my blu ray collection in the mail(next week). I
know....what kind of self respecting POTA fan would purposely avoid
the last movie in the series?! LOL...
My least favorite apes movie was the Tim Burton "re-imagining". Maybe
I'm just too set in my ways and old-fashioned, but I didn't see a
need to remake a classic.
I've been able to recapture all the vintage MEGO figures thanks to
Ebay, but the Treehouse Playset is always "just out of my reach"
financially when I find it on Ebay. I'm now wrestling with the
decision of whether or not to buy the Hot Toys figures. I really
don't see how I'm going to resist those beauties!!
One of my favorite POTA items, even though it's not
vintage/collectible, is the Caesar bust that houses the complete POTA
dvd collection. I've had him out of the box a few times, but I'm
afriad to leave him out for good. We have two very hungry dogs and I
don't trust them.
Another collection I've been working on is G.I. Joe Adventure Team
items. Remember the old fuzz faced figures? I love those things! I'm
also a HUGE vintage KISS collector and have nearly all of the
merchandise they churned out in the late 70's. I tend to live in the
past through the memories of my childhood toys. Although I'm into a
lot of different things, POTA will always be first on my list.

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
       Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Steve <hdcub@...> wrote:

A little more about myself, as requested. :-)
I'm 42 y/o, married for 12 years and live in a small town about 30
miles south of Chicago. My favorite POTA movie has got to be the
first one in the series. I have a small confession to make to the
group. Because I didn't want the series to end, I've never allowed
myself to see "Battle for the POTA"!!!!! :-o I think I'll finally
watch it when I get my blu ray collection in the mail(next week). I
know....what kind of self respecting POTA fan would purposely avoid
the last movie in the series?! LOL...
My least favorite apes movie was the Tim Burton "re-imagining". Maybe
I'm just too set in my ways and old-fashioned, but I didn't see a
need to remake a classic.
I've been able to recapture all the vintage MEGO figures thanks to
Ebay, but the Treehouse Playset is always "just out of my reach"
financially when I find it on Ebay. I'm now wrestling with the
decision of whether or not to buy the Hot Toys figures. I really
don't see how I'm going to resist those beauties!!
One of my favorite POTA items, even though it's not
vintage/collectible, is the Caesar bust that houses the complete POTA
dvd collection. I've had him out of the box a few times, but I'm
afriad to leave him out for good. We have two very hungry dogs and I
don't trust them.
Another collection I've been working on is G.I. Joe Adventure Team
items. Remember the old fuzz faced figures? I love those things! I'm
also a HUGE vintage KISS collector and have nearly all of the
merchandise they churned out in the late 70's. I tend to live in the
past through the memories of my childhood toys. Although I'm into a
lot of different things, POTA will always be first on my list.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Michael Bowes <michael_bowes40@...> wrote:

Hey Everyone

 

My name is Mike and im originally from NJ and now residing in Utah

been a big fan of POTA all my life

The movies used to give me nightmares when i watched them as a kid at night

but didnt when i watched them on the Afternoon specials  (remember them)

 

For xmas ordered on my walmart gift cards

both  the animated and POTA series... WOW some great stuff

 

I just obtained all the movies that i will put on DVD (FAV IS BATTLE)

 

I will also be starting up a BIG POTA project that i can use everyone

help when starting....

 

Thanks

Mike

> Hunter!!! Steve is a KISS FAN!!!
>
> ROCK ON MY BROTHER!
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Steve <hdcub@...
> <mailto:hdcub@...>> wrote:
>
> A little more about myself, as requested. :-)
> I'm 42 y/o, married for 12 years and live in a small town about 30
> miles south of Chicago. My favorite POTA movie has got to be the
> first one in the series. I have a small confession to make to the
> group. Because I didn't want the series to end, I've never allowed
> myself to see "Battle for the POTA"!!!!! :-o I think I'll finally
> watch it when I get my blu ray collection in the mail(next week). I
> know....what kind of self respecting POTA fan would purposely avoid
> the last movie in the series?! LOL...
> My least favorite apes movie was the Tim Burton "re-imagining". Maybe
> I'm just too set in my ways and old-fashioned, but I didn't see a
> need to remake a classic.
> I've been able to recapture all the vintage MEGO figures thanks to
> Ebay, but the Treehouse Playset is always "just out of my reach"
> financially when I find it on Ebay. I'm now wrestling with the
> decision of whether or not to buy the Hot Toys figures. I really
> don't see how I'm going to resist those beauties!!
> One of my favorite POTA items, even though it's not
> vintage/collectible, is the Caesar bust that houses the complete POTA
> dvd collection. I've had him out of the box a few times, but I'm
> afriad to leave him out for good. We have two very hungry dogs and I
> don't trust them.
> Another collection I've been working on is G.I. Joe Adventure Team
> items. Remember the old fuzz faced figures? I love those things! I'm
> also a HUGE vintage KISS collector and have nearly all of the
> merchandise they churned out in the late 70's. I tend to live in the
> past through the memories of my childhood toys. Although I'm into a
> lot of different things, POTA will always be first on my list.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.net <http://www.brokensea.net>
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://brokensea.com/conan/
>