>>This is interesting!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but I'm talking about an open air pocket (hole) on the
surface of the nose. Large pockets on the cheeks. I was just sayin'
that, even though I watch the series a lot, I never noticed as many
as I have lately. Battle has a few and I noticed those even when I
was a teenager watching it on a 5" screen.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:36 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: tv series again
>
>
>
> When the series was produced I think the largest size TV screen
available was about 30-40 inches. By blowing them up to today's big
screens in HD, there are probably a lot of errors that they never
thought anyone would spot.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm watching the series(I watch it a lot) and never noticed how
many air pockets show up in a lot of ape faces. But, then again, I'm
using my projector to watch it on the wall 10--12 ft wide.
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:53 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: tv series again

Greetings, everyone. Speaking of air holes, there is a very prominant
one in CONQUEST. If you watch the sequence closely where Caesar is
being tortured on the shock table, pay attention to his mouth. When
the camera is at his feet, looking up towards his face, you can see a
perfectly round air hole inside his muzzle. It is in the upper
appliance, in front of the front teeth (in other words, between the
front teet and the upper lip). I was really surprised the first time
I noticed this, as I felt they did such a good job on Roddy's makeup
for this film.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff" <skintricks@ ...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but I'm talking about an open air pocket (hole) on the
surface of the nose. Large pockets on the cheeks. I was just sayin'
that, even though I watch the series a lot, I never noticed as many
as I have lately. Battle has a few and I noticed those even when I
was a teenager watching it on a 5" screen.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:36 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: tv series again
>
>
>
> When the series was produced I think the largest size TV screen
available was about 30-40 inches. By blowing them up to today's big
screens in HD, there are probably a lot of errors that they never
thought anyone would spot.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff" <skintricks@ > wrote:
> >
> > I'm watching the series(I watch it a lot) and never noticed how
many air pockets show up in a lot of ape faces. But, then again, I'm
using my projector to watch it on the wall 10--12 ft wide.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but I'm talking about an open air pocket (hole) on the
surface of the nose. Large pockets on the cheeks. I was just sayin'
that, even though I watch the series a lot, I never noticed as many
as I have lately. Battle has a few and I noticed those even when I
was a teenager watching it on a 5" screen.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:36 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: tv series again
>
>
>
> When the series was produced I think the largest size TV screen
available was about 30-40 inches. By blowing them up to today's big
screens in HD, there are probably a lot of errors that they never
thought anyone would spot.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm watching the series(I watch it a lot) and never noticed how
many air pockets show up in a lot of ape faces. But, then again, I'm
using my projector to watch it on the wall 10--12 ft wide.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. Speaking of air holes, there is a very
prominant
> one in CONQUEST. If you watch the sequence closely where Caesar
is
> being tortured on the shock table, pay attention to his mouth.
When
> the camera is at his feet, looking up towards his face, you can
see a
> perfectly round air hole inside his muzzle. It is in the upper
> appliance, in front of the front teeth (in other words, between
the
> front teet and the upper lip). I was really surprised the first
time
> I noticed this, as I felt they did such a good job on Roddy's
makeup
> for this film.
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, but I'm talking about an open air pocket (hole) on the
> surface of the nose. Large pockets on the cheeks. I was just
sayin'
> that, even though I watch the series a lot, I never noticed as
many
> as I have lately. Battle has a few and I noticed those even when
I
> was a teenager watching it on a 5" screen.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:36 AM
> > Subject: [pota] Re: tv series again
> >
> >
> >
> > When the series was produced I think the largest size TV
screen
> available was about 30-40 inches. By blowing them up to today's
big
> screens in HD, there are probably a lot of errors that they never
> thought anyone would spot.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm watching the series(I watch it a lot) and never noticed
how
> many air pockets show up in a lot of ape faces. But, then again,
I'm
> using my projector to watch it on the wall 10--12 ft wide.
> > >
> >
>

--- On Mon, 2/2/09, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: P.O.T.A V's STAR WARS
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 10:10 AM
> One thing that Dr. Dolittle did was make merchandisers
> unwilling to sign
> on to a film property that was unproven. Most likely that
> was why most
> of the POTA merchandise did not happen until the TV series.
> By then POTA
> was a proven quantity. Same was true of Star Wars. There
> was little or
> no merchandising in 1977, the year the film came out. Most
> of the
> agreements were made after the film proved to be a big hit
> and the
> products didn't start to appear until almost a year
> later.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > You need to have your knowledge expanded.
> >
> > As far as the merchandizing on DOLITTLE... Let's
> just say it poisoned
> > the waters for years!
> >
> > If you've never read it, I HIGHLY recommend a book
> called "The
> Studio."
> > Get it!
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Studio-John-Gregory-Dunne/dp/0375700080/ref=sr_1_1\
> ?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233553553&sr=1-1
> >
> > -- Rory

>>James Franciscus was born on this day in 1934

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
> Jim was cool. RIP.
> Never knew Brent's first name was John.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>

Exactly. That's why POTA was a proven quantity with merchandisers in 1974.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "One thing that Dr. Dolittle did was make merchandisers unwilling to
> sign on to a film property that was unproven. Most likely that was why
> most of the POTA merchandise did not happen until the TV series. By
> then POTA was a proven quantity."
>
> I think it was the huge ratings the first three films got in their
> network showing in the fall of 1973. I recently found a list of the
> highest rated theatrical films shown that season (AIRPORT was #1 with
> PLANET #2) and even ESCAPE had a 50% share of the entire national
> audience the night it was shown.
>
> -- Rory
>

I've seen parts of it on cable over the years but it has never really captured my interest.

I did see a documentary on the making of the film once. Most of it was Anthony Newly telling stories of what a jerk Rex Harrison was to everyone else on the set.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>>
> You've never seen it?!!!! You should do yourself a favor and see it.
> It's really not that bad, has great cinematography and set design, and
> it looks and sounds great on DVD. The ghost of Arthur Jacobs would be
> happy if you watched it, James.
>
> "If I could talk slang to orangutangs... Imagine chanting to a chimp in
> chimpanzee?"
>
> -- Rory
>

I blame part of the problems in the sequels on FOX. They kept cutting the budgets which had to make it difficult to maintain the standard of quality in the films.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mike M" <mmuse@...> wrote:
>
> This is a perfect example of the sloppiness of the cinematography of
> the sequels. Leon Shamroy and Franklin Schaffner made a conscious
> effort to avoid this kind of shot, or a shot where your looking
> right down the mouth of the apes, blackened teeth and all. On
> everything after PLANET, it seems that there was less and less
> thought put in to camera angles, just shoot it as if it were normal
> human faces and move on. Once again showing that PLANET is the
> classic, and everything else is just a sequel.
>
> Mike
>
>

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:

Hello,   Any idea where to get a pattern for the white flight suit from POTA? I have not been able to find a pattern anywhere. I know that the ASNA uniform is 2 pieces (Jacket & Pants) but I cannot even find a one piece suit in white. I would be glad to make a one piece flightsuit but I cannot find a pattern.....can anyone help?   Chris Sutton 314-487-8273

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Any idea where to get a pattern for the white flight suit from
POTA? I have not been able to find a pattern anywhere. I know that the
ASNA uniform is 2 pieces (Jacket & Pants) but I cannot even find a one
piece suit in white. I would be glad to make a one piece flightsuit but
I cannot find a pattern.....can anyone help?
>
> Chris Sutton
> 314-487-8273
>

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...> wrote:

What scale are you talking about for this astronaut suit?
mark

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>   Any idea where to get a pattern for the white flight suit from
POTA? I have not been able to find a pattern anywhere. I know that the
ASNA uniform is 2 pieces (Jacket & Pants) but I cannot even find a one
piece suit in white. I would be glad to make a one piece flightsuit but
I cannot find a pattern.....can anyone help?
>  
> Chris Sutton
> 314-487-8273
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> It was originally over five. As they started to get the
> hang of it they were able to hone it down to three
> and a half. Still a long time to sit still. Not to
> mention about an hour to remove it all at the
> end of the day. Making even a short day
> that much longer. It was a tough gig.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/3/2009 5:03:52 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> markhaydon3@... writes:
>
> ( and
> four hours in make-up before the camera even starts to roll )
>
> **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?
redir=http://ad.doubleclick
> net/clk;211531132;33070124;e)
>

--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:

> From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Birthday Reminder
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 9:59 PM
> Jim was cool. RIP.
> Never knew Brent's first name was John.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>

> From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Birthday Reminder
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:08 PM
> Would've been 75 this year. That's one worth
> commemorating.
>
> Couple of links for those who may be interested:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/franciscus1934/
>
> http://www.tv.com/james-franciscus/person/70345/biography.html"
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "pota@yahoogroups.com"
> <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >>James Franciscus was born on this day in 1934
> Saturday January 31, 2009
> All Day
> (This event repeats every year.)
>
> Notes:
> Brent in Beneath. <<
>

--- On Thu, 2/5/09, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

> From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Birthday Reminder
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 6:21 AM
> Wow! I didn't know that Jim was married to Jane Fonda!
> Thanks for the
> info!
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: Tim \"apefan\
>
> Date: 2/4/2009 7:07:27 PM
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Birthday Reminder
>
>
>
> He'll always be cool to me...after I found out he was
> Jane Fonda's first....
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
>
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Birthday Reminder
>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 9:59 PM
>
> > Jim was cool. RIP.
>
> > Never knew Brent's first name was John.
>
> >
>
> > Al
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >

>
> Sorry if this is old news, but I just stumbled upon it today. Have

> this before?
>
>

>
> This is the article from 2001:
>

>
> Jessica.
>

For those who may be interested in seeing David Watson without Ape make-up, he'll be on tonight's episode of 'The Time Tunnel' (playing Rudyard Kipling) on the American Life Network at 9PM EST.

This week's installment of THE ILLUSTRATED MONKEY PLANET is now available. Thanks again to Dave Ballard.

To access click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm

Have a great weekend everyone!

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• The Group Website  - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
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Would love to see some pics when you have everything assembled.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone. I am patiently waiting for all of my orders to come in,
> and am busy doing mental gymnastics, trying to figure out how to
> successfully augment to the hairpieces I ordered for Zira's costume. At
> least I can start augmenting to the hair pieces, which may be a lot of work
> but well worth it in the end. My plan for this weekend is to complete the
> hair augmentation to the hairpieces I already have in-house, and to start
> assembling all of the materials and bits to the costume in one general area
> of my bedroom.
>
>
> Jessica.
>

While I agree that Greene takes things a step too far sometimes, he is correct that there was social commentary and allegory in the film. Mort Abrams stated in the Behind documentary that when they were making Planet the filmmakers knew they were making a political film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> Oy, I'm gonna throw up.
> Someone just dug too deep with the proverbial shovel to find meaning where there just isn't any.
> - Scott B.
>
> --- On Thu, 2/5/09, jessica rotich jessicarotich@... wrote:
>
> From: jessica rotich jessicarotich@...
> Subject: [pota] For your viewing pleasure...Eric Greene as Caesar!
> To: "POTA" pota@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 5:11 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry if this is old news, but I just stumbled upon it today.  Have you seen this before?
>
> http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/ape08100 1.jpg
>
> This is the article from 2001:
> http://www.jewishjo urnal.com/ up_front/ article/apes_ as_allegory_ 20010810/
>
> Jessica.
>

Sadly another POTA alum has passed away today, James Whitmore who played the President of the Assembly.

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-james-whitmore7-2009feb07,0,1015401.story

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:48 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Would love to see some pics when you have everything assembled.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone. I am patiently waiting for all of my orders to come in,
> and am busy doing mental gymnastics, trying to figure out how to
> successfully augment to the hairpieces I ordered for Zira's costume. At
> least I can start augmenting to the hair pieces, which may be a lot of work
> but well worth it in the end. My plan for this weekend is to complete the
> hair augmentation to the hairpieces I already have in-house, and to start
> assembling all of the materials and bits to the costume in one general area
> of my bedroom.
>
>
> Jessica.
>

>
> What else can people tell me about these 4 pieces of original art

>
>
> Sonny Trinidad, PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY PAGE,

>
>
> Marvel PLANET OF THE APES Original ART Unpub Story 1978 <<<<<
>
>
> Herb Trimpe (?), PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY

>
>
> Marvel PLANET OF THE APES Original ART Unpub Story 1978 <<<<<
>
>
> Herb Trimpe (?), PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY

>
>
>
> Marvel PLANET OF THE APES Original ART Unpub Story 1978 <<<<<
>
>
> Herb Trimpe (?), PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY

>

Try Hunter's site: https://pota.goatley.com/marvel_uk.html" There are scans of all the UK Marvel comics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rameriez3" <rameriez3@...> wrote:
>
> i found the scans of the parts with the planet of the apes in it,but i
> need some help,does anybody have any scans of the full magazine itself
> or at least the dracula lives portion of the book,if ya do and can
> help me,it would be most appreciated or even if ya can point me in the
> right direction to where i can find it,thanks
>

Thanks for passing this along Jeff!

Interesting. They posted a pic of the female chimp in the breeding center as Lisa.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> Just thought you'd like to see (especially Jessica) It's a website with pics of women in make up. He has one page dedicated to POTA. This page hasn't updated the pics in quite a while, but the commentary has.
>
> http://www.themakeupgallery.org.uk/fantasy/beast/ape/pota/index.htm
>

Interesting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Trinidad-Marvel-PLANET-OF-APES-Unpub-Story-ART-1978_W0QQitemZ290292492900QQihZ019QQcategoryZ972QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> What else can people tell me about these 4 pieces of original art from ebay?
>
>
> Sonny Trinidad, PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY PAGE, 1978. This is the original final art by Sonny Trinidad in india ink and gray watercolor on heavyweight paper for page 15 of an unpublished story for Marvel comic magazine Planet of the Apes. The final issue in the series was #29, dated February 1977. Artist Sonny Trinidad pencilled and inked comic book and magazine stories for Marvel in the 1970s, including Marvel Preview, Son of Satan, Vampire Tales, Dracula Lives, Haunt of Horror, Savage Sword of Conan, and others. Marvel copyright stamp dated 1978 appears on the back. 15 1/2" x 10 1/2" art image on 17 1/4" x 11 1/4" sheet. In excellent condition with only slight discoloration:
>
>

This looks like it is from Battle, not from an original story.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Marvel-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-Original-ART-Unpub-Story-1978_W0QQitemZ220352394036QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14009QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> What else can people tell me about these 4 pieces of original art from ebay?
>
>
>
> Marvel PLANET OF THE APES Original ART Unpub Story 1978 <<<<<
>
>
> Herb Trimpe (?), PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY PAGE, 1978. This is the original final art, likely by Herb Trimpe, in india ink and gray watercolor on heavyweight paper for page 4 of an unpublished story titled War Machine for Marvel comic magazine Planet of the Apes. The final issue in the series was #29, dated February 1977. Artist Herb Trimpe pencilled and/or inked the stories for the last four issues, and he likely drew this original as well. Marvel copyright stamp dated 1978 appears on the back. 15 1/2" x 10 1/2" art image on 16" x 11 1/4" sheet. In excellent condition with only slight discoloration: VERY FINE.
>
>

This looks like it is from Battle too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Marvel-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-Original-ART-Unpub-Story-1978_W0QQitemZ220352396082QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14009QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> What else can people tell me about these 4 pieces of original art from ebay?
>
>
> Marvel PLANET OF THE APES Original ART Unpub Story 1978 <<<<<
>
>
> Herb Trimpe (?), PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY PAGE, 1978. This is the original final art, likely by Herb Trimpe, in india ink and gray watercolor on heavyweight paper for page 3 of an unpublished story titled War Machine for Marvel comic magazine Planet of the Apes. The final issue in the series was #29, dated February 1977. Artist Herb Trimpe pencilled and/or inked the stories for the last four issues, and he likely drew this original as well. Marvel copyright stamp dated 1978 appears on the back. 15 1/2" x 10 1/2" art image on 16" x 11 1/4" sheet. In excellent condition with only slight discoloration: VERY FINE.
>
>
>

This is the last one and it looks like it is from Battle too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Marvel-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-Original-ART-Unpub-Story-1978_W0QQitemZ290292498794QQihZ019QQcategoryZ14009QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> What else can people tell me about these 4 pieces of original art from ebay?
>
>
> Marvel PLANET OF THE APES Original ART Unpub Story 1978 <<<<<
>
>
> Herb Trimpe (?), PLANET OF THE APES, ORIGINAL ART FOR A STORY PAGE, 1978. This is the original final art, likely by Herb Trimpe, in india ink and gray watercolor on heavyweight paper for page 8 of an unpublished story titled War Machine for Marvel comic magazine Planet of the Apes. The final issue in the series was #29, dated February 1977. Artist Herb Trimpe pencilled and/or inked the stories for the last four issues, and he likely drew this original as well. Marvel copyright stamp dated 1978 appears on the back. 15 1/2" x 10 1/2" art image on 16" x 11 1/4" sheet. In excellent condition with only slight discoloration: VERY FINE.
>

Hope you told Kass. She lives in Tennessee.

Of course she doesn't go any where without the promise of James Naughton being there with his shirt off. ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.belcourt.org/events?id=61138
>
> PLANET OF THE APES (1968) Sat.-Mon., Feb. 7-9
> SHOWTIMES:
> Sat-Sun, 2/7-8 @ Noon
> Monday, 2/9 @ 7:00
> In this, the first in the APES saga, Heston's stone-chiseled features and bare chest bring us the movie that was to create an empire. After an accident in space, astronaut George Taylor (Heston) finds that he has crash-landed on a strange planet where humans are subservient to the Ape-Lords of the world. Finding himself less than welcomed, Taylor endures trials and tortures from the highly intelligent simians, forcing him to utter the first words ever spoken by a human to the apes, "Keep your hands off me you damn dirty apes!" Taylor desperately tries to regain his freedom and get off of the God-forsaken planet, only to discover that this foreign land may not be as distant as he suspected. Dir. Franklin J. Schaffer, 1959, USA, 112 min. New 35mm print courtesy of Criterion Pictures.
>

Very cool Jessica!

I see you do full size as well as the action figures.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Here are photos of my wig before and after styling. I had to give it a
> little haircut. It is sitting on a latex mask that I purchased from Matt
> Sotis. The latex mask helps keep the wig from falling off the mannequin
> head because I don't have any toupee tape at the moment, and helps me
> imagine how Zira will look. She is getting there!!
>
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira001-1.jpg
>
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira002-2.jpg
>
> Jessica.
>
> Still working on hairing up the additional hair pieces I bought. I want to
> complete those this weekend so that I could have the next two weeks adding
> detail/paint to my Zira mask.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:48 AM, James JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> > *Would love to see some pics when you have everything assembled. *
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich jessicarotich@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings everyone. I am patiently waiting for all of my orders to come
> > in,
> > > and am busy doing mental gymnastics, trying to figure out how to
> > > successfully augment to the hairpieces I ordered for Zira's costume. At
> > > least I can start augmenting to the hair pieces, which may be a lot of
> > work
> > > but well worth it in the end. My plan for this weekend is to complete the
> > > hair augmentation to the hairpieces I already have in-house, and to start
> > > assembling all of the materials and bits to the costume in one general
> > area
> > > of my bedroom.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jessica.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

Dear Jessica,

 

These look fantastic. Does Mathew do Cornelius masks raw like yours?

 

John

From: jessica rotich

Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:44 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!

Here are photos of my wig before and after styling.  I had to give it a little haircut.  It is sitting on a latex mask that I purchased from Matt Sotis.  The latex mask helps keep the wig from falling off the mannequin head because I don't have any toupee tape at the moment, and helps me imagine how Zira will look.  She is getting there!!

 

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira001-1.jpg

 

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira002-2.jpg

 

Jessica.

 

Still working on hairing up the additional hair pieces I bought.  I want to complete those this weekend so that I could have the next two weeks adding detail/paint to my Zira mask.

 

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:48 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Would love to see some pics when you have everything assembled.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone. I am patiently waiting for all of my orders to come in,
> and am busy doing mental gymnastics, trying to figure out how to
> successfully augment to the hairpieces I ordered for Zira's costume. At
> least I can start augmenting to the hair pieces, which may be a lot of work
> but well worth it in the end. My plan for this weekend is to complete the
> hair augmentation to the hairpieces I already have in-house, and to start
> assembling all of the materials and bits to the costume in one general area
> of my bedroom.
>
>
> Jessica.
>

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:53 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Thanks for passing this along Jeff!

Interesting. They posted a pic of the female chimp in the breeding center as Lisa.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> Just thought you'd like to see (especially Jessica) It's a website with pics of women in make up. He has one page dedicated to POTA. This page hasn't updated the pics in quite a while, but the commentary has.
>
> http://www.themakeupgallery.org.uk/fantasy/beast/ape/pota/index.htm
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> After all these years, and all behind the scenes photos, and
everything looked at under scrutiny...why don't we EVER get to see
bloopers and/or outtakes? I've seen bloopers from 1930s and 40s
movies, so I know they were doing that back then. Why no apes? No TV
bloopers. No sequels? WHY???????
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Very cool to see. My four year old, the other ape fan in my
household,
> asked if Ari was Michael Jackson. (He is also a Michael Jackson
fan).
>
> Jessica.
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:53 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> > *Thanks for passing this along Jeff!*
> >
> > *Interesting. They posted a pic of the female chimp in the
breeding center
> > as Lisa. *
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just thought you'd like to see (especially Jessica) It's a
website with
> > pics of women in make up. He has one page dedicated to POTA. This
page
> > hasn't updated the pics in quite a while, but the commentary has.
> > >
> > >
http://www.themakeupgallery.org.uk/fantasy/beast/ape/pota/index.htm
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

> Try Hunter's site: https://pota.goatley.com/marvel_uk.html"
> <https://pota.goatley.com/marvel_uk.html"> There are scans of all the UK
> Marvel comics.

>
> I went to the Belcourt today to see "Planet of the Apes." There were
> fewer than 20 people in attendance.
>
> The print was a "new" 35mm print, but it wasn't brand-new. It was
> clearly not an old print, but it had specks and scratches throughout
> (most noticeably, of course, at reel changes). I loved seeing it on
> the big screen, but the Blu-ray transfer on a 96" projection TV screen
> was actually a much better viewing experience.
>
> Hunter
>

>
> I went to the Belcourt today to see "Planet of the Apes." There were
> fewer than 20 people in attendance.
>
> The print was a "new" 35mm print, but it wasn't brand-new. It was
> clearly not an old print, but it had specks and scratches throughout
> (most noticeably, of course, at reel changes). I loved seeing it on
> the big screen, but the Blu-ray transfer on a 96" projection TV screen
> was actually a much better viewing experience.
>
> Hunter
>

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:41 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Yes, John.  Matt does do Cornelius masks in latex, too.  If you google "finkbuilt Cornelius," you will see my friend Steve's Cornelius mask made by Matt.

 

James, I do full scale as well (usually just for me).  So far I have dressed up as Cleopatra, Nefertiti, and a Balinese dancer.  I love to get dressed up!

 

Jessica.

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

Dear Jessica,

 

These look fantastic. Does Mathew do Cornelius masks raw like yours?

 

John

From: jessica rotich

Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:44 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!

Here are photos of my wig before and after styling.  I had to give it a little haircut.  It is sitting on a latex mask that I purchased from Matt Sotis.  The latex mask helps keep the wig from falling off the mannequin head because I don't have any toupee tape at the moment, and helps me imagine how Zira will look.  She is getting there!!

 

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira001-1.jpg

 

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira002-2.jpg

 

Jessica.

 

Still working on hairing up the additional hair pieces I bought.  I want to complete those this weekend so that I could have the next two weeks adding detail/paint to my Zira mask.

 

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:48 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Would love to see some pics when you have everything assembled.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone. I am patiently waiting for all of my orders to come in,
> and am busy doing mental gymnastics, trying to figure out how to
> successfully augment to the hairpieces I ordered for Zira's costume. At
> least I can start augmenting to the hair pieces, which may be a lot of work
> but well worth it in the end. My plan for this weekend is to complete the
> hair augmentation to the hairpieces I already have in-house, and to start
> assembling all of the materials and bits to the costume in one general area
> of my bedroom.
>
>
> Jessica.
>

It's POTA's 41st Anniversary today. To celebrate a special LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER has been prepared. Thanks to everyone who contributed.

Use this link to view the LESSON: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm.

In addition a PDF of the second issue of Marvel's Planet of the Apes Magazine is now available on the Downloads page of the Group Website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm

The Fox Movie Channel will be celebrating the Anniversary all this week by dedicating 4 hours of programming to POTA each day. Starting Monday at 4PM FMC will air one of the TV movies followed by one of the Feature films at 6PM EST. Details are available on the Group's Calendar: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal

Happy Anniversary everyone!

Very cool. Would love to see some pics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>
> James, I do full scale as well (usually just for me). So far I have dressed
> up as Cleopatra, Nefertiti, and a Balinese dancer. I love to get dressed
> up!
>
> Jessica.
>

Now that you mention it I've never seen any bloopers from the POTA films either. There is some raw footage from Planet on the special edition "Behind" DVD but no bloopers. I'm sure FOX must have them down in the salt mine. They just have to send someone down there to find the stuff.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> After all these years, and all behind the scenes photos, and everything looked at under scrutiny...why don't we EVER get to see bloopers and/or outtakes? I've seen bloopers from 1930s and 40s movies, so I know they were doing that back then. Why no apes? No TV bloopers. No sequels? WHY???????
>

You should get the DVD of the Carol Burnett show guest starring Roddy and the Jackson Five.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Very cool to see. My four year old, the other ape fan in my household,
> asked if Ari was Michael Jackson. (He is also a Michael Jackson fan).
>
> Jessica.
>

Don't forget the Battle lobby cards. In one Aldo is not wearing his glove.

And in this one Roddy is holding a cigarette.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> There are plenty of "behind-the-scenes" photos, but very few that I
> would consider "blooper" photos. I have a lobby card from BENEATH in
> which one of the caged humans in the background is wearing a bathrobe
> in the cage; a CONQUEST photo in which a gorilla is wearing eyeglasses;
> and another BENEATH photo in which a gorilla is wearing a hair ribbon.
> I would consider the first two as "bloopers", and the third as probably
> a "behind-the-scenes" shot.
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" skintricks@ wrote:
> >
> > After all these years, and all behind the scenes photos, and
> everything looked at under scrutiny...why don't we EVER get to see
> bloopers and/or outtakes? I've seen bloopers from 1930s and 40s
> movies, so I know they were doing that back then. Why no apes? No TV
> bloopers. No sequels? WHY???????
> >
>

So are you going to go to the Monday night showing.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> http://www.belcourt.org/events?id=61138
> PLANET OF THE APES (1968)                      Sat.-Mon., Feb. 7-9
> SHOWTIMES:
> Sat-Sun, 2/7-8 @ Noon
> Monday, 2/9 @ 7:00
>
> I was going to go to it until I found out it was only showing at 12
> noon. That's not convenient.
>
> Still, hopefully someone goes and let's us know how the print quality
> was. Personally, if project the Blu-ray.
>
> -- Rory
>

Thanks Terry. You are and always have been a great POTA fan.

I know that there have been some problems in the past but that you have always made a good faith effort to track down those who are owed issues.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> I will explain the fanzine situation for those who havent heard it before.
> Ape Chronicles was printed bi-montly from 1991-1999
>
> The fan club started being promoted on the internet in 1998 and my personal touring schedule as a performer
> made the production of new issues vary sporadic and very few issues were put simply put because I didnt have time
>
> However some people paid for memberships of 3 to 6 issues between 1999-2004 and yes was a gap of 5 years
> in between issues. I have always kept good records of all payments made directly to the website for new issues.
> I know who paid for what issues and I know who are still owed issues.
> Of course I could not mail new issues until they were actually released and this meant a real long wait for a few people unfortunately
>
> Ironically I never planned to stop making new issues - but they just never happened.
> Looking back it seems that Ape Chronicles had its original regular printing schedule of issues #1-36 from 1991-1999
> Anybody who happened to pay after issue #36 did not receive anything in the mail for there were no new issues for years
>
> Here is the release date of all issues in the past 10 years!
> I always have the intention of keeping it going more regularly but as I really don't make any money off it its easy to get sidetracked
> with other personal and business reasons
>
> #36 Feb 1999
> #37-39 2004
> #40-44 2008
> #45-47 (tentatively planned for 2009)
>
> Everyone on the yahoogroups knows that in the past few years I have posted lists of people that paid for issues from 1999-2004 that I still owe issues to - but unfortunately as years went by I do not have any current email or mailing address info for them.
>
> The good news is I think that the latest issues have been much better quality and quantity material than the earlier issues
> For those who were original members from 1991-1999 they appreciated the dedication to POTA when there was nothing else there before the internet came along. Simian Scrolls has done an amazing job of keeping the POTA fanzine idea going when Ape Chronicles stopped publishing regularly.
>
> I am always happy to discuss this issue with anyone
> For those who have known me promote POTA for the last 19 years I do everything I can to keep interest in our favorite series.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> I went to the Belcourt today to see "Planet of the Apes." There were
> fewer than 20 people in attendance.
>
> The print was a "new" 35mm print, but it wasn't brand-new. It was
> clearly not an old print, but it had specks and scratches throughout
> (most noticeably, of course, at reel changes). I loved seeing it on
> the big screen, but the Blu-ray transfer on a 96" projection TV screen
> was actually a much better viewing experience.
>
> Hunter
>

No. What are you refering to?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> There's a blooper right in CONQUEST, a mistake unlike anything else in
> any of the other movies. Does anyone else know it?
>
> -- Rory
>
> -
>

Great work Jessica. Would love to see a pic of the front.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I worked all day to hand tie two strands of hair at a time for Zira's
> hairline. It was actually a human hair lace beard, but there was no way it
> could have been combed and blended into the main wig without the
> augmentation of the additional hair. Thanks very much to Tom Trubalcava's
> explanations, I was able to forge ahead.
>
> Here are some photos.
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira008-1.jpg
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira007-1.jpg
>
> The beard around her bottom jawline is just temporary. It will still need
> to be cut and trimmed.
>
> Jessica
>

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 5:53 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Great work Jessica. Would love to see a pic of the front.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>

> I worked all day to hand tie two strands of hair at a time for Zira's
> hairline. It was actually a human hair lace beard, but there was no way it
> could have been combed and blended into the main wig without the
> augmentation of the additional hair. Thanks very much to Tom Trubalcava's
> explanations, I was able to forge ahead.
>
> Here are some photos.
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira008-1.jpg
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira007-1.jpg
>
> The beard around her bottom jawline is just temporary. It will still need
> to be cut and trimmed.
>
> Jessica
>

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:51 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

James, here is a front shot.  Kinda.

 

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira.jpg

 

Jessica.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 5:53 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Great work Jessica. Would love to see a pic of the front.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>

> I worked all day to hand tie two strands of hair at a time for Zira's
> hairline. It was actually a human hair lace beard, but there was no way it
> could have been combed and blended into the main wig without the
> augmentation of the additional hair. Thanks very much to Tom Trubalcava's
> explanations, I was able to forge ahead.
>
> Here are some photos.
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira008-1.jpg
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira007-1.jpg
>
> The beard around her bottom jawline is just temporary. It will still need
> to be cut and trimmed.
>
> Jessica
>

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:54 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

"Great work Jessica. Would love to see a pic of the front."

I wonder if Jessica will get into gluing the individual hairs along the
edges of the face, or use makeup shading to disguise the "rubber."?

It's "alot" of work, I know, I did it to myself over twenty-five years
ago. Damn, how time flies!

-- Rory

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:54 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:








"Great work Jessica. Would love to see a pic of the front."

I wonder if Jessica will get into gluing the individual hairs along the
edges of the face, or use makeup shading to disguise the "rubber."?


It's "alot" of work, I know, I did it to myself over twenty-five years
ago. Damn, how time flies!

-- Rory