Just when you thought it safe to save your money.....

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From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Photo Posters



Now I see what you mean! Holy COW! We hit the mother load! :o)

http://www.moviestore.com/Photos/Planet_of_the_Apes__T102729_2.html"

Thanks!
Al

while we are at it try cinemasterpieces.com and filmposters.com and just follow the alphabet you see what the posters and such are selling for. i dealt with them and out of curiosity i said i was selling. these places and all places give you about one third to one half of the selling price..take care alex... john m... pota68@

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Now I see what you mean! Holy COW! We hit the mother load! :o)
>
> http://www.moviestore.com/Photos/Planet_of_the_Apes__T102729_2.html"
>
> Thanks!
> Al
>
>
>
>

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM, johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> wrote:

while we are at it try cinemasterpieces.com and filmposters.com and just follow the alphabet you see what the posters and such are selling for. i dealt with them and out of curiosity i said i was selling. these places and all places give you about one third to one half of the selling price..take care alex... john m... pota68@

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>

> Now I see what you mean! Holy COW! We hit the mother load! :o)
>
> http://www.moviestore.com/Photos/Planet_of_the_Apes__T102729_2.html"
>
> Thanks!
> Al
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Jess, with the way you can sculpt and sew

and everything else Brian should be working

for you!  He could certainly use you in quality

control, especially in the Zira department.  ; )

 

 

In a message dated 10/18/2009 12:47:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

It sucks to be poor.

 

Jess.

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its just me , if i sound argumentative im sorry,we think we know it all at times. but i just dont understand why their are so many diff. germanic cards.[germany, swiss, brussels, french,austria]. each of these countries[and i have almost all mayby?]have so many. the english and americas are 8 cards each while the above are app. 11-30+lobby cards for each country . some of the shots are poor and they come from the 35mm and 1 1/4 slides that were floating around in the 70s that alex and i were beaming about in the previous posts. those movie stores are making alot of money from those. i remember so vividly holding about five dozen slides at jerry ohlingers batcave at 4th st and mulberry in the viilage manhattan. when each ape movie came out i ran to that store and movie star news to get my b&w and color stills and posters. by the way their were alot of color slides of conquests original prolouge with the ape running and getting shot. the ape falls onto the ground and into the pose of christ on the cross with alot of blood .ill stop ranting, take care... john m ofcourse

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> > John...
> I really am not sure what you are talking about. I certainly wasn't arguing with anyone...I was just saying that the German cards and the French cards used the same photo...that's all......I was not disagreeing with you or denying that your card was German. No arguments from me at all.....!
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> Tim
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Here is the direct link: http://humor.beecy.net/funny-pictures/google-maps-ny-to-london/google-maps-ny-to-london-directions.png

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I can't see the google map but I'm sure it's funny......
>
> probably similar to the response that the Professor and Skipper on Gilligan's Island gave to Mary Ann in the Dracula dream sequence when she asked how did you get here all the way from England......"quite simply really, take one step and come up for air, take another step, come up for air......."
>
>

Who's hand in in the glove?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> (With my custom 1:1 scale Dr. Zaius gloves, that is!!)
>
> Here it is in action, crumpling a paper airplane...
>
> http://img203.imageshack.us/i/dsc01911f.jpg/
>
> Jess.
>

Wow you have a good memory. All I remember about the first time I saw Planet was that it was sometime in 1968 and on a double bill with One Million B.C. 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Wow, April 7th, 1968! That's the Sunday I first saw PLANET on!
>
> -- Rory
>

That's great news. Glad that everything was straitened out. Would hate to think that Hot Toys was ripping people off.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Great and awesome fantastic news, guys (and girls)!! I just received in my
> paws the replacement vest. It's taken since early September for them to fix
> this. I guess it was a misunderstanding on their part. They sent me the
> regular reply e-mail, "sorry we can't replace the item for you since your
> receipt is over 30 days old" when I asked them to repair the vest. They did
> not realize that my receipt was for a prepurchase I had made in December
> 2008 and the Captain was not delivered until the end of July 2009. Well,
> hearing that e-mail reply from Hot Toys just made me livid. I'm so glad
> that they can fix it. You always hear about great customer service from Hot
> Toys, and I was getting the short end of the stick and just not a happy
> chimp until it got fixed.
>
> Jess.
>
>

i got to admit, im almost 50 and for years i thought id be all alone in the ape universe. your all very passionate and know your sh###. i went through the site alittle deeper the dvd covers are great, the way i would have done them and the multitude of photos and crafting etc. its great to see.im not computer savy im a musician and have a degree in cinematography from ny tech in 82. i like the technical aspect from a 70s point of view of films ,and thus never really stayed up with technology except for audio advances[ if you can call most of them that].anyway keep it going cause i cant stand star wars. i feel better now...ha..ha.. john m pota68@

Great report Tim. Thanks!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Filing a report of the POTA screening I saw yesterday on the big screen in Durham, NC! Excellent print and decent sound! Only about 30 people in attendance on a dreary afternoon....the 2nd of three showings over the weekend. there would have been one more but poor Rory had car troubles and couldn't make it! It was part of an "Escapism Film Festival". A very quiet crowd....only laughs came at Chuck's "serious" monologues....("I feel...lonely...") and the hear no evil, see no evil bit.
>
> as always when I see it on the screen i notice a few things I've never noticed before......one is behind Taylor at the beginning when he is recording his log, there is what looks like a reel to reel tap spinning....wonder if that is supposed to be recording him or was it just put in to look "technical"

Probably put into look technical. I always rationalized the tape reel as the automation program that ran the ship while the astronauts were in hibernation.

>
> and I know we have discussed this before but I really think they may have put a gorilla mask on the female at the funeral. she's wearing green yet with a plum tunic but she really looked like a gorilla to me....
>

Not sure about that. The nose looks too small. But I could be mistaken.

> and one continuity problem.....when Taylor is brought into the hearing, he should be soaked from the water hose but he is dry.....

Maybe not. The human or animal compound was supposed to be across the causeway from Ape City (at least in the original script) so its possible that Taylor had time to dry out.

>
> am including pics of what I noticed and a collage of the ticket stub, brochure and "marquee"
>
> Tim

Thanks again Tim!
>

Thanks Alex,

I've added that link to the Group's Links section.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Now I see what you mean! Holy COW! We hit the mother load! :o)
>
> http://www.moviestore.com/Photos/Planet_of_the_Apes__T102729_2.htmlbr>>
> Thanks!
> Al
>

Balloon Boy Does Again!

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Thanks Al. I'll update it to that link instead.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
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> Here's a better link: http://www.moviestore.com/index.htmlgo=search&str=planet+of+the+apes&cat=&x=0&y=0
>
> It offers all they have by POTA category.
>
> Al
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Who's hand in in the glove?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> (With my custom 1:1 scale Dr. Zaius gloves, that is!!)
>
> Here it is in action, crumpling a paper airplane...
>
> http://img203.imageshack.us/i/dsc01911f.jpg/
>
> Jess.
>

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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...> wrote:

SO how did you do the glyph – or shall we save that for another article? J

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From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 6:12 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: After one year, I'm done!!

Mine, of course! I had to take apart the gloves and resew the fingers so that the gloves would fit me. They came XL, but the color was perfect. I bought two pairs, one was the sacrificial hieroglyph gloves.

Jess.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Who's hand in in the glove?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> (With my custom 1:1 scale Dr. Zaius gloves, that is!!)
>
> Here it is in action, crumpling a paper airplane...
>
> http://img203.imageshack.us/i/dsc01911f.jpg/
>
> Jess.

.

"Wow, you have a good memory. All I remember about the first time I saw
Planet was that it was sometime in 1968 and on a double bill with One
Million B.C."

Well, if you can remember what day of the week you saw it on, and if
you saw it pretty close to when it opened -- AND, if you can remember
what theatre it was -- all you need to do is get to a library that has
the paper -- in your case, The New York Times or some Brooklyn thing (I
don't know) -- and just find when the movie was playing there. If it
was on a double bill with "One Million Years, B.C." it shouldn't be too
hard. There was a time when I wasn't sure the exact date, but I did
this and figured it out (around 1978 at a library in Levittown, NY).

Now, I remember that I saw PLANET the 2nd time on June 29th, 1968
because I remember that it was a Saturday and that my father was
watching ABC's Wide, Wide World of Sports before he took me to it. I
remembered what was on the show, looked up the TV listing in the paper
from the time, and that confirmed it. I also discovered that a number
of theatres and drive-in at that time (the last week in June, 1968) on
Long Island had double-features of PLANET and ONE MILLION. This may
have also been true of Brooklyn.

-- Wow

-----Original Message-----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 18, 2009 12:21 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: planet article









Wow you have a good memory. All I remember about the first time I saw
Planet was that it was sometime in 1968 and on a double bill with One
Million B.C.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Wow, April 7th, 1968! That's the Sunday I first saw PLANET on!
>
> -- Rory
>

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The viewmaster pics are available on Kass' site: https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/vm.html" Are you looking for larger prints than those?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:
>
> Is there any way to get a large print from the old TV Apes series view master?  there has to be some way, those are high quality frames.
>  
> Thanks,
> Chris Sutton
>

That's really great. Ashton makes a cute gorilla.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the status of Ashton's gorilla pullover. I did the hairing up on a
> pullover spandex hood, and attached Apemania's kid-sized gorilla foam latex
> appliance with liquid latex. I also painted it up and had to add browns so
> that it would photograph better. I have the neck area to do still. Almost
> done, but not quite..
>
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>
> Jess.
>

His hear should be more square and the nose not so big. Hope that helps.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@...> wrote:
>
> this still needs refining guys but some input would help.
>

Well I know it was at the Walker Theater in Brooklyn. June 1968 sounds like the right time of year and I seem to think it was a Friday night. That's about it.

One thing I do remember which is a bit of a non-sequitar was that it was supposed to be the last attraction at the Walker before the theater closed (it had not been doing so for several years) so for the last week the Walker lowered ticket prices to $1 for adults and $0.50 for children. But because they did so well with the lower ticket prices the theater stayed open and kept the lower prices until the theater was refurbished in 1970.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Well, if you can remember what day of the week you saw it on, and if
> you saw it pretty close to when it opened -- AND, if you can remember
> what theatre it was -- all you need to do is get to a library that has
> the paper -- in your case, The New York Times or some Brooklyn thing (I
> don't know) -- and just find when the movie was playing there. If it
> was on a double bill with "One Million Years, B.C." it shouldn't be too
> hard. There was a time when I wasn't sure the exact date, but I did
> this and figured it out (around 1978 at a library in Levittown, NY).
>
> Now, I remember that I saw PLANET the 2nd time on June 29th, 1968
> because I remember that it was a Saturday and that my father was
> watching ABC's Wide, Wide World of Sports before he took me to it. I
> remembered what was on the show, looked up the TV listing in the paper
> from the time, and that confirmed it. I also discovered that a number
> of theatres and drive-in at that time (the last week in June, 1968) on
> Long Island had double-features of PLANET and ONE MILLION. This may
> have also been true of Brooklyn.
>
> -- Wow
>

That should be head, not hear. Sorry.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> His hear should be more square and the nose not so big. Hope that helps.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Ritter mindwarp19662005@ wrote:
> >
> > this still needs refining guys but some input would help.
> >
>

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

Haha~~!! Seems so simple!

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From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 12:18:13 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA showing at PINEWOOD STUDIOS in UK November 14

Here is the direct link: http://humor. beecy.net/ funny-pictures/ google-maps- ny-to-london/ google-maps- ny-to-london- directions. png

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I can't see the google map but I'm sure it's funny......
>
> probably similar to the response that the Professor and Skipper on Gilligan's Island gave to Mary Ann in the Dracula dream sequence when she asked how did you get here all the way from England..... ."quite simply really, take one step and come up for air, take another step, come up for air......."
>
>

Cameroon—At the Sanaga-Yong Chimpanzee Rescue Center, more than a dozen residents form a gallery of grief, looking on as Dorothy—a beloved female felled in her late 40s by heart failure—is borne to her burial.

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I wonder if this might be a late in the day shot from The Deception? It sort of looks like Sestus' profile and there ARE behind the scenes pics of the opening funeral scene in existence, featuring Sestus.That scene is up on a cliff overlooking the sea and it's just possible that the set photographer had the idea to use the dramatic sunset at the end of shooting (or sunrise at the beginning).Just a suggestion. The Escape CD is a wonderful new doorway into the story of Zira and Cornelius and I just love it.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I just went through every disc I could think of that would have a chimp next to water and I couldn't find it.....even in Tomorrow's tide or The Deception.......I think it's an 'on the set' shot of Roddy at Zuma Beach.......
>
>
> thought maybe it was from Battle on the way to mutant city but as you can see it is not......
>
>
>

Great work, but it looks more like George Lazenby than Don Murray to me.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@...> wrote:
>
> hey james i took your advice and im going to finish his hair smooth him out and bake him tomorrow.
>

Unfortunately, I don't have the viewmaster and not sure who supplied those pics to Kass' site.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I was looking for 11x14 shots of the view master pics. can you help?
> Thanks,
> Chris
>

Thanks Jessica! If anyone on the UK goes to this, please take plenty of pics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Any apes with full gear out in the UK?
> Pinewood Apes screening (This is for the 2001 Burton film)...
>
> http://www.pinewoodgroup.com/gen/drivein.aspx
>
> Here's the link<http://http//www.seetickets.com/see_2009/price.asp?code=428936&userid=%7B1DEDA638-4F1F-46F9-B438-141FBE40630F%7D&filler1=see&filler2=art-srch&filler3=id1see2009>.
>
>
> If you have ape regalia and want to participate in a high profile costume
> event, please contact me off-group to get details. Remake and classic apes
> costumes are welcome. Saturday, November 14. Be there or be square!! A
> special tour of the Pinewood studios may be provided for apes who attend in
> costume...but more details on that as time progresses.
>
> Jess.
>
> Here's my e-mail address, no spaces, though....
>
> j e s s i c a r o t i c h @ g m a i l . c o m
>

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I just love the Escape CD, including the "I Like You" track which almost sound like a theme for
Zira and Cornelius. I never even heard this track before and I love it very much.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 4:40 am
Subject: [pota] Re: ESCAPE CD

 

I wonder if this might be a late in the day shot from The Deception? It sort of looks like Sestus' profile and there ARE behind the scenes pics of the opening funeral scene in existence, featuring Sestus.That scene is up on a cliff overlooking the sea and it's just possible that the set photographer had the idea to use the dramatic sunset at the end of shooting (or sunrise at the beginning).Just a suggestion. The Escape CD is a wonderful new doorway into the story of Zira and Cornelius and I just love it.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
>
> I just went through every disc I could think of that would have a chimp next to water and I couldn't find it.....even in Tomorrow's tide or The Deception... ....I think it's an 'on the set' shot of Roddy at Zuma Beach.......
>
>
> thought maybe it was from Battle on the way to mutant city but as you can see it is not......
>
>
>

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:35 PM, <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

Jess.
Are you still looking for any pictures of Gov. Breck

-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>

Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 7:50 pm
Subject: [pota] Ashton's kid-sized gorilla pullover--not done yet! UGH!!

I did it! I finished Ashton's kid-sized foam latex gorilla pullover (he's 5 years old). The kid-sized gorilla foam latex appliance was purchased raw from Apemania. They even provided black pax paint for me along with lots of other goodies. I just have to make a pair of boot shafts, but I made my deadline of Oct. 30, for the Halloween school parade. Whooo!

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Jessica.

I had blow-ups from the Lost in Space Viewmaster made several years ago. Even the 8x10's were very grainy so I don't think it would blow up to 11x14 vey well either.

 

 

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 2:43 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Larger TV view master pics

 

Unfortunately, I don't have the viewmaster and not sure who supplied those pics to Kass' site.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@. ..> wrote:
>
> Yes, I was looking for 11x14 shots of the view master pics. can you help?
> Thanks,
> Chris
>

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Their address is at the bottom of the schedule PDF. It's 1449 Potomac Ave. Dormont, Pa 15216.

Who ever runs their website should make it easier for people to find.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> The Hollywood Theatre in Dormont, PA (a suburb of Pittsburgh) is showing Planet, Beneath, Escape and Conquest this Saturday October 24!!
> I cannot find the address for the theatre on their website...
>
> http://www.hollywooddormont.com/
>
>
> OCT 24
> Ape-athon
> Planet of the Apes is a 1968 science fiction film directed by Franklin
> J. Schaffner loosely based on the novel La planète des singes by Pierre
> Boulle. The film stars Charlton Heston and features Roddy McDowall, Kim
> Hunter, veteran Shakespearean actor Maurice Evans, James Whitmore,
> James Daly and Linda Harrison.
> 2:00 Planet
> 4:00 Beneath
> 7:00 Escape
> 9:30 Conquest
>

How I would LOVE to see Escape on the big screen! I have only seen the original movie on the big screen twice in my lifetime.

Jess.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Their address is at the bottom of the schedule PDF. It's 1449 Potomac Ave. Dormont, Pa 15216.

Who ever runs their website should make it easier for people to find.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> The Hollywood Theatre in Dormont, PA (a suburb of Pittsburgh) is showing Planet, Beneath, Escape and Conquest this Saturday October 24!!
> I cannot find the address for the theatre on their website...
>
> http://www.hollywooddormont.com/
>
>
> OCT 24
> Ape-athon
> Planet of the Apes is a 1968 science fiction film directed by Franklin
> J. Schaffner loosely based on the novel La planète des singes by Pierre
> Boulle. The film stars Charlton Heston and features Roddy McDowall, Kim
> Hunter, veteran Shakespearean actor Maurice Evans, James Whitmore,
> James Daly and Linda Harrison.
> 2:00 Planet
> 4:00 Beneath
> 7:00 Escape
> 9:30 Conquest
>

Just wanted to thank everyone here again for this wonderous group and all the cool stuff!

~Bill

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Hooligans! Welcome to another grand New Audio Thursday here at
> BrokenSea Audio Productions! We have some amazing audio for you this week,
> four releases worth which I am sure you will enjoy!
>
> Only one week left in our Halloween season. Have you been good? Have you
> been by our *Halloween 2009 site <http://brokensea.com/halloween2009>*? Will
> the spirits spare you their wrath? Only time will tell….
>
> [image: BPOTA]
> *Episode 1*<http://brokensea.com/bpota/2009/10/21/beneath-the-planet-of-the-apes-episode-1/>
>
> [image: Feedback Logo]
> *Feedback: Daddy's Little
> Girl*<http://brokensea.com/feedback/2009/10/22/feedback-a-hero%E2%80%99s-calling-s02e06-daddys-little-girl/>
>
> [image: OTR Swag Cast]
> *OTR Swagcast Halloween Episode
> 4*<http://brokensea.com/otr/2009/10/21/otr-swagcast-halloween-episode-4/>
>
> [image: Eustace Diamonds]*The Eustace Diamonds Chapter
> 69*<http://brokensea.com/eustacediamonds/2009/10/21/the-eustace-diamonds-chapter-69/>
>
> As always…thanks for listening!
> ~David
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://brokensea.com/conan/
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://brokensea.com/conan/
>

Such as the Shark Banner at the top today-LOVE THAT!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "billhollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to thank everyone here again for this wonderous group and all the cool stuff!
>
> ~Bill
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Hooligans! Welcome to another grand New Audio Thursday here at
> > BrokenSea Audio Productions! We have some amazing audio for you this week,
> > four releases worth which I am sure you will enjoy!
> >
> > Only one week left in our Halloween season. Have you been good? Have you
> > been by our *Halloween 2009 site <http://brokensea.com/halloween2009>*? Will
> > the spirits spare you their wrath? Only time will tell….
> >
> > [image: BPOTA]
> > *Episode 1*<http://brokensea.com/bpota/2009/10/21/beneath-the-planet-of-the-apes-episode-1/>
> >
> > [image: Feedback Logo]
> > *Feedback: Daddy's Little
> > Girl*<http://brokensea.com/feedback/2009/10/22/feedback-a-hero%E2%80%99s-calling-s02e06-daddys-little-girl/>
> >
> > [image: OTR Swag Cast]
> > *OTR Swagcast Halloween Episode
> > 4*<http://brokensea.com/otr/2009/10/21/otr-swagcast-halloween-episode-4/>
> >
> > [image: Eustace Diamonds]*The Eustace Diamonds Chapter
> > 69*<http://brokensea.com/eustacediamonds/2009/10/21/the-eustace-diamonds-chapter-69/>
> >
> > As always…thanks for listening!
> > ~David
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> > www.brokensea.net
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes at
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> > http://brokensea.com/conan/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> > www.brokensea.net
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes at
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> > http://www.brokensea.com and
> > CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> > http://brokensea.com/conan/
> >
>

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Some of those earlier stills are really cool and I haven't seen them before...

Capt. Stills

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> lol. :o)
>
>
>
>
>

how come no one mentioned that the blu-ray isolated scores have much more music,and its in dts-ma sound. i was playing conquest and i couldnt believe how much more their was. the the training music and the ape managment music esp.. to make a good cd ,you should ,if you have the pateince record all the isolated music and put that on cd. why arent the cds filled with this music that they are selling. the only reason planet isnt isolated is thay could not find the stereo cues. so use the cd masters. my point being they could as usual done much more and much better. john m

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They look great!

And it looks as if there's

room to grow for many

Halloweens to come.

 

 

In a message dated 10/21/2009 8:21:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

 

I did it!  I finished Ashton's kid-sized foam latex gorilla pullover (he's 5 years old).  The kid-sized gorilla foam latex appliance was purchased raw from Apemania.  They even provided black pax paint for me along with lots of other goodies.  I just have to make a pair of boot shafts, but I made my deadline of Oct. 30, for the Halloween school parade. Whooo!

 

http://img17. imageshack. us/i/dsc01943fd. jpg/

 

http://img9. imageshack. us/i/dsc01959k. jpg/

 

Jessica.

 

 

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Love me some Chronicles on a friday! AWSOME JOB!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Well it's friday again and that means a new installment of APE CITY
> CHRONICLES is now available.
> To access click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> .
>
> Our celebration of the 35th anniversary of the POTA TV series continues
> with the one sheet for "The Surgeon" designed by the great Dave Ballard.
> And this one is my personal favorite. It is displayed on the group's
> Yahoo! home page (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/> ). Be sure to stop by an
> take a look.
>
> Hi-res versions of all the one sheets to date are available in the
> group's Photos section in the folder 'TV Series One Sheets'
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/2097596223/pic/list
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/2097596223/pic/list> )
> and will soon be available on Hunter's Site (https://pota.goatley.com/
> <https://pota.goatley.com/> ).
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Group Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original
> POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more. * POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * Cornelius' Journal
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> – Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
> contributed by members.
>

A special BrokenSea BONUS! Here's the first of the unofficial BrokenSea Beneath the Planet of the Apes Digital Trading Cards.

http://brokensea.com/bpota/podpress_trac/web/7/0/BPOTA_LawgiverCard.pdf

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/

I am about 90% sure I still have these from my youth-or at least some of them. I will look over the weekend and attempt to scan them at work and see if I can make them work etc.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:
>
> James,
> Thanks anyway.
> Chris
>

"how come no one mentioned that the blu-ray isolated scores have much
more music,and its in dts-ma sound. i was playing conquest and i
couldnt believe how much more their was. the the training music and the
ape managment music esp.. to make a good cd ,you should ,if you have
the pateince record all the isolated music and put that on cd. why
arent the cds filled with this music that they are selling. the only
reason planet isnt isolated is thay could not find the stereo cues. so
use the cd masters. my point being they could as usual done much more
and much better. john m"

This post has me confused. I copied all the cues off the ESCAPE
Blu-ray and made a CD and it's all on the Varese Sarabande CD, though
not in the same order.

I haven't explored all of CONQUEST, so I don't know what you talking
about.

In the case of BENEATH, there's actually more on the CD than you'll
hear on the Blu-ray's isolated score, and many times when you should be
hearing the score (albit re-edited) you hear nothing.

In the case of PLANET... they most certainly do have all the cues in
stereo -- they're no the CD! Why that Blu-ray doesn't have an isolated
score I don't understand, except that maybe -- because the PLANET
Blu-ray was prepared first, then, I'm told, at the last moment Fox
decided they should release the entire series at once -- Fox thought
the PLANET Blu-ray had enough extras and the master Blu-ray was done,
but with the sequels they thought they needed more to sell them?

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 6:13 am
Subject: [pota] blu-ray has more sountrack cues








how come no one mentioned that the blu-ray isolated scores have much
more music,and its in dts-ma sound. i was playing conquest and i
couldnt believe how much more their was. the the training music and the
ape managment music esp.. to make a good cd ,you should ,if you have
the pateince record all the isolated music and put that on cd. why
arent the cds filled with this music that they are selling. the only
reason planet isnt isolated is thay could not find the stereo cues. so
use the cd masters. my point being they could as usual done much more
and much better. john m

it seems like most fans are into toys[i dont mean that derogartorialy]and obscure kiddie stuff, you know me probably the best. i went through years of fighting with the idiots at fox [b.p.] and others and my main concern was the best picture and sound and the return of conquest to its original phoenix preview which it hasnt.i almost found the original 4 track sound of planet in pennsylvania through adds and such from laserdisc rags and other sources. i met joe russo and went to his apartment in jersey with my friend and he showed me alot of the stuff that ended up on the dvd-blu-rays.[i was his pen pal back in 1974]. i procured almost every style poster and lobby card thats available and alot of overseas stuff.i feel like im the only one that thinks that the film and film elements are the most important. that is why we are always handed this baby stuff at every new release.the blu-rays are almost their but planet and some conquest still need help. now this so called new film with a great[in my view]idea is in limbo.we are treated like children from fox and its mostly our fault. these dvd covers, apemania[thankgod for them in many ways]and such are to the powers that be that we are over grown basement dwellers.unfortunatly i dought we will ever get what i feel is still out their. stop the toys and threat us like the men and woman we are. fix planet of the apes! ranting again john m pota68@

How does the Lawgiver fit into this adaptation of BENEATH?!!! By the
time of BENEATH, he'd been dead for twelve hundred years. Does his
statue talk or something?

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; powerrecords@yahoogroups.com; zounds_group
<Zounds_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 10:48 am
Subject: [pota] BONUS a BrokenSea Beneath-POTA Unofficial DIGITAL
TRADING CARD! FREE! Online NOW!









A special BrokenSea BONUS! Here's the first of the unofficial BrokenSea
Beneath the Planet of the Apes Digital Trading Cards.
Free for Download-for all simians to enjoy! This week we bring you; THE
LAWGIVER!

Played STUNNINGLY by MARK KALITA!

http://brokensea.com/bpota/podpress_trac/web/7/0/BPOTA_LawgiverCard.pdf


--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!

www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk

Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama

http://brokensea.com/conan/

listen to the ape managment training cues especially and the outside training flute based cues their is alot more music and the cue when casar clunks the guard over the head after getting electrocuted,the music is totaly different after breck says "shall we go back to work." its their listen.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> > "how come no one mentioned that the blu-ray isolated scores have much
> more music,and its in dts-ma sound. i was playing conquest and i
> couldnt believe how much more their was. the the training music and the
> ape managment music esp.. to make a good cd ,you should ,if you have
> the pateince record all the isolated music and put that on cd. why
> arent the cds filled with this music that they are selling. the only
> reason planet isnt isolated is thay could not find the stereo cues. so
> use the cd masters. my point being they could as usual done much more
> and much better. john m"
>
> This post has me confused. I copied all the cues off the ESCAPE
> Blu-ray and made a CD and it's all on the Varese Sarabande CD, though
> not in the same order.
>
> I haven't explored all of CONQUEST, so I don't know what you talking
> about.
>
> In the case of BENEATH, there's actually more on the CD than you'll
> hear on the Blu-ray's isolated score, and many times when you should be
> hearing the score (albit re-edited) you hear nothing.
>
> In the case of PLANET... they most certainly do have all the cues in
> stereo -- they're no the CD! Why that Blu-ray doesn't have an isolated
> score I don't understand, except that maybe -- because the PLANET
> Blu-ray was prepared first, then, I'm told, at the last moment Fox
> decided they should release the entire series at once -- Fox thought
> the PLANET Blu-ray had enough extras and the master Blu-ray was done,
> but with the sequels they thought they needed more to sell them?
>
> -- Rory
>

fox was never able to get the original good sounding tracks for video release and i guess never will. the sound on the blu-ray for planet of the apes, is bad. like i said many times before when hbo and cinemax played the films in the early 90s they sounded wonderfull[full, dynamic , mono,some stereo] the way i remember them. i like most of you recorded them from tv in the early 70s and at drive-ins[i hard wired it into a great reel to reel sony deck]. planets tracks are several generations down from those original days.even bart pierce admitted they made a lame attempt and that rca studios and some salt mines in kansas[his words not mine]had great stereo tracks of planet but it would cost to much.hbo and cinemax did their own mastering at that time but they did right. i sent another post talking about the same thing so ill stop.planets sound is shamefull in every way .

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Yep, all true. - Scott B. --- On Fri, 10/23/09, johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> wrote: From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> Subject: [pota] planet sound on dvd blu-ray is bad To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 9:07 PM   fox was never able to get the original good sounding tracks for video release and i guess never will. the sound on the blu-ray for planet of the apes, is bad. like i said many times before when hbo and cinemax played the films in the early 90s they sounded wonderfull[full, dynamic , mono,some stereo] the way i remember them. i like most of you recorded them from tv in the early 70s and at drive-ins[i hard wired it into a great reel to reel sony deck]. planets tracks are several generations down from those original days.even bart pierce admitted they made a lame attempt and that rca studios and some salt mines in kansas[his words not mine]had great stereo tracks of planet but it would cost to much.hbo and cinemax did their own mastering at that time but they did right. i sent another post talking about the same thing so ill stop.planets sound is shamefull in every way .

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On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 7:10 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

How does the Lawgiver fit into this adaptation of BENEATH?!!! By the
time of BENEATH, he'd been dead for twelve hundred years. Does his
statue talk or something?

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com; powerrecords@yahoogroups.com; zounds_group
<Zounds_group@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 10:48 am
Subject: [pota] BONUS a BrokenSea Beneath-POTA Unofficial DIGITAL
TRADING CARD! FREE! Online NOW!

A special BrokenSea BONUS! Here's the first of the unofficial BrokenSea
Beneath the Planet of the Apes Digital Trading Cards.
Free for Download-for all simians to enjoy! This week we bring you; THE
LAWGIVER!

Played STUNNINGLY by MARK KALITA!

http://brokensea.com/bpota/podpress_trac/web/7/0/BPOTA_LawgiverCard.pdf

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!

www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk

Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama

http://brokensea.com/conan/

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/

the reason planet of the apes did not have an isolated track is because the sound is awful,thats it! the cd is good enough. by the way they started using the cd soundtrack for the movie back a few years ago in hope that no one would notice. its nowhere near as dynamic as the original tracks even the crappy ones on the old video tapes.ex..when taylor looks at the time meter before abandoning ship you now hear a loud brass impact that was never their since 1968 to about2000, it only appears on the cd soundtrack,and so many other places.in other words they used the cd master for the music and not well either,why all the crackling distortion and audio levels all over the place. it justs bothers me that other than scott and jeff and a few others its never discussed and this is a classic.foxs films from the 40s and 50s sound better,and stop the stereo crap, if its not in stereo dont make it so.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> Yep, all true.
> - Scott B.
>
> --- On Fri, 10/23/09, johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...>
> Subject: [pota] planet sound on dvd blu-ray is bad
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 9:07 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> fox was never able to get the original good sounding tracks for video release and i guess never will. the sound on the blu-ray for planet of the apes, is bad. like i said many times before when hbo and cinemax played the films in the early 90s they sounded wonderfull[full, dynamic , mono,some stereo] the way i remember them. i like most of you recorded them from tv in the early 70s and at drive-ins[i hard wired it into a great reel to reel sony deck]. planets tracks are several generations down from those original days.even bart pierce admitted they made a lame attempt and that rca studios and some salt mines in kansas[his words not mine]had great stereo tracks of planet but it would cost to much.hbo and cinemax did their own mastering at that time but they did right. i sent another post talking about the same thing so ill stop.planets sound is shamefull in every way .
>

"I feel like I'm the only one that thinks that the film and film
elements are the most important."

Well, I'm with you. For me, "Planet of the Apes" is the 1968 movie and
it all starts there (the original novel is on a different plain). I
mostly care about how good the movie looks and sounds, which is why I
get most excited when some better presentation is coming along
(letterboxed transfers, then DVD, then Blu-ray), or when I hear that
the original film elements are being restored and some such.

I still think the movie can look and sound better than it does on
Blu-ray, but when we'll get it, or if it'll have to wait for yet
another media format only the Lawgiver knows.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 8:31 pm
Subject: [pota] to jeff k am i out of touch, your friend john m








it seems like most fans are into toys[i dont mean that
derogartorialy]and obscure kiddie stuff, you know me probably the best.
i went through years of fighting with the idiots at fox [b.p.] and
others and my main concern was the best picture and sound and the
return of conquest to its original phoenix preview which it hasnt.i
almost found the original 4 track sound of planet in pennsylvania
through adds and such from laserdisc rags and other sources. i met joe
russo and went to his apartment in jersey with my friend and he showed
me alot of the stuff that ended up on the dvd-blu-rays.[i was his pen
pal back in 1974]. i procured almost every style poster and lobby card
thats available and alot of overseas stuff.i feel like im the only one
that thinks that the film and film elements are the most important.
that is why we are always handed this baby stuff at every new
release.the blu-rays are almost their but planet and some conquest
still need help. now this so called new film with a great[in my
view]idea is in limbo.we are treated like children from fox and its
mostly our fault. these dvd covers, apemania[thankgod for them in many
ways]and such are to the powers that be that we are over grown basement
dwellers.unfortunatly i dought we will ever get what i feel is still
out their. stop the toys and threat us like the men and woman we are.
fix planet of the apes! ranting again john m pota68@

"planets tracks are several generations down from those original
days.even bart pierce admitted they made a lame attempt and that rca
studios and some salt mines in kansas[his words not mine]had great
stereo tracks of planet but it would cost to much."

So, Bart Pierce told you the original stereo tracks for PLANET are in
the Kansas salt mine? This wouldn't surprise me. I've always
suspected that the so-called "Lost" stereo tracks weren't really lost,
just so boxed away someplace that no one knows where the box is.
(Because PLANET was at first going to be released in stereo, but at the
last minute Fox got cheap -- because DOLITTLE was doing little -- and
just opted for mono.) I'm sure the attitude that it would cost too
much to properly retrive them is the real truth. But what is Fox
waiting for?!! The 50th anniversary? The 100th?!!! How long will the
elements last, salt mine or no salt mine?

How much time has the world got? Somebody has to begin to care.

What I'm really most upset about with the Blu-ray (other than no
isolated score with commentary) is that they didn't give us the option
of the previous Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack from the 35th anniversary
DVD. I think the fedelity of the DTS HD soundtrack on the Blu-ray is
better, but the 5.1 stereo surround remix is a bad joke.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 9:07 pm
Subject: [pota] planet sound on dvd blu-ray is bad








fox was never able to get the original good sounding tracks for video
release and i guess never will. the sound on the blu-ray for planet of
the apes, is bad. like i said many times before when hbo and cinemax
played the films in the early 90s they sounded wonderfull[full, dynamic
, mono,some stereo] the way i remember them. i like most of you
recorded them from tv in the early 70s and at drive-ins[i hard wired it
into a great reel to reel sony deck]. planets tracks are several
generations down from those original days.even bart pierce admitted
they made a lame attempt and that rca studios and some salt mines in
kansas[his words not mine]had great stereo tracks of planet but it
would cost to much.hbo and cinemax did their own mastering at that time
but they did right. i sent another post talking about the same thing so
ill stop.planets sound is shamefull in every way .

Oh, you poor humans who weren't around back when these films originally
came out, back when there was only PLANET, then when there was BENEATH
and you thought that was it, then the surprise that there'd be an
ESCAPE! Back when these films could only be seen in theatres and you
never knew when you'd see them again, and how fantastic it was when you
were finally going to see them again. I really miss those days.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 12:33 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: APE MARATHON ONSCREEN Oct. 24 in PITTSBURGH








I would too Jess! I've been lucky enough to have seen Planet on screen
four times in the last couple of years...(if you count the TWO showings
in New York that we sat through),.....but the others I only have seen
at the Go APe festival so many years ago.....except Beneath which I saw
twice at a kid's early summer matinee when I was little........it was
odd cause all the other movies of the summer were "Raggedy Ann" or
"Pippi Longstalking" or some other silly thing.....yet there was
Beneath showing...mutants, end of the world and all.....!

Tim

From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 1:45:50 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: APE MARATHON ONSCREEN Oct. 24 in PITTSBURGH












How I would LOVE to see Escape on the big screen! I have only seen the
original movie on the big screen twice in my lifetime.

Jess.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@aol.
com> wrote:





















Their address is at the bottom of the schedule PDF. It's 1449 Potomac
Ave. Dormont, Pa 15216.


Who ever runs their website should make it easier for people to find.


--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
wrote:

>
> The Hollywood Theatre in Dormont, PA (a suburb of Pittsburgh) is

showing Planet, Beneath, Escape and Conquest this Saturday October 24!!

> I cannot find the address for the theatre on their website...
>
> http://www.hollywoo ddormont. com/
>
>
> OCT 24
> Ape-athon

> Planet of the Apes is a 1968 science fiction film directed by

Franklin

> J. Schaffner loosely based on the novel La planète des singes by

Pierre

> Boulle. The film stars Charlton Heston and features Roddy

McDowall, Kim

> Hunter, veteran Shakespearean actor Maurice Evans, James Whitmore,
> James Daly and Linda Harrison.
> 2:00 Planet
> 4:00 Beneath
> 7:00 Escape
> 9:30 Conquest
>

Never heard of him, but what a sad letter. Can you believe it's been
eleven years since Roddy McDowall died?

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 8:45 am
Subject: [pota] a book that never was....








anyone know this guy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RODDY-McDOWALL-original-autograph-PLANET-OF-THE-APES_W0QQitemZ230390927181QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a45e8f4d

> Never heard of him, but what a sad letter. Can you believe it's been
> eleven years since Roddy McDowall died?

People have every right to do what they want, but it always pisses me
off when I see somebody selling off personal letters like this....

And no, I can't believe it's been 11 years. Or 16 years tomorrow
since Vincent Price died....

Hunter

"it justs bothers me that other than scott and jeff and a few others
its never discussed and this is a classic."

Dude, from the time (1991) Fox released that disaster of an original
PLANET letterboxed laserdisc (with the "Chase Stereo Surround") --
before that PLANET always had mono sound with "alot" of hiss -- I was
writing a letter A MONTH to Fox begging them to find PLANET's original
stereo tracks. When I read the happy news that Varese Sarabande was
releasing the entire score on CD (that would be 1997) I thought,
"Fantastic, at least now they can reconstruct it." And they did --
that's what we have in the 5.1 sound on the 35th Anniversary DVD. It's
not the best it can be, but it's better than nothing.

Now, can either you or Scott answer me this: Why does the cue "The
Seachers" sound so different on the DVD and Blu-ray than it does on the
Varese CD? And have either of you noticed how "The Hunt" cue on the
DTS HD Blu-ray track doesn't seem properly mixed?

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 12:00 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: planet sound on dvd blu-ray is bad









the reason planet of the apes did not have an isolated track is because
the sound is awful,thats it! the cd is good enough. by the way they
started using the cd soundtrack for the movie back a few years ago in
hope that no one would notice. its nowhere near as dynamic as the
original tracks even the crappy ones on the old video tapes.ex..when
taylor looks at the time meter before abandoning ship you now hear a
loud brass impact that was never their since 1968 to about2000, it only
appears on the cd soundtrack,and so many other places.in other words
they used the cd master for the music and not well either,why all the
crackling distortion and audio levels all over the place. it justs
bothers me that other than scott and jeff and a few others its never
discussed and this is a classic.foxs films from the 40s and 50s sound
better,and stop the stereo crap, if its not in stereo dont make it so.








--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...>
wrote:

>

> Yep, all true.

> - Scott B.

>

> --- On Fri, 10/23/09, johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...>

> Subject: [pota] planet sound on dvd blu-ray is bad

> To: pota@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 9:07 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> fox was never able to get the original good sounding tracks for

video release and i guess never will. the sound on the blu-ray for
planet of the apes, is bad. like i said many times before when hbo and
cinemax played the films in the early 90s they sounded wonderfull[full,
dynamic , mono,some stereo] the way i remember them. i like most of you
recorded them from tv in the early 70s and at drive-ins[i hard wired it
into a great reel to reel sony deck]. planets tracks are several
generations down from those original days.even bart pierce admitted
they made a lame attempt and that rca studios and some salt mines in
kansas[his words not mine]had great stereo tracks of planet but it
would cost to much.hbo and cinemax did their own mastering at that time
but they did right. i sent another post talking about the same thing so
ill stop.planets sound is shamefull in every way .

>

right on!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "planets tracks are several generations down from those original
> days.even bart pierce admitted they made a lame attempt and that rca
> studios and some salt mines in kansas[his words not mine]had great
> stereo tracks of planet but it would cost to much."
>
> So, Bart Pierce told you the original stereo tracks for PLANET are in
> the Kansas salt mine? This wouldn't surprise me. I've always
> suspected that the so-called "Lost" stereo tracks weren't really lost,
> just so boxed away someplace that no one knows where the box is.
> (Because PLANET was at first going to be released in stereo, but at the
> last minute Fox got cheap -- because DOLITTLE was doing little -- and
> just opted for mono.) I'm sure the attitude that it would cost too
> much to properly retrive them is the real truth. But what is Fox
> waiting for?!! The 50th anniversary? The 100th?!!! How long will the
> elements last, salt mine or no salt mine?
>
> How much time has the world got? Somebody has to begin to care.
>
> What I'm really most upset about with the Blu-ray (other than no
> isolated score with commentary) is that they didn't give us the option
> of the previous Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack from the 35th anniversary
> DVD. I think the fedelity of the DTS HD soundtrack on the Blu-ray is
> better, but the 5.1 stereo surround remix is a bad joke.
>
> -- Rory
>

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to me the original soundtrack of the searchers on the film[tape and first dvd is the right one even though it sounds like garbage].then someone though that the the cd soundtrack can be used because it sounds better but they did not relize that album soundtracks are always made for the album[reverb and other effects are added for the buying public] and the movie soundtrack is made first to get it done for the music editor. the album/cd is recorded later and at a much less rushed atmosphere .foxcbs did the same thing for cabaret i think,the movie escapes me right now.they use the original dialog and sound effects but use the movie ie soundtrack album and mix it for stereo..ha.ha. like said what are they waiting for ,i know its got to be out their,to repeat myself cinemax had a wonderfull soundtrack back in 1991... im tired john m

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "it justs bothers me that other than scott and jeff and a few others
> its never discussed and this is a classic."
>
> Dude, from the time (1991) Fox released that disaster of an original
> PLANET letterboxed laserdisc (with the "Chase Stereo Surround") --
> before that PLANET always had mono sound with "alot" of hiss -- I was
> writing a letter A MONTH to Fox begging them to find PLANET's original
> stereo tracks. When I read the happy news that Varese Sarabande was
> releasing the entire score on CD (that would be 1997) I thought,
> "Fantastic, at least now they can reconstruct it." And they did --
> that's what we have in the 5.1 sound on the 35th Anniversary DVD. It's
> not the best it can be, but it's better than nothing.
>
> Now, can either you or Scott answer me this: Why does the cue "The
> Seachers" sound so different on the DVD and Blu-ray than it does on the
> Varese CD? And have either of you noticed how "The Hunt" cue on the
> DTS HD Blu-ray track doesn't seem properly mixed?
>
> -- Rory
>

i remember you to rory. back about 20-30 years ago i corresponded with you . it was somewhere in port st lucy fl. i think. and didnt you have something to do with one of the laserdisc mags in the 80s.its coming back to me . you take care, you are very knoweledgable about all things apes. remember louis lagrande and how great chce-surround was going to be. from her ny office she expounded the wonders of this new sound medium. boy were we niave.....john m

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "it justs bothers me that other than scott and jeff and a few others
> its never discussed and this is a classic."
>
> Dude, from the time (1991) Fox released that disaster of an original
> PLANET letterboxed laserdisc (with the "Chase Stereo Surround") --
> before that PLANET always had mono sound with "alot" of hiss -- I was
> writing a letter A MONTH to Fox begging them to find PLANET's original
> stereo tracks. When I read the happy news that Varese Sarabande was
> releasing the entire score on CD (that would be 1997) I thought,
> "Fantastic, at least now they can reconstruct it." And they did --
> that's what we have in the 5.1 sound on the 35th Anniversary DVD. It's
> not the best it can be, but it's better than nothing.
>
> Now, can either you or Scott answer me this: Why does the cue "The
> Seachers" sound so different on the DVD and Blu-ray than it does on the
> Varese CD? And have either of you noticed how "The Hunt" cue on the
> DTS HD Blu-ray track doesn't seem properly mixed?
>
> -- Rory
>