--- On Thu, 12/3/09, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:


From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
Subject: [pota] Re: Is this the earliest POTA cash in song?!?
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:40 AM

I assume you're talking about this image which was used on alternate
U.S. one sheets.



--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@
...> wrote:
>
> I was told about 35 years ago that a single to Beneath was issued
it was called "The March", thats i guess when the ape army went into
the forbidden zone. Escape was ready to get released(the whole
soundtrack) but at the last minute it was pulled. I saw the album
cover. It was the one where Cornelius and Zira are running and it has
the look of the gun site on them. The over seas posters use that photo
for their posters and we have it on a couple of the odd size posters. I
saw the article in california at a movie shop off hollywood blvd and a
side street named after a fruit I think. Jeff would know..... john m
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> Hollywood Book and Poster used to be on Las Palmas, just off Hollywood Blvd. Larry Edmunds Movie Bookstore is on Hollywood Blvd.
>
>
>
> Jeff B
>
>
>
> " I
> saw the article in california at a movie shop off hollywood blvd and a
> side street named after a fruit I think."
>

I have Pendreigh's book and re-read some sections this morning. While there is nothing about Sam Jaffe, everything you (and Dario) said about Robinson's exit from the film is correct. I'm sorry for doubting you.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> James I not saying anything wrong really. Im sure you know that the actors respect themselves and each other. the only way he could get out of a contract was health. so heston being friends with robinson and you know how it is. edward g. ask heston to go along with the bad ticker story so he can get out of the movie and keep his beard.In other words they lie. But that is nothing new in this world Im sure you told lies to protect your wife,kids,friends,youself. But the truth from a couple of good sources was his beard thats it. The apes was an unproven venture and getting out was no big deal(you wont know what your missing). Sam could and probably did have the same physical problem ,him at mid 80s at that time. I was going through my books and believe it or not the Brian Pendreigh Planet of the apes book has it in (glad I found). But like everything else who knows. Like i said some people that were their and said the same thing...john m
>
>

Great work Jess. We should have you build a full size version for Kass.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Tadah!
>
> http://img443.imageshack.us/i/dsc02273wu.jpg/
>
> Still massaging the back of his hair, but he should be done soon.
>
> <http://img443.imageshack.us/i/dsc02273wu.jpg/>
>
> Jess.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> John,
> Â
> I too have a PLANET 3-sheet, linen-backed. I paid around $900 for it back in the late '80s, which hurt because I had bought the same poster back in the very early '70s for $15!!!! But, my younger self didn't know how to take care of things. I eventually took that poster to college and had it on my dorm room wall for a while. Anyway, it got so tattered I eventually decided to part with it. Couldn't just throw it out -- SO I BURNED IT!!!! Years later realized I should have kept it and could have had it restored. Really beat myself up over that for a long time.
> Â
> I also bought a PLANET 6-sheet, linen-backed, in the late '90s. Paid $1200 for that. I've looked at it a couple times, but it lives now rolled up in a thick cardboard tube the size of a telephone pole.
> Â
> -- Rory
> Â
> Â

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have Pendreigh's book and re-read some sections this morning. While
> there is nothing about Sam Jaffe, everything you (and Dario) said about
> Robinson's exit from the film is correct. I'm sorry for doubting you.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Don't want to keep beating a dead horse here, but I'm going to bring about the issue of PLANET's 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack again.? I'm doing this because since the Blu-ray came out a year ago I have been listening to it through surround decoders that were made before the introduction of Blu-ray's HD Audio formats, DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD, and because I declared the PLANET HD soundtrack a joke and mostly mono.
> ?
> Well, last Friday I finally bit the bullet and ordered a new A/V receiver from Amazon that includes built-in HD decoders -- a Pioneer VSX-819H that was selling on Amazon for only $268 to replace my now 11-year-old Pioneer VSX-07TX that decoded Dolby Digital 5.1?but had no DTS decoding -- and cost $900 when new!? I had been only able to hear the HD Blu-ray audio from PLANET by setting my player to output a PCM audio signal that gave me two-channel audio that then had to be processed through the old Pioneer's Dolby Pro-Logic processor?to give me a barely passable, center-channel heavy surround with no real stereo separation at all.? It sucked and I've spent a very frustrating year watching PLANET on Blu-ray with this kind of audio.? I've suspected I simply wasn't hearing what I should, but Scott and Al here also seemed to be getting the same result, and they had better surround processors, so I was worried I'd just spent $268 plus postage for little better than what I already had.? However....
> ?
> I got the new A/V receiver?three days ago and I'm happy to report that my suspicions were correct and that properly decoded PLANET's 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio is..... well, not bad.? I can't say it's great because I think the 5.1 stereo/surround mix could be much more imaginative,?but it isn't mostly?mono, does have stereo and surround presence, and the best audio fidelity I've ever hear from the movie's soundtrack (except maybe what I heard back in '68 which I no longer can remember).? The previous "35th Anniversary"?standard DVD had both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 soundtracks, and a French dubbed Dolby 2.0 track, that had better stereo separation but weaker fidelity than the Blu-ray's HD audio.? The dubbed French soundtrack is reprocessed on the Blu-ray in Dolby Digital 5.1 and is definitely a more active surround mix than the new DTS-HD one, BUT the French soundtrack isn't perfect, is dubbed French dialogue of course, and is harsh in the high end.? I have to say now that I prefer the newer DTS-HD mix.? It isn't as?"active" as I'd like, but as I've said, it's not bad.? I haven't yet gotten out the sequels on Blu-ray to give them a listen.
> ?
> As to PLANET's soundtrack on video, either on standard DVD or Blu-ray, NONE accurately reproduce the Goldsmith score as it should be heard, which is, for me, what's heard on the Varese Sarabande CD.? Listening to that in surround is like having the original orchestra right in front of you.? All the different video versions of the movie mess with the original music sound mix, which I wish they didn't do, but I'm not in charge.
> ?
> So, now I wait for the blow back from Scott over this.? As far as I know, he'll still insists the soundtrack is a disaster, but I no longer agree.? But, I've only just started living with it.? Over the course of time my opinion may change again.
> ?
> -- Rory????
>
> =
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:57 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: rumors about a new POTA movie?

 

I think that in sci fi terms, history will look at pre and post Avatar.Post Avatar will be the era during which executives are physically sick at the mention of studio busting CGI sci fi.From what I've seen, Avatar looks like the Doomsday Bomb of sci fi---it looks like complete and total crap.John, Scrolls.

Even though I agree that AVATAR will be crap when looked at simply as a SF film -- just as I thought TITANIC was crap as a drama -- I still have the feeling this AVATAR thing will be a huge hit.  It's going to be the best 3-D, thrill-ride movie ever made, and a lot of kids may end up going to it many times over.

 

BUT.... I could be wrong, and I really don't give a crap how well it does.  Spending $400 Million on one movie is RETARDED and ol' JC has a plastic imagination, but Al thinks he's the greatest.

 

-- Rory

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> For those worried that James Cameron's profligate spending will jeopardize the new POTA suckling at Fox's teet, fear not!
> A Fox spokesperson says "Avatar" was made for a reasonable $ 237 million, plus $ 150 million for marketing, making it cheaper than "Pirates 3", "Spidey 3" and the recent "Harry Potter". A $ 400 million break even point seems doable, plus I understand Fox was in for less than 50% of the budget.
> Fox has not mortgaged POTA's future! Says said spokesman: "The new technology Cameron is using affords budget-saving measures in terms of extras and the environment".
> All that worry over nothing.
>
> http://www.thewrap.com/article/true-cost-and-consequences-avatar-11206
>

>>I never said it wasn't a common practice to cut TV movies from

>>Yes but to the bumpers, not to the movies themselves.<<

>>Which proves my point about nostalgia. Look at how quickly people

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. It's nice to know that our efforts are appreciated.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "billhollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Having a less than stellar day at work, son I snuck over to my fave site, and as always- life is better. Now off to deal with work again-gah-LOL
>

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I don't think I ever said that anyone felt lied to or betrayed but I wouldn't bet that there were absolutely no viewers who may have felt that way.

But that is a diversion from the main point anyway. Which is that FOX created the TV Movies to milk every last drop of money out of the POTA franchise.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Well, they kind of were new from that point of view. But like we both
> acknowledged, they didn't hide what the source material was. Any station
> who had gotten good ratings airing the five films would certainly want to
> exploit that interest further if they could, and the fact that they had
> material which hadn't been on the air in almost six years AND hadn't been
> seen all that much during it's original run was enough for them to call
> it new. If anyone felt lied to/betrayed by the TV station and/or Fox by
> the telemovies being called "The NEW Planet of the Apes", I've yet to
> hear about it.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>

If there was a guaranteed ratings spike, WABC would have done it already. The demographics of the available audience in that daypart most likely wouldn't be interested in seeing that old 4:30 Movie. Since the 4:30 Movie went off the air 28 years ago, elementary, high school and even college age kids home at that time, don't remember it so there is no nostalgia factor for them. And why would they want to see cut up versions of old movies when they can catch them uncut on cable or buy/rent the DVD or download it from NetFlix? Women would probably rather watch Oprah or Tyra or Ellen. And since the 4:30 Movie only started in 1968, the generation that grew up with it hasn't started to retire yet. So most current Retired Adults wouldn't really have a nostagia factor for it either.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> You know what though? If WABC/Channel 7 said they were going to do a
> retro thing during a sweeps period and run four weeks of "The 4:30 Movie"
> (let's say POTA, Superheroes, Godzilla, and Vincent Price) complete with
> the movie edits as they were originally shown and the original bumpers, I
> **guarantee** you there'd be a ratings spike in that time period for
> those four weeks. Plus the increased use of recording devices. I mean,
> we've all sat through the AMC airings (once they went to the commercial
> format), the showings of PLANET on The History Channel, and I'm sure
> there are local stations that still run the films. Plus even when they're
> uncut on something like Cinemax, you still see the pan & scan versions
> when we've all been spoiled with widescreen.
>
> There are worse ways to spend one's time...
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>

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I don't know how accurate they are but their are some blueprints available in the group's Files section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Icarus%20Blueprints/

Hope that helps.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnmaiani@..." <johnmaiani@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone know where i can get some accurate blueprints of the spaceship? Have one sheet.Says its sheet 2 of 4.Bought the Jackill blueprints.What a waste of money.I saw an article in a modeling magazine but the drawings i'm told aren't accurate.The full scale mockup is 45 ft long.Think i've exhausted all the sites online.Any help would be appreciated
>

Great contact sheets. I wonder why Matt is selling them.

Thanks for sending them William.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, found a few contact sheets from planet on ebay from mathew soltis .from william burge
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> For those worried that James Cameron's profligate spending will jeopardize the new POTA suckling at Fox's teet, fear not!
> A Fox spokesperson says "Avatar" was made for a reasonable $ 237 million, plus $ 150 million for marketing, making it cheaper than "Pirates 3", "Spidey 3" and the recent "Harry Potter". A $ 400 million break even point seems doable, plus I understand Fox was in for less than 50% of the budget.
> Fox has not mortgaged POTA's future! Says said spokesman: "The new technology Cameron is using affords budget-saving measures in terms of extras and the environment".
> All that worry over nothing.
>
> http://www.thewrap.com/article/true-cost-and-consequences-avatar-11206
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Seems a lame reason.
> He didn't start with one.
> It wasn't his trademark.
> I'd shave my entire body
> for massive movie money.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/4/2009 10:29:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> johnmermigas@... writes:
>
> You know the real reason that edward g robinson refused to play zaius is
> beacause he would have to shave of his beard. He did have a heart condition
> but the real reason was his beard.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> http://ucisca.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/conquest-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-filmed-on-campus-in-1972/
>

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To quote Telly Savalas in Capricorn One....

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@...> wrote:
>
> The couple having sex in the black van? Oh wait is that just me seeing that?
>  
> -Chris
>

Great pic, Rory! Where did you find it?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Anyone here notice something in this photo?
> ?
> -- Rory
>

This is hysterical!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_UG8ub3aoY

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnmaiani@..." <johnmaiani@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone know where i can get some accurate blueprints of the spaceship? Have one sheet.Says its sheet 2 of 4.Bought the Jackill blueprints.What a waste of money.I saw an article in a modeling magazine but the drawings i'm told aren't accurate.The full scale mockup is 45 ft long.Think i've exhausted all the sites online.Any help would be appreciated
>

----- Original Message -----

From: jamesa1102

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:32 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Think 20th

 

Great pic, Rory! Where did you find it?

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Anyone here notice something in this photo?
> ?
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> If Avatar is successful, the next Planet of the Apes movie can very well be motion capture.
> One of the things that Cameron said about motion capture was that it prevents an actor from sitting in a makeup chair for four hours everyday.
>
> Things that make you go humm.... :o)
>
> AlÂ
>
>
>
>

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TGIF! This week's installement of APE CITY CHRONICLES is now available

To access click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm.

Our celebration the 35th anniversary of the POTA TV series concludes with the one sheet for "Up Above the World so High" displayed on the group's Yahoo! home page (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/). Be sure to stop by an take a look.

Hi-res versions of all the one sheets to date are available in the group's Photos section in the folder 'TV Series One Sheets'  (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/2097596223/pic/list) and will soon be available on Hunter's Site (https://pota.goatley.com/).

This is the last of the TV series one sheets and the end of a project that began last April. Thanks to the great Dave Ballard for his contribution to this project. We hope everyone liked what we did.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Group Website  - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• POTA Locations  - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• Cornelius' Journal  - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• The Art Gallery  - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section  - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
• The Photos Section  - POTA pics contributed by members.

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>>This months SciFi Now mag has a great four page article about the

Thanks Rich, Ricardo and Hunter! All this stuff is really great.

Thanks for sharing.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> A major update on my Apes site!
>
> Thanks to Rich Handley and Doug Moench, Mr. Moench's three unpublished
> Apes stories originally intended for Marvel's Apes magazine are now
> available for your reading pleasure! These stories have never seen
> the light of day before now.
>
> Thanks to Ricardo Lopez, Spanish lobby cards for the first film are
> available.
>
> And thanks to James and Dave, high-res versions of all fourteen of
> their TV posters are available.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>

Very cool Rory. Thanks.

The cloud pattern is so obvious. Is that a painting?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Here's something else I just created with screen capture you might find interesting.
> ?
> -- Rory
>

Is that the same issue that has the article on the TV series?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> I finally found a copy (issue 34) this past week (Barnes & Noble is a
> full month behind), and I noticed in their 'Time Warp/The Year That
> Was...' section that they covered 1971. So not only was ESCAPE mentioned,
> but also great films like THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN, THE OMEGA MAN, THX 1138,
> and one of the best Science Fiction TV series ever: UFO. This got me to
> thinking that- presumably- the previous issue would cover 1970 and as
> such, BENEATH would be included. Does anyone here have a copy of issue 33
> who could verify?
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "John B Kirtley" johnbkirtley@... wrote:
>
> >>This months SciFi Now mag has a great four page article about the TV
> series. A Retro-reassessment
> that is very interesting and has some great pictures. >>
> > Stock Options
> Click to learn about options trading and get the latest information.
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>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Silent Slob?
> Yeah, I often have to keep
> myself in check. Cussing
> a blue streak isn't second
> nature for me, it's first. I've
> used oaths that would make
> a sailor blush. But sometimes
> four letter words are my palette.
> Though like any good effect in
> music, film, literature or any art
> they should be used sparingly
> and chosen carefully. I think
> the younger generation just
> think they're being funny. But
> it often just comes off crass or
> lame. It no longer has shock
> value. That one reason I think
> if you want to have a shocking
> new POTA it needs an R- Rating.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2009 9:09:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> I think Kevin Smith is probably an alright decent dude, but he's also a
> slob.
>

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:54 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Thanks Rich, Ricardo and Hunter! All this stuff is really great.

Thanks for sharing.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> A major update on my Apes site!
>
> Thanks to Rich Handley and Doug Moench, Mr. Moench's three unpublished
> Apes stories originally intended for Marvel's Apes magazine are now
> available for your reading pleasure! These stories have never seen
> the light of day before now.
>
> Thanks to Ricardo Lopez, Spanish lobby cards for the first film are
> available.
>
> And thanks to James and Dave, high-res versions of all fourteen of
> their TV posters are available.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Anyone else ever notice this thing during PLANET?? I do every time I watch.? Is it just coincidence, an acident while filming,?or an old relic of an ape-like mutant dog civilization?
> ?
> -- Rory
>