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May not have been the only time.

I remember he also did a Western

with Dean Martin & Robert Mitchum

called 5 Card Stud.  If that was a Fox

film it was likely shot at the Fox Ranch.

 

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That's actually very common.

John Ford mad a lot of Westerns

using Monument Valley as a location,

usually to substitute for the Big Bend

Country. It's closer to LA and topography

is more majestic. However it's also more

distinctive.  So they just move to the other

side and shoot the next scene at a different

angle, a bit like one of those student films I

did where we had to sub a backyard for the

wood because we were loosing the light.

 

In a message dated 12/13/2009 12:47:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

So they walked around in circles?

 

Bruce

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I never met Mr. Smith myself but he seems like a nice guy.

When I posted the clip from U-Tube I didn't think that everyone would be focused on Smith. I thought it was more about Burton and where his mind was at after the remake was released.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joeyobrien2003" <job1866@...> wrote:
>
> I never had a problem with him. When he lived here in Ocean Township I used to run into him all the time at the video store and he'd talk a blue streak about movies in general, also saw Sleepy Hollow with him. I'm not a big fan of his movies, never saw Clerks. Ive always been more into Apes and Scifi/horror movies. His buddy ran the comic book shop in Red Bank, NJ.............joe
>

Is that issue out yet? If so, can you tell us about it?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John B Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
>
> They don't follow a time line. They just pick good years. The next issue has an article about POTA in the series "best Sci-Fi ever" that has included Alien, Star Wars etc
> John
>
>
>
>

Interesting. It sounds as if Roddy spent a good part of his life on the Fox Ranch.

Wasn't the Ape City in Battle filmed at that location too?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> OK, here's another batch of screen captures.? The top black and white photo is from Fox's 1941 Oscar Best Picture "How Green Was My Valley."? It's supposed to be set in South Wales, England, but because of WWII they instead shot it at the Fox Ranch in Malibu, CA.? The kid being carried away in the shot is 12-year-old Roddy McDowall and just to his left, in the distance is a meadow.? That's where the cornfield was in "Planet of the Apes" some twenty-seven years later.
> ?
> In the left of the shot from HGWMV you see a small smokestack in front of two men.? The area of the meadow behind that smokestack corresponds to the area shown in the first shot from PLANET just below it, and the area shown in the second shot from PLANET?corresponds approximately to that behind the man carrying McDowall, and this means that the hilltop from which the shot from HGWMV was taken is just outside of the right side of the second?shot from PLANET.
> ?
> This meadow is still there and can be easily viewed on Google Earth.
> ?
> I hope I'm making this clear for everyone and that you all find this as fascinating as I do.? I got more stuff coming.
> ?
> -- Rory
>

Thanks Rory. That's a generous offer.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> By the way, if anyone here has noticed something they find interesting?in one of the POTA films or TV shows that you'd like to share with the group, post what it is and at what time it's on the screen (just look at the display on your DVD player after you still the image) and I'll be glad to capture it and post it in the group for you -- I have nothing better to do.
>

I always wondered why they didn't do comic adaptions of the TV series. Assuming 3 chapters for each episode that would have given them enough for another 42 issues.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "smugster2000" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Great work, Rich!
>
> It's always wonderful to see what might have been but... well... maybe the Marvel title was cancelled about the right time.
>
> I think All 3 running sagas (Terror, Chronicles and Derek Zane) had run their natural course and were headed further and further away from what made them so memorable to begin with. It would have been interesting to see more new stories, which is why 'Forbidden Zone Prime' is so intriguing.
>
> But hat's off to you for your detective work, to Hunter for hosting and of course to Doug for sharing.
>
> Dave B
>

Cool but in that pic Daryl Zanuck looks like a mafia Don. LOL

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, heres two photos on richard zanuck -frirst one showing father and son 1968 the socond one a current photo . from william burge
>

That's great William. Where did you find that power records ad?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, heres some more planet photos and the ad for the planet of the apes power records from 1974 . from william burge
>

Weird. That is a strange coincidence if it is one.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Anyone else ever notice this thing during PLANET?? I do every time I watch.? Is it just coincidence, an acident while filming,?or an old relic of an ape-like mutant dog civilization?
> ?
> -- Rory
>

Well most people walk around in circles when they are lost in the desert. ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> So they walked around in circles?
>
> Bruce
>
>

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That would have been very cool indeed! Wish someone would nowadays...

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

I always wondered why they didn't do comic adaptions of the TV series. Assuming 3 chapters for each episode that would have given them enough for another 42 issues.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "smugster2000" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Great work, Rich!
>
> It's always wonderful to see what might have been but... well... maybe the Marvel title was cancelled about the right time.
>
> I think All 3 running sagas (Terror, Chronicles and Derek Zane) had run their natural course and were headed further and further away from what made them so memorable to begin with. It would have been interesting to see more new stories, which is why 'Forbidden Zone Prime' is so intriguing.
>
> But hat's off to you for your detective work, to Hunter for hosting and of course to Doug for sharing.
>
> Dave B
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2009 4:16 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Locations on the Planet of the Apes (Part Two)

 

Well most people walk around in circles when they are lost in the desert. ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> So they walked around in circles?
>
> Bruce
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: jamesa1102

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:07 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Kevin Smith vs. Tim Burton

 

I never met Mr. Smith myself but he seems like a nice guy.

When I posted the clip from U-Tube I didn't think that everyone would be focused on Smith. I thought it was more about Burton and where his mind was at after the remake was released.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "joeyobrien2003" <job1866@...> wrote:
>
> I never had a problem with him. When he lived here in Ocean Township I used to run into him all the time at the video store and he'd talk a blue streak about movies in general, also saw Sleepy Hollow with him. I'm not a big fan of his movies, never saw Clerks. Ive always been more into Apes and Scifi/horror movies. His buddy ran the comic book shop in Red Bank, NJ.......... ...joe
>

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That may partly explain Kevin Smith's real affinity for the Daredevil character, who is one of the few overtly Catholic figures in comics.The only other one I can think of off the top of my had is Pope John Paul II who Marvel did a comic on, but that's cheating.It's ironic that a guy as deep as Smith gets associated with sweary movies.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I talked to Smith when he was filming the POTA cornfield hunt parody in "Jay and Silent Bob". Big POTA fan and a nice guy but I was surprised how seriously he takes his religion. Or at least he did in 2001. LOTS of Catholic bumper stickers on his car. So it's no mystery where his "Buddy Christ" dashboard concept came from. And he wanted to keep the head piece of the ape Hunt Leader in the scene.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Christ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jamesa1102
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:07 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Kevin Smith vs. Tim Burton
>
>
>
>
> I never met Mr. Smith myself but he seems like a nice guy.
>
> When I posted the clip from U-Tube I didn't think that everyone would be focused on Smith. I thought it was more about Burton and where his mind was at after the remake was released.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joeyobrien2003" <job1866@> wrote:
> >
> > I never had a problem with him. When he lived here in Ocean Township I used to run into him all the time at the video store and he'd talk a blue streak about movies in general, also saw Sleepy Hollow with him. I'm not a big fan of his movies, never saw Clerks. Ive always been more into Apes and Scifi/horror movies. His buddy ran the comic book shop in Red Bank, NJ.............joe
> >
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:33 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Kevin Smith vs. Tim Burton

 

This is hysterical!  http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=j_UG8ub3aoY

It would be nice though if Smith could talk for more than twenty seconds without using some kind of expletive.  He's part and parcel of how the culture has devolved over the last half century.  Crass is king!

 

-- Rory

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: jamesa1102

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:34 PM

Subject: [pota] Kevin Smith vs. Tim Burton

 

This is hysterical!  http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=j_UG8ub3aoY

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Kevin Smith vs. Tim Burton

 

This is how people talk.

Yes, and I talk like that too -- but sometimes, and sparingly, and if I'm in front of a certain audience, whether it's 200 hundred people or just two, I check my language to make sure I don't come off as a foulmouthed crass A-Hole!  I do it for myself, not just those who might be listening.  It's simply a question of "do you have common decency, dignity and a sense of decorum -- or don't you?"

 

I think Kevin Smith is probably an alright decent dude, but he's also a slob.

 

-- Rory 

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----- Original Message -----

From: scott bosco

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:53 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Kevin Smith vs. Tim Burton

 

BRAVO!  Maybe if he hadn't burned most of his brain out with drugs he'd function better.  ...then again, flies tend to gravitate to feces. - Scott B.

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On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:

Jessica, Any updates on those painted heads? Thanks, Chris Sutton

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I thought folks in the group would enjoy seeing this new model of the Icarus.

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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-----Original Message-----
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Went to the site, Rory ,of the Planet of the Apes model and the sites other goodies. I love how one persons made up name of the ship has become fact . The ship , if im wrong correct me, never ever had a name. When I was young we always wondered what or where a name can be found. One day a fan made up a name and now its the name, amazing. The point of this post is looking around the site and seeing the accolades for 2001 A space odessey. I was their in 1968 and after, and never could find two people who liked the film or two critics who liked or agreed (though I never cared for critics), but in those days they were much more educated and knew film. My point is only scholastics and pardon my wording, nerds who were in love with astronomy and some burnt out hippies ever gave it a thumbs up. I still cannot find many people who have a real love for the film ,like fans do of Apes that it astounds me that it is mostly preferable to Apes as science fiction dogma, or where science fiction got adult. I have the film and like it to a degree that it is ambiguous and thought provoking, but it is boring. If not for the going through the great beyond and its light show to wake you up., its a rather tedious excersise and highly subjective of meaning.Who knows mayby I dont get it? John m

2001 is one of my favourites as is Apes BUT it is wrong (imho) to
compare the two as they are two totally different types of film - I
liked in it the early 70's and still like it now (I was not a nerd etc)
- it is very much n acquired taste.

KJ

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> That model has been out for years, Red. I have one. Keep it next to my Sideshow Astronaut Taylor.

Rory,

Did you build and paint it yourself?

Dave B

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kevin <pellew@...> wrote:

>
> 2001 is one of my favourites as is Apes BUT it is wrong (imho) to
> compare the two as they are two totally different types of film - I
> liked in it the early 70's and still like it now (I was not a nerd etc)
> - it is very much n acquired taste.
>
> KJ
>

Im not a nerd persee, but have nerdy habits, it was not meant as an insult, but I remember vividly back 30-40 years ago the type of fan 2001 attracted(Im talking about repeat viewers who were kids that talked endlessly about the spaceships and burnouts who couldnt wait for the light show at the end). To put it another way the 2001 fans were mathematicians and Ape fans were socialogists. Im trying for an analogy but its hard without making someone sneer. Eggheads both but different.Ape fans enjoy the time travel aspects but not nessesarly the math involved. Im only comparing them because 2001 gets the most prestige about how sci-fi grew up in 1968 whenever the two are involved in a written piece. How it can be in so many top ten list is beyond me. Im probably not smart enough. Though it is mostly about the technical aspects of film making, not narative, that it gets points for. Thats the best way to say it, 2001 technical, Apes story telling.

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IMO The point of the clip is that 1) the ending of the remake was so lame that Smith had already put it in a comic book and 2) Tim Burton can really be a jerk.

BTW Anyone wanting to see the POTA spoof from 'Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back', it is available in the group website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Jay&SilentBob.htm

With or without the beard?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>  Maybe if I'm lucky Rory can send me an EverythingLandon image.
>
> Jess.
>
>
>

The Topps trading cards (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OriginalCards.htm) called the ship Air Force One. The mock documentary on the Blu-Ray disc called it Liberty One.

I've always prefered to think of it as ANSA One myself.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> Went to the site, Rory ,of the Planet of the Apes model and the sites other goodies. I love how one persons made up name of the ship has become fact . The ship , if im wrong correct me, never ever had a name. When I was young we always wondered what or where a name can be found. One day a fan made up a name and now its the name, amazing.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>
>
> The Topps trading cards
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OriginalCards.htm
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OriginalCards.htm>
> ) called the ship Air Force One. The mock documentary on the Blu-Ray
> disc called it Liberty One.
>
> I've always prefered to think of it as ANSA One myself.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Went to the site, Rory ,of the Planet of the Apes model and the sites
> other goodies. I love how one persons made up name of the ship has
> become fact . The ship , if im wrong correct me, never ever had a name.
> When I was young we always wondered what or where a name can be found.
> One day a fan made up a name and now its the name, amazing.
>

Believe it or not you sparked a memorie. I think the ANSA symbol or name was involved in a name giving in some game or kids book. Itll come back to me. John M

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OK Rory take a deep breath and maybe have a cup of tea to calm down. LOL

But seriously everyone, the purpose of this group is to discuss POTA. Dicussing other films in relation to POTA is ok but lately too many threads have deviated too far from that. If you want to discuss Avatar, the films of Kevin Smith, 2001: A Space Odyssey or anything else unrelated to POTA, there are plenty of other groups and forums where you can do that.

We try not to censor anyone unless there is a blatant violation of group guidelines. However, this is the third or fourth time in recent weeks that I've had to ask the group to please stay on topic. Please don't force us to have to start rejecting posts because they are too far off topic. Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Wait one moment.... I have to calm myself down.... OK, let's go....
> ?
> I'M A HUGE FAN OF 2001!!!!!!??? How dare you, Sir??? HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!
> ?
> I saw it not long after POTA in 1968 when I was nine years old.? I went with just my father on a?gray, drizzly?Saturday afternoon to a Cinerama theatre in Hicksville Long Island, New York.? I thought the movie wonderful and it's one of my cherished childhood memories.? Ever since '68, "2001: A Space Odyssey" has been my second favorite film next to POTA and remains so.
> ?
> Having said that, I can understand why others don't like it and find it boring, but I love it.? I've seen it so many times, though, that often when I put it on, I use it to help put me to sleep for a nice afternoon nap!
> ?
> By the way, the Blu-ray of 2001 is probably the best classic film out there.? I only wish POTA was as good on Blu-ray as 2001 is.
> ?
> My third favorite films these days.... "The Sand Pebbles" with Steve McQueen.? Got something negative to say about that one, John?
> ?
> -- Rory
>

Did you reenact the sinking scene?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, of course.? That's half the fun of owning it.? And after I built it (glued the whole thing together -- can't open it), I played with it in the pool!? Held up with no damage at all.? The windows didn't even pop out.?
> ?
> -- Rory
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>
> OK Rory take a deep breath and maybe have a cup of tea to calm down. LOL
>
> But seriously everyone, the purpose of this group is to discuss POTA.
> Dicussing other films in relation to POTA is ok but lately too many
> threads have deviated too far from that. If you want to discuss Avatar,
> the films of Kevin Smith, 2001: A Space Odyssey or anything else
> unrelated to POTA, there are plenty of other groups and forums where you
> can do that.
>
> We try not to censor anyone unless there is a blatant violation of group
> guidelines. However, this is the third or fourth time in recent weeks
> that I've had to ask the group to please stay on topic. Please don't
> force us to have to start rejecting posts because they are too far off
> topic. Thanks.
>
>

James this the last time i mention ughhhh you know. I happen to be a Steve Mcqueen fan so no trouble here. By the way the director of that film we were talking about is a 3rd cousin, Im half jewish and our reletives are in England and Brooklyn. John M

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> So, you don't like 2001, eh?
>

Im on the bottom again! By the way ,saw 2001 at the same theater as apes I think. Apes in syosset somewhere and 2001 I think at the 135, but it was called something else mayby. Memorie is foggy except Apes was much better SIR!!! With all humility John M

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> James, you need to relax.? It's pretty obvious I'm joking around -- and having a good time doing it (see screen capture in other post).
> ?

Which is why I added the LOL at the end. That means Laugh Out Loud BTW, which means By The Way. ;-)

> Why are you such a spoiler, James?? And I think that talking -- a little -- about other things doesn't do any harm here.? Isn't this a Yahoo group for people who love POTA, not a Yahoo group about only POTA all the time?
> ?

Yes but off topic stuff should be the exception, but it seems to becoming more of the rule lately.

Just watched Delgo for the first time this past weekend. Anyone else think that some of the Lokni and Nohrin faces resememble POTA chimps? Maybe a cross between POTA chimps and the Gelflings from Dark Crystal?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:52 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: I cannot understand the love of 2001

 

The point of this post is looking around the site and seeing the accolades for 2001 A space odessey. I was their in 1968 and after, and never could find two people who liked the film or two critics who liked or agreed (though I never cared for critics), but in those days they were much more educated and knew film. My point is only scholastics and pardon my wording, nerds who were in love with astronomy and some burnt out hippies ever gave it a thumbs up. I still cannot find many people who have a real love for the film ,like fans do of Apes that it astounds me that it is mostly preferable to Apes as science fiction dogma, or where science fiction got adult. I have the film and like it to a degree that it is ambiguous and thought provoking, but it is boring. If not for the going through the great beyond and its light show to wake you up., its a rather tedious excersise and highly subjective of meaning.Who knows mayby I dont get it? John m

Wait one moment.... I have to calm myself down.... OK, let's go....

 

I'M A HUGE FAN OF 2001!!!!!!    How dare you, Sir?   HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!

 

I saw it not long after POTA in 1968 when I was nine years old.  I went with just my father on a gray, drizzly Saturday afternoon to a Cinerama theatre in Hicksville Long Island, New York.  I thought the movie wonderful and it's one of my cherished childhood memories.  Ever since '68, "2001: A Space Odyssey" has been my second favorite film next to POTA and remains so.

 

Having said that, I can understand why others don't like it and find it boring, but I love it.  I've seen it so many times, though, that often when I put it on, I use it to help put me to sleep for a nice afternoon nap!

 

By the way, the Blu-ray of 2001 is probably the best classic film out there.  I only wish POTA was as good on Blu-ray as 2001 is.

 

My third favorite films these days.... "The Sand Pebbles" with Steve McQueen.  Got something negative to say about that one, John?

 

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: jamesa1102

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:10 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: I cannot understand the love of 2001

 

OK Rory take a deep breath and maybe have a cup of tea to calm down. LOL

But seriously everyone, the purpose of this group is to discuss POTA. Dicussing other films in relation to POTA is ok but lately too many threads have deviated too far from that. If you want to discuss Avatar, the films of Kevin Smith, 2001: A Space Odyssey or anything else unrelated to POTA, there are plenty of other groups and forums where you can do that.

We try not to censor anyone unless there is a blatant violation of group guidelines. However, this is the third or fourth time in recent weeks that I've had to ask the group to please stay on topic. Please don't force us to have to start rejecting posts because they are too far off topic. Thanks.

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Actually we lose more people than we pick up. People join this group because they are fans of POTA. They can go elsewhere if they want to discuss something else. Some have joined, asked a question regarding POTA and have been ignored. That puts people off.

And the problem is not any single post but the recent high number of off topic threads. One long time member recently left. When I emailed him to ask why,  he said it is because we hardly discuss POTA anymore.

Last week Rich and Hunter posted scripts for planned POTA comics that were never realized because Mavel discontinued the POTA Magazine. Yet hardly anyone commented. Again to people who have gone out of their way to contribute, it puts them off.

In the past year in this group we featured several projects including a recontruction of Escape's original pre-title sequence on the group website, the one sheet series to celebrate the anniversay of the TV series and weekly features such as a comic adaption of Boule's novel & Ape City Chronicles. All of these represent the hard work of several people who have donated their time for free. Yet while I have personally received comments from members about of these privately (both positive and negative but mostly positive), there has been silence here. I asked why they were reluctant to comment here in the group and the response was that they felt a lack of interest in the group with discussing such things.  

And let's not forget Broken Sea's Audio adaption of Beneath just began and next year a new POTA illustrated novel is being published, so it is not like that there is a lack of POTA related topics that can be discussed.

The focus of this group is POTA and nothing else. Our group guidelines, which have been in effect for over five years state this very clearly: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/PostingGuidelines.htm. I suggest that everyone read them because from this moment on they are going to be strictly enforced.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@...> wrote:
>
> I don't see the problem with this post ???
>
> You can go off topic and still have a decent discussion, lets not be so linear, you might pick up more lurkers this way.
>
> Robert Mansell
>

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:55 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

With or without the beard?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe if I'm lucky Rory can send me an EverythingLandon image.
>
> Jess.
>
>
>

Just curious Jessica, it sounds like your doing all the astronauts from the films & TV series. Are you planning on doing Stewart too?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Chris, I know it's not the news you are waiting for, but I actually poured
> Pete's mold today. Tomorrow I find out if the mold will make a good cast.
> Keep your fingers crossed that it will be good. I am raring to see him
> painted up and properly clothed.
>
> Jess.
>

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:20 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Just curious Jessica, it sounds like your doing all the astronauts from the films & TV series. Are you planning on doing Stewart too?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>

> Chris, I know it's not the news you are waiting for, but I actually poured
> Pete's mold today. Tomorrow I find out if the mold will make a good cast.
> Keep your fingers crossed that it will be good. I am raring to see him
> painted up and properly clothed.
>
> Jess.
>

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We should have a name for Stewart version 2. How about Prune Stewart?

Jess.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

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Here's help to get you started Jess!
How about an action figure of dried up Stewart!!? the prfect Christmas gift!!

Tim

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From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 11:32:41 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: 1/6 Burke & Virdon heads painted

Sure, James. Why not? The sky's the limit!! May as well, huh? I have not tried sculpting females in 1:6 scale. Someday maybe I should try Nova!

Jess.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:20 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@aol. com> wrote:

Just curious Jessica, it sounds like your doing all the astronauts from the films & TV series. Are you planning on doing Stewart too?

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
>

> Chris, I know it's not the news you are waiting for, but I actually poured
> Pete's mold today. Tomorrow I find out if the mold will make a good cast.
> Keep your fingers crossed that it will be good. I am raring to see him
> painted up and properly clothed.
>
> Jess.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

>
> We should have a name for Stewart version 2. How about Prune Stewart?

Dessicated Stewie?

Or ought that to be Jessicated? Ha! See what I did!

Jessica, I've been following your progress since you began sculpting over on the Sideshow forum and I've watched your talent grow in leaps and bounds.

My only criticism - and it's purely a selfish one - is that, as good as your sculpts are, they are, perhaps, of limited use to any of us who do not collect 1/6th scale action figures. I have Ada's Brent sculpt, all fully painted up and, it has to be said, looking a bit silly on my model shelf with nothing beneath the neck.

If you were to sculpt a variant that includes an upper chest too, making them true busts, I think you might corner a wider gap in the market. I was reading the editorial in 'Amazing Figure Modeler' and the editor states that busts have now become more popular than full-figure kits.

You could even get away with just painting them Bronze!

Amazing work, Jess, keep it up. I love seeing each new masterpiece.

Dave B

I do agree that all three had gotten a bit wonky--and to be honest, his plans for Derek Zane (going back to 1974 but deciding to return to the future...going out into space...) don't sound like they would have been my cup of tea.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "smugster2000" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Great work, Rich!
>
> It's always wonderful to see what might have been but... well... maybe the Marvel title was cancelled about the right time.
>
> I think All 3 running sagas (Terror, Chronicles and Derek Zane) had run their natural course and were headed further and further away from what made them so memorable to begin with. It would have been interesting to see more new stories, which is why 'Forbidden Zone Prime' is so intriguing.
>
> But hat's off to you for your detective work, to Hunter for hosting and of course to Doug for sharing.
>
> Dave B
>

The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: What is your favorite episode of the TV series?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Escape from Tomorrow, 5 votes, 21.74%
- The Gladiators, 2 votes, 8.70%
- The Trap , 4 votes, 17.39%
- The Good Seeds, 3 votes, 13.04%
- The Legacy, 1 votes, 4.35%
- Tomorrow's Tide , 0 votes, 0.00%
- The Surgeon, 1 votes, 4.35%
- The Deception, 6 votes, 26.09%
- The Horse Race, 0 votes, 0.00%
- The Interrogation, 0 votes, 0.00%
- The Tyrant, 0 votes, 0.00%
- The Cure, 0 votes, 0.00%
- The Liberator, 1 votes, 4.35%
- Up Above the World So High, 0 votes, 0.00%



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I've always thought of her as Martha ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> We should have a name for Stewart version 2. How about Prune Stewart?
>
> Jess.
>

Not surprizing 'The Deception' came in first. It probably was the best episode of the TV series.

'Escape from Tommorrow' is second, it is the episode that is most like the movies.

And 'The Trap' is third.

I am surprized 'The Interrogation' didn't get more votes with all the Wanda fans out there.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
> final results:
>
>
> POLL QUESTION: What is your favorite episode of the TV series?
>
> CHOICES AND RESULTS
> - Escape from Tomorrow, 5 votes, 21.74%
> - The Gladiators, 2 votes, 8.70%
> - The Trap , 4 votes, 17.39%
> - The Good Seeds, 3 votes, 13.04%
> - The Legacy, 1 votes, 4.35%
> - Tomorrow's Tide , 0 votes, 0.00%
> - The Surgeon, 1 votes, 4.35%
> - The Deception, 6 votes, 26.09%
> - The Horse Race, 0 votes, 0.00%
> - The Interrogation, 0 votes, 0.00%
> - The Tyrant, 0 votes, 0.00%
> - The Cure, 0 votes, 0.00%
> - The Liberator, 1 votes, 4.35%
> - Up Above the World So High, 0 votes, 0.00%
>
>
>
> For more information about this group, please visit
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota
>
> For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.htmlbr>>

Still sounds better than giant brains in jars!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> I do agree that all three had gotten a bit wonky--and to be honest, his plans for Derek Zane (going back to 1974 but deciding to return to the future...going out into space...) don't sound like they would have been my cup of tea.
>
>

Hey, don't dis da' brain jars, ya' mug!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Still sounds better than giant brains in jars!
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > I do agree that all three had gotten a bit wonky--and to be honest,
> his plans for Derek Zane (going back to 1974 but deciding to return to
> the future...going out into space...) don't sound like they would have
> been my cup of tea.
> >
> >
>

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Is anyone familiar with this playset? I've never seen it before.

> Is anyone familiar with this playset? I've never seen it before.

> [[SearsC1975_Page575.jpg]]

I've had that same image on my site for a few months, but I've never
seen the actual playset---just that image from the Sears book.

Hunter

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Beef Jerky Teriyaki Style!

If she doesn't come out right

you can turn her into Nova's

Bikini.  "Fry, you idiot!  I was

going to eat that mummy!"

 

 

In a message dated 12/17/2009 5:15:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

We should have a name for Stewart version 2.  How about Prune Stewart?

Jess.

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I had the one pictured - it was the deluxe set that came in a box.  There were other scaled down editions sold as well.  The coolest thing about it was a piece of plastic that was molded to look like a patch of dirt with tire tracks and had a spring loaded piece that would turn over a toy jeep when it rolled over it as if  from an explosion. - Scott --- On Sun, 12/20/09, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote: From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> Subject: [pota] Just curious To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 10:14 AM   Is anyone familiar with this playset? I've never seen it before.

Since I know not everyone is a member of the POTADG.
Thought you'd get a kick out of this. Koko the gorilla wants her Mego Planet of the Apes figures!! This is from 1976.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/Ape%20CULT/12-20-20091-48-16PM.jpg

But Penny says "not till you've cleaned your mess."

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/Ape%20CULT/12-20-20091-44-39PM.jpg

I captured these images from the dvd of the pbs Nature special the Gorilla Foundation sent me.

http://www.koko.org/index.php

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>>Is that the same issue that has the article on the TV series?

<<

>>I finally found a copy (issue 34) this past week (Barnes &

Noble is a full month behind), and I noticed in their 'Time Warp/The Year That Was...' section that they covered 1971. So not only was ESCAPE mentioned, but also great films like THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN, THE OMEGA MAN, THX 1138, and one of the best Science Fiction TV series ever: UFO. This got me to thinking that- presumably- the previous issue would cover 1970 and as such, BENEATH would be included. Does anyone here have a copy of issue 33 who could verify? <<<.html

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>>If there was a

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>>I don't think I ever said that anyone felt lied to or betrayed but

I wouldn't bet that there were absolutely no viewers who may have felt that way.

But that is a diversion from the main point anyway. Which is that FOX created the TV Movies to milk every last drop of money out of the POTA franchise. <<

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>>They don't follow a time line. They just pick good years. The next

issue has an article about POTA in the series "best Sci-Fi ever" that has included Alien, Star Wars etc <<

>>I finally found a copy (issue 34) this past week (Barnes &

Noble is a full month behind), and I noticed in their 'Time Warp/The Year That Was...' section that they covered 1971. So not only was ESCAPE mentioned, but also great films like THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN, THE OMEGA MAN, THX 1138, and one of the best Science Fiction TV series ever: UFO. This got me to thinking that- presumably- the previous issue would cover 1970 and as such, BENEATH would be included. Does anyone here have a copy of issue 33 who could verify? <<


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the TV series. A Retro-reassessment
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----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:53 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Just curious

 

> Is anyone familiar with this playset? I've never seen it before.

> [[SearsC1975_ Page575.jpg] ]

I've had that same image on my site for a few months, but I've never
seen the actual playset---just that image from the Sears book.

Hunter

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

>
> Since I know not everyone is a member of the POTADG.
> Thought you'd get a kick out of this.

Thanks, John.

Reminds me of a report I once read about a gorilla that had a TV in his/her enclosure and enjoyed watching movies that featured apes.

Dave

Yeah $10 does seem to be a high price. I can't believe the price that some of these magazines are charging these days. At least with Sci-Fi Now for $10 you know you are getting a professionally produced, quality magazine.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> I'll have to check it out, but it's hard to justify that $10 price tag
> sometimes. Admittedly, it's a very packed magazine as far as content goes
> though.
>

Not saying that is a bad thing. But when it did air on the Sci-Fi channel, I for one was glad it was the original episodes and not the cut up TV movies. Same when they released the TV series on DVD, if they had just released the TV movies I would have felt cheated and was happy that they released the series in its original episode format as they were meant to be seen.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Is that necessarily a bad thing though? If it weren't for the telemovies,
> no one would have seen the TV series (in any format) for almost 20 years
> until the Sci-Fi Channel picked it up. And although there are certainly
> some who would argue *for* that, there's a lot of fans who appreciated
> the opportunity to see them again. Remember, the 80's was the dryest
> decade for apes fans. The only significant thing that happened was the
> five films getting released in Hi-Fi on Playhouse Video. Not much to hang
> your hat on.
>
>
> Chris L.
>

And since those recording devices allow viewers to skip past commercials, how do you get advertisers to buy it?

Plus why would someone go to the trouble of recording a heavily edited version of a movie with commercial interuptions when they can see it unedited, commercial free and in HD either by recording it when it airs on cable or by buying or renting the DVD or Blu-Ray disc?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> OK, so you've mentioned *every* single demographic group except the one I
> was referring to: the people that grew up watching it. Most of whom have
> devices to record programs when they're not home.
>

Thanks Dave.

You say the pics with the Megos come from 1976 but the website makes it seem that Koko is still alive. Is it the same gorilla or is the current Koko the offspring of the one from '76?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Since I know not everyone is a member of the POTADG.
> Thought you'd get a kick out of this. Koko the gorilla wants her Mego Planet of the Apes figures!! This is from 1976.
>
> http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/Ape%20CULT/12-20-20091-48-16PM.jpg
>
> But Penny says "not till you've cleaned your mess."
>
> http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/Ape%20CULT/12-20-20091-44-39PM.jpg
>
> I captured these images from the dvd of the pbs Nature special the Gorilla Foundation sent me.
>
> http://www.koko.org/index.php
>

Was any of the POTA stuff any good? Anything interesting or new?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Yes. I picked up the last few issues that had POTA stuff as well.
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>

Are any of these sets in your collection?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> from Multiple Toymakers.....came in several different sizes
>
>
>
>

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