I think if Mel Gibson was the director of "Rise of the Apes" it would be in a lot of trouble right now. Bad publicity.

 

Mel Gibson does not own a church, he is a conservative Catholic Christian.

 

Like all of us he commits sins and being a public figure his get more publicity then yours or mine would get.

 

He is an alcoholic, apparently, and when people are drunk they say and do stupid things they would never say or do otherwise.

 

His wife and all his children are the real victims in this incident.

 

 

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek

Well, I think he's not too bad a director.  Who cares if he's a creep?  Oliver Stone is a creep.  There's lots of creeps in the business.

  I think if Mel Gibson was the director of "Rise of the Apes" it would be in a lot of trouble right now. Bad publicity.

Hey, check it out.

My favorite picture of Andy Serkis. :o)

 

Al

 

this is fun......

http://culturepoppe d.blogspot. com/2010/ 05/king-kong- is-ape-amongst- apes.html"

It's depressing these mediocre acceptable times.

- Scott B.

Let Michael Bay direct it.

So you're asking what if they do a lead up to the original film without nuclear war (I also think space flight is old-fashioned; we're not going anywhere soon, it's not the moon race any more)? That would change the whole ending of the original. Instead of it being a comment on Man's folly it would just be Taylor's bad call. I think that would disappoint, because the power of the original films is that Man destroyed Himself. A storm of meteors? Let Michael Bay direct it.

Not even that much with North Korea and Iran working on nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.  All it will take is a few years.

 

I, too, am wary of having the nuclear war concept removed from the film. If Taylor is just talking out of his ass at the end of the film, and is basically wrong in his assumption, then the power of those last few minutes is rendered moot. I'll go into this film with an open mind, especially given how much I enjoyed J.J. Abrams' Star Trek film, which was reverential to Trek canon at the same time that it dispensed with it. If a solid writer and director can do the same with POTA, I'll enjoy it--but if this is supposed to be an alternate lead-in to the first film (as Joe Jaffa has been claiming), then I don't think I like the idea of removing the nuclear war. I'll give it a shot before deciding, though.

Hi, folks,

I'm pleased to announce that my upcoming book Lexicon of the Planet of the Apes will contain exclusive entries from author Drew Gaska's first POTA novel, Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes, due out in 2011 and edited by yours truly. I've been mostly radio-silent for the past several months while completing the manuscript, which clocks in at approximately 3,000 entries and 320 pages. We're looking to release the book some time in the fall.

Thanks to this arrangement with Drew, Apes fans will be able to get a sneak preview of the novel's content several months before that book hits stores, by reading about the various characters who will appear in Conspiracy.

I promise not to reveal the novel's ending in the encyclopedia, so don't worry about massive spoilers--though if you've seen the first Apes film (and, really, I can't imagine why the heck you'd be on this group if you haven't), you can probably already figure out, at least in part, where it's headed.

Rich

Lexicon of the Planet of the Apes is a POTA encyclopedia I've written, which I hope to have out in either the fall or winter of this year. As for Conspiracy, its launched was put off by a few real-world delays, including Drew preparing a Space: 1999 license launch and the publication of his Critical Millennium comic series. But now it's back on track.

and Al-Quada all but drooling over the prospect of ANY fissionable material to make suitcase sized dirty bombs

The whole doomsday bomb scenario seems to lose a lot of steam if there was no atomic war.  And the whole man did this to himself bit falls apart if there is no nuclear holocaust either.

Hey, was Fidel Castro cast in "Rise of the Apes?"

He's giving out details on the Rise of the Apes Script.

 

Hi Apeters,

Just wanted to share my response to Brady who liked my fan fiction story 'resurrection of the planet of the apes'.

Letter from Brady:

Hi, just wanted to say I enjoyed your novel.... My imagination is in overdrive as to the implications on time that has happened from it. What do you see as the ramifications of the novel on time if you don't mind me asking? Virdon and Burke have arrived in time to see the Holocaust...or have they? With the bomb reconfigured, Taylor would only destroy New York...so would Cornelius and Zira go back in time and have Caesar? Or possibly would Galen now be the leader of the resistance? Or would time flow as originally in Taylor's timeline and a gorilla named Aldo says NO!! Just a few thoughts that might make for an interesting sequel all over the timeline in one book. Not sure how old this email account is and hope you get this.

Brady

My Response:

Hi Brady,

Herewith is a response to your letter:

Time – A Personal View.

Time in my mind is a manufactured concept created by Man to understand the universe and his place within it. It really does not exist-it never has existed-and never will. Time is a non-physical-non-spiritual conception for Man to use in his perceptions of his environs. Time has thus boundary's to help mankind make sense-of-it-all.

If we for example got rid of our watches that we wear everyday, we would not be able to know what part of the day it was time wise, we are so use to our conception of time that we can't really live without it, and thus it has become a physical entity with a life of it's own. Now if we had a Time Machine and wanted to go forward in time to say tomorrow at a particular moment in time, we would have to know the name of tomorrow, and the time-therefore hour to arrive. In order to make time travel a possibility.

Without the basic boundary's of time there would be no structure-no existence, meaning: year-month-day-hour, 2010-July-15-14.00. As you can see time has structure-a meaning, and from this developed various mathematical languages and measurements including distance, weight, and so forth.

So our Time Machine would thus be programmed for tomorrow's flight, instead of arriving in any part of tomorrow.

Time is part of Man's tool to help him understand the universe, he needs order, without it he can not comprehend his unique place in the cosmos.

Well enough said let's move on.

Resurrection of the Planet of the Apes.

Now as far as any ramifications from my novel are concerned, I had to really think my story through to make it plausible. As you know `Resurrection' is a sequel to the five POTA films, and I wanted to write something with a different angle to give the idea of developing another possible POTA TV series, instead of astronauts being stranded again in a world of apes trying to find their way back home. Thus by including Virdon and Burke I was able to give an end to the old as it were and introduce new ways of thinking via new characters for a TV Series.

But how was I to achieve a sequel knowing certain facts within the ape universe:

1] The Earth will be destroyed.
2] The Holocaust will happen.
3] Apes will rule the Earth.
4] Man will degenerate into mindless beasts.
5] The Alpha-Omega bomb will be detonated.
6] Apes can talk.
7] Mutant human telepaths exist.
8] ANSA sends ships to Alpha Centauri.

There of course maybe more, but these are the basics which I had to deal with before writing my story, and trying to develop a new angle for a TV Series. I began to look at the basics and see if I could improve on them in some way to make a sequel. Then it dawned on me. What if ANSA sent astronauts not to Alpha Centauri but into the future to stop the destruction of the Earth-that would work; and from there my story developed which included the fates of Virdon, Burke and Galen, because I wanted to give an ending the original TV Series, as we really didn't know their fates-well now we do.

So my creative juices went into overdrive, I also realized by reading other fan-fiction that the mutant human telepaths were never introduced by other writers-which I felt very strange, so I decided to add them to my story-which was logical since they were the protectors of the `Divine' bomb.

My story began to take shape. The one drawback to the story if filmed would be not having Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowall and Mark Lenard reprise their rolls (all actors sadly passed away), but with the exception of Chuck (not wanting to do sequels attitude), other actors would replace Roddy and Mark, within the story/film and thus would explain their ends as the new TV Series would not have their characters anyway.

As you have read my story Brady, you will know how things will go and end.

The whole idea of writing `Resurrection' was in the hope of adding a sequel to the five films and give a new approach to a new "proposed" TV Series, by developing new characters and adventures, with three objectives `Phases' in mind:

The Movie/Pilot would deal with `Phase 1'.

`Phase 1', is to reconfigure the Alpha-Omega `Doomsday' bomb at all costs.

The TV Series which would have a run of seven years would deal with `Phase 2' for the first four year run and `Phase 3' with the remaining three years.

`Phase 2' Gather as much information as possible about the Earth in the future, most importantly about the apes in all aspects, this includes, society, culture and religion as they become available.

Now I will reveal after all these years what is `Phase 3'.

When `Phase 2' has been completed to the satisfaction of Richards, he and Merryll will go back on the Pleiades and report back to ANSA in 1990.

According to my Timeline the Holocaust will be in the year 2006, so for the next ten years or so (from 1990 onwards) `Phase 3', will be in operation, that is to build other Icarus type shipships to transport selected members of the human race with multi-skills to go into the future, bypassing the Holocaust (which will still happen) and repopulate/re-establish and rebuild the human race in 32nd century, and to establish peaceful relations with the existing apes and if possible bring the two cultures together to live side by side, in helping one another develop a better future for all, and to this extent with the mutant human telepaths as well-good luck.

This of course is a tall order, but one has to try.

Interesting to note that perhaps this may have happened already in the past, but it failed for some reason your other. Evidence for this, is when Virdon and Burke view Farrow's book by looking at New York City in 2503. Could this have been a second colony established by humans, in an attempt to reborn the earth? Or was it decided since the bomb was no longer a threat go further back/forward in time to 26th not the 32nd century to begin again a human colony?

Thus the human race have tried to re-establish itself once again, and/but failed?

I won't go any further, but I will let someone else explore the idea.

Now Brady to your other questions:

With New York destroyed by Taylor in a 25 mile radius, would Cornelius, Zira and Milo still go back in time, and would Milo/Caesar still be born back in 1973?

The answer is a simple, yes-one must remain faithful to the movie series outcome.

Would Virdon and Burke have arrived in time to see the Holocaust?

Again the answer is Yes, as they and Galen would arrive back in 1990.

Interesting to note that if Roddy had not passed away, his reprise as Galen would be given in the new TV Series, and thus his appearances in the TV movies would make a lot of sense.

Would Galen being returned into the past, would he become a leader of the resistance?

The answer to that is, No, why? Knowing about `Phase 3' ANSA would debrief Virdon and Burke when they returned home, and they would help ANSA officials gather more Intel about ape culture. To this end Galen would be treated in kindness and would also be asked for information about his kind-apes, into hope of a better future.

It would even be conceivable that Virdon, Burke and Galen could return to the future to help re-establish the new human colony. How wild is that. With Virdon's family in tow of course and with Galen as an emissary/ambassador between the humans and the apes.

All in all with the earth now destined not to be destroyed by the bomb, a whole new timeline would be created, from 32nd century onwards. A whole new era of co-operation and existence between human and ape established, the mind boggles at the thought, could man and ape finally be at peace with one another?

Only time will tell (manufactured that is).

All the best Brady.

Peter.

PS: I have attached my other two fan fiction stories for you to read, and the House of Mendez, Character Bio's, my Timeline and POTA Geologic Table. Enjoy.

Yes, Caesar really should kill me first. That would be wise.

 

 http://www.chud. com/articles/ articles/ 22943/1/EXCLUSIV E-HUGE-PLANET- OF-THE-APES- PREQUEL-STORY- DETAILS/Page1..html"

Hi,

 

Does anyone agree that this film should be titled "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" to keep with tradition?

 

Fran

Hi,

 

Does anyone agree that this film should be titled "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" to keep with tradition?

 

Fran

Fox said the title "Rise of the Apes" is tentative. So there's a chance the more commercial POTA name could be used. After all, they're not rebooting this for their health. When Al gets a sizeable check for his domain name, then we'll know.

Here's a little review of the new "King Kong 360" ride (with video) at Universal Studios in California. It replaces the famous mechanical Kong that got ruined during the '08 studio fire. I guess this is the future, even our rides are CG now. But it's made by the same people now doing the apes who will rise. I think their work is superb.

 

 http://latimesblogs .latimes. com/herocomplex/ 2010/07/king- kong-360- 3-d-review..html"

actually I would prefer they don't use "Planet of the Apes"....if they want to reboot, let them start their own story and own legacy. I am sticking with this not being an "official" Planet of the Apes film......
maybe I'll change my mind once I see it......

Tim