OK, so there's a new "Apes" movie coming in about 4 months. Based on what I've heard I think I will like it. Yeah, yeah, it's Fox. Yeah, yeah, it's CG. A CG POTA is like landing men on the moon. It's unnatural. They do that and God will send a plague of locusts to that studio. Right, Bernice?
Obviously I can't vouch for the movie yet. Probably at this point even the director doesn't know for sure what the final version will be like. But I have a good feeling based on the people involved, based on what I've heard so far and based on the outcry that accompanied the last one.
But even if it is a good movie, that doesn't mean it will please all POTA fundamentalists, especially those that weren't into "Escape". Because that's what it will probably be like. A chamber drama on the Planet of the Humans. And that's pretty risky. No apes with guns or clothes, no "conquest". But if things go right maybe a look into the human condition like we enjoyed in the originals. Is that enough?

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:20 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

Full sized or miniature?

In a message dated 3/27/2011 6:22:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Guys guess what? I'm so freaking excited...I'm going to sculpt my own Ursus helmet.

Jess.

Over the next 4 days, the National Association of Theater Owners (NATO) will gather in Vegas and be treated to snacks and hype. It's Cinemacon, formerly known as Showest, and we may get a "Rise of the Apes" poster image or description of a trailer out of it. After all, it's coming out in 4 months.
NATO is also part of POTA history, since Arthur Jacobs did special compilations of footage for "Planet" and "Beneath" for them, including stuff that wound up not being in the movies. I believe the "Planet" one is on the DVD, maybe the blu-ray as well.

http://collider.com/cinemacon-2011-posters-standees-images/82746/

Good luck, Jess!


From: jessica rotich
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:15 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Ursus helmet




Full sized! I've got a life-sized male mannequin bust that I'll sculpt it on. So---if anybody's got any hidden photos of the Ursus/Urko helmet, please send it to me privately and I promise I won't share the photos...they will only be for my reference. I want a screen accurate one. I'm going to sculpt it, make a mold and cast it in resin--line it and cover it up with gun metal leather.

Jess.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> But even if it is a good movie, that doesn't mean it will please all POTA fundamentalists, especially those that weren't into "Escape". Because that's what it will probably be like. A chamber drama on the Planet of the Humans. And that's pretty risky. No apes with guns or clothes, no "conquest". But if things go right maybe a look into the human condition like we enjoyed in the originals. Is that enough?
>

I have to admit that Escape is my favourite of the sequels, so would be content if Rise aped it to some degree (sorry for the pun, our simian overlords). I know it comes with the going back in time thing that I tend to dislike (no problem with the "going forward in time", because it's not really going forward in a time travel sense in Apes), I know it does delve into the whimsical now and then, and that the gorilla in the cage does stink it up a bit, but I still like the overall nature of the story, the further development of the characters, the change from fun to tragedy, and the showing that not everyone is black-and-white in nature (even Hasslein has his virtues). It also holds a place in my heart of being the first film that I got to see in the cinema without the need for an adult to accompany me. So, if Rise was anything like Escape, this fan would be good with it.

Despite my cynicism, I do hope that Rise actually shows that you can create a solid film that'll be a worthy sequel/reboot/re-imagining/retelling/whatever. It doesn't have to be an action movie, in fact I'd prefer it not to go too far down that route, if at all. I'd rather it delves into the nature and weaknesses of man, the exploration of non-human sapience and its evolution, the struggle between the sapient species, any similarities and empathy between the species, the nature of injustice and compassion, etc. However, I tend to think it's more likely that the film will pander to action than go too deep into the philosophical nature of such things. Still, I hope my cynicism is mistaken.


Graham F

Dario Sciola sent me a high-resolution GO APE! poster created for an
upcoming Ottawa Ape-o-thon. You can download the image, which is suitable
for printing as a poster, if you can find a printer to do so.

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

 POA original black/white art for sale, from POA #27 pg 6, by Herb Trimbe.  http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=543687&GSub=88756 It's being auctioned via Heritage Comics of TX sometime in April for me, since i'm a member of our yahoo groups, i wanted to give advance notice to here to fellow POA collectors. They havent set a date yet, but here's a link to their website: www.heritagecomics.com      

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The image is from a calendar Fox was giving out at Cinemacon. So I was right, admit it! Maybe there will be more stuff before it ends on Thursday.
First thought is it looks very similar to the classic ape makeup so maybe they're meeting us halfway.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/cinemaconnews.php?id=75660

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:

>
> http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Cinema-Con-First-Look-At-Caesar-In-Rise-Of-The-Apes-23917.html"
>

Looks interesting. They've gone with human eyes rather than chimpanzee ones (large amount of sclera and the eye shape). Explainable due to genetic manipulation I suppose. No problem with that and actually am glad. It also helps us mere humans better understand the emotions and glances of the ape, etc, and such eyes further encourage empathy.


Graham F

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
>
>
>
> http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Cinema-Con-First-Look-At-Caesar-In-Rise-Of-The-Apes-23917.html"
>
> Can someone please tell Fox to stop coping my ideas!
> This looks just like the top header of my once POTA Ceasar countdown site. ;o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
> My first complaint about this movie is..... They go to all the expense of CGI to create a "photo-realistic ape," then they give him human eyes! Not very realistic.
>

I don't have a problem if it can be explained due to genetic manipulation. I suppose they could have waited for any sequel and further genetic change before they went with such eyes, though, but I'm OK with it. I suppose they wanted to increase the empathy and communication that human eyes can attract.


Graham F

They say first impressions count and my first impression of this image is that it is wonderful.It does, as Jeff says, bridge the gap between classic make-up and CGI and speaks to my inner Ape.I'm instantly at peace with the CGI move now---can't wait to see more! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The image is from a calendar Fox was giving out at Cinemacon. So I was right, admit it! Maybe there will be more stuff before it ends on Thursday.
> First thought is it looks very similar to the classic ape makeup so maybe they're meeting us halfway.
>
> http://www.comingsoon.net/news/cinemaconnews.php?id=75660
>

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WoW!

 

That's probably tougher then shoes!

 

Good Luck!

 

 

In a message dated 3/27/2011 9:55:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Full sized!  I've got a life-sized male mannequin bust that I'll sculpt it on.  So---if anybody's got any hidden photos of the Ursus/Urko helmet, please send it to me privately and I promise I won't share the photos...they will only be for my reference.  I want a screen accurate one.  I'm going to sculpt it, make a mold and cast it in resin--line it and cover it up with gun metal leather. 

 

Jess.

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Wow--Soylent green is one of my favorite films. Haven't seen it in years. I would love to see that on BluRay.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

Just so it doesn't go unnoticed here, with all the hubbub over THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, there are two other Charlton Heston movies coming out on DVD and Blu-ray today. One is ANTONY AND CLEOPATRA, which I've never seen, and the other is this:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews53/soylent_green_blu-ray.htm

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That is the ugliest looking thing I've ever seen. It confirms my worst fears about CGI. So completely phony and unnecessary. John Chambers is rolling over in his grave. Fox has Killed Ape. Fox has Killed Ape....

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Cinema-Con-First-Look-At-Caesar-In-Rise-Of-The-Apes-23917.html"
>
> Can someone please tell Fox to stop coping my ideas!
> This looks just like the top header of my once POTA Ceasar countdown site. ;o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
> My first complaint about this movie is..... They go to all the expense of CGI to create a "photo-realistic ape," then they give him human eyes! Not very realistic.
>

That's what I was thinking ....why didnt they just put serkis in makeup insead of creating digital human eyes....
Sheesh


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2011, at 8:47 AM, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

> That was the idea behind Chambers' makeup. First they went more ape-like but then went more human so we could identify. Though this looks like it might as well be makeup.
>

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Rob R

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:08:12 -0700
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:

>
> That's what I was thinking ....why didnt they just put serkis in makeup insead of creating digital human eyes....
> Sheesh

Well, despite the eyes, there is the problem with the differing proportions between a chimpanzee body and that of a human. If you're going to have a body that's similar to a chimpanzee, then it's a bit of an issue to have an actor in a suit, because of the proportions difference. CGI would help on that score, as loath as I'm to admit that (I really want actors in make-up, but understand that sometimes CGI might be easier and better under certain circumstances). Still, the eyes being very humanistic does make one wonder how human the rest of the ape is going to be, considering that there's been some genetic manipulation that seems to have created humanistic eyes. I mean, surely there can't be too many changes in the first film, seeing that this is the start of the story, and any changes towards a more humanoid look will come later, it at all.


Graham F

Hi folks,

Daryl Gregory here. Just popping in here to (a) make sure I can post and (b) say that I'm looking forward to talking to y'all tomorrow.

Ciao,

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Another Friday, another war in the Middle East, another nuclear reactor
> melting down in Japan and another installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY.
> To view the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home
> page or use this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm> .
>
> Also, next Wednesday at 4-5PM EST Daryl Gregory, author of the new POTA
> comic from Boom! Studios, will be on the group to answer your questions
> about the comic.
>
> He'll only be here for one hour so be sure to be here too. Anyone who
> can't please submit your questions to me in advance and I'll ask them
> for you. But for those who can, just post as you normally do with
> "Question for Daryl Gregory" in the subject line.
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Internal Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original
> POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more. * Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> � Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. * Cornelius' Journal
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> - The First
> 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated
> Monkey Planet <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm>
> - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. *
> POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
> contributed by members.
>

Hi, folks. I interviewed Daryl Gregory about his plans for the upcoming comic series. Enjoy!

http://www.hassleinbooks.com/planet-of-the-apes-boom-studios-daryl-gregory-interview.html"

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    Hey Jess,

 

Is that one from Apemania, or one of yours?

 

T

 

 

In a message dated 3/29/2011 3:16:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

 

Currently making preparations for Wondercon...it's a big project.  Hopefully everything will look great by that time.  I'm getting nervous.

 

Jess.

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it's mine.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

Hey Jess,

Is that one from Apemania, or one of yours?

T

In a message dated 3/29/2011 3:16:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Currently making preparations for Wondercon...it's a big project. Hopefully everything will look great by that time. I'm getting nervous.

Jess.

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Sorry about the other photo I sent earlier. Too bad there's no way to unsend!

The green is the clay sculpt that I made a mold of. The brown one is
Apemania's Zira.

Jess.

Really interesting read, Rich.I'm glad Daryl's read the Marvel material.I'd like to issue a small rallying cry to Apedom.Buy this new comic from BOOM! Studios.Buy it regularly and get your comicbook shop to stock it.Comics sales have declined by over 20% in the past year and it's a tough, tough marketplace out there.A successful Apes comic will be noticed and will help promote interest and other products.Let's get behind the new comic and ensure that we have a continuing Apes saga to enjoy over the coming years.$3.99 is not a lot to support the Ape Cause.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, folks. I interviewed Daryl Gregory about his plans for the upcoming comic series. Enjoy!
>
> http://www.hassleinbooks.com/planet-of-the-apes-boom-studios-daryl-gregory-interview.html"
>

Is there any resource that will show what the actual ratings of the Apes tv series were? John, Scrolls.

Well I went and had myself a look and was a little concerned that the CGI Caesar kind of looks exactly how I expected him to! (what little I can see of him) I'm not saying he looks bad, quite the opposite, I think he looks bloody good - it's just that I felt no surprise or 'Gosh, wow! They really knocked that one out of the park!'

I just hope the movie doesn't follow suit and is exactly what I expect it it to be. I'm predicting an entertaining couple of hours in the cinema that will be all but forgotten about come the next morning. Which, I have to admit, is better that a mind numbing couple of hours that haunt me still... Yes, I'm talking Burton.

Dave

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T, this one is mine and it's making me nervous. I wonder if I've made it too small...the Apemania one looked so big in comparison, when I was sculpting it...and the edges are not so very thin with this one but I suppose I will just have to make it work.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:20 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

it's mine.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

Hey Jess,

Is that one from Apemania, or one of yours?

T

In a message dated 3/29/2011 3:16:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Currently making preparations for Wondercon...it's a big project. Hopefully everything will look great by that time. I'm getting nervous.

Jess.

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That was the idea behind Chambers' makeup. First they went more ape-like but then went more human so we could identify. Though this looks like it might as well be makeup.

I remember that Rick Baker said once (or maybe several times) that he was thinking of retiring just before POTA2001, because CGI was making his creative makeup thing obsolete.  Well, it's been a decade since then, and while prosthetics aren't quite obsolete -- they might as well be.

 

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Just a reminder, the Q&A will take place from 4 to 5 PM Eastern time. All members are invited to participate. Just post to the group the way you normally would. Please remember to put "Question for Daryl Gregory" in the subject heading.

Also, for anyone who can't be online during the Q&A, just send me any questions you have and I'll ask them for you.

In the meantime be sure to check out Rich Handley's excellent interview of Mr. Gregory at: http://www.hassleinbooks.com/planet-of-the-apes-boom-studios-daryl-gregory-interview.html/font>

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

Using the article as a barometerer, the comic might have a "Marvel" storyline to it but the artwork reminds me of Malibu. It sounds like a fun read. Thx for posting the link!

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

I think they are trying pretty hard to get the original "Ape" fans to like it, from names to certain dialogue (from the script I read) to the ape look. Maybe they are trying too hard but we'll see. Just as with the new "Star Trek", lots of references.
Obviously there's not much to go on yet. What I'm worried about is making Caesar's evolution believable. He seems to evolve over the course of the film (though it takes years). It should take more time to evolve like that but it could work depending on how believable Franco and his science is.


From: dave
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:49 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: First Look at Caesar!



Well I went and had myself a look and was a little concerned that the CGI Caesar kind of looks exactly how I expected him to! (what little I can see of him) I'm not saying he looks bad, quite the opposite, I think he looks bloody good - it's just that I felt no surprise or 'Gosh, wow! They really knocked that one out of the park!'

I just hope the movie doesn't follow suit and is exactly what I expect it it to be. I'm predicting an entertaining couple of hours in the cinema that will be all but forgotten about come the next morning. Which, I have to admit, is better that a mind numbing couple of hours that haunt me still... Yes, I'm talking Burton.

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:

Rory....you just gave me a heart attack. Next thing you know, you'll be a true comic geek. Haha :)

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From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 10:26:48 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Interview With BOOM! Comics Author Daryl Gregory

A successful Apes comic will be noticed and will help promote interest and other products.Let's get behind the new comic and ensure that we have a continuing Apes saga to enjoy over the coming years.$3.99 is not a lot to support the Ape Cause.John, Scrolls.

I might even buy them --- just for the "cause," of course. Upward and apeward.

-- Rory

Looks horrible imo.They should have made the nose more like Caesar and the other chimps form the 70's.
I can see a regular looking ape anywhere, original Planet of the Apes had it's own original look and should be captured for any POTA film.They are missing the point as usual.
Sucks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I think they are trying pretty hard to get the original "Ape" fans to like it, from names to certain dialogue (from the script I read) to the ape look. Maybe they are trying too hard but we'll see. Just as with the new "Star Trek", lots of references.
> Obviously there's not much to go on yet. What I'm worried about is making Caesar's evolution believable. He seems to evolve over the course of the film (though it takes years). It should take more time to evolve like that but it could work depending on how believable Franco and his science is.
>
>
> From: dave
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:49 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: First Look at Caesar!
>
>
>
> Well I went and had myself a look and was a little concerned that the CGI Caesar kind of looks exactly how I expected him to! (what little I can see of him) I'm not saying he looks bad, quite the opposite, I think he looks bloody good - it's just that I felt no surprise or 'Gosh, wow! They really knocked that one out of the park!'
>
> I just hope the movie doesn't follow suit and is exactly what I expect it it to be. I'm predicting an entertaining couple of hours in the cinema that will be all but forgotten about come the next morning. Which, I have to admit, is better that a mind numbing couple of hours that haunt me still... Yes, I'm talking Burton.
>
> Dave
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@...> wrote:

>
> Looks horrible imo.They should have made the nose more like Caesar and the other chimps form the 70's.
> I can see a regular looking ape anywhere, original Planet of the Apes had it's own original look and should be captured for any POTA film.They are missing the point as usual.
> Sucks.

Maybe it'll evolve into that look or something approximating it over time. It'd be a bit odd for an ape to change that quick in one leap. Actually, I don't mind the more ape-looking nose at all.

Heh, I've been a bit sceptical about the coming film, so it's a bit odd that I'm sort of backing it.


Graham F

First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking the time to answer our questions.

I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA comic in the first place?

Welcome as well Daryl from West Texas! Was wanting to know how far reaching your goal is as far as linking up with the original POTA, or will BOOM POTA stay set more or less in the current planned timeframe <mentioned in the press releases). And thank you or bringing POTA to comics again!

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking the time to answer our questions.

I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA comic in the first place?

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

Hi James, and hi everybody. Thanks for having me on.

As for why BOOM! (I'm legally obligated to capitalize and punctuate it each time) decided to do an apes book now, I'm sure it had something to do with Rise of the Apes, and the fact that interest was growing.

I'll keep my answers short at first, so this looks like chat.

Next question!

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking the
> time to answer our questions.
>
> I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA
> comic in the first place?
>

Hey Bill. Howdy from central PA, land of the Amish, bears, and Amish bears.

Current plans are to stick to the time period of the Lawgiver. We'd like to introduce a set of characters that people care about, then tell their stories. But the apes universe being what it is -- time is a slippery thing -- who knows where we'd go after the first year.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> *Welcome as well Daryl from West Texas! Was wanting to know how far reaching
> your goal is as far as linking up with the original POTA, or will BOOM
> POTA stay set more or less in the current planned timeframe <mentioned in
> the press releases). And thank you or bringing POTA to comics again!*
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > *First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking the
> > time to answer our questions. *
> >
> > *I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA
> > comic in the first place? *
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> http://brokensea.com/ <http://www.brokensea.net/>
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
> http://brokensea.com/pota/
> http://brokensea.com/bpota/ <http://www.brokensea.com/>
> and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio
> OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/
>

OK Here's one submitted by one of our members who couldn't be online right now:

A lot of the preliminary writeups/promotion for the new comics say:

"They're tying the new title into the continuity of the five classic films"...

If this is so, how come most of the covers we've seen so far are illustrated with apes dressed in clothing that's anything but tied in with the look/style of the original films?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> Hi James, and hi everybody. Thanks for having me on.
>
> As for why BOOM! (I'm legally obligated to capitalize and punctuate it each time) decided to do an apes book now, I'm sure it had something to do with Rise of the Apes, and the fact that interest was growing.
>
> I'll keep my answers short at first, so this looks like chat.
>
> Next question!
>
> --d
>

I think when you see the issues in April, you'll see more of the ape dress that you saw in the movies, especially in regard to the Lawgiver.

But we're also setting this in a time period that's never been seen before. So while you'll see some styles that look like ape clothing from the the 3900's, there are obviously going to be styles that are different in 2680. It's a balancing act, to be sure.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> OK Here's one submitted by one of our members who couldn't be online
> right now:
>
> A lot of the preliminary writeups/promotion for the new comics say:
>
> "They're tying the new title into the continuity of the five classic
> films"...
>
> If this is so, how come most of the covers we've seen so far are
> illustrated with apes dressed in clothing that's anything but tied in
> with the look/style of the original films?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi James, and hi everybody. Thanks for having me on.
> >
> > As for why BOOM! (I'm legally obligated to capitalize and punctuate it
> each time) decided to do an apes book now, I'm sure it had something to
> do with Rise of the Apes, and the fact that interest was growing.
> >
> > I'll keep my answers short at first, so this looks like chat.
> >
> > Next question!
> >
> > --d
> >
>

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:11 PM, d_gregory_1 <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:

Hey Bill. Howdy from central PA, land of the Amish, bears, and Amish bears.

Current plans are to stick to the time period of the Lawgiver. We'd like to introduce a set of characters that people care about, then tell their stories. But the apes universe being what it is -- time is a slippery thing -- who knows where we'd go after the first year.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> *Welcome as well Daryl from West Texas! Was wanting to know how far reaching

> your goal is as far as linking up with the original POTA, or will BOOM
> POTA stay set more or less in the current planned timeframe <mentioned in
> the press releases). And thank you or bringing POTA to comics again!*
>

> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > *First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking the
> > time to answer our questions. *
> >
> > *I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA

> > comic in the first place? *

> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!

> http://brokensea.com/ <http://www.brokensea.net/>

> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
> http://brokensea.com/pota/

> http://brokensea.com/bpota/ <http://www.brokensea.com/>

> and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio
> OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/
>

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

Hi, Daryl! Long time, no speak. :)

Here's one I meant to ask you earlier, but forgot to mention: What can you tell us about how you plan to characterize the Lawgiver--what kind of ape is he, and what's your perception of his attitude toward humans? Oh, and what's his name? (I doubt his parents named him Lawgiver, after all.)

We're actually going a bit further afield. Ape City and the Forbidden Zone will be part of the story, but they won't be central locations at first. We've created a new, sprawling city called Mak. If Ape City is New York, then this is Chicago.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> FANTASTIC! <Go Steelers- yes holding down the Steeler fort here in West
> Texas-LOL>
> Without giving anything away- will it stay within the congines of Central
> City and the FZ- or travel farther out into the desolation of the world?
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:11 PM, d_gregory_1 <daryl.gregory@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hey Bill. Howdy from central PA, land of the Amish, bears, and Amish bears.
> >
> >
> > Current plans are to stick to the time period of the Lawgiver. We'd like to
> > introduce a set of characters that people care about, then tell their
> > stories. But the apes universe being what it is -- time is a slippery thing
> > -- who knows where we'd go after the first year.
> >
> > --d
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > *Welcome as well Daryl from West Texas! Was wanting to know how far
> > reaching
> >
> > > your goal is as far as linking up with the original POTA, or will BOOM
> > > POTA stay set more or less in the current planned timeframe <mentioned in
> > > the press releases). And thank you or bringing POTA to comics again!*
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking
> > the
> > > > time to answer our questions. *
> > > >
> > > > *I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA
> > > > comic in the first place? *
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Hollweg
> > > Have Sword...
> > > Will Slay...
> > > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > > Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> > > Bill Hollweg
> > > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > > And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> > > http://brokensea.com/ <http://www.brokensea.net/>
> >
> > > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > > http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
> > > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> > > Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
> > > http://brokensea.com/pota/
> > > http://brokensea.com/bpota/ <http://www.brokensea.com/>
> >
> > > and
> > > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> > > http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
> > > CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> > >
> > http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio
> > > OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> http://brokensea.com/ <http://www.brokensea.net/>
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
> http://brokensea.com/pota/
> http://brokensea.com/bpota/ <http://www.brokensea.com/>
> and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio
> OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/
>

As a follow up to that:

If they're taking such drastic changes with their clothing, I can only guess the content will be equally different. If such major changes are being done, wouldn't they have been better off saying it's all new (i.e. "new story", "new look")? To make such big alterations and yet say it's "in the continuity of the originals" probably isn't going to sit well with a lot of people, so why call it what it doesn't appear to be?

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
>
> I think when you see the issues in April, you'll see more of the ape dress that you saw in the movies, especially in regard to the Lawgiver.
>
> But we're also setting this in a time period that's never been seen before. So while you'll see some styles that look like ape clothing from the the 3900's, there are obviously going to be styles that are different in 2680. It's a balancing act, to be sure.
>
> --d
>

Very cool!!!!!!!!!

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM, d_gregory_1 <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:

We're actually going a bit further afield. Ape City and the Forbidden Zone will be part of the story, but they won't be central locations at first. We've created a new, sprawling city called Mak. If Ape City is New York, then this is Chicago.

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

Hiya, Rich,

Well, at least two characters call him "Grandfather"! As for his name, I'm not telling. Maybe because I haven't decided on it yet. I have a name in the series bible I'm creating to keep track of everything, but I'm not in love with it. Since I didn't need it in issue #1, so I decided to wait for a name I really like.

As for characterization, I'm going with John Huston as my guide, and he's definitely the character we met at the end of BATTLE. He believes in equality between apes and humans.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Daryl! Long time, no speak. :)
>
> Here's one I meant to ask you earlier, but forgot to mention: What can you tell us about how you plan to characterize the Lawgiver--what kind of ape is he, and what's your perception of his attitude toward humans? Oh, and what's his name? (I doubt his parents named him Lawgiver, after all.)
>

hi daryl

does the comic tie into the new movie?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> Hi James, and hi everybody. Thanks for having me on.
>
> As for why BOOM! (I'm legally obligated to capitalize and punctuate it each time) decided to do an apes book now, I'm sure it had something to do with Rise of the Apes, and the fact that interest was growing.
>
> I'll keep my answers short at first, so this looks like chat.
>
> Next question!
>
> --d
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking the
> > time to answer our questions.
> >
> > I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA
> > comic in the first place?
> >
>

We're steering clear of the new movie. This series works with the mythos from the first five films, and doesn't try to tie in with either the Burton film or Rise of the Apes.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jedimasteryoda1138" <Yoda_75@...> wrote:
>
> hi daryl
>
> does the comic tie into the new movie?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi James, and hi everybody. Thanks for having me on.
> >
> > As for why BOOM! (I'm legally obligated to capitalize and punctuate it each time) decided to do an apes book now, I'm sure it had something to do with Rise of the Apes, and the fact that interest was growing.
> >
> > I'll keep my answers short at first, so this looks like chat.
> >
> > Next question!
> >
> > --d
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking the
> > > time to answer our questions.
> > >
> > > I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a POTA
> > > comic in the first place?
> > >
> >
>

Here's another from a member who couldn't be online:

There's an artist named Neil Foster whose work is highly acclaimed by fans...

He's even had artwork published in MR Comics "REVOLUTION/POTA issue # 6 in the "Letters to the Editor" section...  Would you consider using him in any future projects?"

 

Thanks, Daryl. I'm very much looking forward to this--especially given the intriguing revelation that it doesn't take place in Ape City. That's a good way to get around any societal or aesthetic divergences from what we've seen on screen. As for the Lawgiver's name, I recommend "Handley." It's a solid simian name.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya, Rich,
>
> Well, at least two characters call him "Grandfather"! As for his name, I'm not telling. Maybe because I haven't decided on it yet. I have a name in the series bible I'm creating to keep track of everything, but I'm not in love with it. Since I didn't need it in issue #1, so I decided to wait for a name I really like.
>
> As for characterization, I'm going with John Huston as my guide, and he's definitely the character we met at the end of BATTLE. He believes in equality between apes and humans.
>
> --d
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Daryl! Long time, no speak. :)
> >
> > Here's one I meant to ask you earlier, but forgot to mention: What can you tell us about how you plan to characterize the Lawgiver--what kind of ape is he, and what's your perception of his attitude toward humans? Oh, and what's his name? (I doubt his parents named him Lawgiver, after all.)
> >
>

Well, it is going to be a new story, obviously, since it's not an adaptation of an existing movie -- but what we're trying to make clear is that it's also going to be in the classic continuity, meaning, not related to the Burton film or the new reboot. We're taking all the facts of the films as canon, and going from there.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> As a follow up to that:
>
> If they're taking such drastic changes with their clothing, I can only
> guess the content will be equally different. If such major changes are
> being done, wouldn't they have been better off saying it's all new (i.e.
> "new story", "new look")? To make such big alterations and yet say it's
> "in the continuity of the originals" probably isn't going to sit well
> with a lot of people, so why call it what it doesn't appear to be?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think when you see the issues in April, you'll see more of the ape
> dress that you saw in the movies, especially in regard to the Lawgiver.
> >
> > But we're also setting this in a time period that's never been seen
> before. So while you'll see some styles that look like ape clothing from
> the the 3900's, there are obviously going to be styles that are
> different in 2680. It's a balancing act, to be sure.
> >
> > --d
> >
>

It's not up to me -- and for good reason! I'm just a writer, and the whole artist side of the business is a mystery to me. We'd probably have to get an artist in here to talk about how to break into comics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Here's another from a member who couldn't be online:
>
> There's an artist named Neil Foster whose work is highly acclaimed by
> fans...
>
> He's even had artwork published in MR Comics "REVOLUTION/POTA issue # 6
> in the "Letters to the Editor" section... Would you consider using him
> in any future projects?"
>

> As for the Lawgiver's name, I recommend "Handley." It's a solid
> simian name.

Ha!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Daryl. I'm very much looking forward to this--especially given the intriguing revelation that it doesn't take place in Ape City. That's a good way to get around any societal or aesthetic divergences from what we've seen on screen. As for the Lawgiver's name, I recommend "Handley." It's a solid simian name.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > Hiya, Rich,
> >
> > Well, at least two characters call him "Grandfather"! As for his name, I'm not telling. Maybe because I haven't decided on it yet. I have a name in the series bible I'm creating to keep track of everything, but I'm not in love with it. Since I didn't need it in issue #1, so I decided to wait for a name I really like.
> >
> > As for characterization, I'm going with John Huston as my guide, and he's definitely the character we met at the end of BATTLE. He believes in equality between apes and humans.
> >
> > --d
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Daryl! Long time, no speak. :)
> > >
> > > Here's one I meant to ask you earlier, but forgot to mention: What can you tell us about how you plan to characterize the Lawgiver--what kind of ape is he, and what's your perception of his attitude toward humans? Oh, and what's his name? (I doubt his parents named him Lawgiver, after all.)
> > >
> >
>

I'm going to ask a follow up on this. In terms of how involved is FOX. Is there anything that you've wanted to do that they rejected? Are there any standard requirements from them?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> Well, it is going to be a new story, obviously, since it's not an adaptation of an existing movie -- but what we're trying to make clear is that it's also going to be in the classic continuity, meaning, not related to the Burton film or the new reboot. We're taking all the facts of the films as canon, and going from there.
>
>
>

The folks at BOOM! shield me from all of that stuff, mercifully. Or maybe they're shielding Fox from ME. All I know is that Fox approved the storyline I pitched to the editors, so I'm happy. So far I haven't seemed to have crossed over into any Forbidden Zone.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm going to ask a follow up on this. In terms of how involved is FOX.
> Is there anything that you've wanted to do that they rejected? Are there
> any standard requirements from them?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, it is going to be a new story, obviously, since it's not an
> adaptation of an existing movie -- but what we're trying to make clear
> is that it's also going to be in the classic continuity, meaning, not
> related to the Burton film or the new reboot. We're taking all the facts
> of the films as canon, and going from there.
> >
> >
> >
>

And as a follow up to that:

There are some good "fan-fics" out there: Would you ever consider using any of those as the basis for any future issues or are you only using "in-house" writers/stories?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> It's not up to me -- and for good reason! I'm just a writer, and the whole artist side of the business is a mystery to me. We'd probably have to get an artist in here to talk about how to break into comics.
>

Mr. Gregory, I read your interview with Rich Handly, why are you
ignoring excellent comics like Revolution and Terror?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> Hi James, and hi everybody. Thanks for having me on.
>
> As for why BOOM! (I'm legally obligated to capitalize and punctuate it
each time) decided to do an apes book now, I'm sure it had something to
do with Rise of the Apes, and the fact that interest was growing.
>
> I'll keep my answers short at first, so this looks like chat.
>
> Next question!
>
> --d
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" JamesA1102@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking
the
> > time to answer our questions.
> >
> > I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a
POTA
> > comic in the first place?
> >
>

Hey, are you trying to take food out of my mouth? I'm trying to stay employed, here!

(In case it's not coming across in email, I'm joking. Please insert smiley face.)

I'm avoiding reading any fan-fic, because I don't want to consciously or unconsciously use some other writer's ideas. Making it up is the fun part of my job. The non-fun part? Getting interlopers to vacate my favorite table at Starbucks.

However, I _feel_ like I'm writing fan-fic, because it's fiction, and I'm a fan. I'm having a great time.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> And as a follow up to that:
>
> There are some good "fan-fics" out there: Would you ever consider using
> any of those as the basis for any future issues or are you only using
> "in-house" writers/stories?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > It's not up to me -- and for good reason! I'm just a writer, and the
> whole artist side of the business is a mystery to me. We'd probably have
> to get an artist in here to talk about how to break into comics.
> >
>

As a fan, what has been your inspiration?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, are you trying to take food out of my mouth? I'm trying to stay employed, here!
>
> (In case it's not coming across in email, I'm joking. Please insert smiley face.)
>
> I'm avoiding reading any fan-fic, because I don't want to consciously or unconsciously use some other writer's ideas. Making it up is the fun part of my job. The non-fun part? Getting interlopers to vacate my favorite table at Starbucks.
>
> However, I _feel_ like I'm writing fan-fic, because it's fiction, and I'm a fan. I'm having a great time.
>
> --d
>
>

Please, call me Daryl.

I'm avoiding those comics _because_ they're excellent! At least, that's what I have to assume. If they're great, then I don't want their fabulous ideas to creep into my stories, or worse, drive me to despair that I'll ever come up with something that good.

Well, that's a half-joking answer. The serious answer is that at some point I would like to go read them. But when I was creating the storyline for this series, I decided to concentrate on just the five movies, and re-imagine from there. The best way to do that, I thought, was to immerse myself in those movies, and nothing but.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "colgtaylor" <ColGTaylor@...> wrote:
>
> Mr. Gregory, I read your interview with Rich Handly, why are you
> ignoring excellent comics like Revolution and Terror?
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi James, and hi everybody. Thanks for having me on.
> >
> > As for why BOOM! (I'm legally obligated to capitalize and punctuate it
> each time) decided to do an apes book now, I'm sure it had something to
> do with Rise of the Apes, and the fact that interest was growing.
> >
> > I'll keep my answers short at first, so this looks like chat.
> >
> > Next question!
> >
> > --d
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" JamesA1102@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > First I want to welcome Daryl to the group and thank him for taking
> the
> > > time to answer our questions.
> > >
> > > I'll start the ball rolling and ask: What made Boom! want to do a
> POTA
> > > comic in the first place?
> > >
> >
>

Since it is after 5PM, I'm going to thank Daryl for his time. I hope it wasn't to painful for him and hope we can do this again.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@...> wrote:
>
> The folks at BOOM! shield me from all of that stuff, mercifully. Or maybe they're shielding Fox from ME. All I know is that Fox approved the storyline I pitched to the editors, so I'm happy. So far I haven't seemed to have crossed over into any Forbidden Zone.
>
> --d
>

I agree with your observation. The ape in question, Caesar, could be in a begining or middle stage of transformation. They at Fox really have no idea at what and why the Apes are popular. We all moan and groan and write letters make phone calls talk on chatboards, etc., and they at Fox do whatever they want. I cant tell who are the bigger fools, us or them. I did my incredibly over the top share of optomistic whining and crying to the point where Fox invited me for a trip to L.A. to discuss why the laserdiscs were bad. It was sparked by my letter printed in "The Pefect Vision", a friend who shall remain nameless who has/had 4 track audio stems of all the sequels and a first mixdown in mono from POTA. He had a movieola of somekind and made me cassettes that are long gone and they were fabulous. He was what you would call in record collecting as a guy who gets bootlegs from a highup employee at certain film or audio studios. The Apes films were kept mostly at RCA music at that time in the mid-eighties. The sequels were all done multi miked on site( their are some good photos of Conquest with two mikes on site, some are even on your photo sections in BxW) also a few articles from some of the older and recent posters on this website .I got a phone call FROM Bart Pierce to my home phone in 1992. They as much as anything in life has made me a terrible cynic. The look of the original apes is probably the main reason that most folks think they are cool looking. If they dont go with a more human bridge nose and hairdoo it will just be a Burton remake(in looks anyway). The apes in Burtons movie were done very well but it just doesnt sit well with me in that if you evolve into something more human your facial features should change too, wouldnt it? Shoudnt it?
Im surprised and dissapointed that they would show what they feel is a major accomplishment. This chimp looks like Thade not Caesar and if Fox wants to keep a distance from the Burton fiasco why show something that looks just like it. If they dont evolve or change what the heck was all the CGI for, jumping around made by a computer. Big deal!
Sorry for going all over the place but my point is Fox and almost everyone involved with a business that has to show profit to shareholders are liers by nessesity and stuborn as all heck if you point something out or have an opinion that goes against their grain. They will do what they want with the Apes because they could. I bet half the people on this website could right a great screenplay (I did for my thesis at NYU on a possible sixthed Apes film and documentary with all the storyboards and photos for my writing for film media course) and if I could get a 4.0, a 21 year old kid, why cant Fox find just one knoweledable person on apes instead of employees and hacks.
I wont be posting much anymore but when I do it will be long. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@...> wrote:
>
> Looks horrible imo.They should have made the nose more like Caesar and the other chimps form the 70's.
> I can see a regular looking ape anywhere, original Planet of the Apes had it's own original look and should be captured for any POTA film.They are missing the point as usual.
> Sucks.
>

Man, there are so many moments from the films that inspire me as I work on this book. I love those characters. Because I saw the movies when I was young, I think I developed a huge crush on Kim Hunter. Her performance, especially in ESCAPE, is so heartfelt, and the way she works with Roddy MacDowall is just beautiful. And Roddy! I keep his performance in CONQUEST in mind.

But I also think about one of the scariest film moments in my life, watching BENEATH when I was ten. When the mutants pulled off their faces, I almost jumped out of _my_ skin.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> As a fan, what has been your inspiration?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, are you trying to take food out of my mouth? I'm trying to stay
> employed, here!
> >
> > (In case it's not coming across in email, I'm joking. Please insert
> smiley face.)
> >
> > I'm avoiding reading any fan-fic, because I don't want to consciously
> or unconsciously use some other writer's ideas. Making it up is the fun
> part of my job. The non-fun part? Getting interlopers to vacate my
> favorite table at Starbucks.
> >
> > However, I _feel_ like I'm writing fan-fic, because it's fiction, and
> I'm a fan. I'm having a great time.
> >
> > --d
> >
> >
>

Thanks, everybody! I had a great time, and I hope you dig the comic.

--d

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Since it is after 5PM, I'm going to thank Daryl for his time. I hope it
> wasn't to painful for him and hope we can do this again.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "d_gregory_1" <daryl.gregory@> wrote:
> >
> > The folks at BOOM! shield me from all of that stuff, mercifully. Or
> maybe they're shielding Fox from ME. All I know is that Fox approved the
> storyline I pitched to the editors, so I'm happy. So far I haven't
> seemed to have crossed over into any Forbidden Zone.
> >
> > --d
> >
>

Have fun with the comics and good luck. I hope it lasts and creates some kind of stir. John M.

Hey Gang,

Thanks for being so welcoming to Daryl and there have been a ton of great questions today.

I just wanted to chime in that the best way to TRULY get behind the APES comic book is to contact your local comic book shop and PRE-ORDER the the comic from them.

To find out where your local comic shop is located, please go to http://www.comicshoplocator.com and plug in your zip code. Calling them up and pre-ordering the book shows comic shop retailers what the demand is for the book and they will place more orders. The order code to reference with retailers for pre-order is FEB110852.

Again, thanks for being such a great fan base, and we hope to deliver to you the best PLANET OF THE APES possible.

Best,

Chip Mosher
Marketing Director
BOOM! Studios

*** I'm glad they are ignoring TERROR... While I know it has its fans, I
always thought of it as being the beginning of the end... ***

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "colgtaylor" <ColGTaylor@...> wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Gregory, I read your interview with Rich Handly, why are you
> > ignoring excellent comics like Revolution and Terror?

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Yes I agree, it looks more like thade.The look of the original Plante of the Apes is incredible to say the least.The nose, large brow over the eys, chin, hair ..perfection.They could have done an updated version with cgi and it would have looked great.We can all se a regular Ape with King kong and any other monkey movie out there.I agree Burton's makeup was ok, but nothing compared to the early films NOTHING !.
If you got that far with your letter, please inform them about the look of Caesar and how it should look like the original Apes.Maybe you can hlep get through to them.Oh man what I would do to get to see one more amazing Planet of the apes movie that looked like the original Apes.Wish I was in charge of fox. Thanks for your great message.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with your observation. The ape in question, Caesar, could be in a begining or middle stage of transformation. They at Fox really have no idea at what and why the Apes are popular. We all moan and groan and write letters make phone calls talk on chatboards, etc., and they at Fox do whatever they want. I cant tell who are the bigger fools, us or them. I did my incredibly over the top share of optomistic whining and crying to the point where Fox invited me for a trip to L.A. to discuss why the laserdiscs were bad. It was sparked by my letter printed in "The Pefect Vision", a friend who shall remain nameless who has/had 4 track audio stems of all the sequels and a first mixdown in mono from POTA. He had a movieola of somekind and made me cassettes that are long gone and they were fabulous. He was what you would call in record collecting as a guy who gets bootlegs from a highup employee at certain film or audio studios. The Apes films were kept mostly at RCA music at that time in the mid-eighties. The sequels were all done multi miked on site( their are some good photos of Conquest with two mikes on site, some are even on your photo sections in BxW) also a few articles from some of the older and recent posters on this website .I got a phone call FROM Bart Pierce to my home phone in 1992. They as much as anything in life has made me a terrible cynic. The look of the original apes is probably the main reason that most folks think they are cool looking. If they dont go with a more human bridge nose and hairdoo it will just be a Burton remake(in looks anyway). The apes in Burtons movie were done very well but it just doesnt sit well with me in that if you evolve into something more human your facial features should change too, wouldnt it? Shoudnt it?
> Im surprised and dissapointed that they would show what they feel is a major accomplishment. This chimp looks like Thade not Caesar and if Fox wants to keep a distance from the Burton fiasco why show something that looks just like it. If they dont evolve or change what the heck was all the CGI for, jumping around made by a computer. Big deal!
> Sorry for going all over the place but my point is Fox and almost everyone involved with a business that has to show profit to shareholders are liers by nessesity and stuborn as all heck if you point something out or have an opinion that goes against their grain. They will do what they want with the Apes because they could. I bet half the people on this website could right a great screenplay (I did for my thesis at NYU on a possible sixthed Apes film and documentary with all the storyboards and photos for my writing for film media course) and if I could get a 4.0, a 21 year old kid, why cant Fox find just one knoweledable person on apes instead of employees and hacks.
> I wont be posting much anymore but when I do it will be long. Take care, John M.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@> wrote:
> >
> > Looks horrible imo.They should have made the nose more like Caesar and the other chimps form the 70's.
> > I can see a regular looking ape anywhere, original Planet of the Apes had it's own original look and should be captured for any POTA film.They are missing the point as usual.
> > Sucks.
> >
>

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I appreciate your kind thoughts of any influence that I can wave. I talked with many big wigs at Fox as did a few of other guys here at this site and like I said they just do not get it. You show them the sky is blue they will awear its red. It was a very hummiliating and frustrating to deal with them. I practically got a friend put in jail by Fox but luckily I sent them somewhere else. I had told The video heads about where, at that time,great audio could be found but they never persude it. They dont like it if the regular public tries to help them. So weve been stuck with inferior sound for 40 years. Fox went on their own (for Beneath because of a poorly synced sound effects track) and found a sountrack in Spain of all places and till this day even on the bluray the sound effects track is off. Watch Beneath on HBO/Cinemax and Beneath is perfect like it was when I started with them 20 years ago.
My point is they do not listen to any criticism from fans unsolicited including this new film. Jeff Vettus on this site knows more about this new Apes movie and whats going on. I had phone conversations and I talked to Natalie Trundy because of him so he knows where its at now. Thanks again and take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes I agree, it looks more like thade.The look of the original Plante of the Apes is incredible to say the least.The nose, large brow over the eys, chin, hair ..perfection.They could have done an updated version with cgi and it would have looked great.We can all se a regular Ape with King kong and any other monkey movie out there.I agree Burton's makeup was ok, but nothing compared to the early films NOTHING !.
> If you got that far with your letter, please inform them about the look of Caesar and how it should look like the original Apes.Maybe you can hlep get through to them.Oh man what I would do to get to see one more amazing Planet of the apes movie that looked like the original Apes.Wish I was in charge of fox. Thanks for your great message.

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Wow!  I can't tell the difference!

 

 

In a message dated 3/30/2011 3:02:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

 

Sorry about the other photo I sent earlier. Too bad there's no way to unsend!

The green is the clay sculpt that I made a mold of. The brown one is
Apemania's Zira.

Jess.

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Totally agree John. We want human nose-bridges! And all that jumping around looks fake to me anyway. It's either computer generated or obviously wire-rigged fakery. Caesar was strictly pavement. And when he did climb up a tree he brought it old-school human-style.

I'd love to read that thesis.

Richard

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with your observation. The ape in question, Caesar, could be in a begining or middle stage of transformation. They at Fox really have no idea at what and why the Apes are popular. We all moan and groan and write letters make phone calls talk on chatboards, etc., and they at Fox do whatever they want. I cant tell who are the bigger fools, us or them. I did my incredibly over the top share of optomistic whining and crying to the point where Fox invited me for a trip to L.A. to discuss why the laserdiscs were bad. It was sparked by my letter printed in "The Pefect Vision", a friend who shall remain nameless who has/had 4 track audio stems of all the sequels and a first mixdown in mono from POTA. He had a movieola of somekind and made me cassettes that are long gone and they were fabulous. He was what you would call in record collecting as a guy who gets bootlegs from a highup employee at certain film or audio studios. The Apes films were kept mostly at RCA music at that time in the mid-eighties. The sequels were all done multi miked on site( their are some good photos of Conquest with two mikes on site, some are even on your photo sections in BxW) also a few articles from some of the older and recent posters on this website .I got a phone call FROM Bart Pierce to my home phone in 1992. They as much as anything in life has made me a terrible cynic. The look of the original apes is probably the main reason that most folks think they are cool looking. If they dont go with a more human bridge nose and hairdoo it will just be a Burton remake(in looks anyway). The apes in Burtons movie were done very well but it just doesnt sit well with me in that if you evolve into something more human your facial features should change too, wouldnt it? Shoudnt it?
> Im surprised and dissapointed that they would show what they feel is a major accomplishment. This chimp looks like Thade not Caesar and if Fox wants to keep a distance from the Burton fiasco why show something that looks just like it. If they dont evolve or change what the heck was all the CGI for, jumping around made by a computer. Big deal!
> Sorry for going all over the place but my point is Fox and almost everyone involved with a business that has to show profit to shareholders are liers by nessesity and stuborn as all heck if you point something out or have an opinion that goes against their grain. They will do what they want with the Apes because they could. I bet half the people on this website could right a great screenplay (I did for my thesis at NYU on a possible sixthed Apes film and documentary with all the storyboards and photos for my writing for film media course) and if I could get a 4.0, a 21 year old kid, why cant Fox find just one knoweledable person on apes instead of employees and hacks.
> I wont be posting much anymore but when I do it will be long. Take care, John M.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@> wrote:
> >
> > Looks horrible imo.They should have made the nose more like Caesar and the other chimps form the 70's.
> > I can see a regular looking ape anywhere, original Planet of the Apes had it's own original look and should be captured for any POTA film.They are missing the point as usual.
> > Sucks.
> >
>