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Group: potadg Message: 34973 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #69 to 72
Group: potadg Message: 34974 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 34975 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34976 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
Group: potadg Message: 34977 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
Group: potadg Message: 34978 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
Group: potadg Message: 34979 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34980 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
Group: potadg Message: 34981 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34982 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34983 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 34984 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34985 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34986 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34987 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34988 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34989 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 34990 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 34991 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34992 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 34993 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34994 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 34995 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 34996 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 34997 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 34998 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 34999 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35000 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35001 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35002 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35003 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35004 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35005 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35006 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: A history of splitters (like sands through the hourglass....)
Group: potadg Message: 35007 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35008 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35009 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
Group: potadg Message: 35010 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35011 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35012 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35013 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35014 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35015 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: 9 to go - SAY SOMETHING!
Group: potadg Message: 35016 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35017 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
Group: potadg Message: 35018 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35019 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: TESTING.....
Group: potadg Message: 35020 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35021 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35022 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35023 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35024 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35025 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35026 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35027 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
Group: potadg Message: 35028 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35029 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35030 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35031 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35032 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35033 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35034 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Group STATS!
Group: potadg Message: 35035 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35036 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35037 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy Interview...
Group: potadg Message: 35038 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 35039 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35040 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Kong" no longer king
Group: potadg Message: 35041 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35042 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35043 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35044 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35045 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 65
Group: potadg Message: 35046 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35047 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Kong" no longer king
Group: potadg Message: 35048 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35049 From: mike_oz2005 Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35050 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35051 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35052 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #73 to 76
Group: potadg Message: 35053 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Kong" no longer king
Group: potadg Message: 35054 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35055 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Nice Home Page picture Neil!
Group: potadg Message: 35056 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35057 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35058 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35059 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35060 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 65
Group: potadg Message: 35061 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35062 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35063 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35064 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35065 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35066 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35067 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Why , oh why...?
Group: potadg Message: 35068 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35069 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: RORY.....
Group: potadg Message: 35070 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35071 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35072 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Nice Home Page picture Neil!



Group: potadg Message: 34973 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #69 to 72
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I love these full pages that take us outside the strip format.
 
What do the rest of you think - did it work to show you that we are now changing the time to be reflective of the rest of the story?
 
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:51 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Within the Planet of the Apes strip #69 to 72
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Group: potadg Message: 34974 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Hello,

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Group: potadg Message: 34975 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
> Dehn = Downer

-- I have just (for the first time) watched the Roddy interview on
the Behind the POTA SE dvd and he seems to have an opposite view to
that. He thought Dehn was a very good and clever writer. He also
says how he doesn't get hung up on the little inconsistencies in the
films and uses the Frankenstein movies as an example saying
something like when Frankenstein is revived from the ice or whatever
and comes back to life that it doesn't matter if it possible or not
but is just a plot device to get a new story moving and as long as
the story is good it makes no difference.

He also said that he thought each of the Apes movies were good
enough stoy wise to stand on there own as individual movies (not
just Planet!) and he consistently also refers to the films as a
series.

Another interesting thing he has to say is that he wasn't offered
the role of Galen but had to ask the studio to allow him to be in
it, they didn't even originally consider him for the TV show!

He also categorically states that the make up for Caesar was exactly
the same as for Cornelius, same moulds etc. He said the different
look of the characters was due to the way he portrayed them, saying
that the anger he gave Caesar came through the makeups making the
characters look different. I thought that was very interesting as I
had always believed that the make ups were different myself.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 34976 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
> Did you say "rectified," Patrick. Yeah, I'll agree with that.
Being into unflubbing the flubs of POTA the way you are is
sure "rectal" to me!

-- Here you go again Rory. Replies like this just undermine any
serious theories and objections that you put forward.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 34977 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
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I think he's only kidding - or at least tongue in cheek.  Rory, you really like Patrick, right, and respect his right to do what he does?
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:13 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Primitive or Evolved?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> Did you say "rectified," Patrick.  Yeah, I'll agree with that. 
Being into unflubbing the flubs of POTA the way you are is
sure "rectal" to me!

-- Here you go again Rory. Replies like this just undermine any
serious theories and objections that you put forward.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 34978 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 7:17:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
I think he's only kidding - or at least tongue in cheek.  Rory, you really like Patrick, right, and respect his right to do what he does?
 
I know I do.
I just wish he'd put it in a book for me not to read,
instead of his unbelievably long post, which I don't read.
It's not that I don't want to read them.  I do.  But I have
a life.  And I know when I get to the end of it, it's going
to say there was a Mothership, or some other absurdity.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 34979 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/06 8:08:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


-- I have just (for the first time) watched the Roddy interview on
the Behind the POTA SE dvd and he seems to have an opposite view to
that. He thought Dehn was a very good and clever writer. He also
says how he doesn't get hung up on the little inconsistencies in the
films and uses the Frankenstein movies as an example saying
something like when Frankenstein is revived from the ice or whatever
and comes back to life that it doesn't matter if it possible or not
but is just a plot device to get a new story moving and as long as
the story is good it makes no difference.

He also said that he thought each of the Apes movies were good
enough stoy wise to stand on there own as individual movies (not
just Planet!) and he consistently also refers to the films as a
series.

Another interesting thing he has to say is that he wasn't offered
the role of Galen but had to ask the studio to allow him to be in
it, they didn't even originally consider him for the TV show!

He also categorically states that the make up for Caesar was exactly
the same as for Cornelius, same moulds etc. He said the different
look of the characters was due to the way he portrayed them, saying
that the anger he gave Caesar came through the makeups making the
characters look different. I thought that was very interesting as I
had always believed that the make ups were different myself.

Neil


Well, I'm pretty well aquainted with what Roddy McDowall said when he was alive and I don't agree with a lot of it.  He liked Galen best!  Please.

Dehn was a clever writer in that ESCAPE was a brilliant rescue after the debacle of BENEATH, but I think CONQUEST isn't as clever as it should be, often trite and even vulgar.  Dehn basically gave up with BATTLE, left, then can back and really didn't improve things.  So much for Dehn.

I do agree with McDowall on not getting hung up on the inconsistencies between the films and looking at each of them as separate entities.  This is how I've always regarded and although I play along in these groups with these kind of things, I personally couldn't give a rat's ass about them.  (I do care about the timeline question because I think PLANET should be free of its sequels.) Nothing is perfect and the fact is that it's a five film series of movies, not one movie cut into five parts.  This is why I really do find Patrick very silly and only give him a hard time for the fun of it.  (Hear that, Disrespector?!!!!)

I also believe, based on what I know of McDowall, that he wanted the role of Galen -- because he liked a regular pay check!  He probably figured the show would be a big hit and he could keep riding the APES bandwagon a few more years.  McDowall liked to work.

Also, McDowall is just plain wrong about the makeups.  His memory wasn't the best.  I can plainly see the sculpts aren't the same, and Jeff Krueger has quoted Bill Blake as saying they weren't the same.  As far as I'm concerned that's case closed.

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34980 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
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I too wish you (Patrick) would find a way to annotate your posts and post them in digestible chunks.
 
Really, when I DO get through them I want to discuss many of the points.....but some of the award winning (length) posts just have to go in the "read when I have a spare hour" basket.........
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:00 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Primitive or Evolved?

In a message dated 1/10/2006 7:17:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
I think he's only kidding - or at least tongue in cheek.  Rory, you really like Patrick, right, and respect his right to do what he does?
 
I know I do.
I just wish he'd put it in a book for me not to read,
instead of his unbelievably long post, which I don't read.
It's not that I don't want to read them.  I do.  But I have
a life.  And I know when I get to the end of it, it's going
to say there was a Mothership, or some other absurdity.
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Group: potadg Message: 34981 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Questions for Patrick....
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Gay - lan is WONDERFUL!

Jon Boy Toy
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:28 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/06 8:08:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


-- I have just (for the first time) watched the Roddy interview on
the Behind the POTA SE dvd and he seems to have an opposite view to
that. He thought Dehn was a very good and clever writer. He also
says how he doesn't get hung up on the little inconsistencies in the
films and uses the Frankenstein movies as an example saying
something like when Frankenstein is revived from the ice or whatever
and comes back to life that it doesn't matter if it possible or not
but is just a plot device to get a new story moving and as long as
the story is good it makes no difference.

He also said that he thought each of the Apes movies were good
enough stoy wise to stand on there own as individual movies (not
just Planet!) and he consistently also refers to the films as a
series.

Another interesting thing he has to say is that he wasn't offered
the role of Galen but had to ask the studio to allow him to be in
it, they didn't even originally consider him for the TV show!

He also categorically states that the make up for Caesar was exactly
the same as for Cornelius, same moulds etc. He said the different
look of the characters was due to the way he portrayed them, saying
that the anger he gave Caesar came through the makeups making the
characters look different. I thought that was very interesting as I
had always believed that the make ups were different myself.

Neil


Well, I'm pretty well aquainted with what Roddy McDowall said when he was alive and I don't agree with a lot of it.  He liked Galen best!  Please.
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Group: potadg Message: 34982 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Well, it is getting boring Rory.....I'm not going to place you on moderation or boot you out of the group, so may I instead politely ask you to back off Patrick?

Surely you are growing tired of it....
 
And surely you get SOMETHING out of Patrick's work?   I sure do...
 
Michael
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:28 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/06 8:08:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


-- I have just (for the first time) watched the Roddy interview on
the Behind the POTA SE dvd and he seems to have an opposite view to
that. He thought Dehn was a very good and clever writer. He also
says how he doesn't get hung up on the little inconsistencies in the
films and uses the Frankenstein movies as an example saying
something like when Frankenstein is revived from the ice or whatever
and comes back to life that it doesn't matter if it possible or not
but is just a plot device to get a new story moving and as long as
the story is good it makes no difference.

He also said that he thought each of the Apes movies were good
enough stoy wise to stand on there own as individual movies (not
just Planet!) and he consistently also refers to the films as a
series.

Another interesting thing he has to say is that he wasn't offered
the role of Galen but had to ask the studio to allow him to be in
it, they didn't even originally consider him for the TV show!

He also categorically states that the make up for Caesar was exactly
the same as for Cornelius, same moulds etc. He said the different
look of the characters was due to the way he portrayed them, saying
that the anger he gave Caesar came through the makeups making the
characters look different. I thought that was very interesting as I
had always believed that the make ups were different myself.

Neil


Well, I'm pretty well aquainted with what Roddy McDowall said when he was alive and I don't agree with a lot of it.  He liked Galen best!  Please.

Dehn was a clever writer in that ESCAPE was a brilliant rescue after the debacle of BENEATH, but I think CONQUEST isn't as clever as it should be, often trite and even vulgar.  Dehn basically gave up with BATTLE, left, then can back and really didn't improve things.  So much for Dehn.

I do agree with McDowall on not getting hung up on the inconsistencies between the films and looking at each of them as separate entities.  This is how I've always regarded and although I play along in these groups with these kind of things, I personally couldn't give a rat's ass about them.  (I do care about the timeline question because I think PLANET should be free of its sequels.) Nothing is perfect and the fact is that it's a five film series of movies, not one movie cut into five parts.  This is why I really do find Patrick very silly and only give him a hard time for the fun of it.  (Hear that, Disrespector?!!!!)

I also believe, based on what I know of McDowall, that he wanted the role of Galen -- because he liked a regular pay check!  He probably figured the show would be a big hit and he could keep riding the APES bandwagon a few more years.  McDowall liked to work.

Also, McDowall is just plain wrong about the makeups.  His memory wasn't the best.  I can plainly see the sculpts aren't the same, and Jeff Krueger has quoted Bill Blake as saying they weren't the same.  As far as I'm concerned that's case closed.

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34983 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2006 7:08:17 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

he consistently also refers to the films as a series.


That's because starting with BENEATH, they are part of a series of films... No one said they weren't that I can recall... It's calling it a "saga" that includes PLANET as the starting point that irks people...


He said the different look of the characters was due to the way he portrayed them, saying that the anger he gave Caesar came through the makeups making the
characters look different. I thought that was very interesting as I had always believed that the make ups were different myself.


And you know, your belief is/was right... The make-ups ARE different, even an untrained eye can tell it... Poor Roddy sure had himself kidded when he said that one...
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Group: potadg Message: 34984 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/06 9:45:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


Well, it is getting boring Rory.....I'm not going to place you on moderation or boot you out of the group, so may I instead politely ask you to back off Patrick?

Surely you are growing tired of it....


And surely you get SOMETHING out of Patrick's work?   I sure do...

Michael


Yes, I am growing tired of it, and I'm pretty much timelined out.

As for the SOMETHING I get out of Patrick's so-called "work"....

Do you really want to know?  It isn't pretty and eventually gets flushed.

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34985 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/06 9:34:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


Gay - lan is WONDERFUL!

Jon Boy Toy



Exactly.  Did you ever notice Galen would rather take off with a couple of brokeback ass-tro-nauts rather than just find a nice lady chimp and monkey around?

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34986 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
> Also, McDowall is just plain wrong about the makeups. His memory
wasn't the best. I can plainly see the sculpts aren't the same, and
Jeff Krueger has quoted Bill Blake as saying they weren't the same.
As far as I'm concerned that's case closed.

I don't know about his memory but I do know in the interview he is
VERY adamant about it. He relates a tale of a reporter (I think)
telling him that the make up is different and it got to the stage
that Roddy was so annoyed with him for not believing they were the
same that he exploded angrily at him because of it (not the sort of
thing he usually did).
His memory may or may not have been bad (I don't know) but he seemed
very sure about this.

Like I said though, I have always thought the makeups were
different, definitely the hair.


Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 34987 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
> I also believe, based on what I know of McDowall, that he wanted the
role of Galen -- because he liked a regular pay check! He probably
figured the show would be a big hit and he could keep riding the APES
bandwagon a few more years.

-- Well it backfired on him then because he says that as he went
asking for the role the network held all the aces and they payed him a
lot less than he would have got if they had wanted him for it!

And yes he did also say he liked playing Galen the best, mainly
because the role wasn't so serious as the others and Galen was such a
free spirit and more fun compared to the two 'C's.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 34988 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Oh - Kassidy Rae is tearing you one as we type!  :)
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/06 9:34:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


Gay - lan is WONDERFUL!

Jon Boy Toy



Exactly.  Did you ever notice Galen would rather take off with a couple of brokeback ass-tro-nauts rather than just find a nice lady chimp and monkey around?

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34989 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Time to edit yourself
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:34:53 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


I too wish you (Patrick) would find a way to annotate your posts and post them in digestible chunks.
 

I AGREE 100%... It's pretty sad that when I seen how long the replies were, I didn't even bother to read anything that was written... I am sure he didn't agree with a thing I said, but still...
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Group: potadg Message: 34990 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
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Actors do bullshit a lot!
It's a bit like Dr House - who never believes his patients (and gets his employees to break into their houses and snoop for clues of the "real" symptom) - I never believe an actor!
 
Amazing how they are all so bitchy and demanding then recall things as all lovey and rosey!  :)


Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Roddy interview

In a message dated 1/10/2006 7:08:17 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

he consistently also refers to the films as a series.


That's because starting with BENEATH, they are part of a series of films... No one said they weren't that I can recall... It's calling it a "saga" that includes PLANET as the starting point that irks people...


He said the different look of the characters was due to the way he portrayed them, saying that the anger he gave Caesar came through the makeups making the
characters look different. I thought that was very interesting as I had always believed that the make ups were different myself.


And you know, your belief is/was right... The make-ups ARE different, even an untrained eye can tell it... Poor Roddy sure had himself kidded when he said that one...
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Group: potadg Message: 34991 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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That's not what the ASS-tronauts said!  :)
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

 
he exploded angrily at him because of it (not the sort of
thing he usually did).
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Group: potadg Message: 34992 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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Yeah - and guess what?!?!?!?
 
We only need to make up about 40 posts and we will actually go ahead of the group "dictated by James".
 
Then we can all drink ourselves into a stupor!

C'mon Patrick - 3 paragraphs at a time and we'll all get wasted!  :)
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:34:53 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


I too wish you (Patrick) would find a way to annotate your posts and post them in digestible chunks.
 

I AGREE 100%... It's pretty sad that when I seen how long the replies were, I didn't even bother to read anything that was written... I am sure he didn't agree with a thing I said, but still...
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Group: potadg Message: 34993 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Girls, they wanna have fu-un.......
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> I also believe, based on what I know of McDowall, that he wanted the
role of Galen -- because he liked a regular pay check!  He probably
figured the show would be a big hit and he could keep riding the APES
bandwagon a few more years.

-- Well it backfired on him then because he says that as he went
asking for the role the network held all the aces and they payed him a
lot less than he would have got if they had wanted him for it!

And yes he did also say he liked playing Galen the best, mainly
because the role wasn't so serious as the others and Galen was such a
free spirit and more fun compared to the two 'C's.

Neil


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Group: potadg Message: 34994 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/06 9:52:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


I don't know about his memory but I do know in the interview he is
VERY adamant about it. He relates a tale of a reporter (I think)
telling him that the make up is different and it got to the stage
that Roddy was so annoyed with him for not believing they were the
same that he exploded angrily at him because of it (not the sort of
thing he usually did).
His memory may or may not have been bad (I don't know) but he seemed
very sure about this.


Well, I really don't know if McDowall would be aware if the sculpts of the appliances were different or not.  I doubt he was around while the makeup artists made them.  For him, all apes probably looked alike. 

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34995 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/06 9:53:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


Actors do bullshit a lot!

It's a bit like Dr House - who never believes his patients (and gets his employees to break into their houses and snoop for clues of the "real" symptom) - I never believe an actor!

Amazing how they are all so bitchy and demanding then recall things as all lovey and rosey!  :)


Michael

One thing you have to remember about actors is that for the most part it's "just a job" for them.  They're not as into the final product as fans are.  I doubt Sean Connery knows much about the Bond movies he did, or even cares.

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34996 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
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Yes, I can understand that.
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Roddy interview

In a message dated 1/10/06 9:53:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


Actors do bullshit a lot!

It's a bit like Dr House - who never believes his patients (and gets his employees to break into their houses and snoop for clues of the "real" symptom) - I never believe an actor!

Amazing how they are all so bitchy and demanding then recall things as all lovey and rosey!  :)


Michael

One thing you have to remember about actors is that for the most part it's "just a job" for them.  They're not as into the final product as fans are.  I doubt Sean Connery knows much about the Bond movies he did, or even cares.

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 34997 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
> One thing you have to remember about actors is that for the most
part it's "just a job" for them. They're not as into the final
product as fans are.

-- Which reminds me he also mentioned how delighted he was that fans
still, all those years later, remembered and enjoyed his Apes roles
but he wasn't too enamoured with the POTA 'Lunatic Fringe'.

Hey, that would be us lot wouldn't it? ;-)

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 34998 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:57:36 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

We only need to make up about 40 posts and we will actually go ahead of the group "dictated by James".

Do you mean for the month or in total since their inceptions?
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Group: potadg Message: 34999 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/06 9:53:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


-- Well it backfired on him then because he says that as he went
asking for the role the network held all the aces and they payed him a
lot less than he would have got if they had wanted him for it!

McDowall was not a rich actor and took pretty much whatever he could get.  APES was a gravy train for a lot of years for him.

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 35000 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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I mean for the total since their inception.
 
They have NEVER come anywhere near our monthly totals.
 
SPLITTERS!
 
Michael (splitter!)
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:57:36 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

We only need to make up about 40 posts and we will actually go ahead of the group "dictated by James".


Do you mean for the month or in total since their inceptions?
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Group: potadg Message: 35001 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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So you think he took the small pay, thinking he could make up for it next season?
 
BOY DID HE SCREW THAT ONE UP!?!?!?

Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/06 9:53:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


-- Well it backfired on him then because he says that as he went
asking for the role the network held all the aces and they payed him a
lot less than he would have got if they had wanted him for it!

McDowall was not a rich actor and took pretty much whatever he could get.  APES was a gravy train for a lot of years for him.

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 35002 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:
> Do you mean for the month or in total since their inceptions?

-- Overall total of posts since both groupos were founded.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 35003 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:10:38 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


SPLITTERS!


We were the splitters, and I'm glad it worked out the way it has...
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Group: potadg Message: 35004 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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And it is currently 20 posts between us....so if we could get Rory and T to SHUT UP over there and throw a few off here, we can start taunting them!  :) 

Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:10 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> Do you mean for the month or in total since their inceptions?

-- Overall total of posts since both groupos were founded.

Neil



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Group: potadg Message: 35005 From: Neil Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:
> We were the splitters, and I'm glad it worked out the way it has...

-- And then they split again to go back over there. So what does that
make them? Re-splitters?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 35006 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: A history of splitters (like sands through the hourglass....)
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Well, strangely enough, James and I were the original splitters because the POTA group had turned into a wasteland of negativity and abuse.
 
SO off we cane to form the DG and at first EVERYONE was placed on moderation.
 
Now the POTA group is moderated and this one is not.
 
That happened because James decided to do a deal with the POTA group owner rather than work with a team on the DG (which is when HE became a splitter).
 
I then asked Neil to help me out with some computer/technical stuff on the DG and this required me making Neil an owner (owners can do shit that others can't!).
 
So Glen and Menluth had a hissy fit...HOW DARE I ALLOW NEIL TO BE AN OWNER!  WHAT MIGHT HE GET UP TO?!?!?
 
So.....Helen and I (as owners) voted to return the group to it's original owner (me) and ignore the authority of Glen (moderator - appointed by James without conferring with ME!) and Menluth (owner - appointed by James without conferring with ME!) and Helen (owner - by mutual agreement with James).
 
Then Glen and Menluth had hissy fits and stormed off to their buddy James.
 
Then Helen left too because she didn't like me not liking James.
 
Now it's just me and that awful Neil!  You porr buggers!  :)

Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:13 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:10:38 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


SPLITTERS!


We were the splitters, and I'm glad it worked out the way it has...
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Group: potadg Message: 35007 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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Banana splitters?
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:21 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> We were the splitters, and I'm glad it worked out the way it has...

-- And then they split again to go back over there. So what does that
make them? Re-splitters?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 35008 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:22:08 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- And then they split again to go back over there. So what does that
make them? Re-splitters?


Dumbasses?
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Group: potadg Message: 35009 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:34:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
"read when I have a spare hour" basket.........
I never have that much spare time.
I'd rather play guitar, or playstation
or clean the toilet, with his posts.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35010 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:50:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
It isn't pretty and eventually gets flushed
 
Done that joke already.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35011 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:45:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
And surely you get SOMETHING out of Patrick's work?
 
I know I do. 
I just wish I didn't have to dig so deep for it.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35012 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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;)
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:22:08 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- And then they split again to go back over there. So what does that
make them? Re-splitters?


Dumbasses?
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Group: potadg Message: 35013 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:52:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
He relates a tale of a reporter (I think)
telling him that the make up is different and it got to the stage
that Roddy was so annoyed with him for not believing they were the
same that he exploded angrily at him because of it (not the sort of
thing he usually did).
 
Wow, I'd like to read that.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35014 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Go watch it!

Do you not have the WITHIN Special Edition?
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:41 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:52:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
He relates a tale of a reporter (I think)
telling him that the make up is different and it got to the stage
that Roddy was so annoyed with him for not believing they were the
same that he exploded angrily at him because of it (not the sort of
thing he usually did).
 
Wow, I'd like to read that.
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Group: potadg Message: 35015 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: 9 to go - SAY SOMETHING!
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Just say "congratulations!"  :)

Michael
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Group: potadg Message: 35016 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:53:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
It's pretty sad that when I seen how long the replies were, I didn't even bother to read anything that was written...
 
He needs about a paragraph, and short one,
with a hypertext link at the end that says, (read the full story . . .)
 
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35017 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
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But if there were more, smaller posts you would read them?
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Primitive or Evolved?

In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:34:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
"read when I have a spare hour" basket.........
I never have that much spare time.
I'd rather play guitar, or playstation
or clean the toilet, with his posts.
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Group: potadg Message: 35018 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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Ok the - hey I seem to be having Yahoo! problems...are you getting this?
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:53:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
It's pretty sad that when I seen how long the replies were, I didn't even bother to read anything that was written...
 
He needs about a paragraph, and short one,
with a hypertext link at the end that says, (read the full story . . .)
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Group: potadg Message: 35019 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: TESTING.....
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Is this getting through!???!?!?!
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Group: potadg Message: 35020 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:58:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
Well, I really don't know if McDowall would be aware if the sculpts of the appliances were different or not.  I doubt he was around while the makeup artists made them.  For him, all apes probably looked alike. 
 
They probably told him they were the same to humor him
and he bought it hook line and sinker.  That's why when
someone else told him otherwise he got pissed off.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35021 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Yeah - my parents told me lamb chops grew on trees when I refused to eat meat because it came from animals.
 
Then i told my second grade class....well, I am still getting over that one!
 
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/2006 8:58:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
Well, I really don't know if McDowall would be aware if the sculpts of the appliances were different or not.  I doubt he was around while the makeup artists made them.  For him, all apes probably looked alike. 
 
They probably told him they were the same to humor him
and he bought it hook line and sinker.  That's why when
someone else told him otherwise he got pissed off.
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Group: potadg Message: 35022 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:15:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
so if we could get Rory and T to SHUT UP over there and throw a few off here, we can start taunting them!  :) 
 
Man, you know I don't even look to see which group I'm on!
That gets me in trouble from time to time.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35023 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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I have noticed!  :)

Hey - this is our 35023rd post.
 
We are now equal to the POTA Group!
 
Michael
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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:15:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
so if we could get Rory and T to SHUT UP over there and throw a few off here, we can start taunting them!  :) 
 
Man, you know I don't even look to see which group I'm on!
That gets me in trouble from time to time.
 

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Group: potadg Message: 35024 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:46:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Go watch it!

Do you not have the WITHIN Special Edition?
 
I don't know . . . Do I?
 
I think someone sent it to me.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35025 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Oh man - go now and look!
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:57 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:46:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Go watch it!

Do you not have the WITHIN Special Edition?
 
I don't know . . . Do I?
 
I think someone sent it to me.
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Group: potadg Message: 35026 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Go watch it!

Do you not have the WITHIN Special Edition?



You mean the BEHIND documentary...    
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Group: potadg Message: 35027 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Primitive or Evolved?
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:48:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
But if there were more, smaller posts you would read them?
 
Yes!  Probably.
I like to feel I'm moving forward.
Getting through the emails.
He should break them into a
few short paragraphs each.
I don't like scrolling down to China.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35028 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:52:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Ok the - hey I seem to be having Yahoo! problems...are you getting this?
 
yup
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35029 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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We are now equal to the POTA Group!


It's not gonna be equal for long, it will be surpassed...
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Group: potadg Message: 35030 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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Oh yeah!  For sure.
 
But if Rory tires of the timeline debate...hmmm......????
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:01 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 9:57:57 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


We are now equal to the POTA Group!


It's not gonna be equal for long, it will be surpassed...
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Group: potadg Message: 35031 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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Shameless self promotion....  :)
 
Yes, Behind I mean!
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:00 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....


Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Go watch it!

Do you not have the WITHIN Special Edition?



You mean the BEHIND documentary...    
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Group: potadg Message: 35032 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2006 10:03:01 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

But if Rory tires of the timeline debate...hmmm......????

If he tires of that, you have the new comics to fall back on for conversation... Or your and Neil's strips, or Going Home...
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Group: potadg Message: 35033 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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Well nobody answered many of the questions - like for example this morning I asked about the effectiveness of the style change in WITHIN....
 
Michael
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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:05 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

In a message dated 1/10/2006 10:03:01 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

But if Rory tires of the timeline debate...hmmm......????


If he tires of that, you have the new comics to fall back on for conversation... Or your and Neil's strips, or Going Home...
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Group: potadg Message: 35034 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Group STATS!
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To reach 35 020 posts:
 
Took POTA group 89 months;
 
Took POTADG 38 months.
 
Average posts (not including January):

POTA group: 393.5 posts per month;
 
POTADG: 921.5 posts per month.
 
Lame home page pictures:
 
POTA Group: all
 
POTADG: Nil
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35035 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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In a message dated 1/10/2006 10:03:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Yes, Behind I mean!
Is that in the Roddy interviews?
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35036 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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It is
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

In a message dated 1/10/2006 10:03:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Yes, Behind I mean!
Is that in the Roddy interviews?
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35037 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy Interview...
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Is that in the Roddy interviews?


The Roddy interview is on the second DVD of the special edition set of BEHIND...
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Group: potadg Message: 35038 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/10/2006
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Birthday Reminder from the Calendar of PotaDG
Wright King's Birthday

Wednesday January 11, 2006
All Day
This event repeats every year.

Notes:
Happy Birthday Wright!

Yahoo! Greetings
Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Find Gifts
Browse Yahoo! Shopping's Gift Guide

click here


Copyright ©  2006  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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Group: potadg Message: 35039 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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  Before they do the next "Batman", the same director (Chris Nolan), star (Christian Bale) and co-star (Michael Caine) are doing a drama together, I think about a magician.
  Overall, I think the top movies of 2005 were a great indication that the audience could handle darker movies and you don't have to talk down to them. "Star Wars" and "Harry Potter" each went to a more adult rating, "Batman" and "War of the Worlds" were dark. The top movies were sci-fi and sequels. And one of them was about an ape ("King Kong" didn't deliver what they hoped but it's still one of the top movies of the year). All good signposts for Fox to do a GOOD POTA. But it's Fox so forget about it. A bad indicator for the year was Fox did "Fantastic 4".  - - - Jeff
 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Batman

Well they certainly have Bale signed on for at least another 2.
 
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Kong" no longer king

In a message dated 1/9/2006 9:34:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:
Does anyone have any theories on what happened in POTA 2001. If you know the Batman movies and saw how they turned to garbage then apes can be saved. I had no interest in seeing Batman Begins and I'm a huge Batman fan. Having said that I got it for Christmas and it's must see. Best of them all hands down. Now back to what I was saying about apes 2001. My though was when the space station was at the center of the storm and they got the signals from earth of all time, maybe history was being erased and instead of man rising so to speak maybe the apes rose? I have no other way to explain it? I have no idea what the point was to being on another planet? I saw an interview with Tim Burton before it came out and he said the end was a shocker that he came up with. Did he read the book? It ends almost in the same fashion. I do think it can be saved. Does anyone know if they are going to do a sequel?


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Group: potadg Message: 35040 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Kong" no longer king
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  "King Kong" and POTA are both about APES. You're not supposed to think when you're talking about studios. You have to slow down your brain. That's it, sloooooow. Like using a coloring book. Put a little blue there, maybe color the flowers red. That's it. Now you're thinking like a studio executive. - - - Jeff
 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Kong" no longer king

In a message dated 1/9/2006 8:16:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
  "Kong" has made $197 million in the U.S. It will probably have earned it's $207 million budget back in the U.S. by next weekend. "Narnia" came out a week earlier and has made $247 in the U.S. So between "Harry Potter" and "Narnia", "Kong" is a distant 3rd for the end of the year. For whatever reason people really weren't all that interested in "Kong". 
  And yes, if "Kong" had been a smash I think that would've tipped the scale in favor of an "Apes 2". POTA2001 made more worldwide than "Fantastic Four" and Fox is doing an F42 (though they contractually have an obligation to Marvel to continue if they want to keep the property). But so what, if there's an "Apes 2" Fox will make it and it'll be garbage. - - - Jeff
 
 
I don't get the connection between pota and King Kong. They are very different movies. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 35041 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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.html.html In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:22:32 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

A bad indicator for the year was Fox did "Fantastic 4".

Fantastic Four wasn't that bad of a movie... Sure a lot better than some of them I seen this year...


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Group: potadg Message: 35042 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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  "Fantastic 4" was the superhero equivalent of POTA2001. And no Burton in sight. Burton did two good movies this year. Burton Hunting Season is over, as far as I'm concerned. - - - Jeff
 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Batman

In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:22:32 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

A bad indicator for the year was Fox did "Fantastic 4".

Fantastic Four wasn't that bad of a movie... Sure a lot better than some of them I seen this year...


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Group: potadg Message: 35043 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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.html.html In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:31:34 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Burton did two good movies this year.


I wasn't too impressed by "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", and even less impressed by "The Corpse Bride"...
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Group: potadg Message: 35044 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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  I was.    - - - Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Batman

In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:31:34 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Burton did two good movies this year.


I wasn't too impressed by "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", and even less impressed by "The Corpse Bride"...
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Group: potadg Message: 35045 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Marvel UK issue 65
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Issue 65 is now available on Hunter's site. Letter column fans hit the jackpot this week, with a two-page spread of letters.
 
Also in this issue is the third part of the Conquest adaptation, which some may view as the prequel to the new Mr. Comics series Revolution on the Planet of the Apes (on sale now at a comic shop near you).
 
 
Greg
 
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 35046 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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That's the problem isn't it Jeff?
 
They are thinking "people don't want POTA" but really they should be thinking "people don't want rubbish"!
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:25 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Batman

  Before they do the next "Batman", the same director (Chris Nolan), star (Christian Bale) and co-star (Michael Caine) are doing a drama together, I think about a magician.
  Overall, I think the top movies of 2005 were a great indication that the audience could handle darker movies and you don't have to talk down to them. "Star Wars" and "Harry Potter" each went to a more adult rating, "Batman" and "War of the Worlds" were dark. The top movies were sci-fi and sequels. And one of them was about an ape ("King Kong" didn't deliver what they hoped but it's still one of the top movies of the year). All good signposts for Fox to do a GOOD POTA. But it's Fox so forget about it. A bad indicator for the year was Fox did "Fantastic 4".  - - - Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Batman

Well they certainly have Bale signed on for at least another 2.
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Kong" no longer king

In a message dated 1/9/2006 9:34:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:
Does anyone have any theories on what happened in POTA 2001. If you know the Batman movies and saw how they turned to garbage then apes can be saved. I had no interest in seeing Batman Begins and I'm a huge Batman fan. Having said that I got it for Christmas and it's must see. Best of them all hands down. Now back to what I was saying about apes 2001. My though was when the space station was at the center of the storm and they got the signals from earth of all time, maybe history was being erased and instead of man rising so to speak maybe the apes rose? I have no other way to explain it? I have no idea what the point was to being on another planet? I saw an interview with Tim Burton before it came out and he said the end was a shocker that he came up with. Did he read the book? It ends almost in the same fashion. I do think it can be saved. Does anyone know if they are going to do a sequel?
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Group: potadg Message: 35047 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Kong" no longer king
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If KONG had been a (blockbuster) succes you would have seen a million movies with apes in them to cash in on the momentum.
 
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Kong" no longer king

  "King Kong" and POTA are both about APES. You're not supposed to think when you're talking about studios. You have to slow down your brain. That's it, sloooooow. Like using a coloring book. Put a little blue there, maybe color the flowers red. That's it. Now you're thinking like a studio executive. - - - Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Kong" no longer king

In a message dated 1/9/2006 8:16:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
  "Kong" has made $197 million in the U.S. It will probably have earned it's $207 million budget back in the U.S. by next weekend. "Narnia" came out a week earlier and has made $247 in the U.S. So between "Harry Potter" and "Narnia", "Kong" is a distant 3rd for the end of the year. For whatever reason people really weren't all that interested in "Kong". 
  And yes, if "Kong" had been a smash I think that would've tipped the scale in favor of an "Apes 2". POTA2001 made more worldwide than "Fantastic Four" and Fox is doing an F42 (though they contractually have an obligation to Marvel to continue if they want to keep the property). But so what, if there's an "Apes 2" Fox will make it and it'll be garbage. - - - Jeff
 
 
I don't get the connection between pota and King Kong. They are very different movies. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 35048 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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I made it to the 20 inute mark and have not seen the rest yet - what I saw was that same old tired formula.....
 
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Batman

In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:22:32 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

A bad indicator for the year was Fox did "Fantastic 4".

Fantastic Four wasn't that bad of a movie... Sure a lot better than some of them I seen this year...
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Group: potadg Message: 35049 From: mike_oz2005 Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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I spoke with Neil last night and we have decided the next comic we do
will be interactive, and written by the entire group.

I'm fairly sure this will be in the "comic strip" format that WITHIN
was (well, most of it!) - but you MIGHT be able to convince him
otherwise.

The first question is - WHAT PART OF THE PLANET OF THE APES DO WE WANT
TO DEAL WITH?

Do we want to do something in the PLANET environment (as WITHIN was)?

Or maybe in the TV show or RETURN environment?

We'll discuss this and make a decision by Monday at the latest.

This is a unique opportunity so please chime in ASAP and begin to
discuss what you want from this project.

Michael
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Group: potadg Message: 35050 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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Group: potadg Message: 35051 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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So we have already done BEWARE THE BEAST which is set in the PLANET environment, taking place at the conclusion of BENEATH.
 
We have also done WITHIN THE PLANET OF THE APES which is set in the PLANET environment, taking place (about 10 years) prior to PLANET, and also leaping forward to taking place just before Milo, Zira and Cornelius take off and witness the destruction of earth.
 
WITHIN is left open to further explore how Milo (and Robbie the Robot!:) get he ship up and going etc, so there's a place we COULD go.
 
We could do a RETURN story.
 
We could do a TV SHOW environment story.
 
Or something that pairs with the sequels to PLANET.
 
Ideas?
 
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mike_oz2005
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] New GROUP Comic (interactive).

I spoke with Neil last night and we have decided the next comic we do
will be interactive, and written by the entire group.

I'm fairly sure this will be in the "comic strip" format that WITHIN
was (well, most of it!) - but you MIGHT be able to convince him
otherwise.

The first question is - WHAT PART OF THE PLANET OF THE APES DO WE WANT
TO DEAL WITH?

Do we want to do something in the PLANET environment (as WITHIN was)?

Or maybe in the TV show or RETURN environment?

We'll discuss this and make a decision by Monday at the latest.

This is a unique opportunity so please chime in ASAP and begin to
discuss what you want from this project.

Michael
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Group: potadg Message: 35052 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/11/2006
Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #73 to 76
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    Group: potadg Message: 35053 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: OT: "Kong" no longer king
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    In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:02:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    If KONG had been a (blockbuster) succes you would have seen a million movies with apes in them to cash in on the momentum.
     
    It's kind of ironic, but people here, after seeing Kong
    want to see the gorillas.  Unfortunately, for everyone,
    except possibly the gorillas, while they are inside for
    the winter, the Zoo is remodeling the gorillas habitat. 
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35054 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/11/2006
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    In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:11:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    Do we want to do something in the PLANET
     
    I vote yes.  The Planet has the most Apey flavor to it.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35055 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Nice Home Page picture Neil!
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    Group: potadg Message: 35056 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > Go watch it!
    > Do you not have the WITHIN Special Edition?

    There's a Within special edition? I didn't know I had drawn extra
    panels... I think you mean the Behind the POTA special edition dvd
    don't you. ;-)

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35057 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
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    Oh leave me alone!  I was having a bad day!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
    Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:40 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Questions for Patrick....

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > Go watch it!
    > Do you not have the WITHIN Special Edition?

    There's a Within special edition? I didn't know I had drawn extra
    panels... I think you mean the Behind the POTA special edition dvd
    don't you. ;-)

    Neil





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    Group: potadg Message: 35058 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > Well nobody answered many of the questions - like for example this
    morning I asked about the effectiveness of the style change in
    WITHIN....

    -- Still waiting to find out if anyone would like to see Going Home
    from the start but with the pencils not the inked pages. (It is inked
    up to page 10 but the rest are only pencilled so far but have had the
    dialog added.)

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35059 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
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    Well I would.
     
    I have a funny feeling most people find it too hard to access the comics so they rarely see them (unless we send the page to the group as we do with WITHIN).
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
    Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:45 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > Well nobody answered many of the questions - like for example this
    morning I asked about the effectiveness of the style change in
    WITHIN....

    -- Still waiting to find out if anyone would like to see Going Home
    from the start but with the pencils not the inked pages. (It is inked
    up to page 10 but the rest are only pencilled so far but have had the
    dialog added.)

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35060 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 65
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
    > Issue 65 is now available on Hunter's site. Letter column fans hit
    the jackpot this week, with a two-page spread of letters.

    -- As usual thanks for doing this Greg, you're the best!

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35061 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Batman
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:
    > Fantastic Four wasn't that bad of a movie... Sure a lot better than
    some of them I seen this year...

    -- I agree. Me and my kids all enjoyed it.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35062 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "mike_oz2005" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > I'm fairly sure this will be in the "comic strip" format that WITHIN
    > was (well, most of it!) - but you MIGHT be able to convince him
    > otherwise.

    -- Yeah! Within strip format!

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35063 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > We could do a RETURN story.
    > We could do a TV SHOW environment story.
    > Or something that pairs with the sequels to PLANET.
    > Ideas?

    -- As long as it features 'brains in jars' I don't mind. ;-)

    Seriously though, a Return story sounds interesting and would present
    unique challenges I think.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35064 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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    In a message dated 1/11/2006 3:11:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    I spoke with Neil last night and we have decided the next comic we do
    will be interactive, and written by the entire group.

    I'm fairly sure this will be in the "comic strip" format that WITHIN
    was (well, most of it!) - but you MIGHT be able to convince him
    otherwise.

    The first question is - WHAT PART OF THE PLANET OF THE APES DO WE WANT
    TO DEAL WITH?

    Do we want to do something in the PLANET environment (as WITHIN was)?

    Or maybe in the TV show or RETURN environment?

    We'll discuss this and make a decision by Monday at the latest.

    This is a unique opportunity so please chime in ASAP and begin to
    discuss what you want from this project.

    Michael

    I would like another story in the planet setting. Elaine




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    Group: potadg Message: 35065 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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    .html.html In a message dated 1/11/06 7:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


    Well I would.


    I have a funny feeling most people find it too hard to access the comics so they rarely see them (unless we send the page to the group as we do with WITHIN).

    Michael


    I like the page to the group thing, as I rarely have time to spend on the Yahoo sites.  Personally, I don't spend a lot of time on my computer at home.  I sit at one all day at work.  Coming home to do the same thing all evening is as crazy as one of you-know-who's "scenarios."

    -- Rory (logging off soon)
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    Group: potadg Message: 35066 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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    In a message dated 1/11/2006 6:57:38 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
    Seriously though, a Return story sounds interesting and would present
    unique challenges I think.

    Neil
    I agree with this but without doing a remake I think you need to find a new way to get to the Planet of the apes. I think it gets a little old and my wife always likes to point out that only the monkeys seem able to land a space ship without crashing. I think doing a remake is stupid (EX) Tim Burtons catastrophe.
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    Group: potadg Message: 35067 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Why , oh why...?
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    For some reason Alan maxwell has just left the group. I am still
    waiting to here from him why he felt he needed to.
    It is a great pity as I was going to ask him about when we can expect
    to see the next issue of Simian Scrolls as I thought it should have
    been out by now?

    Maybe they have decided to call it a day, as Dave Ballard did seem to
    hint at that a while ago when the last issue came out. I sincerely
    hope they haven't given up on it.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35068 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Batman
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    .html.html In a message dated 1/11/06 7:51:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
    > Fantastic Four wasn't that bad of a movie... Sure a lot better than
    some of them I seen this year...

    -- I agree. Me and my kids all enjoyed it.

    Neil

    Has it ever occurred to you people that by going to these movies you're only encouraging Fox to do more of the same?  You'll never get another APES movie that way.

    -- Rory
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    Group: potadg Message: 35069 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: RORY.....
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    What do you want us do do as the interactive comic?!?!?!?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
    Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:02 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself

    In a message dated 1/11/06 7:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


    Well I would.


    I have a funny feeling most people find it too hard to access the comics so they rarely see them (unless we send the page to the group as we do with WITHIN).

    Michael


    I like the page to the group thing, as I rarely have time to spend on the Yahoo sites.  Personally, I don't spend a lot of time on my computer at home.  I sit at one all day at work.  Coming home to do the same thing all evening is as crazy as one of you-know-who's "scenarios."

    -- Rory (logging off soon)
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    Group: potadg Message: 35070 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Batman
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    If FOX did POTA as well as they did BATMAN RETURNS (wasn't that WB?) I would have no complaints.
     
    Did you see BATMAN RETURNS Rory?

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
    Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:57 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Batman

    In a message dated 1/11/06 7:51:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
    > Fantastic Four wasn't that bad of a movie... Sure a lot better than
    some of them I seen this year...

    -- I agree. Me and my kids all enjoyed it.

    Neil

    Has it ever occurred to you people that by going to these movies you're only encouraging Fox to do more of the same?  You'll never get another APES movie that way.

    -- Rory
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    Group: potadg Message: 35071 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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    I think most of the unique challenges would be in keeping the majotiry of the group's interest!

    I still say we just stick to a Return colouring book and the pretend it does not exist!  :)

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
    Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:56 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > We could do a RETURN story.
    > We could do a TV SHOW environment story.
    > Or something that pairs with the sequels to PLANET.
    > Ideas?

    -- As long as it features 'brains in jars' I don't mind. ;-)

    Seriously though, a Return story sounds interesting and would present
    unique challenges I think.

    Neil




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    Group: potadg Message: 35072 From: Neil Date: 1/11/2006
    Subject: Re: Nice Home Page picture Neil!
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > Nice Home Page picture Neil!

    -- Thanks I felt I had to do something to commemorate becoming
    the 'most posted' Apes group on the planet. If you think about how
    many posts we have had in such a relatively short time it is nothing
    short of phenomenal and all our members have done a wonderful job.

    Thanks everyone!

    Neil
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