.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:02:55 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

As far as I'm concerned.... THEY ALL SUCK!


Now I guess you want me to explain.....



BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE ORIGINAL POSTERS!


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.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:03:08 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I'm hard pressed to find anything in the TV show that don't suck!

Well, how about the fact that they reused clothing/props from the ORIGINAL FILM... At least you can't say that they used items that suck...<.html <.html

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:02:55 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

As far as I'm concerned.... THEY ALL SUCK!


Now I guess you want me to explain.....



BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE ORIGINAL POSTERS!


Well, the original one sheet for PLANET is great, BENEATH and ESCAPE are alright, but face it, CONQUEST and BATTLE's original one sheets S U C K !!!!! Those two NEED better artwork!!! <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:19:02 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

How's Bush going?  :)

He is going DOWNHILL faster than an old lady on an ice slick...<.html <.html

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:03:08 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I'm hard pressed to find anything in the TV show that don't suck!

Well, how about the fact that they reused clothing/props from the ORIGINAL FILM... At least you can't say that they used items that suck...

.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:48:49 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So claiming it was the petition that did it would be kinda....well.....what would be one's motivation?

Well, wasn't this "petition" idea organized by the head of that "other" pota group?

If so, isn't it OBVIOUS as to the motivation... To make himself LOOK GOOD in the eyes of the peons...<.html <.html

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:48:49 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So claiming it was the petition that did it would be kinda....well.....what would be one's motivation?

Well, wasn't this "petition" idea organized by the head of that "other" pota group?

If so, isn't it OBVIOUS as to the motivation... To make himself LOOK GOOD in the eyes of the peons...
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.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 10:06:14 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

AND the pilot was actually pretty good!  Then it kinda slips away.....

The pilot was good, as well as The Gladiators, The Trap, The Legacy, The Tyrant, The Surgeon had it's moments, as did The Cure... .

The ones that TOTALLY suck are The Horserace (too "cartoonsih") and Up Above The World So High...

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 10:06:14 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

AND the pilot was actually pretty good!  Then it kinda slips away.....

The pilot was good, as well as The Gladiators, The Trap, The Legacy, The Tyrant, The Surgeon had it's moments, as did The Cure... .

The ones that TOTALLY suck are The Horserace (too "cartoonsih") and Up Above The World So High...

The rest are watchable, but not favorites... <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 10:24:38 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Hey - stop talking about that and comment on p 19!
 
How about that big foil message thingy!
 
And how about all the ACTION?


Okay!

Yeah, it was nice to see the signal mirror, but unless there's an ape garrison nearby, it seems weird to have one on the outskirts of the city like that... Are you implying that there's an ape base near SF now? Otherwise, if there's no ape civilization close to it, the mirror is pointless, cause there'd be no apes to read it...

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 10:24:38 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Hey - stop talking about that and comment on p 19!
 
How about that big foil message thingy!
 
And how about all the ACTION?


Okay!

Yeah, it was nice to see the signal mirror, but unless there's an ape garrison nearby, it seems weird to have one on the outskirts of the city like that... Are you implying that there's an ape base near SF now? Otherwise, if there's no ape civilization close to it, the mirror is pointless, cause there'd be no apes to read it...<.html

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 10:24:38 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Hey - stop talking about that and comment on p 19!
 
How about that big foil message thingy!
 
And how about all the ACTION?

And yeah, the action is cool, BUT, where did those guys get the ancient firearms? Did they find a vacuum sealed munitions dump nearby? They surely can't have the technology in  their hands to just make things like that... <.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Whitty, Michael

To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:10 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] We did it!!! FOX Releasing Extended Battle on DVD!!!

Hi Tom.

 

VERY different.

 

Essentially, it would be more violent and frightening and less "kiddified".

 

Off the top of my head there's a different musical score, more violent scenes and a different, more brutal speech from Caesar.

 

Anyone help me here.

 

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tshaf37@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] We did it!!! FOX Releasing Extended Battle on DVD!!!

What's so different about the directors cut of conquest? Will it be that different and another ending?

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 5:36:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I'm writing to you to inform you that Fox Movie Channel is running a PLANET OF THE APES sweepstakes this month. Please let your readers know that they may enter once per day through the end of the month for a chance to win. Please visit www.foxmoviechannel.com to enter.

 

You's think after think that after the Walmart movie mix up

they would have this contest during Black History Month.

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> Blimey - that's the sort of thing Mustapha would do! :)

-- Gee hasn't anyone figured out what the story for Going Home is
based on yet? One side a bitter violent, twisted and slightly unstable
rabble the other side an organised, professional, motivated and loyal
army... ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> The ones that TOTALLY suck are The Horserace (too "cartoonsih") and

Up Above The World So High...

-- I actually like The Horserace more than a lot of the others.
One I find really hard to watch these days is The Legacy. I just can't
get past the scene where I noticed the ape flags outside Zaius &
Urko's temporary base in the city being pulled by bits of string to
try to make them look like they are blowing in the non existant breeze!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> AT LAST! SOMEONE NOTICED!
> Neil and I spoke on the phone about this and we were waiting for you

to catch it.

> I'm going to let Neil explain.... :)

-- No really, I think the writer should explain these sort of things...

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , <veetus@...> wrote:

>"They turned out, I think, possibly the most egregious film that they

could have on that subject because they miscast the director. It's the
only Tim Burton film that I don't like".

-- Sounds like us non-creative garbage are not the only ones who
thought it was outrageously bad then.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> Of course I do!
> Paid like $100 for it! What a stupid Aussie....

-- Really? Hey we need to talk, I have this slightly used Harbour
Bridge that would look great in your back yard. I'll even throw in a
shiny Opera House to go with it if you like! Cheap sale! :-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> Hell yes I share your cynicism... I just replied to this "news"

because it was posted to the friends_and_fugitives group... Cynical
isn't the word for it... It had NOTHING to do with the online petition
and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that they were going to release it
anyway and that the "petition" just happened to be started at the time
of the release of it...

-- You tell that to kids these days and they won't believe you...
Now I used to get up half an hour before I went to bed...

Neil ;-)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , <veetus@...> wrote:

> The main things I remember about the original "Conquest" was the

beginning (a chimp is gunned down by police) and the end (Breck is
killed and Caesar's speech ends on "And that day is upon YOOOOOOU,
NOOOOOW!!"; no "We who are not human can afford to be humane" stuff).

-- Did this original version have Lisa saying No? Or was that part of
the added on scene to make it less dark?

neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> I recognise the guy in the bottom right corner fron CURTIS ISSUE

#1!!!

-- I have noticed at least 4 other images that have been copied from
those magazine covers on the various video artworks.

Neil

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.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 11:17:14 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Off the top of my head there's a different musical score, more violent scenes and a different, more brutal speech from Caesar.

No, the score's not a different score, it's just the same score and more! (Check out the CONQUEST soundtrack CD for all of the music that WAS supposed to be used...)

As far as a different speech, again, same thing as in the film, but it was supposed to end at the "And that day is upon you now!!!" line and not have the tacked on bullshit ending...

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.html.html In a message dated 2/7/2006 11:34:12 PM Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:

Essentially, it would be more violent and frightening and less "kiddified".

 
Off the top of my head there's a different musical score, more violent scenes and a different, more brutal speech from Caesar


Any chance this can be found on e-bay?


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.html.html In a message dated 2/8/2006 12:40:48 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Gee hasn't anyone figured out what the story for Going Home is
based on yet? One side a bitter violent, twisted and slightly unstable
rabble the other side an organised, professional, motivated and loyal
army... ;-)

It's based on BATTLE then huh?

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.html.html In a message dated 2/8/2006 1:30:00 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Some Spanish (I think) ones are pretty cool too, especially this Beneath one:

That looked pretty generic... There are guys right here on this group that could design something WAAAY better in their sleep...<.html <.html

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> I had an idea for the group comic project.
> How about we have the same start as Planet up until when Taylor
> decides which way to travel and have him choose the opposite
> direction.
> That way they don't meet the Ape society seen in the film but

could

> end up meeting a totally different group of apes.
>
> Neil
>

Should be a good start, Darkhorse did something similar with their
StarWars comics a few years ago. A small difference in the narrative
early on leads to huge differences down the line. I suppose the
discussion on the group will come down to what type of ape society
Taylor will meet? Will it be totally different or close to the
classic one. Is there much communication across the world? One
thought is ,as Taylor is pretty misanthropic at the start of the
film almost needing something to rage against, what would his
reaction to a more benevolent ape community be? Maybe his behaviour
and actions would not be so heroic and above reproach. Anyway just a
thought, I'm sure we'd both just like to see more Derek Zane
stories :)
As always best Graham.

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So Greg could I maybe tempt you to the dark side if i send you the RENTAL ONLY VHS tapes of the Aussie TV Show?  :)

 

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 2:40 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Apes new DVD release

They're definitely my favorites. I bid on several different VHS sets even though I knew I couldn't play the tapes just to try and get the packaging.

 

I agree with Rory on the movie wraps, though. They should use the original one-sheets.

 

Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Thanks Greg.

 

Would yopu agree these are the best covers we have seen?

 

Onya Greg.

 

You must be nearly half way there?

Nigel

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:22 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com; friends & fugitives
Subject: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 69

 

The latest issue, with part 7 of the Conquest adaptation, is now available to download from Hunter's site.

 

https://pota.goatley.com

 

Thanks,

Greg

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Speaking of Terror, Neil really wants to revisit it!

 

Any ideas?

Michael

 

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I liked the Tv series, ...still do. Sure some of the episodes are
better than others. I like the pilot, the Trap and Gladiators the most,
Deception and Liberators were good too. But, enough about the
past....MORE CHAPTERS IN "GOING HOME"!!!!!!!
:)

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> > I wanted to get back to you and CONFIRM that we will

be releasing

> > the extended version of the Battle for the Planet

of the Apes. The

> > DVD will be available in all versions of our

upcoming releases

> > including the Apes head, the Legacy collection

and as a single disc.

> > Steven Feldstein
> > SVP, Corporate and Marketing

Communications

> > TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX HOME

ENTERTAINMENT

 

People shouldn't fear governments. Governments should fear their people.

- Codename V, V for Vendetta -

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Thanks for the link Michael, but I should warn others here that if you
read the details, the contest is only open to US residents.

Also thanks for pointing out those Aussie TV series covers. They are
great and I've never seen them before.

Neil: Danke for those German Tape covers. They used a lot of existing
art in some creative ways.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2006 6:30 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] FW: Fox Movie Channel PLANET OF THE APES sweepstakes

>
>
> _____
>
> From: Fmc.contactus [Fmc.contactus@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:23 AM
> To: 'PotaDG-owner@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: Fox Movie Channel PLANET OF THE APES sweepstakes
>
>
>
> Dear PotaDG-owner@yahoogroups.com,
> I'm writing to you to inform you that Fox Movie Channel is running
> a PLANET
> OF THE APES sweepstakes this month. Please let your readers know
> that they
> may enter once per day through the end of the month for a chance
> to win.
> Please visit www.foxmoviechannel.com to enter.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>

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When I posted my idea nobody had a thing to say about it. Good, bad
or indifferent. ;)



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

>
> WHO IS WRITING POTA COMICS?
>
> I began writing the WITHIN comic because it didn't matter - this

was a

> "throw away" to keep Neil busy and to generate discussion. It is
> embarrassingly formulaic and stinks of "throw in some mutants", but

you know

> it does seem to work. It ain't Tolstoy, but it was fun and if I

saw it on

> the shelf at a comic store I'd buy it and I'd want more.
>
> Anyone who wants to insult me and wonders why they might be pissing

Neil off

> too - that's probably because we do this as a team. Neil has

rejected

> scripts (both draft and finalised) I have sent him because they had
> problems. I have also suggested layout for a page (p 15 I think?)

and Neil

> completed the comic with PP 20 - 22.
>
> We are constantly looking for more writers so cough up ya

bastards! :)

>
> Michael
>
> From: "shanter2002" <mail@>
> Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 11:35 pm
>
> Wow! Somebody pinch me! Not only have we got the new comic and the

Ultimate

> Apes dvd, with the animated series, but Mike Whitty is writing.It's

just too

> much to take in, particularly as I know he'll totally handle the

third party

> narrative trap that often snags lesser writers.John, Scrolls.
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@>
> wrote:
> > Blimey - that's the sort of thing Mustapha would do! :)
>
> -- Gee hasn't anyone figured out what the story for Going Home is
> based on yet? One side a bitter violent, twisted and slightly

unstable

> rabble the other side an organised, professional, motivated and

loyal

> army... ;-)
>
> Neil
>

Hey. Which one are we? :)

.html.html In a message dated 2/7/06 10:59:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:03:08 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I'm hard pressed to find anything in the TV show that don't suck!

Well, how about the fact that they reused clothing/props from the ORIGINAL FILM... At least you can't say that they used items that suck...


Hey!  The stuff from the first two movies never looked worse than in the TV show!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/7/06 11:06:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It would have been cooler had it shown them making these costumes and explained them a bit better.

If BATTLE and the TV show had had people who really cared about what they were making, they'd have gotten a costume designer to do original clothing instead of just borrowing them from the first two films.

Come on now!  Grow up!  It SUCKED! 

IT..... SUCKED!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/7/06 10:40:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Hell yes I share your cynicism... I just replied to this "news" because it was posted to the friends_and_fugitives group... Cynical isn't the word for it... It had NOTHING to do with the online petition and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that they were going to release it anyway and that the "petition" just happened to be started at the time of the release of it... The "petition" coincided with the release of an item that was surely being manufactured before anyone even began requesting it "online"...

I never signed the petition because I know damn well Fox is going to do whatever it does despite anything fans want.  Personally, I write my letter and then just hope for the best.

I also consider the theatrical cut of BATTLE the offical version, but now that Fox is putting this out, I guess that is history and the story of BATTLE will have to be revised.  But in any case, BATTLE is my least favorite of the original APES films, and I wish it would just fade into obscurity.  But that ain't gonna happen.

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.html.html In a message dated 2/7/06 10:19:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

But really - could you give us some insight into just why Urko sucks?

Urko sucks because the character sucks, he's stupid and badly written, and Mark Lenard plays him as the idiot that he is.  I also think he looks bad in Ursus hand-me-down clothes and that painted helmet.

Now come on!  What's to like?!!!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/7/06 10:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Of course I do!

Paid like $100 for it!  What a stupid Aussie....

Michael


Well, except for the Topps cards, the LP was the first thing I collected from PLANET, back in Oct. of '68, and that cover is the thing I most associate with PLANET, even more than the 1-sheet, which I saw at the theatres, of course, but didn't actually own until I got one in the mid-seventies.

I'm working on a cover for the new PLANET DVD based on the LP cover.

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.html.html In a message dated 2/7/06 11:06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

OK well I'm going to ask Neil real nice what he would do and let's see if it inspires him to demonstrat.

Anyone else want to ask him nicely?

Michael


Finally... something that interests me.  Yes, would Neil very kindly do some sketches of what he'd like the covers of the APES DVDs to look like if he worked for Fox.  He doesn't even have to consider the original advertising posters and such.  This I'd like to see.

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.html.html In a message dated 2/7/06 10:57:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Well, the original one sheet for PLANET is great, BENEATH and ESCAPE are alright, but face it, CONQUEST and BATTLE's original one sheets S U C K !!!!! Those two NEED better artwork!!!

I don't think CONQUEST sucks, but BATTLE, yes, that 1-sheet does suck -- but then no worse than the movie!  My point is that these were the original advertising images.  Being the Chief Defender of the Faith here I can only repeat what I've said before -- stick with the originals.

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.html.html In a message dated 2/8/06 12:17:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Hi Tom.

VERY different.

Essentially, it would be more violent and frightening and less "kiddified".

Off the top of my head there's a different musical score, more violent scenes and a different, more brutal speech from Caesar.

Anyone help me here.

Michael

The musical score is the same, only what we now have is an edited version of it.  Extra cues are on the CD from Film Score Monthly.

Basically, the original cut was a darker, more violent film with a downbeat and even unpleasant ending.  I suggest reading the novelization to get an idea of what it was like.

-- Rory
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.html.html In a message dated 2/8/06 12:31:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

This brought back memories of another project Cameron tried to get going for Fox...POTA. Says he:

  "I had a great idea with "Planet of the Apes", but it was Fox's asset. Even though I was supposedly developing it we didn't see eye to eye and they sort of picked up their marbles and that was that. They turned out, I think, possibly the most egregious film that they could have on that subject because they miscast the director. It's the only Tim Burton film that I don't like".

I went and looked up the word "egregious."  It means "outstanding in bad or evil qualities."

I prefer my term...

IT SUCKED!

-- Rory
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.html.html In a message dated 2/8/06 12:31:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

It still blows my mind that Fox spent a decade turning down the ideas of guys like Cameron and Oliver Stone (and, apparently, what Burton REALLY wanted to do). What exactly was Fox's idea that was so precious.

All you have to do is go read Jane Hamsher's book "Killer Instinct" and find out how the whole "re-imagining" thing started to know how ill-conceived and totally wrong and wicked it all was.  The problem is that those who are executives at the studios simply aren't filmmakers, they're mostly spoiled rich-boys just out of Ivy League schools and just looking to make their first million.  It's easier to make your money producing crap that a gullible public will buy than it is something of quality, so crap is what we get.

This is one of the reasons I've decided I'm definitely not buying that damn Ultimate head thing!

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.html.html In a message dated 2/8/06 12:27:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

The main things I remember about the original "Conquest" was the beginning (a chimp is gunned down by police) and the end (Breck is killed and Caesar's speech ends on "And that day is upon YOOOOOOU, NOOOOOW!!"; no "We who are not human can afford to be humane" stuff).  - - - Jeff

One of the things that kind of makes CONQUEST "tasteless" is that it's such an obvious analogy to racist White's fears of a Black takeover of society.  The original cut's final line, "And that day is upon you NOOOOW!" is supposed to leave the audience feeling what?  "Look out!  The Blacks might take over any minute and you'll be killed!"  I think that's what some at the studio felt, or al least the negative reaction of the preview audience of kids and their mothers had them fear would be the message.  And so violence was cut and the ending was altered and softened.

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.html.html In a message dated 2/8/06 1:40:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Gee hasn't anyone figured out what the story for Going Home is
based on yet? One side a bitter violent, twisted and slightly unstable
rabble the other side an organised, professional, motivated and loyal
army... ;-)

Neil

And which side do you think will survive this evolutionary "Battle for the Survival of the Fittest"?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/8/06 2:41:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Like that Rory?

Michael

The Spanish cover for BENEATH?  Yeah, that's a good one.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-- This one for Planet would have been good as well except for some reason they plonked part of a Beneath poster on top of the Planet one!:

Nothing makes me madder than when images from BENEATH slip into covers for PLANET, but it's been happening for years.  Usually any shot of Taylor and Nova on a horse in a PLANET cover is actually from BENEATH.

The 35th Anniversary covers for PLANET actually featured mostly images from BENEATH!  I don't look at it.  I promptly made up my own cover, put that in a case and just put the two DVDs into that, which is exactly what I'm going to do with the new releases.  Those lousy covers just get put into the closet.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> The latest issue, with part 7 of the Conquest adaptation, is now

available to download from Hunter's site.

> Thanks,
> Greg

-- Thanks Greg! (echo, echo...)

Neil

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> Here's that original ad again!

-- Thanks for that Rory. I have uploaded a copy of it to the Files
section.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> Here's that original ad again!

-- Thanks for that Rory. I have uploaded a copy of it to the Files
section.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> There's an odd thing written after the Cartoon series announcement.
> Something about some "restored" version coming out later. I'm
> beginning to suspect
> there's something that stinks about this Ultimate edition.

-- Yeah this had me scratching my head as well. Does this mean they
have rushed out a copy of the cartoons to include in the 'Ultimate'
package as a last minute decision and will be working on a better
version for future release? Very strange.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> There's an odd thing written after the Cartoon series announcement. 
> Something about some "restored" version coming out later.  I'm
> beginning to suspect
> there's something that stinks about this Ultimate edition.

-- Yeah this had me scratching my head as well. Does this mean they
have rushed out a copy of the cartoons to include in the 'Ultimate'
package as a last minute decision and will be working on a better
version for future release? Very strange.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> OK - I'll come clean.
> I petitioned them for a "restored" version.
> They are releasing a copy of Hunter's until then (I sent that in to

them).

-- Wow, you're the (Ape) man! Congratulations Dude!

Very, very well done,

Pleb

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> OK - I'll come clean. 
> I petitioned them for a "restored" version.
> They are releasing

a copy of Hunter's until then (I sent that in to
them).

-- Wow, you're the (Ape) man! Congratulations Dude!

Very, very well done,

Pleb<.html

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In a message dated 2/7/06 10:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Of course I do!

Paid like $100 for it!  What a stupid Aussie....

Michael


Well, except for the Topps cards, the LP was the first thing I collected from PLANET, back in Oct. of '68, and that cover is the thing I most associate with PLANET, even more than the 1-sheet, which I saw at the theatres, of course, but didn't actually own until I got one in the mid-seventies.

I'm working on a cover for the new PLANET DVD based on the LP cover.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> Urko sucks!

Gee Rory I almost thought you were going to have something interesting
to say here but obviously not. So are you going to explain to everyone
why you think "Urko sucks!" then?

As far as I am concerned these sort of replies are getting tedious and
as it is now my call alone you need to know that you won't be allowed
to keep doing it.

Neil 

 I think there are a few humans on pota that may feel that Urko sucks. It would be nice to have a more extended answer on why they feel that way. Elaine

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In a message dated 2/7/06 11:06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

OK well I'm going to ask Neil real nice what he would do and let's see if it inspires him to demonstrat.

Anyone else want to ask him nicely?

Michael


Finally... something that interests me.  Yes, would Neil very kindly do some sketches of what he'd like the covers of the APES DVDs to look like if he worked for Fox.  He doesn't even have to consider the original advertising posters and such.  This I'd like to see.

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When I posted my idea nobody had a thing to say about it. Good, bad
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

>
> WHO IS

WRITING POTA COMICS?

>
> I began writing the WITHIN comic because

it didn't matter - this
was a

> "throw away" to keep Neil busy and to

generate discussion.  It is

> embarrassingly formulaic and stinks of

"throw in some mutants", but
you know

> it does seem to work.  It

ain't Tolstoy, but it was fun and if I
saw it on

> the shelf at a

comic store I'd buy it and I'd want more.

>
> Anyone who wants to

insult me and wonders why they might be pissing
Neil off

> too -

that's probably because we do this as a team.  Neil has
rejected

> scripts (both draft and finalised) I have sent him because

they had

> problems.  I have also suggested layout for a page (p 15 I

think?)
and Neil

> completed the comic with PP 20 - 22.
>
> We are constantly looking for more writers so cough up ya

bastards! :)

>
> Michael
>
> From: "shanter2002"

<mail@>

> Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006  11:35 pm
>
> Wow!

Somebody pinch me! Not only have we got the new comic and the
Ultimate

> Apes dvd, with the animated series, but Mike Whitty is

writing.It's
just too

> much to take in, particularly as I know he'll

totally handle the
third party

> narrative trap that often snags

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I had an idea for the group comic project.
How about we have the same start as Planet up until when Taylor
decides which way to travel and have him choose the opposite
direction.
That way they don't meet the Ape society seen in the film but could
end up meeting a totally different group of apes.

Neil

 Sounds like a great idea. Taylor's life could turn out differently. Elaine

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"

<Michael.Whitty@>

> wrote:
> > Blimey - that's the sort of

thing Mustapha would do!  :)

>
> -- Gee hasn't anyone figured

out what the story for Going Home is

> based on yet? One side a bitter

violent, twisted and slightly
unstable

> rabble the other side an

organised, professional, motivated and
loyal

> army... ;-)
>
> Neil
>

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In a message dated 2/7/06 10:59:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

In a message dated 2/7/2006 9:03:08 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I'm hard pressed to find anything in the TV show that don't suck!

Well, how about the fact that they reused clothing/props from the ORIGINAL FILM... At least you can't say that they used items that suck...


Hey!  The stuff from the first two movies never looked worse than in the TV show!

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I know Rory is well versed in the history of VHS (and Beta?) releases of POTA.

 

I nearly burst when I saw an ad in a US magazine for the first release of PLANET and.....I think ALL the sequels (Rory?).  Anyway, I begged my father to get them.

 

He sent a personal cheque to the USA and we waited.

 

After two months we phoned the USA and got some bad news:

 

The cheque was not in US Dollars and the VHS (or Beta actually) tape would not play in Australia!

 

So it took me until 1994 to own the 5 movies on tape.

 

Hey - let's list the top 5 ways we "experienced" PLANET OF THE APES as kids!

(1) POWER RECORDS

(2) CURTIS MAGAZINES

(3) CASSETTE TAPE FROM THE TV AIRINGS

(4) TOYS AND COLLECTIBLES

(5) BOOKS AND OTHER MAGAZINES

 

How about the rest of you?

 

Michael

1. movies 2. tv show 3. books 4. action figures 5. cartoon Elaine

  

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In a message dated 2/7/06 10:40:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Hell yes I share your cynicism... I just replied to this "news" because it was posted to the friends_and_fugitives group... Cynical isn't the word for it... It had NOTHING to do with the online petition and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that they were going to release it anyway and that the "petition" just happened to be started at the time of the release of it... The "petition" coincided with the release of an item that was surely being manufactured before anyone even began requesting it "online"...

I never signed the petition because I know damn well Fox is going to do whatever it does despite anything fans want.  Personally, I write my letter and then just hope for the best.

I also consider the theatrical cut of BATTLE the offical version, but now that Fox is putting this out, I guess that is history and the story of BATTLE will have to be revised.  But in any case, BATTLE is my least favorite of the original APES films, and I wish it would just fade into obscurity.  But that ain't gonna happen.

-- Rory

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WHO IS WRITING POTA COMICS?

I began writing the WITHIN comic because it didn't matter - this was a
"throw away" to keep Neil busy and to generate discussion.  It is
embarrassingly formulaic and stinks of "throw in some mutants", but you know
it does seem to work.  It ain't Tolstoy, but it was fun and if I saw it on
the shelf at a comic store I'd buy it and I'd want more.

Anyone who wants to insult me and wonders why they might be pissing Neil off
too - that's probably because we do this as a team.  Neil has rejected
scripts (both draft and finalised) I have sent him because they had
problems.  I have also suggested layout for a page (p 15 I think?) and Neil
completed the comic with PP 20 - 22.

We are constantly looking for more writers so cough up ya bastards! :)

Michael

 I have a million ideas for stories but I believe you would rather work with males and my ideas maybe too offbeat. Elaine

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I had an idea for the group comic project.
How about we have the same start as Planet up until when Taylor
decides which way to travel and have him choose the opposite
direction.
That way they don't meet the Ape society seen in the film but could
end up meeting a totally different group of apes.

Neil

 Sounds like a great idea. Taylor's life could turn out differently. Elaine

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@... wrote:

> Sounds like a great idea. Taylor's life could turn out differently.

-- The astronauts could meet up with a bunch of more advanced humans
who have heard about those pesky human hating apes who live on the
other side of the desert and with Taylor's help they make plans to
attack and wipe them out. ;-)

Another thought I had is what could have happened if the astros had
met the Mutants first?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> OK Neil I have something here for you as "payment" if you do this.
> You motivated?
> Could we start with some loose thumbnails then discuss the various
> components as a group?

-- Sure, okay then. I'll start thinking about this today and see what
images I can come up with in my head.
As soon as something pops up in there and slowly makes the tortured
journey down my arm to my hand and then from there through my pencil
onto one of those dreaded blank white paper pages I will let you know
and upload what transpires to the group for comment.

Neil

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WHO IS WRITING POTA COMICS?

I began writing the WITHIN comic because it didn't matter - this was a
"throw away" to keep Neil busy and to generate discussion.  It is
embarrassingly formulaic and stinks of "throw in some mutants", but you know
it does seem to work.  It ain't Tolstoy, but it was fun and if I saw it on
the shelf at a comic store I'd buy it and I'd want more.

Anyone who wants to insult me and wonders why they might be pissing Neil off
too - that's probably because we do this as a team.  Neil has rejected
scripts (both draft and finalised) I have sent him because they had
problems.  I have also suggested layout for a page (p 15 I think?) and Neil
completed the comic with PP 20 - 22.

We are constantly looking for more writers so cough up ya bastards! :)

M ichael

 I have a million ideas for stories but I believe you would rather work with males and my ideas maybe too offbeat. Elaine

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Do you have the 25th Anniversary VHS?  The ENGLISH one I think it was......the first WIDESCREEN VHS?

Yes, I have that.  Elements of the British quad poster were used for the cover.

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