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From: Haristas@...
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:43 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA Collection TV Show Petition!

>
> Send frequent emails to steve.feldstein@...
>
> Make out your lists, check 'em twice, then bombard this guy with
> incessant,
> pesky emails!
>
> Fight like apes, you bloody baboons!
>

>
> They sure did Ty!
>
> Michael
>
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> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

> Of Ty Templeton
> Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 4:13 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ty was right!
>
> Hah! Ty is ALWAYS right, it's a curse, really.
>
> Anyway, as I said before, when mentioning this comic, it's not a
> particularly visual story, or filled with the sort of burning

> and shooting that a comic book story needs. There are certain

> of the genre that the Boulle novel lack, and I've never thought it

> make a particularly good comic story. Much like 2001 would make a

> comic. As would Hitchhiker's Guide....oh, wait, didn't they make

> comics out of both of those books?

> Yeah. Thats right. Bombard the guy that has some clout to give us
> everything we want. Send 'Pesky' emails. He'll just love us then!

> Oh I don't know I'm quite fond of the Kirby 2001 movie tabloid (
> wouldn't say it was good though, interesting may be...)

> ....the style
> is cool and accurate (except for Zira's burgandy
> clothes!)

> These look great Ty! Can't wait to get #3!! You know
> we will all be disappointed when #6 comes.......we
> will want more...

> Hey - he heard about a petition for Extended Battle with only 126
> signatures and moved mountains to suddenly produce the goods! He
> can do ANYTHING!

On 3/13/06, Neil < nfoster@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> These look great Ty! Can't wait to get #3!! You know
> we will all be disappointed when #6 comes.......we
> will want more...

-- We will get more, well sort of. Didn't Ty say a while back that
they were going to collect these issues into a Graphic Novel with
extra stuff added as well?

Neil

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> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@> wrote:
> > Oh I don't know I'm quite fond of the Kirby 2001 movie tabloid (
> > wouldn't say it was good though, interesting may be...)
>
> -- Well like I said earlier I certainly didn't think it was lousy, I
> also liked the short lived ongoing series that Marvel did in the

> as well. Maybe it is just because I have always been a Kirby nut
> though and that clouds my judgement.
>
> Neil
>

> That would be because they were drawn from photos.

> WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?!!!
> IT SUCKS!
> HUNGARIAN?!!!!
> WHY NOT YUGOSLOVIAN OR HOW ABOUT SOME BULGARIAN?!!!!

> And, how come in comics no one ever goes to the bathroom? Talk about
> fantasies!

> In a message dated 3/13/06 4:22:01 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> nfoster@... writes:
>
>
> > Funnily enough I have always thought myself that
> the art in
> > most of the parodies (MAD etc.) was much better
> and more faithful than
> > most of the other (serious) comic adaptations.
> >
> > Neil
> >
>
> That would be because they were drawn from photos.
>

On 3/13/06, Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

Hey Ty,

 

Any comments on these comments from Joe?

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph O'Brien <job@...>
Cc: 'Ty Templeton' <tybunny@...>
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:33:53 -0500
Subject: RE: Questions

Sorry about the delay in getting these back to you.  Glad to hear you guys are enjoying the comics. 

Cheers,

Joe

--

www.joseph-obrien.com

Here are some of the questions members emailed and IMed me last night. I apologize if some of these topics were already covered in the chat.  

Will this series be collected for a trade paperback, and, if so, will there be any extras?

The plan right now is for a trade paperback of the first six.  I hope there are extras ? galleries and sketches and stuff

Yup.  That's the plans.  We have a ton of "extras" stuff already, and we're only finished the first three issues.  (#4 is yet to be coloured, but it's all drawn!)

 

How hopeful can we be of more series?

Entirely dependent on sales.  We?d love to do more, and there are always more stories to tell in the APES universe. 

This sounds like a plug, but nowadays, ALL the eggs seem to go into the graphic novel basket.  Many series live and die on the sales of the graphic novels.  They seem to get into more outlets (bookstores, variety stores, etc.) than regular comics do...and we're looking to see what kind of numbers the novel does.  So the answer is...we hope it does well enough to warrant another six issues.  We're all having enough fun that the fingers remain permanently crossed.
 

Have you seen the Extended version of BATTLE and did it influence your story at all?

Well, I?ve seen it now, thanks to you J   I hadn?t seen it when we started working on the series, but I was aware of the elements that were cut.  They did have some influence on the development of the plot, but you?ll have to wait until issue five (which I?m writing now) to see how all those elements come into play. 

No, I haven't seen the extended version of Battle.  Joe's told me about the extra scenes ,but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.  I went through a marathon of Apes movies, shows and comics just before we started seriously plotting our own Mr. Comics series, so that I was completely familiar with the source material, but I haven't gone back into the serious research mode since we started, and this version wasn't available to me earlier.  (Although, aren't there missing scenes in Behind the Planet of the Apes from all five movies? I might be wrong about this...)

How much freedom did you have with your scripts---Marvel seem to have had some problems with clearing certain things with Fox.

The only things that Fox has asked us to tone down are language and violence; they?re adamant that APES remain a PG, family-friendly franchise.  We also don?t have clearance for actor?s likenesses, but that doesn?t affect me at a script level. 

That's correct.  They've been very very nice to us at Fox, and the only change they've really been strong about is brutal violence "on panel".  Nobody gets their arms ripped off, or skull crushed ON panel....though there's quite a bit of that sort of thing implied all through our story.  Personally, I prefer the Apes to be true to their original "feel" and wouldn't WANT to include NC-17 elements to the stories, but they have asked us twice to tone down a particularly violent moment.  *(Both scenes remain intact from the script, by the way, we just had our artist "pull away" from the viscera a bit.)

Please, please, please can we have at least one short story based on the TV Series!

No no no.  But thanks for asking politely. 

The TV show has a very different reputation in North America than it seems to have on the British side of the pond.   While I'm perfectly happy to consider the TV show as cannon, there's no particular need to visit that era in our storyline.  We're telling the story of Caesar's early days of his reign, and that keeps us firmly in the world of the movies.

Was black and white ever considered or was it always going to be a color book?

More of a Ty question, but as far as I know we never considered going B&W.  It was always conceived as a colour book. 

Never considered it at the beginning, but every now and then, I see some of the pages we get from Salgood Sam, and they're SO pretty in black and white, that I'm tempted to run one of his stories in black and white, for nostalgia's sake.  I darn near did that with his back up story in #3 (which was GORGEOUS in black and white) until I saw how #@)(*$# gorgeous it became in colour!

Would you be allowed to re-visit the Marvel sagas, Terror and Future History Chronicles,or would that be outside your license?

I suspect it would be outside our license, but we?re more interested in striking our own unique interpretation of the APES saga, rather than dealing with someone else?s.  So far, the response to our take has been overwhelmingly positive. 

Believe it or not, I think we WOULD be allowed to revisit their characters, but I'm not that interested in doing that, since it would require a certain level of extra-fandom from any new readers that would be above and beyond the call of duty, no? 

Did you ever see the Malibu/Adventure series, which, for all its faults, ran for 24 regular issues and several mini series?

We looked at pretty much ever comics incarnation of APES before us. 

I have about half of that run, and most of the mini-series they did after the run.  Kent Burles used to be a neighbour, and we'd run into each other all the time, so I was very aware of the series at first.  ( I think it's possible I inked some pages of a Planet of the Apes story for Adventure to help someone out with deadlines at some point.  We used to do that sort of thing for each other all the time in those days.  My memory is pretty clear about inking a Planet of the Apes story somewhere...I think to help out my roommate Jan, who was an inker for Adventure at the time...)

Will we see Ty Templeton's art on any of these strips---your work on Spider-Man-Human Torch(especially your rendition of Black Cat!) has left us panting for more!

I keep pushing him to do a story, but between editing my scripts, writing the backups and overseeing production on every issue (not to mention his regular work for Marvel, DC and THE SIMPSONS comics), there?s not much time left in the day.  Maybe if he ate and slept at the same time . . .

Perhaps, perhaps.  I might have the time to draw one of the last two back up stories.  We've already got the WONDERFUL art in for the #4 back up by Sam Agro (TNMT, Looney Tunes, Really Odd Tales) and have assigned the art for #5...so if I have the time, I'll try to draw #6 (which is a fun, sort of "wrap up" back up story.)

 

Do you have any idea how grateful us Apes fans are to you guys for bringing Apes back?

Do you have any idea how grateful we are that you?re reading it?  And LIKING it?

I've said it before.  Planet of the Apes is my favorite film series.  Some folks love the Star Wars, or the James Bonds, or the Pink Panthers of this world.  But I'm crazy for the Apes.  (All six movies, too!)   I'd be doing this for free.
 

How did Metallic Rose start?

We planted a metallic bud. 

Sheesh!

Whose idea was it to do a POTA comic?

It was Ty?s initial suggestion, I think.  We were looking at various licenses, and that one really struck a chord.

Close, actually.  It was the publisher's suggestion, but when he asked my opinion, I told him that I couldn't be impartial about it, since I was such a fan of the Apes movies. I believe my quote to Steve (our publisher) was, "It's your decision, but I will crawl through glass to get to work on this title if you pick it up."  It's possible that Steve picked up the license because of my enthusiasm, but at the same time, I wanted to make sure any POTA comic coming out wasn't a disappointmen. 

How did they sell 20th on the idea?

Again, Ty question. 

I put together a list of creators who I had contacted (along with samples of their work)  PLUS  I created a pitch package of script ideas, and some art, showing the direction Mr. Comics wanted to go.  We went back and forth a bit on direction, and settled on a deal.  Mostly, we went into Fox with good ideas and professional name creators.  Not that complex a story.
 

How was the talent assembled?

Ty?s rolodex.  He hired people he knew whose work he liked. 

Dat's it.

Why did they choose the timeframe between "Conquest" and "Battle"?

It?s the great untold story of the APES saga.  I can?t believe no one tackled it before!

Again, dat's it.  But more to the point, it was the best chance to tell a story that we could set in a world that a modern reader would recognize.  That era seemed like the most comfortable fit.

How will they decide whether or not they do more POTA comics after this series?

It all comes down to sales.  SO GET OUT THERE AND BUY THIS COMIC!

How easy (or difficult) was it to obtain the POTA licence?

Ty question for sure. 

Do FOX have much of a say in what you can and cannot do?

Fox has complete oversight on everything we do.  They approve everything with the APES logo on it.  They?re Fox?s toys; we just get to play with them. 

They've been pretty good about it.  We had a bit of a side story going that worked Thade into the meta story of the whole Apes universe, and at first they liked it, but then they changed their minds.  Other than that, they've been great!  No editorial problems to speak of, other than the usual give and take.
 

Has there ever been any hint from FOX of new APES projects (other than your own) being in development

Well, they?re quite supportive of the franchise (see the mega-DVD box set coming out later this year).  But I don?t know if they?re planning on making more movies or anything ? the last time they tried it things didn?t work out so well. 

Who are Mr Comics and how are they different from Metallic Rose?

MR Comics is a division of Metallic Rose. 

Is ?Revolution? still set in an alternate version of the 90?s?

It?s set in an alternate present consistent with CONQUEST, with bits added.  We know so much more about the 90s now than we did in the 70s, don?t you think?  Anyway, no matter when they?re set, all the APES movies are about us, right now.  They?re political and social satire, and that?s been the aspect of the series we?ve tried to stay most true to. 

Yeah, basically, it's the same universe as the ones you see in the Apes films, except we have the internet, and cable TV and a highly politicized America.  These are things that don't expressly DENY the universe of the movies, but bring the story closer to our world of the nineties and 21st Century than the fourth movie was.
 

Can you give any hints for what may be in the pipeline
 

Nope.  It?s a secret.  You have to buy issues 3-6. 

You helped resurrect the RoboCop franchise for TV - Have you any similar plans for APES?

It?s not my call, but if someone offered me the gig I?d take it in a heartbeat.  I like monkeys. 

Yeah.  That would be fun.   Imagine Joe and I writing a POTA TV show?  Like the new Battlestar Galactica, only with gorillas instead of Cylons.  You wanna pitch it, Mr. O'Brien?

Cheers,

Joe

All in the Family,

Ty

 

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> You can definitely tell this Gold Key Beneath comic
> was drawn from photos.....likenesses are prett
> good....Brent looks like Franciscus and Cornelius even
> looks like David Watson not Roddy!

> We also don?t have clearance for actor?s likenesses, but
> that doesn?t affect me at a script level.

> OK. I'll put that down in my book, "Things to Ponder When You're

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil <nfoster@...>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:46 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ty was right!

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@...> wrote:
> > Oh I don't know I'm quite fond of the Kirby 2001 movie tabloid (
> > wouldn't say it was good though, interesting may be...)
>
> -- Well like I said earlier I certainly didn't think it was lousy,
> I
> also liked the short lived ongoing series that Marvel did in the
> 70's
> as well. Maybe it is just because I have always been a Kirby nut
> though and that clouds my judgement.
>
> Neil
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> Michael Jackson To Make Cameo In New Planet Of The Apes Film.

--------- Original Message --------
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Ty was right!
Date: 15/03/06 20:22

I lost the transition from the initial thread to talking about "Kirby".

We talking Jack Kirby here?

If so, I just wanted to note that I'm currently reading "Tales to
Astonish" (no it's not an Science Fiction book) which is essentially
about Jack Kirby history, expecially the Marvel years. As it so
happens I'm also reading the very few Kamandi comics I own.
It's been mentioned before but is worth repeating that there is SO
much to the Kamandi story that is basically 'repackaged' POTA.  I
haven't gotten around to that era in the book yet, but I'm hoping it
will shed some light as to what inspired Jack when he was doing
Kamandi.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil <nfoster@...>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:46 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ty was right!

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@...> wrote:
> > Oh I don't know I'm quite fond of the Kirby 2001 movie tabloid (
> > wouldn't say it was good though, interesting may be...)
>
> -- Well like I said earlier I certainly didn't think it was lousy,
> I
> also liked the short lived ongoing series that Marvel did in the
> 70's
> as well. Maybe it is just because I have always been a Kirby nut
> though and that clouds my judgement.
>
> Neil
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> I haven't gotten around to that era in the book yet, but I'm hoping

> I remember them saying they couldn't draw Heston or any of the other

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> I remember them saying they couldn't draw Heston or any of the other
humans...

-- Yes but was that his choice, Marvel's or Fox's?
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Heston didn't let Mego use his
likeness? I'm sure we have some action figure experts who know if this
is true or not?

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil" <nfoster@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:55 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comments from Joseph O'Brien.


> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> > I remember them saying they couldn't draw Heston or any of the other
> humans...
>
> -- Yes but was that his choice, Marvel's or Fox's?
> I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Heston didn't let Mego use his
> likeness? I'm sure we have some action figure experts who know if this
> is true or not?
>
> Neil
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> I don't think they even asked Heston. They
> probably just played it safe.
> Or maybe they did. Mego was probably the first
> company to do celebrity
> figures like Cher, Joe Namath, Fonzie and the cast
> of "Star Trek". But since
> most of the cast were apes, maybe they didn't think
> a Heston likeness was
> important. I think they had the rights to the
> likenesses of the TV show
> actors as part of the contract. The main
> merchandising was TV show related
> and Booth told me the actors had a merchandising
> agreement (though he never
> saw any money). - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil" <nfoster@...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:55 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comments from Joseph O'Brien.
>
>
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@...
> wrote:
> > > I remember them saying they couldn't draw Heston
> or any of the other
> > humans...
> >
> > -- Yes but was that his choice, Marvel's or Fox's?
> > I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Heston
> didn't let Mego use his
> > likeness? I'm sure we have some action figure
> experts who know if this
> > is true or not?
> >
> > Neil
> >
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>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@> wrote:
> > I haven't gotten around to that era in the book yet, but I'm

> it will shed some light as to what inspired Jack when he was doing
> Kamandi.
>
> -- Well if it does mention anything please let us know Dario. I do
> remember reading an interview with him many years ago and he was

> if Kamandi was inspired by POTA and Kirby categorically denied

> was. I find myself somewhat unable to believe this though seeing

> had the mute 'animal' humans and even had the tigers worshiping a

> in the first issue!
>

----- Original Message -----
From: hill19652000 <shop@...>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:16 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ty was right!

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@> wrote:
> > > I haven't gotten around to that era in the book yet, but I'm
> hoping
> > it will shed some light as to what inspired Jack when he was
> doing
> > Kamandi.
> >
> > -- Well if it does mention anything please let us know Dario. I
> do
> > remember reading an interview with him many years ago and he was
> asked
> > if Kamandi was inspired by POTA and Kirby categorically denied
> that it
> > was. I find myself somewhat unable to believe this though seeing
> as he
> > had the mute 'animal' humans and even had the tigers worshiping
> a
> bomb
> > in the first issue!
> >
>
>
> I seem to remember reading somewhere (probably the Jack Kirby
> collector ) that after the end of Kirby's New gods Carmine
> Infantino
> (DC comics publisher at the time), noting that Apes was popular
> asked him to come up with a similar concept and provided him with
> a
> lot of the early ideas. Infantino has in the past stated that he
> was
> the creator of Kamandi. Now this was always denied by Kirby and
> the
> name Kamandi certainly came from an old newspaper strip that he
> created in the 50's but had failed to sell. As you say Neil the
> similarity, to certain concepts in POTA, are striking, lets not
> forget the Statue Of Liberty on the cover of the first issue !!
>
> Best Graham.
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