I think you all missed my point. I AM TRULY INTERESTED!!!! I just am
limited to what I can say about a story I know little about. My point
was to try and let you see that some of us are paying attention, even
if we have nothing to add.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/6/2006 4:52:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> DrZaiusDavis@... writes:
>
> Most of us don't KNOW what the story is and I understand not
wanting to ruin
> any
> surprises but you can't be upset if we don't chime in on every
panel.
>
>
>
> I'd like to see a (show of hands) so to speak,
> of those interested in the comic. I wouldn't
> expect Neil to spend a lot of time doing a
> bunch of detailed panels on a strip with
> limited interest. I understand that you
> can't comment on a story you haven't
> seen much of. But even though the
> working title is called, Young Doctor
> Zira, all the Pre-Taylor characters
> are included in the storyline, with
> what was going on with Cornelius,
> Milo, Zaius, and the rest, in it. But
> if the interest isn't there he might
> as well release it, more or less,
> as is. And then I won't have to
> bother with writing a Part 2.
>

I was trying to let you know that some of us are out here and not to
get discouraged by the lack of discussion at this point. It seems to
have totally backfired.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 4/6/2006 5:04:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> nfoster@... writes:
>
> All we asked for this time was group involvement in the story and
we
> didn't get it, not that we should have been suprised by that.
>
>
>
> I have no idea . . .
> I thought there was more interest than this.
> But if we don't hear something soon I say
> throw some shading in here and there and
> release it. No point in busting a gut over a
> story no one cares about. Why bother.
>

.html.html In a message dated 4/6/2006 4:32:25 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

FOX CLASSIC just showed a POTA marathon in Brasil.

 

Apparently ALL movies had deleted scenes placed!



Whitty,

Where did you hear this from, Adami? Also, regardless of who the source was, did he/she tape them and were they dubbed over or in English?<.html <.html

.html.html I haven't commented on the young Zira story because, truthfully, it is the only group originated story that I just don't have any feeling for one way or the other....<.html<.html

Tom Fowler art begins in issue #3, yes.  But we wouldn't deprive anyone of Salgood Sam either, so Sam does the backup story while Tom takes over the front.  (Caesar and Armando in the circus!)

I don't know what's going on with the white marks on the cover, though.  I've gotten a couple of copies, and everything was clean and fine....

Ty

On 4/6/06, Neil < nfoster@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> I just read #3 as well and enjoyed it thouroughly!
> THANKS TY!!! another great job!

-- Can't wait to see it, this is the issue with the Tom Fowler art
isn't it?

Neil

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No spots on the 3 I have so far!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
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> Tom Fowler art begins in issue #3, yes. But we wouldn't deprive
anyone of
> Salgood Sam either, so Sam does the backup story while Tom takes
over the
> front. (Caesar and Armando in the circus!)
>
> I don't know what's going on with the white marks on the cover,
though.
> I've gotten a couple of copies, and everything was clean and
fine....
>
> Ty
>
> On 4/6/06, Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@>
wrote:
> > > I just read #3 as well and enjoyed it thouroughly!
> > > THANKS TY!!! another great job!
> >
> > -- Can't wait to see it, this is the issue with the Tom Fowler art
> > isn't it?
> >
> > Neil
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Great work.

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>From: "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...>
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>all set. Looking forward to seeing more.
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In a message dated 4/6/2006 7:56:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I wasn't complaining. I just wanted you to understand why the interaction may
have been disappointing.

 

Neil gets paid with praise and he needs a raise

so pile it on thick and don't skimp on the condiments

. . . I mean compliments.  I love culinary reference humor.

 

 

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Wow!  Color!

I'm always blown away by your stuff Neil!

I especially like the sun and backlit effect!

 

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-- Took a while but finally got one done:

 

 

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In a message dated 4/7/2006 8:26:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, urko3085@... writes:

strips or stick figures on cocktail napkins.

 

Yes Neil, could you please print me up two dozen cocktail

napkins.  And I would also like the story made into a diorama

mad out of swizzle sticks, toothpicks and cocktail wienies.

 

 

T

 

 

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Maybe it was just the batch that got delivered to
North carolina.....glad it's not on all of them!

--- mike_oz2005 <whitty@...> wrote:

> No spots on the 3 I have so far!
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton"
> <tybunny@...> wrote:
> >
> > Tom Fowler art begins in issue #3, yes. But we
> wouldn't deprive
> anyone of
> > Salgood Sam either, so Sam does the backup story
> while Tom takes
> over the
> > front. (Caesar and Armando in the circus!)
> >
> > I don't know what's going on with the white marks
> on the cover,
> though.
> > I've gotten a couple of copies, and everything was
> clean and
> fine....
> >
> > Ty
> >
> > On 4/6/06, Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@>
> wrote:
> > > > I just read #3 as well and enjoyed it
> thouroughly!
> > > > THANKS TY!!! another great job!
> > >
> > > -- Can't wait to see it, this is the issue with
> the Tom Fowler art
> > > isn't it?
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>
> It is strange that he refers to "two space-voyagers" in Boulle's
> original novel, when in fact there were three: Antelle, Levain, and
> Ulysse Merou. Ah, well... Dehn was prone to flubs!
>
> He was talking about the two chimps in the beginning and end!

*** He wrote: "In the book two space-voyagers (far be it from me to
reveal their identity!) travel to the planet Betelgeuse, which
resembles Earth except in one vital particular." etc.

You're partly right: he was referring to Jinn & Phyllis --
mistakenly. They, if you'll recall, were not traveling to "the planet
Betelgeuse" but, rather, were flying around in outer space where they
happened upon Ulysse Merou's message-in-a-bottle describing the
voyage he took with Antelle & Levain to the planet Soror which orbits
Betelgeuse.

I get the feeling that Dehn had not read Boulle's novel more than
once and hadn't read it in quite some time before he penned this
little preface -- the fact that he makes several goofs regarding its
details is proof enough of that. The first part of that sentence
quoted above sure sounds like he's describing Jinn & Phyllis... but
then he morphs those characters with the protagonist(s) of the main
part of the book -- Ulysse et al., who were the ones who traveled
from Earth to Betelgeuse's habitable planet, Soror.

I'm surprised that nobody prepping that edition for the press noticed
the mistake. Don't editors READ the books they're planning on
publishing? Or did they just assume that Dehn was an expert on
Boulle's book, since he wrote those sequels that were derived from a
film based loosely on it?

Ah well... these flubs of Dehn's in this preface are not on-screen
ones, so I don't have to wrack my brain trying to unflub 'em!

Patrick

Perhaps we can through the next one away together.

I certainly feel like chucking it in the bin.  Perhaps

those of you who feel different would be kind enough

to let me know.  It's not so much for me.  I probably

put in less than one workday, without any overtime. 

But Neil is a perfectionist, and need his strokes.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:

> None of that joy, and pleasure, and nostalgia-goodness of my

personal interaction with that movie, alters the fact that the script
for Beneath is weak compared to Conquest (one of the best film
sequels ever made) and Planet (arguably one of the ten best films of
all time.)

> Ty the Guy again.

*** BENEATH's flaws stem, predominantly, from Heston's unwillingness
to devote anything above the bare minimum effort on his part to
reprise his role. If Heston had told Zanuck, "Dick, let me see a
script and, if it's as good as the first one, I'd be happy to do a
sequel," then maybe they would have been freer to come up with a
story that made full use of the character Taylor (and fuller use of
Zira & Cornelius).

But Chuck had the prejudiced view that ANY sequel would be nothing
more than "adventures among the monkeys" and he only reluctantly
agreed to be in it, insisting that they kill him off right away.

They had to cook up a plot that worked around that enormous obstacle.
It was a handicap, like trying to play basketball with your shoelaces
tied.

They HAD to include Taylor in the story SOMEHOW, but in such a way
that he had only minimal screentime -- all due to Heston's demand to
devote as little effort as possible to the production.

If they hadn't had to invent a new protagonist -- Brent -- to take
over the chores of going from place-to-place to reveal to the
audience what ELSE there was to be found on Earth near and in New
York City's ruins, then BENEATH would indeed have had a chance to be
far far better. Imagine if Jonathan Swift had to replace his
protagonist Lemuel Gulliver right after the first voyage, to
Lilliput, and introduce a DIFFERENT character to take up the slack.
Swift wasn't under any such constraints, of course. Unfortunately,
Paul Dehn and Mort Abrahams WERE under those constraints.

Heston wasn't contractually obligated to be in the film, so I guess
we should be happy he obliged them, albeit for a bare minimal
involvement. I just wish he had been more foresighted, to entertain
the possibility that a sequel COULD be as top-notch as the original
IF the writers had the time to plot out a story worth telling, not
hamstrung by an actor's unwillingness to commit. If he had insisted
on a script FIRST and then either turned it down based on its lack of
merits OR accepted it based on its merits, then we wouldn't be having
these pissing contests.

Imagine Sean Connery, after GOLDFINGER, telling Cubby Broccoli (sp?)
that he'd only do another Bond film if they killed him off in the
first ten minutes, so that they had to cook up a story where Bond is
actually killed and they have to resort to telling the adventures of
Agent 008 from now on. It's one thing to replace Doctor Whos every so
often -- but he's a Timelord who can 'die' and morph into a new body,
making it easy to replace actors when they get tired of the role. But
replacing Bond? I don't mean the actor (which they've done 5 times
now), but the CHARACTER played by the actor(s). Can't be done.

Fox didn't have the option of replacing Heston in the role of Taylor
(well, they COULD have done that, but they wisely realized that
audiences wouldn't accept anybody else in the role; replacing
McDowall wasn't as difficult since David Watson was wearing his
chimp 'ape'liances & costume, and had less screentime). Fox HAD to
agree to limit Taylor's screentime as per Heston's demands or they
couldn't get the movie started.

Given that enormous handicap, that huge hurdle they had to deal with,
it's amazing that they still managed to tell a story that was
compelling... at times frightening and mysterious... and, ultimately,
shocking in its abrupt ending. The vast majority of POTA fans will
admit that PLANET is a much better film, but that doesn't diminish
the impact BENEATH had on audiences then and on the POTA franchise.
The ending of BENEATH hangs like a Sword of Damocles over all the
sequels: the presence of Zira, Cornelius, their son in "present day"
wouldn't have happened if not for it. And the destruction of the
Earth is the prime motivating factor in Hasslein's "antagonist" role.
It is the be-all and end-all of our controversial debate regarding
POTA timelines.

I can understand POTA fans not putting it at the top of their POTA
movie list (though there ARE those who do, notwithstanding the
brilliance of PLANET), but I just wish the overly-critical would cut
it some friggin' slack. If you had a gun pointed to your head and you
were ordered to write a script for a sequel to a hugely popular and
successful movie... provided you could only introduce that first
film's protagonist and then kill him off in the first reel... what
are the chances that you could do a better job -- given the time
constraints APJAC Productions had to work with -- than the one Dehn
and Abrahams (et al) did?

BENEATH got made because Heston reluctantly said "Yes". And it wasn't
as great as it COULD have been because his "Yes" had that one damned
condition: Minimal participation. NONE of the other sequels had to be
written around such obstacles. So, if you think ESCAPE and CONQUEST
are better than BENEATH you have only to take this into account: Dehn
didn't have to tell stories using Kim & Roddy only minimally. And, to
his credit, Roddy didn't hold out for enormous wage increases for his
participation, the way some prima donna actors nowadays might do. He
was a workaday actor glad to get the part and contribute to the film.
Heston, a true Hollywood star at the time, didn't "need" to be as
generous with his talent -- he had other roles to do.

I bet that if he had been part of the old "studio system" -- where
you did the roles that your studio boss told you to do -- then he
would've had to do the sequel according to the specifics of the
script, which he would have no approval over. He couldn't make any
demands. I almost wish that the studio system hadn't dissolved pretty
much by the time BENEATH was made. They, then, could've made him do
more than the glorified cameo appearance he makes in BENEATH; he,
instead, could've been the protagonist throughout the entire story,
with no need for Dehn to invent Brent and all the rest. That would've
made for a better film.

As such, though, I still think it's a marvelous movie, warts & all.
And I disagree with Rory as to its quality of direction (etc). Is Ted
Post as good as Schaffner? No. But he's still more-than-competent.

But opinions are opinions and Rory & I can agree to disagree on the
merits of BENEATH.

Patrick

.html.html In a message dated 4/7/06 4:08:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

But opinions are opinions and Rory & I can agree to disagree on the
merits of BENEATH.

Patrick

BENEATH is EGREGIOUS!<.html <.html

All of your arguments are well thought out, and the defenses sound.  From what I can tell, you agree with me.  You've listed many reasons why the film's problems exist, and how no one particular person could be blamed for them. So, fine.  We agree.  It was pretty good, it could have been better, the films problems are many, and no one person can be blamed on them.

To say that Beneath was chock-a-bloc with unrealized potential is to also agree with my essential point: that the film is flawed, and that it holds up poorly to others in the series.  No one argues that Taylor would have been more interesting than Brent, and it's not Dehn's fault, etc.  But to discuss the film as it could have, or should have been, seems the definition of a moot point.  The film, as it IS, is a disappointment, compared to Planet, and isn't as good as the two that immediately follow it...

I'd still rather watch Beneath than any piece of #)(*#@() sequel with the words Star Wars in it (Except the first one, with Luke and Darth and Han and Leia, the first one's terrific!)

So we're probably very close in opinion on this subject.

Ty

On 4/7/06, patrickmichaeltilton < patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:

> None of that joy, and pleasure, and nostalgia-goodness of my
personal interaction with that movie, alters the fact that the script
for Beneath is weak compared to Conquest (one of the best film
sequels ever made) and Planet (arguably one of the ten best films of
all time.)

> Ty the Guy again.

*** BENEATH's flaws stem, predominantly, from Heston's unwillingness
to devote anything above the bare minimum effort on his part to
reprise his role. If Heston had told Zanuck, "Dick, let me see a
script and, if it's as good as the first one, I'd be happy to do a
sequel," then maybe they would have been freer to come up with a
story that made full use of the character Taylor (and fuller use of
Zira & Cornelius).

But Chuck had the prejudiced view that ANY sequel would be nothing
more than "adventures among the monkeys" and he only reluctantly
agreed to be in it, insisting that they kill him off right away.

They had to cook up a plot that worked around that enormous obstacle.
It was a handicap, like trying to play basketball with your shoelaces
tied.

They HAD to include Taylor in the story SOMEHOW, but in such a way
that he had only minimal screentime -- all due to Heston's demand to
devote as little effort as possible to the production.

If they hadn't had to invent a new protagonist -- Brent -- to take
over the chores of going from place-to-place to reveal to the
audience what ELSE there was to be found on Earth near and in New
York City's ruins, then BENEATH would indeed have had a chance to be
far far better. Imagine if Jonathan Swift had to replace his
protagonist Lemuel Gulliver right after the first voyage, to
Lilliput, and introduce a DIFFERENT character to take up the slack.
Swift wasn't under any such constraints, of course. Unfortunately,
Paul Dehn and Mort Abrahams WERE under those constraints.

Heston wasn't contractually obligated to be in the film, so I guess
we should be happy he obliged them, albeit for a bare minimal
involvement. I just wish he had been more foresighted, to entertain
the possibility that a sequel COULD be as top-notch as the original
IF the writers had the time to plot out a story worth telling, not
hamstrung by an actor's unwillingness to commit. If he had insisted
on a script FIRST and then either turned it down based on its lack of
merits OR accepted it based on its merits, then we wouldn't be having
these pissing contests.

Imagine Sean Connery, after GOLDFINGER, telling Cubby Broccoli (sp?)
that he'd only do another Bond film if they killed him off in the
first ten minutes, so that they had to cook up a story where Bond is
actually killed and they have to resort to telling the adventures of
Agent 008 from now on. It's one thing to replace Doctor Whos every so
often -- but he's a Timelord who can 'die' and morph into a new body,
making it easy to replace actors when they get tired of the role. But
replacing Bond? I don't mean the actor (which they've done 5 times
now), but the CHARACTER played by the actor(s). Can't be done.

Fox didn't have the option of replacing Heston in the role of Taylor
(well, they COULD have done that, but they wisely realized that
audiences wouldn't accept anybody else in the role; replacing
McDowall wasn't as difficult since David Watson was wearing his
chimp 'ape'liances & costume, and had less screentime). Fox HAD to
agree to limit Taylor's screentime as per Heston's demands or they
couldn't get the movie started.

Given that enormous handicap, that huge hurdle they had to deal with,
it's amazing that they still managed to tell a story that was
compelling... at times frightening and mysterious... and, ultimately,
shocking in its abrupt ending. The vast majority of POTA fans will
admit that PLANET is a much better film, but that doesn't diminish
the impact BENEATH had on audiences then and on the POTA franchise.
The ending of BENEATH hangs like a Sword of Damocles over all the
sequels: the presence of Zira, Cornelius, their son in "present day"
wouldn't have happened if not for it. And the destruction of the
Earth is the prime motivating factor in Hasslein's "antagonist" role.
It is the be-all and end-all of our controversial debate regarding
POTA timelines.

I can understand POTA fans not putting it at the top of their POTA
movie list (though there ARE those who do, notwithstanding the
brilliance of PLANET), but I just wish the overly-critical would cut
it some friggin' slack. If you had a gun pointed to your head and you
were ordered to write a script for a sequel to a hugely popular and
successful movie... provided you could only introduce that first
film's protagonist and then kill him off in the first reel... what
are the chances that you could do a better job -- given the time
constraints APJAC Productions had to work with -- than the one Dehn
and Abrahams (et al) did?

BENEATH got made because Heston reluctantly said "Yes". And it wasn't
as great as it COULD have been because his "Yes" had that one damned
condition: Minimal participation. NONE of the other sequels had to be
written around such obstacles. So, if you think ESCAPE and CONQUEST
are better than BENEATH you have only to take this into account: Dehn
didn't have to tell stories using Kim & Roddy only minimally. And, to
his credit, Roddy didn't hold out for enormous wage increases for his
participation, the way some prima donna actors nowadays might do. He
was a workaday actor glad to get the part and contribute to the film.
Heston, a true Hollywood star at the time, didn't "need" to be as
generous with his talent -- he had other roles to do.

I bet that if he had been part of the old "studio system" -- where
you did the roles that your studio boss told you to do -- then he
would've had to do the sequel according to the specifics of the
script, which he would have no approval over. He couldn't make any
demands. I almost wish that the studio system hadn't dissolved pretty
much by the time BENEATH was made. They, then, could've made him do
more than the glorified cameo appearance he makes in BENEATH; he,
instead, could've been the protagonist throughout the entire story,
with no need for Dehn to invent Brent and all the rest. That would've
made for a better film.

As such, though, I still think it's a marvelous movie, warts & all.
And I disagree with Rory as to its quality of direction (etc). Is Ted
Post as good as Schaffner? No. But he's still more-than-competent.

But opinions are opinions and Rory & I can agree to disagree on the
merits of BENEATH.

Patrick

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All of your arguments are well thought out, and the defenses sound.  From what I can tell, you agree with me.  You've listed many reasons why the film's problems exist, and how no one particular person could be blamed for them. So, fine.  We agree.

I absolutely DO NOT agree.  I don't blame Charlton Heston for BENEATH.  No way, no how.  He was artistically correct that a sequel was unnecessary and remains so today.  Chuck was right!

I blame the mentality at the studio at that time that decided the budget for the second APES would be less than the first, then slashed it even further.  At that point the production was doomed to little more than "B" status, with a script written by committee, and a director mostly know for doing television.

One thing I will say positive about BENEATH -- it could have been worse!

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I'd still rather watch Beneath than any piece of #)(*#@() sequel with the words Star Wars in it (Except the first one, with Luke and Darth and Han and Leia, the first one's terrific!)

Don't agree with that either.  THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK is the best!

-- Rory
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In a message dated 4/7/2006 11:35:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Yet again – superb colours and a magnificent effect from the setting (or rising?) sun.

 

Absolutely!  Look at the shading on the horse!

I may have to do some editing and rewrites to

make this story worthy of the artwork, eh?

Eh?  Sounds Canadian.  Do I qualify for

a position as a Revolution writer?

 

 

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.html.html In a message dated 4/7/2006 11:34:41 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Where's this from?

 
It's from your Monkey Planet comic...


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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> It's from your Monkey Planet comic...

-- Nope.

Neil

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In a message dated 4/8/2006 4:28:19 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

What's this Neil?

 





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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> A vision of your bad trip?

-- It's art.

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 4/8/2006 5:24:58 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an interest expressed.

 

How 'bput it?



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.html.html In a message dated 4/8/06 6:24:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an interest expressed.

How 'bput it?

Michael




Yeah, I want to see a MONKEY PLANET comic, but only if it's the entire book.

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I would really like to see it too.


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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Monkey Planet Comic

In a message dated 4/8/2006 5:24:58 PM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an
interest expressed.



How 'bput it?



I'd certainly like to see it!
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WOuld love to see it also.
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:

>
> I would really like to see it too.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Monkey Planet Comic
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Time,

> whitty@... writes:
>
> Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an
> interest expressed.
>
>
>
> How 'bput it?
>
>
>
> I'd certainly like to see it!
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Has any one done any more with the DVD covers idea? The one in the
files section that was made is awesome. Hope someone uses the pencil
ideas given to make covers for the rest of the films.
John

.html.html In a message dated 4/8/06 11:52:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

I'm talking the Yugoslavian one I got from eBay – translated.

Well, would you say it's good?

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.html.html In a message dated 4/9/06 2:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Has any one done any more with the DVD covers idea? The one in the
files section that was made is awesome. Hope someone uses the pencil
ideas given to make covers for the rest of the films.
John

Hasn't anybody else here got Adobe photoshop?  Why am I the only one doing these things?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
> I think all you'd really need to do is add color to these and you'd be all set. Looking forward to seeing more.

 

-- One more:

 

Neil

Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an interest expressed.

 

How ‘bput it?

Michael

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Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 2:59 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Monkey Planet Comic

I'd like to see it.

 

Greg

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an interest expressed.

 

How ‘bput it?

Michael

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Yes, me too.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/8/2006 5:24:58 PM Central Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
> > Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an
interest
> > expressed.
> >
> >
> >
> > How ‘bput it?
> >
> >
>
> I'd certainly like to see it!
>

I'd like to see that! Can you translate
Yugoslavian!?!!?

Tim

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> I'm talking the Yugoslavian one I got from eBay -
> translated.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Haristas@...
> Sent: Sunday, 9 April 2006 1:29 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Monkey Planet Comic
>
> In a message dated 4/8/06 6:24:58 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if
> there is an
> interest expressed.
>
>
>
> How 'bout it?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, I want to see a MONKEY PLANET comic, but only
> if it's the entire
> book.
>
> -- Rory
>

I have down loaded a trial version but for the life of me can't
figure out how to use it. Any pointers Rory on how to start and
operate the blasted thing?
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/9/06 2:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> JLKINSER1970@... writes:
>
>
> > Has any one done any more with the DVD covers idea? The one in

the

> > files section that was made is awesome. Hope someone uses the

pencil

> > ideas given to make covers for the rest of the films.
> > John
> >
>
> Hasn't anybody else here got Adobe photoshop? Why am I the only

one doing

> these things?
>
> -- Rory
>

.html.html In a message dated 4/9/06 3:33:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

I have down loaded a trial version but for the life of me can't
figure out how to use it. Any pointers Rory on how to start and
operate the blasted thing?
John

You'll have to ask James about that.  I assume what you're downloading is simply a Jpg file, and then you'll send that to your printer.

You have got a printer, right?

-- Rory<.html <.html

Yeah, I have a printer. And all of my Ape pictures are JPEG or GIF.
I use the Adobe Photo shop to open them but can't figure out what to
do and haow to cut away or add things
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/9/06 3:33:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> JLKINSER1970@... writes:
>
>
> > I have down loaded a trial version but for the life of me can't
> > figure out how to use it. Any pointers Rory on how to start and
> > operate the blasted thing?
> > John
> >
>
> You'll have to ask James about that. I assume what you're

downloading is

> simply a Jpg file, and then you'll send that to your printer.
>
> You have got a printer, right?
>
> -- Rory
>

.html.html In a message dated 4/9/06 4:10:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Yeah, I have a printer. And all of my Ape pictures are JPEG or GIF.
I use the Adobe Photo shop to open them but can't figure out what to
do and haow to cut away or add things
John

So, you're telling me you don't know how to use Adobe Photoshop.

I feel your pain.  I used to not know how to use it too, but luckily I had to learn it at work.

It's far too difficult for me to explain here.  Better if you just tell me what you want and I email the file back to you.

As far as changing the cover that James posted earlier and I suggested alterations to, let's see what James does.

-- Rory
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Well, I think I will just play around with it for awhile and see if
I can figure it out.
Thanks
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/9/06 4:10:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> JLKINSER1970@... writes:
>
>
> > Yeah, I have a printer. And all of my Ape pictures are JPEG or

GIF.

> > I use the Adobe Photo shop to open them but can't figure out

what to

> > do and haow to cut away or add things
> > John
> >
> So, you're telling me you don't know how to use Adobe Photoshop.
>
> I feel your pain. I used to not know how to use it too, but

luckily I had to

> learn it at work.
>
> It's far too difficult for me to explain here. Better if you just

tell me

> what you want and I email the file back to you.
>
> As far as changing the cover that James posted earlier and I

suggested

> alterations to, let's see what James does.
>
> -- Rory
>

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.html.html In a message dated 4/9/06 5:13:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

You got your groups mixed up Rory?

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John....I learned Photoshop by just getting on there
and playing and exploring.......just keep doing
samples and see what all the functions do....the
"Help" function will help you get started...

Tim

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/9/06 4:10:07 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> JLKINSER1970@... writes:
>
>
> > Yeah, I have a printer. And all of my Ape pictures
> are JPEG or GIF.
> > I use the Adobe Photo shop to open them but can't
> figure out what to
> > do and haow to cut away or add things
> > John
> >
> So, you're telling me you don't know how to use
> Adobe Photoshop.
>
> I feel your pain. I used to not know how to use it
> too, but luckily I had to
> learn it at work.
>
> It's far too difficult for me to explain here.
> Better if you just tell me
> what you want and I email the file back to you.
>
> As far as changing the cover that James posted
> earlier and I suggested
> alterations to, let's see what James does.
>
> -- Rory
>

Thanks Tim, I will give that a try. Seems like that is the only way
for us amatures to learn. We didn't have computers when I was in
school so this is all new to me. When we did get them, before I
graduated, it was all DOS back then any way.
WOW, showing my age now!!!
John


- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

>
> John....I learned Photoshop by just getting on there
> and playing and exploring.......just keep doing
> samples and see what all the functions do....the
> "Help" function will help you get started...
>
> Tim
>
> --- Haristas@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 4/9/06 4:10:07 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time,
> > JLKINSER1970@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, I have a printer. And all of my Ape pictures
> > are JPEG or GIF.
> > > I use the Adobe Photo shop to open them but can't
> > figure out what to
> > > do and haow to cut away or add things
> > > John
> > >
> > So, you're telling me you don't know how to use
> > Adobe Photoshop.
> >
> > I feel your pain. I used to not know how to use it
> > too, but luckily I had to
> > learn it at work.
> >
> > It's far too difficult for me to explain here.
> > Better if you just tell me
> > what you want and I email the file back to you.
> >
> > As far as changing the cover that James posted
> > earlier and I suggested
> > alterations to, let's see what James does.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>
>
>

I'm dying to see it...

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

Neil and I are considering sharing with the group if there is an interest expressed.

 

How ‘bput it?

Michael

I'm right there with you John,,,,,it took me a long
time to get over the anxiety of jumping in to
cyberspace several years ago.....but now I can't
function with out the damn thing!

Tim

--- luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@...>
wrote:

> Thanks Tim, I will give that a try. Seems like that
> is the only way
> for us amatures to learn. We didn't have computers
> when I was in
> school so this is all new to me. When we did get
> them, before I
> graduated, it was all DOS back then any way.
> WOW, showing my age now!!!
> John
>
>
> - In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> >
> > John....I learned Photoshop by just getting on
> there
> > and playing and exploring.......just keep doing
> > samples and see what all the functions do....the
> > "Help" function will help you get started...
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > --- Haristas@... wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 4/9/06 4:10:07 PM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > JLKINSER1970@... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah, I have a printer. And all of my Ape
> pictures
> > > are JPEG or GIF.
> > > > I use the Adobe Photo shop to open them but
> can't
> > > figure out what to
> > > > do and haow to cut away or add things
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > So, you're telling me you don't know how to use
> > > Adobe Photoshop.
> > >
> > > I feel your pain. I used to not know how to use
> it
> > > too, but luckily I had to
> > > learn it at work.
> > >
> > > It's far too difficult for me to explain here.
> > > Better if you just tell me
> > > what you want and I email the file back to you.
> > >
> > > As far as changing the cover that James posted
> > > earlier and I suggested
> > > alterations to, let's see what James does.
> > >
> > > -- Rory
> > >
> >
> >
> >

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:

> Okay here's an obscure one for you all.
> Anybody know how this famous children's character is connected to

Planet of the Apes?

-- Okay the children's character is Miffy which was drawn / originated
by Dick Bruna. It is connected to POTA as he was the cover artist for
the '60s Dutch release of Boulle's novel.

But of course we all knew that which is why no one bothered with it right?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> YEAH! What's with the attitude from you two Aussie guys?

-- No 'attitude' from me that I can recall? And by the way, not for
the first time either, I am NOT an Aussie.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Where's this from?

-- This is a portion of one of the two illustrations from the
condensed version of Boulle's POTA that appeared in the November 1965
issue of Bizarre Mystery Magazine. This would have been the first time
POTA was illustraded anywhere I believe?

Neil
So long and thanks for all the fish...

.html.html PALM SPRINGS, California (April 10) - Cheeta the chimp, star of a dozen "Tarzan" movies in the 1930s and 1940s, celebrated his 74th birthday with sugar-free cake.

Although healthy and active, Cheeta is diabetic.

"He had a good time. The party went real good," said keeper Dan Westfall, operator of the primate sanctuary Creative Habitats and Enrichment for Endangered and Threatened Apes - or CHEETA.

Representatives from a Spanish film festival also showed up for Sunday's party to present Cheeta with the first award of his career - an International Comedy Film Festival of Peniscola prize.

Cheeta has been recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world's oldest chimp . Chimps rarely live past the age of 40 in the wild, but can reach 60 in captivity.

The graying, 150-pound Cheeta, one of six primates at the desert sanctuary 110 miles east of Los Angeles, is very active and "he still has every tooth in his head," Westfall said Monday.

Asked about his typical day, Westfall said one of Cheeta's favorite activities is riding around with him in the car. He also likes to paint, what Westfall calls "ape-stract" pieces that are sold to raise money for the nonprofit sanctuary.

Westfall adopted Cheeta in 1992 from his uncle Tony Gentry, an animal trainer who worked in Hollywood and obtained Cheeta from Africa in the 1930s.



















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and here is the old fella enjoying retirement....

Tim

--- mlccougar@... wrote:

> PALM SPRINGS, California (April 10) - Cheeta the
> chimp, star of a dozen
> "Tarzan" movies in the 1930s and 1940s, celebrated
> his 74th birthday with
> sugar-free cake.
>
> Although healthy and active, Cheeta is diabetic.
>
> "He had a good time. The party went real good," said
> keeper Dan Westfall,
> operator of the primate sanctuary Creative Habitats
> and Enrichment for Endangered
> and Threatened Apes - or CHEETA.
>
> Representatives from a Spanish film festival also
> showed up for Sunday's
> party to present Cheeta with the first award of his
> career - an International
> Comedy Film Festival of Peniscola prize.
>
> Cheeta has been recognized by the Guinness Book of
> World Records as the
> world's oldest chimp . Chimps rarely live past the
> age of 40 in the wild, but can
> reach 60 in captivity.
>
> The graying, 150-pound Cheeta, one of six primates
> at the desert sanctuary
> 110 miles east of Los Angeles, is very active and
> "he still has every tooth in
> his head," Westfall said Monday.
>
> Asked about his typical day, Westfall said one of
> Cheeta's favorite
> activities is riding around with him in the car. He
> also likes to paint, what Westfall
> calls "ape-stract" pieces that are sold to raise
> money for the nonprofit
> sanctuary.
>
> Westfall adopted Cheeta in 1992 from his uncle Tony
> Gentry, an animal trainer
> who worked in Hollywood and obtained Cheeta from
> Africa in the 1930s.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> People who live in Aussie Land are Aussies! Or do you just call

yourself a "DownUnderer"?

-- No I call myself English.

Neil

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Great storyboards Neil!  As

usual.  Except on the last

frame, Zira looks like she's

got Halloween mask lips.

WUWT?  A bit of a drop

from the Photo-Neilism 

we've all come to expect.   ; )

 

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--- In theplanetoftheapeszone@yahoogroups.com, raven33781_99
<no_reply@...> wrote:

>
> 20th Century Fox Director Peter

Jackson who made KING KONG, is set
to

> direct a new version of

PLANET OF THE APES!!!

>
> Will Ape fans get behind

this???

>

I've heard nothing of this. Where are you getting your information
from?

This would a spectacular IMO. While I enjoyed Burton's Apes, I
wasn't blown away like I'd hoped to be. Blown away like Batman
Begins blew me away, completely anihalating the previous
installments. For years I thought I'd be stuck with the '76 Kong
being the crap remake of the classic, but Jackson put that bad
feeling down by doing it right.

And not that I think Burton's is total crap, how sweet if PJ would
do the same for POTA.

.html.html In a message dated 4/11/06 8:52:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

For Rory and Cougar....  :)

Whitty, are you just waking up from a long sleep?  This stunt is old news.

Oh, and while we're on the subject, I'm now going to make this prediction....

Fox won't do another APES movie in our lifetimes.

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There's a guy on ebay selling 8 x 10 photos....He must
have found a box of negatives somewhere because I have
never seen about 80% of these.....He's selling them
for 10 bucks each which is too much but if you have
time click through his list...there's some cool ones
in there.....not sure if this link will work.....his
name on ebay is "wolfs_photos" I beleive...

http://search.ebay.com/planet-of-the-apes_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfrtsZ0QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsassZwolfsQ5fphotos

Here's a few I thought were interesting.....

The ones with Linda and James are odd...looks like
maybe they were going to do some superimposing of
their faces or something.....and the ladder too??
Check them out.......
I can post more that I drug off ebay if anybody
wants....
Tim

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In a message dated 4/11/2006 7:57:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Fox won't do another APES movie in our lifetimes.

 

After LOTR I thought Jackson could do a credible job on

a POTA flick.  After King Kong I'm not so sure.

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

> The ones with Linda and James are odd...looks like
> maybe they were going to do some superimposing of
> their faces or something.....and the ladder too??
> Check them out.......

-- Very interesting.

> I can post more that I drug off ebay if anybody
> wants....

-- I'd sure like to see more of these thanks Tim.

Neil

Just received my copy of Revolution on the Planet of the Apes issue 3.
Now I'm going to go and enjoy it, love that cover!

Everyone else got theirs yet?

Neil

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In a message dated 4/11/2006 10:59:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

Everyone else got theirs yet?

 

I ordered #2 & #3 last week.

They just shipped, so this week, maybe.

 

 

T

 

 

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Wow. I was surprised that there were that many I had never seen
before. Thanks for letting us know about these.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> There's a guy on ebay selling 8 x 10 photos....He must
> have found a box of negatives somewhere because I have
> never seen about 80% of these.....He's selling them
> for 10 bucks each which is too much but if you have
> time click through his list...there's some cool ones
> in there.....not sure if this link will work.....his
> name on ebay is "wolfs_photos" I beleive...
>
> http://search.ebay.com/planet-of-the-
apes_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1Q
QfromZR10QQfrtsZ0QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsassZwo
lfsQ5fphotos
>
> Here's a few I thought were interesting.....
>
> The ones with Linda and James are odd...looks like
> maybe they were going to do some superimposing of
> their faces or something.....and the ladder too??
> Check them out.......
> I can post more that I drug off ebay if anybody
> wants....
> Tim
>
>

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Does anyone know if Landon ever did any other movies? He seems to be one of the people that no one ever talks to when they do a behind the scenes or something?

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I got mine yesterday. My only complaint is that the detail in Tom
Fowlers art is really lost after it has been colored. It still looks
great and helps it blend into the first two issues he didn't draw
nicely, but after seeing his pencils I felt something was definately
lost.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Just received my copy of Revolution on the Planet of the Apes issue 3.
> Now I'm going to go and enjoy it, love that cover!
>
> Everyone else got theirs yet?
>
> Neil
>

Thx for sharing Tim. They were incredilbe. I love the one with the Icarus on the back of the truck. It's a shame it's $10.

"Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

There's a guy on ebay selling 8 x 10 photos....He must
have found a box of negatives somewhere because I have
never seen about 80% of these.....He's selling them
for 10 bucks each which is too much but if you have
time click through his list...there's some cool ones
in there.....not sure if this link will work.....his
name on ebay is "wolfs_photos" I beleive...

http://search.ebay.com/planet-of-the-apes_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfrtsZ0QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsassZwolfsQ5fphotos

Here's a few I thought were interesting.....

The ones with Linda and James are odd...looks like
maybe they were going to do some superimposing of
their faces or something.....and the ladder too??
Check them out.......
I can post more that I drug off ebay if anybody
wants....
Tim

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Does anyone know if Landon ever did any other movies? He seems to be one of the people that no one ever talks to when they do a behind the scenes or something?


He was in one other film, a James Bond film if I remember correctly... As far as why he is never interviewed, that's simple: He's dead....<.html <.html

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Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@... wrote:

> Great storyboards Neil! As
> usual. Except on the last
> frame, Zira looks like she's
> got Halloween mask lips.
> WUWT? A bit of a drop
> from the Photo-Neilism
> we've all come to expect. ; )

-- Well you know what it's like T, if there was actually some interest
I would have knocked myself out on the artwork but as things stand at
the moment why bother?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> Issue 78 is now available to download from Hunter's site.

-- Thanks Greg.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

>

-- Thanks Tim.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> Fantastic job with her expression here, Neil.

-- Thanks Greg. Hey, is there an echo in this room?.. ;-)

Neil