--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

> I got mine yesterday. My only complaint is that the detail in Tom
> Fowlers art is really lost after it has been colored. It still looks
> great and helps it blend into the first two issues he didn't draw
> nicely, but after seeing his pencils I felt something was definately
> lost.

-- I think it looks fine myself in fact in some of the panels I
noticed some of the pencil lines that would have been 'cleaned up' if
it was inked show through and I find that a little off putting, but
still the brilliance of Tom Fowler's art is pure joy either way!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

> I got mine yesterday.

-- I really enjoyed the back up story. Salgood Sam has really excelled
himself on this one, I actually like his work on this better than on
the main story.

It's great to see back stories like these, this is stuff we Apes fans
have been wondering about for years and it's great that the Revolution
guys are doing this, thanks guys.

Ty, you did mention earlier that Fox wouldn't allow you to use the
likeness of Montalban (and the others) didn't you? That's a pity as
using his likeness would have made a great story even better!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

>

-- Oops, forgot to mention the 'Hasslein Notes'. Nice touch (where can
we get some of that ANSA notepaper from?) and it's good to see that
the great man himself grasped the reality of the circular timeline theory!

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 4/12/06 8:29:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Oops, forgot to mention the 'Hasslein Notes'. Nice touch (where can
we get some of that ANSA notepaper from?) and it's good to see that
the great man himself grasped the reality of the circular timeline theory!

Neil

Who's "the great man himself"?  Hasslein?  And who's putting words in his mouth?

Hasslein knows better than to believe in circular timelines!  And let's not forget he's the guy who killed Zira and Cornelius!  Great man indeed!  PHOOEY!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> Who's "the great man himself"? Hasslein?

-- Yes.

> And let's not forget he's the guy who killed Zira and Cornelius!

Great man indeed! PHOOEY!

-- Well he did try to stop those damn dirty Apes from taking over the
world from us Humans didn't he, so that really makes him a hero and
therefore a great man, unless of course you are an Ape! ;-)

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 4/12/06 8:59:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Well he did try to stop those damn dirty Apes from taking over the
world from us Humans didn't he, so that really makes him a hero and
therefore a great man, unless of course you are an Ape! ;-)

Neil

Wait a minute here!  Where the HELL are you coming from?!!!

He's a hero because he tried to STOP "those damn dirty Apes from taking over the world"?!!!

WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON?!!!!!

You got somethin' against apes?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON?!!!!!
> You got somethin' against apes?

-- Yes! Because they were once our ancestors. Because man was born of
the apes, and there's still an ape curled up inside every one of us!

They're the beast in us that we must whip into submission!...

Governor Foster

Did Sam use a likeness in his draft sketches?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> > I got mine yesterday.
>
> -- I really enjoyed the back up story. Salgood Sam has really excelled
> himself on this one, I actually like his work on this better than on
> the main story.
>
> It's great to see back stories like these, this is stuff we Apes fans
> have been wondering about for years and it's great that the Revolution
> guys are doing this, thanks guys.
>
> Ty, you did mention earlier that Fox wouldn't allow you to use the
> likeness of Montalban (and the others) didn't you? That's a pity as
> using his likeness would have made a great story even better!
>
> Neil

We're not allowed to use likenesses, so no, there was not an "original" version where it looked like Ricardo.  We did our best to make it SOUND like him, though...How'd we do.

I'm very fond of the Circus story, by the way, my favorite of the series so far...but wait until issue #4!

And as to the look of Tom's pencils.  I couldn't be happier with the look of issue #3.  The pages are just the right balance of pencils and colour.  You ALWAYS lose something when you add colour or inks to a pencil line.  But we spend painstaking hours balancing the colour layer to the pencil layer to get it just right.  (Believe me, as someone who spends many of those hours over the computer himself, I'm not kidding about the attention to Tom's pencil line.)

We're just getting the pencil art in from issue #5 as we speak...if you think you liked Sam's work on the circus story, wait til you see him destroy the White House...OOPS!  I've given away too much.

And Fowler returns in issues #4 and #6!  We don't let the good ones get away.

Now, I'm back to work, enough of this internet madness.

Ty the Guy.

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In addition to a scan of the display riser I recently acquired at the New York Comic-con, I've finally completed the long-gestating CD label/booklet project I'd been working on

That riser is excellent... That is a super piece, and you're very lucky to have obtained it... Good catch...

Also, as far as the CD label/booklets, they turned out very nicely and eevryone should check them out... Your time was very well spent on creating those...

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How about the rest of you – who were you cheering for?  Does it change in the various different movies?

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Just got mine last night. (The guy who I ordered them from but who
closed up shop 2 weeks ago will be selling the stuff right out of his
home, at least for a while. Just hope this continues at least until
the last issue.)

I'm still not fully convinced that apes managed to attain the ability
to oversee the use of jet controls, but I confess I've been compelled
by that cover ever since I saw it. I was especially glad to flip the
issue over and find a detailed section of the cover painting.

TY: Does Rodier have a website where we can take a peek at some of
other work?

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil <nfoster@...>
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:58 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] RotPotA #3

> Just received my copy of Revolution on the Planet of the Apes
> issue 3.
> Now I'm going to go and enjoy it, love that cover!
>
> Everyone else got theirs yet?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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In a message dated 4/12/2006 6:52:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Well you know what it's like T, if there was actually some interest
I would have knocked myself out on the artwork but as things stand at
the moment why bother?

Neil

 

Word...I guess people think it's just Zira

galloping around on her father's horse ranch.

Trust me folks.  There is more to the story

than that.  It's pretty much everything that

happened to everyone before Taylor arrived.

We need to go back to the Before title.

 

 

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In a message dated 4/12/2006 8:10:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

You got something' against apes?

 

I have something against most apes.

Remember, only Zira & to a lesser

extent, Cornelius were Good Guys

among the Apes.  The gorillas were

mindless enforcers.  And the Orangs

were only interested in maintaining

the status quo.  Not exactly the

sort of apes you'd want to be

friends with.  And even if you

were, they wouldn't be friends

with you.  they's geld you,

lobotomize you, and use

you for live target practice!

 

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Word...I guess people think it's just Zira

galloping around on her father's horse ranch.

Trust me folks.  There is more to the story

than that.  It's pretty much everything that

happened to everyone before Taylor arrived.

We need to go back to the Before title.

Yes he does.

www.rodierstudio.com

Drop in and visit, and say I sent you, Denis loves folks to come see what he does.

And if you read the first two stories, you'll remember the humans at the military installation were specifically training the apes to fly planes, and were messing with the brains as well...we CURRENTLY have chimps who can fly simulators, so why not trained gorillas with brain altering tech?

Anyway, you're right...it's a cool cover.

Ty the Guy.

On 4/13/06, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

Just got mine last night. (The guy who I ordered them from but who
closed up shop 2 weeks ago will be selling the stuff right out of his
home, at least for a while. Just hope this continues at least until
the last issue.)

I'm still not fully convinced that apes managed to attain the ability
to oversee the use of jet controls, but I confess I've been compelled
by that cover ever since I saw it. I was especially glad to flip the
issue over and find a detailed section of the cover painting.

TY: Does Rodier have a website where we can take a peek at some of
other work?

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil <nfoster@...>
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:58 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] RotPotA #3

> Just received my copy of Revolution on the Planet of the Apes
> issue 3.
> Now I'm going to go and enjoy it, love that cover!
>
> Everyone else got theirs yet?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>

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I'm on the side of a good story, but I will say this.

Joe and I talked at LENGTH about the six POTA movies, and we both came to the conclusion that the "hero" of the series is Dr. Hasslein. 

I'm not kidding.

He's the one that realizes what trouble he's caused, and he's the only one willing to do something to fix it.  As morally repugnant as it would be to kill a family (parents and baby) he realized it was humanity's only chance, and took up arms to stop the future, even if it meant doing villainous things. That takes courage and strength.  

The script for Escape cleverly balances his actions against his motivations.  His motives are pure as the driven snow...protect humanity from his mistake...

It's only his ACTION that seem villainous.

Joe O'Brien and Ty Templeton.  Co-Founders of the Otto Hasslein Fan Club.

I watch movies to escape. Even as a small child I always cheered the
Apes, or Godzilla, or whatever other monster/evil deity was the
center of attention. I always sided with the Empire in Star Wars,
etc. etc. Could be a big reason I've grown to be lesser Devil I am
now.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> This brings up a fascinating question.
>
> When I watched the POTA movies I think I was most often on the side
of
> the apes....well, not that bad MF Urko!
>
> How about the rest of you - who were you cheering for? Does it
change
> in the various different movies?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Haristas@...
> Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:49 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RotPotA #3
>
> In a message dated 4/12/06 8:29:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> nfoster@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> -- Oops, forgot to mention the 'Hasslein Notes'. Nice touch (where
can
> we get some of that ANSA notepaper from?) and it's good to see that
> the great man himself grasped the reality of the circular timeline
> theory!
>
> Neil
>
>
> Who's "the great man himself"? Hasslein? And who's putting words
in
> his mouth?
>
> Hasslein knows better than to believe in circular timelines! And
let's
> not forget he's the guy who killed Zira and Cornelius! Great man
> indeed! PHOOEY!
>
> -- Rory
>

Thank you guys so much for this. I still have all the original Planet
of the Apes Power record stuff in my collection but I was so excited
to be able to burn CD's to listen to in the car with my Son. It will
be great to print professional looking CD's and booklets. You guys
rule.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> There's been some updates to the Power Records section of Hunter's
site. In addition to a scan of the display riser I recently acquired
at the New York Comic-con, I've finally completed the long-gestating
CD label/booklet project I'd been working on. Those who want to make
their own Power Records CDs can download hi-res files to print disc
labels, booklets showing the original album art and even tray cards
(there's even a common image for the inner side of the tray card if
you want to use a clear tray in your CD jewel case).
>
> Also now available are hi-res scans of all the album sleeves,
including the 3 TV story 'Little LPs' and while I was at it I re-
scanned and cleaned-up the 4 comic covers and re-built the comic PDFs
and split them into three separate PDFs each for easier downloading.
>
> My thanks to Michael Whitty and Tim Parati who provided me with
scans for the TV Little LPs didn't have. Thanks also to Hunter for
hosting these files and for the time he spent yesterday completely
reformatting the Power Records page on his site to best show the new
additions.
>
> Whew! Now that I'm done with that, I'm going to DisneyWorld!
>
> https://pota.goatley.com
>
> Greg
>

Ty...I said before I think Armando's "voice" is very
much Ricardo's!

Are any of your writers or artisits coming to the
Heroes Convention in Charlotte, NC in June that you
know of? would love to meet them!!

Tim

--- Ty Templeton <tybunny@...> wrote:

> We're not allowed to use likenesses, so no, there
> was not an "original"
> version where it looked like Ricardo. We did our
> best to make it SOUND like
> him, though...How'd we do.
>
> I'm very fond of the Circus story, by the way, my
> favorite of the series so
> far...but wait until issue #4!
>
> And as to the look of Tom's pencils. I couldn't be
> happier with the look of
> issue #3. The pages are just the right balance of
> pencils and colour. You
> ALWAYS lose something when you add colour or inks to
> a pencil line. But we
> spend painstaking hours balancing the colour layer
> to the pencil layer to
> get it just right. (Believe me, as someone who
> spends many of those hours
> over the computer himself, I'm not kidding about the
> attention to Tom's
> pencil line.)
>
> We're just getting the pencil art in from issue #5
> as we speak...if you
> think you liked Sam's work on the circus story, wait
> til you see him destroy
> the White House...OOPS! I've given away too much.
>
> And Fowler returns in issues #4 and #6! We don't
> let the good ones get
> away.
>
> Now, I'm back to work, enough of this internet
> madness.
>
> Ty the Guy.
>
> On 4/13/06, mike_oz2005 <whitty@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Did Sam use a likeness in his draft sketches?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil"
> <nfoster@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> > > > I got mine yesterday.
> > >
> > > -- I really enjoyed the back up story. Salgood
> Sam has really excelled
> > > himself on this one, I actually like his work on
> this better than on
> > > the main story.
> > >
> > > It's great to see back stories like these, this
> is stuff we Apes fans
> > > have been wondering about for years and it's
> great that the Revolution
> > > guys are doing this, thanks guys.
> > >
> > > Ty, you did mention earlier that Fox wouldn't
> allow you to use the
> > > likeness of Montalban (and the others) didn't
> you? That's a pity as
> > > using his likeness would have made a great story
> even better!
> > >
> > > Neil
> >
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ALWAYS the APES! In fact I would get bored
orfrustrated even when humans showed up.....!

TIm

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> This brings up a fascinating question.
>
> When I watched the POTA movies I think I was most
> often on the side of
> the apes....well, not that bad MF Urko!
>
> How about the rest of you - who were you cheering
> for? Does it change
> in the various different movies?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Haristas@...
> Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:49 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RotPotA #3
>
> In a message dated 4/12/06 8:29:58 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> nfoster@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> -- Oops, forgot to mention the 'Hasslein Notes'.
> Nice touch (where can
> we get some of that ANSA notepaper from?) and it's
> good to see that
> the great man himself grasped the reality of the
> circular timeline
> theory!
>
> Neil
>
>
> Who's "the great man himself"? Hasslein? And who's
> putting words in
> his mouth?
>
> Hasslein knows better than to believe in circular
> timelines! And let's
> not forget he's the guy who killed Zira and
> Cornelius! Great man
> indeed! PHOOEY!
>
> -- Rory
>

This is a hell of a lot of work Greg! It is all
wonderful! THANK YOU!! (and Hunter!)

Tim

--- Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> There's been some updates to the Power Records
> section of Hunter's site. In addition to a scan of
> the display riser I recently acquired at the New
> York Comic-con, I've finally completed the
> long-gestating CD label/booklet project I'd been
> working on. Those who want to make their own Power
> Records CDs can download hi-res files to print disc
> labels, booklets showing the original album art and
> even tray cards (there's even a common image for the
> inner side of the tray card if you want to use a
> clear tray in your CD jewel case).
>
> Also now available are hi-res scans of all the
> album sleeves, including the 3 TV story 'Little LPs'
> and while I was at it I re-scanned and cleaned-up
> the 4 comic covers and re-built the comic PDFs and
> split them into three separate PDFs each for easier
> downloading.
>
> My thanks to Michael Whitty and Tim Parati who
> provided me with scans for the TV Little LPs didn't
> have. Thanks also to Hunter for hosting these files
> and for the time he spent yesterday completely
> reformatting the Power Records page on his site to
> best show the new additions.
>
> Whew! Now that I'm done with that, I'm going to
> DisneyWorld!
>
> https://pota.goatley.com
>
> Greg
>

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In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:01:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Yeah, but at some point maybe they'd put me in a cage with a female like Nova.  I wouldn't mind that situation.

 

I dunno.  Forced mating sounds great and all...

But did you see some of the other females?

Not exactly Nova quality . . . were they.

 

 

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In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:27:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, urko3085@... writes:

Knowing that more characters from the film will eventually be involved makes me even more eager to see what will happen next

 

I'm glad someone is interested.

I was beginning to think no one

cared what was going on before

Taylor got there and turned it all

upside down.  Thanks for the

encouragement.  Maybe Neil &

Mike, or anyone else for that

matter, have some ideas, they'd

like to see incorporated into the

story.  There may be a couple

of bases I haven't covered yet.

 

 

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In a message dated 4/13/2006 4:44:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tybunny@... writes:

we both came to the conclusion that the "hero" of the series is Dr. Hasslein. 

 

In the movies, as in life, they heavy usually thinks they are the hero.

I heard Dennis Hopper say the same thing about his Frank Booth

character in the special edition of Blue Velvet just last week.

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> Whew! Now that I'm done with that, I'm going to DisneyWorld!

-- And you have a good time there Greg, you deserve a holiday. I am
constantly amazed at the amount of work you put into these things for
we few Apes fans. I salute you!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:

> And as to the look of Tom's pencils. I couldn't be happier with the

look of issue #3. The pages are just the right balance of pencils and
colour. You ALWAYS lose something when you add colour or inks to a
pencil line. But we spend painstaking hours balancing the colour
layer to the pencil layer to get it just right.

-- Ty, as I don't buy many comics these days (compared to the vast
amounts that I used to) I was wondering if the use of inkers is dying
out? Is it easier to just colour over the pencils these days as with
the use of computers you can get the pencil lines to stand out more?
And did you decide to not use inkers as you like that pencilled look
or were there financial reasons that decided it for you?

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

> I'm still not fully convinced that apes managed to attain the

ability to oversee the use of jet controls, but I confess I've been
compelled by that cover ever since I saw it.

-- I don't have a problem with this sort of thing, especially if half
the rumours of what the US military has been trying to do with animals
and some of the things they have actually supposed to have used
animals for over the years are true.

One article I read recently was about their attempts to control wasps
by adding some sort of implant whilst in their larval state (which
apparently failed spectacularly.)

These sort of experiments do go on and it makes sense that they would
experiment with more intelligent animals.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@... wrote:

> Word...I guess people think it's just Zira
> galloping around on her father's horse ranch.
> Trust me folks. There is more to the story
> than that.

-- Yes, very much more.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@... wrote:

> I have something against most apes.
> Remember, only Zira & to a lesser
> extent, Cornelius were Good Guys
> among the Apes. The gorillas were
> mindless enforcers. And the Orangs
> were only interested in maintaining
> the status quo. Not exactly the
> sort of apes you'd want to be
> friends with. And even if you
> were, they wouldn't be friends
> with you. they's geld you,
> lobotomize you, and use
> you for live target practice!

-- And even Caesar turned out to be pretty mean and nasty towards humans.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> I initially thought it was a simpler (but no less interesting) story

about how Zira came to be interested in studying humans and belive
it's off to a very good start. Knowing that more characters from the
film will eventually be involved makes me even more eager to see what
will happen next and how those characters' stories will be integrated
with Zira's.

-- Well if the interest is there I have no problem carrying on with
the story.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:

> Yes he does.
> www.rodierstudio.com
> Drop in and visit, and say I sent you, Denis loves folks to come see

what he does.

-- Cool, he does great stuff. A few years ago I was heavily into
Superman during his run on the comic around the same time that Tom
Grummett was a regular penciller on it as well.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:

> we both came to the conclusion that the "hero" of the series is Dr.

Hasslein.

> I'm not kidding.
> He's the one that realizes what trouble he's caused, and he's the

only one willing to do something to fix it.

-- Plus in Escape he was also bemoaning the fact that 'we' were doing
nothing about over population, polution etc.

"We think we've got all the time in the world. How much time has the
world got?"

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:

> Joe O'Brien and Ty Templeton. Co-Founders of the Otto Hasslein Fan

Club.

-- Cool, how can I join up? ;-)

Neil

>From: "Ty Templeton" < tybunny@...>
>Joe and I talked at LENGTH about the six POTA movies, and we both came to
>the conclusion that the "hero" of the series is Dr. Hasslein.
>I'm not kidding.
>He's the one that realizes what trouble he's caused, and he's the only one
>willing to do something to fix it. As morally repugnant as it would be to
>kill a family (parents and baby) he realized it was humanity's only chance,
>and took up arms to stop the future, even if it meant doing villainous
>things. That takes courage and strength.
>The script for Escape cleverly balances his actions against his
>motivations. His motives are pure as the driven snow...protect humanity
>from his mistake...
>It's only his ACTION that seem villainous.

Oh, yeah, I've always felt that the movies portray Hasslein more
darkly than he should be portrayed. If two talking apes showed up,
saying the world was going to end, they'd definitely be the villains,
not those trying to prevent such a morbid future. It's only because
we already knew Zira and Cornelius from the first two films that
Hasslein became the villain. Had the series started with Escape, I
think he'd have been portrayed a good deal more sympathetically.

Unless Spielberg directed the film, that is...then Hasslein would
decide not to kill them, give them both a big hug, hoist up little
MIlo on his shoulders and give some pithy speech about how grateful
he is to them for opening his eyes to the truth.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> There's been some updates to the Power Records section of Hunter's

site. In addition to a scan of the display riser I recently acquired
at the New York Comic-con, I've finally completed the long-gestating
CD label/booklet project I'd been working on

-- Greg I also noticed that thanks to Mark Rogers and yourself there
is also a scan of the UK Fan Club calendar that was part of the kit
one got when one joined. Thanks very much for this guys, brings back
some wonderful memories!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Yes....I wasn't going to dwell on this....me being a fan of the "altered
> timeline". You know Neil, like in the new story we are doing? (HA!)

-- Hey I almost missed this one! We're doing a NEW story, cool. Wonder
what that could be about then? ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:

> Oh, yeah, I've always felt that the movies portray Hasslein more
> darkly than he should be portrayed. If two talking apes showed up,
> saying the world was going to end, they'd definitely be the villains,
> not those trying to prevent such a morbid future. It's only because
> we already knew Zira and Cornelius from the first two films that
> Hasslein became the villain. Had the series started with Escape, I
> think he'd have been portrayed a good deal more sympathetically.

-- Exactly. He didn't have the knowledge that we the audience had,
knowing that Z & C were nice / sympathetic to humans.
How would we react if all we knew about them was that they were going
to have a baby that would one day be the cause of Man's downfall and
the Apes' rise and to also find out about the gruesome experiments and
operations that Zira preformed on humans?

Neil

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Greg,

 

These are magnificent!

 

Hey – where is this pic from?  Is it from the display, and is it original art not found elsewhere on the records?

 

-- Greg I also noticed that thanks to Mark Rogers and yourself there
is also a scan of the UK Fan Club calendar that was part of the kit
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Neil

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Glad to see he's not forgotten.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:
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>
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> Neil
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Well, we'd want it based heavily on fact.
> Can anyone tell me some frightening facts about genetic manipulation
> involving primates?

-- Well I did recently find a couple of articles on the net about the
possible introduction of Human brain cells into the brains of Apes.
I'll have a hunt around and see if I can find the links, I know I have
them somewhere.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Hey - where is this pic from? Is it from the display, and is it
> original art not found elsewhere on the records?

-- Yes this is great. I always love seeing 'new' old Apes artwork that
hasn't been seen before (well not by most of us anyway).

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

> Glad to see he's not forgotten.

-- Hey I just had a thought - how about an Uncle Manny comic strip?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

> Glad to see he's not forgotten.

-- Well he's not that easy to forget is he? ;-)

Neil

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Yeah, but at some point maybe they'd put me in a cage with a female like Nova.  I wouldn't mind that situation.
 

You'd want a dirty, unclean, unshaven woman... That'd be the reality... I'm sure there is no soap and no razors/shavers out in the wild...

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This is a hell of a lot of work Greg! It is all
wonderful! THANK YOU!! (and Hunter!)

Absolutely!!!  Greg P. gets my nomination as APES # 1 contributor...

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Now - I'm off to use my old Mix-n-Mold to make a POTA Easter Egg!

-- Be sure to let us know how it turns out!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> What was the total amount of money PLANET made on the day it opened,

February 8, 1968?

-- Well I have no idea but I'm sure it was a tidy little sum.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> Since it's nearly Easter I'll post this trade ad from 1968, reminding
> everyone that PLANET was originally an Easter movie for most of the

people in the US.

-- Thanks Rory.

Neil

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-- And even Caesar turned out to be pretty mean and nasty towards humans.

 

It's hard to blame him.

His mother & father

were killed by humans

forcing him to be raise

by Ricardo Montalban

who used him in his

circus like a trained

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In a message dated 4/13/2006 5:41:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- And even Caesar turned out to be pretty mean and nasty towards humans.

It's hard to blame him.
His mother &father
were killed by humans
forcing him to be raise
by Ricardo Montalban
who used him in his
circus like a trained
organ grinding monkey
 


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In a message dated 4/13/2006 5:03:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

I am
constantly amazed at the amount of work you put into these things for
we few Apes fans. I salute you!

Neil

 

Look who's talking.  You amaze me.

How many comics have you done now?

I've lost count.  I can't think of another

fan that works as hard as you to give

other fans that apeish feeling.  I still

get a kick out of printing out your

comics and reading them like

the old comic books.  Sure

Revolution is great, but I

still your's better.

 

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In a message dated 4/14/2006 12:15:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

but I still your's better.

Should have read...

 

I still like your's better.

 

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In the long run, the fact that we don't have to pay an inker is nice for our bottom line, but it was entirely asthetics that led me to try colouring directly over pencils.  I've really liked it when it's been done well on other comics, and I knew the pencil work of both Tom and Max was so strong, that the technique would lead to stunning comic pages. 

The back up story in #4 is fully inked, however, since that's what the artist strongly wanted to see, and I was fine with his choice.  ALSO:  Some of the lead story in issue #5 is inked, as Salgood was really interested to see what it would look like if he inked a couple of pages in a specific sequence to make them look different (It's a flashback).

At the moment, I don't see inkers as a dying breed.  I'd say less than 5% of comics on the stands shoot from the pencils.  (I'm currently drawing a job for VERTIGO that I'm shooting straight from the pencils because I like the technique, and not because I don't want to ink it.)

Ty the Guy

On 4/13/06, Neil < nfoster@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
> And as to the look of Tom's pencils.  I couldn't be happier with the
look of issue #3.  The pages are just the right balance of pencils and
colour.  You ALWAYS lose something when you add colour or inks to a
pencil line.  But we spend painstaking hours balancing the colour
layer to the pencil layer to get it just right.

-- Ty, as I don't buy many comics these days (compared to the vast
amounts that I used to) I was wondering if the use of inkers is dying
out? Is it easier to just colour over the pencils these days as with
the use of computers you can get the pencil lines to stand out more?
And did you decide to not use inkers as you like that pencilled look
or were there financial reasons that decided it for you?

Neil

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In a message dated 4/14/2006 3:50:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

or even Garvon

 

"Mike Garvon! . . . Male Prostitute."

   ~~~Dan Ackroid on SNL~~~~

 

That character isn't what it sounds like.

He was an aging Pro with glasses and a truss.

Not exactly what the young lady ordered from the ad.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/14/2006 8:29:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

  You'd want a dirty, unclean, unshaven woman...

 

And no conversation.

Though that can be a plus.

 

 

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um...basically a hippie goddess.

I'm there for that.

Ty

THAT letter was from Dave BALLARD?  Of course I know who Dave Ballard is...it was merely an accident that we didn't credit him with the letter.  As we receive letters, we put the ones we want to put in the letters column in a separate file in my computer, with original email address, and full name, etc.  This letter got put in the file without all that stuff, and by the time we came to send stuff to the printer, I couldn't find the original letter in my email files, so I had to apologize to the writer, not remembering who it was. 

Dave has been a great help with research and comments and naturally, I should have properly credited his letter writing.

My apologies to Dave.

Ty the Guy.

Yeah, I write all the back up stories.  My writing credit is on the first page of the story, down near the bottom of the page.  That page was so pretty, we put no dialogue on it (it was originally supposed to have a couple of caption balloons) and made the credits fairly small. 

ALSO: we get credited on the contents page.

But yes, the backup stories are all fully scripted by me.  The lead stories are scripted by Joe O'Brien, from a plot we wrote together.

Ty

thanks. looking foward to whatever you decide to continue with.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> I was going to try to integrate a story that used LAZARUS.
>
> I had the idea of Zaius being shown a find by Milo (or even Garvon -
> well before Milo to fit into the period of young Zira, or maybe even
> have Zaius find something on a dig).
>
> I wanted this story to explain why Zaius is so anti human
technology.
>
> So I imagined he found some sort of resuscitation device/evidence
of a
> pacemaker/something that humans use to "raise the dead" as such.
Maybe
> a defibulator.
>
> The irony would be that the technology results in Zaius' best friend
> (Lazarus) dying in a gruesome way. Eg they use the defibulator to
bring
> him back and instead it does so, but also creates a spark and sets
him
> on fire.
>
> This was the plan - to integrate it with the Zira story and have two
> different stories going, then maybe even find a way to link them.
>
> Sadly, the objective of the comics we are doing is not being met.
Our
> motive is simple - to give the fans stories they will like and
present
> them in a way they will either enjoy - or at least be stimulated to
> discuss. The other obvious motive is to get more comics in Neil's
> portfolio....now that's being met nicely! However, I keep
wondering if
> I should just let Neil go and do his Marvel Test Page.
>
> So anyway, Neil and I do have a comic in the pipeline and it really
is
> awesome.
>
> I enjoyed writing "Going Home", but we never should have continued
to
> try to re-do someone else's story and compromise/marry it with one
I had
> in mind. We just couldn't waste all those glorious post-
apocalyptic SF
> drawings, and I am very proud of what eventuated, but the new
project is
> what we'll be throwing most of out time into.
>
> I will encourage Neil to continue with T's story as we go.
>
> AND.....we might give you a peek at Planet of the Apes Begins
(original,
> eh?).
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of LordTZer0@...
> Sent: Friday, 14 April 2006 7:39 AM
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>
> In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:27:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> urko3085@... writes:
> Knowing that more characters from the film will eventually be
involved
> makes me even more eager to see what will happen next
>
> I'm glad someone is interested.
> I was beginning to think no one
> cared what was going on before
> Taylor got there and turned it all
> upside down. Thanks for the
> encouragement. Maybe Neil &
> Mike, or anyone else for that
> matter, have some ideas, they'd
> like to see incorporated into the
> story. There may be a couple
> of bases I haven't covered yet.
>
> --
>