Hunter has an excellent site as we all know. I wonder if he would be
willing, or have the space, to let us store our pics with him.


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- Yes a website, that could be a possibility. The only problem

though

> is who would maintain and run it? I know what a lot of work it is

just

> to keep this group going with very little computer savvy but who

would

> be willing to run a proper website?
>
>
> Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:05 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
>
> Or a website....
>

You can count me in on this. I have about 3 photo albums full of
photos.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster <nfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 1 May 2006 08:01:10 +1000
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New photos

Good idea T but we would probably have to set up a separate
group just to deal with the amount and size of files submitted I think!


Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
Of TZer0@...
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 5:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos


In a message dated 4/30/2006 2:11:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
johnbkirtley@... writes:
I would be totally into putting everything I could onto disc and then
sending it on?


I don't even think that's nessasary.
We have a photo archieve. Let's
just post all the disc candidates
into a file and then we'll all know
what's on there and prevent any
duplicates. Just submit the best
scan you can of your rarest stuff.




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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New photos

Hunter has an excellent site as we all know. I wonder if he would be
willing, or have the space, to let us store our pics with him.


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Yes a website, that could be a possibility. The only problem
though
> is who would maintain and run it? I know what a lot of work it is
just
> to keep this group going with very little computer savvy but who
would
> be willing to run a proper website?
> 
> 
> Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:05 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
>
> Or a website....
>

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.html OK I promised I would look into scanning all the pages  apesfan #2 and now I've done it. But there are issues to be hurdled before I can get them onto a website and this ties in directly with the new thread about creating an archive of movie still (and other pics).

I ended up scanning at 2 resolutions. The high end one come in at about 5 Mb per page (60 pages total) and the 'smaller' scans are at about 1 Mb/page. I think I can use a work PC with broadband to do the uploading BUT now I need a place to put them. The combined 60 small pages come in at close to 75 MB!

Along with developing a deeper appreciation to what Greg has had to do with the scanning of the comics (thanks again for those!) I've burned a CD with the highres and lowres Apesfan 2 images.

This is a continual problem even with my own internet gathered archive of POTA photos (movie stills and merchandise). I already once created 2 CDs so that I could send all I had to Micheal, and all that has grown considerable since them. I don't think creating Yahoo groups is going to solve the problem.

Hunter already has a humoungous (sp?) site already. But if possible, I'd like to put these somewhere else so as to ease his burden.
So does anyone have any spare web space to which I can post the files?
I can easily create a simple web page to allow for accessing the pics.

Ideas?

Dario

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola 
<darios@...> wrote:
  

Sorry. When I said their was 'a scan' of the second issue I meant a scan
    

of the cover, not the entire zine. The second issue is big (60 pgs). I
    

lot bigger than issue 1. There are photos on almost every page including
    

some pages that are full photo shots. All the photos are VERY clear. 
    

(Hey, I told you that this was a top nothch 'zine!).

I could attempt to scan it but I don't think my cheap scanner could
handle it. I would hate to scan it at a low resolution that would loose
    

detail of the pictures and another problem my be the text as it is quite
    

dense with a relatively small font. If I do scan it I would still have a
    

problem posting it online as the files would be very large and aside
from all the disk space it would take, it would take me ages if I
uploaded it from home as I only have dialup.

Let me test out a few pages sometime this week to see if I can handle it
    

and somehow get it to Hunters site.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
Date: Friday, April 21, 2006 6:45 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Apesfan

    

I only get the cover when I go to this link.

Is there a way to see the entire magazine?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On 
      

Behalf
  

Of John Brandon Kirtley
Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2006 7:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Apesfan

      

Here is a scan of the 2nd issue (this is a Roddy
tribute site):
http://xmoppet.org/scans/apesfan.html"

          

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Hey all, I made a folder in the photo section titled simply, photos.
In it is a pic titled 3 riders. Any one know if this is a cut scene
from Planet?
John
Oh, any one can post to this folder. I didn't want to intrude on any
one elses folders so I made my own.

WOW, I didn't know he wasn't a member of the DG. Sorry all!!! Didn't
do my home work on this end.
John

In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

>
> I'd actually kinda want him to be a member of the DG first if you

know

> what I mean?
>
> Sorta silly contributing to making his site better when he refuses

to

> even be a member of the DG, or contribute in any way to us.
>
> So maybe I'll host the site if that's the way we go.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of luke_the_drifter52
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:16 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
> Hunter has an excellent site as we all know. I wonder if he would

be

> willing, or have the space, to let us store our pics with him.
>
>
> In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > -- Yes a website, that could be a possibility. The only problem
> though
> > is who would maintain and run it? I know what a lot of work it

is

> just
> > to keep this group going with very little computer savvy but who
> would
> > be willing to run a proper website?
> >
> >
> > Neil
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Michael Whitty
> > Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:05 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
> >
> >
> > Or a website....
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:34 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New photos

WOW, I didn't know he wasn't a member of the DG. Sorry all!!! Didn't
do my home work on this end.
John

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That's the best idea....put pics into one file...then
I suppose everyone could just download them and make
their own disc! If they dont have the capability to
burn then maybe someone could make one and copies and
send them out.

I also think this shoudl be JUST pics. There is a disc
with video footage rarities being to put together by
someone in the other group which we can't talk about
on here....! ;)

Tim

--- TZer0@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/30/2006 2:11:48 P.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> johnbkirtley@... writes:
>
> I would be totally into putting everything I could
> onto disc and then
> sending it on?
>
>
>
> I don't even think that's nessasary.
> We have a photo archieve. Let's
> just post all the disc candidates
> into a file and then we'll all know
> what's on there and prevent any
> duplicates. Just submit the best
> scan you can of your rarest stuff.
>
>
>

Hunter's site could probably host these....

Tim

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Please go ahead - if nothing else we could share
> them on the group and
> maybe find a website interested in hosting them!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Brandon Kirtley
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 5:15 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
> Dear All,
>
> I could try and put these Japanese movie POTA
> programmes into some kind
> of file to put onto the disc also the Monster Mag
> (that big American
> newspaper thingy) articles with the gorilla child on
> the set.
>
> JBK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: luke_the_drifter52
> <mailto:JLKINSER1970@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 30 April 2006 03:31
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
> I am very interested in a project like this. Would
> we be including
> any movie files? I have a few short movies from
> Beneath that were
> proably left on the cutting room floor and I also
> have the Serta
> commercial.
> John
>
>
> In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> <whitty@...> wrote:
> >
> > Good idea.
> >
> > Who is interested?
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of TZer0@...
> > Sent: Sunday, 30 April 2006 4:56 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
> >
> > In a message dated 4/29/2006 12:19:45 P.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> > apefan23@... writes:
> > tell me about it...they could have easily
> contacted
> > any of us much less Joe Russo ....between us all
> we
> > could have filled up a whole bonus disc!
> >
> > Perhaps that should be one of the group projects.
> > Both Fox and those POTA snipers on eBay
> > would probably hate it if we made out own
> > image disc of all of our rarest stills. Then
> > we'd never have to shop for them on eBay
> > again. Or buy a new release just because
> > it came with a gallery. Ha haa...Suckers!
> >
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
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Ok sorry I didnt know he wasnt in here either!

I'm thinking we are going to have a ton of rare
pics......!

I'm thinking the best way to do this is first gather
them on a yahoo group because 1. it's free and 2.
wouldn't take as much work as putting up and
maintaining a website. If we fill that one up we start
another. I know several Yahoo groups that have many
"chapters".

As far as the disc goes.....Then anyone who CAN burn
discs can pick and choose which ones they want to keep
(or just even keep them on their hardrives). For us
who can not burn (although I plan to be able to do
this soon) , maybe we can pick out the ones we want
and someone else can burn one ....I mean burn a
disc!.....for us ...and arrange compensation. That way
one person would not be saddled with making one for
everybody.

Tim

--- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

> Hunter's site could probably host these....
>
> Tim
>
> --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> > Please go ahead - if nothing else we could share
> > them on the group and
> > maybe find a website interested in hosting them!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of John Brandon Kirtley
> > Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 5:15 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I could try and put these Japanese movie POTA
> > programmes into some kind
> > of file to put onto the disc also the Monster Mag
> > (that big American
> > newspaper thingy) articles with the gorilla child
> on
> > the set.
> >
> > JBK
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: luke_the_drifter52
> > <mailto:JLKINSER1970@...>
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: 30 April 2006 03:31
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
> >
> > I am very interested in a project like this. Would
> > we be including
> > any movie files? I have a few short movies from
> > Beneath that were
> > proably left on the cutting room floor and I also
> > have the Serta
> > commercial.
> > John
> >
> >
> > In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> > <whitty@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good idea.
> > >
> > > Who is interested?
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of TZer0@...
> > > Sent: Sunday, 30 April 2006 4:56 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
> > >
> > > In a message dated 4/29/2006 12:19:45 P.M.
> Central
> > Daylight Time,
> > > apefan23@... writes:
> > > tell me about it...they could have easily
> > contacted
> > > any of us much less Joe Russo ....between us all
> > we
> > > could have filled up a whole bonus disc!
> > >
> > > Perhaps that should be one of the group
> projects.
> > > Both Fox and those POTA snipers on eBay
> > > would probably hate it if we made out own
> > > image disc of all of our rarest stills. Then
> > > we'd never have to shop for them on eBay
> > > again. Or buy a new release just because
> > > it came with a gallery. Ha haa...Suckers!
> > >
> > >
> > > SPONSORED LINKS
> > >
> > > Fantasy
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> > t=ms&k=Fantasy+science+fiction&w1=Fantasy+
> > >
> >
>

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> > ict
> > > ion&c=6&s=173&.sig=017KWaoRfoc_Bi4z3bv5Mg>
> > fiction novel
> > > Writing
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> > t=ms&k=Writing+science+fiction&w1=Fantasy+
> > >
> >
>

science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club

> > &w4
> > >
> >
>

=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science

> > +fi
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> > science fiction
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> > > _____
> > >
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
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Those are cool....That is Zira Cornelius and I guess
Lucius on the way to the Forbidden ZOne....not sure
that actual shot is in the movie tho...

I have never seen the pic of Brent in the hallway
before.....!

--- luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@...>
wrote:

> Hey all, I made a folder in the photo section titled
> simply, photos.
> In it is a pic titled 3 riders. Any one know if this
> is a cut scene
> from Planet?
> John
> Oh, any one can post to this folder. I didn't want
> to intrude on any
> one elses folders so I made my own.
>
>
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 9:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Unknown Photo

Those are cool....That is Zira Cornelius and I guess
Lucius on the way to the Forbidden ZOne....

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In a message dated 4/30/2006 5:02:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

Good idea T but we would probably have to set up a separate group just to deal with the amount and size of files submitted I think!

 

What about POTA Discussion Group Photos?

Isn't there for the group's photos? 

 

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I have never seen the Brnet photo either. I assume that it is a cut
scene or a publicity shot.
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

>
> Those are cool....That is Zira Cornelius and I guess
> Lucius on the way to the Forbidden ZOne....not sure
> that actual shot is in the movie tho...
>
> I have never seen the pic of Brent in the hallway
> before.....!
>
> --- luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey all, I made a folder in the photo section titled
> > simply, photos.
> > In it is a pic titled 3 riders. Any one know if this
> > is a cut scene
> > from Planet?
> > John
> > Oh, any one can post to this folder. I didn't want
> > to intrude on any
> > one elses folders so I made my own.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

I don't know. That sure does look like Roddy McDowall as Cornelius
and not David Watson to me.
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- Or is it? Maybe it is that cut scene from Beneath where

Cornelius,

> Zira and Milo ride out to the restored spaceship?!
>
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 9:21 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Unknown Photo
>
>
> Those are cool....That is Zira Cornelius and I guess
> Lucius on the way to the Forbidden ZOne....
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 10:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Unknown Photo

I don't know. That sure does look like Roddy McDowall as Cornelius
and not David Watson to me.

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LOL!!! Well, when I first saw it I thouhgt it was a missing Beneath
scene.

In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- Sorry, I was just joking around!
>
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of luke_the_drifter52
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 10:02 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Unknown Photo
>
>
> I don't know. That sure does look like Roddy McDowall as Cornelius
> and not David Watson to me.
>

My Planet of the Apes folder on my computer is 1.73 GB worth of Apes.
Almost 4000 files and 55 sub folders worth of photos, comics, sound
bytes, movie clips, you name it collected over the years. It is truly
the main reason I even have a computer. I would be willing to share
it all, especially if there is a chance of getting anything I don't
already have added to my stash.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Good idea T but we would probably have to set up a separate group
just
> to deal with the amount and size of files submitted I think!
>
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of TZer0@...
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 5:54 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/30/2006 2:11:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> johnbkirtley@... writes:
>
> I would be totally into putting everything I could onto disc and
then
> sending it on?
>
>
> I don't even think that's nessasary.
> We have a photo archieve. Let's
> just post all the disc candidates
> into a file and then we'll all know
> what's on there and prevent any
> duplicates. Just submit the best
> scan you can of your rarest stuff.
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Fantasy
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Fantasy+science+fiction&w1=Fantasy+
>
science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club&
w4
>
=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science+
fi
> ction&c=6&s=173&.sig=EtyUzBleFbEs_d3lq261tw> science fiction
Science
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Science+fiction+books&w1=Fantasy+sc
>
ience+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club&w4
=S
>
cience+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science+fi
ct
> ion&c=6&s=173&.sig=rMIUepDl53Gghql0memanw> fiction books
Science
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Science+fiction+book+club&w1=Fantas
>
y+science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+clu
b&
>
w4=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+scienc
e+
> fiction&c=6&s=173&.sig=GINuxsxCX_lvcwW3qhorTg> fiction book club

> Science
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Science+fiction+magazine&w1=Fantasy
>
+science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club
&w
>
4=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science
+f
> iction&c=6&s=173&.sig=6slFgJQPWdkNBWmovIXB2w> fiction magazine
Science
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Science+fiction+novel&w1=Fantasy+sc
>
ience+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club&w4
=S
>
cience+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science+fi
ct
> ion&c=6&s=173&.sig=017KWaoRfoc_Bi4z3bv5Mg> fiction novel
Writing
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
t=ms&k=Writing+science+fiction&w1=Fantasy+
>
science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club&
w4
>
=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science+
fi
> ction&c=6&s=173&.sig=WMu77GyfjRdUsZT4jYYvDA> science fiction
>
> _____
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>
> * Visit your group "PotaDG
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG>
> " on the web.
>
>
> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
>
> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service <
>
>
> _____
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 11:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New photos

My Planet of the Apes folder on my computer is 1.73 GB worth of Apes.
Almost 4000 files and 55 sub folders worth of photos, comics, sound
bytes, movie clips, you name it collected over the years. It is truly
the main reason I even have a computer. I would be willing to share
it all, especially if there is a chance of getting anything I don't
already have added to my stash.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 9:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos

What about POTA Discussion Group Photos?

Isn't there for the group's photos? 

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Looks like we are going to have to burn more than one disc to hold
all of the stuff. Might have to put them on a burnable DVD since it
has more storage space.


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

>
> My Planet of the Apes folder on my computer is 1.73 GB worth of

Apes.

> Almost 4000 files and 55 sub folders worth of photos, comics,

sound

> bytes, movie clips, you name it collected over the years. It is

truly

> the main reason I even have a computer. I would be willing to

share

> it all, especially if there is a chance of getting anything I

don't

> already have added to my stash.
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > Good idea T but we would probably have to set up a separate

group

> just
> > to deal with the amount and size of files submitted I think!
> >
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf
> > Of TZer0@
> > Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 5:54 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/30/2006 2:11:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > johnbkirtley@ writes:
> >
> > I would be totally into putting everything I could onto disc and
> then
> > sending it on?
> >
> >
> > I don't even think that's nessasary.
> > We have a photo archieve. Let's
> > just post all the disc candidates
> > into a file and then we'll all know
> > what's on there and prevent any
> > duplicates. Just submit the best
> > scan you can of your rarest stuff.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> > Fantasy
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Fantasy+science+fiction&w1=Fantasy+
> >
>

science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club
&

> w4
> >
>

=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science
+

> fi
> > ction&c=6&s=173&.sig=EtyUzBleFbEs_d3lq261tw> science fiction
> Science
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Science+fiction+books&w1=Fantasy+sc
> >
>

ience+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club&w
4

> =S
> >
>

cience+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science+f
i

> ct
> > ion&c=6&s=173&.sig=rMIUepDl53Gghql0memanw> fiction books
> Science
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Science+fiction+book+club&w1=Fantas
> >
>

y+science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+cl
u

> b&
> >
>

w4=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+scien
c

> e+
> > fiction&c=6&s=173&.sig=GINuxsxCX_lvcwW3qhorTg> fiction book club
>
> > Science
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Science+fiction+magazine&w1=Fantasy
> >
>

+science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+clu
b

> &w
> >
>

4=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+scienc
e

> +f
> > iction&c=6&s=173&.sig=6slFgJQPWdkNBWmovIXB2w> fiction magazine
> Science
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Science+fiction+novel&w1=Fantasy+sc
> >
>

ience+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club&w
4

> =S
> >
>

cience+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science+f
i

> ct
> > ion&c=6&s=173&.sig=017KWaoRfoc_Bi4z3bv5Mg> fiction novel
> Writing
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
> t=ms&k=Writing+science+fiction&w1=Fantasy+
> >
>

science+fiction&w2=Science+fiction+books&w3=Science+fiction+book+club
&

> w4
> >
>

=Science+fiction+magazine&w5=Science+fiction+novel&w6=Writing+science
+

> fi
> > ction&c=6&s=173&.sig=WMu77GyfjRdUsZT4jYYvDA> science fiction

> >
> > _____
> >
> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> >
> >
> >
> > * Visit your group "PotaDG
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG>
> > " on the web.
> >
> >
> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
> >
> >
> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service <
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New photos

Sounds great!

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That would be great Neil!!!
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- I'd also be willing to share some of my original artwork. For

example

> things like illustrations that were used in Simian Scrolls but were
> cropped to fit with the text or had to be reproduced so small that

a lot

> of the detail was lost.
>
>
> Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:04 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
>
> Sounds great!
>

I ended up scanning at 2 resolutions. The high end one come in at about 5 Mb per page (60 pages total) and the 'smaller' scans are at about 1 Mb/page. I think I can use a work PC with broadband to do the uploading BUT now I need a place to put them. The combined 60 small pages come in at close to 75 MB!

Along with developing a deeper appreciation to what Greg has had to do with the scanning of the comics (thanks again for those!) I've burned a CD with the highres and lowres Apesfan 2 images.

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Thanks for the tips Greg. I thought about reducing the resolution
further to see if the resulting jpgs would still be legible. I'm going
to dig into my arsenal of tools and utilities to see which program can
do that easily enough. I just don't want to have to rescan them if at
all possible as that was the long and tedious process (1 and a half
playoff hockey games, with commercials, to be exact.) My HP scanner
must do a double scan process to first get a rough picture and then
once exact outline, save format and save resolution, etc, are chosen,
it does another scan.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...>
Date: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Apesfan #2 alll scanned.

> I went through a lot of trial and error trying to find the right
> compromise between image resolution/quality and file size. What I
> use for the Marvel UK comics is 150 dpi and low-quality jpegs
> (level 3 on a 1-10 scale). I actually scan the pages at 300 dpi
> and as maximum quality jpegs and downconvert them in Photoshop
> after doing any clean-up work that's necessary. I find I get a
> better end result than if I start with a 150 dpi / low quality
> jpeg scan. The final pages are about 300 kb each.
>
> You may want to try a few different resolutions, printing
> samples of each and seeing how low you can go before you feel the
> result is unacceptable.
>
> Greg
>
> Dario <darios@...> wrote:
> I ended up scanning at 2 resolutions. The high end one come in
> at about 5 Mb per page (60 pages total) and the 'smaller' scans
> are at about 1 Mb/page. I think I can use a work PC with broadband
> to do the uploading BUT now I need a place to put them. The
> combined 60 small pages come in at close to 75 MB!
>
> Along with developing a deeper appreciation to what Greg has had
> to do with the scanning of the comics (thanks again for those!)
> I've burned a CD with the highres and lowres Apesfan 2 images.
>
>

He was, then he left, then he came back, then he left.

 

Anyway, my opinion (and Hunter’s – I have read it expressed more than once) is that “Hunter’s Site” is not really HIS site – he just (very kindly) provides and enormous wealth of space.

 

What a shame that when he did sorta name it, he went with “HG/JA”.

 

If anyone were entitled to get their initials on the site it would be Greg for all he has done for it.   “JA” hasn’t really done shit for “Hunter’s Site” except for organise the layout.  What a joke!  J

 

Hey – let’s petition Fox to change the site name to HG/GP!  ;)

Michael

Thanks for the tips Greg. I thought about reducing the resolution
further to see if the resulting jpgs would still be legible. I'm going
to dig into my arsenal of tools and utilities to see which program can
do that easily enough. I just don't want to have to rescan them if at
all possible as that was the long and tedious process (1 and a half
playoff hockey games, with commercials, to be exact.) My HP scanner
must do a double scan process to first get a rough picture and then
once exact outline, save format and save resolution, etc, are chosen,
it does another scan.

Dario

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You could be right neil....doesn't look like
lucius.....!

--- Neil T Foster <nfoster@...> wrote:

> -- Or is it? Maybe it is that cut scene from Beneath
> where Cornelius,
> Zira and Milo ride out to the restored spaceship?!
>
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 9:21 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Unknown Photo
>
>
> Those are cool....That is Zira Cornelius and I guess
> Lucius on the way to the Forbidden ZOne....
>
>

How do you check this? on a MAc.....it won't tell me
the size of a folder just for each individual
folder...

--- Neil T Foster <nfoster@...> wrote:

> -- I know how you feel, I just checked mine and I
> have 2.08 GB of POTA
> stuff! I didn't realise it had got this far out of
> hand!!
>
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John
> Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 11:09 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New photos
>
>
> My Planet of the Apes folder on my computer is 1.73
> GB worth of Apes.
> Almost 4000 files and 55 sub folders worth of
> photos, comics, sound
> bytes, movie clips, you name it collected over the
> years. It is truly
> the main reason I even have a computer. I would be
> willing to share
> it all, especially if there is a chance of getting
> anything I don't
> already have added to my stash.
>
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 1:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New photos

How do you check this? on a MAc.....it won't tell me
the size of a folder just for each individual
folder...

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I also liked Burton's P.O.T.A. even though it didn't have anywhere
near the quality of the original! I guess there won't be any sequal
to Burton's Apes, even though it did very well at the box office. I
really wanted to see the apes in that modern city, which was the idea
for the orginal before they realized it would cost too much.

I can't wait to see Peter Jackson give it a try!!! The info I got
was from the TV show sci-fi buzz. They claim Peter Jackson and 20th
Century fox are working out a deal and that Peter Jackson is going
over scripts. I hope for a 2007 release!

If anyone hears any more news, let us know...

--- In theplanetoftheapeszone@yahoogroups.com, drinnenber
<no_reply@...> wrote:

>
> --- In theplanetoftheapeszone@yahoogroups.com,

raven33781_99

> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > 20th

Century Fox Director Peter Jackson who made KING KONG, is
set

> to
> > direct a new version of PLANET OF THE APES!!!
> >
> > Will Ape fans get behind this???
> >
>
>

I've heard nothing of this. Where are you getting your information

>

from?

>
> This would a spectacular IMO. While I enjoyed Burton's

Apes, I

> wasn't blown away like I'd hoped to be. Blown away like Batman
> Begins blew me away, completely anihalating the previous
>

installments. For years I thought I'd be stuck with the '76 Kong

> being

the crap remake of the classic, but Jackson put that bad

> feeling down

by doing it right.

>
> And not that I think Burton's is total crap,

how sweet if PJ would

> do the same for POTA.
>

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In a message dated 5/1/2006 6:04:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

The one thing POTA fans need is solidarity.

 

I think it all comes down to being able to speak your mind, and say things like...

 

 "JA" hasn't really done shit for "Hunter's Site"

 

I would often get chastised for making such a statement on the "other" group.

Not only for language, but for making an inflammatory remark.  Now that I'm

using a different screen name on this group, to stop the bouncing

problem, I'm more aware of which group I am replying to, and

don't make the mistake of speaking my mind on that group.

 

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In a message dated 5/1/2006 6:03:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

They claim Peter Jackson and 20th
Century fox are working out a deal and that Peter Jackson is going
over scripts. I hope for a 2007 release!

 

Is this a hoax, or what?

 

 

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I need some help identifying this .....got it off
ebay.....seller said it was from a kit but he didn't
make it....does anyone know any info on this? is it a
resin kit? He said it was the Lawgiver and I was
thinking it sure looks more like Mandemus but after
getting it it does look like Huston's
Lawgiver!......What's with Lawgiver, mandemus and TV
Zaius having bangs anyway? That always bothered
me...and whiskers high on the cheeks......

Tim

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> Here are costume test shots of Natalie, Felix Silla,
> Paul Lambert, a mutant extra, Roddy as Caesar, a
> female chimp (actress named Tiare?), and the very cute
> assistant to Dr. Galen who I was wondering about just
> the other day...can anyone make out her name?
>
> Tim

Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn Botelho.

Anthony

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 2:20 PM
To: planetoftheapescollecting@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Resin bust? Apes with bangs?

I need some help identifying this .....got it off
ebay.....seller said it was from a kit but he didn't
make it....does anyone know any info on this? is it a
resin kit? He said it was the Lawgiver and I was
thinking it sure looks more like Mandemus but after
getting it it does look like Huston's
Lawgiver

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In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:54:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, abmac@... writes:

Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn Botelho.

 

Wow!  How the hell did you know that?

It's not listed on the IMDB.  In fact the

only thing I can find on the Net is that

she played a child in Miss Sadie Thompson (1953)

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:54:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, abmac@... writes:

Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn Botelho.

 

Wow!  How the hell did you know that?

It's not listed on the IMDB.  In fact the

only thing I can find on the Net is that

she played a child in Miss Sadie Thompson (1953)

 

 

 

 

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My guess is that it may have taken longer in the
makeup chair to do 'em up in orangutan makeups with
the non-bangs type of wigs & hairpieces they used.
Maybe Huston, Colman & Ayres had the 'pull' to get 'em
to shorten the makeup-applying time, so that they had
to put on easier-to-apply appliances. Maybe. I dunno,
though. The POTA orangutans look less like real
orangutans than do the chimps and gorillas. One thing
that Burton's film did right was the orang makeups,
especially that orang senator character. But I still
like classic POTA's chimp makeups. Ari looks like
she's half human, like a hybrid/chimera, and Thade
looks like he's always angry. There was no range of
emotion in his makeups -- he's always pissed off. Kim
& Roddy were able to express the gamut of emotions
through their appliances, but Thade had only one
emotion. What a waste.

Patrick


--- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

What's with Lawgiver, mandemus and TV Zaius having
bangs anyway? That always bothered me...and whiskers
high on the cheeks......

I have no idea as to it's origins but man is that a nice bust.
Congrats.

Definitely looks like Huston to me. I actually like the look they gave
his makeup. His features portray an elder man who just reeks of
wisdom.

What are the dimensions? Any markings on the bottom or back?

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 0:19 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Resin bust? Apes with bangs?

> I need some help identifying this .....got it off
> ebay.....seller said it was from a kit but he didn't
> make it....does anyone know any info on this? is it a
> resin kit? He said it was the Lawgiver and I was
> thinking it sure looks more like Mandemus but after
> getting it it does look like Huston's
> Lawgiver!......What's with Lawgiver, mandemus and TV
> Zaius having bangs anyway? That always bothered
> me...and whiskers high on the cheeks......
>
> Tim
>
>

I've always had a hard time categorizing the Burton movie ape makeup,
because I grew up with the 'Classic' look and am therefore attached to
it. Chamber's developed a unique style that he applied across the 3
simian lines in a similar manner with minor (but definitive)
alterations to suit each.

In the Burton movie, Rick Baker aimed at getting the look to be as
close to the real animal as possible, with the exception of Ari, that
as you say doesn't make any sense at all and looks like MJ ('Jacko')
after WAY to many visits to the plastic surgeon.

But for many of the other apes, Baker DID succeed in his goal. When it
came to the ourangutans he also covered both variants, the senator
with the puffed face band and the more common goofy looking
Limbo/Giammatti. Thade was not a makeup failure. The problem with
Thade was in the lousy script, in that he had a unwavering angry
character throughout the movie. Had the script given some semblance of
a personality, it would have been a lot better. (What really irks me
on this point is that the character HAD exactly that chance when
seeing his father at his deathbed. A missed opportunity.) The gorillas
too were more like their actual counterparts. I thought it was great
to have a silverback type Gorilla with actual grey hair.

So as much as I like and prefer the classic look, I will give credit
to Baker for at least trying something different and having some
success to achieving his goals. I suspect that if the Burton movie had
had a worthy script, I would have embraced the new makeup, albeit
grudgingly

Except for Ari. That makeup just gives me the creeps.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Tilton <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 8:54 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Resin bust? Apes with bangs?

> My guess is that it may have taken longer in the
> makeup chair to do 'em up in orangutan makeups with
> the non-bangs type of wigs & hairpieces they used.
> Maybe Huston, Colman & Ayres had the 'pull' to get 'em
> to shorten the makeup-applying time, so that they had
> to put on easier-to-apply appliances. Maybe. I dunno,
> though. The POTA orangutans look less like real
> orangutans than do the chimps and gorillas. One thing
> that Burton's film did right was the orang makeups,
> especially that orang senator character. But I still
> like classic POTA's chimp makeups. Ari looks like
> she's half human, like a hybrid/chimera, and Thade
> looks like he's always angry. There was no range of
> emotion in his makeups -- he's always pissed off. Kim
> & Roddy were able to express the gamut of emotions
> through their appliances, but Thade had only one
> emotion. What a waste.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> What's with Lawgiver, mandemus and TV Zaius having
> bangs anyway? That always bothered me...and whiskers
> high on the cheeks......
>
>
>

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Don't get me wrong, I think Rick Baker generally does
magnificent work -- especially with apes ("GORILLAS IN
THE MIST" anyone?...) -- and I'm not dissing his Thade
makeups. It just bothers me that the original POTA
makeups were put to better use, where characters could
express a range of emotions, unlike how Thade was a
one-note-wonder of Anger. And, yes, Ari's makeups
creep me out, too... and it just goes to show how
clueless Tim Burton was. He wanted her to look
attractive to us humans, and it backfired. AND, he was
missing the whole point. In the original PLANET, Zira
kissed Taylor despite the fact that in her eyes he was
"so damned ugly". It is the ability to see the inner
beauty of an outwardly 'ugly' being that made that
interspecies kiss so meaningful.

It was the inability of Zaius to see in Man anything
that was beautiful that enabled him to agree with the
Lawgiver's unwavering animosity towards the human
animal. Sure, he mentioned "Man's wisdom" (i.e. the
ability to devise a technologically superior
civilization), but only to contrast it with "his
idiocy" -- his tendency to use that high-tech to be
destructive, to "give battle to everything around him,
even himself!"

I wonder what Zaius would've thought of Man if he had
listened to recordings of symphonies... seen the
paintings in our museums... seen videotaped examples
of humans living peacefully and happily... He seems to
have gotten a one-sided view of Man based on a skewed
view of the available evidence. For all he knows of
Man that the other apes DON'T know, he's still
woefully ignorant. He only knows more of what was
wrong with Mankind -- but not, it seems, hardly
anything at all of what was right and good.

His one-sided, skewed view of Man, ultimately, leads
to his refusal to help Taylor at the crucial moment...
He virtually goads Taylor into detonating the Bomb.
He's just seen Ursus' gorilla army destroy the
civilization of mutant humans, and then snipes that
"Man is evil, capable of nothing but destruction!"
What a hypocrite!

Patrick

P.S. In my "last episode" of the TV series portion of
my epic-in-progress, I have a scene where Virdon &
Burke have found an intact ANSA archive of all sorts
of human artifacts (with Urko not around to force 'em
to leave it behind to be destroyed, like in "THE
LEGACY"). And they'll play back -- for the first time
in 1,100 years or so -- symphonic music... choral
orchestrations... music that Galen could never have
imagined to exist. Music to move him to tears. At a
time when Galen is acquiring a fuller education
regarding Man's destructive nature (nuked ruins, etc),
he'll have to weigh this OTHER evidence in the scales
as he's tempted to judge Man the same way that Zaius
does, though Zaius has only seen the evidence of Man's
evil, destructive side. Galen's friendship with the
astronauts will have been put to the test, and he'll
be tempted to reject them and rejoin the Ape world he
was forced to leave behind -- if they'll have him
back, that is. But, will the music he hears tip the
scales in Man's favor...?

----------------------------------------------------

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> The look of the apes......
>
> I wonder what Chambers would have come up with using
> today's technology?
>
> I also wonder if his task was to design for a
> cartoon - what would he
> have done?
>
> Or if he had CGI.
>
> Would they have looked like real apes with clothes?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dario Sciola
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:28 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Chambers vs Baker
>
> I've always had a hard time categorizing the Burton

movie ape makeup, because I grew up with the 'Classic'
look and am therefore attached to it. Chamber's
developed a unique style that he applied across the 3
simian lines in a similar manner with minor (but
definitive) alterations to suit each.

>
> In the Burton movie, Rick Baker aimed at getting the

look to be as close to the real animal as possible,
with the exception of Ari, that as you say doesn't
make any sense at all and looks like MJ ('Jacko')
after WAY to many visits to the plastic surgeon.

>
> But for many of the other apes, Baker DID succeed in

his goal. When it came to the ourangutans he also
covered both variants, the senator with the puffed
face band and the more common goofy looking
Limbo/Giammatti. Thade was not a makeup failure.

> The problem with Thade was in the lousy script, in

that he had a unwavering angry character throughout
the movie. Had the script given some semblance of a
personality, it would have been a lot better. (What
really irks me on this point is that the character HAD
exactly that chance when seeing his father at his
deathbed. A missed opportunity.) The gorillas too were
more like their actual counterparts. I thought it was
great to have a silverback type Gorilla with actual
grey hair.

>
> So as much as I like and prefer the classic look, I

will give credit to Baker for at least trying
something different and having some success to
achieving his goals. I suspect that if the Burton
movie had had a worthy script, I would have embraced
the new makeup, albeit grudgingly

>
> Except for Ari. That makeup just gives me the
> creeps.
>
> Dario
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Tilton
> <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
> Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 8:54 am
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Resin bust? Apes with bangs?
>
> > My guess is that it may have taken longer in the

makeup chair to do 'em up in orangutan makeups with
the non-bangs type of wigs & hairpieces they used.
Maybe Huston, Colman & Ayres had the 'pull' to get 'em
to shorten the makeup-applying time, so that they had
to put on easier-to-apply appliances. Maybe. I dunno,
though. The POTA orangutans look less like real
orangutans than do the chimps and gorillas. One thing
that Burton's film did right was the orang makeups,
especially that orang senator character. But I still
like classic POTA's chimp makeups. Ari looks like
she's half human, like a hybrid/chimera, and Thade
looks like he's always angry. There was no range of
emotion in his makeups -- he's always pissed off. Kim
& Roddy were able to express the gamut of emotions
through their appliances, but Thade had only one
emotion. What a waste.

> >
> > Patrick

The list says that Erlynn Botelho played the
"Chimpanzee Woman" -- but that doesn't necessarily
mean Dr. Galen's assistant. Remember when Taylor was
loose in the Zaius Museum? He runs into a Chimpanzee
Woman who's with her son ("Come ON, Quentin!" she
tells him, just before). Maybe Erlynn played THAT
chimpette. How do we know which one? How CAN we know?
It's too bad that Fox didn't put ALL the names of the
people involved in the production in their movies' End
Credits sequences until years later. How long would
the credits of PLANET have been, IF they had done so?
Just the number of makeup people alone would've taken
a couple minutes to scroll up!

Patrick


--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> That's awesome Anthony!
>
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>
> > In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:54:58 P.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> > abmac@... writes:
> >
> > Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn
> Botelho.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow! How the hell did you know that?
> > It's not listed on the IMDB. In fact the
> > only thing I can find on the Net is that
> > she played a child in Miss Sadie Thompson (1953)
>
> "The Great American Movie Book" lists many cast
> members who weren't
> credited
> on film. Among them is Erlynn Botelho, although it
> only says that she
> played a
> chimpanzee woman. Since the placard for Dr. Galen's
> assistant says "E
> Botelho," it has to be her.
>
> Here's the complete cast from TGAMB:
>
> George Taylor - Charlton Heston
> Cornelius - Roddy McDowall
> Dr. Zira - Kim Hunter
> Dr. Zaius - Maurice Evans
> President of the Assembly - James Whitmore
> Honorius - James Daly
> Nova - Linda Harrison
> Landon - Robert Gunner
> Lucius - Lou Wagner
> Maximus - Woodrow Parfrey
> Dodge - Jeff Burton
> Julius - Buck Kartalian
> Hunt Leader - Norman Burton
> Dr. Galen - Wright King
> Minister - Paul Lambert
> First Human - Priscilla Boyd
> Human - Jane Ross
> Astronaut Stewart - Dianne Stanley
> Ape Photographer/Gorilla - Robert Lombardo
> Child Gorilla - Felix Silla
> Child Apes - Billy Curtis, Harry Monty, Frank
> Delfino, Jerry Maren,
> Emory
> Souza, Buddy Douglas
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> Chimpanzees - Cass Martin, Smokey Roberds, George
> Sasaki, David Chow,
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Speaking of Beatles-related stuff, the 2nd volume of
the American CAPITOL RECORDS Beatles box sets is in
stores now. I ordered one (cheaper) through an online
store (Barnes & Noble, with member discount), and it
should arrive any day now. I've held off buying the
Brit Beatles CD releases since I grew up listening to
the American versions -- "Meet the Beatles", etc. It
just feels 'wrong' somehow to listen to their songs in
a different order than I grew up doing...

And, for those of you non-U.S.A. Beatles fans out
there, the American release of the "HELP!" soundtrack
began with a kick-ass James Bondian intro that is
missing on the Brit release. I can't WAIT to pop that
disc in my CD player and hear it again -- I haven't
listened to my vinyl albums in well over 15 years!

Patrick


--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> This arrived at 11:40 pm!!!
>
> Hey - are they NAKED?!?!?!
>
> When will you do Aba-daba- Road (Said the monkey to
> the chimp)?
> Michael
>
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> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Neil T Foster
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 7:47 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Coming to a venue near you soon...
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Thanks Anthony!

--- abmac@... wrote:

> > Here are costume test shots of Natalie, Felix
> Silla,
> > Paul Lambert, a mutant extra, Roddy as Caesar, a
> > female chimp (actress named Tiare?), and the very
> cute
> > assistant to Dr. Galen who I was wondering about
> just
> > the other day...can anyone make out her name?
> >
> > Tim
>
> Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn Botelho.
>
> Anthony> Here are costume test shots of Natalie,

Felix Silla,

> Paul Lambert, a mutant extra, Roddy as Caesar, a
> female chimp (actress named Tiare?), and the very
> cute
> assistant to Dr. Galen who I was wondering about
> just
> the other day...can anyone make out her name?
>
> Tim
>
> --- Haristas@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 4/27/06 8:36:56 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time, PofTAfan@...
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > Here's photo number 2.
> > >
> >
> > That's a really cool photo. That's a costume test
> > shot of McDowall. I've
> > never seen it before.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>
>

Agreed...and you're right, it probably was a
time/money saving change.

--- Patrick Tilton <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
wrote:

> My guess is that it may have taken longer in the
> makeup chair to do 'em up in orangutan makeups with
> the non-bangs type of wigs & hairpieces they used.
> Maybe Huston, Colman & Ayres had the 'pull' to get
> 'em
> to shorten the makeup-applying time, so that they
> had
> to put on easier-to-apply appliances. Maybe. I
> dunno,
> though. The POTA orangutans look less like real
> orangutans than do the chimps and gorillas. One
> thing
> that Burton's film did right was the orang makeups,
> especially that orang senator character. But I still
> like classic POTA's chimp makeups. Ari looks like
> she's half human, like a hybrid/chimera, and Thade
> looks like he's always angry. There was no range of
> emotion in his makeups -- he's always pissed off.
> Kim
> & Roddy were able to express the gamut of emotions
> through their appliances, but Thade had only one
> emotion. What a waste.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> What's with Lawgiver, mandemus and TV Zaius having
> bangs anyway? That always bothered me...and whiskers
> high on the cheeks......
>
>
>

It's 8" tall....the only markings are by the person
who made it....it says "Wisest Ape copyright 2004 "
but then I can't make out the name....I'll ask more
from the guy I got it from on ebay ....which if anyone
wants to bid on one of these...be waned it took
FOREVER to get him to write back and then send it but
with pressure he did...he said the person he got these
from was going to stop making them maybe because of
lack of interest.....!

--- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

> I have no idea as to it's origins but man is that a
> nice bust.
> Congrats.
>
> Definitely looks like Huston to me. I actually like
> the look they gave
> his makeup. His features portray an elder man who
> just reeks of
> wisdom.
>
> What are the dimensions? Any markings on the bottom
> or back?
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
> Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 0:19 am
> Subject: [PotaDG] Resin bust? Apes with bangs?
>
> > I need some help identifying this .....got it off
> > ebay.....seller said it was from a kit but he
> didn't
> > make it....does anyone know any info on this? is
> it a
> > resin kit? He said it was the Lawgiver and I was
> > thinking it sure looks more like Mandemus but
> after
> > getting it it does look like Huston's
> > Lawgiver!......What's with Lawgiver, mandemus and
> TV
> > Zaius having bangs anyway? That always bothered
> > me...and whiskers high on the cheeks......
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >

Wow! This is like finding some scrolls in a cave
somewhere! I would love to contact these lost people
and hear their storys....I wonder which ones were
"First human" and "human" were! and I didn't know
Armey Archard was in PLanet....wasn't he in Escape as
a human?


--- abmac@... wrote:

> > In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:54:58 P.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> > abmac@... writes:
> >
> > Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn
> Botelho.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow! How the hell did you know that?
> > It's not listed on the IMDB. In fact the
> > only thing I can find on the Net is that
> > she played a child in Miss Sadie Thompson (1953)
>
> "The Great American Movie Book" lists many cast
> members who weren't credited
> on film. Among them is Erlynn Botelho, although it
> only says that she played a
> chimpanzee woman. Since the placard for Dr. Galen's
> assistant says "E
> Botelho," it has to be her.
>
> Here's the complete cast from TGAMB:
>
> George Taylor - Charlton Heston
> Cornelius - Roddy McDowall
> Dr. Zira - Kim Hunter
> Dr. Zaius - Maurice Evans
> President of the Assembly - James Whitmore
> Honorius - James Daly
> Nova - Linda Harrison
> Landon - Robert Gunner
> Lucius - Lou Wagner
> Maximus - Woodrow Parfrey
> Dodge - Jeff Burton
> Julius - Buck Kartalian
> Hunt Leader - Norman Burton
> Dr. Galen - Wright King
> Minister - Paul Lambert
> First Human - Priscilla Boyd
> Human - Jane Ross
> Astronaut Stewart - Dianne Stanley
> Ape Photographer/Gorilla - Robert Lombardo
> Child Gorilla - Felix Silla
> Child Apes - Billy Curtis, Harry Monty, Frank
> Delfino, Jerry Maren, Emory
> Souza, Buddy Douglas
> Chimpanzee Woman - Erlynn Botelho
> Chimpanzees - Cass Martin, Smokey Roberds, George
> Sasaki, David Chow, Norma
> Jean Kron
> Gorillas - Chuck Fisher, John Quijada, Eldon Burke,
> Bill Graeff, Joseph
> Anthony (Tornatore), Dave Rodgers, Army Archerd
>
>
> Anthony>
> In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:54:58 P.M. Central
> Daylight Time,
> abmac@... writes:
>
> Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn Botelho.
>
>
>
> Wow! How the hell did you know that?
> It's not listed on the IMDB. In fact the
> only thing I can find on the Net is that
> she played a child in Miss Sadie Thompson (1953)
>
>
>
>
>

Hi again, Wendy.

A number of things. First, I've read Dan Brown's very
entertaining page-turners [THE DA VINCI CODE, et al.]
and enjoyed them, having been familiar already with
his sources -- books like HOLY BLOOD, HOLY GRAIL by
Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, etc. In regards to the
Jesus-Magdalene connection, the case can be made that
IF they existed they probably WERE married. Jesus is
referred to as "Rabbi" in the NT, and rabbinical law
mandated marriage for males of age. The question has
been asked: Who got married at the Marriage at Cana?
Jesus' mother Mary seemed to have a part in the
shindig, and she went out of her way to say that they
were low on wine... so she went to Jesus, as if it was
his duty to restock the wine supply for the guests.
It's been argued that it had to have been Jesus'
marriage to Mary Magdalene, and that THIS explains the
roles played by his mother Mary and him. Maybe. It
seems to me that the big tiff the Church(es) have with
all this stems from their doctrines that sought to
denigrate all women. Notice that Jesus' human mother
had to be a Virgin in order to be 'pure' enough to
carry God's offspring in her unsullied womb (the
Catholic doctrine of the "Immaculate Conception", by
the way, refers to MARY having supposedly been
conceived sinlessly -- i.e. without sex -- so that she
would be 'pure' from the get-go). Because women
menstruate, this made them ritually 'unclean' --
inherently impure, in the eyes of the priests who
equated ritual impurity with Sin. Read LEVITICUS to
see all the goofy rules the Israelites had regarding
the 'purity' of a person based on their fluid
discharges. A man who has a wet dream has to do
penance for it!

As for whether or not "most historians and biblical
scholars have discredited the married theory", well,
that's a bunch of hooey. They've ignored it where
possible, ridiculed it when it couldn't be ignored,
and they've CLAIMED to have discredited it... but it's
all moot. The written record is the ONLY record we
have about this topic, and that is suspect, since the
earliest extant manuscripts of the New Testament date
in the 4th century A.D. or so. Sure, those manuscripts
are based on earlier-written documents, but nobody
knows how faithfully those documents were copied. Only
a fool and/or a fanatic would claim that they were
copied perfectly, word-for-word, letter-for-letter.
Recently, it was shown that the earliest extant
manuscript of the book of REVELATION has the dreaded
Number of the Beast as "616", NOT the "666" that has
freaked out so many foolish people over the years. But
is that gonna make the fundamentalists change their
interpretations of bible prophecy? I wouldn't bet on
it!

- - - - - -

You mention that "Due to science, we seemed to be ...
in the age, (End of days --- Pisces going into
Aquarius)". Actually, this has nothing to do with
Science (i.e. with Astronomy) and is part of the
discredited 'practise' of Astrology. The musical
"HAIR!" may have a song about "the dawning of the Age
of Aquarius", but that event ain't due to happen for
another 6 or 7 centuries. If you look in one of those
PETERSON FIELD GUIDES -- the one called "STARS AND
PLANETS" -- you'll find that Atlas Chart 21 (of 52)
shows the part of the sky where the celestial Zero
meridian crosses the celestial equator AND the Zodiac
(the "First Point of Aries" it's called, where those
meridians intersect in the sky), less than 10 degrees
south of Omega Piscium currently. At the rate of
Precession of the Equinoxes (about 1 degree every 72
years), the Sun's position will cross the (arbitrary)
border from Pisces-to-Aquarius roughly around the time
when the Lawgiver reads Caesar's story to that group
of chimps and humans in BATTLE. The Sun will be in
alignment with Phi Aquarii (a star which is about 12
degrees of arc away from the Zero/360th degree
position) in about 864 years or so. The so-called "Age
of Aquarius" can't begin until the Sun's position is
within the arbitrary bounds of the zodiacal
constellation in question. It's still in Pisces, which
covers just over 40 degrees of the 360 total degrees
of the Zodiac so as to make Pisces a "longer" Age than
the other 11, which on average are 30 degrees wide
[2,160 years wide], 360 divided by 12. What's funny is
that for the part of the Zodiac in which the Sun is
positioned during the "Age of Scorpio", the Sun spends
most of its time in the constellation Ophiuchus, a
span of almost 19 degrees! Check it out for yourself,
on Atlas Chart 41 of that book. Why don't they call it
the "Age of Ophiuchus", then? There should be 13
constellations of the Zodiac, since the Sun goes
through 13 different constellations during each year.

- - - - - - - -

I have to disagree with you when you say that "If it
hadn't been for Christianity there wouldn't be
science, no education for the masses, and thousands
would perish from starvation and disease".
Historically, the dominance of the Christian religion
dragged Europe into the Dark Ages, where ignorance of
the scientific principles given to us from the Greek
philosophers led to disease epidemics being blamed on
Man's "sinful" nature, a punishment from God. We still
have traces of this abominable belief system, as when
AIDS is said by ignoramuses to be God's vengeance on
homosexuality, or when 9/11 is blamed NOT on the
Islamic fanatics but as God's punishment of America
for tolerating Gays, Feminism, Abortion, and Rock
music (Jerry Falwell said words to that effect soon
after the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon, on Pat
Robertson's "700 Club" show).
I'm not gonna claim that MODERN Christianity hasn't
done far better regarding Science,
Education-for-the-masses, etc. Christian charitable
efforts have been wonderful of late. But this is due
more to the fact that people who practise such charity
have a different view of their religion than
Christians did 1000 years ago. Nobody (virtually) is
FORCED to be a Christian in the Western world anymore,
and they can be a believer in whichever denomination
they like -- by personal choice. I think that the
charitable impulse is deadened in societies which
force their citizens to believe/obey in one particular
"state" religion. The nicest people I know happen to
be Christians (my best friend and his family), and
they can live their lives without suffering
totalitarian intrusions by doctrine-enforcing Spanish
Inquisition-type "authorities". I wonder if my
Christian friends would be as friendly if they were
burdened with an enforced religion?

Be that as it may, fundamentalist Christians STILL
spout their anti-evolution views. Only a fool would
claim that all the living people on the Earth today
can be traced back to the 8 people on Noah's Ark, or
that ALL the land animals in existence today can have
their DNA traced back to the animals Noah took into
the Ark. BULLSHIT! But "Bible Literalists" will
believe in ANYTHING. They'll believe that the Earth
stopped rotating on its axis for about 1 day, just
because the book of JOSHUA says that it happened --
actually, it says that the Sun and Moon stood still in
the sky for "about a day" so that the Israelites would
have enough daylight to slaughter their enemies.
Joshua didn't call upon the planet Earth to stop
rotating; he called upon the Sun and Moon to stop
moving in the sky -- that's why the Church didn't like
it when Science proved that the heavens didn't move,
but that it was the Earth spinning around an axis that
made it SEEM like the skies moved. "Pur si muove,"
Galileo is said to have whispered, when he recanted
his 'heresy' to save his skin from torture by the
Inquisition: "Nevertheless, it [the so-called unmoving
Earth, at the center of the Ptolemaic universe]
moves."

One other thing: Jesus is said to have been brought by
the Devil onto the top of a high mountain, where he
was shown "all the kingdoms of the world", which Satan
offered to him if he would only worship him. The ONLY
way this could make sense is if either the Earth was
FLAT (and, hence, could be seen in its entirety from a
high enough mountaintop), or if the mountain was on
the Moon's near side. Of course, the Earth ain't flat,
and there's no atmosphere on the Moon, so Jesus and
the Devil couldn't talk to each other (without
spacesuits and radio-links, anyway). What do "Bible
Literalists" make of THIS, I wonder?

- - - - - - - -

Finally, I haven't read Phil Pullman's "DARK MATERIAL"
series. I'll have to track it down, if you recommend
it. I've recently re-read Charles Sheffield's novels
"AFTERMATH" and "STARFIRE" (both quite excellent), and
a couple books in the series that began with "RELIC",
co-authored by two guys whose names escape me at the
moment. "STILL LIFE OF CROWS" and "CABINET OF
CURIOSITIES" -- both great reads. "Crows" has a
jaw-dropping ending that I won't ruin here -- read it!

Patrick

If he's selling them on ebay, just let us know what his userid is and
we can check out his current auctions.

It would have been nice if they were a bit bigger. It would have
complemented the new Ultimate 'Ape Head' DVD set I recently got.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Resin bust? Apes with bangs?

> It's 8" tall....the only markings are by the person
> who made it....it says "Wisest Ape copyright 2004 "
> but then I can't make out the name....I'll ask more
> from the guy I got it from on ebay ....which if anyone
> wants to bid on one of these...be waned it took
> FOREVER to get him to write back and then send it but
> with pressure he did...he said the person he got these
> from was going to stop making them maybe because of
> lack of interest.....!
>
> --- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> > I have no idea as to it's origins but man is that a
> > nice bust.
> > Congrats.
> >
> > Definitely looks like Huston to me. I actually like
> > the look they gave
> > his makeup. His features portray an elder man who
> > just reeks of
> > wisdom.
> >
> > What are the dimensions? Any markings on the bottom
> > or back?
> >
> > Dario
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
> > Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 0:19 am
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Resin bust? Apes with bangs?
> >
> > > I need some help identifying this .....got it off
> > > ebay.....seller said it was from a kit but he
> > didn't
> > > make it....does anyone know any info on this? is
> > it a
> > > resin kit? He said it was the Lawgiver and I was
> > > thinking it sure looks more like Mandemus but
> > after
> > > getting it it does look like Huston's
> > > Lawgiver!......What's with Lawgiver, mandemus and
> > TV
> > > Zaius having bangs anyway? That always bothered
> > > me...and whiskers high on the cheeks......
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > >

Are the Apes sequels in that book?!

> > "The Great American Movie Book" lists many cast
> > members who weren't credited
> > on film. Among them is Erlynn Botelho, although it
> > only says that she played a
> > chimpanzee woman. Since the placard for Dr.
> Galen's
> > assistant says "E
> > Botelho," it has to be her.
> >
> > Here's the complete cast from TGAMB:
> >
> > George Taylor - Charlton Heston
> > Cornelius - Roddy McDowall
> > Dr. Zira - Kim Hunter
> > Dr. Zaius - Maurice Evans
> > President of the Assembly - James Whitmore
> > Honorius - James Daly
> > Nova - Linda Harrison
> > Landon - Robert Gunner
> > Lucius - Lou Wagner
> > Maximus - Woodrow Parfrey
> > Dodge - Jeff Burton
> > Julius - Buck Kartalian
> > Hunt Leader - Norman Burton
> > Dr. Galen - Wright King
> > Minister - Paul Lambert
> > First Human - Priscilla Boyd
> > Human - Jane Ross
> > Astronaut Stewart - Dianne Stanley
> > Ape Photographer/Gorilla - Robert Lombardo
> > Child Gorilla - Felix Silla
> > Child Apes - Billy Curtis, Harry Monty, Frank
> > Delfino, Jerry Maren, Emory
> > Souza, Buddy Douglas
> > Chimpanzee Woman - Erlynn Botelho
> > Chimpanzees - Cass Martin, Smokey Roberds, George
> > Sasaki, David Chow, Norma
> > Jean Kron
> > Gorillas - Chuck Fisher, John Quijada, Eldon
> Burke,
> > Bill Graeff, Joseph
> > Anthony (Tornatore), Dave Rodgers, Army Archerd
> >
> >
> > Anthony>
> > In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:54:58 P.M. Central
> > Daylight Time,
> > abmac@... writes:
> >
> > Dr. Galen's assistant was played by Erlynn
> Botelho.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow! How the hell did you know that?
> > It's not listed on the IMDB. In fact the
> > only thing I can find on the Net is that
> > she played a child in Miss Sadie Thompson (1953)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>