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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39276 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/12/2006 |
| Subject: Re: clippings |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39277 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/12/2006 |
| Subject: Re: clippings |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39278 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/12/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39279 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: talking view master |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39280 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39281 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39282 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39283 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39284 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39285 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39286 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39287 |
From: Neil |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39288 |
From: John |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: MySpace |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39289 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39290 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: FW: [PotaDiscussionGroupphotos2] New file uploaded to PotaDiscussio |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39291 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39292 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39293 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39294 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: MySpace |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39295 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39296 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39297 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39298 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39299 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39300 |
From: John |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: MySpace |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39301 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: What the.....? |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39302 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39303 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39304 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39305 |
From: John |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39306 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: June 2004 posts moved |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39307 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39308 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39309 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: site update |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39310 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: site update |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39311 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39312 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Aussie APES |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39313 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Rare pictures CD... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39314 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39315 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39316 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39317 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39318 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39319 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Aussie APES |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39320 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39321 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39322 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39323 |
From: Graham Hill |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39324 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Marvel UK issue 83 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39325 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39326 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39327 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 83 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39328 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: POTA in Toyfare |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39329 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39330 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39331 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39332 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: More Manny... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39333 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39334 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39335 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39336 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39337 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39338 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39339 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39340 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39341 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39342 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39343 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39344 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39345 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: T's Hollywood Dic.......tionary! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39346 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39347 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39348 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39349 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Fanfic |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39350 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39351 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39352 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39353 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39354 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Study shows apes can plan ahead |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39355 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39356 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39357 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39358 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Oliver |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39359 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39360 |
From: sparkytb2005 |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Heston of the Apes |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39361 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Oliver |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39362 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/22/2006 |
| Subject: Rev' on the POTA #4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39363 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/22/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Oliver |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39364 |
From: scifiartistanime |
Date: 5/22/2006 |
| Subject: 2006 San Diego Comic Con |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39365 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: ROTPOTA #4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39366 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: ROTPOTA #4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39367 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: 2006 San Diego Comic Con |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39368 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Oliver |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39369 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39370 |
From: Ty Templeton |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rev' on the POTA #4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39371 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: 2006 San Diego Comic Con |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39372 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Goldsmith bio preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39373 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/24/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39374 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/24/2006 |
| Subject: Marvel UK issue 84 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39375 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/24/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 84 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39276 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/12/2006 |
| Subject: Re: clippings |
.html
Yeah who knew running around in tights with your adult male companion could snag you chicks! Go figure.... TZer0@... wrote:
In a message dated 5/11/2006 11:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- I hope Burt Ward wasn't in his Robin costume! If he was that's probably why you have no memory of seeing him, your mind probably blanked it out!!
;-) You probably don't remember seeing him because he was out in his trailer getting some tail. I am
going to have to read that guys book sometime.
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39277 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/12/2006 |
| Subject: Re: clippings |
.html.html
Works for me!
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan"
Sent: Saturday, 13 May 2006 12:02
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] clippings
Yeah who knew running
around in tights with your adult male companion could snag you chicks! Go
figure....
TZer0@...
wrote:
In a message dated 5/11/2006 11:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
-- I hope Burt Ward wasn't in his Robin costume! If he
was that's probably why you have no memory of seeing him, your mind probably
blanked it out!! ;-)
You
probably don't remember seeing him because
he was
out in his trailer getting some tail. I am
going
to have to read that guys book sometime.
Yahoo!
Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
--
<.html
<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39278 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/12/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39279 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: talking view master |
|
.html Well I got the talking view master viewer and listeed
finally to POTA! It's basically a high pitched
narrator very excitedly telling us what's going
on...no dialogue or anyone trying to impersonate the
actors...very similar to the style of the Power
records!
Interesting side note...the woman who sold it to me
had some troubles getting it to me so as a bonus she
sent me three talking reels from......Land of the
Lost....starring....Ron Harper.....how strange is
that...she said she didn't even think about that...!
TIm
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39280 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
.html>From:
TZer0@...
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Zira was a Wasp!
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 21:39:34 EDT
>
>
>In a message dated 5/10/2006 4:44:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
>Tzero
>seems to think Boulle smoked Turkish cigarettes and named his
>character after that brand-name. Maybe, but I doubt it.
>
>
>
>And, as usual, you seem to find meaning where there is none.
>Maybe it seems that way to you, but I never said that. I didn't
>say they were Turkish. Camels are a Turkish bland, but they
>aren't Turkish. And those ciggies are turn of the century circa
>1910, so I doubt he ever had one. I don't think he got the name
>from them, because I have no idea where he go the name. For
>all I know he made it up. But it was around before he was born.
>I don't know how you read into the statements that I made that
>you think I thought that. But then again you're the guy with the
>Mothership Theory . but I won't try to read anything into that. ; )
>
>
>
Because writers (artist) are individuals, they, like their style, get names
in variety of ways and through influences. Frank Baum got the word "Oz" of
his filing cabinet; whereas my writer friend, Mary, picks and researches her
character's names from a handful of name books in her library. As a budding
childern's author, I usually end up inventing my characters' names either by
accident or by playing with sounds. Both of these applied when I created the
name K'Clea from Cleo.. One day I mistyped changing the "o" to an "a"
spelling "Clea" instead of "Cleo". I thought Clea was great name. But it
didn't seem complete - having a click or sound the name seemed to require.
So I added "K" to "Clea" making it "K'Clea" (kay-kleeya).
Perhaps Boulle knew a Zira, a girl friend or female relation. (Back in his
day, maybe Zira, due to the Exodus, was a common name in France, like Wendy
was common due to release of Peter Pan) Yet again, as stated, he could have
read it somewhere, like off his ciggs or even a box of cereal. The answer
might lie within his other works where the names of his other characters
could hold a pattern common to POTA his characters. Whatever the answer may
be, I'm sure that he has taken it to his grave.
Wendy <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39281 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
.html>
>*** For what it's worth, the -us ending only pertains to the
>NOMINATIVE case. In Latin (as in Greek) there are more than one ways
>of spelling a noun, depending on whether the word in question is the
>Subject of a sentence, the Direct Object, the Indirect Object, or
>part of some other type of phrase.
>
>I mentioned in an earlier post that if somebody wanted to
>say "Galen's horse" in Latin, they'd say "equus Galeni" rather than
>have the name as "Galenus". The word "equus" means HORSE -- i.e. in
>the Nominative Case, used as the Subject of a sentence; and the
>word "Galeni" modifies this word in the possessive (Genitive) case.
>
>Each noun-word in Latin has a stem onto which a case-ending suffix is
>attached, so that "Galen-" is the stem (in this instance) to which
>the "-i" ending (if Genitive) or "-us" ending (if Nominative) is
>tacked on. Unlike the Latin or Greek way, the English language
>dispensed with case endings about 500 years ago, when Old English had
>given way to Middle English. The reason that most Roman names use
>the "-us" ending is because we tend to use those names in their
>Nominative case-form; despite this, though, a fair number of names
>are 'Englished' by retaining ONLY the stem and dropping the case-
>ending suffix entirely, as is the case with the names Galen, Troy,
>etc.
>
>It's fairly evident that Serling & Wilson set the standard for the
>apes' names by naming all the non-Boulle ape characters with Roman
>names: Lucius, Julius, Maximus, Honorius, Marcus, etc. They were
>following Boulle's lead, presumably, due to the Boulle having named
>Zira's fiancee as "Cornelius" -- an existing Roman name. In the
>novel, there's a character named Helius, which can be thought of as
>the word Helium (the 2nd element in the Periodical Table) with a
>masculine "-us" ending replacing the neutral "-um" ending. I've yet
>to find a single example, though, of any Roman use of the
>names "Zaius" or "Zira", though each has the appropriate Latin
>endings ("Zaius" having the "-us" masculine ending, and "Zira" having
>the feminine "-a" ending).
>
>Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
Nicely said, Patrick. :)
Wendy <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39282 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
.htmlTzero,
Didn't see this before I entered my input. Nevertheless, ditto.
Wendy
PS. I named my Dell Zira. Does this mean she will be tease mercilessly by
her fellow Dells too?
>From: TZer0@...
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Latinate ape name endings
>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 05:22:17 EDT
>
>
>
>Zaius is very like Gaius. A good Latin name, since it was good enough for
>Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus. I suppose Boulle could have just
>chucked a Z
>on the front to make it more alien sounding. Zira, as a name had fallen
>out
>of use before the movie. There's probably as many people who associate it
>with The Lion King as POTA these days. Then again aside from Don
>Cornelius,
>you won't find many Cornelius's since Cornelius Vanderbilt. There was a
>Turkish blend cigarette for Women around the turn of the century called
>Zira. Zira
>is Turkish for, "because", by the way, as well as Swahili for "Hate".
>Though despite it's spelling, it could be derived from the biblical name,
>Zerah,
>which means Dawn, which is actually a male name. Though there are the
>female
>names Zera, meaning seeds, and Zira meaning an arena. A Punk Rock couple
>did
>name their baby Zira. No doubt she will be teased mercilessly in school
>for
>it. But most of the Ziras these days are all pets.
>
>
>
>
>In a message dated 5/9/2006 2:17:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
>I've yet to find a single example, though, of any Roman use of the
>names "Zaius" or "Zira", though each has the appropriate Latin
>endings ("Zaius" having the "-us" masculine ending, and "Zira" having
>the feminine "-a" ending).
>
>Patrick
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Message: 39283 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
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Like most of the people involved in POTA!
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wendy
Kostora
Sent: Sunday, 14 May 2006 6:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Zira was a
Wasp!
>From: TZer0@...
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Zira was a Wasp!
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 21:39:34 EDT
>
>
>In a message dated 5/10/2006 4:44:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
>Tzero
>seems to think Boulle smoked Turkish cigarettes and named his
>character after that brand-name. Maybe, but I doubt it.
>
>
>
>And, as usual, you seem to find meaning where there is none.
>Maybe it seems that way to you, but I never said that. I didn't
>say they were Turkish. Camels are a Turkish bland, but they
>aren't Turkish. And those ciggies are turn of the century circa
>1910, so I doubt he ever had one. I don't think he got
the name
>from them, because I have no idea where he go the name. For
>all I know he made it up. But it was around before he was born.
>I don't know how you read into the statements that I made that
>you think I thought that. But then again you're the guy with
the
>Mothership Theory . but I won't try to read anything into that.
; )
>
>
>
Because writers (artist) are individuals, they, like their style, get names
in variety of ways and through influences. Frank Baum got the word
"Oz" of
his filing cabinet; whereas my writer friend, Mary, picks and researches her
character's names from a handful of name books in her library. As a budding
childern's author, I usually end up inventing my characters' names either by
accident or by playing with sounds. Both of these applied when I created the
name K'Clea from Cleo.. One day I mistyped changing the "o" to an
"a"
spelling "Clea" instead of "Cleo". I thought Clea was great
name. But it
didn't seem complete - having a click or sound the name seemed to
require.
So I added "K" to "Clea" making it "K'Clea"
(kay-kleeya).
Perhaps Boulle knew a Zira, a girl friend or female relation. (Back in his
day, maybe Zira, due to the Exodus, was a common name in France, like Wendy
was common due to release of Peter Pan) Yet again, as stated, he could have
read it somewhere, like off his ciggs or even a box of cereal. The answer
might lie within his other works where the names of his other characters
could hold a pattern common to POTA his characters. Whatever the answer may
be, I'm sure that he has taken it to his grave.
Wendy
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Message: 39284 |
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Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
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In a message dated 5/13/2006 5:42:33 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
Like most of the people involved in POTA!
Yes, that is sad but true... There should have been in depth interviews, etc. with those folks way before they passed... Pretty soon all we're gonna have to go on is the memory of Linda Harrison, and I shudder that
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Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
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Tom Scott's Birthday
Sunday May 14, 2006
All Day
This event repeats every year.
The next reminder for this event will be sent in 14 minutes.
Notes:
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Date: 5/13/2006 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
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Tom Scott's Birthday
Sunday May 14, 2006
All Day
This event repeats every year.
Notes:
Happy Birthday Tom!
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Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Zira was a Wasp! |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, mlccougar@... wrote:
> Yes, that is sad but true... There should have been in depth
interviews, etc. with those folks way before they passed... Pretty
soon all we're gonna have to go on is the memory of Linda Harrison,
and I shudder that thought...
-- And when the generation of fans that most of us belong to are gone
there will be nobody left who knows or cares about any of this apes stuff!
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Message: 39288 |
From: John |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: MySpace |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39289 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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OK, I still wasn't satisfied with the back cover I did for my DVD cover of BENEATH, so here's what I hope is my final version. I found the image I've put on the top of the back cover in my
computer. I think it was James that posted it once.
I'm about to start on covers for CONQUEST and BATTLE, and then I'm going to revisit the original again.
Anyone who what's these JPGs e-mailed directly to them just let me know. I print them up at work, where there's a nice digital printer that prints on real photographic paper, and they come out nice. I
haven't finished the other APES films yet because I'm redoing covers for so many of my DVDs.
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Message: 39290 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: FW: [PotaDiscussionGroupphotos2] New file uploaded to PotaDiscussio |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39291 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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-- Very nice as
usual Rory. I do like the addition of the image at the top of the back cover and
the way you have the mutants 'beneath' the ruins of the city, very
clever.
Can't wait to see
more!
Neil
OK, I still
wasn't satisfied with the back cover I did for my DVD cover of BENEATH, so
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Message: 39292 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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Rory
Nice job. Best cover yet for a great
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Message: 39293 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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Neil,
you should cross post YOUR version of this one! J
§
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent:
Monday,
15 May 2006
8:05 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Yet another Beneath Redo!
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I found the image I've put on the top of
the back cover in my computer
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Message: 39294 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/14/2006 |
| Subject: Re: MySpace |
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In a message dated 5/14/2006 10:23:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
DrZaiusDavis@... writes:
Join My
Cult!!!!
How do you get the URL to work?
I tried every combo and they all said
they were taken already. And how
do you get all the other stuff like
the music player. I'm myspace
challanged. Is it all.htmlstuff?
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Message: 39295 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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-- What, do you
mean this old thing?
I won't cross post
it though as the person running that other group for the owner disallowed a post
of mine recently as it didn't strictly conform to their 'group posting
rules'. And as I am one of the few people to whom it seems the 'rules' are
applied I wouldn't like to waste my time and theirs or be seen to be trying to
cause trouble or anything.
Neil
Neil, you should
cross post YOUR version of this one! J
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Message: 39296 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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-- If I was going
to cross post it though I would use this version:
Neil
Neil, you should
cross post YOUR version of this one! J
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39297 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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What were you up to there MISTER Foster?
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent:
Monday, 15
May 2006
4:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Yet another
Beneath Redo!
-- What, do you mean this old
thing?
I won't cross post it though as
the person running that other group for the owner disallowed a post of
mine recently as it didn't strictly conform to their 'group posting
rules'. And as I am one of the few people to whom it seems the 'rules' are
applied I wouldn't like to waste my time and theirs or be seen to be trying to
cause trouble or anything.
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Whitty
Sent:
Monday, 15
May 2006
9:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Yet another
Beneath Redo!
Neil, you should cross post YOUR version of this one!
J
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From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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That is the one I was referring to!
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent:
Monday, 15
May 2006
4:10 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Yet another
Beneath Redo!
-- If I was going to cross post it
though I would use this version:
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Whitty
Sent:
Monday, 15
May 2006
9:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Yet another
Beneath Redo!
Neil, you should cross post YOUR version of this one!
J
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Message: 39299 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
.htmlAs I've said in the past, Boulle has a history of naming characters after
characters in Joseph Conrad novels (his favorite author). So I would submit
that Boulle named Cornelius after the Cornelius in "Lord Jim" (Boulle's
favorite novel). - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:15 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Latinate ape name endings
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thats funny, but as I thought about it, another more serious idea
> came to mind?
> > Why would the writers use 'us' for all the males? Perhaps it WAS a
> reference to roman gladiators. (We'll not bigus dickus, but
> spartacus, and his ilk.) That would also explain the lead up to the
> character of Caesar himself.
> >
> > Dario
>
> *** For what it's worth, the -us ending only pertains to the
> NOMINATIVE case. In Latin (as in Greek) there are more than one ways
> of spelling a noun, depending on whether the word in question is the
> Subject of a sentence, the Direct Object, the Indirect Object, or
> part of some other type of phrase.
>
> I mentioned in an earlier post that if somebody wanted to
> say "Galen's horse" in Latin, they'd say "equus Galeni" rather than
> have the name as "Galenus". The word "equus" means HORSE -- i.e. in
> the Nominative Case, used as the Subject of a sentence; and the
> word "Galeni" modifies this word in the possessive (Genitive) case.
>
> Each noun-word in Latin has a stem onto which a case-ending suffix is
> attached, so that "Galen-" is the stem (in this instance) to which
> the "-i" ending (if Genitive) or "-us" ending (if Nominative) is
> tacked on. Unlike the Latin or Greek way, the English language
> dispensed with case endings about 500 years ago, when Old English had
> given way to Middle English. The reason that most Roman names use
> the "-us" ending is because we tend to use those names in their
> Nominative case-form; despite this, though, a fair number of names
> are 'Englished' by retaining ONLY the stem and dropping the case-
> ending suffix entirely, as is the case with the names Galen, Troy,
> etc.
>
> It's fairly evident that Serling & Wilson set the standard for the
> apes' names by naming all the non-Boulle ape characters with Roman
> names: Lucius, Julius, Maximus, Honorius, Marcus, etc. They were
> following Boulle's lead, presumably, due to the Boulle having named
> Zira's fiancee as "Cornelius" -- an existing Roman name. In the
> novel, there's a character named Helius, which can be thought of as
> the word Helium (the 2nd element in the Periodical Table) with a
> masculine "-us" ending replacing the neutral "-um" ending. I've yet
> to find a single example, though, of any Roman use of the
> names "Zaius" or "Zira", though each has the appropriate Latin
> endings ("Zaius" having the "-us" masculine ending, and "Zira" having
> the feminine "-a" ending).
>
> Patrick
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message: 39300 |
From: John |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: MySpace |
.htmlLucked out with my URL. With the music, just go to the bands page and
click "add" on their player and it will directly link the song to
your page. For pictures I dump them into "photo bucket" and it
generates a code for you to "copy". You then take that code
and "paste" it on your page through the edit Myspace option. You just
paste it in whatever section you want the pic to show.
JOIN MY CULT!!!!
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 5/14/2006 10:23:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> DrZaiusDavis@... writes:
>
> Join My Cult!!!!
>
>
> How do you get the URL to work?
> I tried every combo and they all said
> they were taken already. And how
> do you get all the other stuff like
> the music player. I'm myspace
> challanged. Is it all.htmlstuff?
> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39301 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: What the.....? |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39302 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39303 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39304 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
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After having Joined Dr Zaius
Davis’ cult I must confess I think my master is the high bidder! J
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 8:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] What
the.....?
-- What the? Indeed! It seems some
people have way too much time on their hands and too much weirdness in their
heads!!
The really scary thing is that
someone has bid on this monstrosity!
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan"
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 8:19 AM
To: POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] What the.....?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SUCCUBUS-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-Gothic-Horror-Ooak-Dolls_W0QQitemZ9518518027QQcategoryZ84628QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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From: John |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
.htmlHey, now. ;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> After having Joined Dr Zaius Davis' cult I must confess I think my
> master is the high bidder! :-)
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Neil T Foster
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 8:25 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] What the.....?
>
> -- What the? Indeed! It seems some people have way too much time on
> their hands and too much weirdness in their heads!!
>
> The really scary thing is that someone has bid on this monstrosity!
>
> Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 8:19 AM
> To: POTA DG
> Subject: [PotaDG] What the.....?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/SUCCUBUS-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-Gothic-Horror-Ooak-
Dolls
> _W0QQitemZ9518518027QQcategoryZ84628QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
> --
> <.html
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Message: 39306 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: June 2004 posts moved |
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Just wanted to let everyone
know that the group's posts for June
2004 have been deleted from the main site and can now be
found in the files section of the Archives group as a text
file:
We have to do this periodically to free up space
as Yahoo does not allot much space to the groups anymore. As this group is so
active we tend to fill up very quickly and instead of losing old posts forever
we like to keep a copy of them all, so we had to start a few more groups to
store excess stuff on.
One very important point - to access the old posts
etc. you will need to be a member of the Archives group. The same is also
true for the Fan Fiction and Photos groups:
All the sites can
be easily accessed via the links on each one's Home Page.
Thanks,
Neil
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Message: 39307 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
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In a message dated 5/15/2006 5:45:40 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
Disturbing....
Sheer and utter C R A P...<.html
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Message: 39308 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/15/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Yet another Beneath Redo! |
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In a message dated 5/15/2006 1:06:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
I won't cross post it
though as the person running that other group for the owner disallowed a post
of mine recently as it didn't strictly conform to their 'group posting
rules'. And as I am one of the few people to whom it seems the 'rules' are
applied I wouldn't like to waste my time and theirs or be seen to be trying to
cause trouble or anything.
What is with those guys?
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Message: 39309 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: site update |
.htmlI sent a bunch of clippings to Kass for her site and others sent more pics....Check them out!!
Tim
How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low
PC-to-Phone call rates. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39310 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: site update |
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Great, thanks for
letting us know Tim.
Neil
I sent a bunch of clippings to Kass for her site and others sent more
pics....Check them out!!
Tim <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39311 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
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-- Okay we now
have a group set up for the uploading of those rare photographs and other stuff
that we were discussing the other week for the Rare Photos CD project.
It is an old DG
group set up a few years ago for DG related projects that was hardly ever used
for anything and is appropriately called Pota DG Projects.
I have done some
'house cleaning' and it is now ready for use.
It can be found
here:
Any of you who
wish to start uploading pictures just need to let us know on the DG and I
will send you an invite or you can go to the group and join
yourself.
Cheers,
Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39312 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Aussie APES |
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Message: 39313 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Rare pictures CD... |
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In a message dated 5/16/2006 5:53:02 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- Okay we now have a group set up for the uploading of those rare photographs and other stuff that we were discussing
the other week for the Rare Photos CD project.
I was thinking about this, and I am thinking it would be even cooler if at all possible, the various pictures are set to music from their accompanying film...<.html
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Message: 39314 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
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Here are some more photos for you to upload into the new group. I
already signed up for the group.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster < ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:47:30 +1000
Subject: [PotaDG] Group ready for uploading of rare pictures...
-- Okay we now have a group set up for the uploading of those
rare photographs and other stuff that we were discussing the other week
for the Rare Photos CD project.
It is an old DG group set up a few years ago for DG related projects
that was hardly ever used for anything and is appropriately called Pota
DG Projects.
I have done some 'house cleaning' and it is now ready for use.
It can be found here:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDGprojects/
Any of you who wish to start uploading pictures just need to let us
know on the DG and I will send you an invite or you can go to the group
and join yourself.
Cheers,
Neil
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* Visit your group "PotaDG" on the web.
* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Message: 39315 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) published
Wednesday May 17, 2006
All Day
This event repeats every year.
The next reminder for this event will be sent in 14 minutes.
Notes:
The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) by Pierre Boulle was published on this day in 1963. Thanks for getting the ball rolling Pierre!
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Message: 39316 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
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-- Cool thanks for
getting us started Kevin. I've uploaded them to the projects group. I'll get
around to uploading all the ones that were sent previously as well when I have
the time.
Neil
Here are some more
photos for you to upload into the new group. I already signed up for the
group.
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Message: 39317 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
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-- Good idea but
has anyone here got the technical ability to do something like this? I know I
wouldn't have a clue how to do it!
Neil
In a message dated 5/16/2006
5:53:02 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- Okay we
now have a group set up for the uploading of those rare photographs and
other stuff that we were discussing the other week for the Rare Photos CD
project.
I was thinking about this, and I am thinking it
would be even cooler if at all possible, the various pictures are set to music
from their accompanying film...
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Message: 39318 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) published
Wednesday May 17, 2006
All Day
This event repeats every year.
Notes:
The novel Planet of the Apes (Monkey Planet) by Pierre Boulle was published on this day in 1963. Thanks for getting the ball rolling Pierre!
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From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Aussie APES |
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-- I couldn't tell
you Rory, I haven't even thought about buying the things. I'm sure Mr. whitty
knows though?
Neil
So what's going on downunder with the
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39320 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/16/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
.htmlNo problem. I'm still waiting for some more apes photos. I want to a
photo book something like "The Art of Star Wars" but I want to do
something like a "Planet of the Apes" art book with rare photos and the
actual script from the movie.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster < ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:42:28 +1000
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Group ready for uploading of rare pictures...
-- Cool thanks for getting us started Kevin. I've uploaded them
to the projects group. I'll get around to uploading all the ones that
were sent previously as well when I have the time.
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf
Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2006 1:25 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Group ready for uploading of rare pictures...
Here are some more photos for you to upload into the new group. I
already signed up for the group.
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Message: 39321 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
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Agreed
– but that would come later.
Step 1 is the gathering...
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2006 12:48
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Rare pictures
CD...
In a message dated 5/16/2006 5:53:02
PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- Okay we now have a group set up for the uploading of those rare
photographs and other stuff that we were discussing the other week for the Rare
Photos CD project.
I was thinking about this, and I am thinking it would be even cooler if at all
possible, the various pictures are set to music from their accompanying film...
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Message: 39322 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
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Speaking
of music – how is that other project going?
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Whitty
Sent:
Wednesday,
17 May 2006
2:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Rare
pictures CD...
Agreed
– but that would come later.
Step 1
is the gathering...
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent:
Wednesday,
17 May 2006
12:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Rare pictures
CD...
In a message dated
5/16/2006
5:53:02 PM Central Standard Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
-- Okay we now have a group set up for the uploading of those rare
photographs and other stuff that we were discussing the other week for the Rare
Photos CD project.
I was thinking about this, and I am thinking it would be even cooler if at all possible, the various pictures are set to music from their
accompanying film...
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39323 |
From: Graham Hill |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: What the.....? |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- What the? Indeed! It seems some people have way too much time on
> their hands and too much weirdness in their heads!!
>
> The really scary thing is that someone has bid on this monstrosity!
>
> Neil
>
>
The guys description is pretty scary, he seems to take it all very
serious. Making the Barbie a natural blonde indeed...
Best Graham. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39324 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Marvel UK issue 83 |
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Issue 83 is now available to download from Hunter's site. The Future History Chronicles continue this issue. Two bonus items this issue: a photo of Roddy McDowall as Galen and a full-page ad from the UK PotA Fan
Club with their Planet of the Apes Mastermind 1976 contest. How many questions can YOU answer correctly? Greg <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39325 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rare pictures CD... |
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Here's one I saw the other day on ebay.....revealing
that the astronaut trio were NOT REALLY NAKED for the
clothes snatching scene!
--- mlccougar@... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/16/2006 5:53:02 PM Central
> Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> > -- Okay we now have a group set up for the
> uploading of those rare
> > photographs and other stuff that we were
> discussing the other week for the Rare
> > Photos CD project.
>
> I was thinking about this, and I am thinking it
> would be even cooler if at
> all possible, the various pictures are set to music
> from their accompanying
> film...
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39326 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Group ready for uploading of rare pictures... |
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-- I would like to
see something similar but also including pre-production art and storyboards as
well as the rare photos. I have the Time Bandits movie script book which
has all these things and a similar one for POTA would be
great.
Neil
but I want to do
something like a "Planet of the Apes" art book with rare photos and the
actual script from the movie. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39327 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/17/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 83 |
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Message
-- Thanks
Greg!
Neil
Issue 83 is now available to download from Hunter's site. The Future
History Chronicles continue this issue. Two bonus items this issue: a photo of
Roddy McDowall as Galen and a full-page ad from the UK PotA Fan Club with
their Planet of the Apes Mastermind 1976 contest. How many questions can YOU
answer
correctly? <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39328 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: POTA in Toyfare |
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Don't know if everyone is familiar with Toyfare magazine.....it's all about action figures and every issue they do a strip called "Twisted Toyfare Theatre" where they use
action figures in a comic strip form. It used to be called Twisted MEGO Theatre but I think they got in trouble ...Here is part of the current issue. It has a Probe Driod from Star Wars dropping into other universes
like Superman, He-Man, LOTR, and Star Trek where after Kirk learns it is a "probe" droid locks himself in a room with it! At one point the droid lands on a distant forest planet...... Tim
Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39329 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
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At http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5668
it says a card in the new DVD season of the TV show "M*A*S*H" announces when the
series is done being released on DVD in November, there will be an "Ultimate"
collection of the entire series. It will include "extras". Well, the loyal
"M*A*S*H" fans who have been collecting the series haven't had extras. So,
unless they plan on including those extras on the final season (Season 11),
the most loyal fans will be forced to rebuy the entire series or do without.
Kinda puts them in the same place as "Ape" fans (who, so far, have had to buy
the "Ultimate" collection or miss out on the official cartoons). But this
collection will probably be more expensive (seasons go for about $30 - 40 each,
though ironically I just got about 5 used season for $9 each). This is only the
second "Ultimate" collection from Fox I've heard about, so maybe it's a trend.
Like "Apes", "M*A*S*H" was often filmed at
Malibu Creek State Park and was a favorite show of Arthur Jacobs and Natalie
Trundy.
In other TV news, on "Here Come the Brides",
a show featuring Mark (Urko) Lenard sans makeup, was released May 16th on DVD, I
believe.
- - - Jeff
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39330 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
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This irks the hell outta me... I have bought all of the seasons so far and DO NOT like the idea of being ripped off by those bastards... Knowing them, they will have the
"Goodbye, Farewell, Amen" finale be part of the box set rather than the final season set...
In a message dated 5/18/2006 9:28:09 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
At
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5668
it says a card in the new DVD season of the TV show "M*A*S*H" announces when the series is done being released on DVD in November, there will be an "Ultimate" collection of the entire series. It
will include "extras". Well, the loyal "M*A*S*H" fans who have been collecting the series haven't had extras. So, unless they plan on including those extras on the final season (Season 11), the
most loyal fans will be forced to rebuy the entire series or do without. Kinda puts them in the same place as "Ape" fans (who, so far, have had to buy the "Ultimate" collection or miss out on the
official cartoons). But this collection will probably be more expensive (seasons go for about $30 - 40 each, though ironically I just got about 5 used season for $9 each). This is only the second "Ultimate"
collection from Fox I've heard about, so maybe it's a trend.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39331 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39332 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: More Manny... |
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A new
UNCLE MANNY'S MUSINGS is now
available.
Previous
UNCLE MANNY'S MUSINGS are available for viewing
here:
Cheers,
Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39333 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
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That’s funny!
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan"
Sent:
Thursday,
18 May 2006
11:36 PM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] POTA in Toyfare
.....Star
Trek where after Kirk learns it is a "probe" droid locks himself in a
room with it! At one point the droid lands on a distant forest planet......
Tim
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39334 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
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Manny, Manny, Manny!
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 8:22 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] New file
uploaded to PotaDG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
File : /Uncle Manny's
Musings/UMM 26.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
Description :
You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Uncle%20Manny%27s%20Musings/UMM%2026.jpg
To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
Regards,
munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39335 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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Humans, chimps 'got it on'
By Leigh Dayton May 18, 2006
BEFORE they went their separate evolutionary ways, the
ancestors of chimpanzees and people got up to plenty of, well, monkey
business. Moreover, this went on for about four million years.
The most detailed analysis conducted of human and chimpanzee DNA reveals that
after an initial separation from a common ancestor, between five and six million
years ago, the species continued interbreeding.
The implication is that speciation - the separation from a common ancestor -
wasn't the simple process scientists previously believed.
Instead, it happened over millions of years during which "episodes" of
hybridisation took place before the final separation into two distinct species,
US researchers claim in a paper published online by Nature.
"For the first time, we're able to see the details written out in the DNA,"
said biologist Eric Lander, director of the Broad Institute at the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology in Cambridge. "What they tell us at the least is that
the human-chimp speciation was very unusual."
According to Dr Lander and colleagues at Harvard University, they didn't expect
to find evidence of human-chimp hybrids. "Hybridisation is commonly observed to
play a role in speciation in plants, but evolutionary biologists do not
generally view it as an important way to produce a new species in animals," said
team leader Nick Patterson, a biostatistician at the Broad Institute.
Geneticist David Reich, of Harvard Medical School, added: "That such
evolutionary events have not been seen more often in animal species may simply
be due to the fact that we have not been looking for them."
While some experts in human evolution remain sceptical of some of the
details, they are impressed nevertheless.
"It's a totally cool and extremely clever analysis," said Harvard biological
anthropologist Daniel Lieberman, who was not involved in the research.
"My problem is imagining what it would be like to have a bipedal hominid and
a chimpanzee viewing each other as appropriate mates, not to put it too
crudely," he said.
Previous studies comparing human and chimp DNA could only offer an estimate
of how long ago the two species split by averaging the amount of divergence in
their genes. Generally, those studies come up with a figure of about 7 million
years.
But thanks to the completion of the chimpanzee genome project in September,
the team had about 800 times more data.
That meant they were able to look at how specific sections of the genetic
code evolved.
For one thing, the new data suggest the human-chimp split was much closer to
the present than the seven-million-years date that fossils and previous studies
indicated - certainly no earlier than 6.3 million years ago, and more likely
around 5.4 million.
The data also show that the human-chimp split probably took four million
years. That's because in some parts of the DNA sequence, the genetic difference
between humans and chimps is so large that those genes must have been isolated
from each other nearly 10 million years ago.
But in other places, the human and chimp lines are so close that they appear
to have still been swapping genetic material at least until 6.3 million years
ago. One of those areas is the x-chromosome. Female chimps and humans have two
x-chromosomes, while males have an x and a y.
"The genes that are a barrier to speciation tend to be on the x-chromosome,"
team member Assistant Professor Reich said.
But as interbreeding is known to place strong selective pressures on sex
chromosomes, that would explain the discovery that the x-chromosome is some 1.2
million years younger than the rest of human chromosomes, the team suggested.
Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39336 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Latinate ape name endings |
.htmlJeff,
Right on the mark, Jeff.
Wendy
>
> As I've said in the past, Boulle has a history of naming characters
>after
>characters in Joseph Conrad novels (his favorite author). So I would submit
>that Boulle named Cornelius after the Cornelius in "Lord Jim" (Boulle's
>favorite novel). - - - Jeff
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39337 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
.htmlTrue. However, some chimps might have walked upright, like Oliver, who has a
mutated gene, causing him to walk upright. Most science thought he was a
hybrid, but since looking at his DNA, they concluded that he has unusual
gene not commonly found in todays chimps. In fact they think he came from a
troop unigue to chimps. Thanks to bush meat and the destruction of the
chimps' habitat, his troop inevitably no longer exist. Sigh!
Wendy
>
>"My problem is imagining what it would be like to have a bipedal hominid
>and a chimpanzee viewing each other as appropriate mates, not to put it
>too crudely," he said.
>
>
>
>Neil
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39338 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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-- Speaking of
Oliver I saw a show just yesterday that had a segment about him which was the
first time I had seen footage of him. It really did look weird with him
standing and walking straight up like a human. Wonder how he would have looked
in a green tunic and pants? ;-)
Neil
True. However, some chimps might have walked upright,
like Oliver, who has a mutated gene, causing him to walk upright. Most
science thought he was a hybrid, but since looking at his DNA, they
concluded that he has unusual gene not commonly found in todays
chimps. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39339 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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In a message dated 5/18/2006 10:11:13 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- Speaking of Oliver I saw a show just yesterday that had a segment about him which was the first time I had seen
footage of him. It really did look weird with him standing and walking straight up like a human. Wonder how he would have looked in a green tunic and pants? ;-)
My question for the two of you is this: Where did you see this chimp Oliver? Is he the same one that was featured on the TV documentary called (something like) "Humanzee"?<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39340 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/18/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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-- The show I saw
him on was an old episode of Unexplained Mysteries. Not sure what year it was
from though.
Neil
My question for the two of you is this:
Where did you see this chimp Oliver? Is he the same one that was featured on
the TV documentary called (something like) "Humanzee"? <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39341 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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Yes – I thought there was nothing
more disgusting than humans and apes getting it on, then I realised that humans
EAT apes.
Great topics today! J
Hi Wendy!
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wendy
Kostora
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 10:07 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Humans,
chimps 'got it on'
True. However, some chimps might have walked upright, like Oliver, who has a
mutated gene, causing him to walk upright. Most science thought he was a
hybrid, but since looking at his DNA, they concluded that he has unusual
gene not commonly found in todays chimps. In fact they think he came from a
troop unigue to chimps. Thanks to bush meat and the destruction of the
chimps' habitat, his troop inevitably no longer exist. Sigh!
Wendy
>
>"My problem is imagining what it would be like to have a bipedal
hominid
>and a chimpanzee viewing each other as appropriate mates, not to put it
>too crudely," he said.
>
>
>
>Neil
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39342 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
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Yeah, the rumors of a new season of Futurama are false as well.
Fox is just going to do a few direct to disc movies. Milk it for all
it's worth, and then sell it to Adult Swim. Sounds like something
Fox would do. They are the Entertainment "Pushers" of Hollywood.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39343 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
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Well at least we get more
Futurama!
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 4:42 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: Fox
gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Yeah,
the rumors of a new season of Futurama are false as well.
Fox is
just going to do a few direct to disc movies. Milk it for all
it's
worth, and then sell it to Adult Swim. Sounds like something
Fox
would do. They are the Entertainment "Pushers" of Hollywood.
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39344 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Fox gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too |
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In a message dated 5/19/2006 1:49:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
Well at least we get
more Futurama!
Yes, but you must pay. Pay, or wait. That's how it is with Fox.
Money talks. But even though that crap version of POTA did well, extremely well
for the opening week, it wasn't enough for them. Maybe they're just waiting for
Zanuck to die. That might be best. Zanuck + Apes spells
Stinkberger!
But it's interesting that when Sir Ian McKellan was asked about X
Men, . . . Singer? Or Ratner? he said, "I can assure you Brett
won't be pulling a Tim Burton. He won't be taking it in a different
direction on this one. "
I guess that has become a new phrase in Hollywood . . .
T's Hollywood Dictionary
Re-imagining - v. aka "Pulling a Tim
Burton" : To take an established film franchise in a new
direction, which is decidedly, not for the better.
(also see pulling a Zanuck)
Pulling a Zanuck - v. To hire the wrong man for the job
and ruin a pictures chances of being good from the start. (also see The
Producer's Joke)
The Producer's Joke - A Director and a
Producer are in the desert scouting a location for a shoot when suddenly the car
breaks down. They walk for hours until they find an oasis. The
director begins drinking from it thirstily, while the producer proceeds to
urinate into it.
"What the hell do you think you're doing!?!", asks the director.
To which the producer replies, "I'm making it better."
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39345 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: T's Hollywood Dic.......tionary! |
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Is it just me Neil or is
there a strip in there?!?!?!
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 6:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: Fox
gives "M*A*S*H" fans "Ultimate" screw job too
Re-imagining
- v.
aka "Pulling a Tim
Burton" : To take an established
film franchise in a new direction, which is decidedly, not for
the better.
(also see pulling a Zanuck)
Pulling a Zanuck -
v. To hire the wrong man for the job and ruin a pictures chances
of being good from the start. (also see The Producer's Joke)
The Producer's Joke -
A Director and a Producer are in the desert scouting a location
for a shoot when suddenly the car breaks down. They walk for hours until
they find an oasis. The director begins drinking from it thirstily, while
the producer proceeds to urinate into it.
"What
the hell do you think you're doing!?!", asks the director.
To
which the producer replies, "I'm making it better."
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From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
.htmlToyfare often portrays Kirk as a sex maniac ready and willing to do any species, gender or object....!
Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
Thats funny!
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.....Star Trek where after Kirk learns it is a "probe" droid locks himself in a room with it!
At one point the droid lands on a distant forest planet...... Tim --
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From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/19/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
.htmlDoes anyone have any pics of Oliver? Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
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-- The show I saw him on was an old episode of Unexplained Mysteries. Not sure what year it was from though.
Neil
My question for the two of you is this: Where did you see this chimp Oliver? Is he the same one that was featured on the TV documentary called (something like) "Humanzee"?
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Message: 39348 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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Strange that even though this
was written up on CNN, I
haven't seen it on the news.
Anyone seen this on the news?
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Message: 39349 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Fanfic |
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Seems the other group indulges in Fanfic.
Some may know I don't cared for fanfic,
especially crossover fanfic. Though as
a kid I did wonder about a POTA - Star
Trek crossover. Lately I'm been pondered
a crossover with the John deLancie character
from Next Generation and Day of the Dolphin.
I'm thinking of calling it . . . Fa Q. ;
)
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From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 5/20/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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>My question for the two of you is this: Where did you see this chimp
>Oliver?
>Is he the same one that was featured on the TV documentary called
>(something
>like) "Humanzee"?
"Humanzee" I believe, is correct. It first aired on "Animal Planet" in 2003.
Oliver is still around. I believe he lives in the chimp sanctuary in
Arizona. He not walking upright these days as he suffers from arthristis. As
for the green tunic. Well, he'd smoking a cigar too. He loves his cigars as
well as his beer. :0)
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Date: 5/20/2006 |
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All Day
This event repeats every year.
The next reminder for this event will be sent in 14 minutes.
Notes:
The movie Escape from the planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1971
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Date: 5/20/2006 |
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-- The place they
mentioned on the show I saw was called Primarily Primates. I did a quick search
on Google and found their site (http://www.primarilyprimates.org/index.html")
and had a quick look and found a couple of links that mention of
Oliver.
Neil
"Humanzee" I believe, is correct. It first aired on
"Animal Planet" in 2003. Oliver is still around. I believe he lives in the
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Date: 5/20/2006 |
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All Day
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Notes:
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From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Study shows apes can plan ahead |
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Bonobos and
orangutans are capable of future planning, according to a study published in the
journal Science.
Researchers found the apes could select a suitable tool for
reaching a treat, carry it away, and return with it to retrieve the reward hours
later.
Forward planning is thought by some to be a uniquely human
trait.
The German team suggests such skills may have evolved about 14
million years ago, when bonobos, orangutans and humans shared a common ancestor.
"We showed that individuals are
able to pick up a tool, transport it to a different location, keep it there for
at least an hour, and bring it back to solve a problem," explained lead author
Dr Josep Call, from the Max Plank Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
"Previous studies had shown that chimps and other animals can
transport tools to solve a problem on the spot - so they will go and even make a
tool and then they will bring it to solve a problem.
"But the main difference with the tasks that we tried is that
here when they transport the tool and save it, they have no use for the tool.
They need to anticipate that they will require it solve a problem in the
future."
The waiting room
The scientists investigated this with a series of experiments.
In one of these, the apes were taught how to use a tool to
retrieve a treat from a piece of apparatus.
Then the researchers offered the apes a selection of tools -
some suitable, some not - but blocked their immediate access to the reward.
Instead, the apes were led away to another location where they had to wait for
an hour before being returned to the original room where, if they had selected
the correct tool, they could release their treat.
Six out of 16 times the apes successfully chose the correct
tool, kept it with them in the waiting room, and then used it to access the
reward.
The team found the success rate
was about the same when they increased the waiting time to 14 hours - enough
time for the apes to sleep in between collecting and using the tool.
"Traditional learning theory has a hard time explaining this,
and several scientists had postulated that future planning is something beyond
the capabilities of animals, so we were very surprised to see this," said Dr
Call.
The scientists looked at bonobos and orangutans because they
represent our closest and most distant great ape relatives, respectively. Humans
and bonobos evolved into separate lineages about five to seven million years
ago; orangutans about 14 million years ago.
"Because both orangutans and bonobos showed the ability to
future plan in these tasks, this means this skill could have been present in the
common ancestor to all great apes," Dr Call told the BBC News website.
Next, the team plans to investigate whether the apes will
protect their tool if they share the waiting room with a competitor.
Neil
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Message: 39355 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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In a message dated 5/18/2006 5:55:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
Humans, chimps 'got it on'
Actually this isn't that shocking, when you consider that everyone
looked like a monkey back then, there no reason why anyone would
even notice the split between apes and human for a million years.
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Message: 39356 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Humans, chimps 'got it on' |
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Very good point!
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[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 21 May 2006 7:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Humans,
chimps 'got it on'
In a
message dated 5/18/2006 5:55:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
Humans,
chimps 'got it on'
Actually
this isn't that shocking, when you consider that everyone
looked
like a monkey back then, there no reason why anyone would
even
notice the split
between apes and human for a million years.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39357 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Toyfare often portrays Kirk as a sex maniac ready and willing to do
any species, gender or object....!
*** "Denny Crane!"
He's STILL a sex maniac ready and willing, etc. Check out BOSTON LEGAL
when the box set comes out (or, is it in stores already?).
Patrick <.html
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Message: 39358 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Oliver |
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-- Here you go
Tim:
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
\"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> > Does anyone have any
pics of Oliver?
Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39359 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA in Toyfare |
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Haven’t missed an episode.
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Monday, 22 May 2006 1:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA in
Toyfare
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
\"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> Toyfare often portrays Kirk as a sex maniac ready and willing to do
any species, gender or object....!
*** "Denny Crane!"
He's STILL a sex maniac ready and willing, etc. Check out BOSTON LEGAL
when the box set comes out (or, is it in stores already?).
Patrick
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39360 |
From: sparkytb2005 |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Heston of the Apes |
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Sorry if this is old news, and it may be to many of you -- but someone
out there has performed an amazing experiment on our favourite movie
and what reveals itself is utterly brilliant and hilarious at the same
time...
http://www.mikeolenick.com/videos/hestonapes.html"
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39361 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/21/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Oliver |
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Thanks Neil.....eerily human like......how old is he? do you have a link to read about him? Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
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-- Here you go Tim:
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: >
> Does anyone have any pics of Oliver? Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39362 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/22/2006 |
| Subject: Rev' on the POTA #4 |
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Just received my
copy of ROTPOTA issue 4. I haven't had a chance to read the thing yet but did
notice something on the cover straight away. Issue 4 is dated MAR(CH) 2006. The
thing is issue 3 was also dated MARCH 2006. Is this a mistake? Or were both
these issues meant to have a March release date?
As ever just
curious,
Neil
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Message: 39363 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/22/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Oliver |
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-- Yeah very
eerie. The footage that I saw on the program that showed him walking
really did look freaky.
As for any more
info on him I included a couple of links in a previous post and here's a couple
more that I found (though they appear to be somewhat identical
articles):
Neil
Thanks Neil.....eerily human like......how old is
he? do you have a link to read about him?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39364 |
From: scifiartistanime |
Date: 5/22/2006 |
| Subject: 2006 San Diego Comic Con |
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meet fellow POTA members in person and talk about Apes.
Kevin
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39365 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: ROTPOTA #4 |
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Well I've had a chance to read ROTPOTA #4 now so
here's my 2 cents worth.
The main story is still coming
along very nicely and Tom Fowler's
art is fantastic. I like the way Kolp's forces are wearing uniforms that resemble the mutant's
garb from Battle but there are a few things I don't like. One thing is the
couple of panels that have Caesar and a few of other apes leaping through the air like
the apes from Burton's movie. Visually the panels are stunning and have great impact but I just
don't like all that manic ape leaping stuff
myself. It was one of the things that really turned me off that movie and
maybe that is clouding my judgement
here? Another thing that grates is the colouring over the pencils.
Don't get me wrong, the actual
colouring and the pencils are wonderful, its just little things like the
way the pencils overlap the panel lines or as in
one panel where a building's lines overlap the jet that is flying
over it (page 10), to me these
things make it look a tad sloppy. But
these are just minor personal irritants. Overall the comic as a whole and the
main story especially are great.
Also
many people, it seems, have raved over the back-up story. Myself I
didn't like it that much. I think I can understand what you were going for but
it really didn't do much for me. I really don't like the ending. It is obvious the
female chimp had taken the human baby as a substitute for her own recently
murdered offspring and that is totally understandable. What isn't is the actions
of policewoman Taylor. The chimp gave her the baby, with no fuss and totally
unharmed. So why then does she have to kill the chimp? What reason is there for
that? She is no longer a danger to the baby, Taylor or anyone else at that
moment. To me it just doesn't make sense
considering how policewoman Taylor felt about the chimp and her baby
at the start of the story.
Neil
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Message: 39366 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: ROTPOTA #4 |
.htmlI've been waiting for someone to say that they did not like the
seconday story in ROTPOTA #4. I can easily see how this is would not
be everyone's cup of tea. The entire story hinges upon that last act
of insanity and either you buy into it or you don't. It also ennerved
me when I first read it, but unlike you (and I'm sure others), it
really made me ponder the 'why did she do that?' question. And it was
at that point that I really got to enjoy the story.
My take on it is that she was not the most stable person in the first
place. She obviously had a chip on her shoulder with her grumblings
that we read right at the beginning of the story. Here she is
begrudging her dad when those events in her life have been old
history. At the same time she does have some feeling for everyone
concerned. What really makes this story nice is that while she herself
does not know it, her fate (because of her actions) are immediately
tied to apes, and the reader also knows that her dad's fate was also
tied to apes. When Taylor screams out at the end of POTA, "Damn them!
They really did it. They blew it up." is he not (essentially) also
talking about her? Emmotions are running high and she, in essence,
just loses it and did some blowing up of her own, perhaps regretfully.
Like POTA, this is a human nature story and apes are just used as a
backdrop to convey the story. This could have been any hostage
taking, riot or other tense situation piting two opposing groups.
One last point. The believability of the story is what really
determines whether someone likes it or not. If the central character
is portrayed as being too irrational before the climax, then the
shooting becomes something the reader can guess all to easily. If the
character is portrayed as being very soft and docile, then the event
really becomes irrational. A fine line indeed, and certainly NOT an
easy task for any writer (or artist having to convey those feelings).
Now I that I realize that I'm begining to tell an artist how hard it
is to be an artist, I think I'll shut up now and crawl back to my
corner. ;)
Dario
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From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:16 am
Subject: [PotaDG] ROTPOTA #4
> Well I've had a chance to read ROTPOTA #4 now so here's my 2 cents
> worth.
>
> The main story is still coming along very nicely and Tom Fowler's
> art is
> fantastic. I like the way Kolp's forces are wearing uniforms that
> resemble the mutant's garb from Battle but there are a few things I
> don't like. One thing is the couple of panels that have Caesar and
> a few
> of other apes leaping through the air like the apes from Burton's
> movie.Visually the panels are stunning and have great impact but I
> just don't
> like all that manic ape leaping stuff myself. It was one of the
things
> that really turned me off that movie and maybe that is clouding my
> judgement here?
> Another thing that grates is the colouring over the pencils. Don't
get
> me wrong, the actual colouring and the pencils are wonderful, its
just
> little things like the way the pencils overlap the panel lines or
> as in
> one panel where a building's lines overlap the jet that is flying
over
> it (page 10), to me these things make it look a tad sloppy. But these
> are just minor personal irritants. Overall the comic as a whole
> and the
> main story especially are great.
>
> Also many people, it seems, have raved over the back-up story.
> Myself I
> didn't like it that much. I think I can understand what you were
going
> for but it really didn't do much for me. I really don't like the
> ending.It is obvious the female chimp had taken the human baby as
> a substitute
> for her own recently murdered offspring and that is totally
> understandable. What isn't is the actions of policewoman Taylor. The
> chimp gave her the baby, with no fuss and totally unharmed. So why
> thendoes she have to kill the chimp? What reason is there for
> that? She is
> no longer a danger to the baby, Taylor or anyone else at that
> moment. To
> me it just doesn't make sense considering how policewoman Taylor felt
> about the chimp and her baby at the start of the story.
>
> Neil
>
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Message: 39367 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: 2006 San Diego Comic Con |
.htmlI WISH I could go...when is it? and are any POTA stars lined up?
scifiartistanime <PofTAfan@...> wrote:
Is anyone from the group will be attending the Con in San Diego this year. I would like
to meet fellow POTA members in person and talk about Apes. Kevin PofTAfan
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39368 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Oliver |
.htmlThanks Neil! Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
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-- Yeah very eerie. The footage that I saw on the program that showed him walking really did look freaky.
As for any more info on him I included a couple of links in a previous post and here's a couple more that I found (though they appear to be somewhat identical articles):
Neil
Thanks Neil.....eerily human like......how old is he? do you have a link to read about him?
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Message: 39369 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG |
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Message: 39370 |
From: Ty Templeton |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Rev' on the POTA #4 |
.htmlWow, did we do that?
I think we made a mistake then. There's also two spelling typo's in the text of the stories, but I ain't telling where. Ty
On 5/22/06,
Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
Just received my
copy of ROTPOTA issue 4. I haven't had a chance to read the thing yet but did
notice something on the cover straight away. Issue 4 is dated MAR(CH) 2006. The
thing is issue 3 was also dated MARCH 2006. Is this a mistake? Or were both
these issues meant to have a March release date?
As ever just
curious,
Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39371 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Re: 2006 San Diego Comic Con |
.htmlDon't know about any POTA stars showing up, the con is July 20th to the
23rd.
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From: Tim "apefan" < apefan23@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 2006 San Diego Comic Con
I WISH I could go...when is it? and are any POTA stars lined up?
scifiartistanime < PofTAfan@...> wrote: Is anyone from the group
will be attending the Con in San Diego this year. I would like to
meet fellow POTA members in person and talk about Apes.
Kevin
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Message: 39372 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2006 |
| Subject: Goldsmith bio preview |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39373 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 5/24/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Goldsmith bio preview |
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Great web site.
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
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Subject: [PotaDG] Goldsmith bio
preview
Extracts now online:
http://www.jerrygoldsmithonline.com/spotlight_biography_preview.htm
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39374 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 5/24/2006 |
| Subject: Marvel UK issue 84 |
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Issue 84 is now available to download from Hunter's site. It the stunning conclusion to the 4-part Future History Chronicles story that started in issue 81. This issue also has a letters page.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39375 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 5/24/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 84 |
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-- Thanks
Greg.
Neil
Issue 84 is now available to download from Hunter's site. It the stunning
conclusion to the 4-part Future History Chronicles story that started in issue
81. This issue also has a letters page.
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