>
> In a message dated 1/3/2007 9:31:59 PM Central Standard Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
>
> > My best guess is that Aldo dons the poncho-collar as a way of
> > indicating that he is seizing power and declaring Martial Law.
>
> *** I agree with you 100% on this point!***
>

>
> -- This is very, very good!
>
> Find the photos here folks:
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/photos/browse/f004
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/photos/browse/f004>
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/photos/browse/f004>
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

> Of theskulpter
> Sent: Sunday, 7 January 2007 11:03 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] New General Ursus custom figure with Helemt photos
> posted.
>
>
>
> Hi Ape Gang,I just posted photos of the new General Ursus and

> sculpts i did for a new custom 12" figure with hair. I will try to

> better clear shots very soon, but this is all I have for now. Hope
> every one is starting the New Year with an Apes film in their dvd
> Player. Ok apes have a good one, The Farrow.
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?

> sgId=42675/stime=1168131776/nc1=3858797/nc2=3848618/nc3=4299915>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Brad Smith" <bsmith@...> wrote:
> I'm working on some Apes artwork, that includes some glyphs, and I'd
> like to be as accurate as possible.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Brad Smith" <bsmith@...> wrote:
>
> This may seem like a silly question, but I'm looking for more
> information on the Simian glyphs. Is there a databank where I may be
> able to look at all of the recorded symbols? Have they been given
> meanings or anything like that? Something along the lines of Star
> Wars' "Aurek-Besh" alphabet?
>
> I'm working on some Apes artwork, that includes some glyphs, and I'd
> like to be as accurate as possible.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Not that I know of but I sure wish there was. It would have helped
> me out a lot in the past with some f my pictures, that's for sure!
>
> Neil
>
 You don't want to worry about stuff like that !!!

Look at Tom Sutton and Mike Ploog , They made it up as they went along. I mean Ploog even gave some of the apes bangs...

Oh we're back to that argument again...

Best, Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 11:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

 You don't want to worry about stuff like that !!!

Look at Tom Sutton and Mike Ploog , They made it up as they went along. I mean Ploog even gave some of the apes bangs...

Oh we're back to that argument again...

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Smith
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 1:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

Right now I've only got one finished Apes piece, which is here...

http://theartofbrad smith.com/ Portfolio/ BIGTheLawgiver. jpg

Because the piece is so large, the image is quad-scanned, which is why
it may look somewhat blurry or sectioned, or even photoshopped. It's
actually white and black prisma pencils on an orange canvas - one of
my favorite pieces for some reason. The likeness isn't all that great,
but I like it.

I'm pretty sure the glyphs are fairly accurate, too - I used a screen
comparison and kept the Sideshow statue at hand, as well.

My current project is still a work in progress, but I've been showing
up-dated sneak peaks every day on my main page. I think you guys will
like where it's going.

www.TheArtOfBradSmi th.com

.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Not an argument Graham, it's a discussion! ;-) Arguments are in the
> next room down the hall...
>
> Neil
>
That's just reminded me I meant to watch Life of Brian again...

Best, Graham

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Brad Smith" <bsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Right now I've only got one finished Apes piece, which is here...
>
> http://theartofbradsmith.com/Portfolio/BIGTheLawgiver.jpg
>
> Because the piece is so large, the image is quad-scanned, which is why
> it may look somewhat blurry or sectioned, or even photoshopped. It's
> actually white and black prisma pencils on an orange canvas - one of
> my favorite pieces for some reason. The likeness isn't all that great,
> but I like it.
>
> I'm pretty sure the glyphs are fairly accurate, too - I used a screen
> comparison and kept the Sideshow statue at hand, as well.
>
> My current project is still a work in progress, but I've been showing
> up-dated sneak peaks every day on my main page. I think you guys will
> like where it's going.
>
> www.TheArtOfBradSmith.com

Thanks for sharing Brad, Web sites looking good.

Best wishes Graham.

> Right now I've only got one finished Apes piece,
> which is here...
>
>

>
> Because the piece is so large, the image is
> quad-scanned, which is why
> it may look somewhat blurry or sectioned, or even
> photoshopped. It's
> actually white and black prisma pencils on an orange
> canvas - one of
> my favorite pieces for some reason. The likeness
> isn't all that great,
> but I like it.
>
> I'm pretty sure the glyphs are fairly accurate, too
> - I used a screen
> comparison and kept the Sideshow statue at hand, as
> well.
>
> My current project is still a work in progress, but
> I've been showing
> up-dated sneak peaks every day on my main page. I
> think you guys will
> like where it's going.
>
> www.TheArtOfBradSmith.com
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Smith <bsmith@...>
Date: Monday, January 8, 2007 10:57 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

> Right now I've only got one finished Apes piece, which is here...
>
> http://theartofbradsmith.com/Portfolio/BIGTheLawgiver.jpg
>
> Because the piece is so large, the image is quad-scanned, which is why
> it may look somewhat blurry or sectioned, or even photoshopped. It's
> actually white and black prisma pencils on an orange canvas - one of
> my favorite pieces for some reason. The likeness isn't all that great,
> but I like it.
>
> I'm pretty sure the glyphs are fairly accurate, too - I used a screen
> comparison and kept the Sideshow statue at hand, as well.
>
> My current project is still a work in progress, but I've been showing
> up-dated sneak peaks every day on my main page. I think you guys will
> like where it's going.
>
> www.TheArtOfBradSmith.com
>
>
>
>
>

> Neil and Graham are already trembling in their boots at the thought

> Hmm. I always wondered how the ape letters changed from standard

> Don't know how many already knew this but whilst
> searching for other
> stuff I accidentally stumbled across the identity of
> the person who
> designed the Planet of the Apes logo:
>
>
> Type designer Ed Benguiat
>
>
> Master typographer
>

> Ed Benguiat is
> one of the most important font and logo designers in
> the modern era of
> design and publishing. He has created the lettering
> used in logotypes
> for the New York Times, Sports Illustrated, Esquire,
> and Playboy. He
> designed such typefaces as
>

> Avant Garde Gothic and
>

> Caslon,
> which you probably have installed on your
> <http://www.macworld.com/2001/04/bc/25benguiat/>
> computer as you read
> this. (For you typophiles out there, House
> Industries has a font
> collection
>

> tribute to Ed Benguiat you may be interested in.)
>
>
>

> rt=benguiat> Edward Benguiat also produced type used
> in movie posters,
> including logos for
>

> Planet of
> the Apes and
>

> ly.jpg&img_title=Super%20Fly%20movie%20poster> Super
> Fly. It's
> interesting how a good logo can elevate a poster for
> films about those
> or a 70s cocaine . This is especially true in the
> case of the for
>

> ly.jpg&img_title=Super%20Fly%20movie%20poster> Super
> Fly, which gives
> the wonderfully "swashy" Benguiat logo the
> prominence it deserves.
>

> tation> Blaxploitation never looked so good.
>
> (http://www.posterwire.com/archives/category/logos/)
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>

>
> WOW!! Incredible job on ALL your customs!!! Do you sell copies of

> heads?? No garrison is complete without them!!Thanks so much

>

>
> Even the Topps card series referred to Urko as Gorilla General
> https://pota.goatley.com/tv_series_cards/potatv05-1.jpg
>

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:28 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com; friends & fugitives
Subject: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 117

At last the long-awaited issue 117 is here! Why is it long-awaited, you ask? Because this is the first issue of the Mighty Marvel Cut-Ups Caper! This week you'll find a full-color backdrop on the final page of the issue. Next week there'll be some figures you can cut out and pose in front of it. Time to break out the scissors and glue!

 

This week's issue continues the Battle and Beneath adaptations, and also includes a letter column.

 

https://pota. goatley.com

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Unused Marvel Comic Page!

Ok, it must be me [well that and the fact that I just never seem to
navigate these yahoo sites well :) ]where in the file section is the
Marvel Mag art page?
Thanks!!

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: General Urko new Head sculpt by The Farrow,+ Merry Christmas...

Even the Topps card series referred to Urko as Gorilla General
https://pota. goatley.com/ tv_series_ cards/potatv05- 1.jpg

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 1:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

Great stuff Brad.

Neil and Graham are already trembling in their boots at the thought of
some competion.

Also like the work in progress.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

... Actually, I've always just felt that their heiroglyphics are status symbols, showing their "rank", "title", "position", etc....

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Smith
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 3:23 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

I may be a young lurker, but I've been around a while, and I know Neil
and Graham's work well - and absolutely admire it. They've got nothing
to fear...

.

_,_._,___

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:16 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

All right Big Nose!  ;)

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Smith
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Logos for the Planet of the Apes movies

It's amazing that one individual is responsible for so much... Seems
like those days are long over, though. The days of the art of
typesetting and design, I mean.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 4:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

*** You're correct that Virgil didn't have hieroglyphics. .. (Neither did Caesar, Lisa, or any of the other main apes... The only time I seen any hieroglyphics are on Aldo's collar...)

I don't think they ever switched over to their hieroglyphics as being their "writing"... I believe that the hieros are only used as ornamentation, not communication. .. (except to "communicate" your status...)

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of theskulpter
Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 5:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New General Ursus custom figure with Helemt photos posted.

Thansk Neil, and thanks again for making the link, I always
appriciate it, The Farrow

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 6:43 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

In a message dated 1/8/2007 9:57:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, atragon1@aol. com writes:

I wonder when and why they swtiched over from letters?

 

I think the gorillas had trouble writing letter correctly,

like a little kids lemonade sign.  That and the fact

that most everything human fell out of favor.

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 1/8/2007 9:54:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> mlccougar@... writes:
>
> *** Yes, that's all true... Actually, I've always just felt that their  heiroglyphics are status symbols, showing their "rank", "title", "position",  etc....
>
>
> Hmm. I always wondered how the ape letters changed from standard English to
> the glyphs. Remember, in BATTLE the apes are learning to write in English.
> Does Virgil have the glyphs on his clothes? I dont think so... I wonder when and
> why they swtiched over from letters?
> Patrick, any theories?
>
> Bill
>

***I could just murder the people in charge of MSN dial-up services. Twice the bastards have disconnected me from the internet before I've had a chance to finish and send replies to this message regarding the Glyphs. They're "sorry for the inconvenience"... Sorry, my ass!

Well, here goes again...

In my own POTA-project's scenario, I try to link a bunch of different details presented in the movies & TV episodes in ways that were certainly not intended by the dudes at APJAC, but which lends itself to it.

In BATTLE, we have an "old" orangutan who is depicted as being even older than Caesar – Mandemus. If Mandemus had been conceived before the arrival of the Ape-onauts, how did he come to be one of the "evolved" apes?

Could the conception of Mandemus have anything to do with the Glyphs, by any chance?

In my scenario, the U.S. Army intelligence people became aware of the possibility that a group of Nazis – perhaps even Hitler himself – may have fled the Fatherland in Europe for a "Last Redoubt"... a secret base located on the all-but-inaccessible continent of Antarctica (which the Nazis had claimed for the Third Reich in the late 1930's).

Captain George Taylor of the U.S.A.A.F. takes part in a top-secret mission, an invasion of Nazi-occupied Antarctica, in the winter of 1946-to-1947 (when it's summer in the southern hemisphere). Operation HIGHJUMP prepares the way, setting up a launch site on Little America in the Ross Sea [80d South, 163d West]; while the fleet of Navy ships splits into two – one going eastward, the other going westward around Antarctica's coastline – the squadron of bombers which fly to the prepped airstrip at Little America refuel and fly over the South Pole (hence the name of the airstrike team: Operation POLE VAULT). Both the Naval forces and the U.S.A.A.F. forces are to converge on the site of Neuschwabenland (the name the Nazis gave to Antarctica territory where it is thought that they built a secret base: an underground city called Neu Berlin , situated on the same longitude as the original Berlin in Germany at 52.31 degrees North). Hasslein alludes to this attempt to kill Hitler in "ESCAPE"...

While flying over Antarctica, Taylor and his crew (in a B-52 named the "Taylor Maid"... with appropriate nosecone art: a sexy woman in a French maid's outfit) encounter "foo fighter"-type vehicles... flying saucers, if you will. As a result of their "close encounter" the U.S. military becomes aware of the presence of "alien" beings dwelling in a secret base of their own in Antarctica. After dealing with the Nazi threat at Neu Berlin, the U.S. military prepares to send out survey teams to the Antarctica sites where those "foo fighters" were seen... prompting the beings flying them to abandon their base in Antarctica.

A few months later, there's the "Roswell" incident. The crash of a flying disc – which was reported in the newspapers in an official press release by the Army Air Force base, before it was subsequently covered up. Two major lines of investigation are begun:

1) The exotic technology is examined – back-engineered by a team of scientists including Dr. Otto Hasslein, so that ultimately they can develop it for America's top-secret military space program: A.N.S.A., the American Nearlight Stardrive Agency.

2) The nature of the "aliens" is studied. Eventually, it is discovered that these short, thin, grey-skinned beings (called "the Greys") are not aliens at all. Rather, they are a separate branch of hominids, sharing a common ancestor with Humans, Chimpanzees, Gorillas, and Orangutans – a "concestor" which lived ten million years ago.

A group of true extraterrestrials had come from a planet orbiting a star which was once only a few lightyears away from Sol -- at least it was 10 MYA ("Million Years Ago"). The aliens from that other system had taken some of the population of Protopithecoids up to a hermetically-sealed site on the Moon and, through a process of selective breeding, morphed that original Protopithecoid into the species of Greys. The skin adapted to the same color or hue as the lunar dust and rocks – grey. Their bodies, adapted to lunar gravity (1/6^th that of Earth), came to be thin and strong enough to carry a big head on a thin neck. They could only endure short intervals back on Earth, later on... since they weigh 6 times their normal weight here.

Eventually, the Aliens left the Solar System, leaving behind the race of Greys on the Moon, with sufficient technology at their disposal to make periodic trips down to Earth to replenish the artificial lunar habitat with water, air, essential minerals, etc. Hence, the base in Antarctica, which had remained out of the realm of human knowledge until World War II.

The UFO wreckage recovered from the Mac Brazel ranch near Roswell included struts which were adorned with certain figures which Jessie Marcel said resembled hieroglyphs . I'm having it that the Greys spoke a language which resembles ancient Sumerian a bit, and which used glyph-symbols much as the Egyptians did, though the Grey-glyphs are not Egyptian-based.

When the Greys fled their Antarctica base, most of them returned to their home on the Moon, but some of them didn't have the wherewithal to do so... so they fled to certain places on Earth where they hoped they could hide. Central Africa and Indonesia.

There, they used their scientific know-how to perform experiments on the primitive apes living there. Transgenics... the alteration of a genome by the introduction of genes from other species. Specifically, they alter simian DNA in such a way as to make a hybrid trio of species in which each individual would have a larger and more complex brain in which a Grey could telepathically transfer its own Mind.

The "evolved" apes were thus created... but the Greys were unsuccessful in their attempt to `hijack' the minds of the hybrids. For brief times they could "possess" them, but the ape minds would eventually reject them, the way somebody with an organ transplant tends to reject a transplanted organ.

With their plans foiled, the Greys stuck around long enough to teach the first generation of evolved apes at least a certain amount of their own "holy" language. Those later ape names which were not given by human slave-masters (Frank, Lisa, Aldo, etc) and/or based on Greco-Roman civilization (Virgil, Honorius, Maximus, Cornelius, etc) were from this original "God"-given ape language. Names like Zako, Nima, Elta , Urko, Veska, etc.

When the Pet Plague left Man without pets, he first took monkeys and infant apes as pets. Later, when they ran out of those, they started taking adult apes as pets, which required the Ape Management conditioning procedures. These adult (and evolved) apes were fluent in the "holy" language... but they had been warned not to speak in the presence of humans. However, at those "unauthorized ape gatherings" mentioned by the Watch Commander, those apes would whisper amongst each other, not knowing the meaning of the English spoken around them.

ANSA had discovered that the star system from which the Aliens came (10 MYA) had receded from our Solar System over the course of those tens of millions of years at a rate of about one lightyear every 32,000 years. In our present time, that means that the Solar System – orbiting the galactic center faster than that other star system – has passed ahead of it some 320 lightyears. It is believed that the Aliens who created the Greys later returned to their homeworld... taking with them various species of Earth-based life. Thus, when the mission is sent out by ANSA to that faraway star system in the constellation Orion, Taylor isn't surprised to find Humans (albeit mute ones), Apes (albeit talking ones), and Horses. The ANSA personnel on the Orion Mission perhaps expected to find Earth-based life flourishing on it.

When the Greys taught the evolved apes their own language, they also told them where in "heaven" the throne of "God" dwells: the Star that represents the Head of Orion (or, the Eye in the head of Orion). The Supreme Ruler of the Universe, then, is believed to reside at a specific place in the night sky.

Aldo's poncho (when not worn, and spread onto a flat surface) is a CIRCLE-shaped item studded with round studs, which represent the stars in the skies of the northern hemisphere. There is a hole in the center through which Aldo sticks his head. And, there is a GLYPH on it. The glyph is situated right on the circular edge, below his neck, representing the position of Orion on the Celestial Equator.

My take on this poncho/collar, then, is that the Glyph represents the constellation Orion , the topmost part of the glyph representing the Star where the Throne of God is believed to be. The supreme rulership over all apes is signified by the wearing of that poncho, since it evokes the Supreme Ruler of the Universe... the God whose "angels" (the Greys) were the go-between Makers of the Apes.

When Aldo put that poncho on, he was declaring that he – and not Caesar – was now the Supreme Ruler of the Apes. That it was the Will of God that He be represented (militarily) by the wearer of that bit of regalia. Prior to this, Caesar had forbidden "General" Aldo from wearing that item – and the other apes in Ape City had supported Caesar in this. Aldo, however, after the attack on his gorilla sentries, believes that it is his right and duty to declare Martial Law... to don the regalia of Supreme Rulership and take up the task of militarily defending his people from invading humans. And, with this crisis at hand, Aldo gambles on having sufficient support from the frightened ape population to override any objections from Caesar's partisans.

"Caesar... is not here!"

So somebody has to step up to the plate, and that somebody is Aldo.

Patrick

P.S. Keep in mind, folks, that this scenario was not intended by the folks at APJAC and was cooked up by me for the sake of my own POTA-project. It ain't canon for anybody but me.

> There's a Hairdresser at a nearby local shopping
> centre that uses the POTA
> font - I'll have to take a photo.
>
>
>
> So if a guy designed it FOR POTA, it really is POTA
> font!
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Brad Smith
> Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:43 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Logos for the Planet of the
> Apes movies
>
>
>
> It's amazing that one individual is responsible for
> so much... Seems
> like those days are long over, though. The days of
> the art of
> typesetting and design, I mean.
>
>
> --
>

> -- But they did still write, look at the protest
> banners in Beneath.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of TZer0@...
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 6:43 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/8/2007 9:57:35 P.M. Central
> Standard Time,
> atragon1@... writes:
>
> I wonder when and why they swtiched over from
> letters?
>
>
> I think the gorillas had trouble writing letter
> correctly,
> like a little kids lemonade sign. That and the fact
> that most everything human fell out of favor.
>
>
>

>

>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Yes - the only thing is he is never referred to as GENERAL in the
actual
> show.
>
>
>
> Greg P might know if the scripts ever refer to him as such?
>
> Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2007 2:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Logos for the Planet of the Apes movies

There is a Suzuki dealer here in town that uses it
too! Been meaning to share the logo so here it is!!

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 4:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

*** You're correct that Virgil didn't have hieroglyphics. .. (Neither did Caesar, Lisa, or any of the other main apes... The only time I seen any hieroglyphics are on Aldo's collar...)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gp3085
Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 10:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: General Urko new Head sculpt by The Farrow,+ Merry Christmas...

Nope, he's not refered to as General in the scripts. In many early
scripts he's called Ursus (and even then without the rank General),
just as Pete Burke was originally named Stan Kovak.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 5:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: General Urko new Head sculpt by The Farrow,+ Merry Christmas...

So it seems they have intentionally excluded the “GENERAL” title.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Ape's Shuffle

This is something a wee bit different. Cougar, is this something you guys putting the 'POTA related music CD' would be needing?

 

http://cgi.ebay. com.au/ws/ eBayISAPI. dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220061820884&ssPageName=STRK: MEWA:IT&ih=012

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2007 2:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

plus Z&C could read Taylor's notes and "My name is
Taylor"

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> This is something a wee bit different. Cougar, is this something you
> guys putting the 'POTA related music CD' would be needing?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
> <http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&rd=1&item=220061820884
> &ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012>
> &rd=1&item=220061820884&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012
>
> Neil
>

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2007 9:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

I think you will find it’s a budget thing (like the length of the fur on chins etc).

 

The glyphs cost time and effort to construct – so they got shelved.

 

The only reason they used the PLANET costumes is to save money – they were still hanging around so they were used.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

 

-- This is another thing I had never even thought about before!

I wonder if it was a deliberate move to get rid of the glyphs or was it just something mundane like the costumes without glyphs were probably background ones and therefore had less wear and tear?

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 4:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

*** You're correct that Virgil didn't have hieroglyphics. .. (Neither did Caesar, Lisa, or any of the other main apes... The only time I seen any hieroglyphics are on Aldo's collar...)

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2007 11:22 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ape's Shuffle

I "think" we may have access to that song, but still, any help assembling the CD together is appreciated, so thanks for the tip!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2007 11:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Simian Gylphs

*** While I'm sure there are some that might disagree with me, I have always thought there being no hieroglyphics was deliberate.. . It'd show that their "status system" wouldn't have been developed yet...

Same with the TV series... Galen has no glyphs because he is without any power or position...

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ape's Shuffle

Well, so far it is still in "the works" and by that I mean we're still compiling things...

Chris has quite a few things already, but he is working on getting things from PLANET, so until he hears back from that guy who said he'd get them to us, we're temporarily at a standstill.. .




In a message dated 1/14/2007 9:50:36 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

-- And speaking of said CD is there any news on when it will be finished and available for the masses?

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2007 4:32 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com; friends & fugitives
Subject: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 118

Issue 118 is now available to download from Hunter's site. The figures promised last week can now be printed, cut-out and placed in front of last week's backdrop.

 

This week's issue has chapters in the continuing Battle and Beneath adaptations, as well as a letter column. Careful readers may be able to determine by checking the length of each adaptation segment to determine which one will conclude in the upcoming final issue 123 and which will continue into the Mighty World of Marvel issues, which we'll also be posting.

 

https://pota. goatley.com

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In case some of you guys don't check out
> youtube.com for POTA stuff, here's a few
> brilliant POTA music videos people have done . . .
>
>
> _YouTube - Planet of the Apes - MUSICAL_
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vb9fyyzxI4&mode=related&search=)
>
> _YouTube - Zira's Theme_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=7P5xt_6ldrg)
>
> _YouTube - Planet of 1999_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=2gthuX5_DF0)
>

>
> In case some of you guys don't check out
> youtube.com for POTA stuff, here's a few
> brilliant POTA music videos people have done . . .
>
>
> _YouTube - Planet of the Apes - MUSICAL_
>

>
>
> _YouTube - Zira's Theme_
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5xt_6ldrg)
>
> _YouTube - Planet of 1999_
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gthuX5_DF0)
>