-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 10:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes

Come on, guys... does everything have to link with everything else?  Is what you want to throw all your favorite SF films into a blender and see what it tastes like?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 10:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes

There was only one kind of pussy on the planet of the apes, and men... you know what that was!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 4:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes

We were given sample pages from Revolution before the comics were printed. I didn't care for the artwork, so I didn't waste my money buying them. Now I feel even better about my decision.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 8:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Kirby book.

 

Hi Dario, Did you hear that Marvel's collecting Kirby's Devil Dinosaur, all 9 issues , large format hard cover for $30 US, should be out early August.

This was Marvel's response when they heard Kamandi had been optioned for a Saturday morning cartoon, It was felt that they should have some thing that would compete and asked Kirby to come up with a concept which they might be able to sell to the networks.

Not Kirby's best stuff but...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:16 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes

In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:03:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, atragon1@aol. com writes:

Could it be possible that the dome city that was the home of Logan, Jessica, Francis and the sandmen could have existed in the same universe as the POTA?

NO!

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> -- It works for me:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry!
> Neil .'-)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Haristas@...
> Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:16 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of
> the Apes
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:03:24 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> atragon1@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> Could it be possible that the dome city that was the
> home of Logan,
> Jessica, Francis and the sandmen could have existed
> in the same universe
> as the POTA?
>
>
>
>
> NO!
> .
>
>

>

>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: atragon1@...
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes

>
> In a message dated 2/15/2007 5:48:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> abmac@... writes:
>
> No, it's Planet of the Apes, not One Small City of Apes on a
> Diverse
> Post-Apocalyptic Planet.
>
>
> Mutated animals and plants would fit in, as would small groups of
> intelligent humans, but using characters and situations from other
> movies is absurd.
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever heard of the "WOLD NEWTON" Universe? Its a concept
>
> originated by the sci-fi author Philip Jose Farmer. The basic
> concept is that all the
> great characters from literature, such as Sherlock Holmes,
> Tarzan, Captain
> Nemo, Dr. Frankenstein, the Shadow, etc all live in the same
> universe and have
> very stange and interesting interconnections.
>
> I was mulling over an idea to take this concept a bit further by
> tying
> toghether a buffet of post-apaolyptic characters and concepts...
> POTA, Kamandi,
> Omega Man, 1984, Rollerball, Deathlock, you name it.
>
> For anyone who's interested in the WOLD NEWTON universe, here is a
> link to
> their portal.
>
> _http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Pulp.htm_
> (http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Pulp.htm)
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Hill <shop@...>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:56 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Kirby book.

>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Well I did get a bit of good news about POTA today and I'm not
> talking> about that upcoming sound production coming out in March
> which was in
> > the other message.
> >
> > I'm talking about this:
> > http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9592
> >
> > Perhaps we'll get a little more information about the input POTA
had
> > over the Kamandi series.
> >
> > Dario
>
>
> Hi Dario, Did you hear that Marvel's collecting Kirby's Devil
> Dinosaur,all 9 issues , large format hard cover for $30 US, should
> be out early
> August.
>
> This was Marvel's response when they heard Kamandi had been
> optioned for
> a Saturday morning cartoon, It was felt that they should have some
> thingthat would compete and asked Kirby to come up with a concept
> which they
> might be able to sell to the networks.
>
> Not Kirby's best stuff but...
>
> Best, Graham.
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/16/2007 1:34:34 AM Central Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > It's hard to guess what Serling and Wilson wanted us to think
about the
> > rest of the country/planet.
> >
> *** I don't dig people trying to reinvent the wheel, especially
when their
> reinvented wheel turns out to be square...
>
> Anyway, as far as what you said here: You have to remember that the
script
> they wrote was based on the premise of the source novel... And in
that source
> novel, one of the premises was that apes were in control all over
the planet
> Soror, having "inherited" it from humanity...
>
> While the planet in APES is Earth, it's pretty safe to assume that
they were
> also basing the PLANET script on the idea that apes dominate the
planet, as in
> the source book...
>
> Wilson/Serling (or even Boulle) never intended anything like
pockets of
> humans living in domed cities... They intended an ape dominated
planet...
>

>
> On Feb 16, 2007, at 11:09 am, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 2/16/2007 11:02:21 AM Central Standard Time,
> > neilmoxham@... writes:
> >
> >
> >> But they never intended there to be a lost mutant civilisation
> >> either, which MOST of us accept now, so maybe there's some room
> >> for other stuff going on elsewhere.
> >
> >
> > *** True, there may be some room for other ideas, but crossing
> > franchises is NEVER the right way to do it...
>
> Beneath is about mutants on a world dominated by intelligent apes.

> doesn't completely ignore the apes like the unrelated futuristic
> movies do.
>
> Anthony
>

>
> -- Cool. The only Devil Dinosaur I have is issue #1 and like you say not
> his best but it's still the King!
>
> Neil
>

On 2/16/07, Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:

I somehow missed that!  Ty?

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of atragon1@...
Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 5:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes

 

By the way, I dont recall any objections when the R EVOLUTION series casually mentions that the events from the film ROLLERBALL co-existed at the same time as the events of CONQEST.

Bill

--

>Posted by: "DONNA SPIRES" dspires501@... dspires501
>I can't help it if I have a wild imagination. I can crossover
>POTA with Farscape, with Zaius trying to get data to create
>wormholes or for the truly bizarre, Forever Knight (If you guys
>want Vampires as part of the canon) with Urko talking with
>LaCroix, both being generals. I believe POTA can be crossedover
>with Beauty and the Beast (Underground dwellers). I have more.
>If POTA can be crossedover with Alien Nation in a Comic, anything
>is possible.

> Do our American friends know what the implications
> are of being given a red
> card? :-)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Neil T Foster
> Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 12:41 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the
> Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Haristas@...
> Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 10:24 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of
> the Apes
>
> There was only one kind of pussy on the planet of
> the apes, and men... you
> know what that was!
>
> .
>
> Web Bug from MailScannerWebBug
>
>
>
>
> --
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> We did a Rollerball shout out?
>
> What particular mention for Rollerball did we throw in? (A movie I
quite
> enjoyed, by the way, the original Norman Jewison/James Caan
version, of
> course). I honestly don't remember doing it on purpose, and I
don't think
> Joe did...
>
> Remind me.
>
> Ty
>
> On 2/16/07, Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
> >
> > I somehow missed that! Ty?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]
*On Behalf
> > Of *atragon1@...
> > *Sent:* Friday, 16 February 2007 5:10 AM
> > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of
the Apes
> >
> >
> >
> > By the way, I dont recall any objections when the REVOLUTION
series
> > casually mentions that the events from the film ROLLERBALL co-
existed at the
> > same time as the events of CONQEST.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2007 9:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Compatability

Neil – have you finished “SPIDERAPE vs BATAPE” yet?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2007 9:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Revolution Rollerball! Calling Ty.....

And who says in this alternate universe where apes talk, there can't
be a rollerdome?

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of DONNA SPIRES
> Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2007 10:39 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Compatability
>
>
> I love Avenger Ape. Are we going to find out his alter ego?
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> From: "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...>
> Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Compatability
> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:30:27 +1000
>
> -- Is that the triple crossover comic with Avenger Ape?
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Michael Whitty
> Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2007 9:36 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Compatability
>
>
> Neil - have you finished "SPIDERAPE vs BATAPE" yet?
> ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/14/2007 8:24:55 PM Central Standard Time,
hoknescards@... writes:
Actually I think thats a pretty cool theory

*** And I'm thinking that it may also set very well with patrick, as he
is also a "Logan's Run" fanatic...

I'm sure he could tie all of these ideas into a nice little bundle if
you ask him to...
=================================================================

*** I've been busy the last week, so I haven't seen any of these posts
regarding a POTA/LOGAN'S RUN crossover.

I must say, though, that Anthony's post rules it out: the Old Man has
all those cats... and the Pet Plague killed off the dogs and cats prior
to CONQUEST. That alone makes the two concepts unmeshable, though I can
see why some might dig the idea of combining two post-apocalyptic
scenarios under one umbrella.

It is true, too, that in addition to being a POTA fanatic, I'm also a
LOGAN'S RUN fanatic. There are a couple Yahoo LOGAN'S RUN groups I've
posted at, concerning one of my other on-going projects -- a fanfic
novelization of the MGM film version of LOGAN'S RUN with all sorts of
backstory stuff delved into. I won't go into all of it here, but my
scenario for LR involves no man-made Catastrophe but, instead, the
hypernova of Betelgeuse in 2072 (some 202 years before the events of
the movie in "Year of the City 2274") -- with the City being built as a
latter-day Noah's Ark-type of thing, able to withstand the devastation
of the Gamma Ray Burster explosion that kills off virtually all life on
the planet. During the two centuries when the "chosen" people safe in
the City have forgotten about the Outside world, automated machinery
built as part of the City goes about re-creating the planet's ozone
layer (converting seawater into ozone and then pumping it up into the
atmosphere) and re-creating the flora and fauna of the planet by taking
the genome data gathered prior to the Catastrophe and creating embryos
in those Breeder machines which -- inside the City -- are used for the
gestation of human pre-borns. The Old Man at Washington D.C. (and his
cats) are the last survivors of the last President of the U.S. -- whom
he refers to as "family" in the film -- who were able to live in those
Cold War-era bunkers in D.C., which were designed to withstand a
Nuclear War.

In POTA, it is a man-waged Nuclear War that ends our world and sets the
stage for the rise of Apedom (etc), but in LOGAN'S RUN there is no
possibility -- I think -- for a Nuke War having happened. In the ruins
of Washington D.C., Logan and Jessica find the Old Man living in the
Capitol Building's old Senate Chamber... and strewn about the place are
all sorts of old paintings and books. Flammable materials, in other
words. The temperature within a few miles of Ground Zero of a nuke
blast is many thousands of degrees, and all such flammable materials
would've been burnt up pronto, along with all those wooden houses
Logan, Jessica and the Old Man pass by on their journey back to the
City. There's absolutely no way I'll ever be convinced that the POTA
nuke war didn't target the capitol of the U.S.A. -- no way, Jose! And
not with merely ONE nuke -- probably dozens of the many thousands of
nukes that America's enemies would've had at their disposal.

Though the nature of the "Catastrophe" in the LOGAN'S RUN backstory
wasn't exactly specified -- and my own scenario, that of a Betelgeuse
hypernova, is consistent with the film's details -- it CANNOT have been
a Nuclear War, in my opinion. And that makes it inconsistent with the
situation in the POTA film series.

Patrick

>
> In a message dated 2/16/2007 4:35:54 AM Central Standard Time,

> writes:
>
>
> > Highlander? Scooby Doo?
>
> *** Yes T, Highlander and Scooby Doo...
>

>
>
> In a message dated 2/16/2007 11:20:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> abmac@... writes:
>
> *** True, there may be some room for other ideas, but crossing

> NEVER the right way to do it...
>
>
>
> How'd that Predator Vs Alien thing go?
>

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Monday, 19 February 2007 12:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Compatability

In a message dated 2/17/2007 5:36:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

Don’t forget a lot of people find KISS and POTA compatible (I do recall buying Bubble Gum Cards of both from the same counter at the local store!).

 

And that T-Shirt

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:35 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2496

Any show set before the 80s would have no point in crossing over
since the apes were just normal apes at that point, and any show set
after the 90s wouldn't be crossover-able since apes would be
controlling the world and nuclear war would have destroyed
everything. Bottom line -- imagination or not, there is no universe
whose premise is compatible with POTA because talking apes are not
part of the other universes.

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, 19 February 2007 8:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes

In a message dated 2/16/2007 7:07:24 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

How'd that Predator Vs Alien thing go?

*** Don't know, don't care... I never seen it

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2007 2:11 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Revolution Rollerball! Calling Ty.....

The reference I insisted on including was the line about the President living up Lincoln's nose (a reference to the Marvel POTA comics), in issue #5, but the Rollerball ref was obviously lobbed in there by Mr. O'Brien.  It's a nice toss away gag.  We nearly called the SPCA inspector "Ms. Khan" in the Armando story from Revolution #3, just to mention Montelban's most famous film villain, but decided against it. 

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