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Group: potadg Message: 43587 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43588 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43589 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43590 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43591 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43592 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43593 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
Group: potadg Message: 43594 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
Group: potadg Message: 43595 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
Group: potadg Message: 43596 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43597 From: gp3085 Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
Group: potadg Message: 43598 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43599 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43600 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43601 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43602 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43603 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
Group: potadg Message: 43604 From: gp3085 Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
Group: potadg Message: 43605 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43606 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43607 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43608 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43609 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43610 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43611 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43612 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43613 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43614 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43615 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43616 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43617 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43618 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43619 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43620 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43621 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43622 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43623 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43624 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43625 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43626 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43627 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43628 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
Group: potadg Message: 43629 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43630 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43631 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43632 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43633 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43634 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43635 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43636 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43637 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43638 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43639 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43640 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43641 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43642 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
Group: potadg Message: 43643 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43644 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43645 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43646 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43647 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Chimps Make Weapons to Hunt, Scientists Say
Group: potadg Message: 43648 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43649 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Chimps Make Weapons to Hunt, Scientists Say
Group: potadg Message: 43650 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43651 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43652 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43653 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43654 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43655 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43656 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43657 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43658 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Chimps Make Weapons to Hunt, Scientists Say
Group: potadg Message: 43659 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43660 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43661 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43662 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43663 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43664 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43665 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43666 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43667 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43668 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43669 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43670 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43671 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43672 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 43673 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43674 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: More storage space!
Group: potadg Message: 43675 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43676 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/23/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43677 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/24/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43678 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/24/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43679 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/24/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43680 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/24/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43681 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/24/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43682 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/24/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43683 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/25/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43684 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/25/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43685 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/25/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
Group: potadg Message: 43686 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/25/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama



Group: potadg Message: 43587 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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would love to! I have been a fan of POTA sice I was a kid, racing my bike home to catch ape week after school and the TV series and the animated series...Well anything POTA-LOL! Anyway, I had gotten into writing/mixing/ and voice acting for Darker Projects, A wonderful Audio Drama group I might add, and me and my partners decided to do some stuff that didn't fit the DP cannon. So we are starting BrokenSea audio. All free downloads of our shows with the Best Quality Productions and Fine acting and a whole lot of love and fun to bbot!
 
And well I felt the urge to do POTA. But I wanted to to add a bit here and there and not just do a straight adaption, parts from Boulles book mixed with the actual screenplay (the astronauts at the begininng of the book finally get to be a part of the story for instance) from the movies, and added a few bits I thought would fit and expand on the movies I so love and adore.
 
I hope that helps! If you haven't listened to the trailer for the show yet, it is at our BrokenSea yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BrokenSea/  in the files section as well as Hunter's wonderful site. We have recieved so much support for this-I cannot thank you all enough for your interest. The website and POTA Audio Drama debut Mar 1, along with a few other shows we are doing, and have many more in the works.
 
Aagin thank you for the invite and the interest. I am trully humbled.

 
On 2/21/07, Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:

Hey there Bill, welcome to the group!

 

Can you tell us a bit about the forthcoming Audio Drama?


Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hollweg
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 2:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] New member!

 

Hidee ho! Pround new member of the group! Go Ape! I am the writer/producer of the BrokenSea Audio Drama Planet of the Apes set to debut on Mar 1, and all these wonderful group have embraced us and our devotion to all things POTA! Thank you! Can't wait to discuss!

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
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Group: potadg Message: 43588 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hassline, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.

On 2/21/07, Neil T Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:

Hi Bill (and Paul) great to have you both here! Can't wait to find out more about your upcoming Audio Drama, I've listened to the preview teaser and it sounds very intriguing.
 
One thing I am interested to find out is, in your advert, it states it features additional scenes and I was just wondering if you could tell us a bit about them if it doesn't give anything away?
 
Cheers,
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hollweg
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 1:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] New member!

Hidee ho! Pround new member of the group! Go Ape! I am the writer/producer of the BrokenSea Audio Drama Planet of the Apes set to debut on Mar 1, and all these wonderful group have embraced us and our devotion to all things POTA! Thank you! Can't wait to discuss!

.




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 43589 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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Sounds interesting.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hollweg
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 7:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New member!

 

would love to! I have been a fan of POTA sice I was a kid, racing my bike home to catch ape week after school and the TV series and the animated series...Well anything POTA-LOL! Anyway, I had gotten into writing/mixing/ and voice acting for Darker Projects, A wonderful Audio Drama group I might add, and me and my partners decided to do some stuff that didn't fit the DP cannon. So we are starting BrokenSea audio. All free downloads of our shows with the Best Quality Productions and Fine acting and a whole lot of love and fun to bbot!

 

And well I felt the urge to do POTA. But I wanted to to add a bit here and there and not just do a straight adaption, parts from Boulles book mixed with the actual screenplay (the astronauts at the begininng of the book finally get to be a part of the story for instance) from the movies, and added a few bits I thought would fit and expand on the movies I so love and adore.

 

I hope that helps! If you haven't listened to the trailer for the show yet, it is at our BrokenSea yahoo group

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/BrokenSea/ in the files section as well as Hunter's wonderful site. We have recieved so much support for this-I cannot thank you all enough for your interest. The website and POTA Audio Drama debut Mar 1, along with a few other shows we are doing, and have many more in the works.

 

Aagin thank you for the invite and the interest. I am trully humbled.

 

On 2/21/07, Michael Whitty <whitty@cyberone. com.au> wrote:

Hey there Bill, welcome to the group!

 

Can you tell us a bit about the forthcoming Audio Drama?


Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bill Hollweg
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 2:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] New member!

 

Hidee ho! Pround new member of the group! Go Ape! I am the writer/producer of the BrokenSea Audio Drama Planet of the Apes set to debut on Mar 1, and all these wonderful group have embraced us and our devotion to all things POTA! Thank you! Can't wait to discuss!

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea. com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlake films.co. uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting


--




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea. com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlake films.co. uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting


--
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Group: potadg Message: 43590 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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Thank you! I am hoping it will add a bit without totally throwing it out of whack as I feel, and you are free to disagree, Tim Burton did.

On 2/21/07, Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:

Sounds interesting.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hollweg
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 7:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New member!

 

would love to! I have been a fan of POTA sice I was a kid, racing my bike home to catch ape week after school and the TV series and the animated series...Well anything POTA-LOL! Anyway, I had gotten into writing/mixing/ and voice acting for Darker Projects, A wonderful Audio Drama group I might add, and me and my partners decided to do some stuff that didn't fit the DP cannon. So we are starting BrokenSea audio. All free downloads of our shows with the Best Quality Productions and Fine acting and a whole lot of love and fun to bbot!

 

And well I felt the urge to do POTA. But I wanted to to add a bit here and there and not just do a straight adaption, parts from Boulles book mixed with the actual screenplay (the astronauts at the begininng of the book finally get to be a part of the story for instance) from the movies, and added a few bits I thought would fit and expand on the movies I so love and adore.

 

I hope that helps! If you haven't listened to the trailer for the show yet, it is at our BrokenSea yahoo group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BrokenSea/  in the files section as well as Hunter's wonderful site. We have recieved so much support for this-I cannot thank you all enough for your interest. The website and POTA Audio Drama debut Mar 1, along with a few other shows we are doing, and have many more in the works.

 

Aagin thank you for the invite and the interest. I am trully humbled.

 

On 2/21/07, Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:

Hey there Bill, welcome to the group!

 

Can you tell us a bit about the forthcoming Audio Drama?


Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hollweg
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 2:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] New member!

 

Hidee ho! Pround new member of the group! Go Ape! I am the writer/producer of the BrokenSea Audio Drama Planet of the Apes set to debut on Mar 1, and all these wonderful group have embraced us and our devotion to all things POTA! Thank you! Can't wait to discuss!

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
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Group: potadg Message: 43591 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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-- Sure does! Bill will this be released as one whole thing or is it going to be broken down into separate parts and if so how many will there be?
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 7:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New member!

Sounds interesting.

.

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Group: potadg Message: 43592 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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Seperate parts. Each episode will run between 15-20minutes as the Ape flies-LOL! Mainly because we each have 3-4 projects we are writing and producing/writing and getting our wonderful casts to preform. If you or anyone in the group is interested in voice acting or anything we do, join our brokensea Yahoo group, cast calls are going out all the time. At the moment I am mixing episode #3 (will be done by friday) and just wrote ep#7. So it may take a bit, but I think it will allow me to explore the apes world and give it the attention it deserves. At some Point I may mix them into larger episodes, but at the moment I am just having a ball getting everything in order.

On 2/21/07, Neil T Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:

-- Sure does! Bill will this be released as one whole thing or is it going to be broken down into separate parts and if so how many will there be?
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 7:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New member!

Sounds interesting.

.




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea.com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 43593 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Here, here!
>
> Having done a little scanning on my own, I know that it takes a lot of
> work and time to scan in entire comics. To have done it for the entire
> UK run of 123 issues is just incredible and I want to take the
> occasion of this milestone to give a big round of thanks to Greg and
> Hunter. I'm not sure how easy those issues are to come by in the UK,
> but even with ebay and other sources, collecting all of them over here
> would have been a challenge.
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> Dario
>
Got to agree  Dario, Gregs done a great job, all that scanning would have driven me nuts,  so thanks Greg

Best wishes Graham.

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Group: potadg Message: 43594 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
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I heartily agree! A tremendous amount of work!! Thanks
guys!

Now these next issues...Mighty World of Marvel.....do
they have Apes on the covers?

Tim

--- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

> Here, here!
>
> Having done a little scanning on my own, I know that
> it takes a lot of
> work and time to scan in entire comics. To have done
> it for the entire
> UK run of 123 issues is just incredible and I want
> to take the
> occasion of this milestone to give a big round of
> thanks to Greg and
> Hunter. I'm not sure how easy those issues are to
> come by in the UK,
> but even with ebay and other sources, collecting all
> of them over here
> would have been a challenge.
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:32 pm
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 123
>
> > And thanks to you as well Greg!
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Greg Plonowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2007 2:22 PM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com;
> friends & fugitives
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 123
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The final issue of Marvel UK's Planet of the Apes
> comic series is now
> > available to download from Hunter's site. It's an
> extra-long
> > finale, as
> > the Beneath adaptation is wrapped up. Next week
> the Battle adaptation
> > continues in Mighty World of Marvel issue 231.
> >
> > This issue also contains a letter column and a
> Bullpen Bulletins
> page.
> >
> > Also available this week is part 3 of the BBC
> Radio 4 Book at Bedtime
> > adaptation of Pierre Boule's novel. Thanks to Neil
> Moxham and David
> > Bryan for providing the files. Also thanks to Neil
> Foster for
> > supplyingCD case art. Part 4 will be available
> next week.
> >
> > <https://pota.goatley.com/>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
> > .
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
> s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> > sgId=43575/stime=1172031724/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
> >
> >
> >
>




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Group: potadg Message: 43595 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
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Yes we are!

Donna


>From: "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...>
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: RE: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 123
>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 06:49:12 +1000
>
>-- Having scanned a few comics myself I completely agree with you here
>Dario, I don't know how Greg has the patience to do it, the guy is
>incredible! And as always Hunter is more than happy to host anything
>'Ape worthy' on his great site. We really are very lucky fans.
>
>Neil
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
>Of Dario Sciola
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2007 11:58 PM
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 123
>
>
>
>Having done a little scanning on my own, I know that it takes a lot of
>work and time to scan in entire comics. To have done it for the entire
>UK run of 123 issues is just incredible and I want to take the
>occasion of this milestone to give a big round of thanks to Greg and
>Hunter.
>
>.
>
><http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
>sgId=43579/stime=1172066441/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
>__,_._,_
>
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Group: potadg Message: 43596 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/21/2007
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Hi all,

I'll echo Bill's enthusiasm.  He is passionate about POTA and the story he has put together for this audio drama is really fantastic.

What I like best are the way he is expanding on things like Dr Milo's investigation into the crashed ship... and other things.


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Group: potadg Message: 43597 From: gp3085 Date: 2/21/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
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Yes, they have Apes on the covers, except for one issue.

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I heartily agree! A tremendous amount of work!! Thanks
> guys!
>
> Now these next issues...Mighty World of Marvel.....do
> they have Apes on the covers?
>
> Tim
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Group: potadg Message: 43598 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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.htmlI am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@... writes:


Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.


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Group: potadg Message: 43599 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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.html *** Do you mean Phyllis and Jinn? That's just not right, not right at all...

The PLANET film and the Boulle book really are separate from each other, and as far as intertwining the two, it shouldn't be done...

Planet of the Apes is Earth, Monkey Planet is the planet Soror... They're not even the same planet, let alone the same universe!



In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:00:16 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@... writes:


parts from Boulle's book mixed with the actual screenplay (the astronauts at the beginning of the book finally get to be a part of the story for instance)


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Group: potadg Message: 43600 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: LOGAN's RUN...on the Planet of the Apes
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In a message dated 2/20/2007 11:32:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- Damn, they do a sequel for that rubbish and we still wait for another POTA movie!
 
You know the Ol' Hollywood Rule!
Sequels to crap make money . . .
Sequels to Art get made into Crap!
We can only hope for them to come full
circle, and make a sequel to that crap
remake into Art.  Don't hold your breath
but be prepared to hold your nose!




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Group: potadg Message: 43601 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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Well of course there will always be different views and opinions about the finished product.

The best thing I can suggest is don't count your apes before they've hatched.

On 22/02/07, mlccougar@... < mlccougar@...> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@gmail.com writes:


Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.




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Group: potadg Message: 43602 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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Paul – you are talking to a guy who decided he hated Burton ’s POTA without ever watching it!  Sorry Mike – you were looking vulnerable and I just had to take a swing dude!  J

Me – I watched it and hated it, the decided 4 times I must have seen wrong so re-watched it and hated it more every time!

It’s not fair – you SHOULD have had to WATCH it Mike!

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mannering
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 7:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

 

Well of course there will always be different views and opinions about the finished product.

The best thing I can suggest is don't count your apes before they've hatched.

On 22/02/07, mlccougar@aol. com <mlccougar@aol. com> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@gmail.com writes:

Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.





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Group: potadg Message: 43603 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
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thanks Greg.....and how many ape-related issues are
there?

Tim


--- gp3085 <urko3085@...> wrote:

> Yes, they have Apes on the covers, except for one
> issue.
>
> Greg
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> >
> > I heartily agree! A tremendous amount of work!!
> Thanks
> > guys!
> >
> > Now these next issues...Mighty World of
> Marvel.....do
> > they have Apes on the covers?
> >
> > Tim
>
>
>




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Group: potadg Message: 43604 From: gp3085 Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: Marvel UK issue 123
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There are 16 issues of Mighty World of Marvel that have Apes content.

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> thanks Greg.....and how many ape-related issues are
> there?
>
> Tim
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Group: potadg Message: 43605 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member!
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One could say that, and I appreciate that you have a strong view my friend. But I think if you give it a listen it will make sense in the end. I didn't just want to "APE" either the book or the original POTA. Bear with me, I am trying to make something new and different but still be true to 2 wonderful adventures. All I ask is that you give it a fair shake and if it still doesn't work for you, point out where and how after giving it a listen my friend. I can take all the knocks based on that amigo and I will answer and stand before the gathered Ape Fans and take whatever you have good and bad. As for Soror,
 
I thought it (Soror) was the earth, hence the shock when Ulysses returns with Nova in the spaceship and finds apes where he thought his world should be.and the shock that Jinn and Phyllis are apes. I could be wrong and have been many times...LOL!
 
But thank you for your comments my friend!
 
 
On 2/22/07, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote:

*** Do you mean Phyllis and Jinn? That's just not right, not right at all...

The PLANET film and the Boulle book really are separate from each other, and as far as intertwining the two, it shouldn't be done...

Planet of the Apes is Earth, Monkey Planet is the planet Soror... They're not even the same planet, let alone the same universe!



In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:00:16 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:


parts from Boulle's book mixed with the actual screenplay (the astronauts at the beginning of the book finally get to be a part of the story for instance)




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Group: potadg Message: 43606 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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My frind, I only metioned a couple of tidbits. I didn't want to put the whole script out there my friend. There are a lot of things I am trying to cover, I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:


Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.




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Group: potadg Message: 43607 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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My friend, the book and the movies are incompatible. Free rubbish is still rubbish, my friend.

On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:45 am, Bill Hollweg wrote:

My frind, I only metioned a couple of tidbits. I didn't want to put the whole script out there my friend. There are a lot of things I am trying to cover, I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@aol.com <mlccougar@aol.com> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:


Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.


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Group: potadg Message: 43608 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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With all due respect. Feel free to produce your own. I will listen with an open mind. But to bash people in such a manner, for trying to make something to listen to to take their mind off their day seems somewhat harsh.

On 2/22/07, Anthony B. McElveen < abmac@...> wrote:

My friend, the book and the movies are incompatible. Free rubbish is still rubbish, my friend.

On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:45 am, Bill Hollweg wrote:

My frind, I only metioned a couple of tidbits. I didn't want to put the whole script out there my friend. There are a lot of things I am trying to cover, I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@aol.com < mlccougar@aol.com> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:


Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.





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Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
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Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
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Group: potadg Message: 43609 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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.htmlWhitty,

What are you bringing the pota2001 abomination into this for?!?

As far as my refusal to watch it, I guess I am very close to being a purist, and I HATED the way that FOX was disowning the original PLANET and the sequels... More or less acting like pota2001 was now PLANET, and the old ones should be gone and forgotten... That alone is reason enough to refuse it!

Anyway, I was commenting on his PLANET adaption, not pota2001...



In a message dated 2/22/2007 5:08:00 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


Paul – you are talking to a guy who decided he hated Burton's POTA without ever watching it!  Sorry Mike – you were looking vulnerable and I just had to take a swing dude!  
J

Me – I watched it and hated it, the decided 4 times I must have seen wrong so re-watched it and hated it more every time!

It's not fair – you SHOULD have had to WATCH it Mike!


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Group: potadg Message: 43610 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
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.htmlSoror was indeed a different planet...

At the end when Ulysse and Nova/child leave Soror, they are returning to Earth... When they arrive home in Paris, Ulysse discovers that Earth is now controlled by apes as well... (While they were away, apes came to be in control, just as they had on Soror... It was probably a universal phenomenon...)



In a message dated 2/22/2007 9:42:54 AM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@... writes:


I thought it (Soror) was the earth, hence the shock when Ulysses returns with Nova in the spaceship and finds apes where he thought his world should be.and the shock that Jinn and Phyllis are apes. I could be wrong and have been many times...


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Group: potadg Message: 43611 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 2/22/2007
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You say "open mind" like it's a good thing. My mind is closed insofar as I have certain expectations from any work of fiction involving characters and situations based on Planet of the Apes. You have already made it clear that your audio drama is not going to meet those expectations. Therefore, I don't need to listen to it to know I won't like it.

Entertainment should be more than just a way to kill a day. Stabbing myself in the thigh with a sharp pencil would take my mind off my day, but I wouldn't enjoy it very much. I try to avoid pain and bad fan fiction crossovers.

On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:18 am, Bill Hollweg wrote:

With all due respect. Feel free to produce your own. I will listen with an open mind. But to bash people in such a manner, for trying to make something to listen to to take their mind off their day seems somewhat harsh.

On 2/22/07, Anthony B. McElveen <abmac@...> wrote:

My friend, the book and the movies are incompatible. Free rubbish is still rubbish, my friend.

On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:45 am, Bill Hollweg wrote:

My frind, I only metioned a couple of tidbits. I didn't want to put the whole script out there my friend. There are a lot of things I am trying to cover, I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@aol.com < mlccougar@aol.com> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:


Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.


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Group: potadg Message: 43612 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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.html *** Oh, I am not knocking your attempt at doing this... I am all for fans doing things of this nature... (Look at Whiity/Neil/Dave Ballard collaboration of "BEWARE THE BEAST" for something really good that can be created...)

I just do not like the idea of trying to cross the film and the novel... They DO NOT relate...



In a message dated 2/22/2007 9:48:59 AM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@... writes:


am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.


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Well, you have your opinion. I disagree. And will not get into a tedious flame war. Thank you for expressing your reservations.

On 2/22/07, Anthony B. McElveen < abmac@...> wrote:

You say "open mind" like it's a good thing. My mind is closed insofar as I have certain expectations from any work of fiction involving characters and situations based on Planet of the Apes. You have already made it clear that your audio drama is not going to meet those expectations. Therefore, I don't need to listen to it to know I won't like it.

 
Entertainment should be more than just a way to kill a day.  Stabbing myself in the thigh with a sharp pencil would take my mind off my day, but I wouldn't enjoy it very much. I try to avoid pain and bad fan fiction crossovers. 

On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:18 am, Bill Hollweg wrote:

With all due respect. Feel free to produce your own. I will listen with an open mind. But to bash people in such a manner, for trying to make something to listen to to take their mind off their day seems somewhat harsh.

On 2/22/07, Anthony B. McElveen < abmac@...> wrote:

My friend, the book and the movies are incompatible. Free rubbish is still rubbish, my friend.

On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:45 am, Bill Hollweg wrote:

My frind, I only metioned a couple of tidbits. I didn't want to put the whole script out there my friend. There are a lot of things I am trying to cover, I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@aol. com < mlccougar@aol. com> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:


Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.





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I stand corrected, but that just sounds weird. Like a bad plot device. Not disparaging your view amigo.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote:

Soror was indeed a different planet...

At the end when Ulysse and Nova/child leave Soror, they are returning to Earth... When they arrive home in Paris, Ulysse discovers that Earth is now controlled by apes as well... (While they were away, apes came to be in control, just as they had on Soror... It was probably a universal phenomenon...)



In a message dated 2/22/2007 9:42:54 AM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@gmail.com writes:


I thought it (Soror) was the earth, hence the shock when Ulysses returns with Nova in the spaceship and finds apes where he thought his world should be.and the shock that Jinn and Phyllis are apes. I could be wrong and have been many times...




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Group: potadg Message: 43615 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/22/2007
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I disagree, but that's cool amigo. I do thank you for expressing this. Feel free to listen or not my friend.
 

 
On 2/22/07, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote:

*** Oh, I am not knocking your attempt at doing this... I am all for fans doing things of this nature... (Look at Whiity/Neil/Dave Ballard collaboration of "BEWARE THE BEAST" for something really good that can be created...)

I just do not like the idea of trying to cross the film and the novel... They DO NOT relate...



In a message dated 2/22/2007 9:48:59 AM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:


am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.




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And that is genuinely appreciated.

 

Guys and gals, let’s keep the comment constructive please.

 

Michael

 

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Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

 

My frind, I only metioned a couple of tidbits. I didn't want to put the whole script out there my friend. There are a lot of things I am trying to cover, I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@aol. com <mlccougar@aol. com> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:

Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.





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Thank you again.

On 2/22/07, Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:

And that is genuinely appreciated.

 

Guys and gals, let's keep the comment constructive please.

 

Michael

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hollweg
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

 

My frind, I only metioned a couple of tidbits. I didn't want to put the whole script out there my friend. There are a lot of things I am trying to cover, I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a time consuming hobby that we do out of love.

On 2/22/07, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote:

I am cautiously approaching this idea...

While I do not mind the idea of fleshing out the original PLANET, I do not really dig the idea of bringing non-PLANET characters into it... And I know I do not like the idea of trying to "meld" the movie and the book together... They really are two SEPARATE entities, and should be treated as such...

When I read where you were adding "additional scenes," I was hoping you'd have things that are directly related to the film itself... Things that would have been much better fodder would have been Landon's encounter with the apes and his subsequent lobotomy, or even things as simple as Zira recruiting Lucius to help in the escape/rescue of Taylor... Those tie-in directly with the Wilson/Serling script, and that's what I was hoping we'd get... Apparently I was wrong...

I will keep an open mind here, but it's not shaping up to be what I was expecting...





In a message dated 2/21/2007 3:13:40 PM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:

Hmmmm... Without giving too much away, I am working on more background on Dr Milo, Dr Hasslein, and a few other bits that I thought would be interesting to have a go at. As well as finding a way to meld the book and the screenplays together if that makes sense.





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-- Well that's one topic that always brings out strong views from the fans, the whole how did they get the spaceship working again thing, so that should be interesting to say the least!
 
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Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 1:22 PM
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What I like best are the way he is expanding on things like Dr Milo's investigation into the crashed ship... and other things.

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-- I think we all should.
 
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Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 5:10 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

I will keep an open mind here

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    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
    Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 6:06 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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    You know the Ol' Hollywood Rule!
    Sequels to crap make money . . .
    Sequels to Art get made into Crap!
    We can only hope for them to come full
    circle, and make a sequel to that crap
    remake into Art.  Don't hold your breath
    but be prepared to hold your nose!
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    Thank you- I hope so!

    On 2/22/07, Neil T Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:

    -- Well that's one topic that always brings out strong views from the fans, the whole how did they get the spaceship working again thing, so that should be interesting to say the least!
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 1:22 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New member!

    What I like best are the way he is expanding on things like Dr Milo's investigation into the crashed ship... and other things.

    .




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    -- Well I for one am going to give it a chance and not rubbish something that I haven't even heard yet. I can never understand that attitude of some of us Apes fans. I believe we should all at least actually read, watch or listen to something before we pass judgement on it, especially before putting it down.
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:14 AM
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    Free rubbish is still rubbish, my friend.
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    Group: potadg Message: 43623 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/22/2007
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
    , I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the
    > medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven
    > Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a
    time
    > consuming hobby that we do out of love.
    >


    It is appreciated in a lot of places Bill, they might not be the most
    vocal element but...
    (I haven't posted much in the last week for a few reasons but I'm sure
    a couple of members can guess why)
    I look forward to hearing it and you know what ? if the story line
    doesn't go in the direction I expect, so what, I'll get over it I'm an
    adult, it'll be a fun ride. Just because some one has a different take
    on a story line doesn't mean the work in itself isn't good or worthy,
    It's just different.
    I know we're all "grumpy old men" but I tend to think being open minded
    is a good thing until proved otherwise.
    So best of luck Bill !!!
    Bye, Graham.
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    I was not that serious Mike.

     

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    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 3:38 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New member and his PLANET audio drama

     

    Whitty,

    What are you bringing the pota2001 abomination into this for?!?

    As far as my refusal to watch it, I guess I am very close to being a purist, and I HATED the way that FOX was disowning the original PLANET and the sequels... More or less acting like pota2001 was now PLANET, and the old ones should be gone and forgotten... That alone is reason enough to refuse it!

    Anyway, I was commenting on his PLANET adaption, not pota2001...



    In a message dated 2/22/2007 5:08:00 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:



    Paul – you are talking to a guy who decided he hated Burton’s POTA without ever watching it!  Sorry Mike – you were looking vulnerable and I just had to take a swing dude!  

    J

    Me – I watched it and hated it, the decided 4 times I must have seen wrong so re-watched it and hated it more every time!

    It’s not fair – you SHOULD have had to WATCH it Mike!




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    I’m with you Graham.

     

    If you EXPERIENCE it, you can put it down to an EXPERIENCE.

     

    Michael

     

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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 10:51 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

     

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@ ...> wrote:
    , I am a fan first, and also we are doing this out of a love of the

    > medium and POTA, for free. None of us get paid nor do we expect Steven
    > Speilburg or George Lucas to call us up and give us a job. This is a
    time
    > consuming hobby that we do out of love.
    >

    It is appreciated in a lot of places Bill, they might not be the most
    vocal element but...
    (I haven't posted much in the last week for a few reasons but I'm sure
    a couple of members can guess why)
    I look forward to hearing it and you know what ? if the story line
    doesn't go in the direction I expect, so what, I'll get over it I'm an
    adult, it'll be a fun ride. Just because some one has a different take
    on a story line doesn't mean the work in itself isn't good or worthy,
    It's just different.
    I know we're all "grumpy old men" but I tend to think being open minded
    is a good thing until proved otherwise.
    So best of luck Bill !!!
    Bye, Graham.


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    .html*** Thank you!


    In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:15:46 AM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:



    My friend, the book and the movies are incompatible. Free rubbish is still rubbish, my friend.


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    .html*** I am with you 100% on this...

    Let's just hope that they haven't gone so far as to make Taylor a jovial jokester full of love, hope, and optimism...



    In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:46:22 AM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:



    You say "open mind" like it's a good thing. My mind is closed insofar as I have certain expectations from any work of fiction involving characters and situations based on Planet of the Apes.


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    .html*** Well, I have to say that it is not an opinion...

    Any reader of the Boulle book should be able to get that much...


    In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:51:44 AM Central Standard Time, billhollweg@... writes:


    I stand corrected, but that just sounds weird. Like a bad plot device. Not disparaging your view amigo.


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    This is completely different version of Planet and I think that this is
    something that could jump start the series. I will give it a chance.

    Kevin

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    Sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 4:41 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama



    -- Well I for one am going to give it a chance and not rubbish
    something that I haven't even heard yet. I can never understand that
    attitude of some of us Apes fans. I believe we should all at least
    actually read, watch or listen to something before we pass judgement on
    it, especially before putting it down.

    Neil


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    Of Anthony B. McElveen
    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:14 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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    Free rubbish is still rubbish, my friend.

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    Group: potadg Message: 43630 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/22/2007
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    .html *** Does that apply to everything that exists, or just APES?

    Seriously, there are tons of people that will not give something a chance based on preconceived notions... Music, movies, TV, and the Arts... People have their ideas of what they will like or not even if they never even sampled other areas... Why should APES be any different?

    I for one know I wouldn't even give something like crossing APES and ALIEN a chance at all... Nor would I read a story where Urko is kind to a puppy or poems about him...


    In a message dated 2/22/2007 3:49:39 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:


    I believe we should all at least actually read, watch or listen to something before we pass judgement on it, especially before putting it down.


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    .html *** One of the biggest things that is turning me off to this project is that by the "ad" for it on Hunter's sight... In my eyes it is being portrayed as an audio telling of the story of PLANET, which I certainly wouldn't be against (nor would I be against a "canonical" BOOK for the PLANET film...)

    But, to find out that there are going to be "added" scenes which have NOTHING to do with the materpiece film is very unsettling... Had it been touted as a "retelling" of PLANET with a hodge-podge of unnecessary elements then I'd be totally fine with it... Or called "elements" of everything that ever came out under the APES banner, that'd be fine too...

    But it's not shaping up to be that way...

    The original PLANET is the greatest element of the whole canon, and it needs to be treated with the respect it deserves... It doesn't need "added elements" from ANYTHING else called APES...

    Toying with PLANET is the same as drawing the proverbial mustache on the Mona Lisa...



    In a message dated 2/22/2007 5:59:26 PM Central Standard Time, shop@... writes:


    I look forward to hearing it and you know what ? if the story line
    doesn't go in the direction I expect, so what, I'll get over it I'm an
    adult, it'll be a fun ride. Just because some one has a different take
    on a story line doesn't mean the work in itself isn't good or worthy,
    It's just different.


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    .html*** I thought that pota2001 was gonna jumpstart it?

    Or, was it the REVOLUTION comic that was supposed to do that?




    In a message dated 2/22/2007 9:39:36 PM Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:


    This is completely different version of Planet and I think that this is
    something that could jump start the series


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    -- It is probably just me then but I for one can not understand how someone can pass judgement on something when they have not even experienced it themselves. Just because someone tells me something is crap isn't going to make my mind up about it.
     
    Yes people may have preconceived ideas of what they will like or not but the only way they will know for sure is if they do in fact experience it for themselves surely?
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 1:41 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    *** Does that apply to everything that exists, or just APES?

    Seriously, there are tons of people that will not give something a chance based on preconceived notions... Music, movies, TV, and the Arts... People have their ideas of what they will like or not even if they never even sampled other areas... Why should APES be any different?

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    So I take it you didn’t react well to the Power Records then Mike?

     

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    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:53 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

     

    *** One of the biggest things that is turning me off to this project is that by the "ad" for it on Hunter's sight... In my eyes it is being portrayed as an audio telling of the story of PLANET, which I certainly wouldn't be against (nor would I be against a "canonical" BOOK for the PLANET film...)

    But, to find out that there are going to be "added" scenes which have NOTHING to do with the materpiece film is very unsettling.. . Had it been touted as a "retelling" of PLANET with a hodge-podge of unnecessary elements then I'd be totally fine with it... Or called "elements" of everything that ever came out under the APES banner, that'd be fine too...

    But it's not shaping up to be that way...

    The original PLANET is the greatest element of the whole canon, and it needs to be treated with the respect it deserves... It doesn't need "added elements" from ANYTHING else called APES...

    Toying with PLANET is the same as drawing the proverbial mustache on the Mona Lisa...



    In a message dated 2/22/2007 5:59:26 PM Central Standard Time, shop@amgrafcomics. co.uk writes:

    I look forward to hearing it and you know what ? if the story line
    doesn't go in the direction I expect, so what, I'll get over it I'm an
    adult, it'll be a fun ride. Just because some one has a different take
    on a story line doesn't mean the work in itself isn't good or worthy,
    It's just different.





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    -- We all know that nothing will. How can anything new (or different) revitalise it when it ultimately has to compete with and be compared to the original classic movie?
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 1:56 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    *** I thought that pota2001 was gonna jumpstart it?

    Or, was it the REVOLUTION comic that was supposed to do that?

    .

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    .html *** I am fine with the POWER records... Truthfully, Iike their adaption of BATTLE better than the film!

    Plus, the POWER stuff doesn't really add anything to PLANET that would bastardize it (well, except that fact that Taylor comes across as a doofus most of the time...), so I'm okay with it... Plus, they never touted it as being a serious audio retelling of the film... And they sure as hell didn't try adding in stuff from the Boulle novel...

    When the Boulle book is crossed with the PLANET film, where do you stop? Do you start adding in things like making it Virdon and Burke instead of Landon and Dodge?
    Does Stewart live and become Judy from RETURN? Is the Hunt lead by Brutus from the TERROR comics?

    I'd not be so down on the ideas if they were just things from the sequels added together to make another "sequel type" story, but even in audio-land, PLANET is a stand alone piece, and should be treated as such...



    In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:01:55 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


    So I take it you didn't react well to the Power Records then Mike?


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    .html In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:01:49 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:



    Yes people may have preconceived ideas of what they will like or not but the only way they will know for sure is if they do in fact experience it for themselves surely?


    *** I do agree with you here, but I had to point out that preconceived ideas rule everyone's tastes for the most part..
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    Group: potadg Message: 43638 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/22/2007
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    Or was it BEWARE THE BEAST?

     

    Michael

     

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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:56 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

     

    *** I thought that pota2001 was gonna jumpstart it?

    Or, was it the REVOLUTION comic that was supposed to do that?




    In a message dated 2/22/2007 9:39:36 PM Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@aol. com writes:

    This is completely different version of Planet and I think that this is
    something that could jump start the series



     


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    .html In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:16:46 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


    Or was it BEWARE THE BEAST?


    *** Actually, for what it is, Beware the Beast was very good... It had elements from the films PLANET and BENEATH, but it did not cross the line into absurdity!!!!
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    -- If only you had seen the original script for it before I (and I'm pretty sure, Mr. Whitty) asked for changes to be made some of it could have turned out looking quite absurd! And if Ballard hadn't asked for some panels to be changed slightly I'm sure a few others might have stated that it wasn't completely true to the movies. ;-)
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:21 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    *** Actually, for what it is, Beware the Beast was very good... It had elements from the films PLANET and BENEATH, but it did not cross the line into absurdity!!! !
     

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    Group: potadg Message: 43641 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/22/2007
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    Hey thats a great idea, we can do that for the sequel .

    Relax man I'm kidding...

    On 23/02/07, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote:

    *** I am fine with the POWER records... Truthfully, Iike their adaption of BATTLE better than the film!

    Plus, the POWER stuff doesn't really add anything to PLANET that would bastardize it (well, except that fact that Taylor comes across as a doofus most of the time...), so I'm okay with it... Plus, they never touted it as being a serious audio retelling of the film... And they sure as hell didn't try adding in stuff from the Boulle novel...

    When the Boulle book is crossed with the PLANET film, where do you stop? Do you start adding in things like making it Virdon and Burke instead of Landon and Dodge?
    Does Stewart live and become Judy from RETURN? Is the Hunt lead by Brutus from the TERROR comics?

    I'd not be so down on the ideas if they were just things from the sequels added together to make another "sequel type" story, but even in audio-land, PLANET is a stand alone piece, and should be treated as such...



    In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:01:55 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


    So I take it you didn't react well to the Power Records then Mike?




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    Group: potadg Message: 43642 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/23/2007
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    Thanks Greg!


    --- gp3085 <urko3085@...> wrote:

    > There are 16 issues of Mighty World of Marvel that
    > have Apes content.
    >
    > Greg
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
    > <apefan23@...> wrote:
    > >
    > > thanks Greg.....and how many ape-related issues
    > are
    > > there?
    > >
    > > Tim
    >
    >
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    -- Funnily enough I recall that when we first presented the page that showed Gideon in full some people didn't like the fact that his 'uniform' wasn't exactly the same as the gorillas in Planet! And then there was someone who thought it was absurd that hundreds of humans just 'appeared from nowhere' to chase him!
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:21 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    In a message dated 2/22/2007 10:16:46 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:


    Or was it BEWARE THE BEAST?


    *** Actually, for what it is, Beware the Beast was very good... It had elements from the films PLANET and BENEATH, but it did not cross the line into absurdity!!! !

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    Graham – the trick is to post MORE!  ;)

     

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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 10:51 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

     


    (I haven't posted much in the last week for a few reasons but I'm sure
    a couple of members can guess why)


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    Group: potadg Message: 43645 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/23/2007
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    Am I the only one who perceives the irony in all this?

    The same people who want the keep the original POTA pristine and
    untainted by novel approaches seem to have forgotten that it original
    movie itself was nearly never made because studio heads refused to
    tackle such an original idea. Jacobs tried for years to get POTA made
    and faced similar opposition. Thankfully one studio exec had the
    gonads to give Jacobs a chance. If everyone adapted the thick skinned
    approach that some here have expressed then POTA would certainly be
    destined to evolve no further.

    Honestly, some people act like they are shutins, who want to hide in
    their little corner with a copy of POTA in their hands and close off
    the rest of the world.

    I can only thank my lucky stars that there are people here that still
    try to come up with new material. They may not always work. Some are
    hits, some are misses. But one thing they all have in common is that
    someone tried. If you don't try you'll never succeed.

    Ok, my friday rant is over...

    Dario

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
    Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:59 pm
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    > -- It is probably just me then but I for one can not understand how
    > someone can pass judgement on something when they have not even
    > experienced it themselves. Just because someone tells me something is
    > crap isn't going to make my mind up about it.
    >
    > Yes people may have preconceived ideas of what they will like or
    > not but
    > the only way they will know for sure is if they do in fact
    > experience it
    > for themselves surely?
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
    Behalf
    > Of mlccougar@...
    > Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 1:41 PM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama
    >
    >
    >
    > *** Does that apply to everything that exists, or just APES?
    >
    > Seriously, there are tons of people that will not give something a
    > chance based on preconceived notions... Music, movies, TV, and the
    > Arts... People have their ideas of what they will like or not even if
    > they never even sampled other areas... Why should APES be any
    > different?
    >
    >
    > .
    >
    > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
    s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
    > sgId=43630/stime=1172202341/nc1=4425444/nc2=3858794/nc3=3848627>
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    Group: potadg Message: 43646 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
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    .html*** Whitty,

    Take your advice and post more... I posted at naseum the last couple of days, posts which I thought you'd reply to for sure... Where are your replies (if yu have any that is)..?



    In a message dated 2/23/2007 4:06:59 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


    Graham – the trick is to post MORE!  ;)


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    Subject: Chimps Make Weapons to Hunt, Scientists Say
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    Group: potadg Message: 43648 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 2/23/2007
    Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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    I never said I opposed this work because of its originality. I'm all for originality, and if this were a completely original story, I'd be eager to listen to it. I will probably listen to this mostly unoriginal amalgamation, despite my extremely low expectations, because I would like to hear the truly original parts.

    My problem with this work is that it makes unacceptable changes to the source material in order to make the book and the movie compatible. I feel that "new material" which only serves to desecrate the old is rubbish. This isn't Jacobs going to the studios, this is Burton.

    On Feb 23, 2007, at 8:34 am, Dario Sciola wrote:

    Am I the only one who perceives the irony in all this?

    The same people who want the keep the original POTA pristine and
    untainted by novel approaches seem to have forgotten that it original
    movie itself was nearly never made because studio heads refused to
    tackle such an original idea. Jacobs tried for years to get POTA made
    and faced similar opposition. Thankfully one studio exec had the
    gonads to give Jacobs a chance. If everyone adapted the thick skinned
    approach that some here have expressed then POTA would certainly be
    destined to evolve no further.

    Honestly, some people act like they are shutins, who want to hide in
    their little corner with a copy of POTA in their hands and close off
    the rest of the world.

    I can only thank my lucky stars that there are people here that still
    try to come up with new material. They may not always work. Some are
    hits, some are misses. But one thing they all have in common is that
    someone tried. If you don't try you'll never succeed.

    Ok, my friday rant is over...

    Dario

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    Group: potadg Message: 43649 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/23/2007
    Subject: Re: Chimps Make Weapons to Hunt, Scientists Say
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
    >
    >
    > http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/chimps-make-weapons-to-hunt-scientists/20070222203809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
    >
    >
    >
    Thanks for the link Rory, interesting article, it's the planning and forethought that they show that is interesting, that they actually think through a task.

    Oh I did miss read the title of your post for a sec' and thought it said chimps make weapons to hunt scientists ( No comma ) which would have been a whole different story, They could make a film out of that :)

    Graham.

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    Group: potadg Message: 43650 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/23/2007
    Subject: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > Graham - the trick is to post MORE! ;)
    >
     Heh... I know ... I know, but some days I just can't be arsed :)

    Best, Graham. 

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    Group: potadg Message: 43651 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
    Subject: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
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    Hey guys I was surfing the web last night and found some POTA commercials for the toys in the 1970's. I thought you guys might want to have a look back at how cheesy our toy commercials where. One of the odd things about this is the music in the back ground is from 2001 a space oddity? Didn't these guys have bad blood because they lost out to POTA in the academy awards in 1968?
     
     




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    Group: potadg Message: 43652 From: Graham Hill Date: 2/23/2007
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
    >

    >
    > I can only thank my lucky stars that there are people here that still
    > try to come up with new material. They may not always work. Some are
    > hits, some are misses. But one thing they all have in common is that
    > someone tried. If you don't try you'll never succeed.
    >
    > Ok, my friday rant is over...
    >
    > Dario
    >
    Well put Dario, don't worry about the rant, we all do it from time to time :)

    I'd join in myself but as you say it's Friday night and well I've already started on the whiskey !!! (I've ran out of southern comfort and not keen on the vodka... but the way things are going the top might just come off that as well ! )

    Best, Graham.

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    Group: potadg Message: 43653 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 2/23/2007
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    Dear All,
     
    This months "Model and Collectors Mart" which is a UK mag, has the first part of a POTA feature on collecting. This month takes in the film history and talks about the books, Sideshow and Apemania. Next month is TV, animation and Burton. It will also look at the big wave of collectables from 73 onwards.
    I will try and put it into a PDF or scan it somehow for the
    POTADG files.
     
    Hope you are all well
     
    John B Kirtley
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: 23 February 2007 09:56
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    Graham – the trick is to post MORE!  ;)

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 10:51 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

     


    (I haven't posted much in the last week for a few reasons but I'm sure
    a couple of members can guess why)


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    Group: potadg Message: 43654 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
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    -- Thanks for the heads up John. And if you have any problems uploading it due to lack of space in the Files section or anything let me know and I'll see what I can sort out.
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Brandon Kirtley
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 8:52 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    Dear All,
     
    This months "Model and Collectors Mart" which is a UK mag, has the first part of a POTA feature on collecting. This month takes in the film history and talks about the books, Sideshow and Apemania. Next month is TV, animation and Burton. It will also look at the big wave of collectables from 73 onwards.
    I will try and put it into a PDF or scan it somehow for the
    POTADG files.
    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 43655 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
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    -- Not a rant at all Dario, in fact very nicely put, thanks.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 12:35 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    Am I the only one who perceives the irony in all this?

    The same people who want the keep the original POTA pristine and
    untainted by novel approaches seem to have forgotten that it original
    movie itself was nearly never made because studio heads refused to
    tackle such an original idea. Jacobs tried for years to get POTA made
    and faced similar opposition. Thankfully one studio exec had the
    gonads to give Jacobs a chance. If everyone adapted the thick skinned
    approach that some here have expressed then POTA would certainly be
    destined to evolve no further.

    Honestly, some people act like they are shutins, who want to hide in
    their little corner with a copy of POTA in their hands and close off
    the rest of the world.

    I can only thank my lucky stars that there are people here that still
    try to come up with new material. They may not always work. Some are
    hits, some are misses. But one thing they all have in common is that
    someone tried. If you don't try you'll never succeed.

    Ok, my friday rant is over...

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 43656 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/23/2007
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    Didn't Yahoo just increase the available file space for groups?

    Though given the broad range of material availalbe on POTA groups that could still be an issue.

    On 24/02/07, Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

    -- Thanks for the heads up John. And if you have any problems uploading it due to lack of space in the Files section or anything let me know and I'll see what I can sort out.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of John Brandon Kirtley
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 8:52 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    Dear All,
     
    This months "Model and Collectors Mart" which is a UK mag, has the first part of a POTA feature on collecting. This month takes in the film history and talks about the books, Sideshow and Apemania. Next month is TV, animation and Burton. It will also look at the big wave of collectables from 73 onwards.
    I will try and put it into a PDF or scan it somehow for the
    POTADG files.

    .




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    Group: potadg Message: 43657 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/23/2007
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    Friday night for me involved 8 rampaging nine-year-old girls having
    a "Pizza and DVD" party! I drank for the first time in ages (Snowy
    Mountains Brewery beer - VERY nice!) to calm my nerves and I have a
    bottle of Jim Beam Small Batch for tonight.....

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@> wrote:
    > >
    >
    > >
    > > I can only thank my lucky stars that there are people here that
    still
    > > try to come up with new material. They may not always work. Some
    are
    > > hits, some are misses. But one thing they all have in common is
    that
    > > someone tried. If you don't try you'll never succeed.
    > >
    > > Ok, my friday rant is over...
    > >
    > > Dario
    > >
    > Well put Dario, don't worry about the rant, we all do it from time
    to
    > time [:)]
    >
    > I'd join in myself but as you say it's Friday night and well I've
    > already started on the whiskey !!! (I've ran out of southern
    comfort and
    > not keen on the vodka... but the way things are going the top might
    just
    > come off that as well ! )
    >
    > Best, Graham.
    >
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    -- Hmmm, you could be on to something here Graham. Quick, someone get writing! ;-)
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
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    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 4:21 AM
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    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Chimps Make Weapons to Hunt, Scientists Say

    Oh I did miss read the title of your post for a sec' and thought it said chimps make weapons to hunt scientists ( No comma ) which would have been a whole different story, They could make a film out of that :)

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    -- I may be wrong but I think the advice to Graham was more about posting more to counter the posts of some people who have occasion to post with the sole purpose of putting someone down by belittling their work etc. and stemming the flow of posts for some unknown personal reason.
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 12:44 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    *** Whitty,

    Take your advice and post more... I posted at naseum the last couple of days, posts which I thought you'd reply to for sure... Where are your replies (if yu have any that is)..?

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    -- Thanks Tom. Are these the same ones that are on that Rarities Disc?
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 4:25 AM
    To: PofTAfan@...; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes

    Hey guys I was surfing the web last night and found some POTA commercials for the toys in the 1970's. I thought you guys might want to have a look back at how cheesy our toy commercials where. One of the odd things about this is the music in the back ground is from 2001 a space oddity? Didn't these guys have bad blood because they lost out to POTA in the academy awards in 1968?
     
     
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    -- Dear, oh dear. That's not Abba I can hear in the background is it?!? :-)
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 4:37 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

     I'd join in myself but as you say it's Friday night and well I've already started on the whiskey !!! (I've ran out of southern comfort and not keen on the vodka... but the way things are going the top might just come off that as well ! )

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    In a message dated 2/23/2007 6:52:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
    -- Thanks Tom. Are these the same ones that are on that Rarities Disc?
     
    Neil
    I don't have the disc so I don't know to be honest. What a bummer I thought I found something new, oh well    
     




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    -- Don't worry about it, I don't think everyone has the disc anyway so it will be something new for a few of us. At least you are out there looking for something new to share, so kudos for that!
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 9:54 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes

    In a message dated 2/23/2007 6:52:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
    -- Thanks Tom. Are these the same ones that are on that Rarities Disc?
     
    Neil
    I don't have the disc so I don't know to be honest. What a bummer I thought I found something new, oh well  
     

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    -- And just to clarify this a little bit I am definitely not talking about any of the posts from the last couple of days. It concerned a post from a little while ago that upset one of our members.
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 9:49 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    -- I may be wrong but I think the advice to Graham was more about posting more to counter the posts of some people who have occasion to post with the sole purpose of putting someone down by belittling their work etc. and stemming the flow of posts for some unknown personal reason.
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    Group: potadg Message: 43665 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
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    .html *** The truth is that they only green-lighted PLANET because they wanted Arthur's other film.. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was cause they wanted the big screen flop "Dr. Doolittle...)


    In a message dated 2/23/2007 8:37:16 AM Central Standard Time, darios@... writes:


    Jacobs tried for years to get POTA made and faced similar opposition. Thankfully one studio exec had the gonads to give Jacobs a chance.


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    Group: potadg Message: 43666 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
    Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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    .html Let me say I echo Ant's sentiments... Look at my previous postings and you'll see that had they made this more of a "sequel story" (or a story that was based on all POTA ideas fron BENEATH on) I'd be fine with it too... But to say it is an audio drama of PLANET is wrong... It's an APES story with PLANET ideas blended with all the rest...

    I'd love an actual true to PLANET audio drama... This project just isn't a true to film story...



    In a message dated 2/23/2007 10:52:26 AM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:



    I never said I opposed this work because of its originality. I'm all for originality, and if this were a completely original story, I'd be eager to listen to it. I will probably listen to this mostly unoriginal amalgamation, despite my extremely low expectations, because I would like to hear the truly original parts.  


    My problem with this work is that it makes unacceptable changes to the source material in order to make the book and the movie compatible. I feel that "new material" which only serves to desecrate the old is rubbish. This isn't Jacobs going to the studios, this is Burton.  




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    .html In a message dated 2/23/2007 5:52:38 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:


    Are these the same ones that are on that Rarities Disc?


    *** They should be the same... MEGO only made a few different commercials for their APES line..
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    Group: potadg Message: 43668 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
    Subject: Re: Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes
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    .html In a message dated 2/23/2007 12:26:11 PM Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:


    I thought you guys might want to have a look back at how cheesy our toy commercials where. One of the odd things about this is the music in the back ground is from 2001 a space oddity? Didn't these guys have bad blood because they lost out to POTA in the academy awards in 1968?


    *** Nah, those commercials aren't cheesy... At least they have an actual (albeit VERY thin) plot going on... And I'm quite sure that isn't "2001" music, as MEGO was a very budget conscience company, and they certainly wouldn't have put up the ching to license that music... They pinched pennies, and that's not knocking them: They were just very thrifty and efficient...

    Anyway, as far as "bad blood", there is the story that they thought John Chambers ripped them off (the way he designed our APES was supposedly "stolen" from the 2001 crew during the filming...) I do not know of any bad blood from losing out to PLANET at the 1969 awards though...

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    Group: potadg Message: 43669 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/23/2007
    Subject: Re: New member and his PLANET audio drama
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    .html In a message dated 2/23/2007 5:51:42 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:


    -- I may be wrong but I think the advice was more about posting more to counter the posts of some people who have occasion to post with the sole purpose of putting someone down by belittling their work etc.

    *** Who's belittling anyone's work?

    I said the audio drama is not a true to form adaption of PLANET and that there certainly is no tying the film and Boulle novel together...

    I did say I'd probably listen to it though.


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    Group: potadg Message: 43670 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
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    -- Well cheesy or not my kids pi**ed themselves laughing when they saw them.
    I must say I also though the music sounded very 2001ish, not exact but certainly ripped off from in my opinion. Sounds to me like it wasn't only pennies they were pinching at the time.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 10:38 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Check out YouTube - Mego Presents the Planet of the Apes

    *** Nah, those commercials aren't cheesy... At least they have an actual (albeit VERY thin) plot going on... And I'm quite sure that isn't "2001" music, as MEGO was a very budget conscience company, and they certainly wouldn't have put up the ching to license that music... They pinched pennies, and that's not knocking them: They were just very thrifty and efficient...
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    Group: potadg Message: 43671 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
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    -- Read my post that followed that one please before assuming anything. My fault, I should have explained better in this one, sorry.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 10:32 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    In a message dated 2/23/2007 5:51:42 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:


    -- I may be wrong but I think the advice was more about posting more to counter the posts of some people who have occasion to post with the sole purpose of putting someone down by belittling their work etc.

    *** Who's belittling anyone's work?

    I said the audio drama is not a true to form adaption of PLANET and that there certainly is no tying the film and Boulle novel together...

    I did say I'd probably listen to it though.

    .

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    .html In a message dated 2/23/2007 6:50:36 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:


    -- Well cheesy or not my kids pi**ed themselves laughing when they saw them.


    *** Granted, the one with The Forbidden Zone Trap is dumb in it's dialog when they have the gorilla saying "I smell and astronaut..."
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    Group: potadg Message: 43673 From: Paul Mannering Date: 2/23/2007
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    This guy's great, I haven't heard the final product yet and he knows more about the production than I do.

    What's the secret?

    On 24/02/07, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote:

    Let me say I echo Ant's sentiments... Look at my previous postings and you'll see that had they made this more of a "sequel story" (or a story that was based on all POTA ideas fron BENEATH on) I'd be fine with it too... But to say it is an audio drama of PLANET is wrong... It's an APES story with PLANET ideas blended with all the rest...

    I'd love an actual true to PLANET audio drama... This project just isn't a true to film story...



    In a message dated 2/23/2007 10:52:26 AM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:



    I never said I opposed this work because of its originality. I'm all for originality, and if this were a completely original story, I'd be eager to listen to it. I will probably listen to this mostly unoriginal amalgamation, despite my extremely low expectations, because I would like to hear the truly original parts.  


    My problem with this work is that it makes unacceptable changes to the source material in order to make the book and the movie compatible. I feel that "new material" which only serves to desecrate the old is rubbish. This isn't Jacobs going to the studios, this is Burton.  






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    Group: potadg Message: 43674 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
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    -- Holy ****! Yes you are right, our files capacity has risen from 20MB to 100MB (which ironically is what they used to allow!) I hadn't even noticed and haven't received any notification from Yahoo about it.
    Thanks very much for pointing that out Paul.
     
    I suppose this means we probably won't need all those satellite groups that we started up to use for storage because we are loath to get rid of anything. (Links on the Group's Home Page) 
    And of course someone will now have to spend a couple of days transferring all the files and photos back to the main group, you up for the job Mr. Whitty? ;-)
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mannering
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 9:43 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    Didn't Yahoo just increase the available file space for groups?

    Though given the broad range of material availalbe on POTA groups that could still be an issue.

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    Group: potadg Message: 43675 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/23/2007
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    -- Hey that's my line! A letter from my lawyers is in the mail pal!! ;-)
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 4:23 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

     some days I just can't be arsed :)

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    Group: potadg Message: 43676 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/23/2007
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    While I do believe that they wanted Dr. Doolitle, they would not have
    green-lighted POTA just to get it. They did after all go to the trouble
    to make the test footage. POTA was a big budget movie at the time and it
    represented a big investment on their part. Doolitle may have been a
    factor, but certainly not the reason.

    It just occured to me that the two remakes, Doolittle and POTA, both
    came out in 2001. Now Murphy's Doolitle has had a sequel (when the
    original one bombed) and the new POTA has not. How things change.

    Dario

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: mlccougar@...
    Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:21 pm
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    > *** The truth is that they only green-lighted PLANET because they
    > wanted
    > Arthur's other film.. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it
    > was cause they
    > wanted the big screen flop "Dr. Doolittle...)
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 2/23/2007 8:37:16 AM Central Standard Time,
    > darios@...
    > writes:
    >
    >
    > > Jacobs tried for years to get POTA made and faced similar
    > opposition.
    > > Thankfully one studio exec had the gonads to give Jacobs a
    > chance.
    >
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    I thought that PLANET was green-lighted when Fox realized that sci-fi
    could make big bucks due to the success of "FANTASTIC VOYAGE". Isn't
    this tidbit mentioned in the BEHIND THE POTA documentary? I don't
    recall Fox having to make PLANET in order to get their hands on
    APJ's "DR. DOOLITTLE" project. We APES fans should be ever so
    grateful that "FANTASTIC VOYAGE" was the hit it was, cuz PLANET
    wouldn't have been made (in all probability) if it wasn't for that
    fact.

    I don't know if this is an exaggeration or not, but I think that SF
    films have saved more than one studio from going belly-up. PLANET
    (and its sequels) made money for FOX when several other expensive
    films didn't do enough box office (like "DR. DOOLITTLE" for
    instance). And "LOGAN'S RUN" saved MGM at the time, too. Most of the
    top moneymakers have been SF films, from the "STAR WARS" franchise to
    the "TERMINATOR" movies. SF or fantasy, that is -- those "LORD OF THE
    RINGS" movies did boffo biz.

    Patrick
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

    While I do believe that they wanted Dr. Doolitle, they would not have
    green-lighted POTA just to get it. They did after all go to the
    trouble to make the test footage. POTA was a big budget movie at the
    time and it represented a big investment on their part. Doolitle may
    have been a factor, but certainly not the reason.

    It just occured to me that the two remakes, Doolittle and POTA, both
    came out in 2001. Now Murphy's Doolitle has had a sequel (when the
    original one bombed) and the new POTA has not. How things change.

    Dario

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: mlccougar@...
    Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:21 pm
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    *** The truth is that they only green-lighted PLANET because they
    wanted Arthur's other film.. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe
    it was cause they wanted the big screen flop "Dr. Doolittle...)

    In a message dated 2/23/2007 8:37:16 AM Central Standard Time,
    darios@... writes:
    Jacobs tried for years to get POTA made and faced similar opposition.
    Thankfully one studio exec had the gonads to give Jacobs a chance.
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > -- Dear, oh dear. That's not Abba I can hear in the background is it?!?
    > :-)
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    Oh no... it was my birthday on Thursday so I put on one of the cds I got, Closer by Joy Division... you know nice and cheerful :)

    (Reliving my Manchester youth)

    Best, Graham. 

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    Group: potadg Message: 43679 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/24/2007
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    -- Ha, yeah, really cheerful stuff! I remember them though I wasn't a fan. Didn't the lead singer commit suicide after a gig in my old home town of Bury? Quite understandable really! ;-)
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2007 3:57 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    Oh no... it was my birthday on Thursday so I put on one of the cds I got, Closer by Joy Division... you know nice and cheerful :)

    (Reliving my Manchester youth)

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    Group: potadg Message: 43680 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/24/2007
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    -- Oh, and a Happy belated birthday to you Graham.
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2007 3:57 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > -- Dear, oh dear. That's not Abba I can hear in the background is it?!?
    > :-)
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    Oh no... it was my birthday on Thursday so I put on one of the cds I got, Closer by Joy Division... you know nice and cheerful :)

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 43681 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/24/2007
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    Yeah happy b'day Gra-Gra!
     
    Have you seen the movie about the London scene when JD and the Sex Pistols were young?  What the hell is that movie called again?
     
    Oh - and I have CLOSER.  VERY depressing.....

    Michael
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
    Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2007 10:52 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    -- Oh, and a Happy belated birthday to you Graham.
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2007 3:57 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > -- Dear, oh dear. That's not Abba I can hear in the background is it?!?
    > :-)
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    Oh no... it was my birthday on Thursday so I put on one of the cds I got, Closer by Joy Division... you know nice and cheerful :)

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    Group: potadg Message: 43682 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/24/2007
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    Happy Bday Graham. An extra drink for you then.
    And I'll have one on you over here!

    Dario

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
    Date: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:52 pm
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama

    > -- Oh, and a Happy belated birthday to you Graham.
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
    > Of Graham Hill
    > Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2007 3:57 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    > >
    > > -- Dear, oh dear. That's not Abba I can hear in the background is
    > it?!?
    > > :-)
    > >
    > > Neil
    > >
    > >
    > Oh no... it was my birthday on Thursday so I put on one of the cds I
    > got, Closer by Joy Division... you know nice and cheerful :)
    > <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif>
    >
    > .
    >
    > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
    > sgId=43678/stime=1172339949/nc1=4425444/nc2=3858790/nc3=3848618>
    >
    >
    >
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > -- Ha, yeah, really cheerful stuff! I remember them though I wasn't a
    > fan. Didn't the lead singer commit suicide after a gig in my old home
    > town of Bury? Quite understandable really! ;-)
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    Yeah, Ian Curtis, Hung himself, If I've done this right here's a link to the bands Wikipedia listing

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division

    and here's the listing for the "Closer" album

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closer_%28Joy_Division_album%29

    Best, Graham

    (You see Michael this is what I listen to having hung round "here" for a couple of years !!!  :))

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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > Yeah happy b'day Gra-Gra!
    >
    > Have you seen the movie about the London scene when JD and the Sex Pistols
    > were young? What the hell is that movie called again?
    >
    > Oh - and I have CLOSER. VERY depressing.....
    >
    > Michael
    >
     Do you mean "24 hour party people " about Factor records and the Manchester scene of the late 70's, on through to the 90's "Madchester" scene and the rise of the Haçienda club, which when I was at art school was the place to be seen, as long as you didn't mind the drug gangs, stabbings, guns and shootings !!

    Best, Graham.

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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
    >
    > Happy Bday Graham. An extra drink for you then.
    > And I'll have one on you over here!
    >
    > Dario
    >
    Thanks Dario, !!

    The only problem now is I've only got vodka left

    ( I'll just have to mix it !!! )

    Best wishes Graham.

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    Group: potadg Message: 43686 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/25/2007
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    That's the movie I'm thinking of.
     
    How about those crrazy Happy Mondays boys?
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2007 10:04 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:New member and his PLANET audio drama


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > Yeah happy b'day Gra-Gra!
    >
    > Have you seen the movie about the London scene when JD and the Sex Pistols
    > were young? What the hell is that movie called again?
    >
    > Oh - and I have CLOSER. VERY depressing.. ...
    >
    > Michael
    >
     Do you mean "24 hour party people " about Factor records and the Manchester scene of the late 70's, on through to the 90's "Madchester" scene and the rise of the Haçienda club, which when I was at art school was the place to be seen, as long as you didn't mind the drug gangs, stabbings, guns and shootings !!

    Best, Graham.

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