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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 7:32 AM
To: 'PotaDG'
Subject: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Well it looks like part 2 is ready to download for those that want to listen to it:

 

http://brokensea. com/pota/ 102POTAChap1BSP. mp3

 

It would have been nice if someone involved had let the group know but It seems that they don't want to bother with a group that has members who have the decency to provide honest feedback instead of having orgasms over it.

 

Anyway I'll still give it a listen and it will be interesting to hear what fellow DG members think of this latest part!

 

Neil

 

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What did that "Lesson from the Lawgiver" have to do with anything? It
wasn't funny, amusing, or thought provoking. ...and why does the
announcer annunciate everything like Kermit the frog? Don't get me
wrong, nobody is a bigger Kermit fan than me... but come on. It takes
forever for the story to go anywhere. I'll stick to my old Power
Records at this point. Its really disappointing. I had high hopes.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Well someone recently was saying that LR could fit on the Planet of
the
> Apes.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Neil T Foster
> Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:05 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for
download
>
>
>
>
>
> -- And I see that they are also doing a Logan's Run Audio as well.
I wonder
> if we could talk them into doing a LR / POTA crossover sometime in
the
> future. I'm sure they could come up with a plausible story.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Neil T Foster
> Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 6:32 AM
> To: 'PotaDG'
> Subject: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download
>
>
>
>
>
> Well it looks like part 2 is ready to download for those that want
to listen
> to it:
> .
> Web Bug from
> http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId=
> 43981/stime=1173992114/nc1=4438974/nc2=2/nc3=3
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New member

-- The only problem for people like me who don't live in the US is that reasonably priced things can become too expensive when postage costs kick in.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2007 3:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New member

*** That's the thing, there is that eBay out there... There are APES items in almost every price range, so the stuf is there to be had...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2517

-- True, the minimalist style was used because it was a good chance to experiment with using a faster style for getting the drawings done but any lack of interest is not because of the story but a lack of interest for most things POTA due to reasons I have explained recently.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 9 March 2007 10:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2517

And  judging from Neil's lack of interest he felt the same. 

 

 And given Neil's decision to go with a

minimalist style to speed it up,

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Great, then they let Dr. Phil give thanks to everyone who contributed.
The music seemed to be just randomly played where ever they felt like
throwing it in. There was such potenial to do something great and
fun. What a shame. And what's with all the swearing? Look, I'm the
Devil and I don't get offended by anything but I think my 6 yr old
would be more into this than I am.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> What did that "Lesson from the Lawgiver" have to do with anything?
It
> wasn't funny, amusing, or thought provoking. ...and why does the
> announcer annunciate everything like Kermit the frog? Don't get me
> wrong, nobody is a bigger Kermit fan than me... but come on. It
takes
> forever for the story to go anywhere. I'll stick to my old Power
> Records at this point. Its really disappointing. I had high hopes.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Well someone recently was saying that LR could fit on the Planet
of
> the
> > Apes.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of
> > Neil T Foster
> > Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:05 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for
> download
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- And I see that they are also doing a Logan's Run Audio as
well.
> I wonder
> > if we could talk them into doing a LR / POTA crossover sometime
in
> the
> > future. I'm sure they could come up with a plausible story.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of
> > Neil T Foster
> > Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 6:32 AM
> > To: 'PotaDG'
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for
download
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well it looks like part 2 is ready to download for those that
want
> to listen
> > to it:
> > .
> > Web Bug from
> > http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
> s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId=
> > 43981/stime=1173992114/nc1=4438974/nc2=2/nc3=3
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

What did that "Lesson from the Lawgiver" have to do with anything? It
wasn't funny, amusing, or thought provoking. ...and why does the
announcer annunciate everything like Kermit the frog? Don't get me
wrong, nobody is a bigger Kermit fan than me... but come on. It takes
forever for the story to go anywhere. I'll stick to my old Power
Records at this point. Its really disappointing. I had high hopes.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Well someone recently was saying that LR could fit on the Planet of
the
> Apes.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of
> Neil T Foster
> Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:05 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for
download
>
>
>
>
>
> -- And I see that they are also doing a Logan's Run Audio as well.
I wonder
> if we could talk them into doing a LR / POTA crossover sometime in
the
> future. I'm sure they could come up with a plausible story.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of
> Neil T Foster
> Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 6:32 AM
> To: 'PotaDG'
> Subject: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download
>
>
>
>
>
> Well it looks like part 2 is ready to download for those that want
to listen
> to it:
> .
> Web Bug from
> http://geo.yahoo. com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId= 8605785/grpspId= 1705021437/ msgId=
> 43981/stime= 1173992114/ nc1=4438974/ nc2=2/nc3= 3
>
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 9:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Great, then they let Dr. Phil give thanks to everyone who contributed.
The music seemed to be just randomly played where ever they felt like
throwing it in. There was such potenial to do something great and
fun. What a shame. And what's with all the swearing? Look, I'm the
Devil and I don't get offended by anything but I think my 6 yr old
would be more into this than I am.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
>
> What did that "Lesson from the Lawgiver" have to do with anything?
It
> wasn't funny, amusing, or thought provoking. ...and why does the
> announcer annunciate everything like Kermit the frog? Don't get me
> wrong, nobody is a bigger Kermit fan than me... but come on. It
takes
> forever for the story to go anywhere. I'll stick to my old Power
> Records at this point. Its really disappointing. I had high hopes.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Well someone recently was saying that LR could fit on the Planet
of
> the
> > Apes.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Neil T Foster
> > Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:05 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for
> download
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- And I see that they are also doing a Logan's Run Audio as
well.
> I wonder
> > if we could talk them into doing a LR / POTA crossover sometime
in
> the
> > future. I'm sure they could come up with a plausible story.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Neil T Foster
> > Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 6:32 AM
> > To: 'PotaDG'
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for
download
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well it looks like part 2 is ready to download for those that
want
> to listen
> > to it:
> > .
> > Web Bug from
> > http://geo.yahoo. com/serv?
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Great, then they let Dr. Phil give thanks to everyone who contributed.
The music seemed to be just randomly played where ever they felt like
throwing it in. There was such potenial to do something great and
fun. What a shame. And what's with all the swearing? Look, I'm the
Devil and I don't get offended by anything but I think my 6 yr old
would be more into this than I am.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 7:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

The "Lessons" is just a "lessons".

 

Just another cowardly way to make a statement you can deny making.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 7:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Minimalist children's bool

I actually like the style and I think it would make a great kids' book if you two want to discuss the prospect?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 7:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New member

Speaking of reasonable prices - anyone see what APEMANIABYJOHN got for his POTA AHI STUNT CYCLE on EBAY?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:00 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com; friends & fugitives
Subject: [PotaDG] Mighty World of Marvel issue 233 and Simian Scrolls issue 5

Also this week, issue 5 of Simian Scrolls, a Battle for the Planet of the Apes Special, is now available to download. Thanks to John Roche and Dave Ballard and all the contributors to this issue.

 

https://pota. goatley.com/

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 10:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New member

-- No. I take it that would be an expensive collectable?

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 7:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New member

Speaking of reasonable prices - anyone see what APEMANIABYJOHN got for his POTA AHI STUNT CYCLE on EBAY?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 10:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

-- But the thing is this one isn't even one of their concealed attacks. It's just pointless unless I'm missing some subtle meaning in it?

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 7:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

The "Lessons" is just a "lessons".

 

Just another cowardly way to make a statement you can deny making.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 10:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

--  I've just listened to part 2. I wanted to like this, I really, really did but then again I wanted to like Burton's mess as well.

 

I'm sorry but there is so much I don't like about this. 

That computer 'voice' really annoys me, that is when you can hear it over the 'sound effects' which is a recurring problem it seems with this. Many times the voices are needlessly drowned out by them.  And speaking of the sound effects the most common one so far seems to be footsteps, if it's not the footsteps on the 'Lesson' it's the continuous metallic clanking of feet in the spaceship, sorry but it just gets annoying and I hope that we are not going to get half an hour or more of footsteps crossing the desert in the next episode or two.

Is that hissing meant to be the water pouring into the ship? And, why oh why, is there so much profanity?

 

Another problem for me is the amount of story time wasted by inserting needless music or sounds and having nothing happening for what seems like minutes at a time, I sat there screaming in my head "just get on with it!" at the start.

 

Something that really worries me is that we are already about 40 minutes into this and they've just got out of the ship! This is going to go on forever unless the pace picks up (and the next part of the story, the trek, is meant to drag on!!)

 

As for the 'Lesson' jeez, what a load of c**p. Nothing at all to do with the story and a totally mindless waste of time and space, it's not even a lesson about anything!

 

Sorry if I sound totally negative about this but like I said, I really did want to like this, but I don't so far but I do appreciate the time and effort that has gone into it and I will listen to it to the bitter end if I can.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 8:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Great, then they let Dr. Phil give thanks to everyone who contributed.
The music seemed to be just randomly played where ever they felt like
throwing it in. There was such potenial to do something great and
fun. What a shame. And what's with all the swearing? Look, I'm the
Devil and I don't get offended by anything but I think my 6 yr old
would be more into this than I am.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 9:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Will I buy the CD?....hmmmm. ...

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In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:08:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

I wonder if we could talk them into doing a LR / POTA crossover

 

I wonder if they could be talked out of it.

 

 

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In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:47:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

...and why does the
announcer annunciate everything like Kermit the frog? Don't get me
wrong, nobody is a bigger Kermit fan than me...

 

Do you have the Photo Puppet.

Kermit is cool and all.  Just not

$200 bucks worth of cool.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:16:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- The only problem for people like me who don't live in the US is that reasonably priced things can become too expensive when postage costs kick in.

 

Neil

 

I feel the same way when I order from Japan.

Often the postage is more than the item I order.

 

 

T

 

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In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:40:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

I think they are expensive.

 

Michael

 

You almost feel it should be ceramic for that much.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/15/2007 6:16:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Sorry if I sound totally negative about this but like I said, I really did want to like this, but I don't so far

 

I listened to some of the Powerbook Records,

which was over the top enough to be funny,

but this stuff isn't even funny.  It's just sad.

Too bad they put so much into it, since

they are probably the only ones who

are listening to it.  But they should

be forced to . . over and over again.

Maybe then they'd figure out where

it all went so horribly wrong.

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Sure, Neil.

Due to the increasing number of requests for back issues, John and
Dave reconsidered the idea of scanning and posting the back issues.
If any contributors object to their material being online, it will
quickly be removed. Contributors to the issues yet to be scanned can
also notify Dave, John or myself and those pages will be left out if
the contributor requests it.

Thanks,
Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Hey Greg, quite a while back when asked if they would ever make
past
> issues of Scrolls available online one of the editors said they
probably
> wouldn't because they didn't want to upset people who had
contributed
> articles etc. by making issues available on the net without those
> contributors' permission.
>
> I was just wondering, as you are involved in making them available
> (according to Hunter's site and as there are no longer any Scrolls
> people on this group) whether they have decided to abandoned this
> approach or is permission actually sought from contributors before
they
> are made available?
>
> Hope you can help answer this for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Neil

Well it looks like a little bit more criticism has had an effect, what a
pity, looks like it was only praise he wanted which is quite sad really:


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Well, I tried to not just attack the project and let it be known why
I was so disappointed. Oh well.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- "Feel free to post this if you want"
>
> So I have as I thought you folks at least deserved the chance to
read
> it.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Hollweg [billhollweg@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 2:07 AM
> To: Neil T Foster
> Subject: Amigo
>
>
> About your most recent post. I am doing this off-list because I
respect
> you and your art and you have been nice and honest in your opinions
> about my POTA audio Drama good and bad.
>
> It's one thing to critique-but when the insults started being
hurled by
> the same group of 4 people, I found it offensive. I have not the
time
> for being insulted, nor do I have the time to forward the odious
email
> posts to the people working hard to make this audio drama so they
too
> can be insulted by childish behavior (not by you).
>
> The orgasms comment that you made was interesting.
>
> Are there good points made on POTA DG, yes- sandwiched in between
> insults. This is not how I deal with people and I am sorry, but I
feel
> no need to pay attention to these members what-so-ever. This has
been
> done to celebrate a set of films I love, and this mess started by
the
> same 4 members has added a taint that I have not the time for. As I
> stated earlier- you have been cool and I appreciate your time.
>
> Feel free to post this if you want to give these individuals- hiding
> behind their computer screens- more fodder to abuse.
>
> I ask you though-what have they put out there for the world to
review.
> Nothing. Typical....
>
> You desrve respect because you put your art out for the masses to
enjoy
> and have taken the good and the bad.
>
> These others- until they put their money where their collective and
> offensive remarks emanate from- can continue to show their lack of
> grace. I care not. My AD will soldier on.
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.com
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 9:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

Now let's get back to more inane discussion of cricket and defunct punk bands.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 9:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo

Well, I tried to not just attack the project and let it be known why
I was so disappointed. Oh well.

.

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LOL. This second version makes more sense.

Anthony

True!

However, I enjoyed both versions.

Donna


From: "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac@...>
Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Oops...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:36:34 -0500

LOL. This second version makes more sense.

Anthony

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gp3085
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 10:22 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mighty World of Marvel issue 233 and Simian Scrolls issue 5

Contributors to the issues yet to be scanned can
also notify Dave, John or myself and those pages will be left out if
the contributor requests it.

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Finally had time to listen to that first part of the BrokenSea audio
track. I pretty much agree with most of the comments already posted:

- Taylor's voice not appropriately cast.
- Lawgiver's voice was excellent
- The sound engineering was top notch (by that I mean the effects were
clear and it seemed that these guys had the ability to create ambiance
that they wanted. The choices made however left something to be desired
in some areas, like the computer voice overwhelming the other dialog).
- Blatant overuse of "PC"!

I suspect that a lot of the changes these guys made was to try to
modernize POTA. Well intentioned, but hard for many of us to accept
given the long history we've had with the original material.

I must say that I am both sorry that Bill decided to split and not all
that surprised. I do agree that having said he wanted feedback, it would
have been nice to stick around to try to get whatever valid criticism we
had to offer. I truly believe that if he had taken some of that
criticism to heart, he could have used it to improve the product. Oh well.

Onto other things.

That last Uncle Manny was a blast Neil! (both versions). And what makes
it precious is that there is hint of truth in it.

So that bring us to confession time! Has anyone here every tried to
hide their love of POTA? Personally I've been very upfront about it to
friends (and I don't mean just friends that like SF. That's too easy.).
The people I work with know I love Apes. (I've had an art clipping or
two in my work cubicle.) And I've never been shy to let it be known.

But, there was a time when I was younger, OK MUCH younger, when I was
more secretive about openly displaying my fandom. I would only let
certain people know, if I thought that they would be receptive.
Nowadays, I couldn't get a rats patootie what other people may or may
not think about how I feel about it.

Any closet POTA fans here? Come clean. Fess up!

Dario

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 10:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo

Well, I tried to not just attack the project and let it be known why
I was so disappointed. Oh well.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
>
> -- "Feel free to post this if you want"
>
> So I have as I thought you folks at least deserved the chance to
read
> it.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Hollweg [billhollweg @...]
> Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 2:07 AM
> To: Neil T Foster
> Subject: Amigo
>
>
> About your most recent post. I am doing this off-list because I
respect
> you and your art and you have been nice and honest in your opinions
> about my POTA audio Drama good and bad.
>
> It's one thing to critique-but when the insults started being
hurled by
> the same group of 4 people, I found it offensive. I have not the
time
> for being insulted, nor do I have the time to forward the odious
email
> posts to the people working hard to make this audio drama so they
too
> can be insulted by childish behavior (not by you).
>
> The orgasms comment that you made was interesting.
>
> Are there good points made on POTA DG, yes- sandwiched in between
> insults. This is not how I deal with people and I am sorry, but I
feel
> no need to pay attention to these members what-so-ever. This has
been
> done to celebrate a set of films I love, and this mess started by
the
> same 4 members has added a taint that I have not the time for. As I
> stated earlier- you have been cool and I appreciate your time.
>
> Feel free to post this if you want to give these individuals- hiding
> behind their computer screens- more fodder to abuse.
>
> I ask you though-what have they put out there for the world to
review.
> Nothing. Typical....
>
> You desrve respect because you put your art out for the masses to
enjoy
> and have taken the good and the bad.
>
> These others- until they put their money where their collective and
> offensive remarks emanate from- can continue to show their lack of
> grace. I care not. My AD will soldier on.
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea. com
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.westlake films.co. uk
> Planet of the Apes
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 10:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

Thank you, Neil.

A job is not worth doing if it's not worth doing well. We shouldn't feel obligated to embrace every ill-conceived Apes project that comes along. We have a right to complain when crap is thrust upon us. We Apes fans are patient, but we've suffered the tyranny of the mediocre far too long in silence. 

Now let's get back to more inane discussion of cricket and defunct punk bands.

BTW, here's a drawing I did when I was seventeen (28 years ago):

Obviously I was still ignorant enough to be drawing on lined paper. I believe it was drawn to illustrate a point about apes' irises.

Anthony

On Mar 16, 2007, at 6:09 pm, Neil T Foster wrote:

-- "Feel free to post this if you want"

 

So I have as I thought you folks at least deserved the chance to read it.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hollweg [mailto:billhollweg @...]
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 2:07 AM
To: Neil T Foster
Subject: Amigo

About your most recent post. I am doing this off-list because I respect you and your art and you have been nice and honest in your opinions about my POTA audio Drama good and bad.

 

It's one thing to critique-but when the insults started being hurled by the same group of 4 people, I found it offensive. I have not the time for being insulted, nor do I have the time to forward the odious email posts to the people working hard to make this audio drama so they too can be insulted by childish behavior (not by you).

 

The orgasms comment that you made was interesting.

 

 Are there good points made on POTA DG, yes- sandwiched in between insults. This is not how I deal with people and I am sorry, but I feel no need to pay attention to these members what-so-ever. This has been done to celebrate a set of films I love, and this mess started by the same 4 members has added a taint that I have not the time for. As I stated earlier- you have been cool and I appreciate your time.

 

Feel free to post this if you want to give these individuals- hiding behind their computer screens- more fodder to abuse.

 

I ask you though-what have they put out there for the world to review. Nothing . Typical.... 

 

You desrve respect because you put your art out for the masses to enjoy and have taken the good and the bad.

 

These others- until they put their money where their collective and offensive remarks emanate from- can continue to show their lack of grace. I care not. My AD will soldier on.

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
     Will Slay...
        Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio

www.brokensea. com
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.westlake films.co. uk
Planet of the Apes
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 11:02 AM
To: 'PotaDG'
Subject: [PotaDG] Uncle Manny's Musings #28

Here's Manny again. A bit naughty this one and it may upset a few folks...

 

...but what the f**k he's in one of those moods today.;-)

 

 

Neil

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 10:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Mighty World of Marvel issue 233 and Simian Scrolls issue 5

-- Thanks for the info Greg, I appreciate that. It gives me something to seriously think about though.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of gp3085
Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 10:22 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mighty World of Marvel issue 233 and Simian Scrolls issue 5

Contributors to the issues yet to be scanned can
also notify Dave, John or myself and those pages will be left out if
the contributor requests it.

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 2:20 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:40:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

I think they are expensive.

 

Michael

 

You almost feel it should be ceramic for that much.

 

 

 

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Michael

I enjoyed reading "Going Home" and enjoyed the artwork.

Donna

>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo
>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:17:53 +1100
>
>Yeah - there were a few harsh comments but there was certainly a lot of
>critical commentary too.
>
>None as harsh as what I copped for "Going Home"!\
>
>Michael
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
>John
>Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 10:27 AM
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo
>
>
>
>Well, I tried to not just attack the project and let it be known why
>I was so disappointed. Oh well.
>
>--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Neil T
>Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > -- "Feel free to post this if you want"
> >
> > So I have as I thought you folks at least deserved the chance to
>read
> > it.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Hollweg [billhollweg@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 2:07 AM
> > To: Neil T Foster
> > Subject: Amigo
> >
> >
> > About your most recent post. I am doing this off-list because I
>respect
> > you and your art and you have been nice and honest in your opinions
> > about my POTA audio Drama good and bad.
> >
> > It's one thing to critique-but when the insults started being
>hurled by
> > the same group of 4 people, I found it offensive. I have not the
>time
> > for being insulted, nor do I have the time to forward the odious
>email
> > posts to the people working hard to make this audio drama so they
>too
> > can be insulted by childish behavior (not by you).
> >
> > The orgasms comment that you made was interesting.
> >
> > Are there good points made on POTA DG, yes- sandwiched in between
> > insults. This is not how I deal with people and I am sorry, but I
>feel
> > no need to pay attention to these members what-so-ever. This has
>been
> > done to celebrate a set of films I love, and this mess started by
>the
> > same 4 members has added a taint that I have not the time for. As I
> > stated earlier- you have been cool and I appreciate your time.
> >
> > Feel free to post this if you want to give these individuals- hiding
> > behind their computer screens- more fodder to abuse.
> >
> > I ask you though-what have they put out there for the world to
>review.
> > Nothing. Typical....
> >
> > You desrve respect because you put your art out for the masses to
>enjoy
> > and have taken the good and the bad.
> >
> > These others- until they put their money where their collective and
> > offensive remarks emanate from- can continue to show their lack of
> > grace. I care not. My AD will soldier on.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea.com
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.westlake <http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk > films.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> >
>
>
>
>
>--
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DONNA SPIRES
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 1:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo

Michael

I enjoyed reading "Going Home" and enjoyed the artwork.

Donna

>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@cyberone. com.au>
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
>To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com>
>Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo
>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:17:53 +1100
>
>Yeah - there were a few harsh comments but there was certainly a lot of
>critical commentary too.
>
>None as harsh as what I copped for "Going Home"!\
>
>Michael
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
>John
>Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 10:27 AM
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
>Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo
>
>
>
>Well, I tried to not just attack the project and let it be known why
>I was so disappointed. Oh well.
>
>--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com, "Neil T
>Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
> >
> > -- "Feel free to post this if you want"
> >
> > So I have as I thought you folks at least deserved the chance to
>read
> > it.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Hollweg [billhollweg @...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 2:07 AM
> > To: Neil T Foster
> > Subject: Amigo
> >
> >
> > About your most recent post. I am doing this off-list because I
>respect
> > you and your art and you have been nice and honest in your opinions
> > about my POTA audio Drama good and bad.
> >
> > It's one thing to critique-but when the insults started being
>hurled by
> > the same group of 4 people, I found it offensive. I have not the
>time
> > for being insulted, nor do I have the time to forward the odious
>email
> > posts to the people working hard to make this audio drama so they
>too
> > can be insulted by childish behavior (not by you).
> >
> > The orgasms comment that you made was interesting.
> >
> > Are there good points made on POTA DG, yes- sandwiched in between
> > insults. This is not how I deal with people and I am sorry, but I
>feel
> > no need to pay attention to these members what-so-ever. This has
>been
> > done to celebrate a set of films I love, and this mess started by
>the
> > same 4 members has added a taint that I have not the time for. As I
> > stated earlier- you have been cool and I appreciate your time.
> >
> > Feel free to post this if you want to give these individuals- hiding
> > behind their computer screens- more fodder to abuse.
> >
> > I ask you though-what have they put out there for the world to
>review.
> > Nothing. Typical....
> >
> > You desrve respect because you put your art out for the masses to
>enjoy
> > and have taken the good and the bad.
> >
> > These others- until they put their money where their collective and
> > offensive remarks emanate from- can continue to show their lack of
> > grace. I care not. My AD will soldier on.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea. com
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.westlake <http://www.westlake films.co. uk> films.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> >
>
>
>
>
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Yep! ;)

Donna

From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:51:13 +1100

Cool - I may hang around then!

The story kicked the artwork's ass right? :)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
DONNA SPIRES
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 1:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo


Michael

I enjoyed reading "Going Home" and enjoyed the artwork.

Donna

>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo
>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:17:53 +1100
>
>Yeah - there were a few harsh comments but there was certainly a lot of
>critical commentary too.
>
>None as harsh as what I copped for "Going Home"!\
>
>Michael
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
>John
>Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 10:27 AM
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Re: FW: Amigo
>
>
>
>Well, I tried to not just attack the project and let it be known why
>I was so disappointed. Oh well.
>
>--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Neil T
>Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > -- "Feel free to post this if you want"
> >
> > So I have as I thought you folks at least deserved the chance to
>read
> > it.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Hollweg [billhollweg@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 2:07 AM
> > To: Neil T Foster
> > Subject: Amigo
> >
> >
> > About your most recent post. I am doing this off-list because I
>respect
> > you and your art and you have been nice and honest in your opinions
> > about my POTA audio Drama good and bad.
> >
> > It's one thing to critique-but when the insults started being
>hurled by
> > the same group of 4 people, I found it offensive. I have not the
>time
> > for being insulted, nor do I have the time to forward the odious
>email
> > posts to the people working hard to make this audio drama so they
>too
> > can be insulted by childish behavior (not by you).
> >
> > The orgasms comment that you made was interesting.
> >
> > Are there good points made on POTA DG, yes- sandwiched in between
> > insults. This is not how I deal with people and I am sorry, but I
>feel
> > no need to pay attention to these members what-so-ever. This has
>been
> > done to celebrate a set of films I love, and this mess started by
>the
> > same 4 members has added a taint that I have not the time for. As I
> > stated earlier- you have been cool and I appreciate your time.
> >
> > Feel free to post this if you want to give these individuals- hiding
> > behind their computer screens- more fodder to abuse.
> >
> > I ask you though-what have they put out there for the world to
>review.
> > Nothing. Typical....
> >
> > You desrve respect because you put your art out for the masses to
>enjoy
> > and have taken the good and the bad.
> >
> > These others- until they put their money where their collective and
> > offensive remarks emanate from- can continue to show their lack of
> > grace. I care not. My AD will soldier on.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Have Sword...
> > Will Slay...
> > Barbarian in need of Ale...
> > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> > Bill Hollweg
> > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> > www.brokensea.com
> > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> > http://www.westlake <http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk > films.co.uk
> > Planet of the Apes
> > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> >
>
>
>
>
>--
>

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In a message dated 3/16/2007 6:29:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

Well, I tried to not just attack the project and let it be known why
I was so disappointed. Oh well.

 

Had it just been a cheesemo thing like the Powerbook Records

I would have been fine with it.  But that was a travesty.  There

are enough lame things associated with POTA without making

more of them.  I could understand if he just couldn't find enough

actors to cast a decent Taylor from.  But to make himself that

character?  Especially with his voice -- Not that the Powerbook

guy was anything like Taylor -- but it was fingernails on a chalkboard.

 

 

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In a message dated 3/16/2007 6:48:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, abmac@... writes:

We Apes fans are patient, but we've suffered the tyranny of the mediocre far too long in silence. 

Now let's get back to more inane discussion of cricket and defunct punk bands.

 

Remember, Burton was a POTA fan too!!!

That didn't save his project from mediocrity.

Speaking of punk bands . . . my gals in

Gito Gito Hustler were kickin' it tonight!

If you like Japanese Girl Groups, do

yourself a favor and check 'em out.

They rock the roof off the joint.

They're playing SXSW this

weekend.  If you missed

the Dallas show, you

can catch 'em in

Austin, 3/17/07

 

Happy St. Pat's!

 

 

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In a message dated 3/16/2007 8:55:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, darios@... writes:

I must say that I am both sorry that Bill decided to split and not all
that surprised. I do agree that having said he wanted feedback, it would
have been nice to stick around to try to get whatever valid criticism we
had to offer. I truly believe that if he had taken some of that
criticism to heart, he could have used it to improve the product. Oh well.

 

 

"You can't polish a turd, Beavis."

 

 ~~~Butthead of Beavis & Butthead~~~~

 

 

 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 9:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

BTW, here's a drawing I did when I was seventeen (28 years ago):

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 11:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Uncle Dario's musings

So that bring us to confession time! Has anyone here every tried to
hide their love of POTA?

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 7:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Uncle Dario's musings

"You can't polish a turd, Beavis."

 

 ~~~Butthead of Beavis & Butthead~~~~

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In a message dated 3/17/2007 4:14:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Hey that's a certain POTA writer's favourite saying, always wondered where he got it from!

 

Neil

 

 

I'm sure it was around long before B & B.

I just like the way he says it.

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Now see, that's funnny!

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>
> Hello,
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 6:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

 my gals in

Gito Gito Hustler were kickin' it tonight!

If you like Japanese Girl Groups, do

yourself a favor and check 'em out.

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In a message dated 3/17/2007 4:28:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- I liked that Japanese girl group in Kill Bill. Was that a real group or just made up for that movie?

 

Neil

 

 

That's a real Japanese Girl Group. 

The 5,6,7,8's

He was in Japan promoting Pulp Fiction.

And he went to a Japanese boutique to

buy some clothes before he left.  And they

were on the sound system.  So he asked

the clerk, "Who is this?"  And he said,

'Oh, that's the 5,6,7,8's.  And he asked

is he could have the CD.  And the clerk

said it was the sores copy.  He could

just buy one at any music shop.  But

he said he was leaving the country in

a few hours and he'd forget them and

never have another chance.  So the

clerk called the manager on the

phone, and Tarantino explained the

situation and the manage let him

buy the stores copy.  That's how

they got to be the band in Pulp

Fiction.  Now they're the back-

ground music in the Vonage

commercial.  Vonage is nearly

impossible to cancel by the way.

And not as good as a real phone.

 

 

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Has anyone seen the Simian episode of Monkey?

Very POTA.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 7:43 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

That's a real Japanese Girl Group. 

The 5,6,7,8's

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 7:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

In a message dated 3/16/2007 6:48:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, abmac@... writes:

We Apes fans are patient, but we've suffered the tyranny of the mediocre far too long in silence. 

Now let's get back to more inane discussion of cricket and defunct punk bands.

 

Remember, Burton was a POTA fan too!!!

That didn't save his project from mediocrity.

.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 8:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Uncle Dario's musings

In a message dated 3/16/2007 8:55:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, darios@... writes:

I must say that I am both sorry that Bill decided to split and not all
that surprised. I do agree that having said he wanted feedback, it would
have been nice to stick around to try to get whatever valid criticism we
had to offer. I truly believe that if he had taken some of that
criticism to heart, he could have used it to improve the product. Oh well.

 

 

"You can't polish a turd, Beavis."

 

 ~~~Butthead of Beavis & Butthead~~~~

 

 

 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 8:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Monkey

    

Has anyone seen the Simian episode of Monkey?

Very POTA.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 8:09 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Uncle Dario's musings

-- Yes there was a period in my late teens when I was trying to be a cool art student that I was actually embarrassed to for it to be known that I was mad about POTA. Shame on me!

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 11:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Uncle Dario's musings

So that bring us to confession time! Has anyone here every tried to
hide their love of POTA?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 8:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

-- Thanks for that T. Nice little story that and it just goes to show that sometimes the way things happen is down to pure luck, or is that fate?

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 7:43 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

That's a real Japanese Girl Group. 

The 5,6,7,8's

.

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Everyone I know knows I'm an Ape-freak.....It's kind
of cool cause if they hear anything about PoTA they
tell it to me all excited..( I usually know already!)
However I'm a bit embarrassed to show them the
"aperoom'...I have to set it up that I'm obsessed blah
blah then open the door and the "holy shit" reaction
usually turns into "this is so cool"!

Tim
--- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

> So that bring us to confession time! Has anyone
> here every tried to
> hide their love of POTA? Personally I've been very
> upfront about it to
> friends (and I don't mean just friends that like SF.
> That's too easy.).
> The people I work with know I love Apes. (I've had
> an art clipping or
> two in my work cubicle.) And I've never been shy to
> let it be known.
>
> But, there was a time when I was younger, OK MUCH
> younger, when I was
> more secretive about openly displaying my fandom. I
> would only let
> certain people know, if I thought that they would be
> receptive.
> Nowadays, I couldn't get a rats patootie what other
> people may or may
> not think about how I feel about it.
>
> Any closet POTA fans here? Come clean. Fess up!
>
> Dario
>
>

Attachments :

It's pretty damn funny~!!!

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Ha!
>
> You know this joke originally had the punch line:
>
> "He plays cricket for England but I was just too
> embarrassed to say!"
>
> Cheeky bugger.
>
> MIchael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Neil T Foster
> Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 11:02 AM
> To: 'PotaDG'
> Subject: [PotaDG] Uncle Manny's Musings #28
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's Manny again. A bit naughty this one and it
> may upset a few folks...
>
> ...but what the f**k he's in one of those moods
> today.;-)
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>

it IS good!

Tim

--- Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> -- Actually that is quite good Anthony. Do you still
> draw these days?
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Anthony B. McElveen
> Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 9:47 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo
>
>
> BTW, here's a drawing I did when I was seventeen (28
> years ago):
>
>

I love it too.

Donna

>From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo
>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>it IS good!
>
>Tim
>
>--- Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> > -- Actually that is quite good Anthony. Do you still
> > draw these days?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Anthony B. McElveen
> > Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 9:47 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo
> >
> >
> > BTW, here's a drawing I did when I was seventeen (28
> > years ago):
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 8:05 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] FW: Amigo

Or divine intervention?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 7:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Fan

Yeah - but define "fan"!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 7:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Fan

Yeah - but define "fan"!

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In a message dated 3/17/2007 4:59:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

You mean Monkey as in MONKEY MAGIC?

 

No, I don't think so.

I'm not sure what it's called.

It's on in between Power Puff Girls,

I think.  Anyway, they just call him

Monkey.  He's a Superhero Monkey.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 6:30 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Monkey

In a message dated 3/17/2007 4:59:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

You mean Monkey as in MONKEY MAGIC?

 

No, I don't think so.

I'm not sure what it's called.

It's on in between Power Puff Girls,

I think.  Anyway, they just call him

Monkey.  He's a Superhero Monkey.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , TZer0@... wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 3/15/2007 4:08:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> I wonder if we could talk them into doing a LR / POTA crossover
>
>
>
> I wonder if they could be talked out of it.

-------------------------------------------------------------

*** As far as I'm concerned, the only connection between POTA and
LOGAN'S RUN is Taylor's advice to Lucius: "Remember, never trust
anybody over thirty." In the movie version of LOGAN'S RUN, they've
solved that Generation Gap problem... by "terminating" anybody older
than 30 years of age!

But as for any crossover, those damn cats just rule it out. Whether
you're a Circular Timeliner or a Two-Timeliner advocate, ALL the dogs
and cats die. Cornelius and Zira tell Hasslein, in 1973, that their
prehistory began with the plague that killed all the dogs and cats,
prompting the humans to take apes as pets. Even if you want to
believe that Caesar "changed" things in an Altered Timeline, he
CANNOT have changed the fate of the dogs and cats, since -- as
Armando told him -- "they all died, 8 years ago" when they they were
at the Pet Memorial.

Yeah yeah, I know... Arno's damn dog... but I'm with LordT on this
one. Besides, what kind of adventure could there be, with Logan 5
living in the late 23rd Century, a bit less than half the way between
the time of Caesar and the time when the Lawgiver teaches his outdoor
class of kids about him? From the "Year of the City 2274" until the
date "2670 A.D." there are nearly 400 years -- and no indication that
Logan 5 and his fellow City-zens ever made much of an impact on that
community of Post-Apocalypse apes and humans.

Patrick

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Has anyone seen the Simian episode of Monkey?
Very POTA.

What's "Monkey" and where's it at?

-- Rory


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In a message dated 3/17/2007 4:59:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

You mean Monkey as in MONKEY MAGIC?

No, I don't think so.
I'm not sure what it's called.
It's on in between Power Puff Girls,
I think.  Anyway, they just call him
Monkey.  He's a Superhero Monkey.


What are you doing watching "Power Puff Girls," T?

-- Rory


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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, 19 March 2007 4:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Monkey

No, I don't think so.
I'm not sure what it's called.
It's on in between Power Puff Girls,
I think.  Anyway, they just call him
Monkey.  He's a Superhero Monkey.


What are you doing watching "Power Puff Girls," T?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 11:41 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Whether you're a Circular Timeliner or a Two-Timeliner advocate, ALL the dogs and cats die. Cornelius and Zira tell Hasslein, in 1973, that their
prehistory began with the plague that killed all the dogs and cats,
prompting the humans to take apes as pets. Even if you want to
believe that Caesar "changed" things in an Altered Timeline, he
CANNOT have changed the fate of the dogs and cats, since -- as
Armando told him -- "they all died, 8 years ago" when they they were
at the Pet Memorial.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Monday, 19 March 2007 8:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Spam Alert: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

-- Actually I remember that you yourself in the past have put up some sort of scenario where some dogs and cats could have survived. Something about them being on  a space station and then being brought back to Earth later or something like that if I am remembering correctly?

 

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilto n
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 11:41 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Whether you're a Circular Timeliner or a Two-Timeliner advocate, ALL the dogs and cats die. Cornelius and Zira tell Hasslein, in 1973, that their
prehistory began with the plague that killed all the dogs and cats,
prompting the humans to take apes as pets. Even if you want to
believe that Caesar "changed" things in an Altered Timeline, he
CANNOT have changed the fate of the dogs and cats, since -- as
Armando told him -- "they all died, 8 years ago" when they they were
at the Pet Memorial.

.

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In a message dated 3/18/2007 10:06:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Frankly I think the whole cats and dogs explanation is very poor.

 

They should have said the apes were genetically enhanced because they were about to become extinct, and the military saw some use for them so they started manipulating their genes.

 

That's the "POTA BEGINS" explanation anyway.  The dumb chimps wandering around, getting run over are the poor end of the experiments.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Monday, 19 March 2007 8:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Spam Alert: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

-- Actually I remember that you yourself in the past have put up some sort of scenario where some dogs and cats could have survived. Something about them being on  a space station and then being brought back to Earth later or something like that if I am remembering correctly?

 

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilto n
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 11:41 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

Whether you're a Circular Timeliner or a Two-Timeliner advocate, ALL the dogs and cats die. Cornelius and Zira tell Hasslein, in 1973, that their
prehistory began with the plague that killed all the dogs and cats,
prompting the humans to take apes as pets. Even if you want to
believe that Caesar "changed" things in an Altered Timeline, he
CANNOT have changed the fate of the dogs and cats, since -- as
Armando told him -- "they all died, 8 years ago" when they they were
at the Pet Memorial.

.

***************

I just got back from a lovely cat bon-fire....

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That would make more sense.

Donna

>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [PotaDG] Raining cats and dogs!
>Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:04:21 +1100
>
>Frankly I think the whole cats and dogs explanation is very poor.
>
>They should have said the apes were genetically enhanced because they were
>about to become extinct, and the military saw some use for them so they
>started manipulating their genes.
>
>That's the "POTA BEGINS" explanation anyway. The dumb chimps wandering
>around, getting run over are the poor end of the experiments.
>
>Michael
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
>Neil T Foster
>Sent: Monday, 19 March 2007 8:42 AM
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Spam Alert: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready
>for download
>
>
>
>
>
>-- Actually I remember that you yourself in the past have put up some sort
>of scenario where some dogs and cats could have survived. Something about
>them being on a space station and then being brought back to Earth later
>or
>something like that if I am remembering correctly?
>
>Neil
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
>patrickmichaeltilton
>Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 11:41 PM
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download
>
>
>
>Whether you're a Circular Timeliner or a Two-Timeliner advocate, ALL the
>dogs and cats die. Cornelius and Zira tell Hasslein, in 1973, that their
>prehistory began with the plague that killed all the dogs and cats,
>prompting the humans to take apes as pets. Even if you want to
>believe that Caesar "changed" things in an Altered Timeline, he
>CANNOT have changed the fate of the dogs and cats, since -- as
>Armando told him -- "they all died, 8 years ago" when they they were
>at the Pet Memorial.
>
>
>.
>Web Bug from
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>
>
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>
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>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2007 11:41 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Part 2 of the POTA Audio Drama ready for download

But as for any crossover, those damn cats just rule it out. Whether
you're a Circular Timeliner or a Two-Timeliner advocate, ALL the dogs
and cats die. Cornelius and Zira tell Hasslein, in 1973, that their
prehistory began with the plague that killed all the dogs and cats,
prompting the humans to take apes as pets. Even if you want to
believe that Caesar "changed" things in an Altered Timeline, he
CANNOT have changed the fate of the dogs and cats, since -- as
Armando told him -- "they all died, 8 years ago" when they they were
at the Pet Memorial.

Yeah yeah, I know... Arno's damn dog...

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