.html I've listened to the MONKEY PLANET radio show from Radio 4, and I've listened to that audio version of "planet" (Yes, it's in small print, as it is not PLANET!)...

Either way, the MONKEY PLANET audio, at a mere 65minutes give or take is superior... It's simplicity really works... One guy alone in a studio conveys more than a cast and overused sound effects could ever hope for...

The film PLANET is still far and away better than the Boulle book... BUT, Boulle's book, in it's simple radio reading, tops the audio version of "planet"......


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But I think that's all pretty unlikely as they didn't have any type
of story arc running through the series.

*** Actually, there was a small one:The magnetic disc from the ship...
Had the series gone on, they may have gotten back to it (as it had just disappeared after a couple episodes...)

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>
> In a message dated 4/13/2007 5:36:24 AM Central Daylight Time,
> neilmoxham@... writes:
>
>
> > But I think that's all pretty unlikely as they didn't have any type
> > of story arc running through the series.
> >
> > *** Actually, there was a small one:The magnetic disc from the

ship...

> > Had the series gone on, they may have gotten back to it (as it had

just

> > disappeared after a couple episodes...)
>

Well OK, I guess they must have had the magnetic disc as a way-out to
eventually finish the series if it had run it's course. But for example
compared to 'Return..', which followed a definite plot.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/14/2007 11:40:30 AM Central Daylight Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
> >
> > At the end of "PLANET", Dr. Zaius tells Taylor: "All my life I've
> > awaited your coming, and dreaded it -- like Death itself!" Taylor
> > refers to him as the "Guardian of the Terrible Secret". The secret
> > Zaius kept had to have been told to him fairly soon after he became
> > enough of a responsible adult to have it entrusted to him -- he
> > says "ALL MY LIFE" after all. Who might have known the secret BEFORE
> > he learned it? Who entrusted him with that secret?
> >
>
> *** You as well as I know that the line Zaius says is in reference to having
> awaited the coming of an INTELLIGENT HUMAN, not Taylor... I'm sure there are
> many apes who "all their lives" feared an intelligent human because they'd
> think he could turn their world upside down... And, the "Terrible Secret" in
> question is simply this: Man once dominated the world,and it was up to Zaius, as
> Minister of Science (AND Chief Defender of the Faith) to make sure that secret
> remained just that, a secret... The secret was NOT that "someday a human named
> Taylor" will arrive here"...
>
> PLANET was not written with a sequel in mind... It's not like Wilson sat
> there thinking "Hmmm, I need to be clever here and drop in a line that can be
> interpreted to say that Taylor's arrival was known..." It was not intended in
> PLANET, and it's not even hinted at, no matter how subtly, in anything that came
> later

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*** Of course I know -- as should we all -- that "PLANET" wasn't written with a sequel in mind, and all that. But the appearance of first Landon (off-screen, getting lobotomized by a vet working under Zaius' supervision) and then 'Bright-Eyes'/Taylor was not the mere appearance of an "intelligent human"... it coincided with the arrival of a SPACESHIP. And it wasn't merely the knowledge that humans once were intelligent and had dominated the Apes... it was the fact that Man had waged a NUCLEAR WAR that turned a "paradise" into a desolate wasteland that necessitated the keeping of the Terrible Secret.

Watch the scene where Zaius discovers the paper airplane again. Cornelius had been wowed by this 'impossible' thing: "Flight is a scientific impossibility!".... and then Taylor's quickly whipped-up paper toy goes flyin' across the room.

When Zaius finds it and is told by Zira that it's "a toy... it floats on the air... Try it!" he gets angry: "Nonsense!" he exclaims, then crumples it up and drops it on the floor.

Incidentally, Mr. Longmire's parody version of "PLANET" has a hilarious version of this scene, but I digress.

Later, at Taylor's Tribunal/Hearing, his written testimony mentions that he is "an explorer in space" and that his "ship from Outer Space" had landed in the inland sea in their Eastern desert.

Later, Zaius tells him: "All my life I've awaited YOUR COMING, and dreaded it--like Death itself!"

Taylor came there in a SPACESHIP, the very notion of which first produced in Zaius a feeling of anger, an anger born of his fear. Everything he does to Taylor, or threatens to do, he does out of fear --remember that!

What is he afraid of, Cougar?

Sure, he knows that intelligent humans once destroyed their own civilization through the misuse of their "wisdom" (their scientific knowledge which created their nuclear technology) and their "idiocy"--their warlike nature.

I think Zaius hopes that Taylor is not really from Outer Space (i.e. from their same world yet from another time, when Man had learned how to fly relativistically through the Space-Time Continuum). He needs to believe that Taylor is merely an intelligent man from "another jungle beyond the Forbidden Zone"... but that is really only wishful thinking. He tries to threaten Taylor with emasculation and lobotomization in order to force him to tell him what he yearns to be "true" -- that Taylor did not fly through Outer Space to their world in a spaceship.

Maybe Zaius could've been of the opinion that the paper "toy" represented a mere AIRPLANE... that Taylor is an intelligent human from some other part of the planet -- a part where there are still airplanes and aerospace technologies at work.

But Taylor's written testimony at the Tribunal reveals that that "toy" must have been meant to represent the SPACESHIP in which Taylor and Landon had arrived. Of course, it's possible -- even probable -- that Zaius knew the "toy" represented a spaceship even earlier... if , that is, he had interrogated Landon and been told (truthfully) by him that he was an astronaut, one of three who had been hunted down, etc etc.

I can imagine, too, Zaius getting angry and hysterical whilst questioning Landon, insisting that he "admit" that he had come from that same hypothetical "jungle beyond the Forbidden Zone" and all that.

When they made "PLANET" they had no idea that a sequel would be made. Sure. And when they made "BENEATH" they probably didn't expect a 3rd film to be made... though I suspect that Paul Dehn -- even then -- might've subconsciously been planning on something. The protagonist of the last 2 films -- the pivotal character seen in "ESCAPE" as a Christ-like, Moses-like infant threatened by the would-be Pharaoh/Herod, Hasslein -- just happens to be the son of Zira and Cornelius... an already-conceived character in "BENEATH": "... at least our child, when it's born, won't be breast-fed on bile!"

Sure, Serling and Wilson intended Zaius' line -- "All my life I've awaited your coming and dreaded it, like Death itself!" -- was probably meant to reference his general fear in the resurgence of human intelligence, which he associates historically with human destructiveness.

But if we are to accept the 4 sequel films as part of a POTA "canon", then it behooves us to rethink everything that's in the films -- including the 1st film, even though it was written as a stand-alone work unencumbered by the notions introduced by the sequels (telepathic mutants... the Doomsday Bomb... the "Secret Scrolls" kept hidden from the masses... the "parent apes" of the "Savior" Ape-King CAESAR coming "from Earth's own future"...).

I know that there are those who want (perhaps need ) to believe that Caesar's actions somehow changed the Future -- something that Armando believed to be impossible because the Future is under the sway of "destiny"... "the unalterable will of God". But if we examine the implications of the Circular Timeline theory -- which Dehn endorsed, as you know -- then it behooves us to ask whether or not Zaius (in "PLANET") was aware of the contents of the scroll from which the "nice" Lawgiver (portrayed by John Huston) recited in the year A.D. 2670. For, if Zaius did know the contents of that scroll, he couldn't help but believe that he had been born at a time when the calendar would soon run out. Caesar, Virgil, and MacDonald had heard (from the "ghost" of Caesar's mother) that the destruction of Earth which she had viewed from the windows of a spaceship would transpire in the year 3950. Zaius would be one of the few who would know what the year was according to the human Gregorian Calendar (which undoubtedly would not still be used by the Ape civilization). He would know, as the year 3950 approached, that if that old scroll really were  true, then he would be alive when the world would be destroyed.

When the "parent apes" of the Ape-King CAESAR would be alive.

When a "spaceship" would arrive in which those talking "parent apes" would eventually fly.

Zaius would, then, be on-the-lookout for a husband-and-wife pair of apes, presumably CHIMPANZEES if we assume that the old scroll specified the "race" to which Caesar, Lisa, and their murdered heir Cornelius belonged (i.e. not Orangutan nor Gorilla, but Chimpanzee). The story told in that scroll involves the murder of the royal Heir by an ape named "Aldo" and it seems probable (definite , really) that the sundered history of the Gorillas from the Chimp-Orangutan-Human line would pinpoint Aldo as being a gorilla, posterity having blamed all gorillas for the sins of one gorilla.

Zaius, then, would also have kept his eyes open for the appearance of any chimpanzee named CAESAR or CORNELIUS. The mention of those male ape names in that scroll would flag any similarly named chimp in the 3940's and 3950's.

When does Zaius realize that the archaeologist CORNELIUS may be -- and probably is -- one of the "parent apes" mentioned in the scroll? If he suspected Cornelius to fit the bill, he would do so on the presumption that the Ape-King CAESAR had named his ill-starred heir after the child's grandfather, his own father.

But as long as Cornelius remains a bachelor, there's no real threat, at least from him. And no self-respecting ape would think of engaging in premarital sex, now... would he? Would she?

The events of "ESCAPE" -- from the perspective of the time-traveling Ape-onauts -- take place nowhere near 9 months after the events of "PLANET". Yet Zira had to have been pregnant with 'Milo'/Caesar well before she and Cornelius actually got married in that inter-film timeframe: Cornelius was Zira's fiancee in "PLANET" and yet in "BENEATH" she is his "headstrong WIFE", having become his "lawfully-wedded wife " in the interim.

When does Zaius acquire the knowledge that Zira -- that pain-in-the-ass UNMARRIED heretic -- is "with child"???

Sometime AFTER the events of "PLANET"... during which time he does an about-face in his relationship with Cornelius and Zira. In "PLANET" he went out of his way to maneuver Cornelius into confessing to having visited the Forbidden Zone the previous year -- Zaius used Taylor so that he and the Tribunal could "expose Zira and Cornelius" and remove them as a threat. And make no mistake: they were a threat, in his mind, well before the appearance of Taylor and Landon.

But they'd not been married at that crisis time. And, Zaius probably thought that Zira and Cornelius -- being unmarried -- had not consummated their romantic feelings for each other yet. Remember that bit in "PLANET" where Cornelius says (hint hint), "Do you have to work tonight?... Neither do I..."? They then look around quickly to see if anybody's watching and -- when the coast is clear -- they go SMOOCH SMOOCH SMOOCH. "Oh, Cornelius...!"

They were violating a taboo against public displays of affection. It reminds me of a joke I heard in the movie "ROB ROY": Why don't Puritans shag standing up? Answer: It might lead to dancing!

Long before Cornelius violated the "ancient taboo" regarding venturing out into the Forbidden Zone, I'll bet he and Zira were gettin' frisky with each other, violating the "public kissing" taboo when nobody's watching... and violating the No-Sex-Before-Marriage law. And, about half a year after his first trip into the Forbidden Zone -- also half a year prior to the appearance of 'Bright-Eyes' -- he got Zira knocked up. All during the events of "PLANET" his fiancee was pregnant, and nobody knew it but her (and, maybe, him -- if she told him, that is).

Why is Zaius so (relatively) genial to them during the events of "BENEATH"? At the end of "PLANET" he had not only destroyed the evidence in the Cave, but he had gotten his gorilla thugs to "silence" Cornelius, which he does "with no pleasure". There's every reason to believe that Cornelius and Zira -- and Lucius, too -- knowing what they know, would have nothing to lose by trying to whip up public sympathy by bellowing out the truth of what Zaius did to their Cave evidence and what he'd admitted to (i.e. having "always known about Man" being a once-dominant species).

If no sequels had ever been made, what future would the audience reasonably expect for those three heretical chimps? If it had merely been a matter of the charge of heresy, they'd have gotten "two years" of imprisonment. But that was before Cornelius had shown him the artifacts in the Cave (and who knows whether or not Cornelius hadn't brought some artifacts back home to Ape City in secret a year before?). That was also before Taylor left on horseback and Zaius could re-assert his authority and go back on his promise to drop the charges and let them off.

Those three chimpanzees would, in all probability, have been either imprisoned incommunicado -- to prevent them from divulging the "Terrible Secret" to any sympathizers in the Ape community -- especially the chimpanzee population... or, most probably, they would be killed.

To keep the "Terrible Secret". For reasons of "National Security". And, too, for Zaius' personal security: if there should ever be a public trial, then he would be subject to incrimination for destroying evidence that could've exonerated the defendants, there being three witnesses who would make the accusation. A court-authorized trip back to the Cave might not reveal the presence of an incriminating Talking Human Doll... but it would reveal traces of the explosives Marcus used to blow up whatever had been in that Cave.

Zaius, to protect the Future, to protect their society... to protect himself... would have to have Zira, Cornelius, and Lucius silenced.

Killed.

But he doesn't do that, even though he'd had every reason he needed to do so -- as well as the perfect opportunity to do it... Zaius could've had them killed there in the Forbidden Zone, at the Cave-site. And nobody would know except Marcus and his gorilla troopers. And there's every reason to believe that these particular gorillas accompanied Zaius not only because he needed their help, but because they could be trusted to keep their mouths shut. They were probably members of the Hunt Club, some of whom had to have discovered Landon's ability to speak... prior to informing Zaius about it, which caused him to go out of his way to inspect the newly-captured humans in Zira's lab.

Why doesn't Zaius have them killed? The best reason, in my opinion, is because he learns right then and there that Zira -- unmarried Zira -- is pregnant.

Legally, she might be considered a criminal for engaging in sexual intercourse prior to marriage, and if she were to give birth to a baby out-of-wedlock that child would be considered an 'illegitimate', bastard child.

But... an INNOCENT child, nonetheless.

It is Zaius' belief that his actions are a way of preserving the innocence of the Apes -- through enforced ignorance -- that keeps him going, that justifies himself.

But what justification could there be if he were to do the horridly necessary thing... killing three heretics who know too much... and also kill an unborn, innocent child?

That, I think, is one thing that Zaius could not bring himself to do. Once he learned that Zira was pregnant, he had to let her live. And he would be a bastard himself if he were to kill the child's father, so he has to let Cornelius live, too.

It's for this reason that Zaius re-assesses the situation regarding these heretic chimps.

And... knowing that following the frightening appearance of intelligent, talking humans who claim to have come to their world in "a ship from Outer Space"... knowing that Zira is pregnant... that a chimp named CORNELIUS is the unborn baby's father... perhaps Zaius now begins to feel sure, in his gut, that they indeed must be the "parent apes" written of in that ancient scroll, a text which predates the official "Sacred Scrolls" by at least 85 years (3955 minus 2670, some 85 years before 2755, which is "Twelve Hundred years ago" from the year in which the events of the first two films transpire), referencing events dating back to the years 1973, 1991, and 2018 ("ESCAPE", "CONQUEST", and "BATTLE", respectively).

Perhaps then, Zaius would conclude that the voice of Caesar's "ghostly" mother had been quoted incompletely: that the year she mentions, "Thirty-Nine Fifty," was cut-off, or the text later incompletely quoted, so that the true year could've been ANY year from 3950 to 3959.

He knows Zira's pregnant, but he does not know that she's pregnant with a MALE child. Maybe she's pregnant with a daughter? Maybe the fated flight of the Ape-onauts won't happen for another couple years... in 3956... 3957... 3958... or 3959. Had Caesar and Virgil heard her voice say "Thirty-Nine Fifty-FIVE " then there would be no ambiguity. But Zaius had no way of knowing that Hasslein recorded her voice saying "Thirty-Nine... Fifty... something..." and that the "something " had not been preserved on the tapes Caesar and Virgil saw and heard. Caesar, based on his mother's taped conversation, asserts that "in THIRTY-NINE FIFTY apes will destroy the Earth!" -- and all posterity afterwards, from "BATTLE" to "PLANET", would mistakenly anticipate 3950 as the date of Doomsday.

When Ursus declares Martial Law and agitates for the Invasion, co-opting the Ape Minister to side with him, declaring it to be a "holy war" rather than denouncing the plan as inherently impious, a violation of the Lawgiver's ancient taboo... Zaius has every reason to believe that the destruction of the Earth will happen sooner than later -- that Ursus' folly will lead to destruction. It is not only what is Known that scares the shit out of Zaius... it is the Unknown , the menace lurking in the Forbidden Zone, perhaps stirred-up by the arrival of the desert-trekking Astronauts and by the "manhunt" he went on with that band of gorillas. He tries to warn Ursus about it, during the sauna scene, but Ursus has already made his plans, and can't be stopped from seeking his revenge against whomever is responsible for the "unsimian torture" of the lone surviving Scout.

I'm tempted to suspect that Dehn had a 2nd sequel in mind well before he got the memo to write another movie to follow "BENEATH". Zaius' whole changed-attitude in "BENEATH" makes infinitely more sense if we deduce -- from the info contained in all the sequels -- that Zaius had had foreknowledge of an inevitable "Doomsday... the End of the World". His reconciliation with Zira and Cornelius, in particular. They'd agreed to keep quiet about the "Terrible Secret"... to keep the rest of Ape City in ignorance. A quid-pro-quo. He dropped the heresy charges in return.

And Zira and Cornelius got married.

And, at some point, Cornelius -- and Zira -- had acquired access to those "Secret Scrolls"... the "history scrolls kept hidden from the masses" -- kept hidden BY ZAIUS, the only ape who could have been keeping them secret because he was the GUARDIAN of that Terrible Secret.

Thus, in my POTA scenario, Zaius -- as he leaves Ape City with Ursus -- will have left a package at Cornelius' office in the Academy. A package pertaining to the "archaeologist" career he'd had to forsake as part of their "deal" (falling back on his collegiate Minor in Psychology, assisting Zira in her work).

During the few days between the march of Ursus' army from Ape City and the arrival of Zira and Cornelius (with Milo) at the site of the 3rd ANSA spaceship, then, Cornelius must have had the opportunity to see the very documents that held the secrets that Zaius and his ancestors had been keeping for centuries.

Information about two "parent apes" who came "from Earth's own future" to give birth to an Ape-King "savior" named CAESAR, who would free Apekind from the yoke of human slavery after they'd been first taken as replacement pets following a mysterious Plague.

Etc etc etc.

Not until he, Zira, and Milo found themselves -- after witnessing the destruction of the Earth from orbit -- back on Earth... but in their Past ... having traveled "from Earth's own future" (as that old "Secret Scroll" stated), would Cornelius begin to take seriously the astounding notion that the "parent apes" were none other than Zira and himself... and that the Ape-King Caesar was none other than the unborn child Zira was carrying with her, as a 4th unknown Ape-onaut.

Only then, especially when their "welcome" wore out halfway through "ESCAPE", when Hasslein started hasslin' them... only then would they have every reason to believe that they were living what a later ape would write down as the once-sacred history which predated the later "Sacred Scrolls" which erased that prior history.

Patrick Michael Tilton

EARTH-TIME

4-18-2007

 

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Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2007 8:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #238 now available.

 

Issue #238 of the UK weekly comic The Mighty World of Marvel, featuring Planet of the Apes, is now available for download from Hunter's site.

 

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.html In a message dated 4/18/2007 10:46:07 AM Central Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

Watch the scene where Zaius discovers the paper airplane again. Cornelius had been wowed by this 'impossible' thing: "Flight is a scientific impossibility!".... and then Taylor's quickly whipped-up paper toy goes flyin' across the room.
When Zaius finds it and is told by Zira that it's "a toy... it floats on the air... Try it!" he gets angry: "Nonsense!" he exclaims, then crumples it up and drops it on the floor.

**** All that represents is Zaius wanting to keep the knowledge (or the mere idea of) flight, or any representation, repressed... He'd destroy anything that might let that idea out...

It is nothing to do with him thinking it might represent a spaceship...


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It's been a few days since any posts have been up... I'm wondering if they're getting thru to others or if this group is just at a standstill?


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In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:02:30 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

We are entertaining the thought of doing a POTA publication - ie a PAPER publication

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Subject: [PotaDG] Role Call!

I'm getting them.

 

I really don't have too much to say right now.

 

I am moving 1600km across the country and opening a business so that will be taking all my time now.

 

I'll be living close to Neil and we WILL be doing more comics.

 

We are entertaining the thought of doing a POTA publication - ie a PAPER publication.

 

That's about all from me.

 

Is there anything we have not discussed about POTA?

 

I'll be buggered if I can think of much.

 

But anyway - chime in to say "HI" if you are out there.

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In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:02:30 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

We are entertaining the thought of doing a POTA publication - ie a PAPER publication

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We're thinking about a Fanzine publication.

 

Actually mainly NEIL is thinking that!

I think the group covers it, and frankly I don't see the need for using paper (I mean an email to the group is MUCH quicker!), but Neil is thinking of a Fanzine - every 3 months with (probably around 7 pages of) a comic you can't access any other way.

 

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In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:02:30 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

We are entertaining the thought of doing a POTA publication - ie a PAPER publication

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I'm sick. I'm only at my desk this morning because I keep my headache medicine here.

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On Apr 20, 2007, at 1:01 am, Michael Whitty wrote:

I'm getting them.

 

I really don't have too much to say right now.

 

I am moving 1600km across the country and opening a business so that will be taking all my time now.

 

I'll be living close to Neil and we WILL be doing more comics.

 

We are entertaining the thought of doing a POTA publication - ie a PAPER publication.

 

That's about all from me.

 

Is there anything we have not discussed about POTA?

 

I'll be buggered if I can think of much.

 

But anyway - chime in to say "HI" if you are out there.

 

Michael

 

 

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Actually mainly NEIL is thinking that!

I think the group covers it, and frankly I don't see the need for using paper (I mean an email to the group is MUCH quicker!), but Neil is thinking of a Fanzine - every 3 months with (probably around 7 pages of) a comic you can't access any other way.

*** Actually I like that idea quite a bit... As I've said before, I much rather read something like a book or magazine than set in front of a computer any time...

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.html In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:52:14 AM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

The only new thing I know of is the 4th part of that POTA audio and unfortunately that just made me yawn when I listened to it. Has any one else bothered to keep listening to it or am I the only one still punishing myself?

**** I've listened to it... If you recall, I mentioned that a few days ago when I said how the MONKEY PLANET radio drama is a far better production, even though it lacks all the bells and whistles that Broken Sea's production overuses...

Anyway, yeah, part 4... I almost laughed when "the hunt" started... Those gorillas yelling "Kill the humans," how ridiculous is that?!? People here hunt white tail deer, and I've yet to ever hear anyone of them mutter "Kill the deer"... That guy just does not get it... I do have to say that of any line the gorillas have "kill the humans" is the only one I can understand, all the rest is way too muffled...


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Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2007 1:11 AM
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Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Fanzine

In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:53:16 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

Actually mainly NEIL is thinking that!

I think the group covers it, and frankly I don't see the need for using paper (I mean an email to the group is MUCH quicker!), but Neil is thinking of a Fanzine - every 3 months with (probably around 7 pages of) a comic you can't access any other way.

*** Actually I like that idea quite a bit... As I've said before, I much rather read something like a book or magazine than set in front of a computer any time...


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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2007 8:35 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Fanzine

-- Yeah just a dream though I think. There are other ones already out there that are already well established and to tell the truth I don't think I could really invest the time and effort to do a fanzine at the moment.

 

Maybe just a bi-yearly comic compendium or something?

 

Neil

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2007 4:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Fanzine

We're thinking about a Fanzine publication.

 

Actually mainly NEIL is thinking that!

I think the group covers it, and frankly I don't see the need for using paper (I mean an email to the group is MUCH quicker!), but Neil is thinking of a Fanzine - every 3 months with (probably around 7 pages of) a comic you can't access any other way.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2007 4:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Role Call!

What do you mean by that? Do you mean a comic or do you mean a fanzine type publication?




In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:02:30 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

We are entertaining the thought of doing a POTA publication - ie a PAPER publication

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I'd just print it out

*** No printer man!

Besides that, nicely "printed" items look better than something off a shoddy home printer (generally speaking that is...)


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In a message dated 4/20/2007 4:21:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Besides that, nicely "printed" items look better than something off a shoddy home printer

 

Remember dot matrix printers?

 

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HI.

Yeah, I'm still lurking back here as always. Like you say, not much new
to speak about. I haven't bothered listening to the BrokenSea, stuff,
but I'm trying to at least download the stuff so that I can give it a
proper listen someday.

Curious to see what you two aussies are cookin up, or at least
contemplating cooking up! I don't know if your fanzine or whatever
needs to be printed or not, since I do have access to good printers and
can print whatever comes along. Which reminds me...
do have some POTA related stuff to discuss after all.

I only started receiving Simian Scrolls at issue 6 so getting the first
5 online was a great benefit for me. I've still got issue 5 to read and
the end of 4, but noted the following in an earlier issue, all before
the 2001 movie came out.

There was a prophetic description:
"... if nothing else, Tim Burton's movie will be memorable."

Well it turned out to be memorable all right, but for all the wrong
reasons. Funny how everything seemed so optimistic in those days.

Getting back to the potential aussie fanzine, wouldn't the shipping
costs be especially prohibitive?

Right now, I'm just waiting for the RotPotA trade paperback becomes
offically announced in Previews so that I can put my order in with my
'comic guy'. Also hoping to hear what the extra's are gonna be. Any
chance of their being at least one new story? Not sure what is the norm
for these kinds of things. Graham may be able to shed some light on that.

Dario

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From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
Date: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:01 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Role Call!

> I'm getting them.
>
> I really don't have too much to say right now.
>
> I am moving 1600km across the country and opening a business so
> that will be
> taking all my time now.
>
> I'll be living close to Neil and we WILL be doing more comics.
>
> We are entertaining the thought of doing a POTA publication - ie a
> PAPERpublication.
>
> That's about all from me.
>
> Is there anything we have not discussed about POTA?
>
> I'll be buggered if I can think of much.
>
> But anyway - chime in to say "HI" if you are out there.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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> Subject: {Spam?} [PotaDG] is this group even going
>
>
>
> It's been a few days since any posts have been up... I'm wondering if
> they're getting thru to others or if this group is just at a
> standstill?
>
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2007 9:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Role Call!

Right now, I'm just waiting for the RotPotA trade paperback becomes  offically announced in Previews so that I can put my order in with my  'comic guy'. Also hoping to hear what the extra's are gonna be. Any  chance of their being at least one new story? Not sure what is the norm  for these kinds of things. Graham may be able to shed some light on that.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> I'm just waiting for the RotPotA trade paperback becomes
> offically announced in Previews so that I can put my order in with my
> 'comic guy'. Also hoping to hear what the extra's are gonna be. Any
> chance of their being at least one new story? Not sure what is the norm
> for these kinds of things. Graham may be able to shed some light on that.
>
> Dario
>

 The New Previews should be out next week , the details for the major publishers are already knocking round the web... Haven't seen anything for Mr Comics but this will be the Previews for comics, etc that begin shipping in July.

Best Graham.

 

Thanks Graham.

That means that it could be announced in this Previews or the next. So
it'll be time to order soon!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Hill <shop@...>
Date: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:43 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Role Call!

>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm just waiting for the RotPotA trade paperback becomes
> > offically announced in Previews so that I can put my order in
> with my
> > 'comic guy'. Also hoping to hear what the extra's are gonna be. Any
> > chance of their being at least one new story? Not sure what is the
> norm
> > for these kinds of things. Graham may be able to shed some light on
> that.
> >
> > Dario
> >
>
> The New Previews should be out next week , the details for the major
> publishers are already knocking round the web... Haven't seen anything
> for Mr Comics but this will be the Previews for comics, etc that begin
> shipping in July.
>
> Best Graham.
>
>
>
>

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Robot Roll Call

 

CAMBOT

 

GYPSY

 

TOM SERVO

 

CROOOOOOOW

 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2007 11:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Role Call!

Thanks Graham.

That means that it could be announced in this Previews or the next. So
it'll be time to order soon!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Hill <shop@amgrafcomics. co.uk>
Date: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:43 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Role Call!

>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm just waiting for the RotPotA trade paperback becomes
> > offically announced in Previews so that I can put my order in
> with my
> > 'comic guy'. Also hoping to hear what the extra's are gonna be. Any
> > chance of their being at least one new story? Not sure what is the
> norm
> > for these kinds of things. Graham may be able to shed some light on
> that.
> >
> > Dario
> >
>
> The New Previews should be out next week , the details for the major
> publishers are already knocking round the web... Haven't seen anything
> for Mr Comics but this will be the Previews for comics, etc that begin
> shipping in July.
>
> Best Graham.
>
>
>
>

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2007 8:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Fanzine

In a message dated 4/20/2007 4:21:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@aol. com writes:

Besides that, nicely "printed" items look better than something off a shoddy home printer

 

Remember dot matrix printers?

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2007 1:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Role Call!

In a message dated 4/20/2007 1:52:14 AM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

The only new thing I know of is the 4th part of that POTA audio and unfortunately that just made me yawn when I listened to it. Has any one else bothered to keep listening to it or am I the only one still punishing myself?

**** I've listened to it... If you recall, I mentioned that a few days ago when I said how the MONKEY PLANET radio drama is a far better production, even though it lacks all the bells and whistles that Broken Sea's production overuses...

Anyway, yeah, part 4... I almost laughed when "the hunt" started... Those gorillas yelling "Kill the humans," how ridiculous is that?!? People here hunt white tail deer, and I've yet to ever hear anyone of them mutter "Kill the deer"... That guy just does not get it... I do have to say that of any line the gorillas have "kill the humans" is the only one I can understand, all the rest is way too muffled...


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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2007 7:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Fanzine

In a message dated 4/20/2007 4:13:59 PM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

I'd just print it out

*** No printer man!

Besides that, nicely "printed" items look better than something off a shoddy home printer (generally speaking that is...)


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Here some POTA stuff that's amusing.

But why no dialogue Bill & Paula?  It

just looks like some couple arguing.

Don't we all get enough of that at home?

 

YouTube - We Will Rock You - Planet of the Apes Style

 

YouTube - Salvation for the Planet of the Apes - www.cyborlite.com

 

YouTube - Planet of the Apes - MUSIC

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This is pretty cool, looks from the background part as if this was maybe going to be from Escape maybe?

*** Yeah, it does look that way... "We are peaceful creatures. We are happy to be here. May we be unchained?"

Well, okay, she's not cuffed, but it reminds me of that scene...


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...what, when or where these are from?

*** Hmmm, interesting... These are probbaly some UK knockoffs I'd guess, but UI could be way off...

It's also interesting to note that in the UK, they released felt covered one piece knockoffs of the MEGO figures... I bid on and won a couple on eBay a few years back... But then all of a sudden the seller was like  "Oops, I've misplaced them, I can't sell them now..." It was probably more like "Oops, I've been offered more money than our auction agreement..."


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I'm back! I was in and out of town the last few weeks
so had many posts to catch up on.....

I like the idea of a bi-monthly comic coming out!!! I
would definately order those!!

Tim

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:43 AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] check this out!!

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And, even this many weeks later, I still think that bust s u c k s... It woulda been a lot better if they just did it as the gorilla without that crown...



In a message dated 4/24/2007 6:30:07 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- We saw this a week or so ago.

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:43 AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] check this out!!


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I was gone for awhile Neal so I didn't know......

it's still freaky!

I do wonder if this guy has the almighty FOX's
permission.....

Tim


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> *** It may be true that we seen this awhile back,
> but I give Tim credit for
> at least trying to keep things rolling on here...
>
> And, even this many weeks later, I still think that
> bust s u c k s... It
> woulda been a lot better if they just did it as the
> gorilla without that crown...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/24/2007 6:30:07 PM Central
> Daylight Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
>
> > -- We saw this a week or so ago.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
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> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Tim "apefan"
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:43 AM
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> >>
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> >>
> >> FREAKY!!
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> >> .
> >>
> >
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] check this out!!

*** It may be true that we seen this awhile back, but I give Tim credit for at least trying to keep things rolling on here...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] check this out!!

I was gone for awhile Neal so I didn't know......

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 8:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] check this out!!

-- I wasn't having a go at you Tim it's just that all that we seem to get on ALL of these POTA groups these days are the same old subjects that have been done to death many, many times.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] check this out!!

I was gone for awhile Neal so I didn't know......

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 4:03 PM
To: PotaDG
Subject: [PotaDG] The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.

 

Issue #239 of the UK weekly comic The Mighty World of Marvel, featuring Planet of the Apes, is now available for download from Hunter's site.

 

https://pota. goatley.com/

 

 

Neil

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 8:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Talking about chatting......

....looks like Neil and I are going to go ahead and use his ACTION FIGURES cover after all.

 

We are planning a POTA Action Figures Special.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 8:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] check this out!!

-- I wasn't having a go at you Tim it's just that all that we seem to get on ALL of these POTA groups these days are the same old subjects that have been done to death many, many times.

 

Neil

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] check this out!!

I was gone for awhile Neal so I didn't know......

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Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 8:35 AM
To: 'PotaDG'
Subject: [PotaDG] What the...

F**k is this all about?????

 

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....looks like Neil and I are going to go ahead and use his ACTION FIGURES cover after all.

We are planning a POTA Action Figures Special.

*** This is great news...

Will this include the knock-off figures (Astro-Apes and the Azark Action Ape Men)?

And, are you planning on covering just the vintage stuff from the 70's, or will you go as far as a couple years ago to include the SideShow figures?

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Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Yeah!

These new Apenews broadcast pics with the new comic covers are a great
way to announce the new issues. Who's idea was that? Yours Neil?

Oh, and good luck with the Action Figure issue. Megos are the one
aspect of apedom that I seemed to have missed out completly as a kid.
Since we seemed to have gotten most if not all the other common Ape
merchandise here in Canada, I often wonder if perhaps Megos (or at least
POTA) Megos never made it here. Can't recall ever seeing any TV
commercial for those, nor seeing them in stores, nor any friends having any.
I still don't have any Megos!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:31 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.

> Thanks Neil.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Neil Foster
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 4:03 PM
> To: PotaDG
> Subject: [PotaDG] The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Issue #239 of the UK weekly comic The Mighty World of Marvel,
> featuringPlanet of the Apes, is now available for download from
> Hunter's site.
>
> https://pota. <https://pota.goatley.com/> goatley.com/
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>

Uh.... I think your first word pretty much explained it all.
I was going to add that it was all greek to me, but under the
circumstances I won't go there.

Anyone know Polish and can translate?
No?
Anyone know any good Polish jokes?

Dario

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From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:34 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] What the...

> F**k is this all about?????
>
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I often wonder if perhaps Megos (or at least POTA) Megos never made it here. Can't recall ever seeing any TV commercial for those, nor seeing them in stores, nor any friends having any.I still don't have any Megos!

*** Actually, the Mego APES line was available in Canada... As a matter of fact, there was an exclusive Catapult and Wagon set that came with a Clydesdale horse... Well, it wasn't just excluive to Canada, as it was available in Mexico too, but still, it wasn't made for distribution in the States...


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Hi everybody! Is the movie Time of the Apes not available on DVD? I cant seem to find it, have seen clips on youtube though.

 

Is it horrid? Anybody out there have a good quality dubbed dvd copy that they could sell or trade?

 

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Anyone know any good Polish jokes?

 

 

Yeah . . . this poster!

 

 

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.

Yeah!

These new Apenews broadcast pics with the new comic covers are a great
way to announce the new issues. Who's idea was that? Yours Neil?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.

Oh, and good luck with the Action Figure issue. Megos are the one
aspect of apedom that I seemed to have missed out completly as a kid.
Since we seemed to have gotten most if not all the other common Ape
merchandise here in Canada, I often wonder if perhaps Megos (or at least
POTA) Megos never made it here. Can't recall ever seeing any TV
commercial for those, nor seeing them in stores, nor any friends having any.
I still don't have any Megos!

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While visiting the hi-tech lab of Uncle Charlie, the kids and chaperone Catherine (Reiko Tokunaga) take refuge from an earthquake in capsules that shield them from the falling debris, not to mention the danger of that big cardboard "computer" catching fire from the blinking lightbulbs jammed into it.

The good news is they survive the earthquake. The bad news is they wake up several thousand years into the future on... wait for it... a planet ruled by apes! (You were expecting something else from a flick called TIME OF THE APES?)

What follows is one of the most entertaining "so bad it's great" gems I've seen in years. All the cliche POTA subplots can be found in abundance... the area the apes are afraid to venture into; Pepe, the helpful ape child (played Kazue Takita), who looks like a kid in an Ewok mask; Godo, the obligatory "wildman" (Tetsuya Ushio) who might as well come from a tribe called "The Beatniks" with his turtleneck sweater and wild beard; in-fighting within the ape community; and, oh, so much more.

Unlike "official" APES entries, TIME OF THE APES steers clear of any "messages" like racial harmony, technology gone awry or man's inhumanity to man for most of its 98 minute running time. That changes during a revealing encounter between our "naked ape" humans and Police Chief Gebar (Baku Hatakeyama), which is pronounced "Gay Bar" throughout the flick.

Thanks to some name-clearing footage provided by a buttinsky of a UFO and the good-natured wisdom of the sartorially resplendent Commander (Wataru Omae), our heroes are given the opportunity to live a life that basically translates to "separate but equal" status. Until, of course, an encounter with a supercomputer that explains (sorta) how apes came to rule and gives our intrepid time-travelers a chance to travel even further into the future or live life on another planet. Some choices huh!

What the computer does not explain is: how the apes came into possession of leftover uniforms from a civil war re-enactment society; why the Commander wears a costume that can only be described as Dolemite Meets Colonel Sanders; what the origin of the CB antenna, um, I mean "laser whip" is; how - if it's a few thousand years in the future - the apes are driving a fine selection of 1960s/70s muscle cars; or, if Uncle Charlie's smoking around the "highly sensitive" computer equipment had anything to do with thrusting our heroes into the future.

With all the junk that's clogging up the 600 cable channels we get, I find it hard to believe somebody wasn't willing to air the 26 episodes that make up the entire Japanese TV series from which this flick was edited together. I guarantee it would immediately become my favorite show on television!"

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kidro85@...
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

Hi everybody! Is the movie Time of the Apes not available on DVD? I cant seem to find it, have seen clips on youtube though.

 

Is it horrid?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.

Oh, and good luck with the Action Figure issue. Megos are the one
aspect of apedom that I seemed to have missed out completly as a kid.
Since we seemed to have gotten most if not all the other common Ape
merchandise here in Canada, I often wonder if perhaps Megos (or at least
POTA) Megos never made it here. Can't recall ever seeing any TV
commercial for those, nor seeing them in stores, nor any friends having any.
I still don't have any Megos!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- We had some of them in England but only the basic TV show figures as
> far as I know. They weren't known as 'Megos' though, they were put out
> by Palitoy.
>
> The only one I was lucky enough to have was Galen who is now sadly long
> gone. I still don't have any now either!
>
> Neil
>
>

The First figures I picked up,in the UK, were carded Megos bought from a toy stall on Oldham market near Manchester.

(I'd also picked up Action Jackson from the same place a while before)

Cornelius on the blue card (Well I think it was blue ? can't remember the backs of the cards) and Soldier ape with the cloth gloves so  I think they were from the first batch of five.

Though I never saw any others until Palitoy started repackaging them for the UK.

With hindsight I thing that the stall got remainder stock from somewhere hence the US cards , this still happens today often a lot of the "cheap" shops will get toys from all over the place , lots of US carded figures can turn up, Chinese G.I Joes all sorts but usually only in small quantities ... end of lines... possibly because there's a packaging change... that sort of thing.

So as you say Neil, Megos weren't officially distributed in the UK under their own name (Palitoy had the licence)  but it looks like a few crept through.

(Also had a few of Megos World Greatest Superheroes before Palitoy started their repackaging)

Best Graham.

 

Oh I know Neil...no problem...

It does seem that most "philosophical" discussions
have all but run dry in all the groups! It's cool when
a new member joins in and brings up timelines or the
plague or other things that we have discussed, we
veterans can fill them in on what we know.

But we shouldn't let that discourage us (the lack of
topics)....we don't need to have a constant running
conversation....I don't think that it means anyone is
less interested in POTA (or so I would hope) ...it
could merely mean people are busy or perhaps they just
don't have anything to sayat the present time. I dig
these groups as a way to stay connected to
POTA-philes and to get any info on new products or
projects...

All I'm saying is, don't let it get you down that
there's not much buzz sometimes.....I'm sure we'll all
be blathering about something down the line!

Have a great day...!
Tim
--- Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> -- I wasn't having a go at you Tim it's just that
> all that we seem to
> get on ALL of these POTA groups these days are the
> same old subjects
> that have been done to death many, many times.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] check this out!!
>
>
>
> I was gone for awhile Neal so I didn't know......
>
>
> .
>
>

<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m

>

sgId=44564/stime=1177519470/nc1=4543836/nc2=3848619/nc3=3858793>

>
>
>
>

WOW! Those Poles always have different and interesting
posters for films but this takes the cake!!

Tim
--- Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> F**k is this all about?????
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Escape-from-the-Planet-of-the-Apes-Polish-movie-p

>

oster_W0QQitemZ130105708988QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1420QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

>
> Neil
>
>

SWEET! I look forward to that!

Tim
--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> ....looks like Neil and I are going to go ahead and
> use his ACTION FIGURES
> cover after all.
>
> We are planning a POTA Action Figures Special.
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Neil Foster
> Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 8:03 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] check this out!!
>
>
>
>
>
> -- I wasn't having a go at you Tim it's just that
> all that we seem to get on
> ALL of these POTA groups these days are the same old
> subjects that have been
> done to death many, many times.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] check this out!!
>
>
>
> I was gone for awhile Neal so I didn't know......
>
>
> .
> Web Bug from
>

http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId=

>

44564/stime=1177519470/nc1=4543836/nc2=3848619/nc3=3858793

>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 9:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

-- I've seen home made DVD copies of it on ebay every now and again.

I do have an old VHS copy and I really wouldn't recommend it unless you want a really good laugh!

 

You might want to read the following excellent review that one ebay seller wrote about it:

 

"Back in the 60's the Japanese bought a load of Planet of the Apes materials and decided to make their own version of the movie, with interesting results, finally it's here, it's a classic and a must own, let me tell you why!

 

Johnny (Masaaki Kaji) and Caroline (Hiroko Saito) are annoying Japanese schoolchildren straight out of GODZILLA flick central casting. Johnny has that round, moon face that suggests too many dumplings and a role as the teenager Sammo Hung in a made-for-TV bio-pic while Caroline sports white knee-highs, pigtails, and a denim jumper over a Holly Hobbie blouse, securing a place for her in the hearts and minds of freaky Japanese schoolgirl fetish fans everywhere.

While visiting the hi-tech lab of Uncle Charlie, the kids and chaperone Catherine (Reiko Tokunaga) take refuge from an earthquake in capsules that shield them from the falling debris, not to mention the danger of that big cardboard "computer" catching fire from the blinking lightbulbs jammed into it.

The good news is they survive the earthquake. The bad news is they wake up several thousand years into the future on... wait for it... a planet ruled by apes! (You were expecting something else from a flick called TIME OF THE APES?)

What follows is one of the most entertaining "so bad it's great" gems I've seen in years. All the cliche POTA subplots can be found in abundance... the area the apes are afraid to venture into; Pepe, the helpful ape child (played Kazue Takita), who looks like a kid in an Ewok mask; Godo, the obligatory "wildman" (Tetsuya Ushio) who might as well come from a tribe called "The Beatniks" with his turtleneck sweater and wild beard; in-fighting within the ape community; and, oh, so much more.

Unlike "official" APES entries, TIME OF THE APES steers clear of any "messages" like racial harmony, technology gone awry or man's inhumanity to man for most of its 98 minute running time. That changes during a revealing encounter between our "naked ape" humans and Police Chief Gebar (Baku Hatakeyama), which is pronounced "Gay Bar" throughout the flick.

Thanks to some name-clearing footage provided by a buttinsky of a UFO and the good-natured wisdom of the sartorially resplendent Commander (Wataru Omae), our heroes are given the opportunity to live a life that basically translates to "separate but equal" status. Until, of course, an encounter with a supercomputer that explains (sorta) how apes came to rule and gives our intrepid time-travelers a chance to travel even further into the future or live life on another planet. Some choices huh!

What the computer does not explain is: how the apes came into possession of leftover uniforms from a civil war re-enactment society; why the Commander wears a costume that can only be described as Dolemite Meets Colonel Sanders; what the origin of the CB antenna, um, I mean "laser whip" is; how - if it's a few thousand years in the future - the apes are driving a fine selection of 1960s/70s muscle cars; or, if Uncle Charlie's smoking around the "highly sensitive" computer equipment had anything to do with thrusting our heroes into the future.

With all the junk that's clogging up the 600 cable channels we get, I find it hard to believe somebody wasn't willing to air the 26 episodes that make up the entire Japanese TV series from which this flick was edited together. I guarantee it would immediately become my favorite show on television!"

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of kidro85@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

Hi everybody! Is the movie Time of the Apes not available on DVD? I cant seem to find it, have seen clips on youtube though.

 

Is it horrid?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

Yeah it's rubbish, but it is a "must experience" for POTA fans amd it's a bit like LSD....some sit there laughing while some run out screaming!

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In a message dated 4/26/2007 5:22:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- We have to remember that the 'movie version' of Time of the Apes is cobbled together from a much longer TV series which could and probably does explain why it is seems so stupid.

Has anyone here actually seen the full series?

 

Neil

The Mystery Science Theater 3000 version of TIME OF THE APES is the only way to see this Sandy Frank classic.

 

I think TIME OF THE APES can be blended into POTA continuity ... after all, who knows what was going on in Japan while Cesser and company were burning cities....

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.html In a message dated 4/26/2007 6:46:41 AM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- We had some of them in England but only the basic TV show figures as far as I know. They weren't known as 'Megos' though, they were put out by Palitoy.


*** The only ones that weren't released in the UK were Cornelius and the original Astronaut...

Galen was the same as Cornelius though (except some Galen figures have green tinged ears) so if an English kid wanted to play PLANET they still had a male chimp...

I find it weird though that in the UK they released Zira, only because they were so focused on the TV series... So focused in fact that the backs of the PALITOY cards show the TV Zaius, even though the Dr. Zaius figure which was released looks nothing like him...


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Urko-David Sobkowiak

What the fu*k?

I knew his story was messed up, but good God, dragging MONKEY PLANET and the TV series into this? What's next, will the humans be able to mumble a few inarticulate jibberish lines like Nova from RETURN?


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In a message dated 4/26/2007 6:47:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

I do have an old VHS copy and I really wouldn't recommend it unless you want a really good laugh!

 

I might order the MST3K version.

I don't remember the storyline all that well,

so it might be worth watching again.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 3:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.

Though I never saw any others until Palitoy started repackaging them for the UK.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 7:15 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

-- We have to remember that the 'movie version' of Time of the Apes is cobbled together from a much longer TV series which could and probably does explain why it is seems so stupid.

Has anyone here actually seen the full series?

 

Neil

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

Yeah it's rubbish, but it is a "must experience" for POTA fans amd it's a bit like LSD....some sit there laughing while some run out screaming!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 7:25 AM
To: PotaDG
Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Audio part 5 ready for download now...

 

http://www.brokense a.com/pota/ 105POTAChap409ap r2007.mp3

 

Planet of the Apes Episode 5: Chapter 4

Hunted by armed, sentient gorillas, Dodge falls victim to ape gunfire. Landon is separated from his friends and left running for his life. Taylor gets shot in the neck, but somehow survives and is taken to a strange zoo where the exhibits are all human. What freakish world is this, where gorillas brandish firearms and chimpanzees are scientists? Dr. Zira and Dr. Galen share their theories....

Here ends Part 1 of Planet of the Apes.

Look for the first 5 episodes mixed together into 1 full length episode in 2 weeks (there will only be 2 lessons from the Lawgiver, one at the beginning and one at the end, we may at a later date release All the lessons from the Lawgiver as a set.)

Part 2 will resume 2 weeks after that and continue the story of the Planet of the Apes.

Thank you for all your support!

Cornelius- Mark Kalita
The Law Giver - Mark Kalita
Landon - Miles Reid
Dodge - Doug Mannlin
Gorillas-Miles Reid
Gorillas- Colin Snow
Gorillas-Bill Hollweg
Gorillas-James Freeman
Zira- Natasha Lathrop
Dr Galen- David Sobkowiak
Urko-David Sobkowiak
Chimpanzee Nurse - Anne Lysic
Taylor - Bill Hollweg

Lessons from the Lawgiver Provided By James of LFTL and Tonights lesson written by Glen Scheetz


Planet of the Apes Written and Directed by Bill Hollweg

Neil

 

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In a message dated 4/26/2007 7:49:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, atragon1@... writes:

The Mystery Science Theater 3000 version of TIME OF THE APES is the only way to see this Sandy Frank classic

 

SANDY FRANK!!!
SANDY FRANK!!!

He's The Source Of All Our Paaaaaiiiiiinnnn!!!!!

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 10:05 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Talking about chatting......

In a message dated 4/25/2007 5:30:04 PM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

....looks like Neil and I are going to go ahead and use his ACTION FIGURES cover after all.

We are planning a POTA Action Figures Special.

*** This is great news...

Will this include the knock-off figures (Astro-Apes and the Azark Action Ape Men)?

And, are you planning on covering just the vintage stuff from the 70's, or will you go as far as a couple years ago to include the SideShow figures?



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In a message dated 4/26/2007 4:06:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

finally it's here, it's a classic and a must own, let me tell you why!

 

Tell me where!

Shoot me a link!

Is it only on VHS in PAL?

if it's a DVD I have region free!

I'm in a buying mood.  Tim Allen's

Black On Black Mad Max Interceptor

got away from me yet again for $40,000.

Someday.  I didn't want one with the autographs

of him and his crew chief on the dashboard anyway. 

You think I alienate people over here!  Lemme tell ya

The Mad Max Group hate my guts because I want to

buy one already built instead of having one built or doing

the conversion myself.  Like I need the pain in the ass of

having Cam or Gordon locate an Aussie Ford Falcon and

rebuild it for a year before shipping, or ship me a rolling shell

and wrench on bitch and do body work for the rest of my natual

life.  Maybe that's their idea of fun, but it's not mine!  If I'm going

to wait a year on a car, it's because Rides By Troy are figuring me

out a way to make my Blower On/Off without faking it like everyone else.

 

Pardon my Rant.

They must think I'm full of it,

T

 

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In a message dated 4/26/2007 9:09:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

What's next, will the humans be able to mumble a few inarticulate jibberish lines like Nova from RETURN?

 

I find Nova being able to mutter a word or two after all those

thousands of years of engrained conditioning easier to believe than

the plot form Beneath with the hybrid child. I've seen a Chimp at the

Hogle Zoo who could say Happy Birthday by only holding her nose.

But to mate they'd have to pull a gene pair from a strand of DNA and

re-sequence it to make that magic happen.  And the most advanced

technology on the planet is sitting at the bottom of a lake, either that

or strewn all over the desert.  Good luck producing viable fertile offspring

without it.  And who was the donor do you think?  Taylor must have really

snapped after seeing Nova killed and ridden off with Zira into the sunset.

Now that's an alternate ending I'd bust a double sawbuck to see!  Save

that for your 50th Anniversary Double Platinum Set Release!  Phoar!!!

 

 

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In a message dated 4/27/2007 6:29:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

It will take a little time, but we have plenty of that!

 

"How much time does the World have?

Somebody has got to begin to care!"

  ~~~ Eric Braden as Dr. Hasslein ~~~~

 

 

 

 

 

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I liked Time of the Apes but I've always had a penchant for
outrageous B-movies. What becomes obvious when watching TotA is that
there is a lot of story that just doesn't make sense. This is because
it was originally a 26 part series (I never did find out if that meant
26 hours or 26 half hour episodes. Anybody know?). Whoever did the
editing to fit the entire series into a single movie format had one
hell of a job to do. I would just love to see the entire thing. As far
as I know, the entire 26 part series is still only available in
Japanese. I believe the original title is "Saru No Gumdam".

PS: I was able to get a copy of TotA for $7 off ebay.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
Date: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:52 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

> Yeah it's rubbish, but it is a "must experience" for POTA fans amd
> it's a
> bit like LSD....some sit there laughing while some run out screaming!
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Neil Foster
> Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 9:46 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Time of the apes
>
>
>
>
>
> -- I've seen home made DVD copies of it on ebay every now and
> again.
> I do have an old VHS copy and I really wouldn't recommend it
> unless you want
> a really good laugh!
>
> You might want to read the following excellent review that one
> ebay seller
> wrote about it:
>
> "Back in the 60's the Japanese bought a load of Planet of the Apes
> materialsand decided to make their own version of the movie, with
> interestingresults, finally it's here, it's a classic and a must
> own, let me tell you
> why!
>
> Johnny (Masaaki Kaji) and Caroline (Hiroko Saito) are annoying
> Japaneseschoolchildren straight out of GODZILLA flick central
> casting. Johnny has
> that round, moon face that suggests too many dumplings and a role
> as the
> teenager Sammo Hung in a made-for-TV bio-pic while Caroline sports
> whiteknee-highs, pigtails, and a denim jumper over a Holly Hobbie
> blouse,securing a place for her in the hearts and minds of freaky
> Japaneseschoolgirl fetish fans everywhere.
>
>
>
> While visiting the hi-tech lab of Uncle Charlie, the kids and
> chaperoneCatherine (Reiko Tokunaga) take refuge from an earthquake
> in capsules that
> shield them from the falling debris, not to mention the danger of
> that big
> cardboard "computer" catching fire from the blinking lightbulbs
> jammed into
> it.
>
>
>
> The good news is they survive the earthquake. The bad news is they
> wake up
> several thousand years into the future on... wait for it... a
> planet ruled
> by apes! (You were expecting something else from a flick called
> TIME OF THE
> APES?)
>
>
>
> What follows is one of the most entertaining "so bad it's great"
> gems I've
> seen in years. All the cliche POTA subplots can be found in
> abundance... the
> area the apes are afraid to venture into; Pepe, the helpful ape child
> (played Kazue Takita), who looks like a kid in an Ewok mask; Godo,
the
> obligatory "wildman" (Tetsuya Ushio) who might as well come from a
> tribecalled "The Beatniks" with his turtleneck sweater and wild
beard;
> in-fighting within the ape community; and, oh, so much more.
>
>
>
> Unlike "official" APES entries, TIME OF THE APES steers clear of any
> "messages" like racial harmony, technology gone awry or man's
> inhumanity to
> man for most of its 98 minute running time. That changes during a
> revealingencounter between our "naked ape" humans and Police Chief
> Gebar (Baku
> Hatakeyama), which is pronounced "Gay Bar" throughout the flick.
>
>
>
> Thanks to some name-clearing footage provided by a buttinsky of a
> UFO and
> the good-natured wisdom of the sartorially resplendent Commander
> (WataruOmae), our heroes are given the opportunity to live a life
> that basically
> translates to "separate but equal" status. Until, of course, an
> encounterwith a supercomputer that explains (sorta) how apes came
> to rule and gives
> our intrepid time-travelers a chance to travel even further into
> the future
> or live life on another planet. Some choices huh!
>
>
>
> What the computer does not explain is: how the apes came into
> possession of
> leftover uniforms from a civil war re-enactment society; why the
> Commanderwears a costume that can only be described as Dolemite
> Meets Colonel
> Sanders; what the origin of the CB antenna, um, I mean "laser
> whip" is; how
> - if it's a few thousand years in the future - the apes are
> driving a fine
> selection of 1960s/70s muscle cars; or, if Uncle Charlie's smoking
> aroundthe "highly sensitive" computer equipment had anything to do
> with thrusting
> our heroes into the future.
>
>
>
> With all the junk that's clogging up the 600 cable channels we
> get, I find
> it hard to believe somebody wasn't willing to air the 26 episodes
> that make
> up the entire Japanese TV series from which this flick was edited
> together.I guarantee it would immediately become my favorite show
> on television!"
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> kidro85@...
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:02 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Time of the apes
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi everybody! Is the movie Time of the Apes not available on DVD?
> I cant
> seem to find it, have seen clips on youtube though.
>
> Is it horrid?
> .
> Web Bug from
> http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId=
> 44578/stime=1177570907/nc1=4543831/nc2=3848607/nc3=3858788
>
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 12:09 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA Audio part 5 ready for download now...

In a message dated 4/26/2007 4:27:57 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

Urko-David Sobkowiak

What the fu*k?

I knew his story was messed up, but good God, dragging MONKEY PLANET and the TV series into this? What's next, will the humans be able to mumble a few inarticulate jibberish lines like Nova from RETURN?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> After the TV Show, right?
>

HI Michael,
Yeah, but even the couple carded Megos I picked up were after the TV series had started in the UK.

Going back to what Mic mentioned, I think that Palitoy concentrated on the TV series because it was just so huge over here and we didn't get the films on TV, for the first time, until after the series had begun (possibly finished as well !!!)

Best, Graham.

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Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 9:36 PM
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Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] POTA Audio part 5 ready for download now...

In a message dated 4/26/2007 9:09:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@aol. com writes:

What's next, will the humans be able to mumble a few inarticulate jibberish lines like Nova from RETURN?

 

I find Nova being able to mutter a word or two after all those

thousands of years of engrained conditioning easier to believe than

the plot form Beneath with the hybrid child. I've seen a Chimp at the

Hogle Zoo who could say Happy Birthday by only holding her nose.

But to mate they'd have to pull a gene pair from a strand of DNA and

re-sequence it to make that magic happen.  And the most advanced

technology on the planet is sitting at the bottom of a lake, either that

or strewn all over the desert.  Good luck producing viable fertile offspring

without it.  And who was the donor do you think?  Taylor must have really

snapped after seeing Nova killed and ridden off with Zira into the sunset.

Now that's an alternate ending I'd bust a double sawbuck to see!  Save

that for your 50th Anniversary Double Platinum Set Release!  Phoar!!!

 

 

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Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 10:48 AM
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Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

In a message dated 4/26/2007 5:22:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

-- We have to remember that the 'movie version' of Time of the Apes is cobbled together from a much longer TV series which could and probably does explain why it is seems so stupid.

Has anyone here actually seen the full series?

 

Neil

The Mystery Science Theater 3000 version of TIME OF THE APES is the only way to see this Sandy Frank classic.

 

I think TIME OF THE APES can be blended into POTA continuity ... after all, who knows what was going on in Japan while Cesser and company were burning cities....

Bill

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In a message dated 4/26/2007 6:47:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

I do have an old VHS copy and I really wouldn't recommend it unless you want a really good laugh!

 

I might order the MST3K version.

I don't remember the storyline all that well,

so it might be worth watching again.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2007 7:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Mighty World of Marvel Issue #239 now available.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> After the TV Show, right?
>

HI Michael,
Yeah, but even the couple carded Megos I picked up were after the TV series had started in the UK.

Going back to what Mic mentioned, I think that Palitoy concentrated on the TV series because it was just so huge over here and we didn't get the films on TV, for the first time, until after the series had begun (possibly finished as well !!!)

Best, Graham.

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Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 12:09 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] POTA Audio part 5 ready for download now...

In a message dated 4/26/2007 4:27:57 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

Urko-David Sobkowiak

What the fu*k?

I knew his story was messed up, but good God, dragging MONKEY PLANET and the TV series into this? What's next, will the humans be able to mumble a few inarticulate jibberish lines like Nova from RETURN?


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Well, the original series was in Japanese, so watching that would probably make even less sense!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 10:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Time of the apes

In a message dated 4/26/2007 5:22:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

-- We have to remember that the 'movie version' of Time of the Apes is cobbled together from a much longer TV series which could and probably does explain why it is seems so stupid.

Has anyone here actually seen the full series?

 

Neil

The Mystery Science Theater 3000 version of TIME OF THE APES is the only way to see this Sandy Frank classic.

 

I think TIME OF THE APES can be blended into POTA continuity ... after all, who knows what was going on in Japan while Cesser and company were burning cities....

Bill

 

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