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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:37 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: "Logan's Run" remake

 www.aintitcool. com says Warner Bros. is moving ahead with their remake of "Logan's Run". What's interesting is they've got the writer of the solid sci-fi flick "Children of Men" and a first-time director, Joseph Kosinski. Fans have been saying Fox should hand off POTA to some visionary fresh talent. Once again if an expensive but literate science fiction movie can break out and be a hit (as opposed to the "Independence Day" crap) the studios might get a clue.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mwhitty
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Paper Icarus Model

We could always sacrifice our freedom and join the POTA group.

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----- Original Message -----

From: mwhitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:51 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

This is sad – these greedy bastards have enough money to make without us having another Beta/VHS scenario.

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2007 2:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

 Recently Neil mentioned the new HD formats. You might have heard there's a big "format war" between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the idea of studios going "exclusive" to one format or the other. Yesterday Paramount and Dreamworks announced they were going to release their movies exclusively on HD-DVD, including hits like "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". Those studios got paid a reported combined $150 million from HD- DVD owner Microsoft for their allegiance plus promotional incentives. Fox and MGM responded by saying their summer hits will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

  The bottom line is this short-term greed is killing a promising new format. The filmmakers are speaking out. Spielberg, who does what he wants, prefers Blu-ray so some of Paramount 's thunder was stolen by the fact that their "Indiana Jones" flicks will have to appear on Blu-Ray too. And now Michael Bay says he won't do "Transformers 2" for Paramount because he doesn't want part of his audience denied his movies.

  So that's the current big movie controversy. Any thoughts?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Neil Foster

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:25 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

-- Does this mean they will only be releasing the movies on these new formats or will they still be released as 'normal' DVDs as well?

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

 Recently Neil mentioned the new HD formats. You might have heard there's a big "format war" between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the idea of studios going "exclusive" to one format or the other. Yesterday Paramount and Dreamworks announced they were going to release their movies exclusively on HD-DVD, including hits like "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". Those studios got paid a reported combined $150 million from HD- DVD owner Microsoft for their allegiance plus promotional incentives. Fox and MGM responded by saying their summer hits will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

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----- Original Message -----

From: RedAce^

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

I  believe for the time being, that regular dvd's will continue to be made, since most households have standard dvd players. However, as HD becomes more and more popular, one may be forced to own either a machine that supports both formats, or two machines, one of each format. Personally, I do not own HD in any form  what so ever. I was one of the original Beta owners, I still have 3 working Beta machines, but they only collect dust these days. I still have some VHS as well, but most are or have been converted to DVD. The ones I purchased as originals cannot be converted to DVD so they sit on a shelf gathering dust, while I watch my dvd's. You can see from my history, I have been involved, as most of us my age have, with most every format that has come along. I even had 8mm laserdisc at one point. I have Star Wars in every format and every time it cost me a minimum of $30 - $40. I believe that HD is a stepping stone as have been other formats. And, that soon, something bigger, clearer, and better will be on the horizon. But, not until they milk the market for HD, and Blueray. Just my humble opinion.

 

RedAce^ aka Wasitchu 

----- Original Message -----

From: mwhitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:51 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

This is sad – these greedy bastards have enough money to make without us having another Beta/VHS scenario.

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2007 2:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

 Recently Neil mentioned the new HD formats. You might have heard there's a big "format war" between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the idea of studios going "exclusive" to one format or the other. Yesterday Paramount and Dreamworks announced they were going to release their movies exclusively on HD-DVD, including hits like "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". Those studios got paid a reported combined $150 million from HD- DVD owner Microsoft for their allegiance plus promotional incentives. Fox and MGM responded by saying their summer hits will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

  The bottom line is this short-term greed is killing a promising new format. The filmmakers are speaking out. Spielberg, who does what he wants, prefers Blu-ray so some of Paramount 's thunder was stolen by the fact that their "Indiana Jones" flicks will have to appear on Blu-Ray too. And now Michael Bay says he won't do "Transformers 2" for Paramount because he doesn't want part of his audience denied his movies.

  So that's the current big movie controversy. Any thoughts?

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-- Wouldn't this have been around the time Beneath was filming or about to start?

Neil


BENEATH didn't start filming until April of 1969.

-- Rory


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Any thoughts?

I think Blu-ray will win.  When Microsoft has to pay millions to get someone to use a format, you know they're desperate.

-- Rory


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.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 5:56:40 PM Central Daylight Time, mwhitty@... writes:

Hey – did someone over there murder Glum Schitz after his part in the Broken Seas production?

*** What part did he play in it? ***


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.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 3:36:48 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Does this mean they will only be releasing the movies on these new formats or will they still be released as 'normal' DVDs as well?


** They had better be released on "regular" DVD as well...


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.html.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 8:28:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Well, HD isn't going to take over any time soon with this crap going on.

I read the blogs on www.thedigitalbits.com almost daily, and according to them Blu-ray is outselling HD.

Blu-ray will win.  If it's good enough for Fox, it's good enough for everyone.

-- Rory


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.html.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 11:34:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

www.aintitcool.com says Warner Bros. is moving ahead with their remake of "Logan's Run". What's interesting is they've got the writer of the solid sci-fi flick "Children of Men" and a first-time director, Joseph Kosinski. Fans have been saying Fox should hand off POTA to some visionary fresh talent. Once again if an expensive but literate science fiction movie can break out and be a hit (as opposed to the "Independence Day" crap) the studios might get a clue.

An expensive but literate science fiction film?!!!!

I fear "Hollywood" has forgotten how to even try to make them.  I doubt this new LOGAN'S RUN will be that good.  For one, the story is now dated!

-- Rory


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.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 6:53:27 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

A lot of the posts these days seem to be cross posted between both groups

*** Not true!

The bulk of Hollywood Krueger's posts are crossposted, but the majority aren't... ***


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.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 7:29:52 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

BENEATH didn't start filming until April of 1969.

*** That's true... But, what I never got a clear answer to is this:  Why didn't they release BENEATH until 1970?

Obviously it was a quick cash in on PLANET, and the production values were lower. It didn't need a whole lot of SFX added, it had a shorter shooting schedule, etc. so why the delay? ***


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.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 7:42:40 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

I doubt this new LOGAN'S RUN will be that good.  For one, the story is now dated!

*** Maybe they will up the age of death to 40 or 50 to give the bulk of the film's original audience a new scare...


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.html.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 8:46:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

But, what I never got a clear answer to is this:  Why didn't they release BENEATH until 1970?

Obviously it was a quick cash in on PLANET, and the production values were lower. It didn't need a whole lot of SFX added, it had a shorter shooting schedule, etc. so why the delay? ***

I'm not sure, but I think it had something to do with the turmoil at the studio at the time.  The costs of bombs like DOCTOR DOLITTLE and STAR!, the studio not being able to release HELLO DOLLY until it finished its Broadway run, and then the amount of money being spent on PATTON (which would be a hit) and especially TORA! TORA! TORA! (which would bomb), caused the Fox Board of Directors in New York to demand that Richard Zanuck be fired in 1971, which his father Darryl F. then did!  I think this led the "Dickster" to decide it was best to "save" BENEATH until the summer of 1970, which turned out to be a good idea as the movie made almost as much as the original and, because of its lower budget, was actually a more profitable picture than PLANET.

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:41 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Paper Icarus Model

In a message dated 8/21/2007 6:53:27 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

A lot of the posts these days seem to be cross posted between both groups

*** Not true!

The bulk of Hollywood Krueger's posts are crossposted, but the majority aren't... ***

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Thanks Neil. Never came across that one.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:42 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Star Warp Magazine 'Apes' article

> Came across a magazine from the late 70's the other day that I had
> neverheard of before called Star Warp.
>
> The issue I obtained has a pretty good POTA article in it which I have
> scanned and added to the files section. (I had to 'doctor' the last
> fewpages to fit the format.)
>
> Neil
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:22 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

 I doubt this new LOGAN'S RUN will be that good.  For one, the story is now dated!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff K.

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:34 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

  Well, HD isn't going to take over any time soon with this crap going on.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: RedAce^

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

I  believe for the time being, that regular dvd's will continue to be made, since most households have standard dvd players. However, as HD becomes more and more popular, one may be forced to own either a machine that supports both formats, or two machines, one of each format. Personally, I do not own HD in any form  what so ever. I was one of the original Beta owners, I still have 3 working Beta machines, but they only collect dust these days. I still have some VHS as well, but most are or have been converted to DVD. The ones I purchased as originals cannot be converted to DVD so they sit on a shelf gathering dust, while I watch my dvd's. You can see from my history, I have been involved, as most of us my age have, with most every format that has come along. I even had 8mm laserdisc at one point. I have Star Wars in every format and every time it cost me a minimum of $30 - $40. I believe that HD is a stepping stone as have been other formats. And, that soon, something bigger, clearer, and better will be on the horizon. But, not until they milk the market for HD, and Blueray. Just my humble opinion.

 

RedAce^ aka Wasitchu 

----- Original Message -----

From: mwhitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:51 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

This is sad – these greedy bastards have enough money to make without us having another Beta/VHS scenario.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2007 2:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

 Recently Neil mentioned the new HD formats. You might have heard there's a big "format war" between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the idea of studios going "exclusive" to one format or the other. Yesterday Paramount and Dreamworks announced they were going to release their movies exclusively on HD-DVD, including hits like "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". Those studios got paid a reported combined $150 million from HD- DVD owner Microsoft for their allegiance plus promotional incentives. Fox and MGM responded by saying their summer hits will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

  The bottom line is this short-term greed is killing a promising new format. The filmmakers are speaking out. Spielberg, who does what he wants, prefers Blu-ray so some of Paramount 's thunder was stolen by the fact that their "Indiana Jones" flicks will have to appear on Blu-Ray too. And now Michael Bay says he won't do "Transformers 2" for Paramount because he doesn't want part of his audience denied his movies.

  So that's the current big movie controversy. Any thoughts?

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:47 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

In a message dated 8/21/2007 7:42:40 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@aol. com writes:

I doubt this new LOGAN'S RUN will be that good.  For one, the story is now dated!

*** Maybe they will up the age of death to 40 or 50 to give the bulk of the film's original audience a new scare...


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Thanks Neil!!

--- PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know
> that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
> PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /Star Warp Vol.1#3 (1978)/Star Warp
> Apes 09.jpg
> Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
>
> Description :
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Star%20Warp%20Vol.1%233%20%281978%29/Star%20Warp%20Apes%2009.jpg

>
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group,
> please visit:
> http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
>
> Regards,
>
> munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: RedAce^

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:17 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

Sure, it will, I give HD another 2 maybe 3 years, and every home in america will be using HD TV.

 

Red.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff K.

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:34 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

  Well, HD isn't going to take over any time soon with this crap going on.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: RedAce^

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

I  believe for the time being, that regular dvd's will continue to be made, since most households have standard dvd players. However, as HD becomes more and more popular, one may be forced to own either a machine that supports both formats, or two machines, one of each format. Personally, I do not own HD in any form  what so ever. I was one of the original Beta owners, I still have 3 working Beta machines, but they only collect dust these days. I still have some VHS as well, but most are or have been converted to DVD. The ones I purchased as originals cannot be converted to DVD so they sit on a shelf gathering dust, while I watch my dvd's. You can see from my history, I have been involved, as most of us my age have, with most every format that has come along. I even had 8mm laserdisc at one point. I have Star Wars in every format and every time it cost me a minimum of $30 - $40. I believe that HD is a stepping stone as have been other formats. And, that soon, something bigger, clearer, and better will be on the horizon. But, not until they milk the market for HD, and Blueray. Just my humble opinion.

 

RedAce^ aka Wasitchu 

----- Original Message -----

From: mwhitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:51 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

This is sad – these greedy bastards have enough money to make without us having another Beta/VHS scenario.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2007 2:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

 Recently Neil mentioned the new HD formats. You might have heard there's a big "format war" between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the idea of studios going "exclusive" to one format or the other. Yesterday Paramount and Dreamworks announced they were going to release their movies exclusively on HD-DVD, including hits like "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". Those studios got paid a reported combined $150 million from HD- DVD owner Microsoft for their allegiance plus promotional incentives. Fox and MGM responded by saying their summer hits will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

  The bottom line is this short-term greed is killing a promising new format. The filmmakers are speaking out. Spielberg, who does what he wants, prefers Blu-ray so some of Paramount 's thunder was stolen by the fact that their "Indiana Jones" flicks will have to appear on Blu-Ray too. And now Michael Bay says he won't do "Transformers 2" for Paramount because he doesn't want part of his audience denied his movies.

  So that's the current big movie controversy. Any thoughts?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Terry Hoknes

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:20 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] HD-DVD heats up REDACE

Attention:  RedAce

 

Beta VCR's are getting harder and harder to find

If you dont need them list them on ebay

People will pay quite nicely for them!

I am also of the Beta generation.  I didnt switch to vhs until 1997

but I still have one good working machine for each format

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: RedAce^

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:17 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

Sure, it will, I give HD another 2 maybe 3 years, and every home in america will be using HD TV.

 

Red.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff K.

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:34 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

  Well, HD isn't going to take over any time soon with this crap going on.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: RedAce^

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

I  believe for the time being, that regular dvd's will continue to be made, since most households have standard dvd players. However, as HD becomes more and more popular, one may be forced to own either a machine that supports both formats, or two machines, one of each format. Personally, I do not own HD in any form  what so ever. I was one of the original Beta owners, I still have 3 working Beta machines, but they only collect dust these days. I still have some VHS as well, but most are or have been converted to DVD. The ones I purchased as originals cannot be converted to DVD so they sit on a shelf gathering dust, while I watch my dvd's. You can see from my history, I have been involved, as most of us my age have, with most every format that has come along. I even had 8mm laserdisc at one point. I have Star Wars in every format and every time it cost me a minimum of $30 - $40. I believe that HD is a stepping stone as have been other formats. And, that soon, something bigger, clearer, and better will be on the horizon. But, not until they milk the market for HD, and Blueray. Just my humble opinion.

 

RedAce^ aka Wasitchu 

----- Original Message -----

From: mwhitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:51 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

This is sad – these greedy bastards have enough money to make without us having another Beta/VHS scenario.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2007 2:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: HD-DVD heats up

 Recently Neil mentioned the new HD formats. You might have heard there's a big "format war" between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray and the idea of studios going "exclusive" to one format or the other. Yesterday Paramount and Dreamworks announced they were going to release their movies exclusively on HD-DVD, including hits like "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". Those studios got paid a reported combined $150 million from HD- DVD owner Microsoft for their allegiance plus promotional incentives. Fox and MGM responded by saying their summer hits will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.

  The bottom line is this short-term greed is killing a promising new format. The filmmakers are speaking out. Spielberg, who does what he wants, prefers Blu-ray so some of Paramount 's thunder was stolen by the fact that their "Indiana Jones" flicks will have to appear on Blu-Ray too. And now Michael Bay says he won't do "Transformers 2" for Paramount because he doesn't want part of his audience denied his movies.

  So that's the current big movie controversy. Any thoughts?

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I cross post because if I come across something
interesting I want to share it with all POTA fans. I
don't play sides or go for exclusives. I like to
include everyone.

Tim

--- Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> -- It's more posters than just "Hollywood Krueger"
> that do it.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of mlccougar@...
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:41 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Paper Icarus Model
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/21/2007 6:53:27 PM Central
> Daylight Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> A lot of the posts these days seem to be cross
> posted between both
> groups
>
>
>
> *** Not true!
>
> The bulk of Hollywood Krueger's posts are
> crossposted, but the majority
> aren't... ***
> .
>
>

<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m

>

sgId=45938/stime=1187743277/nc1=3858794/nc2=3848607/nc3=3848429>

>
>
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:10 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Paper Icarus Model

I cross post because if I come across something
interesting I want to share it with all POTA fans. I
don't play sides or go for exclusives.

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.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 10:23:14 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Personally I really don't see the point of it all anymore.

*** I do... After all, this group still has the Freedom of Speech, and I hope that continues...


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I am sorry, I never found Logan's Run to be a scare movie. Certainly a sci fi movie, but not a scare movie.

*** I didn't mean it as a "scary" movie... I meant that when the audience seen it , they would have been thinking "Geeze, some day I'll be 30 and seen as 'old and decrepit' ", but now that they're in their 30s, 40s, 50s, they will be scared all over again when they seen their life slipping away from them and seeing that 30 wasn't so old after all...

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I don't see what the problem with it is, Neil ....if
everything gets discussed twice....no harm to anyone
and everyone gets a say,,,,
I hope you don't step out of the DG....I know it takes
a lot to run a group....

Cheers!
Tim

--- Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> I'm all for including everyone and not playing sides
> too Tim.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2007 1:10 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Paper Icarus Model
>
>
>
> I cross post because if I come across something
> interesting I want to share it with all POTA fans. I
> don't play sides or go for exclusives. I like to
> include everyone.
>
> Tim
>
> --- Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond.
> <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com> com>
> wrote:
>
> > -- It's more posters than just "Hollywood Krueger"
> > that do it.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
> Behalf
> > Of mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com> com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:41 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Paper Icarus Model
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/21/2007 6:53:27 PM Central
> > Daylight Time,
> > ntfoster@bigpond. <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com>
> com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A lot of the posts these days seem to be cross
> > posted between both
> > groups
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Not true!
> >
> > The bulk of Hollywood Krueger's posts are
> > crossposted, but the majority
> > aren't... ***
> > .
> >
> >
> <http://geo.yahoo.
>

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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Why do you guys constantly put down your group. The one I care so
much about. It gets old. I love this group and hate it when you two
go through these phases of "what's the point?" & "its no longer fun."
That's the only time its not fun for me.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Actually now might be time to wind up the DG. A lot of the posts
> these days seem to be cross posted between both groups plus we
always
> seem to end up talking about the same things (which mostly seem to
be
> things that we have discussed to death over the years anyway!)
>
> I know I am finding it very difficult to contribute much these days
and
> if something new and interesting is ever brought up it very rarely
seems
> to garner much in the way of interest or responses, so really
what's the
> point in carrying on?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of mwhitty
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:55 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Paper Icarus Model
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We could always sacrifice our freedom and join the POTA group.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
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Rory – have you seen "CHILDREN OF MEN"?

No, I haven't gotten around to it yet.

Now, who is this Sally Whitty?  Are you Michael Whitty's wife?

-- Rory


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Rory – you just hate Logan's Run don't you?!?!?!

Michael



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.html.html In a message dated 8/21/2007 10:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, wasitchu@... writes:

am sorry, I never found Logan's Run to be a scare movie. Certainly a sci fi movie, but not a scare movie.

Red.


What's scary about it is how many people think it's a good movie!

-- Rory


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By the way, there is a unit out that plays both formats Blue Ray and HD. I am not sure where I saw it, but I saw it recently in an ad maybe for Circuit City or Best Buy.

RedAce^


This is my advice to everyone -- keep enjoying your standard DVDs and don't even think about buying a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player until 2009 at least.  Not only will it be more apparent which format to buy, but the price of the players will drop, as will the prices of the 1080p displays you will need to properly see them!

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.html.html In a message dated 8/22/2007 1:50:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I'm all for cross posting.

I cross post for the benefit of all, and because I don't give a rat's ass for the petty squabbles of man!

-- Dr. Zaius


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I am also of the Beta generation.  I didnt switch to vhs until 1997

but I still have one good working machine for each format


And it all looks like shit!  Praise the Lawgiver for DVDs!

-- Rory


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.html.html It's all an allegory onthat generation gap, never trust anyone over thirty, beware a youth revolution stuff that went out with the peace sign and "groovy, man."  LOGAN'S RUN is as passe as..... as Michael York and Jenny Agutter!  You seen Jenny Agutter lately?  Don't go there.  It's been a long time since WALKABOUT, mate!

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.html.htmlHey Everyone,

Look at this possibly quite cool model kit that's coming out this fall.

http://www.moebiusmodels.com/the_seaview.html"

I've been renting the DVDs of the TV series all year and find I really enjoy seeing VTTBOTS again.  Maybe this company will someday do an Icarus model, a really good one.

-- Rory


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Uh oh. I 'went there'. Shoulda listened to you. Haven't really seen
anything of hers besides Werewolf and Logan. She kinda disappeared
after that.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Haristas@...
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:22 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

> It's all an allegory onthat generation gap, never trust anyone
> over thirty,
> beware a youth revolution stuff that went out with the peace sign
> and "groovy,
> man." LOGAN'S RUN is as passe as..... as Michael York and Jenny
> Agutter! You
> seen Jenny Agutter lately? Don't go there. It's been a long time
> since
> WALKABOUT, mate!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

In a message dated 8/21/2007 10:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, wasitchu@optonline. net writes:

am sorry, I never found Logan's Run to be a scare movie. Certainly a sci fi movie, but not a scare movie.

Red.


What's scary about it is how many people think it's a good movie!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] (OT) Anyone remember the Seaview?

Hey Everyone,

Look at this possibly quite cool model kit that's coming out this fall.

http://www.moebiusm odels.com/ the_seaview..html"

I've been renting the DVDs of the TV series all year and find I really enjoy seeing VTTBOTS again.  Maybe this company will someday do an Icarus model, a really good one.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

Uh oh. I 'went there'. Shoulda listened to you. Haven't really seen
anything of hers besides Werewolf and Logan. She kinda disappeared
after that.

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Maybe they could get Michael York to do the Ustinov
role! and Farrah could make a cameo!

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> It's all an allegory onthat generation gap, never
> trust anyone over thirty,
> beware a youth revolution stuff that went out with
> the peace sign and "groovy,
> man." LOGAN'S RUN is as passe as..... as Michael
> York and Jenny Agutter! You
> seen Jenny Agutter lately? Don't go there. It's
> been a long time since
> WALKABOUT, mate!
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> **************************************
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anyone have a recent pic of her?

--- Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> -- Maybe she seems to have disappeared over there,
> but she has never
> stopped appearing in stuff in the UK especially on
> TV. She has been in
> something nearly every year since then up until now
> which isn't to
> shabby for an aging actress these days.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dario Sciola
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:02 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake
>
>
>
> Uh oh. I 'went there'. Shoulda listened to you.
> Haven't really seen
> anything of hers besides Werewolf and Logan. She
> kinda disappeared
> after that.
>
> .
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:07 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

In a message dated 8/21/2007 9:18:48 PM Central Daylight Time, wasitchu@optonline. net writes:

I am sorry, I never found Logan's Run to be a scare movie. Certainly a sci fi movie, but not a scare movie.

*** I didn't mean it as a "scary" movie... I meant that when the audience seen it , they would have been thinking "Geeze, some day I'll be 30 and seen as 'old and decrepit' ", but now that they're in their 30s, 40s, 50s, they will be scared all over again when they seen their life slipping away from them and seeing that 30 wasn't so old after all...


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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:22 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

It's all an allegory onthat generation gap, never trust anyone over thirty, beware a youth revolution stuff that went out with the peace sign and "groovy, man."  LOGAN'S RUN is as passe as..... as Michael York and Jenny Agutter!  You seen Jenny Agutter lately?  Don't go there.  It's been a long time since WALKABOUT, mate!

-- Rory


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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:22 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

It's all an allegory onthat generation gap, never trust anyone over thirty, beware a youth revolution stuff that went out with the peace sign and "groovy, man."  LOGAN'S RUN is as passe as..... as Michael York and Jenny Agutter!  You seen Jenny Agutter lately?  Don't go there.  It's been a long time since WALKABOUT, mate!

-- Rory


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----- Original Message -----

From: Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:41 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: HD-DVD heats up REDACE

Yeah – it’s hilarious how many people buy a BR or HD DVD player and think they can get away with hooking it up to any old TV.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2007 3:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: HD-DVD heats up REDACE

In a message dated 8/21/2007 10:31:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, wasitchu@optonline. net writes:

By the way, there is a unit out that plays both formats Blue Ray and HD. I am not sure where I saw it, but I saw it recently in an ad maybe for Circuit City or Best Buy.

RedAce^


This is my advice to everyone -- keep enjoying your standard DVDs and don't even think about buying a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player until 2009 at least.  Not only will it be more apparent which format to buy, but the price of the players will drop, as will the prices of the 1080p displays you will need to properly see them!

-- Rory


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.html In a message dated 8/22/2007 12:45:21 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

What's scary about it is how many people think it's a good movie!

*** I'd tend to agree with you... It's moderately entertaining at best, but it's nowhere near the scope of PLANET... It's (Logan's) soundtrack is probably it's saving grace...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Paper Icarus Model

Why do you guys constantly put down your group. The one I care so
much about. It gets old. I love this group and hate it when you two
go through these phases of "what's the point?" & "its no longer fun."
That's the only time its not fun for me.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:22 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Logan's Run" remake

It's all an allegory onthat generation gap, never trust anyone over thirty, beware a youth revolution stuff that went out with the peace sign and "groovy, man."  LOGAN'S RUN is as passe as..... as Michael York and Jenny Agutter!  You seen Jenny Agutter lately?  Don't go there.  It's been a long time since WALKABOUT,

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:33 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: HD-DVD heats up REDACE

In a message dated 8/21/2007 10:31:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, wasitchu@optonline. net writes:

By the way, there is a unit out that plays both formats Blue Ray and HD. I am not sure where I saw it, but I saw it recently in an ad maybe for Circuit City or Best Buy.

RedAce^


This is my advice to everyone -- keep enjoying your standard DVDs and don't even think about buying a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player until 2009 at least.  Not only will it be more apparent which format to buy, but the price of the players will drop, as will the prices of the 1080p displays you will need to properly see them!

-- Rory


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http://www.theaspectratio.net/bestfilms60s1.htm


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In a message dated 8/22/2007 4:06:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- I remember it, the sub that could never work in reality because of all that glass!

 

Neil

 

The new generation of subs don't even have periscopes.

They have a camera on a snorkel that projects to a

screen, much like the viewscreens on Star Trek.

 

 

 

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Do you think kids are sneaking into this group like an R Rated Movie

for the more adult content? When I was a kid, I wasn't

much interested in having my virgin ears protected.

I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Can

you imagine my surprise when I found out it was

only sex, violence and rude words.  You got the

same stuff on the evening news, only it was in

a boring format, so you didn't have to try and

keep kids from watching it.  They avoided it

like the plague naturally if cartoons were on.

 

In a message dated 8/22/2007 10:29:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

What he said!

It really is silly that we need to have 2 groups.  However, while there is a group that gags contributors, this group will always be here.

Michael

 

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You know what? I take offense at that....

I happen to like Scrolls a lot and in fact have
contributed an interesting interview for an upcoming
issue with Jacqueline Scott from "The Good Seeds"....
I am looking forward to hear what Paula Crist has to
say, as well as anything else that Linda, Creber or
even fucking Tim Burton has to say......

I'm just about to bow out of DG because of this
bashing....
If you're kidding, say so....
I'm tired of this shit.....

Tim

--- Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
wrote:

> Some fiendish lurker tells me that Simian Scrotums
> is doing an interview
> with Paula Christ!
>
>
>
> Well that's SO fucking exciting!!! I almost burst a
> blood vessel!
>
>
>
> It's almost as exciting as their interviews with the
> ADVENTURE comics artist
> (dunno his name and there's a reason for that!!!!!).
>
>
>
> What makes it worse is they are seeming to not only
> GET these no-names but
> they essentially say ONE LINE about POTA (and it's
> usually "I try to forget
> about that!") and then you get to read 3-4 pages
> about what they have done
> OTHER THAN APES!!!!
>
>
>
> Oh man - that is just SHIT!
>
>
>
> Now listen up you GENUINE ape fans! I want to know
> WHO is out there who we
> should REALLY interview and WHAT WE SHOULD ASK
> THEM!!!!
>
>
>
> And don't anyone say Tim fucking Burton!!!!
>
>
>
> Or Linda fucking AIR HEAD Moonbeam either!
>
>
>
> And if you say Bill Creber - THEN GIVE ME A QUESTION
> HE HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN
> ASKED A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES!!!!!
>
>
>
> Michael fucking Whitty
>
>
>
>
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.html.html In a message dated 8/24/2007 8:04:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Plenty to discuss here!

Yeah, let's argue time loops and the quality -- or lack of it -- of LOGAN'S RUN for the umpteenth million times!


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And if you say Bill Creber – THEN GIVE ME A QUESTION HE HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN ASKED A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES!!!!!

How about, "Was Lewis Creber (art director on such shows as "Perry Mason," and who died in 1966) your father?"  Or, "You mention how low the budget was on BENEATH, but don't you wish you had more money on PLANET too, and could have made Ape City larger?  Where else could you have used a larger budget on PLANET?"  And, "What are your remembrances of Emil Kosa, Jr. and his matte work at Fox?"

-- Rory


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I was going through some old pictures the other day, (from the real film
days!) and I found this picture that I took back in 1992 at the Wax Museum
here in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Sorry it isn't very clear. They made
their beards really long! I'm not sure if they meant this to be Cornelius
and Zira, but it doesn't really look like them very much. Anyway, for
what's it's worth... you may upload if you wish.

Melinda

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