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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rubalcava
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: An old Dan Morgan 'Apes' video surfaces...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
>
> Nice work, Tom!!! Have you done more Apes since??
>
> Tim
>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/23/08, Tom Rubalcava <tom@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Tom Rubalcava <tom@...>
> > Subject: [PotaDG] An old Dan Morgan 'Apes' video surfaces...
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 3:19 PM
> > Dan and I have been digitally archiving bunches of photos
> > and video as
> > we are trying to put the finishing touches on our website.
> > You never
> > know what you'll find when you get down to doing this
> > sort of thing.
> > Oh, how time flies!
> >
> > Here's a link to the youtube posting:
> > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=4q0dpEm71ZU
> >
> > Happy Holidays everyone!
> > -Tom
>
Hey thanks guys! The 80s hairstyle on me makes me laugh. Dan was such
ham with the nose twitches.

Tim: Only Cornelius so far, although we're always trying to improve
the sculpture and hair pieces, perhaps you've seen the latest one on
our website (http://blendededge- fx.trubalcava. com/). It won't be long
before we have a Zira.
Stay tuned!

-Tom

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Dear Lord, Nnnooooo!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> "The 'Star Wars' films are set to be performed as a musical that will
> hit London next year. 'Star Wars: A Musical Journey' has been signed
off
> by the films' creator George Lucas, with the two-hour show set to be
> performed at the London O2 Arena on April 10, reports Eonline.com."
>
> So if it's good enough for Star Wars why not a POTA musical as well?
> There's already a couple of tunes written for one! ;-)
>
> Neil
>

I'm glad you managed to preserve this footage - was this one of your
first public appearances with the Cornelius make-up?

Tom - I put this page together a little while back (and probably broke
copyright with all the pictures I used, but it's easy for anyone to
edit/remove these pages):

http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Meet_Zira_and_Cornelius

I hope it's reasonably accurate and fair?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Rubalcava" <tom@...> wrote:
>
> Dan and I have been digitally archiving bunches of photos and video as
> we are trying to put the finishing touches on our website. You never
> know what you'll find when you get down to doing this sort of thing.
> Oh, how time flies!
>
> Here's a link to the youtube posting:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q0dpEm71ZU
>
> Happy Holidays everyone!
> -Tom
>

I'm off to my parents farm for the holiday season, so..

Happy Christmas everyone!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Holidays!!!

I'm off to my parents farm for the holiday season, so..

Happy Christmas everyone!

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I'm up in the freezing Northeast....heading back to the warm(er) South on Monday! Have a great holiday everyone.....worldwide.......!! Tim --- On Wed, 12/24/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote: From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Happy Holidays!!! To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:14 AM Have a good one.   Neil   -----Original Message----- From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:38 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Holidays!!! I'm off to my parents farm for the holiday season, so.. Happy Christmas everyone! .

From http://celebs-hollywood.blogspot.com/2008/12/brad-pitt-movie-trivia.html"

" He has also appeared in two movies with the number twelve in the title, Ocean's Twelve (2004) and Twelve Monkeys (1995). His favorite movies are Planet of the Apes (1968) and Saturday Night Fever (1977). "

Hello,

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Thanks Neil! The perfect Christmas Gift!! Tim --- On Wed, 12/24/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote: From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Spaceship paper Plane To: "PotaDG" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 7:59 PM Merry Christmas all.   For a bit of Holiday fun I have uploaded a little project to the files section that I have been working on (very slowly!) that I finally completed that you can have a bit of easy fun making!   Neil

Merry Christmas Everybody.

Donna

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Wow!  You can really see how different the color of Zira's jacket is.

 

 

In a message dated 12/23/2008 11:25:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

Here's a headline on a fake news site but there is no story!

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That will go great with the paper Cornelius that was posted a while
back. Thanks.

That old Dan Morgan video was a lot of fun too.

Happy Holidays ya bastards!! ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Merry Christmas all.
>
> For a bit of Holiday fun I have uploaded a little project to the files
> section that I have been working on (very slowly!) that I finally
> completed that you can have a bit of easy fun making!
>
> Neil
>

The pics of Tim's Apes collection on Hunter's site are truly amazing.
I still hate you. ;)

No, no,no,no,no,no,no John... don't HATE,  become friends with him... then when he's away getting you some nice fresh squeezed lemon-ade, you back up your U-Haul and piece by piece place them in the truck and soon before he's done squeezing the lemons for your fresh squeezed lemon-ade,  it'll be yours!!! MMMHHHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... oh crap... that would suck for Tim, but it'll be his fault for making you envy  his truly wonderful collection (I mean YOUR collection!!)!!!!   -Chris --- On Fri, 12/26/08, John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote: From: John <DrZaiusDavis@...> Subject: [PotaDG] Tim you bastard. :) To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 9:25 AM The pics of Tim's Apes collection on Hunter's site are truly amazing. I still hate you. ;)

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Thanks to Jeff (RedSpy), a PDF of an article about "Conquest" from
FAMOUS MONTERS #95 has been added to my site.

Also thanks to Jeff, I've started a new "merchandise ads" page. Jeff
contributed several black-and-white ads from various '70s sci-fi
magazines.

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

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> Thanks to Jeff (RedSpy), a PDF of an article about "Conquest" from
> FAMOUS MONTERS #95 has been added to my site.

Again thanks to Jeff, a higher-resolution (200 DPI) PDF has replaced
the version I added yesterday.

https://pota.goatley.com/magazines/fm95.pdf

Hunter

Neil:

We had gone to two comic/sci-fi conventions in the Bay Area by the
time the show aired. We met John Stanley during one of those
appearances, and not long after - we met Paula Crist.

And I must say, Dan and I were flattered by the "Meet Zira and
Cornelius" write up and that you included us in this account of their
history. Just a mention of my blog where the photo(s) originated from
is enough to keep from any copyright infringements as far as I am
concerned. The article itself is indeed accurate and fair, thanks for
asking.

-Tom

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> I'm glad you managed to preserve this footage - was this one of your
> first public appearances with the Cornelius make-up?
>
> Tom - I put this page together a little while back (and probably broke
> copyright with all the pictures I used, but it's easy for anyone to
> edit/remove these pages):
>
> http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Meet_Zira_and_Cornelius
>
> I hope it's reasonably accurate and fair?
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Rubalcava" <tom@> wrote:
> >
> > Dan and I have been digitally archiving bunches of photos and video as
> > we are trying to put the finishing touches on our website. You never
> > know what you'll find when you get down to doing this sort of thing.
> > Oh, how time flies!
> >
> > Here's a link to the youtube posting:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q0dpEm71ZU
> >
> > Happy Holidays everyone!
> > -Tom
> >
>

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Wendy

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: goathunter@...
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:12:50 -0600
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.


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Wendy 

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: patrickmichaeltilton@...
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:19:35 +0000
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Caesar as a Telepath


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Wendy

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: patrickmichaeltilton@...
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:25:43 +0000
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Caesar as a Telepath


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Wendy

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: sallywhitty@...
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:27:20 +1000
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Caesar as a Telepath


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Due to popular demand, James has created a second 2009 calendar using
images taken mostly from the movies instead of the TV show. Both
calendars are available from my site.

Jeff (RedSpy) also contributed an interview with Mark Lenard from
the January 1981 issue of Starlog.

Finally, new merchandise ads from Jeff and Mike R. have been posted.

Thanks, James, Jeff, and Mike!

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

Thank you Tom. I've updated that page now, with links to your sites
and the YouTube video.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Rubalcava" <tom@...> wrote:
>
> Neil:
>
> We had gone to two comic/sci-fi conventions in the Bay Area by the
> time the show aired. We met John Stanley during one of those
> appearances, and not long after - we met Paula Crist.
>
> And I must say, Dan and I were flattered by the "Meet Zira and
> Cornelius" write up and that you included us in this account of
their
> history. Just a mention of my blog where the photo(s) originated
from
> is enough to keep from any copyright infringements as far as I am
> concerned. The article itself is indeed accurate and fair, thanks
for
> asking.
>
> -Tom
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm glad you managed to preserve this footage - was this one of
your
> > first public appearances with the Cornelius make-up?
> >
> > Tom - I put this page together a little while back (and probably
broke
> > copyright with all the pictures I used, but it's easy for anyone
to
> > edit/remove these pages):
> >
> > http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Meet_Zira_and_Cornelius
> >
> > I hope it's reasonably accurate and fair?
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Rubalcava" <tom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan and I have been digitally archiving bunches of photos and
video as
> > > we are trying to put the finishing touches on our website. You
never
> > > know what you'll find when you get down to doing this sort of
thing.
> > > Oh, how time flies!
> > >
> > > Here's a link to the youtube posting:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q0dpEm71ZU
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays everyone!
> > > -Tom
> > >
> >
>

More from Jeff: more merchandise ads; two brief TV series mentions in
Famous Monsters #113 and Famous Monsters #118; an NRA parody poster
from Mad; and a brief Conquest blurb in The Monster Times
(1972-04-12). (The latter four were all added to the Magazine Articles
page. Thanks, Jeff!

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

Planet of the Apes
Celebrating Darwin's 200th Birthday
Classic Films: Evolution in Cinema
Tuesday, January 6, 1:30 pm

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Jeff has sent in more merchandise ads! Check 'em out!

I love seeing these. I used to drool over these ads in the backs of
magazines and comics when I was a kid....

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

yes if only I had bought all that crap THEN!!!!

--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] Still more additions
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: pota@yahoogroups.com, friends_and_fugitives@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:07 PM
> Jeff has sent in more merchandise ads! Check 'em out!
>
> I love seeing these. I used to drool over these ads in the
> backs of
> magazines and comics when I was a kid....
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter

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In a message dated 1/2/09 11:08:23 AM Central Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:

I used to drool over these ads in the backs of magazines and comics when I was a kid...

 

Have you tried to correct that "now", or don't you collect? Either one is cool...

 

 

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> In a message dated 1/2/09 11:08:23 AM Central Standard Time,
> goathunter@... writes:

>> I used to drool over these ads in the backs of magazines and comics when I
>> was a kid...

> Have you tried to correct that "now", or don't you collect? Either one is
> cool...

I have a handful of Apes items, but I don't have storage space to
collect everything (or else I would). I collect too many other things
to have space for it all, unfortunately.

So now I still drool over the ads. 8-)

Hunter
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goathunter@... http://www.goatley.com/hunter/

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In a message dated 1/3/09 7:46:00 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 Harry at aintitcool picked the POTA 'rays as the 3rd best of the year, beating out the Godfathers and, well, 6 others.

APES deserves to beat out THE GODFATHER films: Those films are some of the  most over-rated films of all time... I only wish the DIRTY HARRY box had beat them on that list too... ( I wonder how the films did in terms of actual sales figures and not some guys personal films list...) And as far as THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL that film is "okay" at best, but boring as hell...

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Odd that his #1 choice on Blu-Ray is a B&W film.

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/3/2009 7:46:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

 Harry at aintitcool picked the POTA 'rays as the 3rd best of the year, beating out the Godfathers and, well, 6 others. The only two to top it were "Sleeping Beauty" and another Fox sci-fi movie.

  http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 39648

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It insists upon itself. ; )

 

 

In a message dated 1/3/2009 9:01:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

APES deserves to beat out THE GODFATHER films: Those films are some of the  most over-rated films of all time...

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I disagree.

2001 is boring.

This is just paced.

 

In a message dated 1/3/2009 9:01:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

And as far as THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL that film is "okay" at best, but boring as hell...

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You could say the same about the beginning of POTA.

 

 

In a message dated 1/3/2009 9:01:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

And as far as THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL that film is "okay" at best, but boring as hell...

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:16 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Blu-Rays believed boffo

Hi Jeff

Great to have you back – WELCOME!

Yes, I agree the USA POTA Set is remarkable.

Being a Blu-Ray convert, I struggle to justify re-collecting al my DVDs. However, I have decided to because the quality improvement is equal to the gap between VHS and DVD.  But it’s killing me!  The TERNIATOR on BR here in AUS is only the theatrical version and I know there’s an “ULTIMATE” DVD with FAR more on it.

And that’s the norm – just the better quality picture, but no further reason to switch.

Whereas the POTA set is a REAL reason to switch.  Packed with extras, and the only way you’ll have that HD version of CONQUEST on DVD.

I think we are VERY lucky!!!

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 10:16 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Blu-Rays believed boffo

 Harry at aintitcool picked the POTA 'rays as the 3rd best of the year, beating out the Godfathers and, well, 6 others. The only two to top it were "Sleeping Beauty" and another Fox sci-fi movie.

  http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 39648

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*** I don't agree at all... The beginning of PLANET gives a lot of insight into Taylor's character, plus it helps set up the story... Mort Abrahams said that Schaffner (I think) said the beginning of the film "sets the mood, the tone and objection of the film" or something like that... I agree with that... ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/3/09 11:17:26 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

You could say the same about the beginning of POTA.

 

 

In a message dated 1/3/2009 9:01:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

And as far as THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL that film is "okay" at best, but boring as hell...

 

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**** Oh, I agree "2001" is even more boring...

 

I don't care that TDTESS is "paced", I'd find it boring regardless of whatever was going on... It's a slow, boring story. ***

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/3/09 11:17:02 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

I disagree.

2001 is boring.

This is just paced.

 

In a message dated 1/3/2009 9:01:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

And as far as THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL that film is "okay" at best, but boring as hell...

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 9:41 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Blu-Rays believed boffo

Yeah that’s (one of!) my problem(s?) Jeff – I’m a quality nut!

I feel there’s no point watching something on DVD now if I can see it on BR because the picture, and sound, is just so far superior.

Sally watched Grey’s Anatomy on BR the other day and you could read the “scribble” on their PROP notepads!  WOW!  You could actually read it and see it was gobbledygook!

I guess the next thing is where you step into the picture!

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 3:57 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Blu-Rays believed boffo

  Hey Michael,

  I don't have the POTAs yet but I do have blu-ray (and HD-DVD, which I dived into when it sank and got a player and a lot of movies CHEAP). The quality is just insane and I can only imagine what "Apes" will be like.

  But there's no need to rebuy everything. It still plays the old DVDs. Though I have to admit DVD is like VHS after watching blu-ray.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:16 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Blu-Rays believed boffo

Hi Jeff

Great to have you back – WELCOME!

Yes, I agree the USA POTA Set is remarkable.

Being a Blu-Ray convert, I struggle to justify re-collecting al my DVDs. However, I have decided to because the quality improvement is equal to the gap between VHS and DVD.  But it’s killing me!  The TERNIATOR on BR here in AUS is only the theatrical version and I know there’s an “ULTIMATE” DVD with FAR more on it.

And that’s the norm – just the better quality picture, but no further reason to switch.

Whereas the POTA set is a REAL reason to switch.  Packed with extras, and the only way you’ll have that HD version of CONQUEST on DVD.

I think we are VERY lucky!!!

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 10:16 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Blu-Rays believed boffo

 Harry at aintitcool picked the POTA 'rays as the 3rd best of the year, beating out the Godfathers and, well, 6 others. The only two to top it were "Sleeping Beauty" and another Fox sci-fi movie.

  http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 39648

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In a message dated 1/4/09 9:49:24 AM Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

Hopefully they'll continue a sequel to 2010 someday.

Like what: "2012: The Year It's All Over"?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> Hopefully they'll continue a sequel to 2010 someday.

There are actually two more books after 2010, which have never been
filmed. 2061 is not a bad book, though I'm not sure how exciting it
would be on film. 3001 just sucked--it was about Frank Poole, the
astronaut HAL sent flying out into space by cutting his lifeline. The
book was pointless and forgettable, and the ending was just as
ridiculous as that of Independence Day.

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*** And they can stay that way... The only reason I can think of to do these as films would be to show that a film can be "quiet" (w/o explosions going off every five minutes)... Hollywood seems to have forgotten that aspect of film making: Substance over flash. ***

 

 

In a message dated 1/4/09 6:49:11 PM Central Standard Time, handleyr@... writes:

There are actually two more books after 2010, which have never been filmed.

 

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http://www.411mania.com/movies/dvd_reviews/92535/Planet-of-the-Apes-
Blu-Ray-Review.htm


1968 produced two memorable science fiction films. One of these
movies is considered by many to be the greatest science fiction film
of all time. The other is Planet of the Apes. However, if you look
closely at both films, you will see that Planet of the Apes shares
much in common with 2001: A Space Odyssey and is as important an
addition to the genre as the Stanley Kubrick masterpiece.

Charlton Heston is George Taylor, an astronaut aboard a spacecraft
very similar to the one in 2001. When the film starts he explains, in
exposition, that he is on a mission exploring a theory that as the
crew of the ship travels through space they age at a decreased rate
than the people remaining on Earth. We also get a look at his
personality as he expresses his disdain with the human preconception
of greed and war. He finally enters into a sleep chamber, joining his
three fellow crew members for a long nap.

Following the ship crashing on an unknown planet, the next thirty
minutes of the film focuses on the three astronauts (the fourth died
upon arrival) as they attempt to figure out what kind of planet they
have landed on. The first clue they find is that plant life is unable
to grow in the section of the planet they landed. They walk for a
great distance and soon find an area with plant life once again
before finally discovering what appear to be fellow humans.

These humans are all dressed as cavemen and none seem to be able to
speak. They act as savages and Taylor jokes that if everyone on this
planet is like this, they will rule it in short time. Unfortunately,
he would quickly discover he will never be able to control this
planet when they are attacked by a group of apes, on horseback, with
guns. The apes are hunters and kill many of the humans, torture
others and capture the rest. Following the attack, Taylor is amazed
when he realizes the apes can speak.

The movie rises above its reputation thanks to the political and
racial undertones in the story. When you listen to the way the apes
speak of humans, it is clear the influence the filmmakers took from
such current events as the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.
and the race riots occurring at the time. There are many examples of
the dissatisfaction with the war in Vietnam and the entire climax
focuses the fear of the general public onto the development of the
nuclear arms program. During the inquisition of Taylor, there is a
strong similarity to the actions of the House Un-American Activities
Committee.

The final incident is obvious as one of the screenwriters was
blacklisted Michael Wilson. Wilson and Rod Serling, who added much of
the racial undertones, sprinkled the film with so many ideological
theories that the movie becomes much more than a simple action movie
concerning a man overwhelmed by a world ran by apes. These apes make
comments that are similar to how racists speak about any minority and
it is clear the idea of role reversal is meant to bring this attitude
into the light.

None of this would matter if the acting were not up to par. When I
first viewed Planet of the Apes, I believed Charlton Heston was
annoyingly over-the-top. During the opening narration I still grow
annoyed at Heston’s acting and feel he is just chewing scenery.
However, once Taylor reaches the planet, his overacting is much more
in tone with the rest of the story. When he finally lets it be known
to the apes he can speak and yells “get your hands off me you damn
dirty apes” it couldn’t be any more perfect. Both Roddy McDowall and
Kim Hunter are also fantastic in their roles as the apes sympathetic
to the plight of Taylor. Maurice Evans lends just the right amount of
arrogance and danger to the role of antagonist Dr. Zaius. It is a
quality cast from top to bottom.

The special effects were quite good for 1968 but there are points in
this high definition transfer that flaws appear. The mouths of the
apes are a problem as they never really move with the dialogue and
when Zira and Cornelius kiss at one point it looks ridiculous. This
can all be overlooked because even these flaws add charm to the film.
The movie was one of a kind and was a precursor to Star Wars, a later
franchise that would take the ideas of Planet of the Apes marketing
and run with it. While it may not be as good as the superior 2001: A
Space Odyssey, it remains just as important a landmark in cinema
history.


The Video


The picture looks magnificent for a movie forty years old. Everything
is crisp and clear and, while there are still some scratches and dust
particles, it still looks great. This is a perfect example of why all
movies should use the 50 GB Dual Layer discs.


The Audio


The sound is presented in 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio. There is also an
English mono track, a Spanish mono track and French 5.1 Dolby
Digital. The sound is great and the music score, so important for
this movie, sounds really solid as presented here. My only problem is
the sound effects during action scenes are loud and pronounced but
the dialogue is softer and it is hard to keep the volume at an even
level in either instance.


The Packaging


The Blu-Ray comes in the familiar slim blue case. When you put it in
the player, it opens with an animated introduction to the movie by
The Lawgiver. When the options screen comes up, various arty looking
images are shown including one that spoils the end reveal of the
movie for anyone who has been living in a cave the last 40 years.


The Extras


Lawgiver Introduction - This is not the same introduction that opens
the Blu-Ray upon its start. It is the same animation but explains the
movie and tells the story of when the talking man fell from the skies
to bring the end of days.

Commentary by Actors Roddy McDowell, Kim Hunter and Natalie Trundy,
and Makeup Artist John Chambers - This would be a nice commentary
track if there were not long periods of silence. There is some
interesting information but it was disappointing to have so much
blank space.

Commentary by Composer Jerry Goldsmith - This track is just as bad as
the actor’s commentary with extremely long periods of silence as
well. Both tracks could have been combined as one rather easily.

Text Commentary by Eric Greene, Author of Planet of the Apes as
American Myth - There is a lot of good information given in this text
commentary. It is also nice because you can watch the text commentary
while listening to the audio commentary tracks.

Science of the Apes BONUS VIEW - This is a Blu Ray exclusive, the
fourth feature to watch during movie playback. This is a picture-in-
picture feature where we hear from scientists, educators and experts
in the space program. Unlike the other tracks which deal with the
film itself, this one deals with the scientific theories and ideas
behind what we see in the movie. It is pretty technical stuff, but
explained in a manner anyone can understand. If you like learning,
this is a good track. I like it.

Beyond the Forbidden Zone Adventure Game - This is a desk top game
that is full of very hard questions. Basically, the only way you can
succeed at this game is to be a genius or to have watched the BONUS
VIEW where all the answers lie. If you didn’t pay attention to the
BONUS VIEW, you will suck at this game.

Public Service Announcement from ANSA (06:06) - A fake informational
feature presented by the fictional ANSA organization from the movie.
I guess its purpose is to explain why the astronauts were sent on
this mission to begin with. It also talks about the “scientific
theory” of the astronauts not aging as fast in space.

Evolution of the Apes Featurette (23:37) - This is a feature narrated
by James Brolin tracing the path from Pierre Boulle’s novel to the
actual movie franchise. There is a great difference between the novel
and the book, as the apes in the novel replaced the humans who
slipped into apathy. The world in the novel is much the same as the
real world, except with apes in control. Much is spoken about
screenwriter Rod Serling’s (The Twilight Zone) influence in adding
the ideas of racism and discrimination to the story. Serling also
came up with the twist ending, which was also not in the novel.
Michael Wilson came aboard and made the changes eliminating the real
world look to make the movie more affordable to the weakened studios.
This is a great feature covering how a novel is adapted into a
feature film.

Impact of the Apes Featurette (11:39) - Various people (actors,
writers, normal Joes) talk about how Planet of the Apes impacted
them. It goes into a big discussion of the merchandising of the
franchise and how it is responsible for the wide merchandising of
movies today.

Behind the Planet of the Apes Documentary with Interactive Mode
(2:06:44) - At over two hours, this documentary is hosted by Roddy
McDowall. If you watch it with the Interactive Mode on, the
documentary will be seen in a small box on the left side of the
screen while interactive choices are presented on the right side to
read along with the documentary. The documentary is the same one that
was on the 35th Anniversary Edition. It is a comprehensive and
fantastic feature that focuses on every aspect of the film and talks
to just about everyone involved. It is up there with the best
documentaries I have seen about the making of any film.

Behind the Planet of the Apes Promo (02:19) - This is the trailer for
the documentary.

The Archives of the Apes - The first feature in this section is the
Original Makeup Test with Edward G. Robinson [1966] (09:34). This is
a narration of the original novel’s story with drawings used to show
the story. Around three minutes in, we get the actual acting scenes
with Charlton Heston (as Taylor) and Edward G. Robinson (as Dr.
Zaius) playing out the scene. This was a scene used to sell the
movie. James Brolin also appears as a young ape in the scene.

The second item here is Roddy McDowall’s On-Set Footage (20:14).
During the first eight minutes, we witness, step-by-step, the makeup
process as McDowall is transformed into the ape Cornelius. We then
see behind the scenes footage throughout the shoot. This is all
overlaid with music and no dialogue. Next up is Dailies and Outtakes
(19:50), all with no audio. This shows a lot of footage but there is
no music overlaid or anything, it is completely silent. N.A.T.O.
Presentation [1967] (10:30) is a cliff notes version of the film,
kind of a series of clips in order throughout the movie.

Next up is a Vintage Planet of the Apes Featurette [1968] (04:42). It
is a full screen featurette with a voice over narration explaining
what you are seeing. You get to see here how the face casts are made.
That’s about the only interesting thing about this feature. Finally,
we get the Teaser Trailer (02:18), which calls the movie the year’s
most important film, and the Theatrical Trailer (03:05).

The Galleries of the Apes - Broken into sections, this presents a
gallery. Using the remote, you can view close-ups of images or read
articles you choose. The first section is The Ape, a newspaper from
the ape city with articles such as Big Round-Up Of Human Beasts and
Female Human Selected For Genetic Experiments. These are amusing and
interesting if you are bored and have the time on your hands. Next up
is an Interactive Pressbook. Here you get a number of items including
posters and items from the original press kit. I like this kind of
stuff, so it’s a bonus for me. Advertising is a 30 second montage
cycling through the various posters for the movie. Lobby Cards is a
27 second montage similar to Advertising with still photos from the
movie. Makeup is 48 seconds of pictures of various items used as
makeup in the film. Costume Design Sketches presents 30 seconds of
drawn pictures of characters from the film. Props is 30 seconds of
stills of props used in the movie. Behind-the-Scenes is just what it
claims, clocking in at 1:18 of still photos.


The Film: 9.0/10.0
The Video: 10.0/10.0
The Audio: 8.0/10.0
The Packaging: 10.0/10.0
The Extras: 10.0/10.0


The 411: Planet of the Apes might be remembered as a simple science
fiction action movie pitting man against apes. However, there is much
more to the movie than that simple premise. It is a movie that paints
a striking portrait of racism, prejudice, pacifism, war mongering and
political unrest. With all these ideals at its disposal, it still
manages to present a rip roaring adventure story with loads of
tension and action. It holds up just as well today as it did when it
was released almost forty years ago. This Blu-Ray release presents a
pristine picture that is almost flawless in its presentation. It also
includes all the great features from previous releases plus some
great new HD quality features. With over three hours of extras plus
the various commentary and text tracks, this is a fantastic release
for a great movie.
Final Score: 9.5 [ Amazing ] legend

http://makeupmag.com/news/newsID/372/

Posted: Monday 22 December, 2008

Leo Lotito Jr., a six-time Emmy Award nominee whose Hollywood make-up
career spanned four decades, died Dec. 13 in Los Angeles. He was 86.

According to representatives from Local 706, the West Coast make-up
and hairstylist union, Lotito (who served as a Marine during World
War II) learned make-up techniques from Ern Westmore and joined the
union in 1947. Over the course of his career, Lotito honed his
special make-up skills, excelling (as the union described it)
in “fantastic creatures scaly and furry.” Although he wasn’t
credited, Lotito worked with John Chambers to create the Dr. Zira
make-up for The Planet of the Apes; he also worked on the film’s
sequel. His other film credits include Riders of the Pony Express,
The Terminal Man, Cleopatra Jones, White Line Fever, Butch Cassidy
and the Sundance Kid and Oh, God!

Lotito worked extensively in television as well, on the programs The
Millionaire, The Jack Benny Program, Alfred Hitchcock Presents,
Riverboat, The Virginian, The Blue and the Gray and Mystic Warrior.
He was nominated for an Emmy Award six times and worked with Raquel
Welch, Katharine Hepburn, Spencer Tracy, Gregory Peck, Lana Turner,
George Segal, Robert Redford and Paul Newman.

Lotito directed the make-up department for The Burbank Studios from
the late ‘80s through the early ‘90s. Although he announced his
retirement in 1986, the studio recruited him to run the make-up and
hairstyling department for several years afterward. He traveled
around the world multiple times; in 1979, he was invited to China for
six weeks to teach make-up artists his techniques.

He is survived by his wife Patricia Ann and a daughter, Tricia.
Services will be held 3 p.m. Saturday, Dec. 27, 2008 at the Kingdom
Hall Jehovah Witness, 220 Erbes Rd. in Thousand Oaks, California.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1362-NY-Fashion-Examiner~y2008m12d29-Top-5-
Emerging-Visionaries-of-2008

Christopher Kane Spring 2009 Christopher Kane - The spring 2009
collection was inspired by Planet of the Apes, the Flinstones, and
dinosaurs. Any designer who can find inspiration in oddities not
generally related to fashion and create a solid collection deserves
praise indeed. The dinosaur heavy textures and silhouettes Kane created
are completely new to the fashion pallet.

2010 is due out on Blu-Ray on April 7.

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I personally found 2010 a lot more exciting than 2001. Shame it
hasn't come out on blu ray yet.
> I think the whole 2001 saga has a future. Hopefully they'll
continue a sequel to 2010 someday.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> >

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Greg, do you have a Blu-Ray player?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> 2010 is due out on Blu-Ray on April 7.
>
> Greg
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@> wrote:
> >
> > I personally found 2010 a lot more exciting than 2001. Shame it
> hasn't come out on blu ray yet.
> > I think the whole 2001 saga has a future. Hopefully�they'll
> continue a sequel�to 2010�someday.
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >

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You'd never watch porn again.

That's why beta lost to VHS.

They will have to start shooting

though pantyhose or Vaseline

slathered lenses to get that

"Doris Day" effect again.

 

 

In a message dated 1/4/2009 7:14:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Yeah, you can see everybody's zits and warts now. So much for movie star glamour. There might be a point where things are TOO clear. I shudder to think how the makeup on the TV show would look!

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Except the walk through the desert.

 

 

In a message dated 1/4/2009 8:32:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

With Planet of the Apes there's never a boring moment.

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Me too.  2001 may be a classic,

but 2010 is infinitely more watchable.

 

 

In a message dated 1/4/2009 9:49:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

I personally found 2010 a lot more exciting than 2001.

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It's meant to be boring.  When asked why "The Trek"

was so long, Schaffner replied, "Because it sets the tone

for the entire film."  I agree.  They're supposed to be lost

on an Alien World.  You don't just stroll up to a Starbucks

and ask for a latte.  You have to make the audience believe.

 

 

In a message dated 1/4/2009 9:30:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

I totally disagree. I love that whole trek in the desert.

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Yes. Bought it about a week or so before the Apes Blu-Rays came out.

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...>
wrote:

>
> Greg, do you have a Blu-Ray player?
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" <urko3085@> wrote:
> >
> > 2010 is due out on Blu-Ray on April 7.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I personally found 2010 a lot more exciting than 2001. Shame

it

> > hasn't come out on blu ray yet.
> > > I think the whole 2001 saga has a future. Hopefully�they'll
> > continue a sequel�to 2010�someday.
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > >

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Do you have a TV to match?

I couldn't believe what you have to go through to get full HD
picture...you even need the special $50 cable too!

I had a BR hooked up to a normal TV and/or projector (bought the
player when POTA set was announced).

I watched Conquest on the normal tele then decided I needed a full HD
TV! Then got that hooked up and discovered the DVD player AND the TV
need to be set to the 1028 (is that right) setting...then I
discovered you need a special cable!

But all very worth it!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> Yes. Bought it about a week or so before the Apes Blu-Rays came out.
>
> Greg
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Greg, do you have a Blu-Ray player?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" <urko3085@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 2010 is due out on Blu-Ray on April 7.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I personally found 2010 a lot more exciting than 2001. Shame
> it
> > > hasn't come out on blu ray yet.
> > > > I think the whole 2001 saga has a future. Hopefully�they'll
> > > continue a sequel�to 2010�someday.
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >

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*** They can turn that around: PLANET is the greatest sci-fi film of all time (AND it's one of the all around best films of all time)... 2001 is "memorable" at best, (that is if anyone managed to stay awake thru it to remember it.)

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/4/09 7:50:16 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

1968 produced two memorable science fiction films. One of these
movies is considered by many to be the greatest science fiction film
of all time. The other is Planet of the Apes.

 

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*** That walk thru the desert is not only good, but it's part of the story... Would have you wanted them to go the cheap route and have them stumble across the savages and then the apes within the first five minutes? Would you rather they went the "kiddie film" route and get to the apes right away to satisfy the six year olds who want "adventure" bits, one right after the other? They did all that in the sequels and PLANET was better for not having it... ***

 

In a message dated 1/4/09 9:06:18 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

 

Except the walk through the desert.

 

 

In a message dated 1/4/2009 8:32:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

With Planet of the Apes there's never a boring moment.

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Yeah, I've had an HDTV for several years. While my Blu-Ray player
didn't come with an HDMI cable, the upcpnverting DVD player I bought
a year or two ago had one, so I just swapped out the machines and
used the existing cable.

I agree it's worth it to have the Blu-Ray. Every movie I've bought
since getting the player I've bought on Blu-Ray if it was available
in the format. Much as I'd like to upgrade most of my library I
doubt I will, but there are some films I'll buy again when they're
released on Blu-Ray or if I find them on sale.

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...>
wrote:

>
> Do you have a TV to match?
>
> I couldn't believe what you have to go through to get full HD
> picture...you even need the special $50 cable too!
>
> I had a BR hooked up to a normal TV and/or projector (bought the
> player when POTA set was announced).
>
> I watched Conquest on the normal tele then decided I needed a full

HD

> TV! Then got that hooked up and discovered the DVD player AND the

TV

> need to be set to the 1028 (is that right) setting...then I
> discovered you need a special cable!
>
> But all very worth it!
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" <urko3085@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes. Bought it about a week or so before the Apes Blu-Rays came

out.

> >
> > Greg
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg, do you have a Blu-Ray player?
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" <urko3085@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 2010 is due out on Blu-Ray on April 7.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I personally found 2010 a lot more exciting than 2001.

Shame

> > it
> > > > hasn't come out on blu ray yet.
> > > > > I think the whole 2001 saga has a future.

Hopefully�they'll

> > > > continue a sequel�to 2010�someday.
> > > > >
> > > > > Al
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >

Wow! Excellent makeups, Tom! You should do an orangutan and gorilla
(i.e. Ursus) too. Or would the helmet be too much of a challenge...?

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Rubalcava" <tom@...> wrote:
>
> Dan and I have been digitally archiving bunches of photos and video as
> we are trying to put the finishing touches on our website. You never
> know what you'll find when you get down to doing this sort of thing.
> Oh, how time flies!
>
> Here's a link to the youtube posting:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q0dpEm71ZU
>
> Happy Holidays everyone!
> -Tom
>