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Yeah see, now that you don't have a shot.

I may live with my ex but haven't remarried,

yet, anyway.  So if anyone has a shot . . . But

that's not the point.  The point is . . . it's . . . Hypocrite!  : \

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/26/2009 2:12:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

OK now – to be fair – I gotta say: "PERVERT"!  J

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Thought so.

No actually I had no idea. For some reason I though

he had to sell it before his death because of some

Willie Nelson like tax troubled.  Though now that

I think about it, I'm probably thinking of Redd Foxx.

 

 

In a message dated 1/26/2009 8:12:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

The Sammy Davis junior statue is owned by an actor friend of Roddy's, the other statue seen in a lot of publicity fotos with Dr. Zaius is owned by an collector in Irivne california (last I heard he was looking to sell it $30K) 

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No one can HELP who they fall in love with. Kiefer Sutherland fell in love with Thumper's Girlfriend.  So if anyone is the perv, it's you, for equating an attaching an anthropomorphized fictional character to bestiality.  Shame and congratulations to you sir, for taking an innocent lust that has virtually no sexual connotations whatsoever and turning it into something dirty.  Lets crucify the headless corpse of Walt Disney while we're at it, shall we, for drawing those talking abominations so beautifully in the first place.   :)

 

 

In a message dated 1/26/2009 11:37:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Kinky sounds better.  :)

Girls just can't help but fall in love with a gentleman. 

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When you have a crush on somebody that doesn't mean that it's rutting season.   20 years ago, yes.  Not now.  Companionship is a better term. 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Well that makes sense.

 

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I don't think there's enough makeup in the world

to make an ape attractive.  Conversely, I don't think

you could make Kim Hunter unattractive, not matter

how much makeup you used.  That's the point I made.

 

 

In a message dated 1/25/2009 9:15:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I just don't get people being sexually attracted to apes – albeit apes in make-up.

I've added two new magazine articles to my Apes site:

- Lee's Guide to PotA (Thanks, Tim!)

- A profile of John Chambers from "Make-Up Artist" (Thanks, Jeff B!)

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

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Well considering some members said never heard of Lee's , i think its
quite informative .
Keep up the good work.
Thanks
Mark

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>
> I've added two new magazine articles to my Apes site:
>
> - Lee's Guide to PotA (Thanks, Tim!)
>
> - A profile of John Chambers from "Make-Up Artist" (Thanks, Jeff B!)
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
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Thank you!  Did anyone see that mattress commercial

on the Super Bowl a few years ago?  A guy was having

a romantic dinner with his girlfriend on a cliff overlooking

the sea. And when the camera pans out the third person

at the table is Cornelius.  You don't imagine that guy was

dreaming about a Ménage à trois with him.  Or do you?

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/26/2009 3:08:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

When you have a crush on somebody that doesn't mean that it's rutting season.  

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I prefer to think everyone Un-Naturally

racist.  I think people are Raceless.

Until a view is thrust on them by events.

And I think that That IS the point of POTA>

 

 

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just like everyone is naturally racist.

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Got a call from a Ms. Glasner from the Motion Picture & Television Fund. She says she looks at the Roddy McDowall Rose Garden everyday at work and it is "beautiful and growing strong"..."alive and doing well" . It is part of the residential area which is "still a very viable program" and it is expanding and admitting more residents....So the garden will not be affected by the closing of the medical facility. She didn't mention the statue but I'm sure it will remain in place.

I totally agree. One of the foremost points of POTA.

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>
> I prefer to think everyone Un-Naturally
> racist. I think people are Raceless.
> Until a view is thrust on them by events.
> And I think that That IS the point of POTA>
>
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Well, at least now we know why the Mego Zira was so bad.

The guy at the toy store couldn't keep the Addars in stock.

So the R & D guy used a Cornelius head for the mock up.

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/2009 11:40:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

This is interesting!

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> http://www.megomuseum.com/pota/pzira.html"

That's awesome! Thanks for posting it.

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We may be thinking of 2 different things but my recollection is it was a dig.

I seem to recall the comment along the lines: “This would sort out the real fans – as if a find like this could have remained unfound for so long.”

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found this snapshot of my gorilla bronze mask and pull over gloves!!!!2008 Wayne s --- On Tue, 27/1/09, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote: From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] POTA TV Show 'Bible' To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 9:26 PM I don't remember that being said at all.   Neil   -----Original Message----- From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:20 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] POTA TV Show 'Bible' We may be thinking of 2 different things but my recollection is it was a dig. I seem to recall the comment along the lines: "This would sort out the real fans – as if a find like this could have remained unfound for so long." .

Neil:

Go to the scripts section on Hunter's site and scroll down to the TV
scripts. The first script listed (episode 0) is the first part of the
bible. Mark provided me scans of these pages, which I cleaned up the
same way I cleaned up the scripts. I believe the only pages missing
from this is the list of proposed episodes.

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> A couple of years ago, on his TV show site Mark Hadleyburg had a
copy of
> the 'TV Show Bible'. He has since revamped his site
> (http://www.escapefromtomorrow.com/) and It looks like the 'Bible'
is no
> longer on it, at least as far as I can see after searching for it.
>
> I was wondering if anyone saved a copy of it from back when it was on
> the site and if so could you send me a copy as there are a few
things I
> really need to check out?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
>

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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA TV Show 'Bible'

Neil:

Go to the scripts section on Hunter's site and scroll down to the TV
scripts. The first script listed (episode 0) is the first part of the
bible. Mark provided me scans of these pages, which I cleaned up the
same way I cleaned up the scripts. I believe the only pages missing
from this is the list of proposed episodes.

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Hi All

New article here:

http://chud.com/articles/articles/17231/1/SCOTT-FRANK-TELLS-CHUD-
quotI039M-NOT-REMAKING-CONQUEST-OF-THE-PLANET-OF-THE-
APESquot/Page1.htmlbr>
SCOTT FRANK TELLS CHUD "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF
THE APES!"

By Devin Faraci Published 12/1/2008 News

For the last month I've been on the heels of a story that has excited
me: Fox has been developing a new Planet of the Apes film, a prequel.
There were a lot of rumors. We heard from sources close to Fox that
the film (which we were told was called Planet of the Apes: Genesis
or Genesis: Apes) was a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes.
It would tell the story of Caesar, the chimpanzee who led the apes in
rebellion, conquering humanity and creating a planet where apes ruled
and humans served.

As we learned this weekend, things have changed in the previous
months. Fox is still excited about this property, and now they've put
the film into the hands of writer/director Scott Frank. The film is
now called Caesar. But what about the rest of the info? Was any of it
true? If so, does it still apply now that Frank is on the project? I
went to the source and this morning spoke to Scott Frank himself.

Caesar is not a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. This is
a fact that Frank can't stress to you enough - his film will not
feature talking monkeys, and it will not end with chimpanzees running
wild in the streets, taking over the world. But it isn't entirely
divorced from the world of Planet of the Apes, either. In fact, Frank
sees his movie as the opening chapter in a saga that could span the
thousand years between today and a world where apes rule.

What's most exciting about Caesar is that Frank is committed to
telling a hard science fiction story. The science that creates a
hyper-intelligent chimpanzee is based on current real world research -
this film would just take that science one step further. He's also
committed to telling a story based on character, not antic ape
action. His plan for Caesar is one where you come to really feel for
this ape, even as the final act sees him taking actions that may be
hard for us to agree with.

But getting Caesar to be a real character on the page is just one of
the challenges still facing Frank. He is right now just in the
beginning phases of rewriting the script, and even if he is able to
nail the story, he still has to figure out if he can bring Caesar to
life on screen. Since he doesn't want to have people running around
in monkey suits, Frank is doing lots of research into the state of
effects today - can he create a photoreal chimpanzee (one who is
facially modified by the genetic engineering that grants him his
intelligence) who will be the main character for this film? Can he
create a character who is completely expressive through his face,
eyes, and gestures (including sign language) without speaking a word
of dialogue?

Fox seems convinced Frank can make it work. Caesar excites the
writer/director because it's something so outside of his wheelhouse*,
but he's adamant that he wants to get it right, and he says that the
studio feels the same way. This is a film that needs to be grounded
in character and science, and then made to feel real. While we didn't
get into details, what Frank told me made Caesar sound like it would
also continue the Apes tradition of tackling social issues, something
sorely lacking in Tim Burton's stillborn re-imagining.

Frank was audibly excited about the movie as he told me about it, but
he was also very cautious to say that he wouldn't know if the film
would be going ahead until at least February. It does sound like Fox
is eager to get this franchise restarted, so I hope that Frank feels
comfortable with his script and the FX, since I'd rather see a guy
who can write (and direct, judging by the criminally underseen The
Lookout) on this film than a guy whose commercial background
convinces the suits he can shoot action that will look cool in a
trailer.

As a lifelong fan of the Apes series, Frank's take on this material
has me excited in a way that I wouldn't have thought possible. The
great thing about each of the original Apes sequels is that they did
something new and unexpected, and there are many elements in Frank's
concept that fit right in that tradition. His story is one that will
work as a standalone thriller, as a science fiction thinker and as
the beginning of a larger, grander saga.

Hopefully Caesar will continue moving forward. If it does, expect us
to be at the forefront of its evolution, bringing you all the latest
news.

* Although it's worth noting that Frank has been involved in
thoughtful scifi before, namely Minority Report.

I'm going to start a few different threads here. This is a VERY
important article if you ask me.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> New article here:
>
> http://chud.com/articles/articles/17231/1/SCOTT-FRANK-TELLS-CHUD-
> quotI039M-NOT-REMAKING-CONQUEST-OF-THE-PLANET-OF-THE-
> APESquot/Page1.htmlbr> >
> SCOTT FRANK TELLS CHUD "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF
> THE APES!"

This is critical to me.

All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and I
am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really want
another REMAKE?!?!?!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...>
wrote:

>
> Hi All
>
> New article here:
>
> http://chud.com/articles/articles/17231/1/SCOTT-FRANK-TELLS-CHUD-
> quotI039M-NOT-REMAKING-CONQUEST-OF-THE-PLANET-OF-THE-
> APESquot/Page1.htmlbr> >
> SCOTT FRANK TELLS CHUD "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF
> THE APES!"
>
> By Devin Faraci Published 12/1/2008 News
>
> For the last month I've been on the heels of a story that has

excited

> me: Fox has been developing a new Planet of the Apes film, a

prequel.

> There were a lot of rumors. We heard from sources close to Fox that
> the film (which we were told was called Planet of the Apes: Genesis
> or Genesis: Apes) was a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the

Apes.

> It would tell the story of Caesar, the chimpanzee who led the apes

in

> rebellion, conquering humanity and creating a planet where apes

ruled

> and humans served.
>
> As we learned this weekend, things have changed in the previous
> months. Fox is still excited about this property, and now they've

put

> the film into the hands of writer/director Scott Frank. The film is
> now called Caesar. But what about the rest of the info? Was any of

it

> true? If so, does it still apply now that Frank is on the project?

I

> went to the source and this morning spoke to Scott Frank himself.
>
> Caesar is not a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. This

is

> a fact that Frank can't stress to you enough

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 a photoreal chimpanzee (one who is facially modified by the genetic engineering that grants him his intelligence) who will be the main character for this film

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Again - THANKS GOD! How do others feel about this?

I can tell you now, it reminds me of the BACK STORY Neil and I have
mapped for BEGINS which shows how Kronos came to be.

Similarly, it IS very much a part of POTA. However it's different
because KRONOS is naked and walks on all 4s. He does speak, however
he wouldn't need to!

What's happening here is not JUST a PREquel - it's an EMBRYO!

And that's GREAT! It's INTELLIGENT! Apes don't develop
overnight...it sets up the following years.

How do other feel?

Michael


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...>
wrote:

>
> Hi All
>
> New article here:
>
> http://chud.com/articles/articles/17231/1/SCOTT-FRANK-TELLS-CHUD-
> quotI039M-NOT-REMAKING-CONQUEST-OF-THE-PLANET-OF-THE-
> APESquot/Page1.htmlbr> >
> SCOTT FRANK TELLS CHUD "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF
> THE APES!"
>
> By Devin Faraci Published 12/1/2008 News
>
> For the last month I've been on the heels of a story that has

excited

> me: Fox has been developing a new Planet of the Apes film, a

prequel.

> There were a lot of rumors. We heard from sources close to Fox that
> the film (which we were told was called Planet of the Apes: Genesis
> or Genesis: Apes) was a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the

Apes.

> It would tell the story of Caesar, the chimpanzee who led the apes

in

> rebellion, conquering humanity and creating a planet where apes

ruled

> and humans served.
>
> As we learned this weekend, things have changed in the previous
> months. Fox is still excited about this property, and now they've

put

> the film into the hands of writer/director Scott Frank. The film is
> now called Caesar. But what about the rest of the info? Was any of

it

> true? If so, does it still apply now that Frank is on the project?

I

> went to the source and this morning spoke to Scott Frank himself.
>
> Caesar is not a remake of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. This

is

> a fact that Frank can't stress to you enough - his film will not
> feature talking monkeys, and it will not end with chimpanzees

running

> wild in the streets, taking over the world. But it isn't entirely
> divorced from the world of Planet of the Apes, either. In fact,

Frank

> sees his movie as the opening chapter in a saga that could span the
> thousand years between today and a world where apes rule.
>
> What's most exciting about Caesar is that Frank is committed to
> telling a hard science fiction story. The science that creates a
> hyper-intelligent chimpanzee is based on current real world

research -

> this film would just take that science one step further.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:03 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

This is critical to me.

All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and I
am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really want
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Precisely Neil.

From what I understand Mr Frank has a few limitations from FOX. One
of these is that the movie is set in the PRESENT. To make this work
without magical talking monkeys (and to have a more intelligent,
realistic approach that being COMMUNICATING APES!) is not going to be
so bad - POTA DOES NOT NEED TALKING MONKEYS!!!!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Definitely not for me. I want something new (and good!) which
> compliments what we already have. I think going back and trying to
> recreate what has already been done and add to it would be the
wrong way
> to go.
>
> Also just goes to show you can't believe all you read about this
project
> !
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:03 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
> This is critical to me.
>
> All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and I
> am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really want
> another REMAKE?!?!?!
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50855/stime=1233108168/nc1=3858794/nc2=3848614/nc3=5170419>
>

It sets it up nicely for sequels that use the Chamberesque make-ups!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds interesting, maybe they are planning to make him look like the
> Classic POTA Apes?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:57 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] New Article on the New Movie
>
>
>
> a photoreal chimpanzee (one who is facially modified by the genetic
> engineering that grants him his intelligence) who will be the main
> character for this film
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50853/stime=1233107821/nc1=3848627/nc2=3858795/nc3=5579905>
>

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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:07 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "...his film will not feature talking monkeys"

  because KRONOS is naked and walks on all 4s.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:24 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

without magical talking monkeys (and to have a more intelligent,
realistic approach that being COMMUNICATING APES!) is not going to be
so bad - POTA DOES NOT NEED TALKING MONKEYS!!!!

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No - it actually hints that it's setting up talking for a later
date "in 1,000 years or so" and this is INTELLIGENT!

It also gives the apes 1,000 years (which they would need!) to get
organazized!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> But it only hints that there won't be talking monkeys in this film,
it
> doesn't rule out the apes gradually learning speech in the future
does
> it?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:24 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
> without magical talking monkeys (and to have a more intelligent,
> realistic approach that being COMMUNICATING APES!) is not going to
be
> so bad - POTA DOES NOT NEED TALKING MONKEYS!!!!
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50859/stime=1233109426/nc1=3858794/nc2=3848627/nc3=5202317>
>

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*** All I can say is that this article says what I had been saying and will continue to say: This has no connection to APES at all, other than it will having apes in it. It's an entity onto itself. ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/09 8:02:53 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and I
am pleased.  How do others feel about this?  Would we really want
another REMAKE?!?!?!

 

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*** The way I read it is that by the time of this movie being done, "Caesar" and the rest will have had their revolt. They'll still be organizing in the span of 90 minutes. ***

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/09 8:41:24 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

It also gives the apes 1,000 years (which they would need!) to get organized!

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

*** All I can say is that this article says what I had been saying and will continue to say: This has no connection to APES at all, other than it will having apes in it. It's an entity onto itself. ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/09 8:02:53 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and I
am pleased.  How do others feel about this?  Would we really want
another REMAKE?!?!?!

 

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Can you please point out where it says that?

I totally disagree with you.

It's not "same old" POTA but it's a POTA back story - or GENESIS.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** All I can say is that this article says what I had been saying
and will
> continue to say: This has no connection to APES at all, other than
it will
> having apes in it. It's an entity onto itself. ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 8:02:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and
I
> am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really want
> another REMAKE?!?!?!
>
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No way!

He says clearly there's no ape revolution...no monkeys running down
main street with guns.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** The way I read it is that by the time of this movie being
done, "Caesar"
> and the rest will have had their revolt. They'll still be
organizing in the
> span of 90 minutes. ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 8:41:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> It also gives the apes 1,000 years (which they would need!) to
get
> organized!
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It's not a continuation, it's a prequel.

And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape revolution
prior to Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself
continuable?

Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we can have a new
better POTA where anything is possible.

It's still POTA.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This article is old news. The plus is that he's a solid writer
with a good resume. The minus is whether people will accept it, which
depends on the FX, which are unknown. If the first one isn't a hit
there won't be another one 1,000 years later. But I like the basic
concept, showing the apes from the beginning. But everyone can rule
out a continuation of the originals. That's not how it's done.
Everything is reinvented. Unless you get a guy like Bryan Singer
on "Superman", bringing in Brando, etc. But anyone who wants this to
be a continuation will be disappointed.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mlccougar@...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
> *** All I can say is that this article says what I had been
saying and will continue to say: This has no connection to APES at
all, other than it will having apes in it. It's an entity onto
itself. ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 8:02:53 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
> All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be
and I
> am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really
want
> another REMAKE?!?!?!
>
>
>
>
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*** Yeah, but he also says that Caesar is going to be doing things (presumably to humanity) that we may not neccessarily agree with, but having seen what he went thru, we'll understand his acts. His acts aren't going to be walking up and giving the "masters" a kiss! Sure he may not be recreating the revolt from CONQUEST, but maybe he'll be copying Georges from MONKEY PLANET and injecting humans with cancer.***

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/09 10:12:43 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

He says clearly there's no ape revolution...no monkeys running down
main street with guns.

 

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*** Okay, it does not say it in the literal sense, but it's there if nowhere but between the lines...

 

You're welcome to disagree, but there's no way it's going to be an APES story. It will be it's own thing: a "reimagined" take on the APES theme(s). It will not be a genesis or backstory to anything having to do with the original APES films. I can't even see calling it a backstory to anything, being that it's the first film of a new franchise, it's the starting point, or as you also said "genesis".***

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/09 10:11:45 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Can you please point out where it says that?

I totally disagree with you.

It's not "same old" POTA but it's a POTA back story - or GENESIS.

 

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In a message dated 1/27/09 10:15:48 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape revolution prior to Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself continuable?

*** I know I believe there was an original revolution that led up to PLANET, but the Caesar film will not be that. Tying the proposed new film to PLANET makes about as much sense as tying the "Batman and Robin" film to the old Batman TV series. ***

Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we can have a new better POTA where anything is possible.

*** I agree and that's why I keep saying that it's going to be it's own entity. I am not even a fan of anyone trying to revamp the APES franchise at this point, but if they're going to go ahead and make a film they'll be touting as a "reimagined" take on the APES name, I would much rather see it be something all it's own. ***

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That's what I think - he'll subtly set up the demise of
humanity....and the rise of apes......

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** Yeah, but he also says that Caesar is going to be doing things
> (presumably to humanity) that we may not neccessarily agree with,
but having seen what
> he went thru, we'll understand his acts. His acts aren't going to
be walking
> up and giving the "masters" a kiss! Sure he may not be recreating
the revolt
> from CONQUEST, but maybe he'll be copying Georges from MONKEY
PLANET and
> injecting humans with cancer.***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 10:12:43 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> He says clearly there's no ape revolution...no monkeys running
down
> main street with guns.
>
>
>
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....or Planet to Beneath.... ! :)

Mike - if it reads the way I see it there's no need to TIE
anything...but nor do I see why you try to UNTIE it.

Let's see!

Sounds good to me all the way so far.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 10:15:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape revolution
prior to
> Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself continuable?
> *** I know I believe there was an original revolution that led up
to PLANET,
> but the Caesar film will not be that. Tying the proposed new film
to PLANET
> makes about as much sense as tying the "Batman and Robin" film to
the old
> Batman TV series. ***
>
>
>
> Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we can have a new
better POTA
> where anything is possible.
>
> *** I agree and that's why I keep saying that it's going to be
it's own
> entity. I am not even a fan of anyone trying to revamp the APES
franchise at this
> point, but if they're going to go ahead and make a film they'll be
touting
> as a "reimagined" take on the APES name, I would much rather see it
be
> something all it's own. ***
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Yeah but it will have the name....

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 10:15:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape revolution
prior to
> Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself continuable?
> *** I know I believe there was an original revolution that led up
to PLANET,
> but the Caesar film will not be that. Tying the proposed new film
to PLANET
> makes about as much sense as tying the "Batman and Robin" film to
the old
> Batman TV series. ***
>
>
>
> Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we can have a new
better POTA
> where anything is possible.
>
> *** I agree and that's why I keep saying that it's going to be
it's own
> entity. I am not even a fan of anyone trying to revamp the APES
franchise at this
> point, but if they're going to go ahead and make a film they'll be
touting
> as a "reimagined" take on the APES name, I would much rather see it
be
> something all it's own. ***
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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:15 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

It's not a continuation, it's a prequel.

And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape revolution
prior to Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself
continuable?

Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we can have a new
better POTA where anything is possible.

It's still POTA.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This article is old news. The plus is that he's a solid writer
with a good resume. The minus is whether people will accept it, which
depends on the FX, which are unknown. If the first one isn't a hit
there won't be another one 1,000 years later. But I like the basic
concept, showing the apes from the beginning. But everyone can rule
out a continuation of the originals. That's not how it's done.
Everything is reinvented. Unless you get a guy like Bryan Singer
on "Superman", bringing in Brando, etc. But anyone who wants this to
be a continuation will be disappointed.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mlccougar@.. .
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
> *** All I can say is that this article says what I had been
saying and will continue to say: This has no connection to APES at
all, other than it will having apes in it. It's an entity onto
itself. ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 8:02:53 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@ ... writes:
> All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be
and I
> am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really
want
> another REMAKE?!?!?!
>
>
>
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*** I know what you're getting at with that but you have to admit that BENEATH was purposely made as a sequel to PLANET. It is meant to be seen as a continuation of the PLANET story, whereas this Caesar film is an entirely new storyline. ***

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/09 10:36:32 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

....or Planet to Beneath.... !  :)

 

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Yeah I agree with all your points Jeff.

But really all you can ask is that FOX tries to learn from last time
and really - this is meking it seem like they will. They have not
got an action film writer but instead someone wanting to give APES an
intelligent feel.

This indicates they did learn something.

However, Mr Scott may deliver a wonderful script, and that in turn
may be reduced to an action movie!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> No, I mean like a continuation with Chambers makeup and something
that would fit within the original 5. It's going to be starting from
scratch again, like POTA2001 was. Which is fine with me. This guy is
doing his homework and it sounds like he wants to be "realistic".
> My only concern is whether Fox still believes in it as a top
franchise or if they're going "Alien vs. Predator" level. Whatever
success POTA2001 had is because of the name recognition and I think a
POTA could be as popular as "Batman" or "Spiderman" in the right
hands. But Fox has a rep for screwing things up.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Whitty
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:15 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
> It's not a continuation, it's a prequel.
>
> And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape revolution
> prior to Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself
> continuable?
>
> Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we can have a new
> better POTA where anything is possible.
>
> It's still POTA.
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > This article is old news. The plus is that he's a solid writer
> with a good resume. The minus is whether people will accept it,
which
> depends on the FX, which are unknown. If the first one isn't a
hit
> there won't be another one 1,000 years later. But I like the
basic
> concept, showing the apes from the beginning. But everyone can
rule
> out a continuation of the originals. That's not how it's done.
> Everything is reinvented. Unless you get a guy like Bryan Singer
> on "Superman", bringing in Brando, etc. But anyone who wants this
to
> be a continuation will be disappointed.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mlccougar@
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> >
> >
> >
> > *** All I can say is that this article says what I had been
> saying and will continue to say: This has no connection to APES
at
> all, other than it will having apes in it. It's an entity onto
> itself. ***
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/27/09 8:02:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@ writes:
> > All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be
> and I
> > am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really
> want
> > another REMAKE?!?!?!
> >
> >
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I know what you mean too Mike BUT...I disagree. I think he's making
it so it CAN be fitted into PLANET....but if he doesn't mention
Taylor's ship having been launched then possibly not.....

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** I know what you're getting at with that but you have to admit
that
> BENEATH was purposely made as a sequel to PLANET. It is meant to be
seen as a
> continuation of the PLANET story, whereas this Caesar film is an
entirely new
> storyline. ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 10:36:32 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> ....or Planet to Beneath.... ! :)
>
>
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Not a crap one (read Journey to the Center of the Earth, The Day The Earth Stood Still, War of the Worlds, etc . . .) But I look at it this way -- it took them 3 tries to get the Classic Maltese Falcon.  That's what I'm hoping for. 

 

In a message dated 1/27/2009 8:03:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

This is critical to me.

All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and I
am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really want
another REMAKE?!?!?!

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True about MF - not many people realise there were predecessors.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Not a crap one (read Journey to the Center of the Earth, The Day The
Earth
> Stood Still, War of the Worlds, etc . . .) But I look at it this way -
- it
> took them 3 tries to get the Classic Maltese Falcon. That's what
I'm hoping
> for.
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/2009 8:03:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> This is critical to me.
>
> All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be and I
> am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really want
> another REMAKE?!?!?!
>
> Michael
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I would rather it be on it's own as well....I don't want a new POTA or even a new take on the old POTA....this movie so far to me will be something I will probably go see but it will be in the same vein as "Mighty Joe Young" or "COngo"....ape related but not POTA.....

I could be proven wrong and that's fine...I'll wait and see the finished product...

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@... > wrote:

> From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 11:31 PM
> In a message dated 1/27/09 10:15:48 PM Central Standard
> Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape
> revolution prior to
> Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself
> continuable?
> *** I know I believe there was an original revolution that
> led up to PLANET,
> but the Caesar film will not be that. Tying the proposed
> new film to PLANET
> makes about as much sense as tying the "Batman and
> Robin" film to the old
> Batman TV series. ***
>
>
>
> Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we
> can have a new better POTA
> where anything is possible.
>
> *** I agree and that's why I keep saying that it's
> going to be it's own
> entity. I am not even a fan of anyone trying to revamp the
> APES franchise at this
> point, but if they're going to go ahead and make a film
> they'll be touting
> as a "reimagined" take on the APES name, I would
> much rather see it be
> something all it's own. ***
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I still haven't seen the remade Mighty Joe Young... Is it much different than the original?

 

 

In a message dated 1/27/09 11:54:13 PM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

this movie so far to me will be something I will probably go see but it will be in the same vein as "Mighty Joe Young" or "COngo"....ape related but not POTA.....

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:06 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

Yeah I agree with all your points Jeff.

But really all you can ask is that FOX tries to learn from last time
and really - this is meking it seem like they will. They have not
got an action film writer but instead someone wanting to give APES an
intelligent feel.

This indicates they did learn something.

However, Mr Scott may deliver a wonderful script, and that in turn
may be reduced to an action movie!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> No, I mean like a continuation with Chambers makeup and something
that would fit within the original 5. It's going to be starting from
scratch again, like POTA2001 was. Which is fine with me. This guy is
doing his homework and it sounds like he wants to be "realistic".
> My only concern is whether Fox still believes in it as a top
franchise or if they're going "Alien vs. Predator" level. Whatever
success POTA2001 had is because of the name recognition and I think a
POTA could be as popular as "Batman" or "Spiderman" in the right
hands. But Fox has a rep for screwing things up.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Whitty
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:15 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
> It's not a continuation, it's a prequel.
>
> And why, if you believe that there was a DIFFERENT ape revolution
> prior to Planet that is not CONQUEST, can it not leave itself
> continuable?
>
> Frankly I think it's better if it doesn't and we can have a new
> better POTA where anything is possible.
>
> It's still POTA.
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > This article is old news. The plus is that he's a solid writer
> with a good resume. The minus is whether people will accept it,
which
> depends on the FX, which are unknown. If the first one isn't a
hit
> there won't be another one 1,000 years later. But I like the
basic
> concept, showing the apes from the beginning. But everyone can
rule
> out a continuation of the originals. That's not how it's done.
> Everything is reinvented. Unless you get a guy like Bryan Singer
> on "Superman", bringing in Brando, etc. But anyone who wants this
to
> be a continuation will be disappointed.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mlccougar@
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> >
> >
> >
> > *** All I can say is that this article says what I had been
> saying and will continue to say: This has no connection to APES
at
> all, other than it will having apes in it. It's an entity onto
> itself. ***
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/27/09 8:02:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@ writes:
> > All the media has hailed it will be a REMAKE. But it won't be
> and I
> > am pleased. How do others feel about this? Would we really
> want
> > another REMAKE?!?!?!
> >
> >
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I've given it the benefit of the doubt so far, so this seems like a
reliable source...Two things jumped out at me - first the line "it
isn't entirely divorced from the world of Planet of the Apes,
either", which to me reads like 'it's almost entirely divorced from
the world of Planet of the Apes'. I'm a bit disappointed that it
probably won't coordinate with the existing POTA universe. It might
not contradict it of course (if it's the 'original' ape revoultion,
for example), and I guess they could never really just tack on a
story to the end of 'Battle'. I think one of the fundamental problems
with Burton's movie was that they simply called it 'POTA' - a movie
based on POTA but standing on it's own feet would have had a lot more
integrity and could sink or swim on it's own merits ('I Am Legend'
rather than 'Omega Man 2007').
The other thing was the use of effects rather than actors, I'm not a
huge fan of CGI, as it tends to be over-used at the expense of story
and acting (any series finale of Doctor Who springs to mind).
But I think this sounds like it's going to be a new franchise on it's
own - maybe a re-imagining of POTA, but with a lot more thought put
into it, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with,
genuinely.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** Okay, it does not say it in the literal sense, but it's there
if nowhere
> but between the lines...
>
> You're welcome to disagree, but there's no way it's going to be an
APES
> story. It will be it's own thing: a "reimagined" take on the APES
theme(s). It
> will not be a genesis or backstory to anything having to do with
the original
> APES films. I can't even see calling it a backstory to anything,
being that
> it's the first film of a new franchise, it's the starting point, or
as you also
> said "genesis".***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/09 10:11:45 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Can you please point out where it says that?
>
> I totally disagree with you.
>
> It's not "same old" POTA but it's a POTA back story - or GENESIS.
>
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And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old fashioned and
treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations. As far as I can
tell there's too many 'old fans' not prepared to move on or even try
something a bit different.

Frankly as far as I'm concerned we deserve what little (we think) we
get (even though we get plenty for a dead old franchise.) Almost
anything new or slightly daring or different usually gets met with way
too much negativity.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I would rather it be on it's own as well....I don't want a new POTA
or even a new take on the old POTA

> I still haven't seen the remade Mighty Joe Young... Is it much different
> than the original?

It tells the same basic story, but is quite a bit different from the
original. I enjoy watching it every now and then. It's not a great
movie, but it is, IMO, one of Hollywood's better remakes. And Rick
Baker's gorillas are incredible, as always.

Hunter

I must agree that to much negative talk does little in the progression
of any type of film, where would Dr Who be if that didn't advance, Star
Trek , Star Wars , Batman, Superman but thats just a few.
Nothing lasts for ever unless it gets a new lease of life.
Our own P.O.T.A's franchise is case in question,with new items for sale
and the diamand collection of mego and the newest hot toys .
It shows that with new films even the original can get a overall,
giving us fanatical fans of the original much more options.
It hurts to say even the Burton ( Classic ??????) has done something
towards this end.
So bring it on Genisis / Ceasar / Conquest of planet of the apes,.
I just hope it does itself justice and has something to do with planet
of the apes other than that i leave it in the capable hands of those
that know better at fox.
Mark

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old fashioned and
> treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations. As far as I can
> tell there's too many 'old fans' not prepared to move on or even try
> something a bit different.
>
> Frankly as far as I'm concerned we deserve what little (we think) we
> get (even though we get plenty for a dead old franchise.) Almost
> anything new or slightly daring or different usually gets met with way
> too much negativity.
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > I would rather it be on it's own as well....I don't want a new POTA
> or even a new take on the old POTA
>

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I don't know where in the world are you, dont forget some films get re
packaged and name changes can also happen i.e Howard the Duck.
Who was in it and brief explanation of storyline would help.
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> So am I the only person on the group who has seen this movie?
>
>
>
> Michael
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Because it wasn't updated. It's a victim of it's time.  At

the time it was as cutting edge a movie as you could get.

And still keep a G rating that is.  That's it's blessing and

it's curse.  And that's what POTA2K1 tried to be, and failed.

 

 

In a message dated 1/28/2009 3:02:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old fashioned and
treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations.

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A POTA Festival is what the Techno Wonks in Big Bang Theory go to see.

 

 

In a message dated 1/28/2009 3:02:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old fashioned and
treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations. As far as I can
tell there's too many 'old fans' not prepared to move on or even try
something a bit different.

Frankly as far as I'm concerned we deserve what little (we think) we
get (even though we get plenty for a dead old franchise.) Almost
anything new or slightly daring or different usually gets met with way
too much negativity.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
>
> I would rather it be on it's own as well....I don't want a new POTA
or even a new take on the old POTA

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In a message dated 1/28/2009 6:47:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

So am I the only person on the group who has seen this movie?

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Neil...come on.....you know I enjoy and appreciate and welcome new things...I dig (and buy) all the new toys and comics....and I was absolutly welcoming to POTA 2001 .....until it got made!

ANY new story with Zira, Cornelius and Zaius would just muck it up...not to mention the difficulty Rich would have trying to fit any new story lines in to the timeline!

POTA is NOT dead ..look at all the new merchandise.....and I've heard of young people ...many who have found these groups...that are into the originals ...
Films do not have to constantly be remade for fans to find and appreciate them....

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Neil <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> From: Neil <ntfoster@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:01 AM
> And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old fashioned
> and
> treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations. As
> far as I can
> tell there's too many 'old fans' not prepared
> to move on or even try
> something a bit different.
>
> Frankly as far as I'm concerned we deserve what little
> (we think) we
> get (even though we get plenty for a dead old franchise.)
> Almost
> anything new or slightly daring or different usually gets
> met with way
> too much negativity.
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would rather it be on it's own as well....I
> don't want a new POTA
> or even a new take on the old POTA

Besides Batman films.... any new Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones or Superman films have made me say...."just give it a rest...stop stop!!

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...> wrote:

> From: haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 5:38 AM
> I must agree that to much negative talk does little in the
> progression
> of any type of film, where would Dr Who be if that
> didn't advance, Star
> Trek , Star Wars , Batman, Superman but thats just a few.
> Nothing lasts for ever unless it gets a new lease of life.
> Our own P.O.T.A's franchise is case in question,with
> new items for sale
> and the diamand collection of mego and the newest hot toys
> .
> It shows that with new films even the original can get a
> overall,
> giving us fanatical fans of the original much more options.
> It hurts to say even the Burton ( Classic ??????) has done
> something
> towards this end.
> So bring it on Genisis / Ceasar / Conquest of planet of the
> apes,.
> I just hope it does itself justice and has something to do
> with planet
> of the apes other than that i leave it in the capable hands
> of those
> that know better at fox.
> Mark
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil"
> <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old
> fashioned and
> > treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations.
> As far as I can
> > tell there's too many 'old fans' not
> prepared to move on or even try
> > something a bit different.
> >
> > Frankly as far as I'm concerned we deserve what
> little (we think) we
> > get (even though we get plenty for a dead old
> franchise.) Almost
> > anything new or slightly daring or different usually
> gets met with way
> > too much negativity.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would rather it be on it's own as well....I
> don't want a new POTA
> > or even a new take on the old POTA
> >

I don't see the original POTA as dated or a victim of it';s time....

to me it is timeless and still holds up over any of these SFX laden video games they call SciFi now....

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, TZer0@... <TZer0@...> wrote:

> From: TZer0@... <TZer0@...>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 12:18 PM
> Because it wasn't updated. It's a victim of it's
> time. At
> the time it was as cutting edge a movie as you could get.
> And still keep a G rating that is. That's it's
> blessing and
> it's curse. And that's what POTA2K1 tried to be,
> and failed.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/28/2009 3:02:41 A.M. Central Standard
> Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old
> fashioned and
> treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations.
>
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*** I agree 100%, I'm tired of the old "I want Zira and Cornelius" (i.e., "I only want a character I've heard of")mentality. Some people sit there and denounce any new characters that might come along and then they never have an answer when asked "Well, how do you feel about Ursus, he was new at one time? So was Galen in the TV series, etc." ***

 

 

In a message dated 1/28/09 11:59:33 AM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

ANY new story with Zira, Cornelius and Zaius would just muck it up...not to mention the difficulty Rich would have trying to fit any new story lines in to the timeline!

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

Some people sit there and denounce any new characters that might come along and then they never have an answer when asked "Well, how do you feel about Ursus, he was new at one time? So was Galen in the TV series, etc." ***

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

Neil...come on.....you know I enjoy and appreciate and welcome new things...I dig (and buy) all the new toys and comics....and I was absolutly welcoming to POTA 2001 .....until it got made!

ANY new story with Zira, Cornelius and Zaius would just muck it up...not to mention the difficulty Rich would have trying to fit any new story lines in to the timeline!

POTA is NOT dead ..look at all the new merchandise. ....and I've heard of young people ...many who have found these groups...that are into the originals ...
Films do not have to constantly be remade for fans to find and appreciate them....

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Neil <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

> From: Neil <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:01 AM
> And we wonder why POTA is dead and considered old fashioned
> and
> treated as a bit of a joke by the younger generations. As
> far as I can
> tell there's too many 'old fans' not prepared
> to move on or even try
> something a bit different.
>
> Frankly as far as I'm concerned we deserve what little
> (we think) we
> get (even though we get plenty for a dead old franchise.)
> Almost
> anything new or slightly daring or different usually gets
> met with way
> too much negativity.
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would rather it be on it's own as well....I
> don't want a new POTA
> or even a new take on the old POTA

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

and I've heard of young people ...many who have found these groups...that are into the originals ...
Films do not have to constantly be remade for fans to find and appreciate them....

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From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:48 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout

What?  Who? Where?  J

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:42 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout

"The Lookout" is a film written and directed by Scott Frank (a.k.a. "Caesar" writer). :o)

And yes, from Australia to the U.S it's still called "The Lookout." :o)

Thought it was great. Although I know for sure I've said this before.

Remember, Michael. The first thing to go in old age is your memory. ;o)

Al

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From: haydon.mark <markhaydon3@ aol.com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:15:58 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout

I don't know where in the world are you, dont forget some films get re
packaged and name changes can also happen i.e Howard the Duck.
Who was in it and brief explanation of storyline would help.
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
>
> So am I the only person on the group who has seen this movie?
>
>
>
> Michael
>

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OK - so, Jeff....having seen THE LOOKOUT, and (I assume) being aware
of other movies Mr Frank has been involved in, it seems that at least
FOX is "admitting" they need to start with a good script...would you
agree?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "The Lookout" was good. Apparently the script had been around a
while and it never got made so they let Scott Frank direct it
himself. Kind of a quirky little film like Chris Nolan did before the
new "Batman"s and Bryan Singer did before "X-Men". Sometimes it works
out great to go with a storyteller rather than an action guy.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout
>
>
>
> What? Who? Where? J
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout
>
>
>
> "The Lookout" is a film written and directed by Scott Frank
(a.k.a. "Caesar" writer). :o)
>
> And yes, from Australia to the U.S it's still called "The
Lookout." :o)
>
>
>
> Thought it was great. Although I know for sure I've said this
before.
>
> Remember, Michael. The first thing to go in old age is your
memory. ;o)
>
>
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
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>
> From: haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:15:58 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout
>
> I don't know where in the world are you, dont forget some films
get re
> packaged and name changes can also happen i.e Howard the Duck.
> Who was in it and brief explanation of storyline would help.
> Mark
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > So am I the only person on the group who has seen this movie?
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
>

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From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:01 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout

OK - so, Jeff....having seen THE LOOKOUT, and (I assume) being aware
of other movies Mr Frank has been involved in, it seems that at least
FOX is "admitting" they need to start with a good script...would you
agree?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "The Lookout" was good. Apparently the script had been around a
while and it never got made so they let Scott Frank direct it
himself. Kind of a quirky little film like Chris Nolan did before the
new "Batman"s and Bryan Singer did before "X-Men". Sometimes it works
out great to go with a storyteller rather than an action guy.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout
>
>
>
> What? Who? Where? J
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
----------
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout
>
>
>
> "The Lookout" is a film written and directed by Scott Frank
(a.k.a. "Caesar" writer). :o)
>
> And yes, from Australia to the U.S it's still called "The
Lookout." :o)
>
>
>
> Thought it was great. Although I know for sure I've said this
before.
>
> Remember, Michael. The first thing to go in old age is your
memory. ;o)
>
>
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
----------
>
> From: haydon.mark <markhaydon3@ ...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:15:58 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Lookout
>
> I don't know where in the world are you, dont forget some films
get re
> packaged and name changes can also happen i.e Howard the Duck.
> Who was in it and brief explanation of storyline would help.
> Mark
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > So am I the only person on the group who has seen this movie?
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
>

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From: Neil Foster

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:59 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

Well I've heard teenagers laugh at the makeups (even when watching Planet) and go on about how old fashioned Planet of the Apes stuff is. My own kids have watched most of the Apes stuff and while they like the films and TV show etc. they don't think any of them are anything special.

 

Neil

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

and I've heard of young people ...many who have found these groups...that are into the originals ...
Films do not have to constantly be remade for fans to find and appreciate them....

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*** Yes, more or less ;)

 

Actually, my problem is the sake of using apes in a film just for the sake of using apes and then attaching the POTA title on it... They're not film related, but a LOT of the 70s comics fall in that catagory, as well as the bulk of the 90s stuff... I fear that on film! ***

 

 

In a message dated 1/28/09 4:10:33 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

So you can accept a new character as long as everything else, the costumes, the makeup, the sets etc. are all the same as the classic stuff but you aren't prepared to let a new spin on the concept use the name Planet of the Apes?

 

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Maybe in the USA but you'd be hard pressed to say that about most
other countries I'd think.
It's definitely dead and forgotten in Australia, not sure about
Britain, some of our UK members could probably let us know but I'd
guess it would be much the same?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
> Original POTA is still alive out there,and far from forgotten.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

I don't see the original POTA as dated or a victim of it';s time....

to me it is timeless and still holds up over any of these SFX laden video games they call SciFi now....

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It's not dead in the U.K but i would say its on a slow pace.
The problem is the programs don't get aired very often (hardly at
all!!!)we have sci fi channel and a couple of channels that show older
programs , but they havn't that i'm aware of shown the series or films.

In the states they also have Fox channel , and they have conventions
on a regular basis.
Movie memrobelia is also more easier obtainable over there also,
Burton's miss mass did rekindal some interest but not much.
Even the new diamond mego costs twice the normal amount in the U.K
because the postage is the same as the item???
This doesn't however stop us P.O.T.A fans who have been here since the
early seventy's if not earlier for some.
Mark

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe in the USA but you'd be hard pressed to say that about most
> other countries I'd think.
> It's definitely dead and forgotten in Australia, not sure about
> Britain, some of our UK members could probably let us know but I'd
> guess it would be much the same?
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@> wrote:
> > Original POTA is still alive out there,and far from forgotten.
>

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Hey, the new* UK mag-SCI-FI NOW is packed with APESSSSSS!!!! see pics attached Wayne S;1/29/09 --- On Thu, 29/1/09, haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...> wrote: From: haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA" To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 1:30 PM It's not dead in the U.K but i would say its on a slow pace. The problem is the programs don't get aired very often (hardly at all!!!)we have sci fi channel and a couple of channels that show older programs , but they havn't that i'm aware of shown the series or films. In the states they also have Fox channel , and they have conventions on a regular basis. Movie memrobelia is also more easier obtainable over there also, Burton's miss mass did rekindal some interest but not much. Even the new diamond mego costs twice the normal amount in the U.K because the postage is the same as the item??? This doesn't however stop us P.O.T.A fans who have been here since the early seventy's if not earlier for some. Mark --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote: > > Maybe in the USA but you'd be hard pressed to say that about most > other countries I'd think. > It's definitely dead and forgotten in Australia, not sure about > Britain, some of our UK members could probably let us know but I'd > guess it would be much the same? > > Neil > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff" <skintricks@ > wrote: > > Original POTA is still alive out there,and far from forgotten. >

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awesome edition in UK this month;PICS attached Wayne --- On Thu, 29/1/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote: From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> Subject: [PotaDG] eBay comics... To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 1:45 PM Has anybody noticed some nice stuff on eBay at the moment?   I'm talking deleted pages and unpublished stories from the Curtis mags here! Michael

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Wayne s --- On Thu, 29/1/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote: From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> Subject: [PotaDG] eBay comics... To: PotaDG@yahoogroups..com Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 1:45 PM Has anybody noticed some nice stuff on eBay at the moment?   I'm talking deleted pages and unpublished stories from the Curtis mags here! Michael

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wayne --- On Thu, 29/1/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote: From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> Subject: [PotaDG] eBay comics... To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 1:45 PM Has anybody noticed some nice stuff on eBay at the moment?   I'm talking deleted pages and unpublished stories from the Curtis mags here! Michael

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