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Group: potadg Message: 50926 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50927 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50928 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50929 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50930 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50931 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50932 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50933 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50934 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: At last! FM #52
Group: potadg Message: 50935 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50936 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50937 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50938 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50939 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50940 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50941 From: nlmoxham Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50942 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50943 From: rassmguy Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50944 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50945 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50946 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50947 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50948 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50949 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50950 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: MEGO Dr. Zaius prototype
Group: potadg Message: 50951 From: rassmguy Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50952 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50953 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: MEGO Dr. Zaius prototype
Group: potadg Message: 50954 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50955 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: MEGO Dr. Zaius prototype
Group: potadg Message: 50956 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50957 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50958 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50959 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50960 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50961 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50962 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 50963 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50964 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: sad passing of ricardo montalban;wayne;uk
Group: potadg Message: 50965 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50966 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50967 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50968 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50969 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50970 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: New on Hunter's site....
Group: potadg Message: 50971 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: New PotaDG member
Group: potadg Message: 50972 From: nlmoxham Date: 1/31/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
Group: potadg Message: 50973 From: Jeff Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: tv series teeth
Group: potadg Message: 50974 From: Jeff Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: tv series again
Group: potadg Message: 50975 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: tv series again
Group: potadg Message: 50976 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: tv series teeth
Group: potadg Message: 50977 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: tv series teeth
Group: potadg Message: 50978 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50979 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50980 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50981 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50982 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50983 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50984 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50985 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 50986 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50987 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50988 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50989 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50990 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50991 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50992 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50993 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50994 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50995 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 50996 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: AN APE WEDDING.
Group: potadg Message: 50997 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: AN APE WEDDING.
Group: potadg Message: 50998 From: haydon.mark Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: AN APE WEDDING.
Group: potadg Message: 50999 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: AN APE WEDDING.
Group: potadg Message: 51000 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: AN APE WEDDING.
Group: potadg Message: 51001 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 51002 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 51003 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: michael, did u like
Group: potadg Message: 51004 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Ape wedding;pic of virdon captured
Group: potadg Message: 51005 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: ambush the gorilla;ape wedding pic
Group: potadg Message: 51006 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
Group: potadg Message: 51007 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 51008 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: michael, did u like
Group: potadg Message: 51009 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original ep]
Group: potadg Message: 51010 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: michael, did u like
Group: potadg Message: 51011 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
Group: potadg Message: 51012 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: AN APE WEDDING.
Group: potadg Message: 51013 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: ambush the gorilla;ape wedding pic
Group: potadg Message: 51014 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
Group: potadg Message: 51015 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 51016 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: Re: ambush the gorilla;ape wedding pic
Group: potadg Message: 51017 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
Subject: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
Group: potadg Message: 51018 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 51019 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
Group: potadg Message: 51020 From: nlmoxham Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 51021 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: Re: designer t-shirts of galen and urko;PIC 1
Group: potadg Message: 51022 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: designer t-shirt;urko 1999;pic 2
Group: potadg Message: 51023 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: display item;designer t-shirt;GALEN;PIC 1;Wayne
Group: potadg Message: 51024 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: hello to all my new ape-chat friends;lPIC attached
Group: potadg Message: 51025 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/2/2009
Subject: Re: designer t-shirt;urko 1999;pic 2



Group: potadg Message: 50926 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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When you say ANYTHING....would you have made love to Estella Warren?

:)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> highly unikely but...umm....hell yes! although I remember when they
were making Burton's my instinct was to do anything I could to be in
it....but I actually decided that I'd rather just watch (not that I
could have marched in there and gotten a part!)....sort of like, not
wanting to go backstage at Cirque du Soleil!!
>
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 6:09 PM
> > If you get a part will you take it? :)
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
> > \"apefan\"" <apefan23@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > probably not....first because it wounds like it really
> > won't have
> > anything to do with it! and because it isn't from THAT
> > world which is
> > what I like about POTA....those characters, those
> > stories....like I
> > said I was more than willing to accept
> > Burton's...especially because
> > of the title but I'm just going to sit back and see
> > about this new
> > one....who knows...if it's a great movie, I'll be
> > all over it!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Neil Foster <ntfoster@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@>
> > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT
> > REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 3:53 PM
> > > > So you will accept this new movie as 'Planet
> > of the
> > > > Apes'?
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of Tim "apefan"
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:59 AM
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT
> > REMAKING
> > > > CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Neil...come on.....you know I enjoy and
> > appreciate and
> > > > welcome new
> > > > things...I dig (and buy) all the new toys and
> > comics....and
> > > > I was
> > > > absolutly welcoming to POTA 2001 .....until it
> > got made!
> > > >
> > > > ANY new story with Zira, Cornelius and Zaius
> > would just
> > > > muck it up...not
> > > > to mention the difficulty Rich would have trying
> > to fit any
> > > > new story
> > > > lines in to the timeline!
> > > >
> > > > POTA is NOT dead ..look at all the new
> > merchandise.....and
> > > > I've heard of
> > > > young people ...many who have found these
> > groups...that are
> > > > into the
> > > > originals ...
> > > > Films do not have to constantly be remade for
> > fans to find
> > > > and
> > > > appreciate them....
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Neil <ntfoster@bigpond.
> > > > <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com> com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Neil <ntfoster@bigpond.
> > > > <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com> com>
> > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT
> > REMAKING
> > > > CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> > > > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:01 AM
> > > > > And we wonder why POTA is dead and
> > considered old
> > > > fashioned
> > > > > and
> > > > > treated as a bit of a joke by the younger
> > generations.
> > > > As
> > > > > far as I can
> > > > > tell there's too many 'old fans'
> > not
> > > > prepared
> > > > > to move on or even try
> > > > > something a bit different.
> > > > >
> > > > > Frankly as far as I'm concerned we
> > deserve what
> > > > little
> > > > > (we think) we
> > > > > get (even though we get plenty for a dead
> > old
> > > > franchise.)
> > > > > Almost
> > > > > anything new or slightly daring or different
> > usually
> > > > gets
> > > > > met with way
> > > > > too much negativity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Neil
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> > > > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> > "Tim
> > > > > \"apefan\""
> > > > <apefan23@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would rather it be on it's own as
> > well....I
> > > > > don't want a new POTA
> > > > > or even a new take on the old POTA
> > >
>
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Group: potadg Message: 50927 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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I agree Neil but I can see why the negativity..."once bitten". Not
everyone is as cheery as you Neil! :)

I think we should all be supporting this movie with positivity and
then we'll go see it and only when wa walk out of the theatre will we
know if it IS Planet of the Apes....

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Well I just can't understand why you and a few others feel like
this.
>
> So what if it doesn't feature any of the classic characters or
clothes
> or looks etc. as far as I'm concerned they can still call it Planet
of
> the Apes or Caesar or whatever they want even if it is going to be a
> revamped version for the modern era. It's just a title after all
and if
> they add the old 'based on the book by Pierre Boulle' they have
every
> right to use the title as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:04 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
> probably not....first because it wounds like it really won't have
> anything to do with it! and because it isn't from THAT world which
is
> what I like about POTA....those characters, those stories....like I
said
> I was more than willing to accept Burton's...especially because of
the
> title but I'm just going to sit back and see about this new
one....who
> knows...if it's a great movie, I'll be all over it!
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond.
> <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com> com> wrote:
>
> > From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. <mailto:ntfoster%
40bigpond.com>
> com>
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 3:53 PM
> > So you will accept this new movie as 'Planet of the
> > Apes'?
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50921/stime=1233270242/nc1=3858795/nc2=3848627/nc3=5579910>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 50928 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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Return is a joke!

Rory


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> So how do people who won't accept a film using a character named
Caesar
> as Planet of the Apes, feel about Return to the Planet of the Apes?
> That used familiar names (obviously for the recognition factor and
to
> cash in on the originals) but the settings, technology and just
about
> everything else was NOT classic POTA.
> Is Return acceptable as 'Planet of the Apes'? Or should it be
renamed
> 'Return To The Planet Where Apes Talk And Rule On A Planet Which
Isn't
> Really THE Planet of the Apes? ;-)
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:04 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
> probably not....first because it wounds like it really won't have
> anything to do with it! and because it isn't from THAT world which
is
> what I like about POTA....those characters, those stories....
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50921/stime=1233270242/nc1=3858795/nc2=3848627/nc3=5579910>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 50929 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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God what are you talking about how can one of us humans expect to
even stand on the same ground as a goddess, next you will be saying
silly things that mention the other goddess linda harrison .
Please start living in the real world???
Only kidding!!!!
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...>
wrote:
>
> When you say ANYTHING....would you have made love to Estella Warren?
>
> :)
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > highly unikely but...umm....hell yes! although I remember when
they
> were making Burton's my instinct was to do anything I could to be
in
> it....but I actually decided that I'd rather just watch (not that I
> could have marched in there and gotten a part!)....sort of like,
not
> wanting to go backstage at Cirque du Soleil!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 6:09 PM
> > > If you get a part will you take it? :)
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
> > > \"apefan\"" <apefan23@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > probably not....first because it wounds like it really
> > > won't have
> > > anything to do with it! and because it isn't from THAT
> > > world which is
> > > what I like about POTA....those characters, those
> > > stories....like I
> > > said I was more than willing to accept
> > > Burton's...especially because
> > > of the title but I'm just going to sit back and see
> > > about this new
> > > one....who knows...if it's a great movie, I'll be
> > > all over it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Neil Foster <ntfoster@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@>
> > > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT
> > > REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 3:53 PM
> > > > > So you will accept this new movie as 'Planet
> > > of the
> > > > > Apes'?
> > > > >
> > > > > Neil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > > > Of Tim "apefan"
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:59 AM
> > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT
> > > REMAKING
> > > > > CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Neil...come on.....you know I enjoy and
> > > appreciate and
> > > > > welcome new
> > > > > things...I dig (and buy) all the new toys and
> > > comics....and
> > > > > I was
> > > > > absolutly welcoming to POTA 2001 .....until it
> > > got made!
> > > > >
> > > > > ANY new story with Zira, Cornelius and Zaius
> > > would just
> > > > > muck it up...not
> > > > > to mention the difficulty Rich would have trying
> > > to fit any
> > > > > new story
> > > > > lines in to the timeline!
> > > > >
> > > > > POTA is NOT dead ..look at all the new
> > > merchandise.....and
> > > > > I've heard of
> > > > > young people ...many who have found these
> > > groups...that are
> > > > > into the
> > > > > originals ...
> > > > > Films do not have to constantly be remade for
> > > fans to find
> > > > > and
> > > > > appreciate them....
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Neil <ntfoster@bigpond.
> > > > > <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com> com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Neil <ntfoster@bigpond.
> > > > > <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com> com>
> > > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT
> > > REMAKING
> > > > > CONQUEST OF POTA"
> > > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> > > > > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:01 AM
> > > > > > And we wonder why POTA is dead and
> > > considered old
> > > > > fashioned
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > treated as a bit of a joke by the younger
> > > generations.
> > > > > As
> > > > > > far as I can
> > > > > > tell there's too many 'old fans'
> > > not
> > > > > prepared
> > > > > > to move on or even try
> > > > > > something a bit different.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frankly as far as I'm concerned we
> > > deserve what
> > > > > little
> > > > > > (we think) we
> > > > > > get (even though we get plenty for a dead
> > > old
> > > > > franchise.)
> > > > > > Almost
> > > > > > anything new or slightly daring or different
> > > usually
> > > > > gets
> > > > > > met with way
> > > > > > too much negativity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> > > > > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> > > "Tim
> > > > > > \"apefan\""
> > > > > <apefan23@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would rather it be on it's own as
> > > well....I
> > > > > > don't want a new POTA
> > > > > > or even a new take on the old POTA
> > > >
> >
>
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I really don't take any of this negative talk on Caesar too serious.
Remeber, back in 2001 most POTA fans where saying the same thing about Burton's POTA.
 
And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't seen Burton's POTA.
So what does that tell you? ;o)
 
Al


From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:41:14 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

So how do people who won't accept a film using a character named Caesar as Planet of the Apes, feel about Return to the Planet of the Apes?
That used familiar names (obviously for the recognition factor and to cash in on the originals) but the settings, technology and just about everything else was NOT classic POTA. 
Is Return acceptable as 'Planet of the Apes'? Or should it be renamed 'Return To The Planet Where Apes Talk And Rule On A Planet Which Isn't Really THE Planet of the Apes? ;-)
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

probably not....first because it wounds like it really won't have anything to do with it! and because it isn't from THAT world which is what I like about POTA....those characters, those stories....

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Bravo well said.
To cap it of i also bet not one member hasn't at least one item from
the new film , be it a autograph/toy/poster/book or even screen used
costume and masks.
So how can anyone say that Burton's version has no merit at all.
Personally i thought the masks where fantastic and the gorilla army
costumes ( I want one ).
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I really don't take any of this negative talk on Caesar too serious.
> Remeber, back in 2001 most POTA fans where saying the same thing
about Burton's POTA.
>
> And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't
seen Burton's POTA.
> So what does that tell you? ;o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
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Exactly.
Bottom line: No matter how negative anyone gets towards Caesar, they will go see it and give it the benefit of the doubt.
Samething happened with POTA2001, samething will happen with Caesar, and same will happen for the next 50 POTA attempts for years years to come. That's just a simple matter of fact.
 
So again. Why be so negative?
Just smile and be happy. :o)
 
Al

 


From: haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:22:42 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

Bravo well said.
To cap it of i also bet not one member hasn't at least one item from
the new film , be it a autograph/toy/ poster/book or even screen used
costume and masks.
So how can anyone say that Burton's version has no merit at all.
Personally i thought the masks where fantastic and the gorilla army
costumes ( I want one ).
Mark

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@.. .> wrote:
>
> I really don't take any of this negative talk on Caesar too serious.
> Remeber, back in 2001 most POTA fans where saying the same thing
about Burton's POTA.
>
> And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't
seen Burton's POTA.
> So what does that tell you? ;o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@.. .>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:41:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
> So how do people who won't accept a film using a character named
Caesar as Planet of the Apes, feel about Return to the Planet of the
Apes?
> That used familiar names (obviously for the recognition factor and
to cash in on the originals) but the settings, technology and just
about everything else was NOT classic POTA. 
> Is Return acceptable as 'Planet of the Apes'? Or should it be
renamed 'Return To The Planet Where Apes Talk And Rule On A Planet
Which Isn't Really THE Planet of the Apes? ;-)
>
> Neil
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:04 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
> probably not....first because it wounds like it really won't have
anything to do with it! and because it isn't from THAT world which is
what I like about POTA....those characters, those stories....
> .
>


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Group: potadg Message: 50933 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/29/2009
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Actually I believe there is at least one person who hasn't.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't seen Burton's POTA.
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Joanne Van Ewyk has contributed scans of an article from Famous
Monsters of Filmland Issue 52. This is the first article FM ran about
the Apes movies. Thanks, Joanne!

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 50935 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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In a message dated 1/29/09 5:43:42 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
 
So how do people who won't accept a film using a character named Caesar as Planet of the Apes, feel about Return to the Planet of the Apes?
 
*** The RETURN series is the bastard child of the first two films... That or the last clunk before the engine died. ***
 
 
That used familiar names (obviously for the recognition factor and to cash in on the originals) but the settings, technology and just about everything else was NOT classic POTA
 
*** On the contrary, RETURN actually used many things as seen in the first two films... They had The Forbidden Zone, they hunted humans (although in the dumb "let's gas 'em" scenario), the Orangutans were the only ones that really knew the Secrets of the Apes origins and Humanity's downfall, they had chimp scientists, a power mad General, Mutants (which sucked!) Humans were thought of and seen as beasts which were a plague, and so on... Yes, there are a lot of S T U P I D things in RETURN which are not "Classic APES", but there were actually more APES elements in it than a lot of the "original" comic stories from the 70s and 90s had. My biggest problem with RETURN is the way it was executed... Put the storyline from that series in the setting seen in PLANET/BENEATH and they might have had something good... That or they should have just pulled a STAR TREK and had RETURN pick up where the TV series left off... ***


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Group: potadg Message: 50936 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
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*** You wanna bet on that?!?! We're going on 8 years and I've NEVER watched it! ***
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/09 6:15:59 PM Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:
And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't seen Burton's POTA.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50937 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
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*** Damn straight. ***
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/09 8:46:46 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
Actually I believe there is at least one person who hasn't.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50938 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/29/2009
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*** I'm not saying I would never see "CAESAR," all I'm really saying is that if I'd see it, I'd be looking at it as it's own thing, and not going into it thinking "This is the rebirth of the APES franchise," or worse yet, going into it blindly thinking "This is a new APES film." I'd be taking it as it's own thing... It's way too early on to know what they'll do as far as promotion and how they'll treat the originals when marketing their quasi-APES film, but if they go into it trying to erase the original APES like they did with pota2001, then I will absolutely NOT see it. No way, no how.
 
And Neil, I can see you POV about people like myself, Tim, and a few others when you ask "Where do you draw the line on what is or isn't APES?" Let me put it to you like this: There are people for whom only the 60s STAR TREK is TREK... Then there are some who really only dig ST:TNG because it was "updated" for the time it was made. Others will like both the original and TNG because the TNG didn't bastardize ST but they don't try to mesh the two because they really know they are separate entities, and then there are some who love EVERY entity of the TREK name simply because it's ST... TREK fans have all sorts of variables as to what it's followers like and don't like, etc. Why should APES be any different? ***
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/09 7:19:08 PM Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:
Bottom line: No matter how negative anyone gets towards Caesar, they will go see it and give it the benefit of the doubt.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50939 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
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Sounds like religon!!!

:)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
And Neil, I can see you POV about people like myself, Tim, and a few
others when you ask "Where do you draw the line on what is or isn't
APES?" Let me put it to you like this: There are people for whom only
the 60s STAR TREK is TREK... Then there are some who really only dig
ST:TNG because it was "updated" for the time it was made. Others will
like both the original and TNG because the TNG didn't bastardize ST but
they don't try to mesh the two because they really know they are
separate entities, and then there are some who love EVERY entity of the
TREK name simply because it's ST... TREK fans have all sorts of
variables as to what it's followers like and don't like, etc. Why
should APES be any different? ***
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Group: potadg Message: 50940 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
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And you have no merchandise also i bet?
If you havn't seen it then your views of the film are also nil and
viod??
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** You wanna bet on that?!?! We're going on 8 years and I've
NEVER watched
> it! ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/29/09 6:15:59 PM Central Standard Time,
> pota1968@... writes:
>
> And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't
seen
> Burton's POTA.
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 50941 From: nlmoxham Date: 1/30/2009
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That would've been awesome, the storyline from RETURN is much better
than the TV series. I wonder why they didn't pick up from the TV
series, weren't the guys who organised the cartoon involved in that
some way? And they did reuse Zaius and Urko...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> My biggest problem with RETURN is the way it was
> executed... Put the storyline from that series in the setting seen
in
> PLANET/BENEATH and they might have had something good... That or
they should have
> just pulled a STAR TREK and had RETURN pick up where the TV series
left off...
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Group: potadg Message: 50942 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/30/2009
Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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Never bothered to see Burton's POTA? Linda Harrison nor Heston's cameos either?
Man, that's pretty amazing.
 
Al
 


From: "mlccougar@..." <mlccougar@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

*** You wanna bet on that?!?! We're going on 8 years and I've NEVER watched it! ***
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/09 6:15:59 PM Central Standard Time, pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't seen Burton's POTA.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50943 From: rassmguy Date: 1/30/2009
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In truth, he's not missing much regarding Heston's cameo--I've always
found that to be one of the worst aspects of the film.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
> Never bothered to see Burton's POTA? Linda Harrison nor Heston's
cameos either?
> Man, that's pretty amazing.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> >
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Group: potadg Message: 50944 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/30/2009
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Not to mention the incredible restraint from watching.
As a Planet of the Apes fan of course. Really amazing.
 
Al


From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:48:00 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

In truth, he's not missing much regarding Heston's cameo--I've always
found that to be one of the worst aspects of the film.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@.. .> wrote:
> Never bothered to see Burton's POTA? Linda Harrison nor Heston's
cameos either?
> Man, that's pretty amazing.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: "mlccougar@. .." <mlccougar@. ..>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:53:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
> *** You wanna bet on that?!?! We're going on 8 years and I've NEVER
watched it! ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/29/09 6:15:59 PM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
> And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't
seen Burton's POTA.
>


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Group: potadg Message: 50945 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/30/2009
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The issue is not what you thought of their cameos. The issue is being a huge fan of POTA and passing up a chance to see two major stars from the original POTA doing a cameo in a remake years later. Now that to me shows an incredible retraint. Just totally blows my mind.
 
All Hail Cougar! :o)
 
Al
 


From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:48:00 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"

In truth, he's not missing much regarding Heston's cameo--I've always
found that to be one of the worst aspects of the film.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@.. .> wrote:
> Never bothered to see Burton's POTA? Linda Harrison nor Heston's
cameos either?
> Man, that's pretty amazing.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: "mlccougar@. .." <mlccougar@. ..>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:53:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
> *** You wanna bet on that?!?! We're going on 8 years and I've NEVER
watched it! ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/29/09 6:15:59 PM Central Standard Time,
pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
> And yet, there is not one person on either POTA group that hasn't
seen Burton's POTA.
>


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Group: potadg Message: 50946 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
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The fact that you have not even attempted to watch this and condone
it ???? are you sure that your not a trekkie instead.
Ha Ha joking!!!!
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> The issue is not what you thought of their cameos. The issue is
being a huge fan of POTA and passing up a chance to see two major
stars from the original POTA doing a cameo in a remake years later.
Now that to me shows an incredible retraint. Just totally blows my
mind.
>
> All Hail Cougar! :o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 50947 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/30/2009
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> Not to mention the incredible restraint from watching.
> As a Planet of the Apes fan of course. Really amazing.

I never saw it until Fox aired it one night, and my curiosity overcame
my revulsion. Until it was over. The full revulsion came back.

I never purchased anything related to the Burton movie, though I do
own a copy, because it came in the Ape head DVD set.

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 50948 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
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*** I've seen a picture of Heston made-up and he looked horrible... And as far as Harrison, she was in a film trailer (I did see one of those) and from what I understand, her cameo was hardly longer than the blurb in there. Either way, I wish both of them had refused to take any part in it... All they did was feed the beast that dragged suckers in thinking "Oh, this will be great, we get to see Linda and Heston." ***
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/09 5:45:07 AM Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:
Never bothered to see Burton's POTA? Linda Harrison nor Heston's cameos either?
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50949 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
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*** If I wanted to watch it, the used DVD store has plenty of copies collecting dust. They can keep them, even for the $4 they're asking. ***
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/09 9:15:26 AM Central Standard Time, markhaydon3@... writes:
The fact that you have not even attempted to watch this and condone it ???? are you sure that your not a trekkie instead.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50951 From: rassmguy Date: 1/30/2009
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Much to my surprise, the novels and comics based on that film are a
good deal better than the movie itself.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
> I never purchased anything related to the Burton movie, though I do
> own a copy, because it came in the Ape head DVD set.
>
> Hunter
>
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Group: potadg Message: 50952 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
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I have got a copy only because when my sister got devorced she
cleared everything out and i ended up with a copy.
However if everyone is claiming to think its rubbish or havn't or
wont see it , how come screen worn masks and costumes cost so bloody
much to get your hands on ???????
So fans of the Burton film are out there.
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** If I wanted to watch it, the used DVD store has plenty of
copies
> collecting dust. They can keep them, even for the $4 they're
asking. ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/30/09 9:15:26 AM Central Standard Time,
> markhaydon3@... writes:
>
> The fact that you have not even attempted to watch this and
condone it ????
> are you sure that your not a trekkie instead.
>
>
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> _Click here: Mego Dr. Zaius Prototype: Planet of the Apes Gallery: Mego
> Museum : Mego Corp_ (http://www.megomuseum.com/pota/pzaius.html

The soldier page is:

http://www.megomuseum.com/pota/psoldier.html"

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 50954 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
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Does anyone think it’s a coincidence that a chimp was chosen for the head and, more specifically, the head of CAESAR?

At the time I thought it was a curious choice and I wondered if maybe FOX was trying to raise public awareness of Caesar.

 

Michael

 


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I never purchased anything related to the Burton movie, though I do
own a copy, because it came in the Ape head DVD set.

Hunter

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Group: potadg Message: 50955 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
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WOW!  These are great!

 


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Group: potadg Message: 50956 From: haydon.mark Date: 1/30/2009
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I hope your wrong because otherwise its taken fox over 30 years to
exploite your thoughts.
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone think it's a coincidence that a chimp was chosen for
the head
> and, more specifically, the head of CAESAR?
>
> At the time I thought it was a curious choice and I wondered if
maybe FOX
> was trying to raise public awareness of Caesar.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Hunter Goatley
> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 2:20 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
> I never purchased anything related to the Burton movie, though I do
> own a copy, because it came in the Ape head DVD set.
>
> Hunter
>
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Group: potadg Message: 50957 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
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*** I think it's all a coincidence... The head was released too far ahead of any announcement(s) of the (possible) CAESAR film to say "They're trying to drive chimps into the public consciousness."
 
I think the reason they went with him instead of Cornelius was because they didn't want to invest the extra time, effort, and maybe costs into designing the bust to have the leather collar with hieroglyphics on it. I'm sure it was NOT an early form of subliminal brainwashing... ***
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/09 12:14:40 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
Does anyone think it's a coincidence that a chimp was chosen for the head and, more specifically, the head of CAESAR?
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50958 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
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*** The "Ultimate" DVD collection (AKA "The Caesar head") isn't near 30 years old. ***
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/09 1:17:17 PM Central Standard Time, markhaydon3@... writes:
I hope your wrong because otherwise its taken fox over 30 years to exploite your thoughts.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50959 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
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I’m talking about the release of all movies, toons, TV Show and POTS 2001 together in the “Caesar Head”.

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of haydon.mark
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 5:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Speaking of head......

 

I hope your wrong because otherwise its taken fox over 30 years to
exploite your thoughts.
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:

>
> Does anyone think it's a coincidence that a chimp was chosen for
the head
> and, more specifically, the head of CAESAR?
>
> At the time I thought it was a curious choice and I wondered if
maybe FOX
> was trying to raise public awareness of Caesar.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of
> Hunter Goatley
> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 2:20 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
>
> I never purchased anything related to the
w:st="on">Burton movie, though I do
> own a copy, because it came in the Ape head DVD set.
>
> Hunter
>

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Group: potadg Message: 50960 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/30/2009
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I disagree.

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 5:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

 

*** I think it's all a coincidence. .. The head was released too far ahead of any announcement( s) of the (possible) CAESAR film to say "They're trying to drive chimps into the public consciousness. "

 

I think the reason they went with him instead of Cornelius was because they didn't want to invest the extra time, effort, and maybe costs into designing the bust to have the leather collar with hieroglyphics on it. I'm sure it was NOT an early form of subliminal brainwashing. .. ***

 

 

In a message dated 1/30/09 12:14:40 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

Does anyone think it’s a coincidence that a chimp was chosen for the head and, more specifically, the head of CAESAR?

 

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Group: potadg Message: 50961 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
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*** Yes, but on what grounds? The "ULTIMATE" collection was released in what, 2005 or so?
 
You're making an awful big leap of faith if you think they made that head to get people primed up for a film that will deal with a mute, signing ape who ends up being a revolutionary of sorts... Add to that that the CAESAR film, if it even gets made, will not be released until at least 2010/2011... At the time of the "ULTIMATE" release, it's doubtful anything was even planned, even in a preliminary state because if it was, why the hell would they wait three years to announce it?
 
Even if you say the Caesar bust was just to get people primed up for the release of the "Director's cut" of CONQUEST with the Blu-Ray set, I wouldn't buy that either... Why would they release CONQUEST yet again if they knew they were going to release it again at the time of the 40th Anniversary of PLANET? And you can't say "Well, they were getting people excited about the Blu-Ray releases" because A) At the time, they weren't even sure if Blu-Ray or HD-DVD was going to be the high end format, and B) The Blu-Ray set was a last minute rush job. They wanted to jump on the bandwagon so they finally dragged their asses into the vault to get the original cut of CONQUEST so they could use that as their draw card (the same way RETURN was their short-lived "ace in the hole" to get people to buy the "ULTIMATE" collection)... The Caesar head is NOT to promote the idea of a film that might never get made. (And no, I don't mean that to be negative toward the film, I'm saying it matter of factly... Look how many times in the past films have been announced and then they never get made... Even on the FMC bit, that guy says something like "It may not get made this time around, but it will eventually.")
 
In a message dated 1/30/09 6:02:32 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
I disagree.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50963 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/30/2009
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*** Whitty, are you in politics or something? You more or less asked it in the form of an "I want your opinion" question as you stated below:
 
In a message dated 1/30/09 12:14:40 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
Does anyone think it's a coincidence that a chimp was chosen for the head and, more specifically, the head of CAESAR?
I gave you my opinion and why I feel that way and then you tell me you disagree... It's fine that you disagree and all, but why ask what people think if you're not going to (possibly) agree with them or at least give reasons why you disagree with their POV? It's like asking someone "Do you prefer Coke or Pepsi", they tell you they prefer Coke and then you say "You're nuts, only freaks drink Coke."
 
I guess you want everyone to follow Homer Simpson's Code of the School-yard: "Don't say anything unless you're sure everyone agrees with you."... Well, I broke your code and stand by it ;)
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/09 6:02:32 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
I disagree.
 


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Group: potadg Message: 50964 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 1/31/2009
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    was so sad to hear of ricardo's passing.what a brilliant man.he was one of the leading actors in the industry.when he plays alongside roddy in conquest...there is so much emotion, when caesar goes on the run.
    wayne sylvester

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    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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    Title:   James Franciscus' Birthday
     
    Date:   Saturday January 31, 2009
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    Group: potadg Message: 50965 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/31/2009
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    Why did they use CAESAR’s head, not a more RECOGNISABLE ape?

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 2:55 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    *** Whitty, are you in politics or something? You more or less asked it in the form of an "I want your opinion" question as you stated below:

     

    In a message dated 1/30/09 12:14:40 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

    Does anyone think it’s a coincidence that a chimp was chosen for the head and, more specifically, the head of CAESAR?

    I gave you my opinion and why I feel that way and then you tell me you disagree... It's fine that you disagree and all, but why ask what people think if you're not going to (possibly) agree with them or at least give reasons why you disagree with their POV? It's like asking someone "Do you prefer Coke or Pepsi", they tell you they prefer Coke and then you say "You're nuts, only freaks drink Coke."

     

    I guess you want everyone to follow Homer Simpson's Code of the School-yard: "Don't say anything unless you're sure everyone agrees with you."... Well, I broke your code and stand by it ;)

     

     

     

    In a message dated 1/30/09 6:02:32 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

    I disagree.

     

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    Group: potadg Message: 50966 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/31/2009
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    *** I covered that in my post... And do we really know that is Caesar and not some generic chimp? At the rate things are going, nobody will ever know what Caesar really looks like... He doesn't look right as the ULTIMATE bust, the fake one on the Blu-Ray set doesn't look anything like him either... Will the real Caesar please stand up? ***
     
     
    In a message dated 1/31/09 1:28:11 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
    Why did they use CAESAR's head, not a more RECOGNISABLE ape?
     


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    Group: potadg Message: 50967 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/31/2009
    Subject: Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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    Fair enough Mike.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:14 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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    "Where do you draw the line on what is or isn't APES?" Let me put it to you like this: There are people for whom only the 60s STAR TREK is TREK... Then there are some who really only dig ST:TNG because it was "updated" for the time it was made. Others will like both the original and TNG because the TNG didn't bastardize ST but they don't try to mesh the two because they really know they are separate entities, and then there are some who love EVERY entity of the TREK name simply because it's ST... TREK fans have all sorts of variables as to what it's followers like and don't like, etc. Why should APES be any different? ***
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    Group: potadg Message: 50968 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/31/2009
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    I have to agree with Rich about that and Heston's make up was one of the few I didn't like.
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:48 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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    In truth, he's not missing much regarding Heston's cameo--I've always
    found that to be one of the worst aspects of the film.

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 50969 From: Neil Foster Date: 1/31/2009
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    I haven't read the novels but I quite liked the comics, some of the art was great.
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:37 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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    Much to my surprise, the novels and comics based on that film are a
    good deal better than the movie itself.

    .

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    I've updated my site to add the following new items:

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    Group: potadg Message: 50971 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 1/31/2009
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    Welcome, jsd5150@....

    Please tell the group a bit about yourself and what you like about Planet of
    the Apes.

    Michael

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    Group: potadg Message: 50972 From: nlmoxham Date: 1/31/2009
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    Me too, I haven't seen any of the novels but I have all the spin-off
    comics and they're pretty good. The art looks nothing at all like
    classic POTA, but I enjoyed them and the stories are better than in
    the movie.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
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    > I haven't read the novels but I quite liked the comics, some of the
    art
    > was great.
    >
    > Neil
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    >
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    > Of rassmguy
    > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:37 AM
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    > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "I'M NOT REMAKING CONQUEST OF POTA"
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    >
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    > Much to my surprise, the novels and comics based on that film are a
    > good deal better than the movie itself.
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    Group: potadg Message: 50973 From: Jeff Date: 2/1/2009
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    A couple of weeks back, somone mentioned seeing the actors' teeth behind the appliances in the series. 
    i was just watching "The Deception" and YES you can see Jane Actman's teeth as Fauna.  It seems everyone else had their teeth blacked out (you see shiny black teeth), but hers are bright white.
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    Group: potadg Message: 50974 From: Jeff Date: 2/1/2009
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    I'm watching the series(I watch it a lot) and never noticed how many air pockets show up in a lot of ape faces.  But, then again,  I'm using my projector to watch it on the wall 10--12 ft wide.
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    Group: potadg Message: 50975 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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    Eeeee aaaahhh  Yeah, that'd do it.
    Actually, Kim had to make a trip
    to the trailer to unceremoniously
    have her makeup pried up and a
    bubble squeezed out to the nearest
    edge.  Every Apes worst nightmare.
    Personally, I'd rather they just take a
    needle and suck the bubble out and
    replace it with more adhesive.  But
    that's just me. Hit it with novocain
    while you're there in case you stick me.
     
    In a message dated 2/1/2009 1:23:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, skintricks@... writes:
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    Group: potadg Message: 50976 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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    Sound like someone didn't make their trip by the trailer
    after lunch, doesn't it?  You'd think they'd catch that.
     
     
    In a message dated 2/1/2009 1:03:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, skintricks@... writes:
    was just watching "The Deception" and YES you can see Jane Actman's teeth as Fauna. 


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    Group: potadg Message: 50977 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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    Maybe she just refused to have them blacked out or something?

     


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    Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 7:41 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] tv series teeth

     

     

    Sound like someone didn't make their trip by the trailer

    after lunch, doesn't it?  You'd think they'd catch that.

     

     

    In a message dated 2/1/2009 1:03:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, skintricks@cox. net writes:

    was just watching "The Deception" and YES you can see Jane Actman's teeth as Fauna. 

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    Group: potadg Message: 50978 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
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    Maybe not, you never know how there minds work (if at all!). Seems odd that there was a sudden focus on Caesar, not one of the apes that the general public would know the best.
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:25 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

    *** I think it's all a coincidence. .. The head was released too far ahead of any announcement( s) of the (possible) CAESAR film to say "They're trying to drive chimps into the public consciousness. "
    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 50979 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
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    I don't think that would have significantly raised the costs.
    I still don't understand why they didn't go with a more recognised character such as Zaius. A Zaius wouldn't have cost more to make would it.
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:25 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

    I think the reason they went with him instead of Cornelius was because they didn't want to invest the extra time, effort, and maybe costs into designing the bust to have the leather collar with hieroglyphics on it. I'm sure it was NOT an early form of subliminal brainwashing. .. ***
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    Group: potadg Message: 50980 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
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    What the...?
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:55 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

    I gave you my opinion and why I feel that way and then you tell me you disagree... It's fine that you disagree and all, but why ask what people think if you're not going to (possibly) agree with them or at least give reasons why you disagree with their POV? It's like asking someone "Do you prefer Coke or Pepsi", they tell you they prefer Coke and then you say "You're nuts, only freaks drink Coke."
     
    I guess you want everyone to follow Homer Simpson's Code of the School-yard: "Don't say anything unless you're sure everyone agrees with you."... Well, I broke your code and stand by it ;)
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    Group: potadg Message: 50981 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
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    Exactly what I was thinking, why go with Caesar? It's not as if that is the character fans dress up as and go to conventions etc. as is it? There are Apes characters more recognisable to the general public which would have made much more sense to use if there wasn't  an ulterior motive.
    Even Apemania don't use a Caesar character do they?
     
    Neil
     
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    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:28 PM
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    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

    Why did they use CAESAR’s head, not a more RECOGNISABLE ape?

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 50982 From: Neil Foster Date: 2/1/2009
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    Everywhere I've seen the thing it's been referred to as being Caesar.
     
    Neil
     
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    *** I covered that in my post... And do we really know that is Caesar and not some generic chimp? At the rate things are going, nobody will ever know what Caesar really looks like... He doesn't look right as the ULTIMATE bust, the fake one on the Blu-Ray set doesn't look anything like him either... Will the real Caesar please stand up? ***
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    Group: potadg Message: 50983 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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    I can’t imagine it would cost any more.

     

    I think we can actually rule out the cost as an issue because it couldn’t cost any more to do a standard gorilla (surely Ursus/Urko with helmet would cost more) or Zaius and they would be more recognizable or even Cornelius…how would he cost more?

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:08 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    I don't think that would have significantly raised the costs.

    I still don't understand why they didn't go with a more recognised character such as Zaius. A Zaius wouldn't have cost more to make would it.

     

    Neil

     

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    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:25 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

    I think the reason they went with him instead of Cornelius was because they didn't want to invest the extra time, effort, and maybe costs into designing the bust to have the leather collar with hieroglyphics on it. I'm sure it was NOT an early form of subliminal brainwashing. .. ***

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    Group: potadg Message: 50984 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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    I think Mike read too much into my brief response.

     

    I wasn’t intending anything by it other than to say I disagree….which I do.

     

    I was actually hoping to get the opinions of others in the group too…..

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:10 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    What the...?

     

    Neil

     

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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:55 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

    I gave you my opinion and why I feel that way and then you tell me you disagree... It's fine that you disagree and all, but why ask what people think if you're not going to (possibly) agree with them or at least give reasons why you disagree with their POV? It's like asking someone "Do you prefer Coke or Pepsi", they tell you they prefer Coke and then you say "You're nuts, only freaks drink Coke."

     

    I guess you want everyone to follow Homer Simpson's Code of the School-yard: "Don't say anything unless you're sure everyone agrees with you."... Well, I broke your code and stand by it ;)

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    Moxy

    These are GREAT!

    Where did you get 'em?

    Michael

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    Group: potadg Message: 50986 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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    In a message dated 2/1/09 6:06:24 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
    Maybe not, you never know how there minds work (if at all!).
    *** That's true, I mean they did give production the go ahead to use fake apes on the packaging, knowing full well they had vintage pictures of the real APES stars in their makeups ;) ***
     
     
    Seems odd that there was a sudden focus on Caesar, not one of the apes that the general public would know the best.
     
    *** I still don't get where you and Whitty think there was this sudden focus? One ugly APES bust and a comic mini-series and that was the extent of it as far as anything new featuring Caesar... Plus, Caesar's mug was all over merchandise in the 70s (though usually misidentified as Cornelius or Galen) and even the excellent MEDICOM line went out of their way to make a "slave" and BATTLE version of him: I didn't see you and Whitty asking "Why the focus" when those came out. ;)


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    Group: potadg Message: 50987 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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    *** I wish they would have made the ULTIMATE case a LAWGIVER bust, as seen in the courtroom in PLANET... I would bought it just for that. ***
     
     
    In a message dated 2/1/09 6:09:12 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
    I don't think that would have significantly raised the costs.
    I still don't understand why they didn't go with a more recognised character such as Zaius. A Zaius wouldn't have cost more to make would it.
     


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    *** It wouldn't make sense for them to: Caesar wouldn't mesh well with characters from PLANET/BENEATH. I mean a son who's parents were killed while he was an infant going to his parents time and hanging with them while he is an adult?!? That'd just be messed up... But, to answer your question: They did use dress up as slave Caesar for the Blu-Rays, so they do/did attempt Caesar at least once. ***
     
     
    In a message dated 2/1/09 6:15:25 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
    Even Apemania doesn't use a Caesar character do they?
     


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    Group: potadg Message: 50989 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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    *** As I said, it would have cost more because they would have had to get someone to create and manufacture the hieroglyphics and then they would have had the extra expense of the vinyl itself and getting the hieroglyphics imprinted onto it. I'm sure it wouldn't have added up to too much extra expense, but companies do nickel and dime things.
     
    And I do not say it was absolutely a cost issue, that's a possible reason... But I still say it was all a coincidence and it has nothing to do with brainwashing Joe Q. Public to see a film that may not even get made. ***
     
    In a message dated 2/1/09 7:41:03 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
    I think we can actually rule out the cost as an issue because it couldn't cost any more to do a standard gorilla (surely Ursus/Urko with helmet would cost more) or Zaius and they would be more recognizable or even Cornelius…how would he cost more?
     


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    Group: potadg Message: 50990 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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    That wasn’t a FOCUS, it was an INCLUSION in a line of over 20 different figures.

     

    AND they released the more POPULAR ones first!

    The HEAD collection is the choice of ONE ape.  Now logically, it should be the most recognizable, or one that sells most copies.  It’s NEITHER.  That’s peculiar.

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 3:21 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    Seems odd that there was a sudden focus on Caesar, not one of the apes that the general public would know the best.

     

    *** I still don't get where you and Whitty think there was this sudden focus? One ugly APES bust and a comic mini-series and that was the extent of it as far as anything new featuring Caesar... Plus, Caesar's mug was all over merchandise in the 70s (though usually misidentified as Cornelius or Galen) and even the excellent MEDICOM line went out of their way to make a "slave" and BATTLE version of him: I didn't see you and Whitty asking "Why the focus" when those came out. ;)

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    Group: potadg Message: 50991 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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    Yeah that’s another example – or the ICARUS.

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 3:23 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    *** I wish they would have made the ULTIMATE case a LAWGIVER bust, as seen in the courtroom in PLANET... I would bought it just for that. ***

     

     

    In a message dated 2/1/09 6:09:12 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

    I don't think that would have significantly raised the costs.

    I still don't understand why they didn't go with a more recognised character such as Zaius. A Zaius wouldn't have cost more to make would it.

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    Yeah but the point is it’s not normal – it’s the EXCEPTION to the norm.

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 3:35 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    *** It wouldn't make sense for them to: Caesar wouldn't mesh well with characters from PLANET/BENEATH. I mean a son who's parents were killed while he was an infant going to his parents time and hanging with them while he is an adult?!? That'd just be messed up... But, to answer your question: They did use dress up as slave Caesar for the Blu-Rays, so they do/did attempt Caesar at least once. ***

     

     

    In a message dated 2/1/09 6:15:25 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

    Even Apemania doesn't use a Caesar character do they?

     

     


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    Group: potadg Message: 50993 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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    Or just not do the glyphs….I don’t think the bust extends down that far does it?

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 3:43 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    *** As I said, it would have cost more because they would have had to get someone to create and manufacture the hieroglyphics and then they would have had the extra expense of the vinyl itself and getting the hieroglyphics imprinted onto it.

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    Group: potadg Message: 50994 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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    But you have no real evidence – it’s just what you believe right?

     

    I’ve said all along I am only guessing – how about you?

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 3:43 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

     

    And I do not say it was absolutely a cost issue, that's a possible reason... But I still say it was all a coincidence and it has nothing to do with brainwashing Joe Q. Public to see a film that may not even get made. ***

     

    In a message dated 2/1/09 7:41:03 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

    I think we can actually rule out the cost as an issue because it couldn’t cost any more to do a standard gorilla (surely Ursus/Urko with helmet would cost more) or Zaius and they would be more recognizable or even Cornelius…how would he cost more?

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    Group: potadg Message: 50995 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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    *** Hell yeah, that would have been excellent... Something that size might have even been large enough to use as a prop for the MEGO Astronauts (TV series ship of course). ***
     
    In a message dated 2/1/09 2:51:47 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
    Yeah that's another example – or the ICARUS.
     


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    Group: potadg Message: 50996 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
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      I have just completed my own story for APES TV;called
      THE WEDDING;The story centres around femalechimp Zegar about to marry Councillor zaius new assistant Galfrey...but Zegar is kidnapped by Galen and Burke, when Urko's gorilla's catch Virdon.A written warning is left in Zaius office, that if Virdon is not released, Zegar will pay the price..Virdon is eventually released against Urko's wishes, when Burke ambushes the Gorilla keeping guard on Virdon, and Galen allows Zegar to continue her journey to the Wedding Temple...wearing her large crimson dress, bonnet and fresh dandelions has a bouquet!Galen feels bad about causing distress to another chimp...but is also glad that Virdon is free...and the trio scarper to another village...forever in fear of being captured.
      c; WAYNE SYLVESTER
      --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
      From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 8:54 PM

      But you have no real evidence – it's just what you believe right?

       

      I've said all along I am only guessing – how about you?

       


      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
      Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 3:43 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Speaking of head......

       

      And I do not say it was absolutely a cost issue, that's a possible reason... But I still say it was all a coincidence and it has nothing to do with brainwashing Joe Q. Public to see a film that may not even get made. ***

       

      In a message dated 2/1/09 7:41:03 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

      I think we can actually rule out the cost as an issue because it couldn't cost any more to do a standard gorilla (surely Ursus/Urko with helmet would cost more) or Zaius and they would be more recognizable or even Cornelius…how would he cost more?


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      Group: potadg Message: 50997 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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      If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your story... I like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit more "realistically" under their circumstances... In other words, while I'm sure normally Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they did take an action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same way it would have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans asses rather than K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They could beat the crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before they even took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans armed with machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed a stick to ward off any attempted slashings)...
       
       


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      Group: potadg Message: 50998 From: haydon.mark Date: 2/1/2009
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      What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came to
      unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm sure
      even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense to
      realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of there
      arms???
      But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they are
      more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real world ).
      So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence to
      hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
      Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
      Mark
      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
      >
      > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
      story... I
      > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit more
      > "realistically" under their circumstances... In other words, while
      I'm sure normally
      > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they did
      take an
      > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
      way it would
      > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
      asses rather than
      > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
      could beat the
      > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
      they even
      > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans armed
      with
      > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed a
      stick to ward off
      > any attempted slashings)...
      >
      >
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      Group: potadg Message: 50999 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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      I agree.

      The TV Show was just so....Swiss Family Robinson...know what I mean?

      Nothing Gordon Ramsay and a bit of biffo couldn't change... :)

      Michael

      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
      >
      > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
      story... I
      > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit more
      > "realistically" under their circumstances... In other words, while
      I'm sure normally
      > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they did
      take an
      > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
      way it would
      > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
      asses rather than
      > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
      could beat the
      > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
      they even
      > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans armed
      with
      > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed a
      stick to ward off
      > any attempted slashings)...
      >
      >
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      Group: potadg Message: 51000 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
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      I have to agree again.

      It never occured to me when I was a kid watching them - I was just so
      happy something else POTA was on!

      But now it's all a bit "yell at the TV!".

      Apologies to TV Show fans who disagree! xoxo

      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
      >
      > What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came
      to
      > unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm sure
      > even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense to
      > realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of
      there
      > arms???
      > But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they are
      > more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real
      world ).
      > So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence to
      > hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
      > Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
      > Mark
      > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@ wrote:
      > >
      > > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
      > story... I
      > > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit
      more
      > > "realistically" under their circumstances... In other words,
      while
      > I'm sure normally
      > > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they
      did
      > take an
      > > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
      > way it would
      > > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
      > asses rather than
      > > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
      > could beat the
      > > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
      > they even
      > > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans
      armed
      > with
      > > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed
      a
      > stick to ward off
      > > any attempted slashings)...
      > >
      > >
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      Group: potadg Message: 51001 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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      Probably.  With Caesar you only need a jumpsuit.
      Zaius need glifs, red blonde hair, blue eyes, etc . . .
       
      In a message dated 2/1/2009 6:09:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
      A Zaius wouldn't have cost more to make would it.


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      Group: potadg Message: 51002 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
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      Whether a bust or desktop statue, that is
      something everyone would want.  And it's
      a statue, so it doesn't need hair on it.
       
      In a message dated 2/1/2009 11:23:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
      *** I wish they would have made the ULTIMATE case a LAWGIVER bust, as seen in the courtroom in PLANET


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      Group: potadg Message: 51003 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
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        the ape wedding had me find screen pics from apes[although off tv screen]...this is my choice of the chimp bride, Zelgar;see pic
        wayne
        --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
        From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RE:AN APE WEDDING.
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:28 PM

        I have to agree again.

        It never occured to me when I was a kid watching them - I was just so
        happy something else POTA was on!

        But now it's all a bit "yell at the TV!".

        Apologies to TV Show fans who disagree! xoxo

        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
        >
        > What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came
        to
        > unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm sure
        > even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense to
        > realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of
        there
        > arms???
        > But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they are
        > more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real
        world ).
        > So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence to
        > hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
        > Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
        > Mark
        > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@ wrote:
        > >
        > > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
        > story... I
        > > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit
        more
        > > "realistically" under their circumstances. .. In other words,
        while
        > I'm sure normally
        > > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they
        did
        > take an
        > > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
        > way it would
        > > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
        > asses rather than
        > > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
        > could beat the
        > > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
        > they even
        > > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans
        armed
        > with
        > > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed
        a
        > stick to ward off
        > > any attempted slashings).. .
        > >
        > >
        > > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
        > >
        (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121788 3258x1201191827/ aol?
        > redir=http://www.dell. com/co
        > > ntent/products/ features. aspx/laptops_ great_deals& #63;c=us% 26cs=19%
        > 26l=en%26s=d
        > > hs%26&#126;ck= anavml)
        > >
        >


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        Group: potadg Message: 51004 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
        Subject: Re: Ape wedding;pic of virdon captured
        .html
        Attachments :
          wayne s;RE;...general idea of scene with virdon in the slammer!PIC 2

          --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
          From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RE:AN APE WEDDING.
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:28 PM

          I have to agree again.

          It never occured to me when I was a kid watching them - I was just so
          happy something else POTA was on!

          But now it's all a bit "yell at the TV!".

          Apologies to TV Show fans who disagree! xoxo

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
          >
          > What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came
          to
          > unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm sure
          > even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense to
          > realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of
          there
          > arms???
          > But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they are
          > more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real
          world ).
          > So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence to
          > hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
          > Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
          > Mark
          > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@ wrote:
          > >
          > > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
          > story... I
          > > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit
          more
          > > "realistically" under their circumstances. .. In other words,
          while
          > I'm sure normally
          > > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they
          did
          > take an
          > > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
          > way it would
          > > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
          > asses rather than
          > > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
          > could beat the
          > > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
          > they even
          > > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans
          armed
          > with
          > > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed
          a
          > stick to ward off
          > > any attempted slashings).. .
          > >
          > >
          > > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
          > >
          (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121788 3258x1201191827/ aol?
          > redir=http://www.dell. com/co
          > > ntent/products/ features. aspx/laptops_ great_deals& #63;c=us% 26cs=19%
          > 26l=en%26s=d
          > > hs%26&#126;ck= anavml)
          > >
          >


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          Group: potadg Message: 51005 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
          Subject: ambush the gorilla;ape wedding pic
          .html
          Attachments :
            GORILLA AMBUSH SCENE;again, my idea of galen shouting for help, has burke creeps up behind Austus, gorilla guard...zonks him on the head...knocks him out...then free virdon!PIC 3

            --- On Sun, 1/2/09wayne, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
            From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RE:AN APE WEDDING.
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:25 PM

            I agree.

            The TV Show was just so....Swiss Family Robinson...know what I mean?

            Nothing Gordon Ramsay and a bit of biffo couldn't change... :)

            Michael

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@.. . wrote:
            >
            > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
            story... I
            > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit more
            > "realistically" under their circumstances. .. In other words, while
            I'm sure normally
            > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they did
            take an
            > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
            way it would
            > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
            asses rather than
            > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
            could beat the
            > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
            they even
            > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans armed
            with
            > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed a
            stick to ward off
            > any attempted slashings).. .
            >
            >
            > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
            > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121788 3258x1201191827/ aol?
            redir=http://www.dell. com/co
            > ntent/products/ features. aspx/laptops_ great_deals& #63;c=us% 26cs=19%
            26l=en%26s=d
            > hs%26&#126;ck= anavml)
            >


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            Group: potadg Message: 51006 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/1/2009
            Subject: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
            .html
            Attachments :
              this is the latest addition to a room full of APES memorabilia.
              i am the one in middle[small pic...thought i would put face to name, for you apies!!!!
              WAYNE SYLVESTER
              I have 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original ep]bought it in china./TV fair event.

              --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
              From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
              Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RE:AN APE WEDDING.
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:28 PM

              I have to agree again.

              It never occured to me when I was a kid watching them - I was just so
              happy something else POTA was on!

              But now it's all a bit "yell at the TV!".

              Apologies to TV Show fans who disagree! xoxo

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
              >
              > What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came
              to
              > unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm sure
              > even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense to
              > realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of
              there
              > arms???
              > But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they are
              > more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real
              world ).
              > So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence to
              > hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
              > Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
              > Mark
              > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@ wrote:
              > >
              > > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
              > story... I
              > > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit
              more
              > > "realistically" under their circumstances. .. In other words,
              while
              > I'm sure normally
              > > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they
              did
              > take an
              > > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
              > way it would
              > > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
              > asses rather than
              > > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
              > could beat the
              > > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
              > they even
              > > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans
              armed
              > with
              > > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed
              a
              > stick to ward off
              > > any attempted slashings).. .
              > >
              > >
              > > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
              > >
              (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121788 3258x1201191827/ aol?
              > redir=http://www.dell. com/co
              > > ntent/products/ features. aspx/laptops_ great_deals& #63;c=us% 26cs=19%
              > 26l=en%26s=d
              > > hs%26&#126;ck= anavml)
              > >
              >


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              Group: potadg Message: 51007 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
              .html
              No glyphs on his riding jacket!

              And do you really think red hair and blue eyes cost more?

              Michael

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
              >
              >
              > Probably. With Caesar you only need a jumpsuit.
              > Zaius need glifs, red blonde hair, blue eyes, etc . . .
              >
              >
              > In a message dated 2/1/2009 6:09:41 A.M. Central Standard Time,
              > ntfoster@... writes:
              >
              > A Zaius wouldn't have cost more to make would it.
              >
              > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
              > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?
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              > ntent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals?c=us%26cs=19%
              26l=en%26s=d
              > hs%26~ck=anavml)
              >
              <.html
              Group: potadg Message: 51008 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: michael, did u like
              .html
              I'm checking in through the group site and I don't see an attachment!

              D'oh!

              Michael

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Sylvester <wayne.sylvester@...>
              wrote:
              >
              > the ape wedding had me find screen pics from apes[although off tv
              screen]....this is my choice of the chimp bride, Zelgar;see pic
              > wayne
              > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
              > From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
              > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RE:AN APE WEDDING.
              > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:28 PM
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > I have to agree again.
              >
              >
              >
              > It never occured to me when I was a kid watching them - I was just
              so
              >
              > happy something else POTA was on!
              >
              >
              >
              > But now it's all a bit "yell at the TV!".
              >
              >
              >
              > Apologies to TV Show fans who disagree! xoxo
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...>
              wrote:
              >
              > >
              >
              > > What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came
              >
              > to
              >
              > > unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm
              sure
              >
              > > even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense
              to
              >
              > > realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of
              >
              > there
              >
              > > arms???
              >
              > > But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they
              are
              >
              > > more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real
              >
              > world ).
              >
              > > So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence
              to
              >
              > > hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
              >
              > > Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
              >
              > > Mark
              >
              > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@ wrote:
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read
              your
              >
              > > story... I
              >
              > > > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit
              >
              > more
              >
              > > > "realistically" under their circumstances. .. In other words,
              >
              > while
              >
              > > I'm sure normally
              >
              > > > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they
              >
              > did
              >
              > > take an
              >
              > > > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The
              same
              >
              > > way it would
              >
              > > > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
              >
              > > asses rather than
              >
              > > > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
              >
              > > could beat the
              >
              > > > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
              >
              > > they even
              >
              > > > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans
              >
              > armed
              >
              > > with
              >
              > > > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least
              grabbed
              >
              > a
              >
              > > stick to ward off
              >
              > > > any attempted slashings).. .
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
              >
              > > >
              >
              > (http://pr.atwola com/promoclk/ 100000075x121788 3258x1201191827/
              aol?
              >
              > > redir=http://www.dell com/co
              >
              > > > ntent/products/ features. aspx/laptops_ great_deals& #63;c=us%
              26cs=19%
              >
              > > 26l=en%26s=d
              >
              > > > hs%26~ck= anavml)
              >
              > > >
              >
              > >
              >
              <.html
              Group: potadg Message: 51009 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original ep]
              .html
              WHAT THE?!?!?

              PLEASE - if you are serious let's show the common people!

              What's in the footage?!?!?!

              Michael (panting)

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Sylvester <wayne.sylvester@...>
              wrote:

              > I have 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original ep]
              bought it in china./TV fair event.
              <.html
              Group: potadg Message: 51010 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: michael, did u like
              .html
              Wow, Wayne.  What a great story.  I'm going to sculpt this chimp, too when I get cracking on sculpting again.  Thanks for posting her.

              Jessica. 

              On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Michael Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

              I'm checking in through the group site and I don't see an attachment!

              D'oh!

              Michael

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Sylvester <wayne.sylvester@...>
              wrote:


              >
              > the ape wedding had me find screen pics from apes[although off tv
              screen]....this is my choice of the chimp bride, Zelgar;see pic
              > wayne
              > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
              > From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>

              > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RE:AN APE WEDDING.
              > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:28 PM
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > I have to agree again.
              >
              >
              >
              > It never occured to me when I was a kid watching them - I was just
              so
              >
              > happy something else POTA was on!
              >
              >
              >
              > But now it's all a bit "yell at the TV!".
              >
              >
              >
              > Apologies to TV Show fans who disagree! xoxo
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...>
              wrote:
              >
              > >
              >
              > > What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came
              >
              > to
              >
              > > unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm
              sure
              >
              > > even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense
              to
              >
              > > realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of
              >
              > there
              >
              > > arms???
              >
              > > But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they
              are
              >
              > > more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real
              >
              > world ).
              >
              > > So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence
              to
              >
              > > hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
              >
              > > Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
              >
              > > Mark
              >
              > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@ wrote:
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read
              your
              >
              > > story... I
              >
              > > > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit
              >
              > more
              >
              > > > "realistically" under their circumstances. .. In other words,
              >
              > while
              >
              > > I'm sure normally
              >
              > > > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they
              >
              > did
              >
              > > take an
              >
              > > > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The
              same
              >
              > > way it would
              >
              > > > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
              >
              > > asses rather than
              >
              > > > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
              >
              > > could beat the
              >
              > > > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
              >
              > > they even
              >
              > > > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans
              >
              > armed
              >
              > > with
              >
              > > > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least
              grabbed
              >
              > a
              >
              > > stick to ward off
              >
              > > > any attempted slashings).. .
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
              >
              > > >
              >
              > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121788 3258x1201191827/
              aol?
              >
              > > redir= http://www.dell. com/co
              >
              > > > ntent/products/ features. aspx/laptops_ great_deals& #63;c=us%
              26cs=19%
              >
              > > 26l=en%26s=d
              >
              > > > hs%26&#126;ck= anavml)
              >
              > > >
              >
              > >
              >


              <.html
              Group: potadg Message: 51011 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
              .html
              Great to see a face to a name, Wayne.
               
              Jessica.

              On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Wayne Sylvester < wayne.sylvester@...> wrote:

              this is the latest addition to a room full of APES memorabilia.
              i am the one in middle[small pic...thought i would put face to name, for you apies!!!!
              WAYNE SYLVESTER
              I have 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original ep]bought it in china./TV fair event.

              --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
              From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
              Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RE:AN APE WEDDING.
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:28 PM

              I have to agree again.

              It never occured to me when I was a kid watching them - I was just so
              happy something else POTA was on!

              But now it's all a bit "yell at the TV!".

              Apologies to TV Show fans who disagree! xoxo

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
              >
              > What about the fact that during the T.V series every time it came
              to
              > unarmed combat Vernon & Burke could beat Gorilla gaurds , i'm sure
              > even back in the good old days of the seventy's we had the sense to
              > realise that gorilla's could break bones with a single swipe of
              there
              > arms???
              > But no because these two are supposed to be clever because they are
              > more advanced they can beat a gorilla gaurd ( not in the real
              world ).
              > So timesthat by the fact they carry rifles , does it make sence to
              > hide in a tree and jump out on a gorilla gaurd ????
              > Doesn't make much sense to me!!!
              > Mark
              > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@ wrote:
              > >
              > > If my computer wasn't such a piece of junk, I'd DL and read your
              > story... I
              > > like the fact that you have the fugitives doing things a bit
              more
              > > "realistically" under their circumstances. .. In other words,
              while
              > I'm sure normally
              > > Virdon, and Galen especially, would want to "talk it out" they
              did
              > take an
              > > action which would maybe be better in their sitaution... The same
              > way it would
              > > have been better on the TV show if they actually kicked humans
              > asses rather than
              > > K.O.ing an armed Gorilla! That's something I don't like: They
              > could beat the
              > > crap out of a Gorilla who could have pulled the trigger before
              > they even
              > > took a swing, but they couldn't manage to escape from humans
              armed
              > with
              > > machettes (even though the astronauts could have at least grabbed
              a
              > stick to ward off
              > > any attempted slashings).. .
              > >
              > >
              > > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
              > >
              ( http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121788 3258x1201191827/ aol?
              > redir=http://www.dell. com/co
              > > ntent/products/ features. aspx/laptops_ great_deals& #63;c=us% 26cs=19%
              > 26l=en%26s=d
              > > hs%26&#126;ck= anavml)
              > >
              >



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              Group: potadg Message: 51012 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: AN APE WEDDING.
              .html
              .html
              "Feel good television"... But I still like the TV series a lot!
               
              In a message dated 2/1/09 5:25:47 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
              The TV Show was just so....Swiss Family Robinson...know what I mean?
               


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              Group: potadg Message: 51013 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: ambush the gorilla;ape wedding pic
              .html
              .html
              *** Agreed, I would have much preferred if the astronauts had some type of (crude) weapon and or sneal attack tactics when taking on a gorilla... At least in ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW, they are armed with a club when they first go to resue Galen, and in THE GLADIATORS, when they go to attack the night guard watching the horses, they take a rock with them for head bashing... But their escape from the garrison in UP ABOVE THE WORLD... what a bunch of crap!
               
               
               
              In a message dated 2/1/09 7:05:23 PM Central Standard Time, wayne.sylvester@... writes:
              GORILLA AMBUSH SCENE;again, my idea of galen shouting for help, has burke creeps up behind Austus, gorilla guard...zonks him on the head...knocks him out...then free virdon!
               


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              Group: potadg Message: 51014 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
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              *** What is this footage you have?Just different takes of footage from the episode or what? Also, have you ever considered having it converted to DVD? ***
               
               
              In a message dated 2/1/09 7:09:57 PM Central Standard Time, wayne.sylvester@... writes:
              I have 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original ep]bought it in china./TV fair event.
               


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              Group: potadg Message: 51015 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
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              In a message dated 2/1/09 8:16:54 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
              No glyphs on his riding jacket!
              *** It depends on which riding jacket... The one in PLANET is plain, but there's that cool one from BENEATH which is all decked out with hieroglyphics. ***
               


              And do you really think red hair and blue eyes cost more?
              *** Zaius didn't have blue eyes, and you're right, the cost of paint for eyes wouldn't have made a difference... T may or may not have a point regarding the faux hair though, there could be a price difference depending on the materials they'd use... I'd guess there wouldn't be a difference though because I'm sure fake hair would run the same price regardless of color... It's not like the films where they used real Yak hair for the orangs... ***


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              Group: potadg Message: 51016 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: Re: ambush the gorilla;ape wedding pic
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              *** That should have read SNEAK attack ***
               
               
              In a message dated 2/1/09 10:08:28 PM Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
              sneal
               


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              Group: potadg Message: 51017 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/1/2009
              Subject: latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
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              Or is it already on DVD?!?!?!

              Come on - I'm dying here! :)

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
              >
              >
              > *** What is this footage you have?Just different takes of footage
              from the
              > episode or what? Also, have you ever considered having it converted
              to DVD? ***
              >
              >
              > In a message dated 2/1/09 7:09:57 PM Central Standard Time,
              > wayne.sylvester@... writes:
              >
              > I have 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original
              ep]bought
              > it in china./TV fair event.
              >
              >
              >
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              Group: potadg Message: 51018 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/2/2009
              Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
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              I think Fox thinks it does.
               
               
              In a message dated 2/1/2009 8:17:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
              And do you really think red hair and blue eyes cost more?


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              Group: potadg Message: 51019 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 2/2/2009
              Subject: Re: Speaking of head......
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              I wonder which cost more.
              That yak hair or the Asian hair
              they used for the chimps?
               
               
              In a message dated 2/1/2009 10:17:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
              It's not like the films where they used real Yak hair for the orangs... ***


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              Group: potadg Message: 51020 From: nlmoxham Date: 2/2/2009
              Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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              I was putting together some stuff on the costume tests for the first
              two movies. The shots of Robert Lombardo, Joe Wong and the ape/human
              hybrid are stills from 'Behind POTA'. Nothing new, just thought I'd
              share them.
              http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Costume%20test%
              20pictures/
              But now you mention it, I was surprised to notice I had two different
              shots of the hybrid child; the one labelled 'Hybrid costume' - I have
              no idea where I got this, any suggestions where I might get a better
              version would be welcomed - is tagged 'POTA Revisited', from the
              early stages of 'Beneath'. The shots from 'Behind' are
              tagged 'Beneath POTA', so clearly are from some later time. Can
              anyone interpret the clapboard on the picture called '800px-
              Hybrid_makeup3' - do any of these numbers represent a date?

              Thanks!

              --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
              <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
              >
              > Moxy
              >
              > These are GREAT!
              >
              > Where did you get 'em?
              >
              > Michael
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
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              owner@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf Of Yahoo! Groups Notification
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              > You can access the file at the URL:
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              Group: potadg Message: 51021 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
              Subject: Re: designer t-shirts of galen and urko;PIC 1
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              Attachments :
                here are my 1999 designer t-shirts of Galen and urko[display items]
                WAYNE

                --- On Mon, 2/2/09, nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
                From: nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 8:30 AM

                I was putting together some stuff on the costume tests for the first
                two movies. The shots of Robert Lombardo, Joe Wong and the ape/human
                hybrid are stills from 'Behind POTA'. Nothing new, just thought I'd
                share them.
                http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ PotaDG/files/ Costume%20test%
                20pictures/
                But now you mention it, I was surprised to notice I had two different
                shots of the hybrid child; the one labelled 'Hybrid costume' - I have
                no idea where I got this, any suggestions where I might get a better
                version would be welcomed - is tagged 'POTA Revisited', from the
                early stages of 'Beneath'. The shots from 'Behind' are
                tagged 'Beneath POTA', so clearly are from some later time. Can
                anyone interpret the clapboard on the picture called '800px-
                Hybrid_makeup3' - do any of these numbers represent a date?

                Thanks!

                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
                <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
                >
                > Moxy
                >
                > These are GREAT!
                >
                > Where did you get 'em?
                >
                > Michael
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: PotaDG-owner@ yahoogroups. com [PotaDG-
                owner@yahoogroups. com] On
                > Behalf Of Yahoo! Groups Notification
                > Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:14 PM
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                > Hello,
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                > This email message is a notification to let you know that
                > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of your PotaDG
                > group.
                >
                > File : /Costume test pictures/makeupgrou p.jpg
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                > Description :
                >
                > You can access the file at the URL:
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                20pictures/makeupg
                > roup.jpg
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                Group: potadg Message: 51022 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
                Subject: designer t-shirt;urko 1999;pic 2
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                Attachments :
                  wayne

                  --- On Mon, 2/2/09, nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
                  From: nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
                  Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 8:30 AM

                  I was putting together some stuff on the costume tests for the first
                  two movies. The shots of Robert Lombardo, Joe Wong and the ape/human
                  hybrid are stills from 'Behind POTA'. Nothing new, just thought I'd
                  share them.
                  http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ PotaDG/files/ Costume%20test%
                  20pictures/
                  But now you mention it, I was surprised to notice I had two different
                  shots of the hybrid child; the one labelled 'Hybrid costume' - I have
                  no idea where I got this, any suggestions where I might get a better
                  version would be welcomed - is tagged 'POTA Revisited', from the
                  early stages of 'Beneath'. The shots from 'Behind' are
                  tagged 'Beneath POTA', so clearly are from some later time. Can
                  anyone interpret the clapboard on the picture called '800px-
                  Hybrid_makeup3' - do any of these numbers represent a date?

                  Thanks!

                  --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
                  <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Moxy
                  >
                  > These are GREAT!
                  >
                  > Where did you get 'em?
                  >
                  > Michael
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: PotaDG-owner@ yahoogroups. com [PotaDG-
                  owner@yahoogroups. com] On
                  > Behalf Of Yahoo! Groups Notification
                  > Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:14 PM
                  > To: PotaDG-owner@ yahoogroups. com
                  > Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                  >
                  >
                  > Hello,
                  >
                  > This email message is a notification to let you know that
                  > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of your PotaDG
                  > group.
                  >
                  > File : /Costume test pictures/makeupgrou p.jpg
                  > Uploaded by : nlmoxham <neilmoxham@ ...>
                  > Description :
                  >
                  > You can access the file at the URL:
                  > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PotaDG/ files/Costume% 20test%
                  20pictures/makeupg
                  > roup.jpg
                  >
                  > Your group is currently configured to send you email
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                  > Regards,
                  >
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                  >
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                  Group: potadg Message: 51023 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
                  Subject: display item;designer t-shirt;GALEN;PIC 1;Wayne
                  .html
                  Attachments :

                    wayne
                    --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
                    From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re:latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 5:01 AM

                    Or is it already on DVD?!?!?!

                    Come on - I'm dying here! :)

                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@.. . wrote:
                    >
                    >
                    > *** What is this footage you have?Just different takes of footage
                    from the
                    > episode or what? Also, have you ever considered having it converted
                    to DVD? ***
                    >
                    >
                    > In a message dated 2/1/09 7:09:57 PM Central Standard Time,
                    > wayne.sylvester@ ... writes:
                    >
                    > I have 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original
                    ep]bought
                    > it in china./TV fair event.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
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                    Group: potadg Message: 51024 From: Wayne Sylvester Date: 2/2/2009
                    Subject: hello to all my new ape-chat friends;lPIC attached
                    .html
                    Attachments :
                      Wayne

                      --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
                      From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
                      Subject: [PotaDG] Re:latest framed collage of councillor zaius;Wayne
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 5:01 AM

                      Or is it already on DVD?!?!?!

                      Come on - I'm dying here! :)

                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@.. . wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      > *** What is this footage you have?Just different takes of footage
                      from the
                      > episode or what? Also, have you ever considered having it converted
                      to DVD? ***
                      >
                      >
                      > In a message dated 2/1/09 7:09:57 PM Central Standard Time,
                      > wayne.sylvester@ ... writes:
                      >
                      > I have 8 minutes of footage from roddy in TYRANT[cut from original
                      ep]bought
                      > it in china./TV fair event.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > ************ **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.
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                      Group: potadg Message: 51025 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/2/2009
                      Subject: Re: designer t-shirt;urko 1999;pic 2
                      .html
                      Very cool, Wayne.  I love the green background on the t-shirts, and the artwork is fantastic.

                      This is my t-shirt of General Ursus.  Haven't worn it yet.  Waiting for a nice hot day where I won't have to wear a sweater so I could show him off.

                      http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/Zira006.jpg

                      Jessica.

                      On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Wayne Sylvester < wayne.sylvester@...> wrote:

                      wayne

                      --- On Mon, 2/2/09, nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
                      From: nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
                      Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 8:30 AM

                      I was putting together some stuff on the costume tests for the first
                      two movies. The shots of Robert Lombardo, Joe Wong and the ape/human
                      hybrid are stills from 'Behind POTA'. Nothing new, just thought I'd
                      share them.
                      http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ PotaDG/files/ Costume%20test%
                      20pictures/
                      But now you mention it, I was surprised to notice I had two different
                      shots of the hybrid child; the one labelled 'Hybrid costume' - I have
                      no idea where I got this, any suggestions where I might get a better
                      version would be welcomed - is tagged 'POTA Revisited', from the
                      early stages of 'Beneath'. The shots from 'Behind' are
                      tagged 'Beneath POTA', so clearly are from some later time. Can
                      anyone interpret the clapboard on the picture called '800px-
                      Hybrid_makeup3' - do any of these numbers represent a date?

                      Thanks!

                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
                      <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Moxy
                      >
                      > These are GREAT!
                      >
                      > Where did you get 'em?
                      >
                      > Michael
                      >
                      > -----Original Message-----
                      > From: PotaDG-owner@ yahoogroups. com [PotaDG-
                      owner@yahoogroups. com] On
                      > Behalf Of Yahoo! Groups Notification
                      > Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:14 PM
                      > To: PotaDG-owner@ yahoogroups. com
                      > Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                      >
                      >
                      > Hello,
                      >
                      > This email message is a notification to let you know that
                      > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of your PotaDG
                      > group.
                      >
                      > File : /Costume test pictures/makeupgrou p.jpg
                      > Uploaded by : nlmoxham <neilmoxham@ ...>
                      > Description :
                      >
                      > You can access the file at the URL:
                      > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PotaDG/ files/Costume% 20test%
                      20pictures/makeupg
                      > roup.jpg
                      >
                      > Your group is currently configured to send you email
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                      > Regards,
                      >
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