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Group: potadg Message: 54526 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
Group: potadg Message: 54527 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: POTA meets "Antique Roadshow"
Group: potadg Message: 54528 From: Graham Hill Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
Group: potadg Message: 54529 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Curtis Magazine #8
Group: potadg Message: 54530 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Curtis Magazine #8
Group: potadg Message: 54531 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 54532 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
Group: potadg Message: 54533 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Curtis Magazine #8
Group: potadg Message: 54534 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
Group: potadg Message: 54535 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: maybe this guy knows where Milo is!?
Group: potadg Message: 54536 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
Group: potadg Message: 54537 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Leuric died
Group: potadg Message: 54538 From: rassmguy Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
Group: potadg Message: 54539 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
Group: potadg Message: 54540 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
Group: potadg Message: 54541 From: rassmguy Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
Group: potadg Message: 54542 From: rassmguy Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
Group: potadg Message: 54543 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Vintage magazine scans
Group: potadg Message: 54544 From: nlmoxham Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
Group: potadg Message: 54545 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
Group: potadg Message: 54546 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Bolton
Group: potadg Message: 54547 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: American Cinematographer article
Group: potadg Message: 54548 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 54549 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: James Naughton has a grandchild !
Group: potadg Message: 54550 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Re: American Cinematographer article
Group: potadg Message: 54551 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
Group: potadg Message: 54552 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54553 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54554 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54555 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54556 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54557 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54558 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54559 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54560 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54561 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54562 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54563 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54564 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54565 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54566 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54567 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54568 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54569 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54570 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/1/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54571 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54572 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: OT: "Predators" update
Group: potadg Message: 54573 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54574 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54575 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Bubbles
Group: potadg Message: 54576 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54577 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54578 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54579 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54580 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54581 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54582 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: POTA Live Show
Group: potadg Message: 54583 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54584 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54585 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54586 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54587 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54588 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54589 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Live Show
Group: potadg Message: 54590 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54591 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54592 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Hot off the apevine!!
Group: potadg Message: 54593 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Live Show
Group: potadg Message: 54594 From: John Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54595 From: John Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54596 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
Group: potadg Message: 54597 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54598 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
Group: potadg Message: 54599 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
Group: potadg Message: 54600 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3896
Group: potadg Message: 54601 From: Jeff Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54602 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54603 From: Jeff Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
Group: potadg Message: 54604 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 54605 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54606 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
Group: potadg Message: 54607 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54608 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54609 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: More French hardcover illustrations added.
Group: potadg Message: 54610 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54611 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54612 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54613 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54614 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
Group: potadg Message: 54615 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54616 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
Group: potadg Message: 54617 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 7/2/2009
Subject: Re: More French hardcover illustrations added.
Group: potadg Message: 54618 From: rassmguy Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54619 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54620 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54621 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54622 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54623 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54624 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
Group: potadg Message: 54625 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/3/2009
Subject: Re: More French hardcover illustrations added.



Group: potadg Message: 54526 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
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Oh!  OK…I thought it was like when I send a page to someone and Neil says “You do know that’s the first of 6 drafts don’t you?”  J

So it’s just ME that’s sloppy?  Thanks Hilly – you really have cheered me up.  At least the Ashes will cheer me up!

 

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 1:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Pics

 

The "deleted" pages were probably there because the UK were printing some of the strips first, ahead of the US , having launched the weekly so close to the start of the BW US mag (though technically still seen as reprints)

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Group: potadg Message: 54527 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: POTA meets "Antique Roadshow"
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Ha!

 

Awesome piece.

 

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 5:33 AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] POTA meets "Antique Roadshow"

 

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Group: potadg Message: 54528 From: Graham Hill Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
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ahh... two weeks to go and already with the Ashes digs !! :)

Now come on Michael, as the "official Pom" of the group, you know I should be the first one to mention them !

(...and I'd never acuse you of Sloppiness... you've never missed of the last page of a comic like the Marvel UK crew... the sad thing was no one really noticed:()

Best,Graham.

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Oh! OK.I thought it was like when I send a page to someone and Neil says
> "You do know that's the first of 6 drafts don't you?" :-)
>
> So it's just ME that's sloppy? Thanks Hilly - you really have cheered me
> up. At least the Ashes will cheer me up!
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Graham Hill
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 1:52 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Pics
>
>
>
> The "deleted" pages were probably there because the UK were printing some of
> the strips first, ahead of the US, having launched the weekly so close to
> the start of the BW US mag (though technically still seen as reprints)
>
> .
>
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> =54522/stime=1246204347/nc1=3848627/nc2=3858795/nc3=5741392>
>

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Group: potadg Message: 54529 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Curtis Magazine #8
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 live up the street from the old Curtis Publishing building? It's located in Philly a block away from Indepenence Hall. They have a sign on the wall saying that this building was Curtis Publishing and they produced Saturday Evening Journal etc. No mention of Planet of the Apes (those lousy human bastards).
 
If you watch the movie Unbreakable. There is a scene filmed inside the Curtis Building. It's a restaurant scene with Bruce Willis and his wife. There is a wild looking mural on the wall.  
 
I'll take a photo of the builing.

--- On Sat, 6/27/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Curtis Magazine #8
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 7:46 PM

Does anyone know the date that POTA Curtis Magazine #8 was released in the USA ?

 

Also, did release the "March" issue in February etc?

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 9:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics [1 Attachment]

 

[ Attachment(s) from Neil Foster included below]


Here's the whole thing:

 

 

 

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics

No actually it isn't, the fact that it's in colour makes that clear. It was actually from an advert for the then upcoming B&W mag which ran in many of the colour Marvel comics that were around at that time.

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics

That from the letter page from the b/w issues

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2009 11:01 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics

 

Neil

 

Where's that home page pic from?

 

There was a weird one yesterday too…../ div>

 

Michael

 


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Group: potadg Message: 54530 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Curtis Magazine #8
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Cool - please do!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:
>
> Â live up the street from the old Curtis Publishing building? It's located in Philly a block away from Indepenence Hall. They have a sign on the wall saying that this building was Curtis Publishing and they produced Saturday Evening Journal etc. No mention of Planet of the Apes (those lousy human bastards).
> Â
> If you watch the movie Unbreakable. There is a scene filmed inside the Curtis Building. It's a restaurant scene with Bruce Willis and his wife. There is a wild looking mural on the wall. Â
> Â
> I'll take a photo of the builing.
>
> --- On Sat, 6/27/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Curtis Magazine #8
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 7:46 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone know the date that POTA Curtis Magazine #8 was released in the USA ?
> Â
> Also, did release the “March” issue in February etc?
>
> Michael
> Â
>
>
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 9:14 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics [1 Attachment]
> Â
>
>
>
> [Attachment(s) from Neil Foster included below]
>
>
>
>
> Here's the whole thing:
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Â
>
> Â
> Neil T. Foster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics
>
>
> No actually it isn't, the fact that it's in colour makes that clear. It was actually from an advert for the then upcoming B&W mag which ran in many of the colour Marvel comics that were around at that time.
>
> Â
> Neil T. Foster
> Â
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:40 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics
>
>
> That from the letter page from the b/w issues
>
> Â
>
> Â
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2009 11:01 am
> Subject: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
> Neil
>
> Â
>
> Where’s that home page pic from?
>
> Â
>
> There was a weird one yesterday too…../ div>
>
> Â
>
> Michael
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Save energy, paper and money -- get the Green Toolbar.
>
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Group: potadg Message: 54531 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2009
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
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Group: potadg Message: 54532 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
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Jess.
      Where do I go to get the liquid latex, do I go to find this liquid latex at a
art store? I know where I can find some wig at.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett



T, I do know how to tie wigs now!  I spent 40 hours on my hairline alone.  Didn't you think it was a vast improvement from the first time I was under the goo?  It's also better to glue down your own sideburns, too with human hair and liquid latex.  Better (and cheaper) than what you can find out there!!!
 
 
Jess.
 


 
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:55 AM, haydon.mark < markhaydon3@ aol.com> wrote:


Thanks for reply, one thing that would bring costs down is if they had a u.k outlet.
So that you dont have those expensive postage costs.
And if you spend over a certain amount here in the u.k when it comes over we then have to pay custom's tax before they release it to you making it even more expensive.
Surly they could even do a line of cheaper ammo belts and replica rifles.
Hope that Apemania do take note because what they do is great stuff but costs keep us mear mortals from being able to afford there great range.
Mark :(

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hey Mark
>
>
>
> You shouldn't get in the shit for speaking what you feel.
>
>
>
> This is ON topic, about apes, not political and it's just your view.
>
>
>
> I don't have an opinion. I guess I'd pay top dollar for APEMANIA stuff if I
> had the coin, and not having the coin I'm happy to go without.
>
>
>
> And I must admit I think Apemania really don't care if they don't sell -
> it's done to order. I seem to recall Brian telling me he has far too many
> top end - high paying collectors to look after to ever really have to bother
> lowering the goal.
>
>
>
> Anyway I'll see what he has to say for you..I think he DID do an economy
> range of masks..
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of
> haydon.mark
> Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 10:31 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm glad that it's not just me that thinks apemania take the piss with there
> prices.
> But it leads on to the subject which has been talked about , the last couple
> of weeks.
> Fans of pota are getting smaller and no new fans are getting into it.
> If they where there would be other company's getting there hands on the
> rights to manufacture masks and costumes.
> But on a personel note would'nt it pay to drop prices and get more clients.
> I bet they dont sell that many???
> Most people want to dress-up or complete a outfit , but not at the expense
> of having to use there life savings or get a second morgage out for the
> privalage of owning these items.
> How can they justify the price of these when if you shop around you could
> possible get original screne worn for the same prices???
> I bet i get into trouble for saying this but hell its the truth and i think
> most of us most be thinking this.
> And if anyone from apemania is or does read this think about it ( sell more
> , bring the prices down).
> They never even reduced during this time when plenty of people have lost
> jobs, banks gone out of business and house priced slashed????
> Mark :)
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com, "Neil

> Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > This seems to be another problem. Unless one decides to go the do it
> > yourself route, such as yourself, with all the expense and time
> > consuming stuff and you really want to look authentic as an Ape you have
> > to buy the stuff from Apemania. And like you say, what everyday normal
> > fan can afford those prices!
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com > com] On Behalf
> > Of jessica rotich
> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:09 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I couldn't start a local "chapter" because then the troupe would have to
> > purchase everything Apemania if we fly under their flag. Have you
> > looked at their price$ lately? What rich monkey can afford that
> > nowadays? There's got to be other apes out here. Has to be.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo.
> > <mailto:apefan23@> com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > maybe you could talk to Brian at Apemania and start a local
> > "chapter"......!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ <mailto:jessicarotich@>
> > gmail.com>
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com> com

> >
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:03:24 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael, it IS lonely because die hard fans are hard to come by.
> > Imagine my excitement when I discovered the Yahoo groups on the
> > internet!! WOW! There are OTHERS like me out there. It's just that I
> > need to find a group of apes to go to town with. Maybe I'll find some
> > at Wondercon.
> >
> > I just need some apes who will commit to being in full ape regalia and
> > doing fun things with me...I want to go to a basketball game in full ape
> > gear, get front row seats, be on TV. I need apes in my area who will be
> > brave enough to do this with me. I can't do it by myself. I need about
> > 3 or 4 adult apes who are brave enough. I haven't found them yet, but I
> > will. And when I find them, you will see us in the news. Why do I have
> > to wait for a con? Why can't we just pick a date and go to town?
> >
> > The other thing I've been thinking about is YouTube...I need a group of
> > apes and we'll do something silly...like cook a meal from scratch and
> > YouTube it...SOMETHING goofy and fun, but something to remember.
> >
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@
> > bigpond.com <mailto:sallywhitty@> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > WOW!
> >
> >
> >
> > Keep recruiting!! !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com> > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com> ] On

> > Behalf Of jessica rotich
> > Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 9:18 AM
> >
> >
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com>
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > They are into the gorillas. My 10 year old loves the Horse Race and Up
> > Above the World So High.
> >
> > Ashton, who is almost 5 LOVES Planet of the Apes. He will watch the
> > original movie with me, and he also loves the Horse Race and the
> > Deception. He's always trying to make himself a bandolier. He wanted
> > to know where his mask was the last time we went out in ape gear.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com
> > <mailto:ntfoster@> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jess, do your boys show any interest in Planet of the Apes at all? Or
> > are they too young at the moment?
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com> ] On
> > Behalf Of jessica rotich
> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:03 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com>
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> > I still haven't found anybody to go ape with in my neck of the woods!
> > It gets more bleak every time I go out searching. It's a very lonesome
> > thing when I go out in ape regalia. It really is, and the last one was
> > a gut puncher. I feel like I'm the only ape in town.
> >
> > Next Wondercon I will be flanked by my two sons also in full ape regalia
> > so I won't be by my lonesome self. Are they as die-hard as me? I don't
> > think so, and that to me is really really really sad.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com
> > <mailto:ntfoster@> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the best way to go about recruiting new younger fans to Planet
> > of the Apes would have to be a popular new movie, obviously.
> >
> > Unfortunately to be popular it would have to appeal to today's
> > youngsters, something that the 'old' movies don't seem to be doing. So
> > it would have to be taken in a completely new direction severing all
> > ties with the past films, something like they seem to be trying with the
> > proposed new Caesar movie if the rumours are to be believed.
> >
> >
> >
> > The only problem then will be that it will alienate most of us older
> > fans, a lot of whom would howl bloody blue murder if the direction it
> > takes is different from what we are all familiar and comfortable with,
> > as can be witnessed by reading many of the responses to the initial
> > stories of said proposed new Caesar movie. It seems that not many die
> > hard fans were very impressed when they heard about it! So it's a bit of
> > a catch 22 situation isn't it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com> ] On
> > Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:54 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroup s.com> com> ;
> > pota@yahoogroups. com <mailto:pota@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups. com> com>
> > Subject: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> > Its been a sad day for me having celebrities pass away that were always
> > a part of my life.
> >
> >
> >
> > It reminded me again about how much we have to do to keep this POTA
> > legacy going. Almost everyone involved in POTA has now passed on.
> >
> >
> >
> > What can we do to keep the interest going for another generation ?
> >
> >
> >
> > It also reminds me that we are all aging personally and paying constant
> > tribute to a film over 40 years old. Time keeps ticking by and its a
> > shame that the past continues to wither away. The past keeps getting
> > swept under the rug. Everybody forgets and new children are born that
> > have no idea of the past.
> >
> >
> >
> > How are we going to get a 10 year old child today to have any interest
> > in any movies, music, nostalgia from the past as they are bombarded with
> > more and more products currently?
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the #1 answer is to continously give POTA some attention in the
> > media.
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously a new movie is the best way, but until that happens I wonder
> > what are the next best choices? New products, new fanzines, Wikia
> > site, archiving POTA data and photos. Obviously it all helps - but who
> > are these products aimed at ? Its a new generation of fans we have to
> > attract!
> >
> >
> >
> > I think we are all on the right track but POTA fandom is shrinking
> > quickly and we really need to jump into this more before even we are
> > gone !
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts ?
> >
>


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Group: potadg Message: 54533 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA Curtis Magazine #8
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I'll do it this wknd and post it on Tuesday. Curtis Publishing supposedly has a museum inside. I've got my fingers crossed that they have some type of POTA reference. I'll check it out and take pix of anything POTA related.


From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:00:26 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA Curtis Magazine #8

Cool - please do!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Chris Hight <snickertown@ ...> wrote:
>
>  live up the street from the old Curtis Publishing building? It's located in Philly a block away from Indepenence Hall. They have a sign on the wall saying that this building was Curtis Publishing and they produced Saturday Evening Journal etc. No mention of Planet of the Apes (those lousy human bastards).
>  
> If you watch the movie Unbreakable. There is a scene filmed inside the Curtis Building. It's a restaurant scene with Bruce Willis and his wife. There is a wild looking mural on the wall.  
>  
> I'll take a photo of the builing.
>
> --- On Sat, 6/27/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ ...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Curtis Magazine #8
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 7:46 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone know the date that POTA Curtis Magazine #8 was released in the USA ?
>  
> Also, did release the "March" issue in February etc?
>
> Michael
>  
>
>
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 9:14 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics [1 Attachment]
>  
>
>
>
> [Attachment( s) from Neil Foster included below]
>
>
>
>
> Here's the whole thing:
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
>  
> Neil T. Foster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics
>
>
> No actually it isn't, the fact that it's in colour makes that clear. It was actually from an advert for the then upcoming B&W mag which ran in many of the colour Marvel comics that were around at that time.
>
>  
> Neil T. Foster
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:40 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics
>
>
> That from the letter page from the b/w issues
>
>  
>
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2009 11:01 am
> Subject: [PotaDG] Home Page Pics
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> Neil
>
>  
>
> Where's that home page pic from?
>
>  
>
> There was a weird one yesterday too…../ div>
>
>  
>
> Michael
>
>  
>
>
>
> Save energy, paper and money -- get the Green Toolbar.
>


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Group: potadg Message: 54534 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
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Kevin,

I ordered the liquid latex at Alcone Company in New York ( http://www.alconeco.com/ ) because I also got the rubber mask grease there but I think you can order it from any FX/makeup site. You can probably find liquid latex at an art store too. It's pretty stinky, so work in a well ventilated place.

Jess.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 7:57 PM, < PofTAfan@...> wrote:


Jess.
Where do I go to get the liquid latex, do I go to find this liquid latex at a
art store? I know where I can find some wig at.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett



T, I do know how to tie wigs now! I spent 40 hours on my hairline alone. Didn't you think it was a vast improvement from the first time I was under the goo? It's also better to glue down your own sideburns, too with human hair and liquid latex. Better (and cheaper) than what you can find out there!!!
Jess.


On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:55 AM, haydon.mark <markhaydon3@...> wrote:


Thanks for reply, one thing that would bring costs down is if they had a u.k outlet.
So that you dont have those expensive postage costs.
And if you spend over a certain amount here in the u.k when it comes over we then have to pay custom's tax before they release it to you making it even more expensive.
Surly they could even do a line of cheaper ammo belts and replica rifles.
Hope that Apemania do take note because what they do is great stuff but costs keep us mear mortals from being able to afford there great range.
Mark :(

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Mark
>
>
>
> You shouldn't get in the shit for speaking what you feel.
>
>
>
> This is ON topic, about apes, not political and it's just your view.
>
>
>
> I don't have an opinion. I guess I'd pay top dollar for APEMANIA stuff if I
> had the coin, and not having the coin I'm happy to go without.
>
>
>
> And I must admit I think Apemania really don't care if they don't sell -
> it's done to order. I seem to recall Brian telling me he has far too many
> top end - high paying collectors to look after to ever really have to bother
> lowering the goal.
>
>
>
> Anyway I'll see what he has to say for you..I think he DID do an economy
> range of masks..
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> haydon.mark
> Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 10:31 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm glad that it's not just me that thinks apemania take the piss with there
> prices.
> But it leads on to the subject which has been talked about , the last couple
> of weeks.
> Fans of pota are getting smaller and no new fans are getting into it.
> If they where there would be other company's getting there hands on the
> rights to manufacture masks and costumes.
> But on a personel note would'nt it pay to drop prices and get more clients.
> I bet they dont sell that many???
> Most people want to dress-up or complete a outfit , but not at the expense
> of having to use there life savings or get a second morgage out for the
> privalage of owning these items.
> How can they justify the price of these when if you shop around you could
> possible get original screne worn for the same prices???
> I bet i get into trouble for saying this but hell its the truth and i think
> most of us most be thinking this.
> And if anyone from apemania is or does read this think about it ( sell more
> , bring the prices down).
> They never even reduced during this time when plenty of people have lost
> jobs, banks gone out of business and house priced slashed????
> Mark :)
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Neil

> Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > This seems to be another problem. Unless one decides to go the do it
> > yourself route, such as yourself, with all the expense and time
> > consuming stuff and you really want to look authentic as an Ape you have
> > to buy the stuff from Apemania. And like you say, what everyday normal
> > fan can afford those prices!
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com > com] On Behalf
> > Of jessica rotich
> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:09 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I couldn't start a local "chapter" because then the troupe would have to
> > purchase everything Apemania if we fly under their flag. Have you
> > looked at their price$ lately? What rich monkey can afford that
> > nowadays? There's got to be other apes out here. Has to be.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo.
> > <mailto:apefan23@> com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > maybe you could talk to Brian at Apemania and start a local
> > "chapter"......!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ <mailto:jessicarotich@>
> > gmail.com>
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com> com

> >
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:03:24 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael, it IS lonely because die hard fans are hard to come by.
> > Imagine my excitement when I discovered the Yahoo groups on the
> > internet!! WOW! There are OTHERS like me out there. It's just that I
> > need to find a group of apes to go to town with. Maybe I'll find some
> > at Wondercon.
> >
> > I just need some apes who will commit to being in full ape regalia and
> > doing fun things with me...I want to go to a basketball game in full ape
> > gear, get front row seats, be on TV. I need apes in my area who will be
> > brave enough to do this with me. I can't do it by myself. I need about
> > 3 or 4 adult apes who are brave enough. I haven't found them yet, but I
> > will. And when I find them, you will see us in the news. Why do I have
> > to wait for a con? Why can't we just pick a date and go to town?
> >
> > The other thing I've been thinking about is YouTube...I need a group of
> > apes and we'll do something silly...like cook a meal from scratch and
> > YouTube it...SOMETHING goofy and fun, but something to remember.
> >
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@
> > bigpond.com <mailto:sallywhitty@> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > WOW!
> >
> >
> >
> > Keep recruiting!! !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com> > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com> ] On

> > Behalf Of jessica rotich
> > Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 9:18 AM
> >
> >
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > They are into the gorillas. My 10 year old loves the Horse Race and Up
> > Above the World So High.
> >
> > Ashton, who is almost 5 LOVES Planet of the Apes. He will watch the
> > original movie with me, and he also loves the Horse Race and the
> > Deception. He's always trying to make himself a bandolier. He wanted
> > to know where his mask was the last time we went out in ape gear.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com
> > <mailto:ntfoster@> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jess, do your boys show any interest in Planet of the Apes at all? Or
> > are they too young at the moment?
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com> ] On
> > Behalf Of jessica rotich
> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:03 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> > I still haven't found anybody to go ape with in my neck of the woods!
> > It gets more bleak every time I go out searching. It's a very lonesome
> > thing when I go out in ape regalia. It really is, and the last one was
> > a gut puncher. I feel like I'm the only ape in town.
> >
> > Next Wondercon I will be flanked by my two sons also in full ape regalia
> > so I won't be by my lonesome self. Are they as die-hard as me? I don't
> > think so, and that to me is really really really sad.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com
> > <mailto:ntfoster@> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the best way to go about recruiting new younger fans to Planet
> > of the Apes would have to be a popular new movie, obviously.
> >
> > Unfortunately to be popular it would have to appeal to today's
> > youngsters, something that the 'old' movies don't seem to be doing. So
> > it would have to be taken in a completely new direction severing all
> > ties with the past films, something like they seem to be trying with the
> > proposed new Caesar movie if the rumours are to be believed.
> >
> >
> >
> > The only problem then will be that it will alienate most of us older
> > fans, a lot of whom would howl bloody blue murder if the direction it
> > takes is different from what we are all familiar and comfortable with,
> > as can be witnessed by reading many of the responses to the initial
> > stories of said proposed new Caesar movie. It seems that not many die
> > hard fans were very impressed when they heard about it! So it's a bit of
> > a catch 22 situation isn't it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com> ] On
> > Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:54 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com> ;
> > pota@yahoogroups. com <mailto:pota@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> > Subject: [PotaDG] POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
> >
> > Its been a sad day for me having celebrities pass away that were always
> > a part of my life.
> >
> >
> >
> > It reminded me again about how much we have to do to keep this POTA
> > legacy going. Almost everyone involved in POTA has now passed on.
> >
> >
> >
> > What can we do to keep the interest going for another generation ?
> >
> >
> >
> > It also reminds me that we are all aging personally and paying constant
> > tribute to a film over 40 years old. Time keeps ticking by and its a
> > shame that the past continues to wither away. The past keeps getting
> > swept under the rug. Everybody forgets and new children are born that
> > have no idea of the past.
> >
> >
> >
> > How are we going to get a 10 year old child today to have any interest
> > in any movies, music, nostalgia from the past as they are bombarded with
> > more and more products currently?
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the #1 answer is to continously give POTA some attention in the
> > media.
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously a new movie is the best way, but until that happens I wonder
> > what are the next best choices? New products, new fanzines, Wikia
> > site, archiving POTA data and photos. Obviously it all helps - but who
> > are these products aimed at ? Its a new generation of fans we have to
> > attract!
> >
> >
> >
> > I think we are all on the right track but POTA fandom is shrinking
> > quickly and we really need to jump into this more before even we are
> > gone !
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts ?
> >
>




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Group: potadg Message: 54535 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: maybe this guy knows where Milo is!?
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'The Wauchula Woods Accord' stems from writer Charles Siebert's chance encounter with Roger, the chimpanzee

by Karen R. Long/Plain Dealer Book Editor
Monday June 29, 2009, 9:56 AM

Scribner, 208 pp., $25
Back in the 1980s, the U.S. government overbred captive chimpanzees in the frenzied, but mistaken, expectation that these genetically close primates would become lab surrogates to test a human vaccine against HIV.

Today, there are roughly 3,000 extraneous chimps in the United States, often, as writer Charles Siebert describes them, as complete evolutionary anomalies, "a chimpanzee with a name and yet no recollection of a tree."

Moreover, those cute chimps cavorting in Super Bowl commercials or lending verisimilitude to "Planet of the Apes" work only as juveniles.

That's because chimpanzees, who are five times stronger than humans at maturity, can't be managed safely after age 5 or 6. Their remaining 50 or 60 years are spent languishing in cages, roadside attractions, private homes or sanctuaries.

The consequences of misjudging their wildness can be horrific -- witness the woman lying in the Cleveland Clinic now after her face was torn apart in February by 14-year-old Travis, a pet whose Connecticut owner served him wine in long-stemmed glasses.

Siebert, interested in the fate of these creatures, began knocking about the country looking for old stars of film and screen. He tells us what he found in "The Wauchula Woods Accord," a new book that makes fascinating, thought-provoking and, at times, distressing reading.

In it, Siebert describes Roger, a castrated, hazel-eyed 28-year-old chimp retired from the Ringling Bros. "Orchestra," in which he played cello for 10 years.

"The moment Roger saw me .¤.¤. he seemed utterly convinced that we already knew each other. Actually stood and applauded. Excited but not overly fawning applause. Three loud, slow claps of his long leathery hands. As though he'd somehow been expecting me all along. As though to say, 'Oh you. Finally. Where have you been?' "

The caretakers noticed this vivid, peculiar reaction, too. Siebert secured permission to stay a week on the grounds of the Center for Great Apes, on the outskirts of Wauchula, Fla. His beautifully-written book is framed by an hour-by-hour account of his final night in the center, sitting up with Roger, staring across their private divide, trying to puzzle out their meaning to each other.

In between these diarylike entries are ethical, scientific and historical digressions limning the troubled boundary between humans and sentient animals, mostly primates, but also elephants, dolphins, even a giant Pacific octopus.

Siebert, 54, skates farther out than most people onto the ice of nonverbal, interspecies empathy, but his book will thrill all those zoo visitors made queasy by what the author calls "the inescapable, multisided sadness" between captor and captive.

Not as exacting as philosopher Peter Singer, nor as comprehensive as Jane Goodall, Siebert's book nevertheless belongs on a shelf near theirs. He rewards us in the final pages with a satisfying insight into what provoked Roger's reaction to him.

Siebert lets us see that Roger and "and all the other retirees have, like us, minds enough to lose." Their potential for restoration rests in the paradox of humans becoming, as Siebert puts it, better animals.


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Group: potadg Message: 54536 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: POTA and Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett
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Yes Jess.
Keeps getting better all the time.
 
In a message dated 6/28/2009 11:44:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
Didn't you think it was a vast improvement
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Group: potadg Message: 54537 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Leuric died
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Frank Aletter who played Leuric in episode 1 in POTATV
has died.  I don't know who he was, or played, but he also
played Major Stoner, no really, on the TV show M*A*S*H,
another character I don't know. Just on this list that makes
four this year.  Montalban, Garland, Whitmore and Aletter.
 
Anyone remember him? Anyone?  Bueller?
 
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Group: potadg Message: 54538 From: rassmguy Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
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He was actually in the final episode, not the pilot. Leuric was the character who built the glider.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
> Frank Aletter who played Leuric in episode 1 in POTATV
> has died. I don't know who he was, or played, but he also
> played Major Stoner, no really, on the TV show M*A*S*H,
> another character I don't know. Just on this list that makes
> four this year. Montalban, Garland, Whitmore and Aletter.
>
> Anyone remember him? Anyone? Bueller?
>
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Group: potadg Message: 54539 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
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  Alas, poor Leuric!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: TZer0@...
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:22 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Leuric died

 
Frank Aletter who played Leuric in episode 1 in POTATV
has died.  I don't know who he was, or played, but he also
played Major Stoner, no really, on the TV show M*A*S*H,
another character I don't know. Just on this list that makes
four this year.  Montalban, Garland, Whitmore and Aletter.
 
Anyone remember him? Anyone?  Bueller?
 

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Group: potadg Message: 54540 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
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Right, he wasn't IN the pilot, he WAS the pilot.

Anthony


On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:31 pm, rassmguy wrote:

> He was actually in the final episode, not the pilot. Leuric was the
> character who built the glider.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>> Frank Aletter who played Leuric in episode 1 in POTATV
>> has died. I don't know who he was, or played, but he also
>> played Major Stoner, no really, on the TV show M*A*S*H,
>> another character I don't know. Just on this list that makes
>> four this year. Montalban, Garland, Whitmore and Aletter.
>>
>> Anyone remember him? Anyone? Bueller?
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Group: potadg Message: 54541 From: rassmguy Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
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I finished rewatching the TV series about two weeks ago, and the scene in which Burke says that, followed by a look of exasperation on Virdon's face, is probably the funniest moment on the series. I burst out laughing every time he says that.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
> Alas, poor Leuric!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TZer0@...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:22 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Leuric died
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank Aletter who played Leuric in episode 1 in POTATV
> has died. I don't know who he was, or played, but he also
> played Major Stoner, no really, on the TV show M*A*S*H,
> another character I don't know. Just on this list that makes
> four this year. Montalban, Garland, Whitmore and Aletter.
>
> Anyone remember him? Anyone? Bueller?
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 54542 From: rassmguy Date: 6/29/2009
Subject: Re: Leuric died
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Ba-da-bum!


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac404@...> wrote:
>
> Right, he wasn't IN the pilot, he WAS the pilot.
>
> Anthony
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:31 pm, rassmguy wrote:
>
> > He was actually in the final episode, not the pilot. Leuric was the
> > character who built the glider.
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@ wrote:
> >> Frank Aletter who played Leuric in episode 1 in POTATV
> >> has died. I don't know who he was, or played, but he also
> >> played Major Stoner, no really, on the TV show M*A*S*H,
> >> another character I don't know. Just on this list that makes
> >> four this year. Montalban, Garland, Whitmore and Aletter.
> >>
> >> Anyone remember him? Anyone? Bueller?
>
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Group: potadg Message: 54543 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Vintage magazine scans
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Thanks to Rory Monteith, scans of an article about Taylor's ship from
Planet of the Apes from Sci-Fi & Fantasy magazine have been added to
the Magazine Articles page.

Also, thanks to Jeff at Skin Tricks, a 1974 article from Read magazine
is now available.

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 54544 From: nlmoxham Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
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That would make sense considering the Brown & Watson annuals only printed TV based comics (unless I'm mistaken), while Marvel only made original or movie-based stories. They must have been separate entities, they surely wouldn't have been that strict unless they had to be.

I found this recently, on the Brown & Watson annuals - all of them, but theres a POTA mention some way down - I'd heard John Bolton's name associated with these before but not Oliver Frey.

http://bearalley.blogspot.com/2008/01/brown-watson-annuals.html"


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I've also got a feeling that the TV show was a different license so
> Marvel had to becareful what they used in the mags from the TV show any
> way
>
> (I think this was mentioned in an interview with Roy Thomas somewhere...
> but for the life of me I don't know where.)
>
> Graham.
>
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Group: potadg Message: 54545 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Re: Home Page Pics
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Hmm…wonder what the colour strip is?

 

Ahh John Bolton – second only to Neil Foster!   J

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Pics

 




That would make sense considering the Brown & Watson annuals only printed TV based comics (unless I'm mistaken), while Marvel only made original or movie-based stories. They must have been separate entities, they surely wouldn't have been that strict unless they had to be.

I found this recently, on the Brown & Watson annuals - all of them, but theres a POTA mention some way down - I'd heard John Bolton's name associated with these before but not Oliver Frey.

http://bearalley. blogspot. com/2008/ 01/brown- watson-annuals..html"

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> I've also got a feeling that the TV show was a different license so
> Marvel had to becareful what they used in the mags from the TV show any
> way
>
> (I think this was mentioned in an interview with Roy Thomas somewhere...
> but for the life of me I don't know where.)
>
> Graham.
>

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Group: potadg Message: 54546 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/30/2009
Subject: Bolton
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    If anything maybe a bit TOO detailed on he ape faces….

     

    But these angles look very freehand and as if they have no reference photos so good for him!

     

    Michael

     

    PS he even got the ANSA logo right!

     

     

    [planet+of+the+apes+c77+bolton.jpg]

     

     

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
    Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:50 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Pics

     




    That would make sense considering the Brown & Watson annuals only printed TV based comics (unless I'm mistaken), while Marvel only made original or movie-based stories. They must have been separate entities, they surely wouldn't have been that strict unless they had to be.

    I found this recently, on the Brown & Watson annuals - all of them, but theres a POTA mention some way down - I'd heard John Bolton's name associated with these before but not Oliver Frey.

    http://bearalley. blogspot. com/2008/ 01/brown- watson-annuals..html"

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:

    >
    >
    >
    > I've also got a feeling that the TV show was a different license so
    > Marvel had to becareful what they used in the mags from the TV show any
    > way
    >
    > (I think this was mentioned in an interview with Roy Thomas somewhere...
    > but for the life of me I don't know where.)
    >
    > Graham.
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 54547 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/30/2009
    Subject: American Cinematographer article
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    Thanks to Rory, I've also added a great article from the April 1968
    issue of AMERICAN CINEMATOGRAPHER to my Magazine Articles page. This
    article covers the technical aspects of the filming of APES. Very
    cool!

    https://pota.goatley.com/

    I'll have more from Rory and a few more scans from Jeff in the next
    few days....

    Hunter
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    Group: potadg Message: 54548 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/30/2009
    Subject: Birthday Reminder
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    Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   Michael Wilson's Birthday
     
    Date:   Wednesday July 1, 2009
    Time:   All Day
    Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
    Notes:   Happy Birthday Michael!
    (scriptwriter: Planet of the Apes (1968))
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 54549 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: James Naughton has a grandchild !
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    FINALLY, AT LONG LAST, JN AND PAM ARE GRANDPARENTS! !!

    Baby came a few weeks early but because of it, now JN and Pam can claim
    3 June kids!

    So glad JN's name will live on in his grandson. Betcha he's now buying
    up mini baseball gear like crazy so he can start playing catch ASAP!

    Congrats to all of them Naughtons!!!

    forwarded from Laura

    http://www.broadway .com/Happy- Talk-South- Pacific-Star- Kelli-O-Hara- Gives
    -Birth-to-a- Baby-Boy/ broadway_ news/5030032
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    Group: potadg Message: 54550 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Re: American Cinematographer article
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    > Thanks to Rory, I've also added a great article from the April 1968
    > issue of AMERICAN CINEMATOGRAPHER to my Magazine Articles page. This
    > article covers the technical aspects of the filming of APES. Very
    > cool!

    > https://pota.goatley.com/

    There was a minor scanning glitch on page 5. Rory sent me a new scan,
    and I've updated the .PDF file. Sorry about that!

    Hunter
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    Group: potadg Message: 54551 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Re: Leuric died
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    I googled the word "leuric" just to see what possible derivation it has. I always wonder how the POTA writers came up with various names for their characters, especially if it is a name currently in use. How might such a name survive the centuries, especially after a nuke war depopulates the world drastically?

    Anyway, it seems that the name LEURIC probably stems from Irish stock, since there was a guy named LEURIC CHARLES COBBE who lived from 1859 to 1897 in County Dublin. However, according to a book by James Parker ["The early history of Oxford, 727-1100"], on page 269, in a chapter called DESCRIPTION OF OXFORD IN DOMESDAY SURVEY, it says that: "... the name Leuric is found very frequently as a tenant in King Eadward's time, and occasionally as an undertenant in William's time." Parker goes on to mention that the name Leuric also had the form "Wluric... written generally Vluric" -- the "V" being pronounced like a "U" or "W" of course.

    I couldn't find any Latin-based names similar at all to "Leuric" and, given the presence of the name in the Domesday Book, we should probably expect it to be of Anglo-Saxon derivation. Of course, if the name Leuric is actually of Irish derivation, then it could be that the persons carrying that name in the Domesday survey were of Irish stock, living in Oxford.

    Just for giggles, I looked in my Liddell & Scott GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON and found this curious word: "leuros, -a, -on" which is derived from Gk. "leios" [related to Latin "levis"], meaning "smooth, level, even; polished."

    Now, I don't know what the writers of "UP ABOVE..." [Arthur Browne Jr. and Shimon Bar-David] were thinking when they came up with the obscure name "Leuric" for their intrepid glider-maker. But you'll recall that in that episode our Fugitives save him from certain disaster by positioning a polished rock that had been formed from a lightning strike so as to focus sunlight on Leuric's glider, destroying it with a fire.

    So... Leuric's glider is destroyed when a "polished" [Gk. "leur-"] glassy-rock sets it afire, that rock being now a polished lens.

    Oh, it's probably just a coincidence, but it wouldn't surprise me if one or both of the co-writers was working in a pun.

    Patrick
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    Group: potadg Message: 54564 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    .html Message
    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustr ated by Jacques Pecnard.
     
    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
     
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 54565 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Fanzine Federation
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    Good idea John

    Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.

    It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow who is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they say other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous, and very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.

    I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote the groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally too.

    Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think the standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I still read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal intended. And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing feedback from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.

    James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's not healthy.

    Michael

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the strength of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines batting for it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where that takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54566 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    Yeah these are great Neil - keep going please!!!!

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback
    > 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustrated by Jacques Pecnard.
    >
    > I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with
    > these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the
    > group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than
    > never!
    >
    > There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload
    > the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Neil T. Foster
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54567 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    .html I'm always interested in seeing different graphic interpretations of Boulle's novel. Please post the remaining illustrations.

    Anthony


    On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:08 pm, Neil Foster wrote:

    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustratedby Jacques Pecnard.
     
    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
     
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Neil T. Foster
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    Group: potadg Message: 54568 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    XD
    Jess.

    On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:


    Good idea John

    Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.

    It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow who is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they say other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous, and very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.

    I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote the groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally too.

    Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think the standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I still read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal intended. And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing feedback from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.

    James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's not healthy.

    Michael

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com , "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the strength of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines batting for it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where that takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 54569 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    Neil, that was way cool! I can't wait to see what else you post!! Thank you for sharing.
    Jess.

    On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Anthony B. McElveen < abmac404@...> wrote:


    I'm always interested in seeing different graphic interpretations of Boulle's novel. Please post the remaining illustrations.


    Anthony


    On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:08 pm, Neil Foster wrote:

    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustra tedby Jacques Pecnard.

    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
    Cheers,
    Neil T. Foster


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    Group: potadg Message: 54570 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/1/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    It will never happen Jess.

    Not with POTA.

    James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go through on his group.

    Some things never change.

    Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a given day) with no evidence and get away with it.

    Pathetic.

    That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    >
    > XD
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > Good idea John
    > >
    > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > >
    > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow who
    > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they say
    > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous, and
    > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > >
    > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote the
    > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally too.
    > >
    > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think the
    > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I still
    > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal intended.
    > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing feedback
    > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > >
    > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's not
    > > healthy.
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the strength
    > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines batting for
    > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where that
    > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54571 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    Jess.

    On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:


    It will never happen Jess.

    Not with POTA.

    James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go through on his group.

    Some things never change.

    Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a given day) with no evidence and get away with it.

    Pathetic.

    That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.

    Michael



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    >
    > XD
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>wrote:

    >
    > >
    > >
    > > Good idea John
    > >
    > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > >
    > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow who
    > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they say
    > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous, and
    > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > >
    > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote the
    > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally too.
    > >
    > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think the
    > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I still
    > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal intended.
    > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing feedback
    > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > >
    > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's not
    > > healthy.
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota% 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>

    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the strength
    > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines batting for
    > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where that
    > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 54572 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: OT: "Predators" update
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     Once again, it's interesting to see where Fox's head is at with their sci-fi reboots ("Emasculation to begin with..."). "Caesar" is still in the ether but here's Robert Rodriguez talking about the free hand Fox is giving him to start fresh with the "Predator" franchise. Rodriguez is one of the more innovative movie talents around ("Sin City", etc.). He says they want to get as far away from "Alien vs. Predator" as they can, realizing that was a mistake. This plus bringing back Ridley Scott for the new "Alien"...is Fox "getting it"? Have they really turned a corner?
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    Group: potadg Message: 54573 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    I'm in complete agreement our numbers are slowly falling unfortunatly some people feel they need to die with age ( inconsiderate!!! )
    however yes we should unite lifes to short to be battling against each other's website, comic, discussion group whatever.
    And if we want a common enemy to prod and take the piss out of how about star wars or star trek to name a few.
    No really why take the piss out of anyones personal prefrence of movies.
    We have people out there who dont understand about how we can like pota like we do.
    Peace and love to all , there's enough problems in the world without having to add to it.
    Korea???, Afganistan????, Iraq???, Recession???, ( God the list is never ending )
    Kiss and make up ?
    Mark :)
    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > It will never happen Jess.
    > >
    > > Not with POTA.
    > >
    > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > through on his group.
    > >
    > > Some things never change.
    > >
    > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
    > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
    > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > >
    > > Pathetic.
    > >
    > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
    > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > >
    > > > XD
    > > >
    > > > Jess.
    > > >
    > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Good idea John
    > > > >
    > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > >
    > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
    > > who
    > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
    > > say
    > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
    > > and
    > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > >
    > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
    > > the
    > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
    > > too.
    > > > >
    > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
    > > the
    > > > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I
    > > still
    > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > intended.
    > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > feedback
    > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > >
    > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
    > > not
    > > > > healthy.
    > > > >
    > > > > Michael
    > > > >
    > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
    > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > strength
    > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > batting for
    > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
    > > that
    > > > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54574 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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    .html

    Well, I’ve hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it’s out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.

     

    This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.

     

    Michael

     


    From: E. C. Gaska
    Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?

     

    Michael:
     

    Thanks for your email!  My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our ‘Lost Tribes’ imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.  

     

    BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes.  It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.

     

    While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details.  Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.)  We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.

     

    I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general.  Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal.  Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.

     

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Yours,
    Drew
    Andrew E. C. Gaska
    CEO
    BLAM! Ventures LLC
    www.blamventures.com


    On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty  wrote:

    Hey

     

    I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group

     

    We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.

     

    Is this correct?

     

    Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?

     

    Michael

     

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    Group: potadg Message: 54575 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Bubbles
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    Personaly, I'm getting tired of hearing about every minute detail about Jackson but I was wondering about this....



    Jackson's chimp living the good life in SWFL
    Bubbles was once a celebrity himself

    GETTY IMAGES BY GAB ARCHIVE/REDFERNS Michael Jackson with Bubbles in 1984.
    Bubbles, the chimpanzee who was Michael Jackson's constant companion for years, has been living at the Center for Great Apes, a sanctuary for chimpanzees and orangutans in Wauchula, about 70 miles north of Fort Myers, since 2005.

    "He's a wonderful chimpanzee," said Patti Ragan, founder and director of the ape center.

    Ms. Ragan said the 26-year-old chimp spends his days playing with fellow chimpanzees, running around the center's tunnel system and, well, just being Bubbles.

    "We have lots of celebrities here," Ragan said. "We treat them all the same. We try to keep their lives as rich as we can."

    Bubbles was born at a biomedical research facility in Austin, Texas, in 1983. While still an infant, he was purchased for Mr. Jackson by animal trainer Bob Dunn, center officials said.

    The chimp reportedly lived with the pop star at his Neverland compound, sat in on the recording of the "Bad" album and accompanied Mr. Jackson on the "Bad" world tour in 1988.

    COURTESY PHOTO Knuckles, 11, arrived at the center nine years ago from an entertainment compound in California.
    However, the singer's relationship with Bubbles was mocked in the press and became the first in a series of bizarre, eccentric behaviors that followed the pop icon the rest of his career.

    When Bubbles grew too large, he was removed to Mr. Dunn's California compound. In 2005, Mr. Dunn retired from the business of working chimpanzees and orangutans and sent all his apes, including Bubbles, to the Center for Great Apes.

    Mr. Jackson never visited Bubbles in Florida, center officials said. There is also a question of whether Mr. Jackson's estate will provide funds for Bubbles' care.

    The only funds the Center receives is through private donations, Ms. Ragan said. Anyone wishing to support Bubbles or any of the other chimpanzees or apes can contribute through its Web site www.greatapecenter.org.

    "We're greatful for any support," she said.

    The Center for Great Apes houses 42 chimpanzees and orangutans on 120 rural acres. They roam the grounds through an aboveground tunnel system that links roomy enclosures.

    Most of the apes, primates without tails, came to the 15-year-old sanctuary with stories that are as rich as Bubbles'. There's Sammy, who played the title role in "Dunston Checks In," a 1996 film starring Jason Alexander and Faye Dunaway. The Career Builder chimps and Trunk Monkey stars also call the center home, along with apes from circus acts, roadside zoos and private homes.

    There's even a chimp with disabilities. Knuckles, now 8 years old, was born with cerebral palsy and came to the Wauchula sanctuary after being deemed not useable in the entertainment business.

    Most of the primates come to the Center for Great Apes with social problems caused by being too "humanized" or swiped too early from their mothers. Others are the product of misguided owners who thought it would be fun to have a pet chimp, not figuring they would eventually grow up.

    Such is the plight of most of the primates at the Center For Great Apes. And at the center of these apes' lives is Ms. Ragan, the director and founder of the sanctuary.

    Petite and soft-spoken, Ms. Ragan is as much a giant to her 42 primate charges as they are to her. With a wide grin, she rattles off the names and personalities of each of the apes.

    Ms. Ragan has the blessing and continual support of world-renowned primatologist Jane Goodall. And she has a dedicated staff of about 16 and a devoted corps of volunteers, including Sue DuPre, who plays a recorder and blows bubbles for the apes, and her 80-yearold father, Miller Ekas. The North Fort Myers man is a gentle soul who coos to the apes as he fixes things around the sanctuary.

    "I just love the animals," Mr. Ekas told

    Florida Weekly in November. "They all have a sense of humor."

    Ms. Ragan has her life savings and her heart invested in helping apes that would have no other place to go but biomedical labs, where they would be subjected to research, or roadside shows. She gives them what she calls dignified retirement and lives.

    Despite the fact that it costs $600,000 a year — $15,000 per ape — Ms. Ragan pushes on, working to secure money for the sanctuary.

    Though her main goal is to provide a permanent home to ape rescues and retirees, she also hopes to make society aware of the need to not support apes in the entertainment business or as pets.

    As young apes, they might look cute and funny in shows and movies and even in your living room, but they grow up to weigh more than 200 pounds.

    Aside from the need for homes for displaced apes, many of the world's primates are being lost to corrupt governments and loss of habitats, Ms. Ragan says, adding, "We're all on this planet together."

    Center for Great Apes

    >>The center is on 120 acres in Wauchula, north of Tampa. >>The sanctuary cares for 14 orangutans and 28 chimpanzees. >>The outside habitats are three stories tall (about 35 feet) and all 12 enclosures are connected to each other, as well as to the vet clinic, by a tunnel/chute system that is more than 4,000 feet long. >> As a private nonprofit sanctuary, the Center for Great Apes' priority is maintaining a safe haven and peaceful habitat for the apes. Therefore, the sanctuary is not open to the public as an attraction. >>For more information or to make a donation, go to www.centerforgreatapes.org.

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    Group: potadg Message: 54576 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
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    They are really interesting Neil, thanks! I like the particular focus on Nova! Looks like Brigette Bardot!
    Is that last blue pic the only cover photo? Was there a dust jacket?


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
    To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:08:13 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustr ated by Jacques Pecnard.
     
    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
     
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Neil T. Foster
     

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    Group: potadg Message: 54577 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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    very exciting! Did anyone see any traces of this as the con?


    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 8:48:20 AM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    Well, I've hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it's out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.

     

    This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.

     

    Michael

     


    From: E. C. Gaska
    Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?

     

    Michael:
     

    Thanks for your email!  My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our 'Lost Tribes' imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.  

     

    BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes.  It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.

     

    While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details.  Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.)  We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.

     

    I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general.  Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal.  Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.

     

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Yours,
    Drew
    Andrew E. C. Gaska
    CEO
    BLAM! Ventures LLC
    www.blamventures. com


    On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty  wrote:

    Hey

     

    I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group

     

    We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.

     

    Is this correct?

     

    Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?

     

    Michael

     


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    Group: potadg Message: 54578 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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      Sure, Michael. What an imagination you have! A new POTA book >wink! wink!<.
     No, that sounds great. They really seem to know what they're talking about. Landon and Milo? That could be interesting. That could go a long way to explaining how Milo had all that time to find the ship, etc. All 5 of us will enjoy it.
     
      McDonald: But it's doomed to failure!
      Caesar: Maybe. This time.
      McDonald: And the next.
      Caesar: Perhaps.
      McDonald: But you'll keep trying.
      Caesar: We have to!
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:48 AM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    Well, I’ve hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it’s out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.

    This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.

    Michael


    From: E. C. Gaska
    Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?

    Michael:
     

    Thanks for your email!  My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our ‘Lost Tribes’ imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.  

    BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes.  It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.

    While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details.  Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.)  We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.

    I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general.  Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal.  Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Yours,
    Drew
    Andrew E. C. Gaska
    CEO
    BLAM! Ventures LLC
    www.blamventures. com


    On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty  wrote:

    Hey

    I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group

    We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.

    Is this correct?

    Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?

    Michael

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    Group: potadg Message: 54579 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
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    Oh, this sounds great! I've always thought there was a story (a short story, admitedly) just waiting to be told about Landon's fate. I'm looking forward to this.


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > Well, I've hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it's out
    > of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.
    >
    >
    >
    > This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or
    > two about POTA.
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: E. C. Gaska
    > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    > Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael:
    >
    >
    > Thanks for your email! My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia
    > company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital
    > media. Our 'Lost Tribes' imprint looks to revive many classic science
    > fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s
    > with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's
    > generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.
    >
    >
    >
    > BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX
    > Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel
    > titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes. It's story set during the
    > first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr.
    > Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains
    > over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top
    > talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of
    > 2010.
    >
    >
    >
    > While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out
    > some details. Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not
    > yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that
    > there is a "project" in the works though.) We will be making the official
    > announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art
    > from the book there.
    >
    >
    >
    > I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to
    > talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general. Perhaps you or
    > a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of
    > message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's
    > internet appeal. Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.
    >
    >
    >
    > I look forward to hearing from you.
    >
    >
    > Yours,
    > Drew
    > Andrew E. C. Gaska
    > CEO
    > BLAM! Ventures LLC
    > www.blamventures.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty wrote:
    >
    > Hey
    >
    >
    >
    > I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group
    >
    >
    >
    > We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.
    >
    >
    >
    > Is this correct?
    >
    >
    >
    > Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54580 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    That's a shame, I think it was pretty mature of you to make an offer like that. But don't give up yet, it might happen someday.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > It will never happen Jess.
    >
    > Not with POTA.
    >
    > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go through on his group.
    >
    > Some things never change.
    >
    > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    >
    > Pathetic.
    >
    > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > >
    > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > >
    > > XD
    > >
    > > Jess.
    > >
    > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Good idea John
    > > >
    > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > >
    > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow who
    > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they say
    > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous, and
    > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > >
    > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote the
    > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally too.
    > > >
    > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think the
    > > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I still
    > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal intended.
    > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing feedback
    > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > >
    > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's not
    > > > healthy.
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > > >
    > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the strength
    > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines batting for
    > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where that
    > > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54581 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    I'd love to see more Neil, thanks for sharing.


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback
    > 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustrated by Jacques Pecnard.
    >
    > I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with
    > these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the
    > group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than
    > never!
    >
    > There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload
    > the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Neil T. Foster
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54582 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: POTA Live Show
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    Thanks to Rich's detective work, I was able to get in touch with a guy who worked at the Newcastle City Hall when the Apes UK live show performed there (December '75-January '76). I've added the few memories he shared to the wiki page, but here's what he had to say:

    "We had a resident Circus, starring Planet of the Apes, at the City Hall. I had no particular involvement other than turning the houselights on and off for a few of the shows. There were perhaps half a dozen [Apes] and they basically ran round the auditorium miming to a show tape that we put on and played through the house PA (reel to reel 1/4inch tape, no less). From memory they were on late in the second half for about ten minutes before the Circus Finale. I don't recall a synopsis, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one.

    I remember the masks and costumes were very authentic. For one show, the apes went on strike and refused to appear. The first I knew of it was the Ringmaster announcing that due to circumstances beyond their control, Planet of the Apes were unable to appear. Curious, I went backstage and found them sitting in the understage band room, in costume, looking miserable. They said that they hadn't been paid, they had been promised and let down too many times and they were fed up. It must have got sorted out pretty quickly as they did the next show, or possibly it was a Saturday and they did the evening one.

    One key thing that happened though, was that the manager's son (who was the City Hall lighting man) eloped with the high wire act - resulting in my promotion to House Electrician!"

    Wonder if those tapes are still in someones basement/attic/garage...
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    Group: potadg Message: 54583 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    There is a dust jacket but it is clear plastic with just the titles printed in white on it, very unusual.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:36 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    They are really interesting Neil, thanks! I like the particular focus on Nova! Looks like Brigette Bardot!
    Is that last blue pic the only cover photo? Was there a dust jacket?


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:08:13 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustr ated by Jacques Pecnard.
     
    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
     
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Neil T. Foster
     

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    Group: potadg Message: 54584 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    Cool, I'll upload some more today when I get the chance.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:05 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: La Planete des Singes artwork

    I'd love to see more Neil, thanks for sharing.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
    >
    > I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback
    > 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustrated by Jacques Pecnard.
    >
    > I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with
    > these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the
    > group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than
    > never!
    >
    > There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload
    > the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Neil T. Foster
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 54585 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    would love to see a scan of that if you don't mind! and any more illustrations would be great to see too!


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 5:21:30 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    There is a dust jacket but it is clear plastic with just the titles printed in white on it, very unusual.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:36 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    They are really interesting Neil, thanks! I like the particular focus on Nova! Looks like Brigette Bardot!
    Is that last blue pic the only cover photo? Was there a dust jacket?


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:08:13 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustr ated by Jacques Pecnard.
     
    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
     
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Neil T. Foster
     


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    Group: potadg Message: 54586 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    Okay, I'll have to get the book out, so it will have to be later today.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:31 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    would love to see a scan of that if you don't mind! and any more illustrations would be great to see too!


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 5:21:30 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    There is a dust jacket but it is clear plastic with just the titles printed in white on it, very unusual.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:36 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    They are really interesting Neil, thanks! I like the particular focus on Nova! Looks like Brigette Bardot!
    Is that last blue pic the only cover photo? Was there a dust jacket?


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:08:13 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustr ated by Jacques Pecnard.
     
    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
     
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Neil T. Foster
     


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    Group: potadg Message: 54587 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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    I hope there’s a niche for it Jeff but I foresee very poor sales.

     

    I also wish it WERE a comic because that might get more younger people interested….or maybe this is a great idea because it aims at the older fans?

     

    I wish it well.

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 12:53 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

     




      Sure, Michael. What an imagination you have! A new POTA book >wink! wink!<.

     No, that sounds great. They really seem to know what they're talking about. Landon and Milo ? That could be interesting. That could go a long way to explaining how Milo had all that time to find the ship, etc. All 5 of us will enjoy it.

     

      McDonald: But it's doomed to failure!

      Caesar: Maybe. This time.

      McDonald: And the next.

      Caesar: Perhaps.

      McDonald: But you'll keep trying.

      Caesar: We have to!

     

    ----- Original Message -----

    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:48 AM

    Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

     

    Well, I’ve hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it’s out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.

    This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.

    Michael


    From: E. C. Gaska
    Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?

    Michael:
     

    Thanks for your email!  My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our ‘Lost Tribes’ imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.  

    BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes.  It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.

    While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details.  Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.)  We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.

    I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general.  Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal.  Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Yours,
    Drew
    Andrew E. C. Gaska
    CEO
    BLAM! Ventures LLC
    www.blamventures. com



    On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty  wrote:

    Hey

    I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group

    We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.

    Is this correct?

    Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?

    Michael

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    Group: potadg Message: 54588 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Fanzine Federation
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    James

     

    Everyone knows this is because you have been steadily inflating the numbers by adding “members” who do not exist.

     

    Not even your most staunch defender can say with a straight face that there are anywhere near more than about 100 genuine members out of these.

     

    It’s like going around telling people you have a 12 inch cock – someone’s going to be pissing next to you one day and see it’s closer to one inch!  J

    Michael

     


    From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
    Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 2:06 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: Fanzine Federation

     




    I really don't think that we are dwindling in number. Back in 2001 at the height of mainstream interest there was only one POTA group around with only a few hundred members. Since then more have sprung up, like Forum of the Apes, and this group alone has swelled to over 800 members.

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54589 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: POTA Live Show
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    Who was it Moxy?

     

    Thanks to Rich also!

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
    Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:16 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Live Show

     




    Thanks to Rich's detective work, I was able to get in touch with a guy who worked at the Newcastle City Hall when the Apes UK live show performed there (December '75-January '76). I've added the few memories he shared to the wiki page, but here's what he had to say:

    "We had a resident Circus, starring Planet of the Apes, at the City Hall. I had no particular involvement other than turning the houselights on and off for a few of the shows. There were perhaps half a dozen [Apes] and they basically ran round the auditorium miming to a show tape that we put on and played through the house PA (reel to reel 1/4inch tape, no less). From memory they were on late in the second half for about ten minutes before the Circus Finale. I don't recall a synopsis, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one.

    I remember the masks and costumes were very authentic. For one show, the apes went on strike and refused to appear. The first I knew of it was the Ringmaster announcing that due to circumstances beyond their control, Planet of the Apes were unable to appear. Curious, I went backstage and found them sitting in the understage band room, in costume, looking miserable. They said that they hadn't been paid, they had been promised and let down too many times and they were fed up. It must have got sorted out pretty quickly as they did the next show, or possibly it was a Saturday and they did the evening one.

    One key thing that happened though, was that the manager's son (who was the City Hall lighting man) eloped with the high wire act - resulting in my promotion to House Electrician! "

    Wonder if those tapes are still in someones basement/attic/ garage...

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    Group: potadg Message: 54590 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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      There's already been comic book attempts that haven't done well but it's been a while since a book. It doesn't sound like a standard paperback but some franchises have had new life from paperback books. That might work with the older fans while the comic book crowd wants "Transformers", whatever.
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:37 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    I hope there’s a niche for it Jeff but I foresee very poor sales.

    I also wish it WERE a comic because that might get more younger people interested….or maybe this is a great idea because it aims at the older fans?

    I wish it well.

    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 12:53 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes




      Sure, Michael. What an imagination you have! A new POTA book >wink! wink!<.

     No, that sounds great. They really seem to know what they're talking about. Landon and Milo ? That could be interesting. That could go a long way to explaining how Milo had all that time to find the ship, etc. All 5 of us will enjoy it.

      McDonald: But it's doomed to failure!

      Caesar: Maybe. This time.

      McDonald: And the next.

      Caesar: Perhaps.

      McDonald: But you'll keep trying.

      Caesar: We have to!

    ----- Original Message -----

    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:48 AM

    Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    Well, I’ve hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it’s out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.

    This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.

    Michael


    From: E. C. Gaska
    Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?

    Michael:
     

    Thanks for your email!  My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our ‘Lost Tribes’ imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.  

    BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes.  It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.

    While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details.  Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.)  We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.

    I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general.  Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal.  Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Yours,
    Drew
    Andrew E. C. Gaska
    CEO
    BLAM! Ventures LLC
    www.blamventures. com



    On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty  wrote:

    Hey

    I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group

    We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.

    Is this correct?

    Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?

    Michael

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    Group: potadg Message: 54591 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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      I remember in the late '80's you couldn't be more "out" than "Star Wars" was and then they put out a series of paper back books ("Heir to the Empire" or something) and it started the "Star Wars" renaissance of the '90's. Lot of room to try interesting ideas in a book and sometimes interesting ideas hook people.
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:37 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    I hope there’s a niche for it Jeff but I foresee very poor sales.

    I also wish it WERE a comic because that might get more younger people interested….or maybe this is a great idea because it aims at the older fans?

    I wish it well.

    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 12:53 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes




      Sure, Michael. What an imagination you have! A new POTA book >wink! wink!<.

     No, that sounds great. They really seem to know what they're talking about. Landon and Milo ? That could be interesting. That could go a long way to explaining how Milo had all that time to find the ship, etc. All 5 of us will enjoy it.

      McDonald: But it's doomed to failure!

      Caesar: Maybe. This time.

      McDonald: And the next.

      Caesar: Perhaps.

      McDonald: But you'll keep trying.

      Caesar: We have to!

    ----- Original Message -----

    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:48 AM

    Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    Well, I’ve hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it’s out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.

    This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.

    Michael


    From: E. C. Gaska
    Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?

    Michael:
     

    Thanks for your email!  My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our ‘Lost Tribes’ imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.  

    BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes.  It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.

    While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details.  Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.)  We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.

    I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general.  Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal.  Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Yours,
    Drew
    Andrew E. C. Gaska
    CEO
    BLAM! Ventures LLC
    www.blamventures. com



    On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty  wrote:

    Hey

    I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group

    We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.

    Is this correct?

    Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?

    Michael

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    Group: potadg Message: 54592 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Hot off the apevine!!
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    Apemania will be baking foam latex appliances to fit my two sons who are 10 years and 4 years. I will sew them standard issue gorilla outfits including bandolier and perhaps fake a couple of"wooden" clubs. They are going to look so bloody fabulous. I am one excited chimpette!

    Jess.
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    Group: potadg Message: 54593 From: nlmoxham Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: POTA Live Show
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    His name is Ian Grey and he writes a blog about his life. I haven't read much beyond his mention of POTA, but he seems to have been very involved in backstage theatre work in the mid-70s. He was still in school at the time, I don't know if he made a career out of it.


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > Who was it Moxy?
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanks to Rich also!
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
    > nlmoxham
    > Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:16 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Live Show
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanks to Rich's detective work, I was able to get in touch with a guy who
    > worked at the Newcastle City Hall when the Apes UK live show performed there
    > (December '75-January '76). I've added the few memories he shared to the
    > wiki page, but here's what he had to say:
    >
    > "We had a resident Circus, starring Planet of the Apes, at the City Hall. I
    > had no particular involvement other than turning the houselights on and off
    > for a few of the shows. There were perhaps half a dozen [Apes] and they
    > basically ran round the auditorium miming to a show tape that we put on and
    > played through the house PA (reel to reel 1/4inch tape, no less). From
    > memory they were on late in the second half for about ten minutes before the
    > Circus Finale. I don't recall a synopsis, but that doesn't mean there wasn't
    > one.
    >
    > I remember the masks and costumes were very authentic. For one show, the
    > apes went on strike and refused to appear. The first I knew of it was the
    > Ringmaster announcing that due to circumstances beyond their control, Planet
    > of the Apes were unable to appear. Curious, I went backstage and found them
    > sitting in the understage band room, in costume, looking miserable. They
    > said that they hadn't been paid, they had been promised and let down too
    > many times and they were fed up. It must have got sorted out pretty quickly
    > as they did the next show, or possibly it was a Saturday and they did the
    > evening one.
    >
    > One key thing that happened though, was that the manager's son (who was the
    > City Hall lighting man) eloped with the high wire act - resulting in my
    > promotion to House Electrician!"
    >
    > Wonder if those tapes are still in someones basement/attic/garage...
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54594 From: John Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
    .html
    I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > It will never happen Jess.
    > >
    > > Not with POTA.
    > >
    > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > through on his group.
    > >
    > > Some things never change.
    > >
    > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
    > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
    > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > >
    > > Pathetic.
    > >
    > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
    > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > >
    > > > XD
    > > >
    > > > Jess.
    > > >
    > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Good idea John
    > > > >
    > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > >
    > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
    > > who
    > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
    > > say
    > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
    > > and
    > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > >
    > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
    > > the
    > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
    > > too.
    > > > >
    > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
    > > the
    > > > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I
    > > still
    > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > intended.
    > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > feedback
    > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > >
    > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
    > > not
    > > > > healthy.
    > > > >
    > > > > Michael
    > > > >
    > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
    > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > strength
    > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > batting for
    > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
    > > that
    > > > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54595 From: John Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    I'd like to see the rest of these. Seem very French. ;)
    Some were really cool & some just looked like doodles from a sketch book. Strange.



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback
    > 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustrated by Jacques Pecnard.
    >
    > I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with
    > these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the
    > group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than
    > never!
    >
    > There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload
    > the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Neil T. Foster
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54596 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
    .html
    Photos please!

    What's the date of this event?

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Apemania will be baking foam latex appliances to fit my two sons who are 10
    > years and 4 years. I will sew them standard issue gorilla outfits including
    > bandolier and perhaps fake a couple of"wooden" clubs. They are going to
    > look so bloody fabulous. I am one excited chimpette!
    >
    > Jess.
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54597 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    .html
    Well it is a GRAPHIC novel too and supposedly includes illustrations by some big comic book artists, so that could give it dual appeal.

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > There's already been comic book attempts that haven't done well but it's been a while since a book. It doesn't sound like a standard paperback but some franchises have had new life from paperback books. That might work with the older fans while the comic book crowd wants "Transformers", whatever.
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:37 PM
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I hope there's a niche for it Jeff but I foresee very poor sales.
    >
    >
    >
    > I also wish it WERE a comic because that might get more younger people interested..or maybe this is a great idea because it aims at the older fans?
    >
    >
    >
    > I wish it well.
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    > Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 12:53 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Sure, Michael. What an imagination you have! A new POTA book >wink! wink!<.
    >
    > No, that sounds great. They really seem to know what they're talking about. Landon and Milo? That could be interesting. That could go a long way to explaining how Milo had all that time to find the ship, etc. All 5 of us will enjoy it.
    >
    >
    >
    > McDonald: But it's doomed to failure!
    >
    > Caesar: Maybe. This time.
    >
    > McDonald: And the next.
    >
    > Caesar: Perhaps.
    >
    > McDonald: But you'll keep trying.
    >
    > Caesar: We have to!
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    >
    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty
    >
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    >
    > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:48 AM
    >
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >
    >
    >
    > Well, I've hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it's out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.
    >
    > This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > From: E. C. Gaska
    > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    > Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?
    >
    > Michael:
    >
    >
    > Thanks for your email! My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our 'Lost Tribes' imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.
    >
    > BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes. It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.
    >
    > While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details. Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.) We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.
    >
    > I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general. Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal. Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.
    >
    > I look forward to hearing from you.
    >
    >
    > Yours,
    > Drew
    > Andrew E. C. Gaska
    > CEO
    > BLAM! Ventures LLC
    > www.blamventures.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty wrote:
    >
    > Hey
    >
    > I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group
    >
    > We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.
    >
    > Is this correct?
    >
    > Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?
    >
    > Michael
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54598 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
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    Not until October 31, but it still takes time to recreate. I'll be making deluxe pullover masks for the two of them. Ashton is VERY excited, and it's his first year at school. I may have to take the day off to go under the goo. Not really sure yet...depends if I have a cold or not. Wow...If I DO go under the goo, it will be the fourth time in one year!
    Jess.

    On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Michael Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:


    Photos please!

    What's the date of this event?

    Michael



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Apemania will be baking foam latex appliances to fit my two sons who are 10
    > years and 4 years. I will sew them standard issue gorilla outfits including
    > bandolier and perhaps fake a couple of"wooden" clubs. They are going to
    > look so bloody fabulous. I am one excited chimpette!
    >
    > Jess.
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 54599 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/2/2009
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    Stop teasing!

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    If I DO go under the goo, it will be the fourth time in one year!
    >
    > Jess.
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54600 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 3896
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    Answering several posts at once, since I've hardly had a moment
    lately to check the groups...

    >2a. Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >Posted by: "Michael & Sally Whitty" sallywhitty@... mike_oz2002
    >Well, I've hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it's out
    >of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go. This sounds
    >VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two
    >about POTA.

    I've met Drew, and he's a great guy who has a lot of enthusiasm for
    this project, and for the Apes universe in general. What he has in
    mind for Planet of the Apes sounds like it's going to be fantastic,
    and I'm very much looking forward to reading it.

    >2f. Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >Posted by: "Jeff K." veetus@...
    >There's already been comic book attempts that haven't done well but
    >it's been a while since a book.

    Historically, Planet of the Apes comics have actually done pretty
    well, despite not lasting that long. According to Doug Moench, the
    Marvel run was still showing strong sales as of issue 29 but his
    editor dropped the title because Fox had upped the licensing fees so
    high that it was no longer worth it to keep publishing--to my
    surprise, when I interviewed him, he was adamant that the cancelation
    wasn't due to low sales. In fact, he and the editor had another 30
    issues planned out, believe it or not. And the Malibu line, once you
    add up the monthly series and the various miniseries, ran for about
    60 issues, which is a pretty good run. According to Charles Marshall
    and Tom Mason, that series sold well also--the reason it ended, Mason
    told me, was that Malibu was having financial problems unrelated to
    its POTA line, and that the company, therefore, decided to cut a lot
    of its properties out of desperation. I don't know Mr. Comics'
    numbers, but from I recall (and Ty, feel free to correct me on this),
    the problem he faced with Revolution on the POTA was the publisher's
    lack of marketing. A lot of people simply didn't know the series
    existed. Given all this, I actually think a new series of POTA books
    or comics could be quite popular--if the company publishing them
    knows how to market it. Enough years have passed since the 2001
    fiasco that people might be open to it now, especially if the word of
    mouth is good and the profile is high enough.

    >2g. Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >Posted by: "Jeff K." veetus@...
    >I remember in the late '80's you couldn't be more "out" than "Star
    >Wars" was and then they put out a series of paper back books ("Heir
    >to the Empire" or something) and it started the "Star Wars"
    >renaissance of the '90's. Lot of room to try interesting ideas in a
    >book and sometimes interesting ideas hook people.

    Exactly. Before Heir to the Empire and the comic miniseries Dark
    Empire, Star Wars was completely off the radar. Between those two
    titles, Lucasfilm suddenly was able to wallpaper his house in
    hundred-dollar bills again.

    >5a. POTA Live Show
    >Posted by: "nlmoxham" neilmoxham@... nlmoxham
    >Thanks to Rich's detective work, I was able to get in touch with a
    >guy who worked at the Newcastle City Hall when the Apes UK live show
    >performed there (December '75-January '76). I've added the few
    >memories he shared to the wiki page, but here's what he had to say:

    I'm glad you were able to reach him! This may be a tiny nugget...but
    it's a nugget, nonetheless!

    >5b. Re: POTA Live Show
    >Posted by: "Michael & Sally Whitty" sallywhitty@... mike_oz2002
    >Thanks to Rich also!

    Here's what happened: As Neil mentioned, I did a bit of detective
    work and found a guy named Ian Gray, who worked on the UK show for a
    while. Unfortunately, my attempts to contact him kept failing since
    I couldn't log into his blog, despite having a working WordPress
    account. Very odd--and very frustrating. So when Neil heard that I
    was attempting to track down info about that show (as was he), he
    contacted me and told me what he knew about it so far. I told him
    about Gray, suggesting he give it a try since technical issues were
    preventing me from getting through. Luckily, WordPress doesn't seem
    to hate Neil, like it does me, and he succeeded in reaching Gray. So
    far, this is the only lead I've been able to find, but the fact that
    I found it leads me to believe there must be others as well who could
    shed some light on the subject.

    >6. Re: [pota] Re: Fanzine Federation
    >Posted by: "Michael & Sally Whitty" sallywhitty@... mike_oz2002
    >Not even your most staunch defender can say with a straight face that there
    >are anywhere near more than about 100 genuine members out of these.

    Without getting involved one way or the other in the debate over
    inflated numbers, I will say that despite my recent thread regarding
    dwindling numbers among Apes fans, I'm still selling copies of the
    timeline book on a daily basis, eight months after it first came out,
    and I still receive e-mails about it on a pretty steady basis as
    well. So the total fandom numbers for POTA might be higher than
    people think. If there ARE only 100 die-hard fans out there, then
    I'm very grateful to them, because they've apparently each purchased
    numerous copies of my book. :)

    >7a. Hot off the apevine!!
    >Posted by: "jessica rotich" jessicarotich@... juswannaknit
    >Apemania will be baking foam latex appliances to fit my two sons who are 10
    >years and 4 years. I will sew them standard issue gorilla outfits including
    >bandolier and perhaps fake a couple of"wooden" clubs. They are going to
    >look so bloody fabulous. I am one excited chimpette!

    That is very cool! Tell us more....
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    Group: potadg Message: 54601 From: Jeff Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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    The Con starts July 23
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:44 AM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    very exciting! Did anyone see any traces of this as the con?


    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 8:48:20 AM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    Well, I've hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it's out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.

     

    This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.

     

    Michael

     


    From: E. C. Gaska
    Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?

     

    Michael:
     

    Thanks for your email!  My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our 'Lost Tribes' imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.  

     

    BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes.  It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.

     

    While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details.  Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.)  We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.

     

    I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general.  Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal.  Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.

     

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Yours,
    Drew
    Andrew E. C. Gaska
    CEO
    BLAM! Ventures LLC
    www.blamventures. com


    On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty  wrote:

    Hey

     

    I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group

     

    We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.

     

    Is this correct?

     

    Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?

     

    Michael

     


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    Group: potadg Message: 54602 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
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    Yeah they are an odd mix.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:08 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: La Planete des Singes artwork

    I'd like to see the rest of these. Seem very French. ;)
    Some were really cool & some just looked like doodles from a sketch book. Strange.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
    >
    > I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback
    > 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustrated by Jacques Pecnard.
    >
    > I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with
    > these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the
    > group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than
    > never!
    >
    > There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload
    > the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Neil T. Foster
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 54603 From: Jeff Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
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    Are they sculpting new faces for their sizes?  How nauch are they charging?
     
    Jeff B
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:29 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Hot off the apevine!!

    Apemania will be baking foam latex appliances to fit my two sons who are 10 years and 4 years.  I will sew them standard issue gorilla outfits including bandolier and perhaps fake a couple of"wooden" clubs.  They are going to look so bloody fabulous.  I am one excited chimpette!

    Jess. 

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    Group: potadg Message: 54604 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
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    Technically it's not a graphic novel. From what I've heard its a short novel with illustrations. A graphic novel is a very, very long comic book.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:11 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes

    Well it is a GRAPHIC novel too and supposedly includes illustrations by some big comic book artists, so that could give it dual appeal.

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > There's already been comic book attempts that haven't done well but it's been a while since a book. It doesn't sound like a standard paperback but some franchises have had new life from paperback books. That might work with the older fans while the comic book crowd wants "Transformers" , whatever.
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:37 PM
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I hope there's a niche for it Jeff but I foresee very poor sales.
    >
    >
    >
    > I also wish it WERE a comic because that might get more younger people interested.. or maybe this is a great idea because it aims at the older fans?
    >
    >
    >
    > I wish it well.
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
    >
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
    > Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 12:53 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Sure, Michael. What an imagination you have! A new POTA book >wink! wink!<.
    >
    > No, that sounds great. They really seem to know what they're talking about. Landon and Milo? That could be interesting. That could go a long way to explaining how Milo had all that time to find the ship, etc. All 5 of us will enjoy it.
    >
    >
    >
    > McDonald: But it's doomed to failure!
    >
    > Caesar: Maybe. This time.
    >
    > McDonald: And the next.
    >
    > Caesar: Perhaps.
    >
    > McDonald: But you'll keep trying.
    >
    > Caesar: We have to!
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    >
    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty
    >
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    >
    > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:48 AM
    >
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
    >
    >
    >
    > Well, I've hung on to this for a long time now and Andrew did say it's out of the bag now (at San Diego Comic Con) so here you go.
    >
    > This sounds VERY exciting to me and sounds like Andrew DOES know a thing or two about POTA.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
    >
    > From: E. C. Gaska
    > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 5:57 AM
    > Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes?
    >
    > Michael:
    >
    >
    > Thanks for your email! My company, BLAM! Ventures, LLC, is a multimedia company specializing in the comic book/graphic novel industry and digital media. Our 'Lost Tribes' imprint looks to revive many classic science fiction and fantasy movies and television shows of the '60s, '70s and '80s with a fresh approach and a reverent hand, touching the audiences of today's generation, while reacquainting previous fans with old friends.
    >
    > BLAM!'s first Planet of the Apes project, officially licensed by FOX Broadcasting, isn't a comic book but is an over-sized illustrated novel titled Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes. It's story set during the first movie and centers on the Astronaut Landon and Chimpanzee scientist Dr. Milo. The novel is written by me with my two creative partners, contains over 20 full color "paintings" (digital and traditional) from various top talent in the industry and will be in all the bookstores in the Spring of 2010.
    >
    > While the first draft has been approved by FOX, we are still working out some details. Therefore, this project is still confidential and we have not yet made an official press release. (Feel free to drop hints to others that there is a "project" in the works though.) We will be making the official announcement just prior to San Diego Comic Con and will be displaying art from the book there.
    >
    > I would love to become a member of your discussion board, and would like to talk to you about increasing POTA's web presence in general. Perhaps you or a member of your group would be interested in facilitating the uniting of message boards and creation of resource web sites in order to beef up POTA's internet appeal. Feel free to email me or contact me at the number below.
    >
    > I look forward to hearing from you.
    >
    >
    > Yours,
    > Drew
    > Andrew E. C. Gaska
    > CEO
    > BLAM! Ventures LLC
    > www.blamventures. com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Michael Whitty wrote:
    >
    > Hey
    >
    > I am the co-owner of a Planet of the Apes Yahoo! Discussion Group
    >
    > We have heard you are doing a Planet of the Apes comic.
    >
    > Is this correct?
    >
    > Is there anything you can tell us that I can pass on to members?
    >
    > Michael
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 54605 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
    a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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    You can access this file at the URL:
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    Group: potadg Message: 54606 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/2/2009
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      Hey everyone! Jessica's rich! (with apologies to Book Writer Rich).
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:29 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Hot off the apevine!!

    Apemania will be baking foam latex appliances to fit my two sons who are 10 years and 4 years.  I will sew them standard issue gorilla outfits including bandolier and perhaps fake a couple of"wooden" clubs.  They are going to look so bloody fabulous.  I am one excited chimpette!

    Jess. 

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    Group: potadg Message: 54609 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: More French hardcover illustrations added.
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    Just uploaded another batch of illustrations from the illustrated French edition of Monkey planet to the files section.
    I like #17, the chimps remind me of the old PG Tips adverts - "Hey Stan do you know the Human over there has no clothes on?"... "No Ethel,  but you hum a few bars and I'll join in... "
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
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    Hello,

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    Group: potadg Message: 54614 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: La Planete des Singes artwork
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    Here you go Tim, one is a scan of the cover on the book and the other is just the clear cover (which shows up how dirty my scanner lid is!).
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:31 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    would love to see a scan of that if you don't mind! and any more illustrations would be great to see too!


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 5:21:30 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    There is a dust jacket but it is clear plastic with just the titles printed in white on it, very unusual.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:36 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    They are really interesting Neil, thanks! I like the particular focus on Nova! Looks like Brigette Bardot!
    Is that last blue pic the only cover photo? Was there a dust jacket?


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:08:13 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] La Planete des Singes artwork

    I have just uploaded a few of the illustrations from a French hardback 1971 Edition of La Planete des Singes, illustr ated by Jacques Pecnard.
     
    I have been cleaning up my computer and came across the folder with these in and remembered saying ages ago that I would share them with the group. For some reason I never got around to it but better late than never!
     
    There's still quite a few of them to go so if anyone wants me to upload the rest just say so and I'll be happy to do so.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Neil T. Foster
     


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    Group: potadg Message: 54615 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    Wait a minute! Sometimes I AM a Trekkie!! That won't work at all....
    Jess.

    On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, John <DrZaiusDavis@... > wrote:


    I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>wrote:

    >
    > >
    > >
    > > It will never happen Jess.
    > >
    > > Not with POTA.
    > >
    > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > through on his group.
    > >
    > > Some things never change.
    > >
    > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
    > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
    > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > >
    > > Pathetic.
    > >
    > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG% 40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich

    > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > >
    > > > XD
    > > >
    > > > Jess.
    > > >
    > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Good idea John
    > > > >
    > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > >
    > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
    > > who
    > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
    > > say
    > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
    > > and
    > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > >
    > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
    > > the
    > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
    > > too.
    > > > >
    > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
    > > the
    > > > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I
    > > still
    > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > intended.
    > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > feedback
    > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > >
    > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
    > > not
    > > > > healthy.
    > > > >
    > > > > Michael
    > > > >
    > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%

    > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > strength
    > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > batting for
    > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
    > > that
    > > > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 54616 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: Hot off the apevine!!
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    I am poor in coffers but rich in spirit, and just very very lucky when it comes to Planet of the Apes. If the foam latex appliances were unaffordable, I would have been sculpting and baking my own foam latex. I don't think they are making them from scratch, and again, I am lucky in that sense which made them affordable.
    If I could afford it, I would buy everything Apemania and hire someone to make my wig...but since I am just a trained monkey juggling other people's balls, I only earn just a smattering of chimpchange. I have champagne tastes on a tap water budget, if you can call it a budget.
    Jess.

    On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:


    Hey everyone! Jessica's rich! (with apologies to Book Writer Rich).
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:29 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Hot off the apevine!!

    Apemania will be baking foam latex appliances to fit my two sons who are 10 years and 4 years. I will sew them standard issue gorilla outfits including bandolier and perhaps fake a couple of"wooden" clubs. They are going to look so bloody fabulous. I am one excited chimpette!

    Jess.


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    Group: potadg Message: 54617 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 7/2/2009
    Subject: Re: More French hardcover illustrations added.
    .html
    .html I hope Pecnard didn't cost them much. His work isn't very dynamic or consistent.
     
    On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:56 pm, Neil Foster wrote:

    Just uploaded another batch of illustrations from the illustrated French edition of Monkey planet to the files section.
    I like #17, the chimps remind me of the old PG Tips adverts - "Hey Stan do you know the Human over there has no clothes on?"... "No Ethel,  but you hum a few bars and I'll join in... "
     
    Neil T. Foster
     

    To visit your group on the web, go to:
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    Group: potadg Message: 54618 From: rassmguy Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
    .html
    I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
    > I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > >
    > > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    > >
    > > Jess.
    > >
    > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > It will never happen Jess.
    > > >
    > > > Not with POTA.
    > > >
    > > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > > through on his group.
    > > >
    > > > Some things never change.
    > > >
    > > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
    > > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
    > > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > > >
    > > > Pathetic.
    > > >
    > > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > > >
    > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
    > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > > >
    > > > > XD
    > > > >
    > > > > Jess.
    > > > >
    > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Good idea John
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
    > > > who
    > > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
    > > > say
    > > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
    > > > and
    > > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
    > > > the
    > > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
    > > > too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
    > > > the
    > > > > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I
    > > > still
    > > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > > intended.
    > > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > > feedback
    > > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
    > > > not
    > > > > > healthy.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Michael
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
    > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > > strength
    > > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > > batting for
    > > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
    > > > that
    > > > > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54619 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
    .html
    I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers!!! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

    Kevin


    -----Original Message-----
    From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation



    I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
    > I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
    > >
    > > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    > >
    > > Jess.
    > >
    > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > It will never happen Jess.
    > > >
    > > > Not with POTA.
    > > >
    > > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > > through on his group.
    > > >
    > > > Some things never change.
    > > >
    > > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
    > > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
    > > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > > >
    > > > Pathetic.
    > > >
    > > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > > >
    > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <PotaDG%40yahoogrou ps.com>, jessica rotich
    > > > <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > > >
    > > > > XD
    > > > >
    >=2 0> > > Jess.
    > > > >
    > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Good idea John
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
    > > > who
    > > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
    > > > say
    > > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
    > > > and
    > > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
    > > > the
    > > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
    > > > too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
    > > > the
    > > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
    > > > still
    > > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > > intended.
    > > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > > feedback
    > > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
    > > > not
    > > > > > healthy.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Michael
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota%40yahoogroups .com> <pota%
    > > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > > strength
    > > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > > batting for
    > > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
    > > > that
    > > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 54620 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
    a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
    group.

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    You can access this file at the URL:
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    To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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    Group: potadg Message: 54621 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
    a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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    Group: potadg Message: 54622 From: haydon.mark Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
    .html
    Star trekking across the universe,
    Mark :)
    - In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Wait a minute! Sometimes I AM a Trekkie!! That won't work at all....
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
    > >
    > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
    > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > > > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    > > >
    > > > Jess.
    > > >
    > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > It will never happen Jess.
    > > > >
    > > > > Not with POTA.
    > > > >
    > > > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > > > through on his group.
    > > > >
    > > > > Some things never change.
    > > > >
    > > > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being
    > > able
    > > > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in
    > > a
    > > > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > > > >
    > > > > Pathetic.
    > > > >
    > > > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > > > >
    > > > > Michael
    > > > >
    > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> <PotaDG%
    > > 40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
    > >
    > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and
    > > testosterone
    > > > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to
    > > unite
    > > > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > XD
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Jess.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Good idea John
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the
    > > fellow
    > > > > who
    > > > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to
    > > be a
    > > > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and
    > > they
    > > > > say
    > > > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely
    > > ridiculous,
    > > > > and
    > > > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and
    > > promote
    > > > > the
    > > > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc)
    > > equally
    > > > > too.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I
    > > think
    > > > > the
    > > > > > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion.
    > > But I
    > > > > still
    > > > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > > > intended.
    > > > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > > > feedback
    > > > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too.
    > > It's
    > > > > not
    > > > > > > healthy.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Michael
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
    > > 40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
    > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all
    > > devote a
    > > > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > > > strength
    > > > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > > > batting for
    > > > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see
    > > where
    > > > > that
    > > > > > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54623 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.
     
    My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

    I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers! !! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

    Kevin


    -----Original Message-----
    From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation



    I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
    > I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
    > >
    > > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    > >
    > > Jess.
    > >
    > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > It will never happen Jess.
    > > >
    > > > Not with POTA.
    > > >
    > > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > > through on his group.
    > > >
    > > > Some things never change.
    > > >
    > > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
    > > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
    > > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > > >
    > > > Pathetic.
    > > >
    > > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > > >
    > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <PotaDG%40yahoogrou ps.com>, jessica rotich
    > > > <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > > >
    > > > > XD
    > > > >
    >=2 0> > > Jess.
    > > > >
    > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Good idea John
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
    > > > who
    > > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
    > > > say
    > > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
    > > > and
    > > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
    > > > the
    > > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
    > > > too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
    > > > the
    > > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
    > > > still
    > > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > > intended.
    > > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > > feedback
    > > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
    > > > not
    > > > > > healthy.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Michael
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota%40yahoogroups .com> <pota%
    > > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > > strength
    > > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > > batting for
    > > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
    > > > that
    > > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 54624 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: Re: Fanzine Federation
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    Rich when you say complete is that just the DVDs or is it also EVERY Star Trek comic as well? If so that would be a huge amount of comics wouldn't it?
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:08 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

    I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
    > I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
    > >
    > > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
    > > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
    > >
    > > Jess.
    > >
    > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > It will never happen Jess.
    > > >
    > > > Not with POTA.
    > > >
    > > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
    > > > through on his group.
    > > >
    > > > Some things never change.
    > > >
    > > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
    > > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
    > > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
    > > >
    > > > Pathetic.
    > > >
    > > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > > >
    > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <PotaDG%40yahoogrou ps.com>, jessica rotich
    > > > <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
    > > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
    > > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
    > > > >
    > > > > XD
    > > > >
    > > > > Jess.
    > > > >
    > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Good idea John
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
    > > > who
    > > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
    > > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
    > > > say
    > > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
    > > > and
    > > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
    > > > the
    > > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
    > > > too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
    > > > the
    > > > > > standards of SS have slipped, but that's just my humble opinion. But I
    > > > still
    > > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
    > > > intended.
    > > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
    > > > feedback
    > > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
    > > > not
    > > > > > healthy.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Michael
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota%40yahoogroups .com> <pota%
    > > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
    > > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
    > > > strength
    > > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
    > > > batting for
    > > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
    > > > that
    > > > > > takes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 54625 From: Neil Foster Date: 7/3/2009
    Subject: Re: More French hardcover illustrations added.
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    He's not consistent, that's how I feel about his stuff in this book as well. Like John said, some of them just look like sketches or doodles. I wonder if that was deliberate? I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 2:17 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] More French hardcover illustrations added.

    I hope Pecnard didn't cost them much. His work isn't very dynamic or consistent.


    On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:56 pm, Neil Foster wrote:

    Just uploaded another batch of illustrations from the illustrated French edition of Monkey planet to the files section.
    I like #17, the chimps remind me of the old PG Tips adverts - "Hey Stan do you know the Human over there has no clothes on?"... "No Ethel,  but you hum a few bars and I'll join in... "
     
    Neil T. Foster
     

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